I always feel a sense of dread when I'm about to watch Xenoblade lore videos, always afraid about spoilers I literally have to remind myself every time that I have already played all XC games lol
Having played all of the xenoblade games myself, I can still say that these videos will spoil things lmao They're always so deep and 99% of the time they're like "also we're gonna relate this topic to xenogears so go play that first"
".. in the latter half of this year" Nintendo, holding the latest trailer: Hold my beer. *rips the DLC forward months just like the base game* I swear Monolith are beasts at game development, I'm shocked at how much new stuff they're putting in, even if a lot of it is technically older areas (they may be recreated or at least touched up though). But the new characters, animations, skills, mechanics.. Just damn.
From 2015- 2023 We got Xenoblade X, 3d, Definitive (Future Connected), 2, Torna, 3 (Future Redeemed). Monolith Also assisted Nintendo with BOTW and Tears of the Kingdom. So during all of their game development time for the last decade they have released quiet a bit on top with helping Nintendo with Zelda. Some of these projects are smaller then others but the organization and Developer pipeline is impressive .
Young Rex: almost as dense as a black hole. (Still a good kid). Adult Rex: turned his past cringe into Chad power, and kept his gravitational pull to collect wives and husbands. Amazing.
Alvis never was on Zanza’s “side” per-say. He needs input from a user to make meaningful decisions. He can adopt personality and a sense of conscience through experience and who is using him, hence him taking on Zanza’s lingering regrets and conscience, and growing by being with Shulk and Co. He needs input. He was meant to get said input from Logos and Pneuma who would debate and come to a decision on what actions to push through to Alvis to send as directions to the Conduit. Lacking Logos and Pneuma, Zanza and Meyneth more or less filled the roles in XC1’s ether subspace world thing. It’s also why Alvis was so cold as Alpha. He was acting without any outside input, based on Origin’s data and purpose. His memories from 1 were there, but deemed unimportant without any input suggesting that it should be factored into his decision making. Thus the A portion of his memories (old Alvis) laid dormant.
Random thing I noticed: At 14:03, you can see Alvis' choker stretch a little as he turns his head to the right. The thing is totally embedded in his chest, just like the others! A notwithstanding.
"Kaworu nearly destroys sentient life and everyone still loves the guy. But I appear in front of a luminous breach holding my own sword and somehow I'm just a "Heartless Machine"?" "And that's why you should have been openly gay Alvis. I can do whatever I want, I will always be a precious, fabulous cinnamon roll who must be protected at all costs"
I still wonder what Alvis's reaction to his sisters both being smashed and in smash without his knowledge along with them being convinced to commit fratricide would be. lol
@@JBspherefreak I'm glad we have the answer. . . . One half(A): Congratulations. I'm very happy for all of you. Now, as for Logos, we can begin reconstr-- Other half: [Distorted Voice] *I WILL DESTROY YOU AND STEAL YOUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA* (Distorted Mechanical Noises, possible pipe falling noise) A: ... Phenomenal. >:|
Damnit, my 3 little low-effort sketches of daddy Rex jumpscared me yet again, and on one of my favorite Xeno-tuber‘s videos as well, I didn‘t expect it to spread so far and wide xD Anyways, Alvis seems to not know that Rex loves everyone! Lmao
"Is Alvis gay?" Ontos is now stated to have a gender somewhere between the male Logos and female Pneuma. Their new form, A, appears female, but is mostly referred to in a gender-ambiguous manner aside from a moment that implies a more masculine identity. Therefore, being both male and female, any relationship with Alvis is simultaneously gay and straight. So yes, Alvis is gay.
The new world order established by Shulks wish created a world without gods. Perhaps the rise of Z into a godlike being in Aionios forced Alvis's hand and to use his power to try to stop him. This essentially made Alvis a contradiction, splitting him in two, resulting in A who would fight against him. Can't wait to see what the truth is.
