I recommend waiting to buy a GPU, but if you're set on buying in October, here's my top 5 choices: Best GPU around $200 RX 6600: amzn.to/3v5tNja Best GPU around $300 RX 7700XT: amzn.to/3BYcWSx Best GPU around $400 RX 6800 XT amzn.to/3vqbhSS Best GPU around $600 RTX 4070 Super: amzn.to/3xWhEyG Best $800 GPU: RTX 4070 Ti Super: amzn.to/3T0Kfuz Past this point is diminishing returns on "value" and next gen could be out soon, so I don't really recommend. Disclosure: This is not a sponsored post, but I did include affiliate links above so I may earn money on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you.
You know why I like you? You make the video, you explain everything in detail, and yet you also pin a comment with the relevant information for everyone that's not going to watch the entire video. Fair play, thanks for respecting us as audience, that's why I keep coming back even if I'm not that interesting in the topic, it's my way of saying thanks for your work.
Upcoming holiday sales should give you an idea of how desperate they are to sell off old stock. If discounts are anemic, expect disappointing next gen pricing as well.
@@aam1561 What's he saying is if the discounts are slim or not that good, it is a bad omen for the next generation. The 5000 series is probably going to be VERY expensive.
Nobody knows yet but I see the RTX 5070 performing around 10% better than a 4070 Super but costing an extra $100-$150 while drawing more power. I believe NVIDIA will continue to cater to those with deep pockets and AI companies.
Right now, rumors have it at about 4070 ti performance in raster and about 10% more for ray tracing. Its supposed to be between $600 and $700 according to leaks.
I bought 4060 Ti 16GB for 300 euro upgrading from 1660 super a few days ago. Really happy with its performance too. I think the performance gap is the same as from 1060 to 3060 ti
@@maxon1861 Good stuff... If you got a 4060 Ti 16GB for a good price than good for you mate. People will try to sh*t on you for buying a 4060 Ti 16GB, but don't listen to them. It's a good card when you use it how it's supposed to be used i.e. 1440p, DLSS, FG with optimized graphic settings and if you play e-sports titles, paired with a good CPU, you will be set for a couple of years easy.
Another potential option like others have said, the 7900 XT is pretty good value right now at $630 USD. If you don't mind the lack of NVIDIA features this card blows every modern game at 1440p max settings without the need to upscale. The VRAM is a tad overrated but the 20(!) buffer over the 4070 super's 12 is huge especially when you start getting into native 4K (or specific intense game mods), which the 7900XT can do pretty well with high settings. If you don't care about RT, it's a decent compromise for about 30 bucks more, and personally if you ask me Raytracing isn't really a viable, comfy option until that 4070 TI S, 4080 S range. If you ever regret the lack of NVIDIA features you can always just return it, especially since some online stores like Newegg are doing a holiday return window thing where you have no questions asked returns all the way until Jan 2025. This is great for people who want to do some strenuous gaming right now while being able to have that cushion for that extra money going into the next gen cards.
I bought a 7900XT been very happy with it. Now with AMDs fluid motion 2 getting even higher FPS. Curious to see what the next gen 8000 series gpus will offer. Given that AMD has thrown in the towel for high end gpu market.
I really don't like 300w+ cards. Cards should really be 250w at max like 2080ti was. Anything past that is just asking for trouble. Really disappointed about rtx 5000 rumors so far, it seems like even 70 class cards will now be huge, power hungry and unreliable
The 4070 Ti Super doesn't just have more VRAM than the 4070 Super, it also comes with double AV1 encoders as opposed to a single one, it has a wider Bus, and the same Processor as the 4080 (AD103). It's basically a slightly slower 4080, rather than a faster 4070. So yeah, I'd say that it's definitely worth its premium.
But in terms of performance it is right between 4070 S and 4080. So I would call it "slightly" slow. Otherwise you should also describe it as "slightly" faster than 4070 S.
@@stangamer1151 But performance alone doesn't paint the entire picture as to why it's priced like that. The 4070 Ti Super comes with advantages, other than its performance, that justify its premium over the 4070 Super. Meanwhile, the 4080 offers roughly the same jump in performance for roughly the same jump in price, except it doesn't come with more VRAM, a wider Bus, a better Processor or better encoding than the 4070 Ti Super, so its premium isn't justified.
@@verde5738 70 Ti S costs 33% more than 70 S. 80 S costs 25% more than 70 Ti S. So you paying bigger premium for Ti S. 80 S has larger L2 cache and faster memory, which helps in some games and will be useful in future games. So it is not that simple. Each of these 3 cards has it's own advantages.
