Mac vs PC for Data Science (SPOILER: Don't get a Mac...)

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    00:00 Skit (funny!)
    01:25 Intro
    2:16 Why Windows for Data Science?
    04:47 Recommended Windows Machines
    06:29 Why Mac for Data Science?
    08:34 Recommended Mac
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  • @LukeBarousse
    @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Data Nerds! 💻👨🏼‍💻🖥 I'm curious if you have data science jobs that DO or DON'T RELY on a particular OPERATING SYTEM❓

    • @Jkyyz
      @Jkyyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm curious how many people who are not self employed actually have a choice!

    • @The_Penguin_City
      @The_Penguin_City 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Geomatics or geographic information sience.
      Lunux user since 1998.

    • @The_Penguin_City
      @The_Penguin_City 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grass Gis+ potgis+R+Geoda.

    • @analisamelojete1966
      @analisamelojete1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’d say that most jobs requires some knowledge of linux as usually virtual machines on cloud providers use them. In terms of development I guess OSs don’t matter and that comes to your personal preferences.
      The environments that I’ve been working mostly use windows and independently I rely on linux and macOs.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@analisamelojete1966 Thanks for sharing this Ana Lisa!

  • @aw_shucks17
    @aw_shucks17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    yo i just want to say that I have watched you and a few others and just been building my skillset with the google certs and some projects I have done and I finally got my first two internships in data analytics! I really appreciate you making the informative content you do as it really does inspire me to keep it pushin even when shit seems super hard. TY Luke!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My dude, this is so inspiring to hear! Thanks so much for sharing this and congratulations on getting the two internships!! Heck yeah!!

  • @KenJee_ds
    @KenJee_ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Astounded that you would make this admission Luke 😮. I use the z book studio with widows, but I use wsl 2 so I can have linux on it too.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Trust me Ken, I've been losing sleep ever since going public with this admission of Windows dominance 😭😭
      Loved your newest vid on WSL2 👉🏼 th-cam.com/video/-zbLpoJVBMI/w-d-xo.html

  • @belvedere416
    @belvedere416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    After two years of using a 13" macbook pro for devops and data engineering, I still don't undersand why some people love it considering the small screen size and poor support for split screen. In fact I have decided to switch over to a windows machine as my main workstation for these reasons. The WSL2 feature in windows is a main reason for the change too.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Understand your complaints! Mac isn’t for everybody. But that WSL2 is such a great option, so I agree with that!

    • @shikeridoo
      @shikeridoo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No idea why anybody would work on a 13" ever. You have to get yourself at least 14", and if you don't use external screens OBVIOUSLY get the 16". You spend such a huge part of your life staring at those pixels, might as well make it comfortable to work with.
      I cried a little nerd tear when they removed the 17" macbook pro from their line up a decade ago.

    • @waynelast1685
      @waynelast1685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why are you using a 13" screen for daily work? That is your first problem. Bet you have to deal with constant problems on a PC also.

    • @Thekidisalright
      @Thekidisalright ปีที่แล้ว

      You bought the worse MacBook Pro ever thats why, its like window XE and ask why they are shit lol.

    • @pambudisurya
      @pambudisurya ปีที่แล้ว

      In term on excel heavy load. Do you think mac m1/m2 is better than high end windows laptop?

  • @roozbehvalavi8700
    @roozbehvalavi8700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video! I’m glad that you included “the prior” information to update your poll votes! Bayesian is the key!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!! Bayesian is king!! 🤴🏻

  • @ViviAndHerMac
    @ViviAndHerMac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I stumble upon problems with package management and find unix based OS better to access the terminal with commands that make sense. Also for beginners, I am not sure how important it is to start with PowerBI, Access and so on. It should be more important to understand concepts and even a jupyter project can get large with ease

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very great points about the unix based OS!! I like that I can jump between a linux and mac terminal with ease.
      Regarding Power BI and Access that is more niche to roles as data analysts, for others I agree that Jupyter would be a better concept to focus! Thanks for this!!

  • @michaellilly2550
    @michaellilly2550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey Luke, I just picked up an HP Pavillion 15eg running an i7 processor with 16g RAM, which was not one of your recommends, but was the most affordable option for me. But thanks for all your content
    . I've also been following your channel (and Alex the Analyst) since mid February as I'm looking to make a career switch from retail grocery clerking after 24 years.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Heck yeah!! Congrats on the new computer, that's a great choice and will be perfect for your needs. Awesome to hear of your transition into this field; keep up the hard work, Michael!

