5 TOOL FINISHING METHODS / 💥Negative rake scraper vs standard scraper💥😉
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2023
- In this video I'll show what is important about scrapers and how simple tool prezentation against wood can give you totally different results.....
Hope you'll enjoy this and get something out of it....
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My name is Jim.. I'm nearly 86 and have just gotten serious about turning in the last 5 years. I find your videos immensely informative and have helped my turning a great deal. These how to use with tools are particularly useful but everything you have done I have found very interesting. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Jim,I really appriciate that
Man, I love these tool specific videos! They're incredibly informative.
Thank you very much,more to come
Many thanks Tomislav, this is the best scraping video I have seen. Much appreciated.
This is fantastic teaching. Thank you so very much. Please do more videos like this. 🙃👍
Thank you for watching and feedback.... Will do more.... 🤗
Tomislav this was a great video, Richard explained this to me many years ago and you have given an excellent demonstration using different tools, well done congratulations.🎉
Thank you very much 🤗
Very informative vedio. Thank you.
Excellent demo. I’ve been told that neg rate works really well on end grain in the bottom of a box.
Thank you, well it does but also standard scraper also works great.... negative rake is maybe little more frendly and less learning curve but in some situations you can not get straight wall as two bevels sometimes push the scraper away for desired line.... But both options are good and it comes down to personal preference 😉☺️
Love your work. You have a very straightforward easy to follow style, easy to understand and very informative.
Thank You sir
Love seeing a master craftsman at work. Love your explanations on how different tools are best used and the different results obtained buy different methods. Very clear explanations, 💕your work. Take care.
Thank you very much for kind words 🤗
Really enjoyed the video Tomislav! You do good work! I like the way you explain your technique.
Thank you very much for watching and kind words 😀
Thank you for this. It was a huge contribution for me and my work.
Glad to hear that and to be able to help out ☺️
Thanks for taking your shop time to make this video. Your explanations are concise and very informative! Much appreciated!!
Thank you very much, it means a lot 🤗
Outstanding demonstration, Thank you, Dave UK
Glad you liked it Dave, greetings from coldish Zagreb, Croatia 🤗
Yes I like this kind of video. Technique demos help me most. Like to see this scraping on concave shape.
Same process🤗 thank you for watching
Very well done video Tomislav. I'm gonna need to add a scraper to my quiver (new tool for the toolbox). Thank You!
Thank you, its really awsome tool and versitile
I learn so much from your videos. Thank you! I would love to see a video of yours showing these same kinds of smoothing on the INSIDE of the bowl. If you’ve already made one, I’ll try to find it.
Thank you, glad to help out ☺️
I'll do videos on that topic as well soon
Hi Tom, GREAT video with so much information. So glad you made this and shared it. Al the best, Mike
Thank you Mike....glad you liked it ☺️
Thanks for your informational commentary on this subject. Helps no matter how much time you have spent turning there is always some thing to learn. Thanks!!
Thank you very much for watching and comment 😀 glad you could get something out of it ☺️
Thank you Tom for wht is perhaps te best video I saw about choice an use of scrapers.😉👍
Glad to hear that sir😉
great demo and explanation .... thanks for taking the time
No problem, thank you for support ☺️
Thank you for the demo you explained the difference very well
Great lesson Tomislav.
Thank you for watching and support what I do 🤗
Excellent video, i love you channel, thank you👍
Thank you
Thank you, all explained with great clarity
Thank you very much 🤗
Thanks for the video! Nicely done and well illustrated!
I'm looking forward to the scraper videos, mostly on how to use them on the inside of a bowl. I feel like it's even more important to have a smooth finish on the inside as it's way easier to sand (and cut) the outside of a bowl.
Thank you very much and glad you liked it ☺️
Nicely done, very instructive, cheers!!!
Thank you
Thank you for an excellent presentation of options. And for stressing what I have the most difficulty with. The light touch. Got to work on that.
Thank you Randy, glad you liked it and support what I do ☺️
Very informative liked it
Thank you
Am first time owner and lathe user. I so greatly appreciate technique videos like this one. Definitely a skill tool. Thank you.
Glad to hear that🤗 thank You for watching
Just superb! Thanks for sharing knowledge that must have taken years to gain. We get to see it condensed in 40 minutes. Such a huge bargain for the small amount of time the viewer must invest. 👍👍👍
Thank you for watching and support what I do ☺️
This was an excellent tutorial. Your teaching style works well for a beginner like myself. Keep it coming!
Thank you very much, will do....
Thank you for support 👍
Just found your channel and I love the instructional videos especially the ones on scrapers. Can’t wait to try the techniques on my own lathe
Glad to hear that sir and thank you for watching
Excellent demonstration and tutorial. The best I have seen for final tool finishing! Well planned, executed and extremely clear. I always look forward to your next video. Thanks so much!
Glad I could help out 🤗 thank you for watching
Excellent explanation. Thank you.
Great and understandable explanation. Appreciated.
