Late: You guessed correct; the antishiny logic basically flips a single bit in the PID to ensure the shiny value is never shiny. Which bit it flips depends on the game (0x80000000 bit in Gen5, but Gen8 does 0x10000000). Why two different shiny types? My best guess is that someone in GameFreak wanted to have a "special" shiny type for Mystery Gift Pokémon, but the implementation was incomplete. They've gradually moved away from PID determining other attributes (like nature and gender) prior to Gen8; all it is used for now is shininess. They really could just do a rand(4096/rolls) or do multiple rand(4096)'s, and store it with 2 bits of data (shiny flag, rareShiny flag) rather than 32! There are a lot of "old" features in Pokémon data that can be done away with, but I guess it works well enough to not need changing.
Thanks for replying Kaphotics! A lot of this was done using already available online information (which was extraordinarily sparse), so I'm glad I at least hit it some what close to the mark! Thanks for the clarification!
I love how they were like "how can we make shines more rare? Let's add different sparkles!!" Then they fucked it up and then completely discarded the idea in the following games...
I'm glad they did ditch it though. Another layer of rarity on top of shinies would drive me insane. Marks are the best solution because you can modify their odds seperate to the shiny odds instead of boosting your shiny odds with a chance of faliure beyond not finding the desired shiny.
Gotta admit, I thought this video would be clickbait because I completely forgot that star sparkles were so rare in certain encounter methods. Such a well produced and informative video that feeds the information slow enough to not cause anyone interested to be turned off from watching through to the end. Bravo.
So glad you enjoyed it! What you explained was exactly what I was going for, so I'm glad to see my efforts pay off. Click-baiting doesn't do anything but hurt a channel, so anything I make, I try to meet the expectations of my thumbnail and title as much as I can. Thanks for watching! =)
This video is just what I was looking for for years! I suggested several times on different forums that square sparkles in the wild were either impossible or just rare as hell, and everyone was so sure that they did exist (and some even dared to say that the odds were 1/16... ¬¬), but no one ever posted evidence. I tried to look for clips myself, but given than no one realizes how incredible rare they are, they don't mention the star part in the description of the video or anything that could be helpful to identify them. You gave me peace, thank you so much!
THANK YOU i have been wondering about this for YEARS, ever since i first saw the datamines on the topic back in (i think) late 2019, but i never knew for certain how it worked because the topic is so niche and not many people know about it, so i couldn't actually find anything about it back in 2020 when i was researching the topic! glad to see a well-informed video on it
I just wanna say this is a great video and explains how shines are generated and then generated with square/star sparkles really well you did a fantastic job making this video
I believe people were complaining that shinies were getting easier to obtain, which is why gamefreak added a different shiny effect and marks, as well as rare forms of pokemon like Sinistea. The only problem was the shiny effects being completely broken leading them to be even rarer than they should of been
My shiny Trapinch I found accidentally during my first playthrough has star sparkles... Someone calculate the odds for me -Found it on Route 6 at a 1% spawn rate -No charm -Star sparkles I thought I was lucky enough..!!
@@JFlash727 it was on my switch lite which i've sent over for repairs right now! when it's done i'll see if i've recorded it or not, which i'm pretty sure i did
@lazyrainysoul Sweet! When you do, let me know if you upload it to TH-cam and to what channel. Just don’t post the link as a comment because TH-cam is smelly and will probably block your comment.
@@JFlash727 luckily that was the only questionable one on the list! Nothing to be but proud of this video you did a lot of research and executed it well don’t even worry :)
This is extraordinarily helpful information, and the video is incredibly well made. Well done, and I thank you for uploading this absolute star of a video.
This video is really informative for a feature that is mostly only seen in SwSh, which motivates me to try to find a star sparkle mon! I'm a shiny hunter and I've never found a star sparkle wild encounter before, so I will share my findings if I ever find one. Thanks so much for this video.
I finally found shiny Cobalion today after hunting on and off for 7 months. The moment I saw the star sparkles I immediately remembered your video. Thanks for your research, I probably would never have known that this is now my rarest shiny Pokemon
Thanks! No my switch has never been modified or been connected to a pc Edit: I meant physically connected (is that the only way to mod a switch? I have minimal knowledge on this topic). The video was transferred by qr code to mobile phone
Oh hey that's me at 14:52 lol, I might go back to that post and let Phillip know their Vanillite is famous. Amazing video btw, here's hoping more of these crazy star shinies pop up every now and again, it's an interesting part of Sw/Sh that no other game has, and i'd hate to see it die with gen 8 not being the current gen anymore.
Haha whats crazy is Philip has actually already commented on the video too, and another one of the commenters mentioned as well. Every person from that reddit thread I mentioned has found their way to this video, which is so cool!