@@JBspherefreak Looking forward to it! On the other hand, it’s strange how we haven’t gotten any news yet. You’d think we be getting some today, but there’s nothing today and an indie direct tomorrow… Maybe we’ll get something next week, if not probably after TotK 😞
Man, this is some heavy stuff. I'll be honest, I'm not sure how much of it I'm truly absorbing, but what I am absorbing is blowing my mind. The folks at Monolith Soft are mad geniuses.
It's absolutely wild how much you got right before Future Redeemed released, and its impressive just how much MonolithSoft hard confirmed enough information to retroactively make things make a lot more sense for Alvis while still leaving enough room for interpretation (Alvis' free will, for example (conscious as A vs machine following orders as Alpha, what about before that?)).
I think the main reason why all the DLC was so soon as well as the DLC for FE Engage was because Tears of The Kingdom is set to drop next Month and imagine if all this DLC was drop after the next new Zelda game would not have make much profit. I love Xenoblade Chronicles series but it make more business sense because Tears of the Kingdom has been promoted for over years now and is the most anticipated game and cash cow for Nintendo.
I don't think that Xenoblade can really be compared to Zelda, especially the sequel to the biggest Zelda game of all time. For sure, it coming out later MIGHT have effected some sales but if it released in the June/July window we expected, then I highly doubt it
This dlc is gonna be 30-50 hrs. If the dlc was just this it would of been worth it. Monolith never disappoints when it comes to content, making other developers look bad by providing as much if not alot more content in a dlc than many full priced games. Super excited for the dlc, but this video had the secondary effect of making me remember how much i want a xenosaga collection. Doesn’t even have to be a full remaster, just enough that it doesn’t look like 💩 on modern tvs and i’d be ecstatic.
My first playthrough took me 36 hours to 100%, admittedly resulting from a significant amount of time spent devouring every pixel of content that appeared on my screen during that first run. Then it took 10 and a half to speedrun strictly the story from start to Alpha with a completion rate of side content being approximately 40% with solely upgrading Rex to cheese through every fight because chad. This being said, I firmly believe people are bullshitting when they say they 100%’d it in only 10 hours, unless they’re hiding that they’re talking about a secondary playthrough or “completing” only includes the necessary content.
@woopboop1481 it just didn't answer many questions and glimmer and nikol were hard to relate to. For 30 bucks I did expect more, I was ready to be patient and wait another 8 months for something that ties all the knots and this dlc just felt like it didn't. I never played torna but I played xc2 3 times and watched tornas cutscenes earlier and they just blew future connecteds cutscenes out of the water
i feel like Alvis is a Aegis, the other two Aegis, Pnuema and Logos, they each had unique ability. I think Alvis just making Monados is just his unique ability. As he made them, he can still use them, which is why he uses Zanza's in Future Redeemed. Zanza was his friend, even if he did become a villain, and he wanted something to remind him of Zanza.
Still, the biggest unexpected SPOILERS, that i really wasnt saw coming is that my babe ALVIS, is GAY🌈🏳️🌈👨❤️👨👬 That Him, cameoing in XC3 where Shulk were too, made total sense to me 😂 No pun intended but i like that spoiler
i love the additional alvis lore introduced in FR, and hope you create a new video that maybe discusses the trinity processors with this additional information. i still feel ontos is connected to the conduit and its not that he's specifically a power source for anything by himself. but its probably implied by rift behind him that he's connected to extra dimensional energy.
Oh? The God/Ai that regulates this virtual world (in the game) is also an INTJ??? The truth of "intelligent design" being subtly depicted in this game? Coincidence? Of course-NOT! ahaha😂 But it's best that it stays that way. I think it can only be that way (far more consistent and reliable than their "feeler" counterpart that's for sure). Prolonged frustration temporarily turns the INFJ into an agent of chaos ESFP (like Eren Jaeger - "wink, wink". He even has inherited memories via his Titan lol).