  • @cindystokes8347
    @cindystokes8347 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes! My XPS 13 has never let me down. I had doubts at first then realized I was running 32-but office 365. You’d be surprised how many problems that causes! I installed 64 bit and no more excel crashes.

  • @Rahul-fq9kf
    @Rahul-fq9kf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just what I was looking for... thank you. Love your videos.

  • @IrajMatthee
    @IrajMatthee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I've got both Mac and Windows and from this experience I noticed the Windows also scores another point for the lack of subscriptions whereas Apple takes more of a SAAS approach on top of the high asking price for the machine.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Very much agree with this Iraj, thanks for sharing this!!

    • @ssloc
      @ssloc ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean? How do you score a point by lacking something?

    • @DerpDerp27
      @DerpDerp27 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ssloc He means it's cheaper for you to use specific software on Windows because you not expected to pay a subscription

    • @Shadoufang
      @Shadoufang ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@ssloc Lacking additional expenses is a good thing, thus the point c",)

    • @alexbadin
      @alexbadin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Can you give an example? All apps I use on Mac are either free, or would cost money on both operation systems. I use mostly: vs code, Ms office, sometimes R, Tableau. Actually never faced a situation you described.

  • @Logic_Kings
    @Logic_Kings ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video Luke, very informative.

  • @clau_goddess
    @clau_goddess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is very helpful, thanks!

  • @asadkakuji248
    @asadkakuji248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Buying a MAC M1 AIR was really a great deal, for the fact that you still recommend it.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Heck yeah, such a good deal!

  • @leoo697
    @leoo697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I just started a new DS position and was lucky enough to be given the new m1 Pro. It's just an absolute beast! as I work primarily on the cloud, I have to recommend a Mac.
    Don't get me wrong, I still have my Dell XP15 as backup in case I encounter any incompatibility but so far, I never had to use it. The whole DS team is now shifting to Macs.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is awesome to hear, I'm in the same boat and am loving my new mac as well. This thing is a beast!

    • @casawabicat9475
      @casawabicat9475 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Would you point out the advantages that using Mac for data analysis?

  • @650rcr6
    @650rcr6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Loved the bit 😂. Great video! I totally agree with your recommendation. Even though I am a macOS user - if someone is just starting out and theyre going to personally purchase a box specifically for DS - windows will be the better bang for buck and will cover more use cases.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Boom! Agree completely 🙌🏼 Glad you enjoyed the sketch at the beginning 🤣

  • @mohammedzaid7947
    @mohammedzaid7947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you reply to this question please?
    I'm looking to buy an apple product for data science so do I go for iMac 2021 or 2019 ?
    Or do I buy the MacBook air

  • @ettavictor4804
    @ettavictor4804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I really love how you come to your conclusions; very rationally and based on practical cases. I currently use a Windows laptop with an i7, GTX 1660Ti GPU, and 16 GB of RAM. I've been learning Python for data science since the start of the year and my laptop has been more than enough. But I've been feeling pressure to buy a 14" Macbook pro with a 10-core M1 pro even though I know it's overkill, and I'll even run into some compatibility problems.

    • @casawabicat9475
      @casawabicat9475 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Please let me know how it is going if you have buy M1 for data analysis? I’m struggling to buy pc or mac too!

    • @victoremanuelgyn
      @victoremanuelgyn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@casawabicat9475 what did you choose. Was it a good choice?

    • @Zixtys
      @Zixtys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nvidia gpus not supported by Apple MacBooks

  • @weiwaysvids
    @weiwaysvids 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Luke! I am currently using PowerBI on parallel and I have problems connecting to the localhost mysql server in my MacOS. May I ask how did you get to solve that?

  • @Driven-dave
    @Driven-dave ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your opinion on the high demand for SQL Server skills and the recommended use of a Windows laptop to run it, given its limitations on macOS?

  • @Inderjeet19391
    @Inderjeet19391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally I got a video I was looking for. Thanx man.

  • @gabrielsamayoa4981
    @gabrielsamayoa4981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Luke, thanks for your videos they’re awesome, just wanted to ask you if you know a way you could recommend or do a video on how set up MSSQL Server working in M1 MacBooks

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me see what I can do on this. But overall my recommendation would be to install docker and use this to host MSSQL server. I may look into doing more tutorials in the future.

  • @im4485
    @im4485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a mini pc? Is it a good choice for data science?

  • @abeldiaz111
    @abeldiaz111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sr Sorry. Im looking to get into this world. And im between a Dell XPS 15 or a Mc Air M2. if a install parallels, it will solve any issues to certain things? Or you recomend me as a newbe a Dell?