I love how YEARS later we finally find out just how these shiny odds work! thank you so much for the insight as it's been such a common misconception (I myself included)
I had purposely not included the star/square sparkle rates of Pokemon from other games. If anyone is curious: The following Pokémon from past generations are more likely to be square shinies (65521/65536): - Fateful encounters (events, Virtual Console (VC) Celebi, etc.) - LGPE overworld shinies - Virtual Console Gen 1/2 shinies - Gen 7 wormhole shiny non-legends - Pokémon Go transfers Every other past generation shiny Pokémon has a 1/16 chance of being a square shiny in Galar when imported. Additionally, fateful encounters and Pokémon GO transfers have a visual override to always display as a square shiny even in the odd circumstances that they fall in the 15/65536 chances. This was sourced directly from Skadiv's Smogon guide, which you can find under resources in the description.
Great question! For Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, Pokémon Legends, and Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, they all retain the normal 1/16 square sparkle, and 15/16 star sparkles chance, as far as I am aware!
@@JFlash727 While Fateful Encounter Pokemon PIDs do point to Square or Star sparkles (RNG Reporter confirms this), it seems that the Fateful Encounter flag itself overwrites this check and defaults to Square Sparkles. This was likely supposed to make event shinies feels special and rare, but we all know how Square Sparkle rarity ended up lol.
this just made me relise the hattrene i caught midway thru my sword gameplay had star sparkles? I never saw it again in the game other than on her so I thought I was hallucinating everytime i saw hers
I loved the editing in this video! Can't wait for the upload next year! I really like having Star and Square sparkles! Although really unlikely, I really hope they come back for future Pokémon games. Is it bad that I'm now considering hunting one after seeing the 1/6m chance with Shiny Charm and 1/2m with Brilliant Aura? It might seem a little bit more manageable than 1/17m... although, I should maybe finish that second Alolan Sandshrew Square Shiny hunt first before even considering that, hahah.
I don't have any star sparkle wild encounter shinies but I did get a square sparkle Registeel. and I believe the Regis are almost always star sparkles, so that's pretty cool
I immediately spotted the difference and I'm sure it's explained right away, but I'll take a crack at it. Overworld Random Encounter and Static Encounter shinies are biased towards the Square Particle effect for their shiny. What was shown in the Virizion clip was the Traditional Shiny effect or as the community dubbed it "Star Shiny" which is more common in pokemon transferred into SWSH, Max Raid Encounters or Hatched from eggs.
Firstly, congrats, this is amazingly done video! So well edited, informative and resourceful. Square and Stars sparkles have always been an interesting subject to me and I wish this information was more spread So, if I understood correctly (and I'm sorry if I didn’t), the game has a completely different approach to determine if those type of encounters are shiny or not, that doesn’t take into consideration the traditional TID/SID/PID formula. What is this approach, exactly? Is it similar to BDSP, where the shiny value for static encounters doesn’t depend on your trainer info at all? Does the same thing happens in ScVi?
That is right, it is a different approach. This approach, however, was in no way further elaborated on by data miners, so all I knew was what I said in the video. Baseline, what we know is there is some system that predetermined a Pokémon to be shiny at whatever shiny chance you may currently be using before the traditional TID/SID/PID formula, and as for why specifically? We have yet to be told.
Wait, that means that a random shiny I got was also impossibly lucky. I am working on a living dex so I bred a few pokemon to fill in the numbers, one of them was a Galarian Corsola. The first was normal but the other one was shiny, a square shiny. Pity that the ability is wrong but it is wild.
uh , Hello, ex shiny hunter here! I used to be really into shiny hunting for many years since 2011 actually. i stumbled upon this video in my feed and i happened to click on this. back in 2020 i remember running into a star shiny Arrokuda, I sadly transferred it to generation 9 and ended up trading it...... i had the shiny charm and i was looking for a shiny chewtle at the time.. of obtaining it. i vividly remember questioning why it had star sparkles to a friend of mine and they said "eh they're the same as squares" :p if i knew how rare it was, i wouldn't have done that!!! im actually in MASSIVE shock at the moment, i thought my 5IV shiny random encounter full odds feebas was my rarest find... i scoured both of my SD cards to see if i can find the clip. but sadly my older SD got corrupt .. :( I named her Barraskrewya, cuz i actually really despised barraskewda for the longest time haha.