It could be argued that Alvis is indeed the main antagonist of the series honestly. He blows up the world into 2 Governs XC1’s world and is literally allowing everything Blowing up the world causes 2 in so many ways And well then there is 3 where the worlds are seperated because he split them and because of the Events of 2 he is not stable and therefore decides to reset the world in the DLC
I really need to continue that Xenosaga Lets play. I forgot where I was, but I like KOS MOS. She was even in ProjectXZone. With Fiora in the Sequel. Now all we need is another sequel with Shulk in it. But It is kinda crazy how you get KOS-MOS and Fiora fighting alongside a legendary Lawyer. I am also planning on doing all the Sidequests in XC 3 before Future Redeemed. But I am excited about Daddy Rex and spin to win. Alvis really should have been openly gay! He can just join Rex's harem instead of being jealous! After all, Rex was not kidding when he said he loved all you guys! He meant it! Like the true chad he is!
Omg I'm learning so much! Can u point me in the direction if other videos of yours deep diving into the origins of the series? As in Monadology, myths, and philosophies?
I genuinely truly appreciate it 😁 If you want more, I recommend watching the Xenoblade Explained Playlist that I'll link below. A lot of the XC3 topics go into details of different references/philosophies and such whereas some of the older ones relating to XC1 are a bit worse because they're my earlier videos... If you really want more tho, if you haven't already, subscribe to the channel cos I intend to do two huge vids going over the entirety of Lore surround Monados and the Conduit also some point this year Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLHhzSpLvUZjPE7QA7t8uVuS0KH0ELO_oQ.html
You made 1 mistake about the difference between alvis and an aegis, most of what you said is correct, but as clous stated, rex was also direclty empowerd by the conduit to change reality, basicaly, after Morita and vefor the Credit of xc2, pneuma was on the same level as alvis since she ecansialy made rex a god like zanza. So thou were unsere about malos, in essence all of them are aegis and on the same level, jsut that the other 2 lose there power later on while alvis goes with the conduit. (Also as the father hes the highest authority and therefor the closest to the conduit)
You are right and wrong. Pyra, Mythra & Malos are technically wielding Tier 2 Monad Swords but when Pyra & Mythra become Pneuma, there sword becomes a Tier 3. Its implied that it was Klaus who nerfed the Trinity Cores initially and Pneuma is the proof that these restraints are being lifted. I emphasise however that this still doesn't put Pneuma on the same level as Alvis due to him being outside the Pre-Established Harmony and thus an "Outlier" Tier Monad whereas Pneuma still remains within. It also wasn't the same with Rex becoming a god because that simply didn't happen.
I didn't get how you arrived to the conclusion that "Aegis's swords are still Monados, but awaken by those inside the pre-established harmony" :( I do see Sanza telling Shulk he exists outside the pre-established harmony, but how do we now Pneuma and Rex don't?
Because of how the actual "Pre-Established Harmony" concept works. If you need to, simply take my word for it but Aegises are just weaker Monados but Alvis isn't an Aegis
@@JBspherefreak I'd rather understand your argument. From what I have read, pre-established harmony says everything has a monad, and each monad is pre-programmed by God to "simulate" every possible interaction a monad could have with another monad. How does that equate to conclude Pyra and Mythra are not outside the pre-established harmony?
