Just built my first PC last week. Went for a 7800xt with a 7800x3d, also. Extremely happy with it so far. Playing Starfield with everything maxed at 1440p and it runs like a dream.
Im building my pc this weekend, i got the 7800x3d and was going to pair with 7800xt or the 7900gre but ended up buying a 4080 super, a little nervous about building but thanks to pc centric i have a guide 😁
I'm doing unholy amounts of research over the best pc components available after saving for years for my first computer build knowing full well I will only play pixel indie rpgs on it.
I have the Gigabyte 7800xt, play at 1440p and have 0 complaints. 16 GB VRAM, power efficient, and this thing stays nice and cool under load. For 500$, you can't beat it. Sure FSR may not be as good as DLSS, and Ray Tracing is iffy, but I'd take that extra VRAM, especially looking forward over the next few years.
If you play at 1440p, 12gb doesn't really matter. Just sayin. That's a 4k problem. Edit: I had the choice and went with a 4070super. Raw perf, the 7900 is better. But dlss in single player games, and bam you rip the 7900 to shreds. Multiplayer games are reduced in spec so everyone can play them anyway. No real upside.
Also, the 7900 is 700, and at that point, might as well consider the ti super....and then, you might as well get the 4080 super. The 4070 super is the king in its price range for a reason. And if you were going for 4k, youd buy the 4080. The argument you (and lots of computer junkies, not just you) present doesn't actually make sense. Gamers, on average, buy a computer, then upgrade in 5 years anyway. The whole "futureproofing," thing is silly. If you "futureproofed," last gen and spent 12-1500 (or more) and got the 3090, a 600 dollar card does the same thing next generation. 🤷♂️ Buy for now. Cross the next bridge when you get there, instead of worrying about its construction before you've even seen it.
Actually, there is an exception. And it's at the very low end. If you can only afford a low tier proc, it might be worth looking into your upgrade in say, the next 6 months or a year. You can buy, then sell when you upgrade. And you won't lose much on the low end. In that case, if you like amd and can swing it, get the best chip that supports your gpu while taking socket in mind. But honestly, this is and extremely small portion of the population as people building budget pcs are probably looking at used components anyway, which...is probably gonna yeild better results.
I'm currently building a PC, and I'm struggling to pick parts. This really helped. On a side note, the two GPUs on the left wobbling every time he touched the table gave me so much anxiety.
Recently finished my new gaming rig, and paired a 7800 XT with 7800X3D. Zero regrets with that card, it's absolutely perfect for the games I play (Baldurs Gate 3, WoW, Overwatch for example) and am able to play everything maxed out. No regrets with that card whatsoever-great value
WoW is pretty demanding in raid size groups even at low settings. My 6700k, gtx 980 ti starting to struggle with WoW - useful to know amd works with wow and with max. Speccing a new pc now and was wondering about amd.
@@danielbarnett5764 You have two options with amd, really, either get an AM4 mother board, DDR4 Ram and get the 5800x3D processor. Or just go full AM5 with DDR5 ram and get the 7800x3d. Both processors dominate in gaming due to the size of the cache. If you are more on a budget go for the AM4, AM5 if you don't mind spending extra. Now, the real weight will be that 980ti. Perhaps time to upgrade? 6700xt is dynamite for 1080p/1440p gaming. Also! Get a thermal peerless assassin 120 SE cpu cooler, 30 dollars and one of the best air coolers you can get.
@@Mr.Swolo90Honestly, the entire rig feels buttery smooth now. In my previous set up I used to get a lot of FPS dips/micro stuttering for example (especially in crowded major cities in Dragonflight in WoW). But now, I've not had one stutter in any of my games, and raiding in WoW feels great for the first time in god knows how long lol. It's just a great setup for 1440p with a touch of 4K thrown in for good measure. More than happy, and like the above poster said I'm pretty set for the next few years with no real need for an upgrade
I went from RX 6700 10GB to the 4070 Super and i can tell you the performance jump is more than double. Not to mention that DLSS is significantly superior to FSR.
As it should lol. Newer, more vram, & more expensive. The 4070 super was really the only Solid card besides the 4090 for this generation of NVID. I’m a Nvidia Fan boy & AMD is shitting all over them with almost every card for price to performance. I used to hate Amd but they stepped their shit up the past 3 years.
I'm perfectly happy with my 7900xtx. I really only play amd titles. Just couldn't justify the need for a 4090. I get great quality and huge frames. I really think it's the best bang for the buck on a higher end GPU honestly.
Bought 4080 Super Founders, it's still held in customs, I suppose that the people working there are just freaked like: "What in a hell is this thing?!" 🤣
I recently got a 4070 super founders edition, and that is the best bang for your “overpriced” buck. It really is an awesome little gpu and works great at 1440p with all settings at the highest including raytracing, and even does okay at 4k with some games as well with the help of dlss and frame gen of course.
I had been using a 9th gen cpu, paired with a 1660ti for YEARS. Recently came across a great deal on a i7-13700k and a 4060. I know the 4060 gets some hate, but man if you're upgrading from some of those older gen GPUs, it's a great little card
@@MrAnimescrazy it really is. An it was quite affordable too. Obviously the dlss and rtx stuff is great, but it has surprising performance even without it. Draws little power, puts off little heat. I'm actually really impressed considering the sentiment online is that the 4060 and 4060ti are trash. Again, if you're going from the older GPUs, a 4060 is amazing. And it's such a small card too! Can fit in presumably almost any decent case
Generally good advice, had a definite "what i would buy" vibe at all the price points. But then, you jump the shark at the end talking about "my gaming PC". I get you want to make it clear the "money no object" choice is the 4090, but that cost you what, £0? Could have at least been up front about it and said if you realistically would have bought one if you weren't a reviewer getting samples.
Bro', You're a riot. You keep so lighthearted and silly that you are a pleasure to watch while delivering the info we're looking for. Why not add some humour and not be so dry. I own the Red Devil Limited Edition RX 7800 XT and I love this card, it's just amazing for the money. Great job and keep it comin'✌😎
That is a very weird upgrade. In some cases it’s more of a downgrade aside from rasterization performance. 3090ti has superior raytracing and DLSS is better than FSR.
