Exactly. I was worried the end of the Klaus Hexalogy would mean that the series would have no correlation to the past games but now I wont have to worry
@@AzureMoebius22too late. Malos becomes a katana user and XB3 people will be like “OMG IT’S N’S SWORD OF THE END” and XB2 people will be like “THIS MF IS TRYING TO KEEP JIN’S MEMORY ALIVE 😭”
I find it funny that “Seven” was the spoiler name we used back in the day when the Xenoblade 1 twist was more obscured to those playing for the first time. Now it turns out Seven is Lucky, and I mean her surviving XC1 was very Lucky, huh.
Yea, to avoid spoiling Fiora to new players, the community came up with the name 7 as in seventh party member and it stuck, years later, Takahashi gets to make a funny reference
@@JBspherefreak I only played the game /saw info in Japanese, and I saw someone guessing it’s 7 characters from XC1 = Lucky Seven so I was convinced by that until I read the book! Anyways thanks for sharing!
I had a theory that Fiora still having Meyneth's memories meaning having a connection to The Monado/Ontos would be the reason she's one of the first people to help blueprint origin, but I'd never imagine that plot point would be used for a different reason...
@@JBspherefreak the thing Riku says with "there very important people inside" was a mistranslation in FR, it was meant to just say "person", so like given that it's named Lucky SEVEN we were meant to figure that out with that information. It's a shame it was mistranslated because people are acting like it was mostly a writing issue
I think it is more likely that Shulk and Rex only had strong enough “desire” to manifest themselves via their admin powers at the point where Alpha “Alvis/Ontos” made a personal, world-threatening appearance. Prior to that, I don’t doubt they tried to influence things subtly, but were still being pushed back by Z’s usurpation.
Man, his hint at Origin being further explored in the next games made me so happy, mostly because i'm happy that XC4 and the next games won't completely abandon the previous games storylines like a lot of people thought, alternatively this can also hint at a possible Xenoblade Chronicles Warrior game about the battle between Shulk and Rex against Alpha (basically a prequel to Future Redeemed) which would also be cool but considering Koei's history of making their Warriors games non canon and take too many liberties(AoC and Three Hopes for example) i'd be very skeptical unless they went for something like Persona 5 Strikers but being actually canon and written by Takahashi himself.
Don't get your hopes up too much. Whilst the concepts may return in future games, that doesn't mean they will necessarily be all that important. I picture most of the next game taking place elsewhere compared to the newly formed Aionios meaning we'll only hear and learn about it in passing although maybe not, the future is to uncertain to say anything for sure
9:33 if we take battle skills literally, tora's family implemented nanomachines in poppi QTpi, as well as Ino since they both have the skill "nanomachine repair"
14:53 I bet Z revived Panacea and Linka at the same time as he did Shulk and Rex. They started as 7-year-olds and became what we unfortunately don’t play as. Z knew Shulk and Rex needed emotional support to survive but wanted to keep their other loved ones in Origin/Origin shards just to fuck with them
I've been in a slump for a little while but I have started making a few other videos now and I have 3 Videos already in the works so hopefully we'll be back on that grind soon
Well, we still don't know what makes Noah and Mio so special and what happened to Mythra's kid. In my opinion, the children of Pyra and Mythra were fused by origin, because they are technically both Pneuma and origin saw no difference. That could explain why Glimmer looks like Pyra, but is talking like Mythra. About Noah and Mio: After finishing Future Redeemed, I believed that Mio is so special because of heir parents: Rex has a "key" or "heart" for origin and Nia is a flesh eater. Her core crystal could be the "light", that allowed her to communicate with Melia. That combination could be the reason, why Mio was always reborn. Unfortunately I have no idea, what is going on with Noah. First I thought, he might be related to the high entia and the telethia gene / cells of Zanza's body. But that could not be the case, because Noah has no short wings, like other halfbreeds...
10:19 My favorite Consuls/Moebius are D/Blackblaze Dirk and J/Joran, cause the former reminds me of Metal Face/Mumkhar, while the latter was once a nobody who became a somebody to rise above his uselessness. Not to mention they'd be perfect Rival Units for Project X Zone 3 and I wanna see both of them team up with Metal Face/Mumkhar, as well as Ouma Europe and other villains.
16:29 Why do fog beasts show up in Future Redeemed, but not Xenoblade 3 main story? The black fog is still present, so why not fog beasts. Also, why does the black fog show up in Aionios? Shouldn't Origin not manifest the black fog?
Hey ! We already saw the black fog in Alrest ! The other half of Klaus's body is made of black fog ! And there is blue or purple in it, (sorry , I'm colorblind 😅) the colors that represents Bionis world ! And in the black fog of Wenoblade DE there are red or orange/yellow colors ! Gosh, it's crazy to think that Takahashi already imagined all that... It seems that when the black fog appear in one world, it's with the color of the other world in it... Well, great video ! Can't whait to see Xenoblade 4 Thanks from France ! 🇨🇵
Je ne dis pas que vous avez tort, mais nous ne voyons que les bêtes Orange/Yellow Fog dans Future Redeemed, dont je m'attendrais à voir les deux ? C’est quand même un détail intéressant à retenir et je garderai cela à l’esprit lorsque j’examinerai des choses à l’avenir.
Hearing all that talk about the fog king made me think… if it was happening in Rex’s world at the same time and what was being projected instead of infernal guldo? Maybe a Telethia?