  • @krishnabarfiwala5766
    @krishnabarfiwala5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have never used Mac, I am going for Masters in Data analytics engineering in the USA, can you suggest how to decide between windows and Mac! Idk how easy the shift from windows will be??

  • @waynelast1685
    @waynelast1685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a very interesting video. That's good news about using PowerBi with parallels on Mac. I would just add that the poll about users can be biased because most DA users are "computer nerds" so they might be more inclined to use PC software where they don't mind "fiddling" with software?

  • @Th3dutch
    @Th3dutch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As a Mac user myself I ran into the problem of not be able to use Microsoft SQL server and Power Bi. Also Excel in my opinion is very limited on Mac. While I am not very fond of the Microsoft ecosystem these programs unfortunately makes your chance of a job as a Data Analyst significantly higher. So I had to switch to Windows.
    I have run some virtual machines but I hated the fact that is ran slower then my Mac Os.
    I was already looking into new PC's when I discovered that you actually can run windows on an external SSD drive. It does take some setup time to get it done, but now my Mac runs windows without any delay and I am so happy! I don't know why almost no one knows about this but it is really great and I highly recommend this option for Mac users who want to run windows.

    • @maars75
      @maars75 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will study data anaysis this year and I dont know what to choose. Power BI is my problem too. Should I buy a PC so I have native Power Bi or you recommand to buy a macbook + windows on ssd ?

    • @zedd.
      @zedd. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maars75what did u buy then??

    • @Th3dutch
      @Th3dutch 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think it really matters, both is fine. Just make sure your system has 16 GB RAM. It doesn't really run well on 8 GB RAM systems.

    • @shahzebrahman1828
      @shahzebrahman1828 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is running windows on macbook not giving u high thermal and battery drainage?

  • @janHodle
    @janHodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You are absolutely right. In my job my work has a split between Data Engineering and Data Analytics. For the Data Analytics part I prefer Windows over Mac because we use Power BI as reporting tool. But for my role as Data Engineer I prefer Mac (but Windows does a good job there as well).

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is awesome to hear that someone can relate with my pains! Thanks for sharing this Jan!!

    • @jaydee700x
      @jaydee700x ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wanted to use both at the same time, so I got my company to get me a Parallel Desktop license so I could run Power BI on my Macbook Pro 😁

    • @Ireitsarof
      @Ireitsarof ปีที่แล้ว

      which mac model do you have?

    • @janHodle
      @janHodle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ireitsarof currently MacBook Pro M2 Pro Base (Company Laptop)

    • @reverend_wintondupree
      @reverend_wintondupree ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydee700x How's your experience been working in Parallels?

  • @davidc2072
    @davidc2072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You said 16 GB maybe for VM work. I think you had another video for PowerBI in Parallels that seemed to say 8 was ok. Has that changed since then? The 8GB M1 Mac Mini is a lot easier to find on sale.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've just had more experience with parallels since that other video. I still standby that 8gb is okay... but I think there are going to be performance issues. I highly recommend the 16gb if you're going to do VM work

  • @chele850
    @chele850 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am solidly in the mac ecoworld, but need to learn excel for professional purposes. Would excel on max be transferrable easily (ie be able to pass a skills test) to windows? Fwiw I do have windows on my work computer.. do you have any limitations w using parallels in data analysis?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No major limitations for me; I haven't tested out MS SQL Server recently.. but previously that was still a major issue for me to install even with parallels... Not sure if that's fixed though. Other than that its been great

  • @RomanZozulya
    @RomanZozulya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! That's very useful 🤓

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it helped Roman!! 🤓

  • @abusalem411
    @abusalem411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am struggling with this question too😓 Im planning to get something in September, and I am about to get a 14" MBP w/ M1 Pro. Yes, I know it cost a fortune, but Im planning for years. However I am afraid to compromise here and there that really don't want for £2000+

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can say I don’t regret having a Mac! I love it

  • @MGA19a
    @MGA19a 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video - only thing missing was a hint that when running Parallels and Win on it (my current setup is Mac Mini M2pro with 16GB and it runs smoothly even with Win 11 ;-)) is that hassle with shortcuts (especially in Excel) as you cannot map everything as Win so it feels (at least for me using mostly XLS) like workaround all the time (or running all with mouse) ...

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good add! Yeah i'm having similiar issues with my shortcuts I use to jump up and down an excel spreadsheet so I feel your pain

  • @bouseuxlatache4140
    @bouseuxlatache4140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You nailed it Luke comparing the number of users and why they use each platform. Why wouldn't Apple invest in developing an ecosystem for data analyst with home made applications?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats a great point Bouseux! I hope to raise more awareness about this as I feel the field of data analytics (and more notably data science) is growing so we need more native application support form Apple!