@ZackSNetwork not really...that's the short version....long version....have 2 pcs....13700k/4080 for ray tracing titles. 12900/7900xtx for fast paced games. 3090 ti was aio cooled card bought from Amazon 2 years ago (will never buy aio card again). Sold it for 600 bucks and bought 7900xtx used Amazon with 3 year warranty for 770 bucks, way better deal and faster as well without raytracing...and now AMD has fsr3 as well...I'm good.
@MrSoloTron my 3090 ti was a liquid cool version...already had used it for 2 years...and aios don't last that long and you can't change it out or refill it. If it had been an air cooled card...I'd kept it for sure. So looked around..and the 7900xtx is basically an upgraded 3090 ti. Same power draw....more fps...but same raytracing more or less. So sold the 3090 ti for 700...then bought a 7900xtx from Amazon for about 800...so only came out of pocket 100 bucks for the trade and got a card that can last 20 years because of fans. Lol
Loving the channel so much its been a big help too ! Wish I could visit my family in the UK!. Currently upgrading from used parts: Ryzen 3600 and aorus 2080, basic B550 mobo and16gb ram to, Ryzen 5700x was 200$ off, and a mag B550 Max and aorus 2 4070 super as the used 3080 market is ridiculous here 🙄
Great great video as always man, very clear guidance is appreciated and positive attitude is very helpful too. There are a lot of reviews type channels out there who are just grumble grumble.
I overspent on a 4070ti when they came out but its a solid performer at 1440p and has given me over a year of max settings with RT with more to come. Happy but would have preferred around £600 not £800!
I always think about it like this. Could I habe waited and bought something similar, but at a better price? Sure. (The answer is always sure) Say, a 4070 super, then ocing it. But, you wouldn't have had a gpu for a year. Also, the ti is better than the super (though, not worth the price difference, new, right now.) But, if the ti was say, 675-700, it would be right in line with price/performance. The difference is what? 50-150 bucks at most? So, if you rented that card...just to be able to play for a year...would you pay the difference? Lets say, worst case, it lost 150 buvks in value. Thats like...11 bucks per month. Would you pay 11 bucks a month to play games with awesome graphics while waiting on your upgrade? Youd probably pay more. Say 20 or 25 a month. If so, good purchase. End of story. 😂
So I used (I still 'like' videos that pop up for the algorithms) to watch hours of your content when looking for my new PC specs. I return to you again due to my graphics card committing die. Thanks again for your quick whit and expert assistance in this matter 😁
moved from AMD 6900XT to Nvidia 4070 TI Super and wow what an amazing experience. FPS huge improvement. I say that as an AMD fan. Will likely get a 4080 Super for other PC now.
@@flipperzero9662 There's a comment below where someone said they upgraded from a last gen Nvidia card to a current AMD card and how great their experience is but you won't comment the same thing because the brands are reversed 🤷 the fact you cherry picked this guys comment says it all 😂
I just finished building my first PC about a month ago. i got a 3060 with an i5-12400f and I'm super impressed with my choices. It runs all my games at max settings at 1080p flawlessly and I couldn't be more happy.
Just received my gigabyte 4080 super gaming OC which is huge and magnificent. Im starting to build tomorrow, full setup is : -AMD 7800x3D (409€)/ -Monitor DELL G2724 (255€)/ -PSU MSI A750GF (100€)/ Tower PC Corsair 4000D (100€/ -SSD Samsung 980 Pro 1To (100€)/ -Corsair Vengeance DDR 5 32GB 6000MT/s (130€)/ -MSI Mag B650 Tomahawk WiFi (228€)/ -Thermalight phantom spirit 120SE (40€) -4080 Super Gaming OC (1186€)
idk these rumours about the 50 series are sounding pretty juicy, hopefully theres actually some truth to them so waiting to upgrade will definitley be worth it
Last year I went all out with my first all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the white phanteks nv7 case. The pc is a beast and I clean it once a month. I play at native 2k or native 4k on high settings with or without ray tracing depending on the game. I play on my lg c1 65 inch 4k oled tv so the frames are limited to 120 but this is good enough for me.
@@metalface_villainthat’s easily over 4K. I have a similar set up. Rtx 4090 strix oc 7800x3d 7200 cl34 1.4v oc’d to 7400 same primary & secondary timings. Monitor - msi 360hz monitor Case - Nzxt h5flow ( debating if I should buy a vertical mount or a new case with 3 more fans ) Mobo - b650 aorus elite ax ice
@@metalface_villain yea bro to build the best rig cost a lot /: My overall build cost minus the keyboard & mouse was around 4.1k only because I got the cpu & gpu for less money then what it’s actually going for. Retail on the gpu is around 2.3k or more but I got it for 1.7 with receipt, unused warranty, & the 12vhpwr cable. The ring would have been nice to have but I Don’t really care for it lol. my cpu retails for around 430 but I got it for 370 The ram rn is 240 but I payed 140. And for the monitor it retails for 300 but I got it for 110 😭 ( used but still new )
@metalface_villain the total was almost or over 5,000 dollars the TV was on sale at best buy but I forgot exactly how much. I think the tv was 1,500 to 1,700. The pc build was 3,250 with taxes and shipping. I bought all of the parts from Amazon last year.
Raytracing is a must have if you're developing game assets like me. Software like Marmoset do not not allow you to bake game maps without Raytracing. Also if you are making some real-time 3D render animations, instead of waiting hours to get a frame, you'll go well with Raytracing 1000x faster.
I have watched all your content for the last year or so.. and will continue to do so, regardless. Maybe Im mistaken, but I notice you tend to steer away from controversy sometimes...I understand this video is aimed more towards simplicity.. but when you make a.strong recommendation for the 4090, do you not have a responsibility to mention, at least in passing, about the demonstratively flawed design of the 4090, and the fact that an inexcusably large proportion of those cards, melt themselves down into a slag (connector design flaw), during normal usage. Yes the 4090 is the "best" card, but using one, is a very stressful experience...as you have to constantly check it's not about to self destruct. Appreciate your work :)
What controversy? maybe 0.01% had that issue, having a 4090 I assure you is no stress. if you are unlucky and the connector melts they give you a new card, like any other electronics. Amd had defective coolers and other issues too, that said overspending for hardware that get depreciated that fast ( expect my card to have same fps like a 600$ 5070 in less than a year) was something I will not repeat, but I ll worry about it in 6 years or even 8 years from now.