20:12 Defeat the point? What is he talking about? The reason why we're asking is that we want to _know_ the point to begin with. I understand if these questions will/may be answered later in the future, and I accept that, but just tell us that it's not a question you can answer at this time instead of "knowing right now will partially defeat the point of XB3's story". I think *you're* just saying that, JB. The article, at least from what is shown here, doesn't say that.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3's whole story, the whole thing you were working towards was an "Uncertain Future". Nobody knew what lay just beyond, maybe Moebius was right and everyone would die, bringing everything to an end or maybe people would flourish even more then before. Xenoblade 3 is a game about having hope that things will work out and STILL moving towards that Future. If you were too go back and say "Oh they lived happy ever after", then the whole point of Xenoblade 3's story leaving you on the cliffhanger with the uncertainty that things will work out in the future is erased. This is why Xenoblade 3's story was so beautiful and it's why we shouldn't know what the future entails until the next game
@@JBspherefreak Agree to disagree. It feels like we played two different games. Don't understand how the entire point of the story was to leave you on the cliffhanger. I agree with your first part, however. Uncertain future was a major theme in the game, but I disagree that it was the entire point. I just think that they wanted to leave themselves some wiggle room for the next game, and just stated that they couldn't' speak about it. Knowing what happened with Noah and the gang _doesn't_ change the overall message in my eyes. The future is still uncertain, for good or bad, but for right now, everything is ok. You don't even have to go that far, imo. [But that is just going into my headcanon at that point, so I'll stop]
Since we're a couple years away from the 10 year anniversary of XC2, do you think we'll get a definitive edition and an epilogue post game like they did with the original Xenoblade Chronicles game. It might clear up on the whereabouts of Malos, seeing a Telethia fog beast king, and might even reveal the identity of Mythra's child as well (although we might not know if this epilogue episode also begins at the same time as Future Connects). Also regarding the Liberators situation, i was under the assumption that many of them happen to materialize to Aoinis much later in time out of per coincidence. I saw a theory on reddit that they just arrived on a later time in Aoinis as it explain why neither Rex and Shulk never made contact with the City until its destruction.
I still don't see what the point of a XC2DE would be? I know it's kinda the trend at the moment for devs to just start re-making games that came out a few years ago but its not like XC2 is inaccessible or unplayable (Like XCX for example)
@@JBspherefreakI mean, Xenoblade 1 was still for sale when DE came out and it was actually more technically solid.(meanwhile 2 got framedrops everywhere and crashed on me at least twice, losing hours of progress)
thanks, it is mind boggling a lot of the confusion and plot holes are all explanined in the artbook instead of the game itself. Also about Linka and Panacea and basically thwe rest of the NPC Liberators, there is actually a dialogue with Linka that kinda explained their existence in FR. You get this conversation with Linka when you save all the city npc and registered Linka with the golden Affinity ring. Basically what she said is: "Us Liberators originally lived in separate worlds" "When Aionios was born, most people were assimilated by Origin, but there were also exceptions such as us" Matthew asked why they are not assimilated "That I do not know. The reason for our existence here is unclear" "It may we have a role to play in this world. something like that"
I know this is not an April fools joke but at first, I was a little hesitant just because of what day it was and how insane some of the confirmations were.
Only question I really had was how logos was able to return, but when you consider pneuma manages data of all blades that are relayed back to her, I don’t think it’s a stretch that Malos’s soul exist in her core. Also about origin: Origin metal is likely based off of the same material as the monado, considering Origin was based on the Ontos core architecture. Which is very specific wording which I think explains why origin metal is able to withstand annihilation. Also it’s not unenviable to think that origin would be constructed in about 20 years or so, considering the insane amount of technology they have at their disposal
I don't believe their tech is all that advanced tho all thouigh I don't feel like it is, maybe thats just a silly Headcannon thing I need to get over tho
@@JBspherefreak I think about it like this: if Russia was able to go to space with barely anything at their disposal before the Soviet Union was founded, then I don’t think it’s hard to believe that Origin was constructed in a couple decades with technology like the artifices, beanstalk, mechon tech, trinity processor tech, etc.
But they don't have access to all of that...Mechon fine sure but the people of Klaus' world built the Artifices, the beanstalk, the trinity processor and everything else and they had the tech to go to the Carina Nebula Galaxy. In the Xenoblade Timeline, it's been likely less than 30 years since they were using Mobile Artillery units
for logos being alive its still a stretch but I assume its either memories of Agnians and or somehow Ion lives somewhere in space sense even though we see the crystal shatter its still in Ion and Its not like a aigis cant comeback after the crystal is drained and or shattered seeing as pnuema did it numerus times though thats just a theory a game theory I will now escort myself to the exit edit: you then said some of what I said and fell over and died
Yea no, it works considering that he shouldn't be alive in the first place, I'm just thankful that it will probably be explained in a future game and then we can all just accept it then
Excuse my English, but I need someone's help. Does anyone know where you can buy this book in Japan? A friend traveled and I wanted to take advantage of asking him to buy it for me. Thanks for the help
if moebius are the collective conscious and Z hates the world. that means there are gonna be some form of criminals or terrorists in either keves or agnus which melia or nia have to take down
I mean your not wrong but I feel that was kinda obvious from the beginning. Z is just an Amalgamation of Negative thoughts and those don't have to come from bad people. I'm sure even the most innocent of people have thought have doing something bad before even if they'd never actually do it
Honnestly, this whole interview feel kinda like Takahashi didnt really wanted to do XC3 at first and is instead very much concerned about the next step in the serie
Hey JB. As a fellow content creator, I hope you like my exploration into JP translation on the lore I've released similar to you. Great video as always
His point about Moebius was so great and i've been saying this for a long time, about how i actually like them a lot and find their concept way more endearing than the previous main villains, of course, i still think that there is way too many of them and that Z deserved more screen-time but still, them being a representation of some sort of goverment that have selfish and vain reasons to cause suffering and despair unto others and with then being a reflex of the dark side from humanity's collective unconscious was always something way more interesting than "JRPG Evil God n° 72783839" that needed a retcon to his own story in the second game to became way better and more unique and Malos which while he is charismatic honestly i never found him that interesting, he was just funny most of the time and i cared way more about Jin. I also see Z being a villain that does nothing as a critic to how the leaders behind the system in real life wage wars while hiding behind propaganda, soldiers and etc. It's a common say that the ones that cause war, rarely give their own face on the battlefield and most of the time it's all about self interest at the expense of others lives and in that aspect, i find Z and Moebius genius specially afther the confirmation that this was truly their intention.