The math behind all this is pretty cool, thanks for the trivia... but the square shinies are prettier tbh lol, and they didn't even transfer this to the next games
the first bit being shiny verizion gave me bad memories of hunting that lady myself. 6 months of hunting and I think like almost 10k camp resets it was a NIGHTMARE lmao. but at least cobalion was nice at 350ish resets. (and thankfully verizion was nice and was marked for me)
Awesome and very informative video ! Most rare shiny I have is a Square Hatched Female Combee at no more than 200 hatched It’s like the only video I’ve uploaded to my channel
I have a square hatched shiny charmander, and honestly i think multiple star shiny RE gonna boot up my sw/sh and check should note i do have shiny charm on there (i have every dex filled from sun through to violet even ultra sun idk why)
I remember hearing on release of sword and shield that the square shiny odds in wild encounters are actually bugged and that the brilliant Pokémon are the ones who have the increased shiny odds. Idk if this was true or just some placebo effect many people were speculating on the game’s release.
I can't say that I've gotten a wild star shiny in Pokemon SwSh, but what I CAN say is that I've encountered double starter shinies in Soul Silver, with a whopping 1/67 million chance of happening! The video is in my channel!
I have come back to this video, but my first time watching it made me fasinated by sw/sh all i think about now when i hunt wild pokemon is if it will be star shinies, im going for the full dex now just to see if one of them will be shiny, im only doing all the mons in the wild ofc
I have a star shiny Obstagoon from SwSh!!! It was in a dyna raid. 3 other people somewhere in the world have the same one since I opened it to public. So cool.
Square shiny Regis have a 1/16 chance! They’re usually star sparkle at the 15/16 chance. Not as rare as the star shinies I’m talking about in this video, but still pretty rare! Congrats!
It's quite odd yup, but yeah, everything transferred from older games like Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire for example are all rarer to be Square Shiny, at the 1/16 chance.
Without full video context surrounding a Star Shiny encounter, late 2021 is really the latest these rarities are 'accurate' as well, because it was about that point that overworld RNG manipulation in SwSh became tooled, documented and accessible. Case in point, I RNG manip'd the three Swords of Justice to be Star Shiny using a basic YT tutorial that wound up in my Recommended feed (nothing more to it than logging a string of menu animations as 0 or 1), and had no idea they were quite so rare until years later!
While you’re technically right, getting this shiny randomly without the use of exploits like rng manipulation is pretty much next to none. The inherit rarity of shinies is subjective to many anyway.
Welcome! Small world! Had to double check, but you’re the one who posted some comments on the Star Shiny Vanillite video on Reddit! Hope you enjoyed the video! 😊
Bruh the 3 people under this video saying that they have one must be trippin. With those odds everyone watching this video (currently 38k views) would have had to encounter an average of 1400 Pokemon for this to be probabel. And then not even replying when asked for a video
8:50 would had been neat if you had swapped the "Forced" and "Natural" to emphasize the point, as you were explaining there's no way of knowing while also almost contradicting yourself by implying that the one is a "forced" and the other is a "natural."
@@Kana_Minomafu like mentioned in the video, Pokemon caught in the Motostoke gym are commonly star shiny 15/16 of the time. They are static encounters. Your star shiny litwick is common.
Do the many star shinies I've found in Let's Go, PLA, and SV count lol? I have actually found a full-odds shiny Espathra in SV with a mark on it. It's not a star shiny, but it's pretty rare itself. Also, imagine getting two identical star shiny wild encounter Spinda
wait so if im getting it right, does this mean that theres a greater than 1/4096 chance of shinies? because the game can force a pokemon to be shiny before even doing that calc => calc comes out says no this isnt shiny => predeterminism says yes it is => high chance of a forced shiny? pls correct if i am not getting that
The predetermining system uses whatever shiny chance you may have at the time. So if you have shiny charm, there is a 1/1365 chance a Pokémon is forced shiny, or if you don't have charm, a 1/4096 chance it is forced shiny, etc. Hope this helps!
Also, shinies that are not predetermined and still roll the shiny value are most likely reverted to non-shiny, which counters the game’s ability to force a predetermined shiny
@@pinklikemizutsune3336 Nope! They are actually considered an Overworld Spawn. The only difference they have from regular strong spawn Pokémon is that they respawn if you leave the vicinity and come back, or enter Pokémon camp and leave, unlike how strong spawn Pokémon you have to wait 24 hours. The Sword Trio, and Spirtomb share this trait, and have the rare chance at being star shiny.
I know you use Virizion as an example but would the same apply to the two new Regi of the DLC? I got one star and the other square. Well I originally got both star and failed one...the reclaimed was square. It was a first encouter Regieleki and I was not prepared! I was just doing a test run
UM?? The Regis are biased towards star sparkles??? REALLY? ...just got a square sparkle Regirock about a week ago in 320 encounters. Oh sheesh. Was a week ago, but suddenly my heart is pumping just as much as it did then
Late: You guessed correct; the antishiny logic basically flips a single bit in the PID to ensure the shiny value is never shiny. Which bit it flips depends on the game (0x80000000 bit in Gen5, but Gen8 does 0x10000000).