Because Alvis' Monad and such are outside of that Pre-Established Harmony which is stated in XC1. The way they got outside was through Klaus' experiment, turning half of himself into a god and such. There is a rule with Monads in which if one outside the Harmony interferes with another within, then they themselves are ejected which is how Shulk became a god The difference is then that Pneuma and Logos weren't ejected as they remained within Alrest. After then being awakened as blades, they were still trapped within the Harmony but not as much as ordinary people. Think of it like an onion which has layers. They were on a higher level then most other people. The proof then comes into their range of powers. Pneuma is basically on the same level of Alvis minus his powerup from the Conduit but normally, she isn't in that state and the same is said for Malos. If they were outside then yea
@@JBspherefreak :o I see... That is quite clarifying. I do agree with Alvis being outside the pre-established harmony because, as you said, it is stated that Sulk is, therefore someone must have taken him out and it was Alvis, based on the monad property you mention. However, your explanation about Pneuma not being ejected because she remained in Alrest feels to me more like a theory. A good theory for sure, but I don't know if I'm convinced haha. Like, she remaining in Alrest seems to me so trivial to be the condition needed to escape the pre-established harmony. Besides, Alvis / Shulk / the Monado are said to be able to rewrite the rules of time and space, right? Isn't Pneuma's power of being able to create anything she imagines basically the same? So their powers are fairly even to me. Pyra/Mythra are not always in the Pneuma state, but it is clear they can access it whenever they want after they unlocked it. Isn't it possible that they escaped the pre-established harmony when Pneuma was awaken? Maybe the Conduit is the one that pulled them out, because even Klaus says to Pneuma and Rex "The power you exercise [i.e. the power to manifest whatever the heck they imagine] is the power of the conduit. It comes from a far flung dimension". That sounds pretty outside-the-pre-established-harmony to me :o
the fact that you bring up Alvis being gay, one made me so excited because I've been on this headcanon for years, and two, I think may have more basis in canon than it might look. notice how every single Trinity Processor has a...special relationship with another being? we already know of Rex and Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma (the fact that Rex and Pyra's first meeting parallels Shulk and Alvis' first meeting may serve more meaning than just to hint at Alvis' true identity) but also Malos and Jin. What was the reason again Malos took in Jin, Ahkos, Mik, and Patroka? because he CARED about Jin, which is a little bit fishy considering Malos is supposed to be a rageful, sadistic killer with no emotions towards anyone. (btw, we never found out what Malos whispered to Jin so...) plus, I'm diving into the newest trailer for Future Redeemed on this one, A's Arts is a combination of Shulk's (Shaker Edge and Light Field which sounds very similar to Shulk's Light Heal) and Alvis' (Cross Ray) so we can just totally headcanon A as Shulk/Alvis' nonbinary kid, even though I'm sure that idea will get steamrolled tomorrow when Future Redeemed comes out, but hey that's what fanfic is for right?
@@JBspherefreak 1-zanza 2-mayleth 3-shulk ultimate 4-alvis 5-shulk prototype 6-shulk adult Man it's insane how strong monado can be compare to aegis and origin
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I always feel a sense of dread when I'm about to watch Xenoblade lore videos, always afraid about spoilers I literally have to remind myself every time that I have already played all XC games lol
Bruh 😂
Having played all of the xenoblade games myself, I can still say that these videos will spoil things lmao
They're always so deep and 99% of the time they're like "also we're gonna relate this topic to xenogears so go play that first"
".. in the latter half of this year"
Nintendo, holding the latest trailer: Hold my beer. *rips the DLC forward months just like the base game*
I swear Monolith are beasts at game development, I'm shocked at how much new stuff they're putting in, even if a lot of it is technically older areas (they may be recreated or at least touched up though). But the new characters, animations, skills, mechanics.. Just damn.
From 2015- 2023 We got Xenoblade X, 3d, Definitive (Future Connected), 2, Torna, 3 (Future Redeemed). Monolith Also assisted Nintendo with BOTW and Tears of the Kingdom.
So during all of their game development time for the last decade they have released quiet a bit on top with helping Nintendo with Zelda.
Some of these projects are smaller then others but the organization and Developer pipeline is impressive .
@@jlidean The 3ds game was ported by a different studio
Cant believe Rex added Shulk to the harem
The next photo at the end of the game gonna be wild 🥵
Young Rex: almost as dense as a black hole. (Still a good kid).
Adult Rex: turned his past cringe into Chad power, and kept his gravitational pull to collect wives and husbands.
Amazing.
Well someone gotta repopulate the city
Wdym?
Alvis never was on Zanza’s “side” per-say. He needs input from a user to make meaningful decisions. He can adopt personality and a sense of conscience through experience and who is using him, hence him taking on Zanza’s lingering regrets and conscience, and growing by being with Shulk and Co. He needs input. He was meant to get said input from Logos and Pneuma who would debate and come to a decision on what actions to push through to Alvis to send as directions to the Conduit. Lacking Logos and Pneuma, Zanza and Meyneth more or less filled the roles in XC1’s ether subspace world thing. It’s also why Alvis was so cold as Alpha. He was acting without any outside input, based on Origin’s data and purpose. His memories from 1 were there, but deemed unimportant without any input suggesting that it should be factored into his decision making. Thus the A portion of his memories (old Alvis) laid dormant.