Moebius is a good villain. I do think that there should have been some changes made still but even then, the concept and idea is solid and just gets better the more you learn and think about it
Damn, Xenoblade 3 was such a poorly told narrative. Just imagine if a fraction of all that useless NPC dialogue were repurposed into explaining this stuff in game. Revealing this years after release is pointless. Also, it's irresponsible for Takahashi to avoid explaining the game he already made in anticipation of a game that is supposed to come out eventually.
I wouldn't exactly word it like that... granted I do think Xenoblade 3 has some room to be a bit more clear and concise but I wouldn't descibe it necessaily as poorly written. For instance, something I failed to talk about in the video (As I'd forgotten about it at the time as its rather nieche knowledge) is that the whole thing about Fiora and Lucky Seven IS actually hinted at in game but the Localization screwed it up. During FR and the scene where Riku talks about the sword, he actually uses the word "Person" in JP but in English and other languaged, it was translated into "People" as in Plural leading to the confusion I also don't think its a bad thing to clearly to explain every aspect of a game as then it leaves no room for the possibility of theorising and exploring the games identity. I do think more should have been covered in this game that is directly relevant to the main story like why and how there are two Noah and Mio's and more history behind Aionios and what happened as there still remains a lot of blanks but things like the Black Fog and other aspects that may still be answered in a future game is best left unanswered in my opinion for right now To clarify, not saying Xenoblade 3 was perfect and it for sure should have clarified some other points of the game but I don't think that makes it bad
@@JBspherefreak Theory crafting is fun for aspects that lack an emotional relevancy. The introduction of Shulk and Rex to Future Redeemed comes with a lot of emotional baggage. Given they both have wives and children, you'd think their actions in that DLC would reflect that. Imagine how emotionally distraught they must've been when their kids were first caught up in the perpetual Aionios war? That's barely addressed in game. Shulk mentioning that his wife became a sword would have helped explain why he wasn't worried about her. It would have let players realize they were being helped throughout their journey all this time. What good does that knowledge give us now, years after the game came out? The time to feel those emotions has long since passed. The base game ends with the same missed opportunity. Exactly what would happen to Noah and crew when the worlds separate again was poorly explained. They apparently knew they'd be pulled apart from each other, but it was a surprise for players. They'd been fighting to be together all this time, so you'd think there would be at least one scene where they came to the realization that to defeat Z, they'd have to say goodbye to each other. The best we get is a line or two from Nia's side story, which you can't play until AFTER beating the game. Even then, there was no shock or surprise, no moment for them to cope with the reveal. Meanwhile, you can spend hours reading all that useless NPC dialogue that does nothing to clarify the main narrative.
@@OtakuDaiKun Xc3's storytelling isn't exactly bad perse, but it's presentation isn't what it *should* be; it's storytelling is paced like a really well told Movie. The issues you bring up are more of a direct consequence of this though because Movie pacing works well for a movie because it's pacing compiles a larger story into a faster pacing, whereas a game inherently has more 'padding' between the story beats (i.e. the gameplay), a lot of storytellers learn to differentiate these practices, but Xc3's directors decided to pace the game like a movie, which certainly makes for a compelling narrative in a vacuum, but it's not exactly a good approach for a game. You brought up that things like them destroying the world weren't brought up in the story, but it is, and it's only brought up like... once, offhandedly, before dropping players into one of the most dramatic scenes in the game. Due to the way this is executed; this works in a lot of movies-- it does not work in a game. Basically, my point is that it's 'Good Storytelling' for the 'Wrong Media'. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
@@RudiMyDear I wouldn't call it a "really well told" movie. Its entire climax left me frustrated all because we never got to see the characters realize and contend with the fact that they'd have to be apart as the worlds separate. Rather than truly feeling the emotions of that scene, I was left saying "what the hell is this?" In future Redeemed, an interesting emotional moment for Na'el was undermined by a radio dropping Xenosaga easter eggs. That would be distracting even for a movie.
@@OtakuDaiKun The first point is a topic I feel on a spiritual level. God the end of Xc3 is such a fucking mess. Yeah, y'know what I agree with you completely on that one, fuck the end of Xc3. first 2 acts were quite good for a movie, act 3 can rot in a barrel.