Why two different shiny types? My best guess is that someone in GameFreak wanted to have a "special" shiny type for Mystery Gift Pokémon, but the implementation was incomplete. They've gradually moved away from PID determining other attributes (like nature and gender) prior to Gen8; all it is used for now is shininess. They really could just do a rand(4096/rolls) or do multiple rand(4096)'s, and store it with 2 bits of data (shiny flag, rareShiny flag) rather than 32! There are a lot of "old" features in Pokémon data that can be done away with, but I guess it works well enough to not need changing.
Thanks for replying Kaphotics! A lot of this was done using already available online information (which was extraordinarily sparse), so I'm glad I at least hit it some what close to the mark! Thanks for the clarification!
time to find a star sparkle, wild shiny, full odds, authentic, sinistea, with the Rare mark, no mark charm, and pokerus!!!!
so i (think i) found the odds to said theoretical pokemon - ~1 / 39,321,000,000,000,000
which is 1 in 39.321 quadrillion
@@markerssmellgood7289 well, get started
bro is NOT finding that shiny
Coming back in 2078 to see what phase you’re on.
I love how they were like "how can we make shines more rare? Let's add different sparkles!!"
Then they fucked it up and then completely discarded the idea in the following games...
Marked shinies exist so not really
I have a rare mark shiny Sandy Shocks @@athena5172
I'm glad they did ditch it though. Another layer of rarity on top of shinies would drive me insane. Marks are the best solution because you can modify their odds seperate to the shiny odds instead of boosting your shiny odds with a chance of faliure beyond not finding the desired shiny.
Glad they did, the squares animation is hideous and i hated that most of my finds in swsh had ugly sparkles
Gotta admit, I thought this video would be clickbait because I completely forgot that star sparkles were so rare in certain encounter methods. Such a well produced and informative video that feeds the information slow enough to not cause anyone interested to be turned off from watching through to the end. Bravo.
So glad you enjoyed it! What you explained was exactly what I was going for, so I'm glad to see my efforts pay off. Click-baiting doesn't do anything but hurt a channel, so anything I make, I try to meet the expectations of my thumbnail and title as much as I can. Thanks for watching! =)
👏👏👏👏👏 good to know you don’t do click bait
This video is just what I was looking for for years! I suggested several times on different forums that square sparkles in the wild were either impossible or just rare as hell, and everyone was so sure that they did exist (and some even dared to say that the odds were 1/16... ¬¬), but no one ever posted evidence. I tried to look for clips myself, but given than no one realizes how incredible rare they are, they don't mention the star part in the description of the video or anything that could be helpful to identify them. You gave me peace, thank you so much!
HE FINALLY USED THE THUMBNAIL!!!!
I DID 🔥🔥🔥
Next video: building Pokemon shield in minecraft (can I get the one in 6 million shiny?) 😂
A Minecraft TH-camr? What this is Pokémon
THANK YOU i have been wondering about this for YEARS, ever since i first saw the datamines on the topic back in (i think) late 2019, but i never knew for certain how it worked because the topic is so niche and not many people know about it, so i couldn't actually find anything about it back in 2020 when i was researching the topic! glad to see a well-informed video on it
I just wanna say this is a great video and explains how shines are generated and then generated with square/star sparkles really well you did a fantastic job making this video
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!!
Okay who at GameFreak decided "hey, we should add an alternate form of shiny to make certain shinies even rarer?"
You rift raff and Chad gorrusaurus are the same
I believe people were complaining that shinies were getting easier to obtain, which is why gamefreak added a different shiny effect and marks, as well as rare forms of pokemon like Sinistea. The only problem was the shiny effects being completely broken leading them to be even rarer than they should of been
I don't like Sword and Shield as games, but learning about this deep shiny mechanic makes me appreciate those games more
My shiny Trapinch I found accidentally during my first playthrough has star sparkles... Someone calculate the odds for me
-Found it on Route 6 at a 1% spawn rate
-No charm
-Star sparkles
I thought I was lucky enough..!!
Do you have a video of it by chance?
@@JFlash727 it was on my switch lite which i've sent over for repairs right now! when it's done i'll see if i've recorded it or not, which i'm pretty sure i did
@lazyrainysoul Sweet! When you do, let me know if you upload it to TH-cam and to what channel. Just don’t post the link as a comment because TH-cam is smelly and will probably block your comment.