Thank you very much
Newest subscriber! Thanks for this video. One of the most misunderstood subjects in turning explained extremely well. The fact that you also corroborate with Richard Raffan, Sam Angelo, and Mike Peace puts you in a rare group in my book. I know now why you are part of that group! Excellent content and delivery.
Thank you very much sir, it means a lot 🤗
Loved it. Thanks for taking the time and explain how each tool works. I would greatly appreciate a chance to see how you use the scrapper on the inside of a bowl.
Awsome,thank you for watching and sure will do on inside as well 😀
Outstanding video, I swap and change when I’m finishing but good to see the comparison for different methods.
Thank you Mark very much 🤗
This the best Demonstration/Lesson covering scraping on the net! 👍
Thank you very much for kind words 👍☺️ it means a lot
Excellent presentation…demonstration of how shavings come off with different tools and orientation while lathe wasn’t spinning was very helpful for this beginner!
Thank you, glad you liked it ☺️ stay tuned for next video where I'll try to explain my plans for videos and you might find it helpfull...
Great information friend. The epitome of a light touch.
Thank you very much 🤗
Great video and love the technique videos. I would appreciate a focus on getting clean cuts at different angles in the bottom of a bowl or box. Options to a bottom of bowl gouge. You can certainly see you’re a Ruffin protégée and you do him proud.
I'll put it to the list , thank you very much for kind words 🤗
Thank you for this - really helpful!
Thank you for watching and support 🤗
Great videos and awesome accurate info!
Thank you,glad you liked it ☺️
Excellent tutorial
Thank you,glad you liked it
Currently I don't posess a negative rake scraper and I've heard Richard say he also doesn't have one.
For me that means I don't need one either. Still I have seen that I need many different scrapers of various shape.
Working on that, you can make them yourself. 😎
Sure can , but maybe ones from let say sorby or henry taylor are a bit better.... And ready to go basicsly
Very very great video. I will like to see, how you use flat scrapper in the inside of the bowl. I will have to make it one and try this tehnick
Thank you.... 😉
Excellent demonstration-I want to achieve a fine non sanded finish, and you have shown me exactly how to do this. Greetings from Tasmania Australia 👍😁🇦🇺🦘
Thank you ☺️glad you liked it and get something out of it ☺️
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning -Between Richard and the 4-way team, you have it all so well covered. As both Richard and yourself have a lifetime as one man production wood turners, if anywone has the best techniques, it has to be those wood turners doing it full time as a living, you have worked out speed of production of items of fine finished quality. I am grateful that you all take the time to share your knowledge and skills.
@@ShevillMathers thank you very much, for people like yourself we do it, that appriciate the time ... Richard is by far the most expirienced one, I'm only 32years and been in woodworking and woodturning for 17 years,mostly working for other woodworking companies, last 4 years full time woodturner for my self.... So there is a long way for life time production but I'll get there☺️☺️ let there be just health and the rest will follow.... Thank you once again for support 👍
Yes, please make a video on using scrapers inside a bowl. This one was excellent!
Thank you very much 🤗
Excellent and detailed explanation. And this is what I discovered too
Thank you,glad you liked it ☺️
A great and interesting video. Its always interesting to see how different people approach turning.
Thank you very much 🤗
I’m been turning for 5 months and this really helped me improve my shearing cuts.
Realized I was too much pressure.
Excellent, glad I could help 🤗
Merci pour cette vidéo bien réalisée, très intéressante enrichissante et instructive : vous demandiez de vous dire si on apprécie ce genre de vidéo :
ma réponse est mille fois oui !
Pour ma part, je serais très intéressé par des vidéos soit comparatives, soit où l'on fait un grand tour sur les différentes façons d'utiliser un ou des outils (ou les deux) et les résultats correspondants, les conseils et risques éventuels, l'incidence des tailles, l'utilisation qui en est faite par les "dits puristes".. et non puristes 😊 etc..
Il est toujours très intéressant de voir l'approche méthodique et comparative que vous proposez : cela fait "réviser les fondamentaux" et permet aussi parfois de mieux comprendre, voire de valider (ou de contrer) des habitudes que l'on a prises au fil du temps en se demandant -même si elles fonctionnent très bien pour soi- si on est dans une "bonne façon de procéder" ou pas.
Votre vidéo m'a permis de "faire le point" sur l'utilisation des racloirs en position inclinée ainsi que l'utilisation des planes (tellement diabolisées) en tant que racloir en l'inclinant ou pas. : je me demandais parfois pourquoi on voit si peu de tourneurs le pratiquer et encore moins en parler. Je me demandais aussi parfois à ce sujet si je n'étais pas un "déviant des bonnes pratiques" 😂
C'est d'ailleurs un peu pareil pour les différentes utilisations des grains d'orge ou les bédanes quoiqu'un peu plus abordés et utilisés sans doute parce qu'ils impressionnent moins et sont assez incontournables.
Bref encore un grand merci.
Patrick
Patrick ,thank you very much for watching and support what I do, I'm glad you liked it and there are many many ideas for videos that may answer your questions..... I'll be telling about new series in my next video so please watch it when I release it and give me your feedback..... Thank you very much once again for support 👍
Very educational. I'd live to see the same for the inside.