I’ve been saying this since FR came out and I’m gonna keep saying it until we get an official an official answer: Pyra and Mythra are not inside Noah’s seath, it simply does not make sense based on what is shown and said in the game. If Pyra and Mythra are in Noah’s seath it means that Matthew or one his descendants gave the Gauntlets to Riku years after FR ending, when Riku was infiltrated in the Keves colonies and the house Vandham was away from the City, and then Riku used to Gauntlets to craft Noah’s seath, but the game never even implies that the Gauntlets were given to someone after FR, and it explicitly says that Riku uses Noah’s base sword to create a seath suited to hide Lucky Seven. I think that if Matthew really gave his Gauntlets to Riku or one of his descendants that then gave them to Riku, the game would have had at least a hint about it, but there are no such hints, and there’s also the fact that Noah’s seath doesn’t show to have powers even remotely similar to those we saw coming from Matthew’s Gauntlets (like giving people Ouroboros powers without the Ouroboros stone), in fact it doesn’t even show to have special powers in the first place, apart from being able to shapeshift into a gauntlet when Lucky Seven is drawn out which seems more like a convenient thing that Riku added than an actual power that comes from the seath. At this point, knowing that Takahashi said that Noah throws Lucky Seven in the sea at the end of the game as a way to return it to Origin, the most logical conclusion I can think of is that at some point Matthew did the same with the Gauntlets, returning Pyra and Mythra to Origin. To me, this whole “Pyra and Mythra are Noah’s seath” theory seems more like a way for the community to gaslight itself and it’s practically based on non-evidence used to support it, like the fact that Noah’s seath is red and Matthew’s Gauntlets are red (Noah’s base sword is red and Riku used it to create the seath), and now even the fact that a scrapped concept of the Sword of Origin looks similar to Pneuma’s sword; like, how can a concept that wasn’t even meant to be in the final game prove that Pyra and Mythra are in Noah’s seath? If one day Takahashi confirms that they are in Noah’s seath, it will feel weird but I’ll have no problems accepting it, but as of right now, in my opinion there’s no logical evidence that supports this theory.
The problem is it also refers to the dictatorship of the polatariat IE the communist parties who was entrusted by the polatariat to rule the state and ended up in dictatorship like starlins,chairman mao, enver houxa etc this refers to politicians in general not just capitalists ones. And if you see north Korea Kim who is like Z doesn't want you to leave and wants the status quo his grandfather left his family with to remain.
What makes me sad the most is that Xenoblade games keep flopping in terms of sales. People hate this game just because it's Nintendo exclusive, and they want it to be on ps so that the graphics can be modern like all ps games.
The games don't really flop (at least by Nintendo standards). We are just so used to seeing games make 5-10 million dollars or more. When a game makes 1 or 2 million, it can look like a flop even though it wasn't really one.
Yea, other then X which has it's own circumstances, each Xeno game has sold over 1 million copies which for JRPG standards is pretty darn good. I do think the graphics want updating with better hardware to boot but I wouldn't say that its a major issue that its locked to these consoles
@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg 1m is a flop bruh. The reason why most Nintendo IPs are dead is because they flopped in term of sales. Most gamers worldwide buy and play games on pc mobile phones and ps
@@Rizky-GumilarLmao, you are kinda mad over here. Getting over 1m was considered a success for Xenosaga Episode 1, a game on the PS2, one of the most successful console plattforms of all time. They are entirely right that metrics are just diffrent for the genre. Besides, Nintendo would not have greenlit so many sequel-releases if they considered the series a flop.
If all the mobius characters where suppose to be completely unsympathetic then why give characters like Joran, Shania and especially N sob stories and even more insulting make the party easily forgive N when he has done nothing but be smug/ whiny asshole to everyone because “he’s Noah” ?
The party didn't forgive N at all. Its a really similar situation with Egil where Shulk wasn't just going to forgive everything he did. Shulk was hoping Egil would be able to start over and fix what he has done. It's the same thing with N but I guess literacy is just fucked these days.
Because those are different characters, those are actual people. Takahashi is referring specifically to Moebius in this instance or in other words Z. Those that you just lifted off are basically his Avatars but they're still people so they do react like his old Villains by having their own motives and such. If you Look at the Moebius concept in a vaccum tho, this is where you get that unforgivable behaviour type of deal
"characters were transformed into objects"
Finally, lifesaver Ryen
Hearing Takahashi say things like "I can't answer that YET" is so exciting
Exactly. I was worried the end of the Klaus Hexalogy would mean that the series would have no correlation to the past games but now I wont have to worry
Xenoblade Chronicles 4 is going to be a wild ride!
That video hyped me up soooooo freaking much
That's my line!
Please don't put concepts for Xenoblade 4 in my head yet. I practically came in my pants when 3 was announced.
@@AzureMoebius22too late. Malos becomes a katana user and XB3 people will be like “OMG IT’S N’S SWORD OF THE END” and XB2 people will be like “THIS MF IS TRYING TO KEEP JIN’S MEMORY ALIVE 😭”
@@ayejaymanofficialhuh malos is dead
Shulk: Fiora, you're a Lucky Seven
Fiora: Shuuuuuuu-*turns into Lucky Seven*
I find it funny that “Seven” was the spoiler name we used back in the day when the Xenoblade 1 twist was more obscured to those playing for the first time. Now it turns out Seven is Lucky, and I mean her surviving XC1 was very Lucky, huh.
This is the best part of watching videos in English!!
I had no idea about her being referred to Seven🤯
Thanks for the info!
Yea, to avoid spoiling Fiora to new players, the community came up with the name 7 as in seventh party member and it stuck, years later, Takahashi gets to make a funny reference
@@JBspherefreak I only played the game /saw info in Japanese, and I saw someone guessing it’s 7 characters from XC1 = Lucky Seven so I was convinced by that until I read the book!
Anyways thanks for sharing!
I had a theory that Fiora still having Meyneth's memories meaning having a connection to The Monado/Ontos would be the reason she's one of the first people to help blueprint origin, but I'd never imagine that plot point would be used for a different reason...
It's wild that this is the route they went with and I still don't understand how they expected us to figure it out
@@JBspherefreak the thing Riku says with "there very important people inside" was a mistranslation in FR, it was meant to just say "person", so like given that it's named Lucky SEVEN we were meant to figure that out with that information. It's a shame it was mistranslated because people are acting like it was mostly a writing issue
I think it is more likely that Shulk and Rex only had strong enough “desire” to manifest themselves via their admin powers at the point where Alpha “Alvis/Ontos” made a personal, world-threatening appearance. Prior to that, I don’t doubt they tried to influence things subtly, but were still being pushed back by Z’s usurpation.