Did you? @@lazyrainysoul
Kevdog openly uses modified switches sadly makes me question the legitimacy of the sharpedo clip ):
Ah, you’re very much correct it sadly seems. He has other star shinies on his account.
Well, as far as others go they seem to be the real deal!
@@JFlash727 luckily that was the only questionable one on the list! Nothing to be but proud of this video you did a lot of research and executed it well don’t even worry :)
I have KevDog's Shiny Scizor
@@OmniSaiyan-dd5bo Everyone does. He's a serial cheater and constantly hands out cheated shinies
As open I am to emulating and hacking older pokemon games, hacking in shinies just kinda takes the fun out of getting them, so I never do it.
never would i ever think about these Odds. You explained it so well for me to understand 👍 this is insane information
I like those odds. Time to start a hunt for one
This is extraordinarily helpful information, and the video is incredibly well made. Well done, and I thank you for uploading this absolute star of a video.
And thank you kind sir for supplying the clip of the curry shiny Abomasnow 🫡
Imagine being so bad at programming that you can't make a rare version of a shiny to be rare as supposed.
Bro you have the editing and content of a 3M+ subs channel. Keep going bro.
I appreciate it man! Trying to be the best I can! More content is for sure on the way!
This video is really informative for a feature that is mostly only seen in SwSh, which motivates me to try to find a star sparkle mon! I'm a shiny hunter and I've never found a star sparkle wild encounter before, so I will share my findings if I ever find one. Thanks so much for this video.
I finally found shiny Cobalion today after hunting on and off for 7 months. The moment I saw the star sparkles I immediately remembered your video. Thanks for your research, I probably would never have known that this is now my rarest shiny Pokemon
I uploaded the clip in case you're interested to see it. I also have a clip of the catch but I don't know how to include it
@@bxnette_x very cool! Out of curiosity, do you have a modded switch and or have modified your game before? If not, congrats on this super rare find!
Thanks! No my switch has never been modified or been connected to a pc
Edit: I meant physically connected (is that the only way to mod a switch? I have minimal knowledge on this topic). The video was transferred by qr code to mobile phone
Dang, yeah so that’s legit! Now all we need to do is find a star shiny Terrakion!
Oh hey that's me at 14:52 lol, I might go back to that post and let Phillip know their Vanillite is famous.
Amazing video btw, here's hoping more of these crazy star shinies pop up every now and again, it's an interesting part of Sw/Sh that no other game has, and i'd hate to see it die with gen 8 not being the current gen anymore.
Haha whats crazy is Philip has actually already commented on the video too, and another one of the commenters mentioned as well. Every person from that reddit thread I mentioned has found their way to this video, which is so cool!
I love how YEARS later we finally find out just how these shiny odds work! thank you so much for the insight as it's been such a common misconception (I myself included)
im watching this at the end of a night shift andi have no idea what these words mean but i like the shiny noises
so basically a wild star shiny is a double shiny
Shiny²
Yes. But Virizion is a Static Spawn, which is almost always Star
I still find it hilarious that SwSh introduced the whole square/star sparkle difference only to never use it again. 10/10 troll GameFreak!
missed one that has 15/16 star rate, thats pokemon transferred up from previous generations
I had purposely not included the star/square sparkle rates of Pokemon from other games. If anyone is curious:
The following Pokémon from past generations are more likely to be square shinies (65521/65536):
- Fateful encounters (events, Virtual Console (VC) Celebi, etc.)
- LGPE overworld shinies
- Virtual Console Gen 1/2 shinies
- Gen 7 wormhole shiny non-legends
- Pokémon Go transfers
Every other past generation shiny Pokémon has a 1/16 chance of being a square shiny in Galar when imported. Additionally, fateful encounters and Pokémon GO transfers have a visual override to always display as a square shiny even in the odd circumstances that they fall in the 15/65536 chances.
This was sourced directly from Skadiv's Smogon guide, which you can find under resources in the description.
@@JFlash727what about legends and scarlet/violet?
Great question! For Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, Pokémon Legends, and Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, they all retain the normal 1/16 square sparkle, and 15/16 star sparkles chance, as far as I am aware!
@@JFlash727 While Fateful Encounter Pokemon PIDs do point to Square or Star sparkles (RNG Reporter confirms this), it seems that the Fateful Encounter flag itself overwrites this check and defaults to Square Sparkles.
This was likely supposed to make event shinies feels special and rare, but we all know how Square Sparkle rarity ended up lol.
Pokemon sure has some crazy rare events
So what about authentic Sinistea in grass pop ups? What the odds of those having stars instead of squares? I want to see the big number!