Pretty close, I've made several videos after this one on this topic and for the inside
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning I'll search for it. Thanks!
This has been a big help in terms of a thing I can remember seeing when I'm sharpening gouges and struggling with torn grain. I'd like to know what people think about getting a bur off the grinder running it in reverse. It was my intention to have a grinder in reverse with two sisal wheels for sharpening skew chisels and woodcarving gouges, but because I dropped my second grinder (the one turning the correct direction) and bent the shaft badly, I ended up with an aluminum oxide wheel on the reverse grinder, and have been using it to sharpen scrapers. The sparks do fly the wrong way of course. Perhaps there are other reasons not to do this? It does leave a bur.
Also, here's an idea: Grinders are crap. There will always be a ton of wobble, I've seen youtuber machinists go to ridiculous lengths and still not get them to run true. What about setting up a mini lathe like WEN LA3421 ($209 on amazon) to run grinding wheels?
Thank you for watching and support what I do 🤗, my idea behind this is that burr is raised due to grindind metal of, a by product... So direction is not that important..... Even if you hone scraper you will still raised a burr .... I have seen woodturning store that have some of the sharpening systems to use directly on the lathe,so if you like that approch go for it ... I didn't try it so can't tell you much about it..... Now regards grinders, mine is due to replace but even as a rubish one when it does spull up it does run true enough to be able to sharpen and I use oxside white whell which you need to dress as well..... Hope that helpes, it my view on it at least 😅
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Well I'm not hearing "running grinder in reverse is something we were told never to do because safety" so that's encouraging :)
my dear friend, I understand everything you say and want to demonstrate, but let me add one more detail,... put the tool support at an angle of 90 degrees in relation to the tool, and if there is no vibration the results will be even better and you don't even need to use abrasives,... but then we use them anyway... keep up the good work
Thank you Paulo, I usually put tool rest to most comftoble position, but good suggestion.... Thank you for watching 🤗
thank you, really get a lot of info from your teachings
Awsome to hear that, glad to be able to help out 🤗
Thanks!
Thank you very much for support, really appriciate your gift....🤗
Thank you very much for the Video! Even though I was going in with quit some knowledge already, it was an inspiration to try out some different cutting methods on my own and have fun with it. I wanted to mention that you could also use a skew on side grain peaces to cut or even slice the end grain with a rubbing (or touching) bevel. Not an easy nor handy thing, but you could try that cutting method :) it would work best on shapes like your first demonstration peace and can leave the best finishes of all!
Thank you very much 🤗 thanks for suggestion,I have tried that tehnique but I personally find it more difficult to do, but these methods specially standard scraper can give me easier and faster answer, us woodturners are a bit lazy so easiest method is the first one....😉
Great!
Thank you 😉
Thanks for a very useful and informative video.
Thank you for watching 🤗
Excellent video. And yes, please do the same for the inside of a bowl
Thank you for feedback and I'll make sure a video for inside as well 😀
Very nice can you tell us the height of your tool rest on all the tools thanks Robert
Thanks for watching, I'll try next time to say where the tool is in relation to the height 👍 thank you for suggestion
Great informative video! Do you ever see a need for sanding sealer? Thanks.
Thank you Mark, I personally dont use or find a need for sanding sealer.... Shellac is one that I might use if I play with alkohol based dyes and to prevent bleeding colors.... That is only time I might use one.... Hope that helpes😉
:)
Thank you for watching
You presented some good information but this video ran way too long. I must admit I bailed out at about the 20 minute mark. In the beginning your demo of the gouges was essentially the same. The demonstration of shear scraping is essentially shear cutting or shear slicing. Also I think that demonstrating using a cone affects the result as the wood presented to the tool changes as the diameter of the work piece changes. Even though I disagree with some of your methods, thank you for sharing.🙂🙂
Thank you for watching.... Each turner has its ways and that is the beauty, this is from 3 differents master turners from which I learned..... And as I'm not good with names of different type cuts, every begginer will be able to see just from the shavings he produce what the surface feels and looks.... We can agree that there is multiple ways to drive a car, important thing is that we all get to destination....😉
Could you explain what you would do in order to get a smooth finish?
I agree with you saying that the wood on a cone changes. The surface speed that changes and the wood as such can vary aswell. But I think Tomislav did a good job with demonstrating the cuts. Cherry is particulary good in this instance, because it can react really precisely to the cuting edge and therefore show the physics behind turning.
I do actaully prefer longer and slower videos. If its too slow, you can always skip through it. Just change the skip time to 5sec (10sec should be default) for each time you press the arrow buttons or double tap on mobile.
Thank you for the demonstration. You are a very good teacher and your examples were spot on. Some of the ideas like sheer scraping with a gouge always confused me... now I get it. Also, your English is very good.
Thank you very much 😀
Glad I could help.....☺️
Thanks!
Sir, thank YOU very much for this.... I'm very gratefull ☺️
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning You clearly put a lot of time and thought into this video. I learned several new things. Thank you!