I still remember ATI RADEON HD 2900 XT ,WOW THAT WAS A HELL OF A GRAPHIC CARD ,IT COUOD RUN CRYSIS ON FULL HD LIKE EATING POPCORN WOW BEAUTIFUL old days ,OLD IS GOLD
Which RTX 4090 is the best to get, I know you more than likely say price is top, but I want one that stays cools without to much over heating, and not to much noise, so which one is the best to purchase in your opinion?
For viewers wanting more context around ray tracing: Some games have built in settings and system to render the game with Rasterized or Ray Tracing. Some games are developed completely using lighting software that is built around Ray Tracing. All card brands are capable of Ray Tracing. The biggest thing when deciding about ray tracing, if it affects your buying process, is what games you play. For example, I play a lot of stuff like Dayz, Arma, Tarkov, And early access shooters using unreal engine 4 and 5 with lumen lighting. Not all of the games mentioned handle ray tracing the same. Just know your games and how they work. A great majority of the games I want to play in the near future might have ray tracing baked into some of the lighting, and may be unoptimized in the first place. However, the RT performance with 16GB AMD cards at the $500 price range at 1440p is fine for most games, as well as the niche ones I want to play. TLDR: If you’re worried about RT performance, save your money 6 months longer and build a top notch 4k build with a rtx4090. That’s where you’ll see your money well spent on new tech. Otherwise, cost per frame, tailored to your budget, shooting for 100fps; is the most solid way to decide on a long lasting gaming build.
Agree with the higher budget takes.. recently swapped my 7900xtx for a 4080 super, similar performance but the driver stability on the AMD card was just unacceptable for me for a 1k gpu, getting ray tracing/dlss/better encoder etc as well as the more stable drivers just made it such a better choice, even though I really wanted to back AMD due to the original value proposition Edit - also, would you recommend a 1440p or 4k monitor for a 4080 super system?
i'm generally a fan of 1440p but that's mostly due to cost/performance and image quality for the monitor, gpu and all other parts of the build but since you already got a 4080 super i'd say you should go for a 4k, especially since nvidia has good upscaling and upscaling for 4k looks better than upscaling for lower resolutions, that's ofc if you can afford getting a decent 4k monitor, which are a little expensive. 4k will also be better if you use ur pc for other stuff other than gaming. i can't recommend you any 4k monitors since i have only done research and more budget 1440p ones since i'm broke xD but i'm sure you can figure it out by looking at youtube reviews and rankings. the only tip that i got is to go for 28 to 34 inches cuz if you go below that you are wasting a lot of money for nothing.
Hailing from L.A. California, U.S. Thanks for your videos, great job. Your question about having features grayed out after spending so much on a card hit a cord with me. I’m like …. yeah, even if I don’t use the feature, I would want it available to me should I want to in the future.
You should do a rgb and non rgb 120mm and 140mm fan video like this. It would be useful and get a lot of views. And or combine it with another best case videos and affiliate link everything.
I was in a very difficult situation… spend £300ish more money on 4070Ti Super or stick with 7800XT option… there is a bit of me that wishes I had stretched the budget that little bit more… but I’m not gonna be unhappy with the 7800XT… although I would have loved to have chosen 4070Ti Super lol
@OmarChouikha sorry I didn't get to this sooner. It's pretty good if you ask me. The reason why is because you get a fair bit of versatility out of it. It has 16gb of vram, can undervolt down to using 185w max, and can even overclock to be like a pseudo 6800xt class gpu. In my opinion it's the best midrange option for versatility and future proofing right now unless you want av1 and potentially antilag+ (when amd figures that out) or need features like rt and uspacling (both of which can be argued to not be that important as selling points yet). Hope this helps!
I also have an rtx 4090 in my rig, I'm looking forward to picking up the new alienware 4k 240hz qd-oled at the end of this month, my eyes aren't ready for the beauty
Been enjoying my 4060. Just ordered a 7800x3d to pair with it. Im using a a 65 in 60 hz tv as my monitor and currently only playing fallout 76 so hopefully this combo works for a while
Hi , I am looking to upgrade my GPU, but I am stuck on pairing it with the CPU. I have a i8 8800k bought abou 7 years ago, and from what I have read recent GPU models could be held back in the CPU is a bit older. Will and rtx 30 series pear well with my CPU? Was looking at rtx 3070, 3060ti. Even at a 4046 but not sure of that . Appreciate a little help here Great vid btw.
My 7 year old 2080Ti 11GB Blows away the 4060Ti 8GB and 3070 8GB still to this day, its a beast for less in the used market. Nvidia really did a sleezy thang with the 4060 series, even the 3060 12GB beats the 4060 8GB! lol
here is what games i will play: minecraft (java&bedrock) mech arena prodigy halo infinite asphalt legends 9 maybe forza horizon 5 what card should i get?
I currently still getting solid use out of my GTX 1080 ti, and it seems silly to move up to 4090 with an entire new generation right around the corner. So ive decided to just upgrade everything else besides the GPU for now. So im about to jump up to a 7950X3D from a R7 2700X. That should net me 20-30 FPS boots while I wait for the 5090 to drop. Gonna upgrade the motherboard and RAM, case etc also.
I am saving up for my new PC, and I will be buying the parts slowly but i had a question, do you think i should wait for the RTX 50 series or just go with the RTX 4090?
If the last thing you are gonna buy is the graphics card, then it might be worth holding out and waiting for the release of the 50 series before pulling the trigger
It also depends on the budget for your gpu if you can get a 4090 for less then 2,000 and maybe closer to msrp then go with that but if you want to wait and see for the 5090 then you can but also think that the 5090 will be hard to get and we don't know when it will release.
@@MrAnimescrazy Uhmmm good point, well i have a budget of around $4000+, higher wouldn't be an issue too but depending on some leaks i've seen they might announce the 5090 around the end of this year and if they release it like mid next year that would be perfect too, but you're right, getting it at launch would be a pain in the ass. This has been helpful thanks a lot friend, this community is really nice, have a good day.
Those 2 stacked gpu's shaking on your desk got me anxious. I'm running a 13900k 4090 for almost year now. It's nice to not compromise anything on 4k and 3800x1600. Coming from the 5700xt,2080 super,6700xt and 3080ti and 9900k, 5800x, 5800x3d. It's my main and only hobby so i can justify for it.