Man, his hint at Origin being further explored in the next games made me so happy, mostly because i'm happy that XC4 and the next games won't completely abandon the previous games storylines like a lot of people thought, alternatively this can also hint at a possible Xenoblade Chronicles Warrior game about the battle between Shulk and Rex against Alpha (basically a prequel to Future Redeemed) which would also be cool but considering Koei's history of making their Warriors games non canon and take too many liberties(AoC and Three Hopes for example) i'd be very skeptical unless they went for something like Persona 5 Strikers but being actually canon and written by Takahashi himself.
Don't get your hopes up too much. Whilst the concepts may return in future games, that doesn't mean they will necessarily be all that important. I picture most of the next game taking place elsewhere compared to the newly formed Aionios meaning we'll only hear and learn about it in passing although maybe not, the future is to uncertain to say anything for sure
What a time to be alive Xenoblade, GOT and Elden Ring lore are my favorite type of videos thank you
9:33 if we take battle skills literally, tora's family implemented nanomachines in poppi QTpi, as well as Ino since they both have the skill "nanomachine repair"
True, it's hard to know if we should take every part literally but maybe that could work
14:53 I bet Z revived Panacea and Linka at the same time as he did Shulk and Rex. They started as 7-year-olds and became what we unfortunately don’t play as. Z knew Shulk and Rex needed emotional support to survive but wanted to keep their other loved ones in Origin/Origin shards just to fuck with them
They give a Nopon a deep voice and all of a sudden we forget they're a bunch of liars. Damn Nopon
4:15 he doesn’t say Logos is in the sword, but Malos specifically. Which is even weirder
Thanks Lugalbanda the wanderer king from the hit game Xenoblade Chronicles X for translating this interview
I like that "SEVEN" is canon now
Seven is indeed a number and is now canon
@@JBspherefreak if you know you know i guess 🙈🙉🙊
I really hope whatever he does next has that ambition, darkness and depth of xenogears. Not that he ever strayed too far from those things though
19:53 I bet they’re porting Saga and Gears to the Switch
The end of an era, now we'll wait... until next time
Don't take too long,
Cause everything you've said
You'll find it there...............
Really glad to see you’re uploading again, I missed your videos
I've been in a slump for a little while but I have started making a few other videos now and I have 3 Videos already in the works so hopefully we'll be back on that grind soon
Well, we still don't know what makes Noah and Mio so special and what happened to Mythra's kid. In my opinion, the children of Pyra and Mythra were fused by origin, because they are technically both Pneuma and origin saw no difference. That could explain why Glimmer looks like Pyra, but is talking like Mythra.
About Noah and Mio:
After finishing Future Redeemed, I believed that Mio is so special because of heir parents: Rex has a "key" or "heart" for origin and Nia is a flesh eater. Her core crystal could be the "light", that allowed her to communicate with Melia. That combination could be the reason, why Mio was always reborn.
Unfortunately I have no idea, what is going on with Noah. First I thought, he might be related to the high entia and the telethia gene / cells of Zanza's body. But that could not be the case, because Noah has no short wings, like other halfbreeds...
Omg thanks Lumgie.
thank you lugal
10:19 My favorite Consuls/Moebius are D/Blackblaze Dirk and J/Joran, cause the former reminds me of Metal Face/Mumkhar, while the latter was once a nobody who became a somebody to rise above his uselessness. Not to mention they'd be perfect Rival Units for Project X Zone 3 and I wanna see both of them team up with Metal Face/Mumkhar, as well as Ouma Europe and other villains.
16:29 Why do fog beasts show up in Future Redeemed, but not Xenoblade 3 main story? The black fog is still present, so why not fog beasts. Also, why does the black fog show up in Aionios? Shouldn't Origin not manifest the black fog?
Cause aionios is stabilized by A, shulk and Rex after alpha goes berserk (who let the rifts open ip after he sought to collect the city people)
@@Luma_64 Then why is there still black fog after Aionios is stabilized?
@@sdtrawick because the 2 worlds are perpetually connected. Positive and negative attraction creates black fog
Hear me out Xenoblade warriors canon lore exposition
Xeno Warriors would go crazy
That’s damn right and I’ve been saying it since I finished Future Redeemed. It writes itself
Hey ! We already saw the black fog in Alrest ! The other half of Klaus's body is made of black fog ! And there is blue or purple in it, (sorry , I'm colorblind 😅) the colors that represents Bionis world ! And in the black fog of Wenoblade DE there are red or orange/yellow colors ! Gosh, it's crazy to think that Takahashi already imagined all that... It seems that when the black fog appear in one world, it's with the color of the other world in it... Well, great video ! Can't whait to see Xenoblade 4
Thanks from France ! 🇨🇵
Je ne dis pas que vous avez tort, mais nous ne voyons que les bêtes Orange/Yellow Fog dans Future Redeemed, dont je m'attendrais à voir les deux ? C’est quand même un détail intéressant à retenir et je garderai cela à l’esprit lorsque j’examinerai des choses à l’avenir.
My favourite xeno tuber is back 🔥
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Hearing all that talk about the fog king made me think… if it was happening in Rex’s world at the same time and what was being projected instead of infernal guldo? Maybe a Telethia?
20:12 Defeat the point? What is he talking about? The reason why we're asking is that we want to _know_ the point to begin with. I understand if these questions will/may be answered later in the future, and I accept that, but just tell us that it's not a question you can answer at this time instead of "knowing right now will partially defeat the point of XB3's story".