Random thing I noticed: At 14:03, you can see Alvis' choker stretch a little as he turns his head to the right. The thing is totally embedded in his chest, just like the others! A notwithstanding.
"Kaworu nearly destroys sentient life and everyone still loves the guy. But I appear in front of a luminous breach holding my own sword and somehow I'm just a "Heartless Machine"?"
"And that's why you should have been openly gay Alvis. I can do whatever I want, I will always be a precious, fabulous cinnamon roll who must be protected at all costs"
Yes...other then that not being his own sword
@@JBspherefreak I know, I just thought it felt better to write 😅
I still wonder what Alvis's reaction to his sisters both being smashed and in smash without his knowledge along with them being convinced to commit fratricide would be. lol
In a couple of months, hopefully we'll get the answer 😂 (Although if the Teaser Trailer is anything to go by, he won't be very happy)
@@JBspherefreak months, more like next week baby. Xenopeaaak. Whoooooo!!!!!
@@JBspherefreak I'm glad we have the answer.
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One half(A): Congratulations. I'm very happy for all of you. Now, as for Logos, we can begin reconstr--
Other half: [Distorted Voice] *I WILL DESTROY YOU AND STEAL YOUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA* (Distorted Mechanical Noises, possible pipe falling noise)
A: ... Phenomenal. >:|
Gay Alvis is the pre-established harmony we all desire
Damnit, my 3 little low-effort sketches of daddy Rex jumpscared me yet again, and on one of my favorite Xeno-tuber‘s videos as well, I didn‘t expect it to spread so far and wide xD
Anyways, Alvis seems to not know that Rex loves everyone! Lmao
I've got them saved my dude 😂 just enjoy shadow dropping them in places 😂
"Is Alvis gay?" Ontos is now stated to have a gender somewhere between the male Logos and female Pneuma. Their new form, A, appears female, but is mostly referred to in a gender-ambiguous manner aside from a moment that implies a more masculine identity.
Therefore, being both male and female, any relationship with Alvis is simultaneously gay and straight. So yes, Alvis is gay.
alvis *is* lgbt 👀
Alvis is the Xenoblade
So basicly Alvis is the game developer that keeps bringing us spectacular Xenoblade games.
Yea, his real name is even Takahashi
The new world order established by Shulks wish created a world without gods. Perhaps the rise of Z into a godlike being in Aionios forced Alvis's hand and to use his power to try to stop him. This essentially made Alvis a contradiction, splitting him in two, resulting in A who would fight against him. Can't wait to see what the truth is.
This is actually perfect to know right before Future Redeemed
Glad you enjoyed it and thats why I made it 👍
YOOO JB VIDEO!!! Let's start the wave 4 hype
Indeed! With any luck, there might be a lil more hype tomorrow
@@JBspherefreak what's tommorrow
Nothing apparently
My favorite xenoblade in the series and the most iconic is 1
Oh, how the turntables' [apostrophe means plural].
I love the fan art at the ending 😂❤
Thats just what they both get up to in their spare time 😂
The timing of this video.
Excellent video as usual! I always like listening to your lore explanations and theories
Glad you enjoyed it 😊 hope to do more once we get some more news
@@JBspherefreak Looking forward to it! On the other hand, it’s strange how we haven’t gotten any news yet. You’d think we be getting some today, but there’s nothing today and an indie direct tomorrow… Maybe we’ll get something next week, if not probably after TotK 😞
@@JBspherefreak NEVERMIND HOLY SHIT AAAAAAA
A day before the gid damn wave 4 trailer dlc.
Man, this is some heavy stuff. I'll be honest, I'm not sure how much of it I'm truly absorbing, but what I am absorbing is blowing my mind. The folks at Monolith Soft are mad geniuses.