14:34 Hi Marcus! Thanks for the content - as always great stuff! Just looking at your FPS chart comparison, on what do you base these Vargas’s (no specific game titles are mentioned). Earlier in video it showed Nvidia cards such as even RTX 4070 super just slayed AMD (even the 7900 XTX), on CyberPunk and other titles. But here the story shows a far more similar competition between them both. Would love to understand how to interpret this.
Nvidia with Frame Gen excels in RT titles, whereas AMD performs as good / better in a lot of multiplayer titles with the tech turned off, so it depends what ypu play and how you play it
Depends on what you want to do with it. If you just play games, the 7900xt is slightly to significantly faster in a lot of games with RT off. The 4070ti super pulls ahead with RT on. Streaming could be an issue. If you stream on twitch, the 4070 will work better. The AMD encoder is useless, so you will have to use x264. I went from a 970 to a 7800xt, and I used to stream at 1080p 60fps just fine. Now if I do that using x264, my cpu runs at like 80 degrees which I dont like, so Ive had to drop down to 720p. TH-cam supports the av1 encoder, so that should work better. With content creation, the 4070 may work better, especially with adobe products. TL;DR Rasterized gaming: 7900xt Raytraced Gaming, streaming, or content creation: 4070ti super.
Upgrade if it is struggling to run the games you are currently playing. You also might be able to get some pretty good deals on an upgrade this holiday season.
If you don’t care about Raytracing and Nvidia features it’s an amazing GPU. I would personally prefer the 4080 Super however 24gbs of vram is interesting.
I'm curious as to why you didn't mention the RX 6700/6750 XT. I just built my second PC with a $1200 budget and it is definitely a good card at the moment.
Currently awaiting my RAM to be delivered but managed to get a 4080 for less than the Super and will be joining the 7800X3D and Arctic 3 280 cooler in the Montech King 95 pro case
@@ZackSNetwork thank you. I wasn't planning on doing 4K by the time I bought the monitor, so the specs might be overkill, but I'm happy with just at 1440p
Is my gpu good or bad? I plan on getting a 4060 ti mind you I only playing 1080p but I want to run max settings at the highest fps possible so would a 4060 ti be good?
Just a question for game developers if there are any in here. Do yall just favor one brand over another? In some games Nvidia does better while in other games it would be AMD. Is it more complicated to implement both DLSS AND FSR into your coding? If so, is the overall decision to choose one over the other determined by current market sales? Sorry just genuinely trying to understand the logic behind the creation of next gen games.
Just built my first PC last week. Went for a 7800xt with a 7800x3d, also. Extremely happy with it so far. Playing Starfield with everything maxed at 1440p and it runs like a dream.
have you had any driver issues I have been looking at this card
Im building my pc this weekend, i got the 7800x3d and was going to pair with 7800xt or the 7900gre but ended up buying a 4080 super, a little nervous about building but thanks to pc centric i have a guide 😁
@@loftie8387that is a nice high end build
@@therandyace No issues at all so far. Everything runs well
@loftie8387 what's the difference with the "gre" cards? Seen them on sale for pretty good price.
I'm doing unholy amounts of research over the best pc components available after saving for years for my first computer build knowing full well I will only play pixel indie rpgs on it.
Lmaoo same, did u end up getting any parts yet? If so what did you go with?
Update please 🥺
I have the Gigabyte 7800xt, play at 1440p and have 0 complaints. 16 GB VRAM, power efficient, and this thing stays nice and cool under load. For 500$, you can't beat it. Sure FSR may not be as good as DLSS, and Ray Tracing is iffy, but I'd take that extra VRAM, especially looking forward over the next few years.
i have sapphire pulse very good gpu
check my comment and thanks!!
If you play at 1440p, 12gb doesn't really matter. Just sayin.
That's a 4k problem.
Edit: I had the choice and went with a 4070super. Raw perf, the 7900 is better. But dlss in single player games, and bam you rip the 7900 to shreds.
Multiplayer games are reduced in spec so everyone can play them anyway. No real upside.
Also, the 7900 is 700, and at that point, might as well consider the ti super....and then, you might as well get the 4080 super.
The 4070 super is the king in its price range for a reason. And if you were going for 4k, youd buy the 4080.
The argument you (and lots of computer junkies, not just you) present doesn't actually make sense.
Gamers, on average, buy a computer, then upgrade in 5 years anyway. The whole "futureproofing," thing is silly.
If you "futureproofed," last gen and spent 12-1500 (or more) and got the 3090, a 600 dollar card does the same thing next generation.
🤷♂️
Buy for now. Cross the next bridge when you get there, instead of worrying about its construction before you've even seen it.
Actually, there is an exception. And it's at the very low end. If you can only afford a low tier proc, it might be worth looking into your upgrade in say, the next 6 months or a year. You can buy, then sell when you upgrade. And you won't lose much on the low end. In that case, if you like amd and can swing it, get the best chip that supports your gpu while taking socket in mind. But honestly, this is and extremely small portion of the population as people building budget pcs are probably looking at used components anyway, which...is probably gonna yeild better results.
I'm currently building a PC, and I'm struggling to pick parts. This really helped.
On a side note, the two GPUs on the left wobbling every time he touched the table gave me so much anxiety.
Why do I like this guy so much? Gonna my build my first PC this year, thank you!
Same. I'm looking to get the RTX 4090
@@whyguitarguy1 Nice! I built mine a couple of months ago with an RTX 4080S and I couldn't be happier!
I kinda like his random sense of humor
You’re one of the few PC channels that I actually enjoy watching and listening too. thank you centric. 👍
Recently finished my new gaming rig, and paired a 7800 XT with 7800X3D. Zero regrets with that card, it's absolutely perfect for the games I play (Baldurs Gate 3, WoW, Overwatch for example) and am able to play everything maxed out. No regrets with that card whatsoever-great value
well, tbf, they aren't terribly demanding games. Regardless that combo will last you for quite a few years I think!
WoW is pretty demanding in raid size groups even at low settings. My 6700k, gtx 980 ti starting to struggle with WoW - useful to know amd works with wow and with max. Speccing a new pc now and was wondering about amd.