    • @bouseuxlatache4140
      @bouseuxlatache4140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LukeBarousse goodness it would require so much investment on Apple's side like developing automator, the cloud services for sharing and also producing a visualisation tool that makes a real difference on the market. the arm chip has a special module for machine learning, it would be an asset in that case.

  • @tea4night
    @tea4night 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exact info that i need it! thanks!! one quesiton: if i have another win desktop, would it be better to remote to do data work there as oppose to use Parallel

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      really depends on PC size (I.e. RAM) and latency. I've never tested it so unless the windows desktop has a lot of RAM compared to your mac I don't know if it'll be worth it

  • @harishsivegi136
    @harishsivegi136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Luke, I followed your procedure to install power bi in mac. But I'm having issues in custom column after couple of time usage the custom column not allowing me to write code. Can you let me know how can I fix it?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by custom column? I haven't experienced this issue

    • @harishsivegi136
      @harishsivegi136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Power query add a column we can see the custom column. Sometimes while writing code it is not allowing me

  • @lucifero1999
    @lucifero1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Luke, while you were suggesting windows laptops you mostly listed Intel based. What's your view between buying an Intel based laptop vs AMD based laptop.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TBH I don't really have a preference on Intel vs AMD for data analytics/science. I just have more experience using Intel processors so that's why I talked more about them. From what I've researched I think AMD is fine as well

  • @yaswanthkumart6874
    @yaswanthkumart6874 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi, 512gb or 1tb for data engineers ??

  • @covertsnake
    @covertsnake ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been using a 10 year old MacBook air and surprisingly it hasn't been an issue. 4GB ram and 256GB SSD

  • @RenM908
    @RenM908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not a data scientist, but I am a backend engineer who uses Mac. Can you not dual boot windows onto the Mac? If so, is it any different once you’ve done so? I don’t use any software that is OS specific so I’m curious.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great question. Not on the new M1 macs you can't (due to licensing issues for Windows for ARM). I detail it more in this video: th-cam.com/video/W6N8n99htvw/w-d-xo.html

    • @RenM908
      @RenM908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse Oh interesting! I still have the intel 2019 16" Macbook Pro as my work laptop, so I figured it was the same. That's really unfortunate with the M1s.

  • @damselindata
    @damselindata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HAHA love this I was smiling the whole time. The little details (IE the photos of Ken and Tina on the desk) are everything 😂

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww thank you!! 🤗 I'm just over here trying to keep up with your data nerd humor!

  • @Theultrazombiekiller
    @Theultrazombiekiller 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a marketing analyst and use a Lenovo ThinkPad with an additional monitor. I love ThinkPads.

  • @CatPawsLikeSocks
    @CatPawsLikeSocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve been a Mac user since 2006, and learning data analytics has made me want to get a Windows computer. Finally looking this up, and I’m glad to see it’s not just me. Thanks for the video!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad this video helped with that!! Macs have their pains when it comes to data analytics

  • @MB-kg7gp
    @MB-kg7gp หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heyfriend pls help...I just enrolled for data science course i need to buy laptop in 1 or 2 days.. I want to buy dell but can't afford XPS.. Can u suggest me in Inspiron. I want to buy below 1078$

  • @Wesjapa100
    @Wesjapa100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sup, Luke? I'm new to your channel: I started the Google Analytics certificate on Coursera 2 weeks ago and I watched a few of your videos before taking the final decision. I thought you were only a Data Analyst. R u now a full-time Data Scientist? Just curious. 😅

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 Not a data scientist at all. I try to stay up to date with all the different technologies that those in data science use... but I think my calling is for data analysis.

    • @Wesjapa100
      @Wesjapa100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse Got it! 👌🏼
      Nice content you make here, bro! Keep it up! ☝🏼

  • @macbp41
    @macbp41 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How's the experience on Power BI (browser and desktop versions?)

  • @loodwich
    @loodwich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That's the point, after 10 years of using windows I started to find it annoying... I tried a Mac computer that a friend just bought and half a year later I bought my first Mac. Just starting my Ph.D. degree. At first, I found it annoying and use the laboratory computer to make the graphics, and a few data analyses... but now, fifteen-year later, I don't like to use windows(*), I don't have any problems with Linux. So If there is any software for one application, I don't buy it and move to another that runs on macOS, also I could use Python or R to study the data analyses.
    (*) All my Apple computers have a lifespan of 6 to 7 years and are sold to another person. No problem with drivers, no surprise actualizations, no necessary to clean all the hard disc to make a new reinstall to work as the first day... for me, an Apple machine is there here always to help on muy work of the day.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing this perspective Juan. I can def, relate to your experience. ESPECIALLY that last point of having to call all the hard disks 🙋🏼‍♂️ def been there.
      This was awesome to hear how you have made a Mac work for your workflow!