I think *you're* just saying that, JB. The article, at least from what is shown here, doesn't say that.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3's whole story, the whole thing you were working towards was an "Uncertain Future". Nobody knew what lay just beyond, maybe Moebius was right and everyone would die, bringing everything to an end or maybe people would flourish even more then before. Xenoblade 3 is a game about having hope that things will work out and STILL moving towards that Future. If you were too go back and say "Oh they lived happy ever after", then the whole point of Xenoblade 3's story leaving you on the cliffhanger with the uncertainty that things will work out in the future is erased. This is why Xenoblade 3's story was so beautiful and it's why we shouldn't know what the future entails until the next game
@@JBspherefreak Agree to disagree. It feels like we played two different games. Don't understand how the entire point of the story was to leave you on the cliffhanger. I agree with your first part, however. Uncertain future was a major theme in the game, but I disagree that it was the entire point. I just think that they wanted to leave themselves some wiggle room for the next game, and just stated that they couldn't' speak about it.
Knowing what happened with Noah and the gang _doesn't_ change the overall message in my eyes. The future is still uncertain, for good or bad, but for right now, everything is ok.
You don't even have to go that far, imo. [But that is just going into my headcanon at that point, so I'll stop]
Since we're a couple years away from the 10 year anniversary of XC2, do you think we'll get a definitive edition and an epilogue post game like they did with the original Xenoblade Chronicles game. It might clear up on the whereabouts of Malos, seeing a Telethia fog beast king, and might even reveal the identity of Mythra's child as well (although we might not know if this epilogue episode also begins at the same time as Future Connects).
Also regarding the Liberators situation, i was under the assumption that many of them happen to materialize to Aoinis much later in time out of per coincidence. I saw a theory on reddit that they just arrived on a later time in Aoinis as it explain why neither Rex and Shulk never made contact with the City until its destruction.
Imagine having 2 xenoblade 2 games on switch/switch 2 and no xenoblade x
I still don't see what the point of a XC2DE would be? I know it's kinda the trend at the moment for devs to just start re-making games that came out a few years ago but its not like XC2 is inaccessible or unplayable (Like XCX for example)
@@JBspherefreakI mean, Xenoblade 1 was still for sale when DE came out and it was actually more technically solid.(meanwhile 2 got framedrops everywhere and crashed on me at least twice, losing hours of progress)
This is pretty cool
thanks, it is mind boggling a lot of the confusion and plot holes are all explanined in the artbook instead of the game itself.
Also about Linka and Panacea and basically thwe rest of the NPC Liberators, there is actually a dialogue with Linka that kinda explained their existence in FR. You get this conversation with Linka when you save all the city npc and registered Linka with the golden Affinity ring.
Basically what she said is:
"Us Liberators originally lived in separate worlds"
"When Aionios was born, most people were assimilated by Origin, but there were also exceptions such as us"
Matthew asked why they are not assimilated
"That I do not know. The reason for our existence here is unclear"
"It may we have a role to play in this world. something like that"
Man, now I need Xenoblade 4.
I can finally go back to my post x2 theory that elma is galea.
With all Nopon being immortal in Aionios, Riku saying he's a common variety Nopon is the one thing he didn't lie about!
Even then I'm not sure that counts 😂
I know this is not an April fools joke but at first, I was a little hesitant just because of what day it was and how insane some of the confirmations were.
Only question I really had was how logos was able to return, but when you consider pneuma manages data of all blades that are relayed back to her, I don’t think it’s a stretch that Malos’s soul exist in her core. Also about origin: Origin metal is likely based off of the same material as the monado, considering Origin was based on the Ontos core architecture. Which is very specific wording which I think explains why origin metal is able to withstand annihilation. Also it’s not unenviable to think that origin would be constructed in about 20 years or so, considering the insane amount of technology they have at their disposal
I don't believe their tech is all that advanced tho all thouigh I don't feel like it is, maybe thats just a silly Headcannon thing I need to get over tho
@@JBspherefreak I think about it like this: if Russia was able to go to space with barely anything at their disposal before the Soviet Union was founded, then I don’t think it’s hard to believe that Origin was constructed in a couple decades with technology like the artifices, beanstalk, mechon tech, trinity processor tech, etc.
But they don't have access to all of that...Mechon fine sure but the people of Klaus' world built the Artifices, the beanstalk, the trinity processor and everything else and they had the tech to go to the Carina Nebula Galaxy. In the Xenoblade Timeline, it's been likely less than 30 years since they were using Mobile Artillery units
@@JBspherefreak if they were able to learn how ontos works and build origin based on it, I think they could’ve learned how those worked as well
for logos being alive its still a stretch but I assume its either memories of Agnians and or somehow Ion lives somewhere in space sense even though we see the crystal shatter its still in Ion and Its not like a aigis cant comeback after the crystal is drained and or shattered seeing as pnuema did it numerus times though thats just a theory a game theory I will now escort myself to the exit
edit: you then said some of what I said and fell over and died
Yea no, it works considering that he shouldn't be alive in the first place, I'm just thankful that it will probably be explained in a future game and then we can all just accept it then
As malos once said "Indeed!"
Excuse my English, but I need someone's help. Does anyone know where you can buy this book in Japan? A friend traveled and I wanted to take advantage of asking him to buy it for me. Thanks for the help
What if Malos was or became the black knight or original ares pilot
18:53 lol “for now”? I really hope people listen to the director when he says it’s not Galea
They kept hearing people call xenoblade 2 "Waifublade chronicales" and went "OH YOU WANT ALL THE WIVES AS THE XENOBLADE? THEN FINE, HAVE IT YOUR WAY"
Does this community meet somewhere outside of YT and /v/?
please i would do anything to get a xenowarriors game, it feels like it would be the perfect moment for it
16:03 when they stated. When THEY stated!