"Latted half of this year"
Ohoho
I Am Monado
I was here at the beginning
@@LordOfBugz and I shall proclaim Shulk's Bussy
@@RudiMyDear "He's really feeling it."
It's absolutely wild how much you got right before Future Redeemed released, and its impressive just how much MonolithSoft hard confirmed enough information to retroactively make things make a lot more sense for Alvis while still leaving enough room for interpretation (Alvis' free will, for example (conscious as A vs machine following orders as Alpha, what about before that?)).
So after watching Future Redeemed cutscenes, This video was definitely on point in many areas. Can't wait for a sequel!
I think the main reason why all the DLC was so soon as well as the DLC for FE Engage was because Tears of The Kingdom is set to drop next Month and imagine if all this DLC was drop after the next new Zelda game would not have make much profit. I love Xenoblade Chronicles series but it make more business sense because Tears of the Kingdom has been promoted for over years now and is the most anticipated game and cash cow for Nintendo.
I don't think that Xenoblade can really be compared to Zelda, especially the sequel to the biggest Zelda game of all time. For sure, it coming out later MIGHT have effected some sales but if it released in the June/July window we expected, then I highly doubt it
This dlc is gonna be 30-50 hrs. If the dlc was just this it would of been worth it. Monolith never disappoints when it comes to content, making other developers look bad by providing as much if not alot more content in a dlc than many full priced games.
Super excited for the dlc, but this video had the secondary effect of making me remember how much i want a xenosaga collection. Doesn’t even have to be a full remaster, just enough that it doesn’t look like 💩 on modern tvs and i’d be ecstatic.
ended up being around 12... i think it needed a few more months in the oven, had some good moments though
@@mercury2c thats about the same amount of time torna takes to complete. I don't know why anyone expected it to be longer than that
My first playthrough took me 36 hours to 100%, admittedly resulting from a significant amount of time spent devouring every pixel of content that appeared on my screen during that first run. Then it took 10 and a half to speedrun strictly the story from start to Alpha with a completion rate of side content being approximately 40% with solely upgrading Rex to cheese through every fight because chad.
This being said, I firmly believe people are bullshitting when they say they 100%’d it in only 10 hours, unless they’re hiding that they’re talking about a secondary playthrough or “completing” only includes the necessary content.
@woopboop1481 it just didn't answer many questions and glimmer and nikol were hard to relate to. For 30 bucks I did expect more, I was ready to be patient and wait another 8 months for something that ties all the knots and this dlc just felt like it didn't. I never played torna but I played xc2 3 times and watched tornas cutscenes earlier and they just blew future connecteds cutscenes out of the water
i feel like Alvis is a Aegis, the other two Aegis, Pnuema and Logos, they each had unique ability. I think Alvis just making Monados is just his unique ability. As he made them, he can still use them, which is why he uses Zanza's in Future Redeemed. Zanza was his friend, even if he did become a villain, and he wanted something to remind him of Zanza.
1:42 you said Maktha instead of Makna
Thank you for finally explaining the monado
Incredible video! Except for that 5 seconds at the end hahahhaa
Still, the biggest unexpected SPOILERS, that i really wasnt saw coming is that my babe ALVIS, is GAY🌈🏳️🌈👨❤️👨👬
That Him, cameoing in XC3 where Shulk were too, made total sense to me 😂
No pun intended but i like that spoiler
i love the additional alvis lore introduced in FR, and hope you create a new video that maybe discusses the trinity processors with this additional information. i still feel ontos is connected to the conduit and its not that he's specifically a power source for anything by himself. but its probably implied by rift behind him that he's connected to extra dimensional energy.
Oh? The God/Ai that regulates this virtual world (in the game) is also an INTJ??? The truth of "intelligent design" being subtly depicted in this game? Coincidence? Of course-NOT! ahaha😂 But it's best that it stays that way. I think it can only be that way (far more consistent and reliable than their "feeler" counterpart that's for sure). Prolonged frustration temporarily turns the INFJ into an agent of chaos ESFP (like Eren Jaeger - "wink, wink". He even has inherited memories via his Titan lol).