  • @Rahul-fq9kf
    @Rahul-fq9kf ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this screenplay! What are you doing with so many pens?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂 never know when you’ll need one!

  • @arsyadabdat9859
    @arsyadabdat9859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've read online that running Parallels can heat up Mac laptops. I currently have a M1 Macbook Air 13" and was just wondering if this is still an issue?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't noticed this at all with running paralles on both my M1 macbook pro 13 inch or my M1 Max 14". Both computers rarely (if at all) ever have the fan cuts on when using parallels.

    • @JustAn0therSoul
      @JustAn0therSoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I highly doubt you can overheat an m1 - they have such a low power consumption. I saw a video of someone rendering Blender on a Macbook Pro 16" and even after 1 hour of rendering the fan was almost not noticeable, for the video he actually had to bring the cam as close as possible to the laptop so that the viewer could hear it.
      Overheating is only a problem with Intel Macbooks. The Macbook Air will lower the cpu frequency when it runs too "warm" as it has no active fan but compared with the Macbook pro 13" (m1 with Fan) it doesnt really lose alot of Performance. I think it was less than 10% under extrem conditions.

  • @rickdoesai4084
    @rickdoesai4084 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very funny and insightful as always! 💯

  • @46felicidad
    @46felicidad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. What do you recommend For stata ana spss? The MacBook air continue been your choice..?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't used Stata or SPSS personally, so I can't say. I did find that both have versions for Mac but not sure if they are fully supported. The safer bet would be go with Windows if you're unsure.

  • @Anna-kc6ll
    @Anna-kc6ll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video. Luke, you seem to be able to put yourself in a beginner's shoes and give just right advice. I'm in my mid 30s and I've just started to study Data Science and AI at Uni of Liverpool (online). It feels overwhelming and like it is 'too late', but it's the best and most interesting fit for a hopefully better future where I can finally work from home. I am looking for a suitable laptop. It will be Windows based because I have already so many things to learn, I don't have time to do "work-arounds" on MacOS. I just wonder if I really need GPU? Those laptops ale expensive, gaming laptops = ugly&bulky&heavy&overheating. I probably will use a cloud-based GPUs. I
    am not sure how does it look in practice. I am not there yet.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So awesome to hear that this was able to help! And yes completely agree with you on your decision to go with Windows, I think you are making a great choice. As far as if you need a GPU it really depends on the curriculum at Liverpool on if they make you train locally on your computer. So i'm not sure. Personally, I would stick with your plan to train and use cloud-based GPUs. For one you won't have to worry about a big laptop and for two it will train you for your job where you'll be using remote machines.

    • @benravenhill484
      @benravenhill484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      check out acer swift x. it has pretty decent rtx gpu. should fit you basic needs

    • @romanbogachev6147
      @romanbogachev6147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gaming laptops overheating compared to macbooks? Ok

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@romanbogachev6147 yeah what’s the issue ??
      We are talking about the new MacBooks of course not the Intel based one

    • @Anna-kc6ll
      @Anna-kc6ll 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@romanbogachev6147 Not quite ok. I made no comparisons.

  • @dakshbhatnagar
    @dakshbhatnagar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, Thanks for the video Luke. I am just starting out to learn data analytics and was thinking of maybe getting a MacBook but this video helped.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad that this was able to help with your decision! 🙌🏼

  • @prafullrawat6066
    @prafullrawat6066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi bro, I am at beginner level and want to learn Ms Excel, Power Bi, SQL & Python. Where to start? & which online platform should i use to learn them?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey my dude! Just made a video on this actually! 🙌🏼
      th-cam.com/video/aqRxZSrJLEc/w-d-xo.html

  • @AkporHari
    @AkporHari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Luke,
    1. What is the ideal choice between NVIDIA GeForce vs Quadro for data analysis and data science.
    2. Is a laptop with full keyboard (with numeric keypad) better? These are usually 15"+
    I am stuck between getting the Dell xps 13 or Dell Precision 7510

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1. I prefer NVIDIA due to the ability to use CUDA processing (but that's only a benefit ML)
      2. And that's personal preference for the numeric keyboard. I've been working on a short keyboard (without numberic keypad) the past number of years.

    • @AkporHari
      @AkporHari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse Thank you so much Luke. But do you mean NVIDIA GeForce or NVIDIA Quadro?

    • @zedd.
      @zedd. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which one did u buy??