@@danielbarnett5764 You have two options with amd, really, either get an AM4 mother board, DDR4 Ram and get the 5800x3D processor. Or just go full AM5 with DDR5 ram and get the 7800x3d.
Both processors dominate in gaming due to the size of the cache. If you are more on a budget go for the AM4, AM5 if you don't mind spending extra.
Now, the real weight will be that 980ti. Perhaps time to upgrade? 6700xt is dynamite for 1080p/1440p gaming.
Also! Get a thermal peerless assassin 120 SE cpu cooler, 30 dollars and one of the best air coolers you can get.
I bet that’s a very good build with excellent performance!!
@@Mr.Swolo90Honestly, the entire rig feels buttery smooth now. In my previous set up I used to get a lot of FPS dips/micro stuttering for example (especially in crowded major cities in Dragonflight in WoW). But now, I've not had one stutter in any of my games, and raiding in WoW feels great for the first time in god knows how long lol. It's just a great setup for 1440p with a touch of 4K thrown in for good measure. More than happy, and like the above poster said I'm pretty set for the next few years with no real need for an upgrade
I went from RX 6700 10GB to the 4070 Super and i can tell you the performance jump is more than double. Not to mention that DLSS is significantly superior to FSR.
Just sold my 6700 10gb and I'm planning to buy the same. No time for gaming so I'm holding. Enjoy your upgrade
double the price too
@@MukundKannanI mean you get what you pay for at least
As it should lol. Newer, more vram, & more expensive. The 4070 super was really the only Solid card besides the 4090 for this generation of NVID. I’m a Nvidia Fan boy & AMD is shitting all over them with almost every card for price to performance. I used to hate Amd but they stepped their shit up the past 3 years.
I still have a 1070 I remember when the 1060 10700 and 1080 were all the rave like 10 years ago
I'm perfectly happy with my 7900xtx. I really only play amd titles. Just couldn't justify the need for a 4090. I get great quality and huge frames. I really think it's the best bang for the buck on a higher end GPU honestly.
Bought 4080 Super Founders, it's still held in customs, I suppose that the people working there are just freaked like: "What in a hell is this thing?!" 🤣
What country?
@@howtorawk Armenia
@@karzonbrown3650 ah, Good luck with customs
This came at the perfect time for me, I’m about to do my first build!
Me too. Now all i need is the money 😊
@@poljackph the hard part lol! I’m picking some stuff up while it’s on sale.
I usually buy mid range components and its amazing how just 2 years can render it dated. Pc's move on very quickly
Where you getting it bro as I am going to be building one soon @@Blitz-N-Pieces
dam in this economy???
I recently got a 4070 super founders edition, and that is the best bang for your “overpriced” buck.
It really is an awesome little gpu and works great at 1440p with all settings at the highest including raytracing, and even does okay at 4k with some games as well with the help of dlss and frame gen of course.
I had been using a 9th gen cpu, paired with a 1660ti for YEARS.
Recently came across a great deal on a i7-13700k and a 4060. I know the 4060 gets some hate, but man if you're upgrading from some of those older gen GPUs, it's a great little card
@@d8l835 4060 is great on power consumption too.
@d8l835 that is a huge upgrade.
4070 super is great
@@MrAnimescrazy it really is. An it was quite affordable too. Obviously the dlss and rtx stuff is great, but it has surprising performance even without it. Draws little power, puts off little heat. I'm actually really impressed considering the sentiment online is that the 4060 and 4060ti are trash. Again, if you're going from the older GPUs, a 4060 is amazing. And it's such a small card too! Can fit in presumably almost any decent case
Generally good advice, had a definite "what i would buy" vibe at all the price points.
But then, you jump the shark at the end talking about "my gaming PC". I get you want to make it clear the "money no object" choice is the 4090, but that cost you what, £0? Could have at least been up front about it and said if you realistically would have bought one if you weren't a reviewer getting samples.
As someone in the UK, I do appreciate a shop comparison :D
Ray tracing was regarded as the "next big thing" in the mid-90s, actually, when CAD and gaming cards first started merging into cards for home PCs. :P
Bro', You're a riot. You keep so lighthearted and silly that you are a pleasure to watch while delivering the info we're looking for. Why not add some humour and not be so dry. I own the Red Devil Limited Edition RX 7800 XT and I love this card, it's just amazing for the money. Great job and keep it comin'✌😎
I’m glad you showed that white PC again. That is so fire!! There’s a video of you building it?
Went from a 3090 ti to 7900xtx..no complaints yet..very good card and happy with it at 1440p ultrawide.
That is a very weird upgrade. In some cases it’s more of a downgrade aside from rasterization performance. 3090ti has superior raytracing and DLSS is better than FSR.
@ZackSNetwork not really...that's the short version....long version....have 2 pcs....13700k/4080 for ray tracing titles. 12900/7900xtx for fast paced games. 3090 ti was aio cooled card bought from Amazon 2 years ago (will never buy aio card again). Sold it for 600 bucks and bought 7900xtx used Amazon with 3 year warranty for 770 bucks, way better deal and faster as well without raytracing...and now AMD has fsr3 as well...I'm good.
@@ZackSNetwork 3090ti is in no way better than a 7900 xtx... lol.
What was it that made you want to upgrade from a 3090ti?
@MrSoloTron my 3090 ti was a liquid cool version...already had used it for 2 years...and aios don't last that long and you can't change it out or refill it. If it had been an air cooled card...I'd kept it for sure. So looked around..and the 7900xtx is basically an upgraded 3090 ti. Same power draw....more fps...but same raytracing more or less. So sold the 3090 ti for 700...then bought a 7900xtx from Amazon for about 800...so only came out of pocket 100 bucks for the trade and got a card that can last 20 years because of fans. Lol
Loving the channel so much its been a big help too ! Wish I could visit my family in the UK!.
Currently upgrading from used parts:
Ryzen 3600 and aorus 2080, basic B550 mobo and16gb ram to,
Ryzen 5700x was 200$ off, and a mag B550 Max and aorus 2
4070 super as the used 3080 market is ridiculous here 🙄
Great great video as always man, very clear guidance is appreciated and positive attitude is very helpful too. There are a lot of reviews type channels out there who are just grumble grumble.