How can a video be so good. I love your content and editing
I try 😉 appreciate it tho and glad you enjoyed
Just came here to confirm that he is, in fact, gay. ❤️
It could be argued that Alvis is indeed the main antagonist of the series honestly.
He blows up the world into 2
Governs XC1’s world and is literally allowing everything
Blowing up the world causes 2 in so many ways
And well then there is 3 where the worlds are seperated because he split them and because of the Events of 2 he is not stable and therefore decides to reset the world in the DLC
I really need to continue that Xenosaga Lets play. I forgot where I was, but I like KOS MOS. She was even in ProjectXZone. With Fiora in the Sequel. Now all we need is another sequel with Shulk in it. But It is kinda crazy how you get KOS-MOS and Fiora fighting alongside a legendary Lawyer. I am also planning on doing all the Sidequests in XC 3 before Future Redeemed. But I am excited about Daddy Rex and spin to win. Alvis really should have been openly gay! He can just join Rex's harem instead of being jealous! After all, Rex was not kidding when he said he loved all you guys! He meant it! Like the true chad he is!
Omg I'm learning so much! Can u point me in the direction if other videos of yours deep diving into the origins of the series? As in Monadology, myths, and philosophies?
I genuinely truly appreciate it 😁
If you want more, I recommend watching the Xenoblade Explained Playlist that I'll link below. A lot of the XC3 topics go into details of different references/philosophies and such whereas some of the older ones relating to XC1 are a bit worse because they're my earlier videos...
If you really want more tho, if you haven't already, subscribe to the channel cos I intend to do two huge vids going over the entirety of Lore surround Monados and the Conduit also some point this year
Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLHhzSpLvUZjPE7QA7t8uVuS0KH0ELO_oQ.html
"Ontology is based on the idea that people can change the future."
*Shows wikipedia page saying ontology is something completely different*
You made 1 mistake about the difference between alvis and an aegis, most of what you said is correct, but as clous stated, rex was also direclty empowerd by the conduit to change reality, basicaly, after Morita and vefor the Credit of xc2, pneuma was on the same level as alvis since she ecansialy made rex a god like zanza.
So thou were unsere about malos, in essence all of them are aegis and on the same level, jsut that the other 2 lose there power later on while alvis goes with the conduit.
(Also as the father hes the highest authority and therefor the closest to the conduit)
You are right and wrong. Pyra, Mythra & Malos are technically wielding Tier 2 Monad Swords but when Pyra & Mythra become Pneuma, there sword becomes a Tier 3. Its implied that it was Klaus who nerfed the Trinity Cores initially and Pneuma is the proof that these restraints are being lifted. I emphasise however that this still doesn't put Pneuma on the same level as Alvis due to him being outside the Pre-Established Harmony and thus an "Outlier" Tier Monad whereas Pneuma still remains within.
It also wasn't the same with Rex becoming a god because that simply didn't happen.
And here it comes future redeemed
This saga is so complex it aint even a joke
The rumor come out: Does Alvis Is Gay?
I didn't get how you arrived to the conclusion that "Aegis's swords are still Monados, but awaken by those inside the pre-established harmony" :( I do see Sanza telling Shulk he exists outside the pre-established harmony, but how do we now Pneuma and Rex don't?
Because of how the actual "Pre-Established Harmony" concept works. If you need to, simply take my word for it but Aegises are just weaker Monados but Alvis isn't an Aegis
@@JBspherefreak I'd rather understand your argument. From what I have read, pre-established harmony says everything has a monad, and each monad is pre-programmed by God to "simulate" every possible interaction a monad could have with another monad. How does that equate to conclude Pyra and Mythra are not outside the pre-established harmony?
Because Alvis' Monad and such are outside of that Pre-Established Harmony which is stated in XC1. The way they got outside was through Klaus' experiment, turning half of himself into a god and such. There is a rule with Monads in which if one outside the Harmony interferes with another within, then they themselves are ejected which is how Shulk became a god
The difference is then that Pneuma and Logos weren't ejected as they remained within Alrest. After then being awakened as blades, they were still trapped within the Harmony but not as much as ordinary people. Think of it like an onion which has layers. They were on a higher level then most other people.