    • @zedd.
      @zedd. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And is dell xps 13 with i7 (U series ) good for data analytics?

  • @AnojKnowledgeKorner
    @AnojKnowledgeKorner ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw this informative video, just when Apple mailed with M2 mini details.
    Ty.

  • @neville1122
    @neville1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went to your website, and that's where I figured out what kind of laptop I wanted. Got a great Black Friday deal on it. Screen is rather small, but I needed a new one. Haven't had a new laptop for myself since 2013. LOL.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heck yeah, so glad to hear that this was able to help!

  • @ilknurgezer535
    @ilknurgezer535 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am currently working in the institute as a researcher and I am planning to switch my career to data scientist. I am an astrophysicist and I am working with big data all the time, in all my career I was always using linux, I am using mostly python pandas for big data or sql sometimes but since I started to watch and read about data analyse for industry I am surprised that people are using windows for data science/analyse related work.

    • @casawabicat9475
      @casawabicat9475 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s means you are using Mac for your research?

  • @benjamin4206
    @benjamin4206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    …Like button smashed. Great video!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! Thanks for smashing it my dude!!

  • @markissleepy
    @markissleepy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I haven't watched the video yet but I assume the answer is "use whatever you are most comfortable with." It's been 20 years since there was any significant differences between the two - Macs are just as good for data and spreadsheets and Windows machines are just as good for video production and graphic arts, so it really just comes down to which environment you like better. The only time there is a real difference is if you need to use some specific software that is only made for one or the other and then you need to work around that.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very well summed up!! 🙌🏼

  • @puneet7768
    @puneet7768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how important is faster ssd for data science, as apple has throttled SSD in m2 MacBook air in 256 gb version

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think this is that big of a deal for data science

  • @SmokeytheBeer
    @SmokeytheBeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that intro was hilarious! I feel like the I'm the PC guy at my work

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣 I think we've all been the PC guy at one point! 😂

  • @planetnicky11
    @planetnicky11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude the skits always make me lmao. Thanks for doing your thing and please keep it up!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww thanks Nicky, glad you are enjoying the skits... more content like this (hopefully) to come!

  • @davidagoha1236
    @davidagoha1236 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Luke, What virtual machine are you using in this video please ?

  • @karimfarghaly8153
    @karimfarghaly8153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I use mac, I could have python on Mac OS integrated with power bi on a virtual machine? Or to install python inside the virtual machine?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How are you planning to integrate python with Power BI? (I have used python within Power BI) but as far as my main python work, I just install python natively in MacOS

    • @karimfarghaly8153
      @karimfarghaly8153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse I mean use python script inside the power bi. Should I install the python on virtual machine or can it be on Mac OS

  • @TheDevarshiShah
    @TheDevarshiShah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Software availability is better on Windows as compared to MacOS, but what about Windows and Linux?

  • @camillarastelli434
    @camillarastelli434 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do you think that Samsung Galaxy Book3 Laptop (15.6" FHD, Intel Core i5-1335U 13th gen, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 11 Home, Graphite) could be a good option for someone who is starting a master that also has classes in data analytics?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to sure on this exact computer, but based on the specs it's a good starting computer

  • @craigngwenya5557
    @craigngwenya5557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luke Barousse is a Dell 5260 AiO Desktop good for Data Science and Data Analytics?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah shouldn't be an issue, Runs Windows, Has 8GB of RAM and runs an i5 intel cpu... will get the job done!

  • @gauravdwivedilovegadgets
    @gauravdwivedilovegadgets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey luke, i'm planning to study big data science this year but im confused between the macbook air m2 or asus zenbook intel 12gen, both with 16GB of ram and same kind of storage. my biggest concern is the support for the softwares and processor compatibily for machine learning. what would you recommend ?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For data science I think the m2 should be fine.. but if you're going to go into data analytics, my recommendation still is with the asus, as I discussed the reasons in this video

    • @gauravdwivedilovegadgets
      @gauravdwivedilovegadgets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LukeBarousse thank you, btw i will be learning maths & stats, data mining, ML, data analytics and visualisation while using softwares like R, hadoop, python(anaconda, jupyter), mongo db, neo 4j, would m2 serves the purpose ?

    • @nk5602
      @nk5602 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gauravdwivedilovegadgets I am doing same. What did you buy?

    • @gauravdwivedilovegadgets
      @gauravdwivedilovegadgets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nk5602 i bought m1 macbook pro, and it works like a charm with really good battery life.

    • @nk5602
      @nk5602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gauravdwivedilovegadgets I meant, is it good for data science? Did you face any issues?