I overspent on a 4070ti when they came out but its a solid performer at 1440p and has given me over a year of max settings with RT with more to come. Happy but would have preferred around £600 not £800!
I always think about it like this.
Could I habe waited and bought something similar, but at a better price? Sure. (The answer is always sure)
Say, a 4070 super, then ocing it.
But, you wouldn't have had a gpu for a year. Also, the ti is better than the super (though, not worth the price difference, new, right now.)
But, if the ti was say, 675-700, it would be right in line with price/performance. The difference is what? 50-150 bucks at most?
So, if you rented that card...just to be able to play for a year...would you pay the difference?
Lets say, worst case, it lost 150 buvks in value. Thats like...11 bucks per month.
Would you pay 11 bucks a month to play games with awesome graphics while waiting on your upgrade? Youd probably pay more. Say 20 or 25 a month.
If so, good purchase. End of story. 😂
Will sub for the apple crumble recipe. Where's it at Marcus?
So I used (I still 'like' videos that pop up for the algorithms) to watch hours of your content when looking for my new PC specs. I return to you again due to my graphics card committing die. Thanks again for your quick whit and expert assistance in this matter 😁
Glad to hit you up with the assist
moved from AMD 6900XT to Nvidia 4070 TI Super and wow what an amazing experience. FPS huge improvement. I say that as an AMD fan. Will likely get a 4080 Super for other PC now.
Wild that you would jump up a generation and compare your experience to the prior generation
@@flipperzero9662 There's a comment below where someone said they upgraded from a last gen Nvidia card to a current AMD card and how great their experience is but you won't comment the same thing because the brands are reversed 🤷 the fact you cherry picked this guys comment says it all 😂
@@flipperzero9662 You realise the 6900XT performs on par with 7800XT right?
Same. I went from a clump of dirt to a 4090 and my FPS went up 30%
Excellent video! Keep up the good work!
Your ads always remind me of telescoping that was on from midnight or something
The first segment answered my question of "why am I seeing all these different bands when it's just amd and nvidia mainly?"
Thanks for that!
I'm so excited, I just order my new gamign pc with a Nvidia 4090. Thank you for your quality videos!
There goes this months rent 😂
@@bluecollarwatches7048 Fortunately, I don't pay rent.
@bodybagz_1 yeah im real poor living in moms basement
3:10 the anxiety i got from those graphics cards wobbling 🤣
oh my god they wobble the whole video
This made me actually rethink my thinking about nvidia
Thank you
I just finished building my first PC about a month ago. i got a 3060 with an i5-12400f and I'm super impressed with my choices. It runs all my games at max settings at 1080p flawlessly and I couldn't be more happy.
Awesome video👍👍
4090 it is😃👍 I am picking one tomorrow at my local Microcenter.
Just received my gigabyte 4080 super gaming OC which is huge and magnificent.
Im starting to build tomorrow, full setup is :
-AMD 7800x3D (409€)/
-Monitor DELL G2724 (255€)/
-PSU MSI A750GF (100€)/
Tower PC Corsair 4000D (100€/
-SSD Samsung 980 Pro 1To (100€)/
-Corsair Vengeance DDR 5 32GB 6000MT/s (130€)/
-MSI Mag B650 Tomahawk WiFi (228€)/
-Thermalight phantom spirit 120SE (40€)
-4080 Super Gaming OC (1186€)
How’s the 4080 going so far dude?
the graphics cards shaking on the table, my hearth i cant... x.x
idk these rumours about the 50 series are sounding pretty juicy, hopefully theres actually some truth to them so waiting to upgrade will definitley be worth it
Last year I went all out with my first all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the white phanteks nv7 case. The pc is a beast and I clean it once a month. I play at native 2k or native 4k on high settings with or without ray tracing depending on the game. I play on my lg c1 65 inch 4k oled tv so the frames are limited to 120 but this is good enough for me.
how much did the complete build including the monitor cost?
@@metalface_villainthat’s easily over 4K. I have a similar set up.
Rtx 4090 strix oc
7800x3d
7200 cl34 1.4v oc’d to 7400 same primary & secondary timings.
Monitor - msi 360hz monitor
Case - Nzxt h5flow ( debating if I should buy a vertical mount or a new case with 3 more fans )
Mobo - b650 aorus elite ax ice
@@silfrido1768 fuck me, that's almost half a year worth of salary in my country xD
@@metalface_villain yea bro to build the best rig cost a lot /:
My overall build cost minus the keyboard & mouse was around 4.1k only because I got the cpu & gpu for less money then what it’s actually going for.
Retail on the gpu is around 2.3k or more but I got it for 1.7 with receipt, unused warranty, & the 12vhpwr cable.
The ring would have been nice to have but I Don’t really care for it lol.
my cpu retails for around 430 but I got it for 370
The ram rn is 240 but I payed 140.
And for the monitor it retails for 300 but I got it for 110 😭 ( used but still new )
@metalface_villain the total was almost or over 5,000 dollars the TV was on sale at best buy but I forgot exactly how much. I think the tv was 1,500 to 1,700. The pc build was 3,250 with taxes and shipping. I bought all of the parts from Amazon last year.
PC Centric, very good video as always, what are your thoughts on the RX 7900 GRE?
Raytracing is a must have if you're developing game assets like me. Software like Marmoset do not not allow you to bake game maps without Raytracing. Also if you are making some real-time 3D render animations, instead of waiting hours to get a frame, you'll go well with Raytracing 1000x faster.
Do you think it is better to wait for the new cards to release before dropping 1k on the current ones if I want to upgrade?
Luckily I don’t care about raytracing which is why I built my rig with a 7800x3d and a 7900XTX
I have watched all your content for the last year or so.. and will continue to do so, regardless. Maybe Im mistaken, but I notice you tend to steer away from controversy sometimes...I understand this video is aimed more towards simplicity.. but when you make a.strong recommendation for the 4090, do you not have a responsibility to mention, at least in passing, about the demonstratively flawed design of the 4090, and the fact that an inexcusably large proportion of those cards, melt themselves down into a slag (connector design flaw), during normal usage. Yes the 4090 is the "best" card, but using one, is a very stressful experience...as you have to constantly check it's not about to self destruct. Appreciate your work :)
What controversy? maybe 0.01% had that issue, having a 4090 I assure you is no stress. if you are unlucky and the connector melts they give you a new card, like any other electronics. Amd had defective coolers and other issues too, that said overspending for hardware that get depreciated that fast ( expect my card to have same fps like a 600$ 5070 in less than a year) was something I will not repeat, but I ll worry about it in 6 years or even 8 years from now.