The proof then comes into their range of powers. Pneuma is basically on the same level of Alvis minus his powerup from the Conduit but normally, she isn't in that state and the same is said for Malos. If they were outside then yea
@@JBspherefreak :o I see... That is quite clarifying. I do agree with Alvis being outside the pre-established harmony because, as you said, it is stated that Sulk is, therefore someone must have taken him out and it was Alvis, based on the monad property you mention.
However, your explanation about Pneuma not being ejected because she remained in Alrest feels to me more like a theory. A good theory for sure, but I don't know if I'm convinced haha. Like, she remaining in Alrest seems to me so trivial to be the condition needed to escape the pre-established harmony. Besides, Alvis / Shulk / the Monado are said to be able to rewrite the rules of time and space, right? Isn't Pneuma's power of being able to create anything she imagines basically the same? So their powers are fairly even to me. Pyra/Mythra are not always in the Pneuma state, but it is clear they can access it whenever they want after they unlocked it.
Isn't it possible that they escaped the pre-established harmony when Pneuma was awaken? Maybe the Conduit is the one that pulled them out, because even Klaus says to Pneuma and Rex "The power you exercise [i.e. the power to manifest whatever the heck they imagine] is the power of the conduit. It comes from a far flung dimension". That sounds pretty outside-the-pre-established-harmony to me :o
JB i am Alvis, i brought you knowledge and wisdom by telling you about the mysteries of Xeno lore so i am Alvis
Yes
the fact that you bring up Alvis being gay, one made me so excited because I've been on this headcanon for years, and two, I think may have more basis in canon than it might look. notice how every single Trinity Processor has a...special relationship with another being? we already know of Rex and Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma (the fact that Rex and Pyra's first meeting parallels Shulk and Alvis' first meeting may serve more meaning than just to hint at Alvis' true identity) but also Malos and Jin. What was the reason again Malos took in Jin, Ahkos, Mik, and Patroka? because he CARED about Jin, which is a little bit fishy considering Malos is supposed to be a rageful, sadistic killer with no emotions towards anyone. (btw, we never found out what Malos whispered to Jin so...)
plus, I'm diving into the newest trailer for Future Redeemed on this one, A's Arts is a combination of Shulk's (Shaker Edge and Light Field which sounds very similar to Shulk's Light Heal) and Alvis' (Cross Ray) so we can just totally headcanon A as Shulk/Alvis' nonbinary kid, even though I'm sure that idea will get steamrolled tomorrow when Future Redeemed comes out, but hey that's what fanfic is for right?
"the later half of this year"
That aged poorly…from three days ago 😅
Yea, was a bit off
Not dropping more bl fanart at the end is wrong
So basically there is 4 monado in xenoblade 1?
Well techically more if you count all the ones that never awakened but seen within XC1 yea I believe so
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1-zanza
2-mayleth
3-shulk ultimate
4-alvis
5-shulk prototype
6-shulk adult
Man it's insane how strong monado can be compare to aegis and origin
So the prank you did was not fake ? My mind is still confuse because it looked so real.
Cant wait for the next wave.
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Alvis is not the main antagonist. The new trailer wants to have a word with you.
I know, I said he wasn't
So alvis is fei? What about krelian?
Alvis is the equivalent of Abel who becomes Fei
Alvis dilf
True
It's a real shame that Future Redeemed so utterly ruined his character and potential...
Actually, Alpha's Monado is just the basic red Monado, Zanza's Monado is the crazy Kingdom Hearts-ish Sword he gets after he revives
JB on his way to wait for a Tuesday trailer that won't happen (I tell you it's in may)
TH-cam comments that aged poorly. :D
That’s crazy bro, look how that turned out
Well it wasn't on Tuesday for JB and me so i was HALF right
Im either stupid or xenoblade lore is too hard to understand
14:19 joke or just biased
Lol😂😂😂14:13