  • @jordanmartinetti8224
    @jordanmartinetti8224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know it's not very intuitive but Cuda is pronounced "Koo-duh".
    Also, I love your skits. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Data Engineer!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is good to know! I had no idea it was pronounced this way, i'll work on that.... For ever I was calling Django "Duh-jango"... vice just "Jango" 🤦🏼‍♂️
      More Data engineering content to come!!

  • @channakkranh9201
    @channakkranh9201 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you ❤

  • @B_Sagar
    @B_Sagar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which one should i prefer luke as I'm a beginner in the Data Analyst field and starting my Google Data Analytics Cert

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  ปีที่แล้ว

      Go with windows as a safe option

    • @B_Sagar
      @B_Sagar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But I've bought a MacBook M2 and how to go about it yaar luke

  • @paco3447
    @paco3447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Same problem with serious CAD/CAM/CAE solution, CFD dynamics and FEM simulations, AI libs compatibility (all is CUDA), photogrammetry etc. PCs (with nvidia GPUs) is the way to go. Apple is mostly "lifestyle" and video/photo/audio editing.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      interesting to hear on the CAD/CAM/CAE perspective! Thanks for sharing this!

  • @brettknoss486
    @brettknoss486 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not use Signal or Sessions?

  • @sh0kwerm
    @sh0kwerm ปีที่แล้ว

    We need update on this Luke 🤘

  • @automanie
    @automanie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me is also important user experience, which you showed in the scene in the beginning… 👍

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You caught what I was trying to show!! 💯 Heck yeah, thanks for noticing this!

  • @jonnyso1
    @jonnyso1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2 biggest factors for Windows dominance: Corporate culture and software suport, and the corporate culture ensures that dev companies aways prioritize windows, so its a loop. And from the tools you used as an example, I'd say the only reason you'd use them is corporate culture. SQL Server isn't a big deal, so is power bi, but you can't choose if the company you work for decides for you. I'm not a data analyst though, so maybe I'm wrong.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually Jonny, you are absolutely correct! So very true that these windows products are demanded for in corporate cultures and thus it's a never ending loop. Enjoyed reading this! 🙌🏼

  • @devonpeters9458
    @devonpeters9458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your goofy skits at the start 😂. Thanks for the timely topic!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 Thanks Devon. I figured people were gonna roast me for this video so I wanted to start out with just roasting myself 😂

    • @devonpeters9458
      @devonpeters9458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse 😂that’s, great - I like your strategy, haha

  • @officialegemen
    @officialegemen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Luke, why would I opt for a windows laptop since parallels is available?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really depends. I like to work in the apple ecosystem and infrequently use Windows, so I feel Mac is a better option for me... but for someone that doesn't value the apple ecosystem, or more importnatly works heavily in Windows, they should probably consider a Windows machine.

    • @officialegemen
      @officialegemen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse I have been granted a scholarship for translation technologies MA . I have Python and NLP classes. I feel the cloud computing and parallels will cover my back but I'm not sure... Btw, I am quite invested in the ecosystem; phone, computer, tablet, watch and the headphones...

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@officialegemen I think for something like that, then you should be fine with a Mac and can use Parallels if necessary.

  • @The_Penguin_City
    @The_Penguin_City 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kde connect and you have text messages and mail in your desktop.
    File sharing? Warpinator. And thats all.

  • @chacmool2581
    @chacmool2581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about for embedded systems data and ML scientists? People who need to interface with and program microcontrollers.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats a great question, but unfortunately I'm not as familiar with those technologies. Let me see if I can find out more on that!

  • @bryce1361
    @bryce1361 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fyi for those who didn't know, you can text from your windows machine as well as use apps, view photos etc etc through the "phone link" app which comes with your pc

  • @valchaneco
    @valchaneco ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you recommend the same specs today? Would these suffice - 8 core CPU, 10 core GPU, 16gb unified memory, 512gb storage? Or would 24gb unified memory be better? Hoping to hear from you. Thank you!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  ปีที่แล้ว

      I still feel 16 gb is good enough

  • @afterwork260
    @afterwork260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, just curious what monitor do you use?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      amzn.to/3NduoCA
      But I don't really recommend them... tehy start flickering after prolonged use

  • @onilbautista
    @onilbautista 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always loved this series. that kenjee photos tho. 😂

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣 I hope Ken doesn't get annoyed of it... 🤣 and thanks Daryl!

  • @YourMakingMeNervous
    @YourMakingMeNervous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just started a new job and they got me an M1 Macbook, it's been an absolute NIGHTMARE to set up the basic libraries

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What libraries and for what language!?! I just installed python from scratch on another mac and have had zero issues with library support using anaconda.