Didn't the artbook confirm A to be a woman? Like, explicitly refer to A as one?
A's Monado design spoiled me and seeing a similar look for Pneuma's sword makes me wish they will put it in the next game.
But what did Noah name lucky 7
if moebius are the collective conscious and Z hates the world. that means there are gonna be some form of criminals or terrorists in either keves or agnus which melia or nia have to take down
I mean your not wrong but I feel that was kinda obvious from the beginning. Z is just an Amalgamation of Negative thoughts and those don't have to come from bad people. I'm sure even the most innocent of people have thought have doing something bad before even if they'd never actually do it
If Fiora is Lucky Seven, then who is Nikol's mom?
Honnestly, this whole interview feel kinda like Takahashi didnt really wanted to do XC3 at first and is instead very much concerned about the next step in the serie
I mean not really, that's just how developers are, a lot of the same things were said when 2 came out iirc
I need whatever Takahashi is smoking
LFG!!!!!
Just common variety liarpon. Nothing more. 😎
FOR REAL!
Am I the only one who thinks Takahashi is just winging it? Why can't he just answer the questions? I think they just add to the story as they go...
Hey JB. As a fellow content creator, I hope you like my exploration into JP translation on the lore I've released similar to you. Great video as always
Nice work!
Good video jb however xenosaga is canon
Well, we can agree to disagree on the Xenosaga canon debate!
His point about Moebius was so great and i've been saying this for a long time, about how i actually like them a lot and find their concept way more endearing than the previous main villains, of course, i still think that there is way too many of them and that Z deserved more screen-time but still, them being a representation of some sort of goverment that have selfish and vain reasons to cause suffering and despair unto others and with then being a reflex of the dark side from humanity's collective unconscious was always something way more interesting than "JRPG Evil God n° 72783839" that needed a retcon to his own story in the second game to became way better and more unique and Malos which while he is charismatic honestly i never found him that interesting, he was just funny most of the time and i cared way more about Jin.
I also see Z being a villain that does nothing as a critic to how the leaders behind the system in real life wage wars while hiding behind propaganda, soldiers and etc. It's a common say that the ones that cause war, rarely give their own face on the battlefield and most of the time it's all about self interest at the expense of others lives and in that aspect, i find Z and Moebius genius specially afther the confirmation that this was truly their intention.
Moebius is a good villain. I do think that there should have been some changes made still but even then, the concept and idea is solid and just gets better the more you learn and think about it
Damn, Xenoblade 3 was such a poorly told narrative. Just imagine if a fraction of all that useless NPC dialogue were repurposed into explaining this stuff in game. Revealing this years after release is pointless. Also, it's irresponsible for Takahashi to avoid explaining the game he already made in anticipation of a game that is supposed to come out eventually.
I wouldn't exactly word it like that... granted I do think Xenoblade 3 has some room to be a bit more clear and concise but I wouldn't descibe it necessaily as poorly written. For instance, something I failed to talk about in the video (As I'd forgotten about it at the time as its rather nieche knowledge) is that the whole thing about Fiora and Lucky Seven IS actually hinted at in game but the Localization screwed it up. During FR and the scene where Riku talks about the sword, he actually uses the word "Person" in JP but in English and other languaged, it was translated into "People" as in Plural leading to the confusion
I also don't think its a bad thing to clearly to explain every aspect of a game as then it leaves no room for the possibility of theorising and exploring the games identity. I do think more should have been covered in this game that is directly relevant to the main story like why and how there are two Noah and Mio's and more history behind Aionios and what happened as there still remains a lot of blanks but things like the Black Fog and other aspects that may still be answered in a future game is best left unanswered in my opinion for right now
To clarify, not saying Xenoblade 3 was perfect and it for sure should have clarified some other points of the game but I don't think that makes it bad
@@JBspherefreak Theory crafting is fun for aspects that lack an emotional relevancy. The introduction of Shulk and Rex to Future Redeemed comes with a lot of emotional baggage. Given they both have wives and children, you'd think their actions in that DLC would reflect that. Imagine how emotionally distraught they must've been when their kids were first caught up in the perpetual Aionios war? That's barely addressed in game. Shulk mentioning that his wife became a sword would have helped explain why he wasn't worried about her. It would have let players realize they were being helped throughout their journey all this time. What good does that knowledge give us now, years after the game came out? The time to feel those emotions has long since passed. The base game ends with the same missed opportunity. Exactly what would happen to Noah and crew when the worlds separate again was poorly explained. They apparently knew they'd be pulled apart from each other, but it was a surprise for players. They'd been fighting to be together all this time, so you'd think there would be at least one scene where they came to the realization that to defeat Z, they'd have to say goodbye to each other. The best we get is a line or two from Nia's side story, which you can't play until AFTER beating the game. Even then, there was no shock or surprise, no moment for them to cope with the reveal. Meanwhile, you can spend hours reading all that useless NPC dialogue that does nothing to clarify the main narrative.
@@OtakuDaiKun Xc3's storytelling isn't exactly bad perse, but it's presentation isn't what it *should* be; it's storytelling is paced like a really well told Movie. The issues you bring up are more of a direct consequence of this though because Movie pacing works well for a movie because it's pacing compiles a larger story into a faster pacing, whereas a game inherently has more 'padding' between the story beats (i.e. the gameplay), a lot of storytellers learn to differentiate these practices, but Xc3's directors decided to pace the game like a movie, which certainly makes for a compelling narrative in a vacuum, but it's not exactly a good approach for a game. You brought up that things like them destroying the world weren't brought up in the story, but it is, and it's only brought up like... once, offhandedly, before dropping players into one of the most dramatic scenes in the game. Due to the way this is executed; this works in a lot of movies-- it does not work in a game.