It’s like whatever 0.00368690569181% is as a fraction (I forgot the shiny charm odds so I used full odds for this)
It would just be 1/18,000,000 times 1/8, so about 1/144,000,000
this just made me relise the hattrene i caught midway thru my sword gameplay had star sparkles? I never saw it again in the game other than on her so I thought I was hallucinating everytime i saw hers
If you have a video of it, I'd love to see it!
No lie, i got 2 back to back. And then i woke up :(
I've played SwSh without ever knowing about this! I'll keep this in mind when I revisit these games~
I loved the editing in this video! Can't wait for the upload next year!
I really like having Star and Square sparkles! Although really unlikely, I really hope they come back for future Pokémon games.
Is it bad that I'm now considering hunting one after seeing the 1/6m chance with Shiny Charm and 1/2m with Brilliant Aura? It might seem a little bit more manageable than 1/17m... although, I should maybe finish that second Alolan Sandshrew Square Shiny hunt first before even considering that, hahah.
very informative video! this is something i always wondered about
Bro my first shiny was a star sparkle eevee I found in a raid and evolved it into an umbreon that’s actually crazy
Raids commonly have star sparkles. Unfortunately, yours isnt rare.
@ oh. Still I got an eevee so I got 9 options :)
why on earth did they do it this way lmao
Imagine someone getting a star shiny antique sinistea.
I don't have any star sparkle wild encounter shinies but I did get a square sparkle Registeel. and I believe the Regis are almost always star sparkles, so that's pretty cool
Yaknow... I thought the squares were more rare. Explains how I got two wild encounters with square sparkles LOL. I just thought I was cracked
I immediately spotted the difference and I'm sure it's explained right away, but I'll take a crack at it. Overworld Random Encounter and Static Encounter shinies are biased towards the Square Particle effect for their shiny. What was shown in the Virizion clip was the Traditional Shiny effect or as the community dubbed it "Star Shiny" which is more common in pokemon transferred into SWSH, Max Raid Encounters or Hatched from eggs.
Yoooo I know this guy!! Sick video man!
Firstly, congrats, this is amazingly done video! So well edited, informative and resourceful. Square and Stars sparkles have always been an interesting subject to me and I wish this information was more spread
So, if I understood correctly (and I'm sorry if I didn’t), the game has a completely different approach to determine if those type of encounters are shiny or not, that doesn’t take into consideration the traditional TID/SID/PID formula. What is this approach, exactly? Is it similar to BDSP, where the shiny value for static encounters doesn’t depend on your trainer info at all? Does the same thing happens in ScVi?
That is right, it is a different approach. This approach, however, was in no way further elaborated on by data miners, so all I knew was what I said in the video. Baseline, what we know is there is some system that predetermined a Pokémon to be shiny at whatever shiny chance you may currently be using before the traditional TID/SID/PID formula, and as for why specifically? We have yet to be told.
Imagine how many people have found a star sparkle and just thought nothing about it
Wait, that means that a random shiny I got was also impossibly lucky.
I am working on a living dex so I bred a few pokemon to fill in the numbers, one of them was a Galarian Corsola. The first was normal but the other one was shiny, a square shiny. Pity that the ability is wrong but it is wild.
Video so good i eated 3 ice creams
me immediately going to check all of my shinies lmao
BRO YOU BROUGHT ME LUCK. Finally found my shiny mewtwo in let’s go at 2:29 :)
Let's go!!! So happy you had this on the side while hunting, glad the section talking about how shinies work got you your shiny haha!
uh , Hello, ex shiny hunter here!
I used to be really into shiny hunting for many years since 2011 actually.
i stumbled upon this video in my feed and i happened to click on this.
back in 2020 i remember running into a star shiny Arrokuda, I sadly transferred it to generation 9 and ended up trading it...... i had the shiny charm and i was looking for a shiny chewtle at the time.. of obtaining it. i vividly remember questioning why it had star sparkles to a friend of mine and they said "eh they're the same as squares" :p
if i knew how rare it was, i wouldn't have done that!!! im actually in MASSIVE shock at the moment,
i thought my 5IV shiny random encounter full odds feebas was my rarest find...
i scoured both of my SD cards to see if i can find the clip. but sadly my older SD got corrupt .. :(
I named her Barraskrewya, cuz i actually really despised barraskewda for the longest time haha.
Why did it take me 4 Justins to realize this was NOT Minutes. 💀 💀
The math behind all this is pretty cool, thanks for the trivia... but the square shinies are prettier tbh lol, and they didn't even transfer this to the next games
the first bit being shiny verizion gave me bad memories of hunting that lady myself. 6 months of hunting and I think like almost 10k camp resets it was a NIGHTMARE lmao. but at least cobalion was nice at 350ish resets. (and thankfully verizion was nice and was marked for me)
I remember how disappointed I was when I found a full odds shiny Clefairy in BW2 without even knowing what shinies were.