  • @alexanderknowles9449
    @alexanderknowles9449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another banger of a video!!!!!! yes!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/U4vh2EClJic/w-d-xo.html 😜

    • @alexanderknowles9449
      @alexanderknowles9449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse Woah! I got a personalized response!!!!!!!

  • @anirudhsripathi4614
    @anirudhsripathi4614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi!.You said the IdeaPad has a pretty high ram with 8GB but isn't that actually quite low. I think 16 GB should be the minimum for uses like data science these days.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was saying that it has a pretty high amount of ram for the price. Sorry for the confusion.
      For most normal tasks I think 8 GB's should be enough but would recommend 16gb if possible

  • @TheBlackMage3
    @TheBlackMage3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some problems are that you polled your audience which may be skewed toward mac. Additionally, you used the general world statistics for your control group. If you audience is predominantly from USA, then the control market share for macos is higher.

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Audience is predominantly from India

    • @TheBlackMage3
      @TheBlackMage3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LukeBarousse Oh very cool! This information definitely helps put the poll into context. Thanks!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBlackMage3 No probs! Thanks for tuning in! 🙌🏼

  • @KittyOzzyZiggy3895
    @KittyOzzyZiggy3895 ปีที่แล้ว

    What About Microsoft surface 5 or 7

  • @ricardovv7856
    @ricardovv7856 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been working for 7 years with a macbook air core i5. I recently bought the macbook pro 14 inch with the M1 pro. I really hope not getting desapointed

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you are gonna be suprised with how much faster it is! So I don't think you will be!

  • @mario7501
    @mario7501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Maybe as a data analyst windows is better, but for data science and engineering, linux and Mac are way better due to ease of installing things with apt and home brew. And the fact that working on the terminal helps you working in the cloud as well!

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this perspective Mario! Very much agree with this, that's why I love my Mac!

  • @zakiro4277
    @zakiro4277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thx

  • @Amor_fati.Memento_Mori
    @Amor_fati.Memento_Mori 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this the same for accounting too? Any accountants here?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curious as well for my financial nerds?

    • @777ter
      @777ter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m in finance and my company laptops are dell xps13 and hp elitebook 450. I’ve never seen Apple laptops in the corporate world issued by the employer. IBM however replaced 200,000 windows laptops with Apple laptops and saved 10% on IT support costs.

  • @mikayel18ify
    @mikayel18ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you showcase the power bi and power query performance on m1?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m actually trying to come up with tests to do. Do you have any recommended tests???

    • @mikayel18ify
      @mikayel18ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse i think a basic power query test could be connecting few datasets, maybe CSV files, having few modifications (custom colomns etc), maybe a pivot table based on the result to make it a bit more power hungry. Don't know where you can get the data though... Maybe download some covid related stuff or anything from online sources :)
      Same can work for power bi!
      Thanks again for the videos

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikayel18ify Thanks for this, I think I like the idea about the power query tests to test import speeds. Stay tuned for the tests!

    • @mikayel18ify
      @mikayel18ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse the sime power query file could be copied to a windows laptop to compare the performance as well ;)
      Thanks man!

  • @brbr4281
    @brbr4281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you recommend a Microsoft Go to get started?

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, just looked it up actually. If you can, go for the 8GB version; The CPU and computer itself looks like it would be up for the job.

    • @brbr4281
      @brbr4281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukeBarousse thank you!

  • @letechnicaljames
    @letechnicaljames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oooo interesting topic.

  • @Atlas92936
    @Atlas92936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that 2:49 "data nerd" has become a unit of measure for this channel 🤣

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 I mean that's how I count things IRL 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @lotfibouhedjeur
    @lotfibouhedjeur ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my crispy white Lenovo IdeaPad even more now. 😁

  • @shittyboxBuilds
    @shittyboxBuilds หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m glad I made the right choice was tempted to ether get a m1/m3 MacBook Air or asus g14 7940hs/rtx 4060. I ended up getting the g14 great laptop (999.99) upgraded ssd to 2tb and ram is 32gb. and if I need a Mac I have an old 2012 mb also my wife has a m3 if needing a arm Mac.

  • @riomorder
    @riomorder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is sad but I work with power bi I had to give my MacBook Pro 16 m1 back because of the performance with parallels. I have now a windows laptop and it runs ok.

    • @ahmadsairwan3959
      @ahmadsairwan3959 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi , I'm going to buy MacBook pro 16 m1 , 16 gb ram
      10 core cpu
      16 core gpu
      1 Tera sad
      for machine learning and programming
      what's your opinion with this Mac? and thanks 😊