Basically, my point is that it's 'Good Storytelling' for the 'Wrong Media'. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
@@RudiMyDear I wouldn't call it a "really well told" movie. Its entire climax left me frustrated all because we never got to see the characters realize and contend with the fact that they'd have to be apart as the worlds separate. Rather than truly feeling the emotions of that scene, I was left saying "what the hell is this?" In future Redeemed, an interesting emotional moment for Na'el was undermined by a radio dropping Xenosaga easter eggs. That would be distracting even for a movie.
@@OtakuDaiKun The first point is a topic I feel on a spiritual level. God the end of Xc3 is such a fucking mess. Yeah, y'know what I agree with you completely on that one, fuck the end of Xc3. first 2 acts were quite good for a movie, act 3 can rot in a barrel.
I’ve been saying this since FR came out and I’m gonna keep saying it until we get an official an official answer: Pyra and Mythra are not inside Noah’s seath, it simply does not make sense based on what is shown and said in the game.
If Pyra and Mythra are in Noah’s seath it means that Matthew or one his descendants gave the Gauntlets to Riku years after FR ending, when Riku was infiltrated in the Keves colonies and the house Vandham was away from the City, and then Riku used to Gauntlets to craft Noah’s seath, but the game never even implies that the Gauntlets were given to someone after FR, and it explicitly says that Riku uses Noah’s base sword to create a seath suited to hide Lucky Seven. I think that if Matthew really gave his Gauntlets to Riku or one of his descendants that then gave them to Riku, the game would have had at least a hint about it, but there are no such hints, and there’s also the fact that Noah’s seath doesn’t show to have powers even remotely similar to those we saw coming from Matthew’s Gauntlets (like giving people Ouroboros powers without the Ouroboros stone), in fact it doesn’t even show to have special powers in the first place, apart from being able to shapeshift into a gauntlet when Lucky Seven is drawn out which seems more like a convenient thing that Riku added than an actual power that comes from the seath.
At this point, knowing that Takahashi said that Noah throws Lucky Seven in the sea at the end of the game as a way to return it to Origin, the most logical conclusion I can think of is that at some point Matthew did the same with the Gauntlets, returning Pyra and Mythra to Origin.
To me, this whole “Pyra and Mythra are Noah’s seath” theory seems more like a way for the community to gaslight itself and it’s practically based on non-evidence used to support it, like the fact that Noah’s seath is red and Matthew’s Gauntlets are red (Noah’s base sword is red and Riku used it to create the seath), and now even the fact that a scrapped concept of the Sword of Origin looks similar to Pneuma’s sword; like, how can a concept that wasn’t even meant to be in the final game prove that Pyra and Mythra are in Noah’s seath?
If one day Takahashi confirms that they are in Noah’s seath, it will feel weird but I’ll have no problems accepting it, but as of right now, in my opinion there’s no logical evidence that supports this theory.
Sheath*
So you're telling me moebius represents capitalism? Thats so based my boy Takahashi be reading Marx out here
The problem is it also refers to the dictatorship of the polatariat IE the communist parties who was entrusted by the polatariat to rule the state and ended up in dictatorship like starlins,chairman mao, enver houxa etc this refers to politicians in general not just capitalists ones. And if you see north Korea Kim who is like Z doesn't want you to leave and wants the status quo his grandfather left his family with to remain.
this video isn’t long enough
Sorry Tindia-Senpai, I'll work harder next time, promise
What makes me sad the most is that Xenoblade games keep flopping in terms of sales. People hate this game just because it's Nintendo exclusive, and they want it to be on ps so that the graphics can be modern like all ps games.
The games don't really flop (at least by Nintendo standards).
We are just so used to seeing games make 5-10 million dollars or more. When a game makes 1 or 2 million, it can look like a flop even though it wasn't really one.
Yea, other then X which has it's own circumstances, each Xeno game has sold over 1 million copies which for JRPG standards is pretty darn good. I do think the graphics want updating with better hardware to boot but I wouldn't say that its a major issue that its locked to these consoles
@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg 1m is a flop bruh. The reason why most Nintendo IPs are dead is because they flopped in term of sales. Most gamers worldwide buy and play games on pc mobile phones and ps
@JBspherefreak well Persona is also anime style but they all sold crazy numbers on ps. While people hate Xenoblade. It's kinda weird
@@Rizky-GumilarLmao, you are kinda mad over here. Getting over 1m was considered a success for Xenosaga Episode 1, a game on the PS2, one of the most successful console plattforms of all time. They are entirely right that metrics are just diffrent for the genre. Besides, Nintendo would not have greenlit so many sequel-releases if they considered the series a flop.
If all the mobius characters where suppose to be completely unsympathetic then why give characters like Joran, Shania and especially N sob stories and even more insulting make the party easily forgive N when he has done nothing but be smug/ whiny asshole to everyone because “he’s Noah” ?
Empathy does not equal sympathy
The party didn't forgive N at all. Its a really similar situation with Egil where Shulk wasn't just going to forgive everything he did. Shulk was hoping Egil would be able to start over and fix what he has done.
It's the same thing with N but I guess literacy is just fucked these days.
@@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg mio basically told him that it was okay for him to protect the now despite everything he did including slaughtering his kids.
Because those are different characters, those are actual people. Takahashi is referring specifically to Moebius in this instance or in other words Z. Those that you just lifted off are basically his Avatars but they're still people so they do react like his old Villains by having their own motives and such. If you Look at the Moebius concept in a vaccum tho, this is where you get that unforgivable behaviour type of deal