I still remember ATI RADEON HD 2900 XT ,WOW THAT WAS A HELL OF A GRAPHIC CARD ,IT COUOD RUN CRYSIS ON FULL HD LIKE EATING POPCORN WOW BEAUTIFUL old days ,OLD IS GOLD
Which RTX 4090 is the best to get, I know you more than likely say price is top, but I want one that stays cools without to much over heating, and not to much noise, so which one is the best to purchase in your opinion?
Love the Kurzgesagt posters in the background :D
I love this but will you be doing another one of these videos in 2025? the thumbnail was on point lol
For viewers wanting more context around ray tracing:
Some games have built in settings and system to render the game with Rasterized or Ray Tracing. Some games are developed completely using lighting software that is built around Ray Tracing. All card brands are capable of Ray Tracing.
The biggest thing when deciding about ray tracing, if it affects your buying process, is what games you play. For example, I play a lot of stuff like Dayz, Arma, Tarkov, And early access shooters using unreal engine 4 and 5 with lumen lighting. Not all of the games mentioned handle ray tracing the same. Just know your games and how they work. A great majority of the games I want to play in the near future might have ray tracing baked into some of the lighting, and may be unoptimized in the first place. However, the RT performance with 16GB AMD cards at the $500 price range at 1440p is fine for most games, as well as the niche ones I want to play.
TLDR: If you’re worried about RT performance, save your money 6 months longer and build a top notch 4k build with a rtx4090. That’s where you’ll see your money well spent on new tech. Otherwise, cost per frame, tailored to your budget, shooting for 100fps; is the most solid way to decide on a long lasting gaming build.
I’ve been watching your video and I just wanted to say thank you 😊
Love my 7900XT. Destroys every game I've thrown at it. Cyberpunk, max settings/1440p at 310 fps average.
Agree with the higher budget takes.. recently swapped my 7900xtx for a 4080 super, similar performance but the driver stability on the AMD card was just unacceptable for me for a 1k gpu, getting ray tracing/dlss/better encoder etc as well as the more stable drivers just made it such a better choice, even though I really wanted to back AMD due to the original value proposition
Edit - also, would you recommend a 1440p or 4k monitor for a 4080 super system?
i'm generally a fan of 1440p but that's mostly due to cost/performance and image quality for the monitor, gpu and all other parts of the build but since you already got a 4080 super i'd say you should go for a 4k, especially since nvidia has good upscaling and upscaling for 4k looks better than upscaling for lower resolutions, that's ofc if you can afford getting a decent 4k monitor, which are a little expensive. 4k will also be better if you use ur pc for other stuff other than gaming.
i can't recommend you any 4k monitors since i have only done research and more budget 1440p ones since i'm broke xD but i'm sure you can figure it out by looking at youtube reviews and rankings. the only tip that i got is to go for 28 to 34 inches cuz if you go below that you are wasting a lot of money for nothing.
Hailing from L.A. California, U.S. Thanks for your videos, great job. Your question about having features grayed out after spending so much on a card hit a cord with me. I’m like …. yeah, even if I don’t use the feature, I would want it available to me should I want to in the future.
Bought a 4080 super. No regrets,
Thanks! Your video covered everything I wanted to know :)
You should do a rgb and non rgb 120mm and 140mm fan video like this. It would be useful and get a lot of views. And or combine it with another best case videos and affiliate link everything.
Too late bro. Already brought 4070ti super 😭
Same man, same…. 😢
Today my 4070 tis just arrived 😂
I was in a very difficult situation… spend £300ish more money on 4070Ti Super or stick with 7800XT option… there is a bit of me that wishes I had stretched the budget that little bit more… but I’m not gonna be unhappy with the 7800XT… although I would have loved to have chosen 4070Ti Super lol
@@ProfShikari always buy best you can but dont wait too long
I got a 4070 ti super and am very happy with it. No regrets.
That shirt looks great on you 👍
this is the only guy i listen to tbb
Great video. From Bangladesh.
Subbed after 'Apple Crumble'
Might want to throw the 6800 on this list too. Its basically a 16gb 7700xt for less money.
i came here looking for it since i just bought it brand new for 377€
Is it really that good?
@OmarChouikha sorry I didn't get to this sooner. It's pretty good if you ask me. The reason why is because you get a fair bit of versatility out of it. It has 16gb of vram, can undervolt down to using 185w max, and can even overclock to be like a pseudo 6800xt class gpu. In my opinion it's the best midrange option for versatility and future proofing right now unless you want av1 and potentially antilag+ (when amd figures that out) or need features like rt and uspacling (both of which can be argued to not be that important as selling points yet). Hope this helps!
Went amd for the first time and bought a 7800xt, got nothing but constant crashes so sent it back and got a 4070 super, no more crashing since
Great video. Thank you
I just build a 4080 super with a 7800x3d and I’m extremely happy with it
Centric which of only one from your builds you recommend up to 4000 Euros? I'd love to hear from you :)
i use both an rtx 3060 12gb and an intel arc a580 both are great... ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS WATER IS NOT WET!
I got a 4080 super. runs everything so smoothly
I'm a Morrisons kinda guy myself but sometimes I treat myself to Iceland.
I also have an rtx 4090 in my rig, I'm looking forward to picking up the new alienware 4k 240hz qd-oled at the end of this month, my eyes aren't ready for the beauty
Been enjoying my 4060. Just ordered a 7800x3d to pair with it. Im using a a 65 in 60 hz tv as my monitor and currently only playing fallout 76 so hopefully this combo works for a while
Hi , I am looking to upgrade my GPU, but I am stuck on pairing it with the CPU.
I have a i8 8800k bought abou 7 years ago, and from what I have
read recent GPU models could be held back in the CPU is a bit older. Will and rtx 30 series pear well with my CPU? Was looking at rtx 3070, 3060ti. Even at a 4046 but not sure of that .
Appreciate a little help here
Great vid btw.
Best for 1080? Graphics card. Planning to team it with I5 13600kf.