I’m a shiny hunter since gen 2, I hate how shinies are common nowdays, my fav pokemon is mewtwo and I’m so proud I hunted my shiny in fire red❤
Awesome and very informative video !
Most rare shiny I have is a Square Hatched Female Combee at no more than 200 hatched
It’s like the only video I’ve uploaded to my channel
I have a square hatched shiny charmander, and honestly i think multiple star shiny RE gonna boot up my sw/sh and check should note i do have shiny charm on there (i have every dex filled from sun through to violet even ultra sun idk why)
Why did it take me 4 mins to realize this was NOT me 💀💀
Wonder what the calcs are for an authentic shiny Sinistea with Pokérus, Star sparkles, and a rare mark are lmao. Add perfect IVs too, why not.
0% with perfect IVs because from what I remember, wild perfect IV is impossible on non brilliant aura
I remember hearing on release of sword and shield that the square shiny odds in wild encounters are actually bugged and that the brilliant Pokémon are the ones who have the increased shiny odds. Idk if this was true or just some placebo effect many people were speculating on the game’s release.
Yep that’s correct! This was actually confirmed way after the fact!
I can't say that I've gotten a wild star shiny in Pokemon SwSh, but what I CAN say is that I've encountered double starter shinies in Soul Silver, with a whopping 1/67 million chance of happening! The video is in my channel!
I have come back to this video, but my first time watching it made me fasinated by sw/sh all i think about now when i hunt wild pokemon is if it will be star shinies, im going for the full dex now just to see if one of them will be shiny, im only doing all the mons in the wild ofc
That's funny, I found a shiny Virizion in Black 2 many years ago by accident.
I think you sort of just explained how the social networks formula on the window works with these pokemon I’d
I may still have a game clip of a wild star shiny. I have caught one or two in SWSH within the first year it came out
I have a star shiny Obstagoon from SwSh!!! It was in a dyna raid. 3 other people somewhere in the world have the same one since I opened it to public. So cool.
1:49 This is not rare. Raid dens commonly have star shinies at the 15/16 chance.
I found a shiny square Regidrago in May. Does that count, then?
Square shiny Regis have a 1/16 chance! They’re usually star sparkle at the 15/16 chance. Not as rare as the star shinies I’m talking about in this video, but still pretty rare! Congrats!
Why did it take me 4 mins to realize this was NOT Justin 💀💀
So square shinys captured in previous games are still rarer than star shiny ones?
The truth is that im still somewhat confused
It's quite odd yup, but yeah, everything transferred from older games like Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire for example are all rarer to be Square Shiny, at the 1/16 chance.
I may not have a star sparkle shiny wild pokemon, but I'm okay with my random full odds 1/4,096,000 shiny rare mark Masquerain from Pokemon Violet
Without full video context surrounding a Star Shiny encounter, late 2021 is really the latest these rarities are 'accurate' as well, because it was about that point that overworld RNG manipulation in SwSh became tooled, documented and accessible. Case in point, I RNG manip'd the three Swords of Justice to be Star Shiny using a basic YT tutorial that wound up in my Recommended feed (nothing more to it than logging a string of menu animations as 0 or 1), and had no idea they were quite so rare until years later!
While you’re technically right, getting this shiny randomly without the use of exploits like rng manipulation is pretty much next to none. The inherit rarity of shinies is subjective to many anyway.
Wait three years ago I had my shiny Regirock in like 3500 encounters in Pokemon Shield and it was a star shiny so what was the rate?
They have the normal star and square sparkle chance. The Regis are very commonly star.
@@JFlash727 so is it like the same chance as the egg?
@@Michtochoco yup
@@JFlash727 oh nice thanks!
Looks like I have a new shiny Hunting goal, find a star shiny in the wild
Whoa im in your video😮
Welcome! Small world! Had to double check, but you’re the one who posted some comments on the Star Shiny Vanillite video on Reddit! Hope you enjoyed the video! 😊
hi liz!
@@thefinalduane hi duane👋
Literally the only thing I can possibly think of that is more rare than this is a wild shiny with pokerus in the old games. 1/178,956,971 odds
I found a 10 percent encounter star shiny critical capture applin and lost my mind when it happened
Also full odds
If it was from a tree, then it's the normal 15/16 star sparkle odds. Otherwise, if you have a video of it, I'd love to see it!
That's cause the odds for stars and squares sparkles were switched for random encounters by mistake i believe
What would be the rarest fish in the game? 🎣✨
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Ofc, we love Matt
I see why they removed the Star and Square shiny sparkles in Paldea
I wish they kept different sparkles
its a shame they didnt carry the star and square sparkles to scarlet and violet :((
Now I have to check if any of my shines have stars
Not sure if it’s on the same level, but I have a hatched shiny impidimp with square sparkles. All my other egg shinies have star.