My 7 year old 2080Ti 11GB Blows away the 4060Ti 8GB and 3070 8GB still to this day, its a beast for less in the used market. Nvidia really did a sleezy thang with the 4060 series, even the 3060 12GB beats the 4060 8GB! lol
Thank you, this made sense.
I have 6700xt should i upgrade to 7800xt or 7900 xt
Specs
Cpu i9 12900k
Mobo arous master z690
64 gb ddr5
here is what games i will play:
minecraft (java&bedrock)
mech arena
prodigy
halo infinite
asphalt legends 9
maybe forza horizon 5
what card should i get?
I currently still getting solid use out of my GTX 1080 ti, and it seems silly to move up to 4090 with an entire new generation right around the corner. So ive decided to just upgrade everything else besides the GPU for now. So im about to jump up to a 7950X3D from a R7 2700X. That should net me 20-30 FPS boots while I wait for the 5090 to drop. Gonna upgrade the motherboard and RAM, case etc also.
What is a good gpu to buy to pair with ryzen 9 5950x ??
Great vid thanks for all the info. I'd love to see a build based around the 7800xt! I'm thinking of building my new rig with it after seeing this vid.
I am saving up for my new PC, and I will be buying the parts slowly but i had a question, do you think i should wait for the RTX 50 series or just go with the RTX 4090?
If the last thing you are gonna buy is the graphics card, then it might be worth holding out and waiting for the release of the 50 series before pulling the trigger
@@ProfShikari Yeh i will be buying it last so you might be right, thanks for the input, have a nice day
@@harshkc5516 you’re welcome my friend :) good luck with the build :D
It also depends on the budget for your gpu if you can get a 4090 for less then 2,000 and maybe closer to msrp then go with that but if you want to wait and see for the 5090 then you can but also think that the 5090 will be hard to get and we don't know when it will release.
@@MrAnimescrazy Uhmmm good point, well i have a budget of around $4000+, higher wouldn't be an issue too but depending on some leaks i've seen they might announce the 5090 around the end of this year and if they release it like mid next year that would be perfect too, but you're right, getting it at launch would be a pain in the ass.
This has been helpful thanks a lot friend, this community is really nice, have a good day.
What is the model of the case in the video? Looks amazing..👍
The big see-through one that looks like a fish tank? I believe it is a Montech KING 95 Pro Mid Tower Case Black
Those 2 stacked gpu's shaking on your desk got me anxious.
I'm running a 13900k 4090 for almost year now. It's nice to not compromise anything on 4k and 3800x1600.
Coming from the 5700xt,2080 super,6700xt and 3080ti and 9900k, 5800x, 5800x3d.
It's my main and only hobby so i can justify for it.
Good video. Just to mention for completeness intel have its own version of dlss in xess and the a770 with 16gb of ram.
What about VR?
Would love to see assetto corsa VR results for AMD vs Nvidia!
14:34 Hi Marcus! Thanks for the content - as always great stuff! Just looking at your FPS chart comparison, on what do you base these Vargas’s (no specific game titles are mentioned). Earlier in video it showed Nvidia cards such as even RTX 4070 super just slayed AMD (even the 7900 XTX), on CyberPunk and other titles. But here the story shows a far more similar competition between them both. Would love to understand how to interpret this.
Nvidia with Frame Gen excels in RT titles, whereas AMD performs as good / better in a lot of multiplayer titles with the tech turned off, so it depends what ypu play and how you play it
I'm upgrading my gpu which would be better 4070 ti super or 7900xt??
Depends on what you want to do with it.
If you just play games, the 7900xt is slightly to significantly faster in a lot of games with RT off. The 4070ti super pulls ahead with RT on.
Streaming could be an issue. If you stream on twitch, the 4070 will work better. The AMD encoder is useless, so you will have to use x264. I went from a 970 to a 7800xt, and I used to stream at 1080p 60fps just fine. Now if I do that using x264, my cpu runs at like 80 degrees which I dont like, so Ive had to drop down to 720p. TH-cam supports the av1 encoder, so that should work better.
With content creation, the 4070 may work better, especially with adobe products.
TL;DR
Rasterized gaming: 7900xt Raytraced Gaming, streaming, or content creation: 4070ti super.
In yalls personal opinion when should i upgrade my rtx 3050 or was it already time for a upgrade??
Upgrade if it is struggling to run the games you are currently playing. You also might be able to get some pretty good deals on an upgrade this holiday season.
7900xtx is my new card. I'm a little sad about the performance with RT, but it's still the best card on the market for the money (IMO).
If you don’t care about Raytracing and Nvidia features it’s an amazing GPU. I would personally prefer the 4080 Super however 24gbs of vram is interesting.
8:52 I got a secondhand heart attack
4080 super is official I just bought one the other week, no regrets here
I hope the sales start soon, the 4090 is $3200 here in Australia…
I'm curious as to why you didn't mention the RX 6700/6750 XT. I just built my second PC with a $1200 budget and it is definitely a good card at the moment.
I just bought an Asus rog strix rtx 4070 ti super and this card is a beast i love it!
Currently awaiting my RAM to be delivered but managed to get a 4080 for less than the Super and will be joining the 7800X3D and Arctic 3 280 cooler in the Montech King 95 pro case
I just recently built my very first PC, pairing a 7900x with a 7900xtx, it kills everything at 2K
1440p you mean, anyway excellent PC.
@@ZackSNetwork thank you. I wasn't planning on doing 4K by the time I bought the monitor, so the specs might be overkill, but I'm happy with just at 1440p
Is my gpu good or bad? I plan on getting a 4060 ti mind you I only playing 1080p but I want to run max settings at the highest fps possible so would a 4060 ti be good?
Thank you!
Just a question for game developers if there are any in here. Do yall just favor one brand over another? In some games Nvidia does better while in other games it would be AMD. Is it more complicated to implement both DLSS AND FSR into your coding? If so, is the overall decision to choose one over the other determined by current market sales? Sorry just genuinely trying to understand the logic behind the creation of next gen games.
Monopoly and copy right 😢
I just build a system with i7-14700kf and RTX 4070 Ti Super for 1440p. I am very happy with my choice
Are top end nvidia cards still having their power connector melting?
Are the AMD GPU’s still having issues running dual monitors?
How many computers do you have in there for showcase in videos?☹