Thats a 1/16 chance! Congrats! (Multiply this 1/16 by whatever the shiny odds you used were!)
so i got a question what about transfering shinies from older games, can that affect sparkles?
Yup! There should be a comment about me answering that if you dig a bit.
Bruh the 3 people under this video saying that they have one must be trippin. With those odds everyone watching this video (currently 38k views) would have had to encounter an average of 1400 Pokemon for this to be probabel. And then not even replying when asked for a video
8:50 would had been neat if you had swapped the "Forced" and "Natural" to emphasize the point, as you were explaining there's no way of knowing while also almost contradicting yourself by implying that the one is a "forced" and the other is a "natural."
I very well may have had one, around release of swsh i thin ki found a wild shiny with stars, that was years ago so my memorie could just be foggy.
And yet I thought getting a random shiny overworld star sparkles Tyrunt wasn't that special lol
Wait im really confused... i caught a shint litwick at the motostoke gym and its star shiny . Does it count as a wild encounter or not ? Please help
@@Kana_Minomafu like mentioned in the video, Pokemon caught in the Motostoke gym are commonly star shiny 15/16 of the time. They are static encounters. Your star shiny litwick is common.
@JFlash727 ah few
Cool, cool, video!
So after watching this i realised I have a star sparkles wailord that I got from the static encounter that's the 1/18million chance isn't it?
Do the many star shinies I've found in Let's Go, PLA, and SV count lol?
I have actually found a full-odds shiny Espathra in SV with a mark on it. It's not a star shiny, but it's pretty rare itself.
Also, imagine getting two identical star shiny wild encounter Spinda
Im pretty sure i found a shiny excadrill in Sword with star sparkles. Ran at me when I tried to avoid it
wait so if im getting it right, does this mean that theres a greater than 1/4096 chance of shinies? because the game can force a pokemon to be shiny before even doing that calc => calc comes out says no this isnt shiny => predeterminism says yes it is => high chance of a forced shiny? pls correct if i am not getting that
The predetermining system uses whatever shiny chance you may have at the time. So if you have shiny charm, there is a 1/1365 chance a Pokémon is forced shiny, or if you don't have charm, a 1/4096 chance it is forced shiny, etc. Hope this helps!
Also, shinies that are not predetermined and still roll the shiny value are most likely reverted to non-shiny, which counters the game’s ability to force a predetermined shiny
I see that static encounters had star sparkles, though i may be mistaken
Yup. Static encounters would be Pokémon like the Regis.
@@JFlash727 arent the sword of justice considered static though?
@@pinklikemizutsune3336 Nope! They are actually considered an Overworld Spawn. The only difference they have from regular strong spawn Pokémon is that they respawn if you leave the vicinity and come back, or enter Pokémon camp and leave, unlike how strong spawn Pokémon you have to wait 24 hours. The Sword Trio, and Spirtomb share this trait, and have the rare chance at being star shiny.
@@JFlash727 interesting! Been a long time since ive touched swsh, so my memory’s a bit foggy
Square sparkles were just in sword and shield right
Yep!
i think i had like 2 rare shinies in swsh and i loved them lmaoo
Hi! Would the star sparkles from hatching eggs be the same odds?
1:47
I know you use Virizion as an example but would the same apply to the two new Regi of the DLC? I got one star and the other square. Well I originally got both star and failed one...the reclaimed was square. It was a first encouter Regieleki and I was not prepared! I was just doing a test run
@@Starwars4J 1:38
I’ve transferred my shiny Jumbo Golurk from SV back to Sword for a ribbon, and he was a star shiny, is that anything notable?
lol no, thats just a regular star from SV
@@mobious01 so all SV shinies that can be transferred to Sword and Shield are automatically programmed to be star shinies?
@@meta13gaming Either star or square at the normal star and square sparkle odds!
@ItsRJ_YT found a shiny Farfetch'd with star sparkles in his Pokémon Sword Shiny Only Hardcore Nuzlocke !
Had each and every one of these shinys.... they were all hacked and now live in the wild (I let them go)
The only star shinies I have is a wild shiny haxorus without shiny charm and a star articuno from dynamax adventure
UM?? The Regis are biased towards star sparkles??? REALLY?
...just got a square sparkle Regirock about a week ago in 320 encounters. Oh sheesh. Was a week ago, but suddenly my heart is pumping just as much as it did then
Yeah, 1/16 chance! Super cool find, congrats!
@@JFlash727 haha, thanks!