@@verde5738 70 Ti S costs 33% more than 70 S. 80 S costs 25% more than 70 Ti S. So you paying bigger premium for Ti S. 80 S has larger L2 cache and faster memory, which helps in some games and will be useful in future games. So it is not that simple. Each of these 3 cards has it's own advantages.
Got a 7800 xt for $418 during Prime days. Feeling pretty good about this from my old 1660 super, and I can probably sell it to one of my friends if something with a more compelling price-to-performance comes along in 2025-2026
I got greedy and bought at Best Buy for $450 right before the sale but im happy to pay a little more for brick and mortar return and just being able to pick it up off the shelf. Plus it came with Space Marine 2 and another game I probably won't ever play. I know people don't like to include freebies into the price, but SM2 was the game I was most excited to play, so I'm comfortable in saying that brought the real cost of the card under $400 for me. I was questioning my decision for a while but this video makes me feel a lot better about it. My last card was a 1080ti, but it got destroyed in a move so I needed one sooner than later.
TBH, you should wait only if you are buying 5090. For the rest of the line up, unless you want to waste money wait for the fall/winter when super/refresh versions of 80/70 are released. Basically 40 series flashbacks.
Eeeeh, it was mostly like $30 worth of performance for $50 with the exception of the 70TiS and 80S where one got the memory it should've had and the other got cheaper.
@@RotaryJunkie It's gonna be even worse for the 5000 series. Nvidia gonna skimp on memory and performance again, and in reality the 5080 will be closer to 5070, and the 5070 will be closer to 5060 in performance. They really want you to buy the 5090, or else you're getting the nerfed cards. And after selling them like hotcakes, they'll release refreshed versions with little bit more memory, cores and performance, more in line with what the actual gains compared to the previous generations should be. Now that they don't even have to mind about AMD, they'll have free reign over the wallets of sheeple.
I tend to disagree. It all depends on 50xx pricing of course, but I *guess* it's safe to say that, come Jan 2025, you'll be able to get 4090-levels of performance for 4080 (Super?) money. Minus 8 GB of VRAM of course, if the rumored specs are true and complete. They might still launch a 5080 24 GB, for all we know.
Do not buy a card with 8gb of vram. That is absolutely terrible advice. The only advice for that is save more money and get at least 12, personally 16 is becoming the standard now.
You didn't list the 7900xt, people are sleeping on this card. Really good performance and decent raytracing performance too. In Cyberpunk I can run it at high settings with rt ultra with xess 1.3 at balanced with a 2160p output. You can run path tracing if you want too. I would wait for rdna 4. But for $630 it's severely underrated.
Agreed. And even better if you don't really care about Ray Tracing. I play at native 1440p so it'd be a perfect card for me. Where else can you get a 20GB and 320 bit bus for the same money? Nowhere. I'm probably going to get it soon.
Fr I was eyeing this, I was watching Daniel Owen's reviews and if you can get it around 600, you get better than 4070 ti super performance for 200ish less! High 20gb Vram so you could be good for like 5 years if you wanted to.
yeah, I just picked up a new 7900 XT OC phantom white for $630 and two free games at Newegg few days ago! Was waiting until the 8000 series two months away until it was confirmed noen of the 8000 series will have 320bit bus and will be going back to monolithic chip to save costs, they're targeting low end and mid end only.
You can get the 6650XT brand new for $10 less than the 6600XT, so there's no reason to buy a 6600XT if anyone's considering that over the 6600 non XT. At $230 the 6650XT also makes much more sense than a 6600 at $200. The 6650XT is ~25% faster.
yup i got a 6650 xt 3 days ago, 6600 was the same price and 3060s are like 60 bucks more expensive in my country, the 3060 ti is like 200 bucks more than the 6650 in my country and they compete in performance, for contrast 6650 was 4500 pesos on xfx 6400 on import versions like sapphire/msi vs a 3060 ti being like 8k to 11k local vs imports
@@CesarPuma-dc7dd i dont play warzone haha sorry, so far im loving 6650 xt with smart access memory and re-size bar support pc runs so low on resources all the time, for the games i play usually ive never seen my pc go above 50% usage on both despite going max at 144 but i do not play a lot of realistic looking games with insane graphic options to benchmark the card, maybe halo infinite but runs very smooth too at 144
@@CesarPuma-dc7dd just got the 6650 xt shapire, is killing, i play six siege, moder warafre and cs go, 3 hours intensive playing all uktra, constant fps. Don t forget to setup your gpu from amd software , jusk ask chat gpt the best settings for but don play with undervoltage or overclock. I have an 165 hz monitor but i set all to 144, from windows setting advanced graphics, from amd software and also from in game settings.
@@danielowentech yessir! Got it off a recent recommendation from you for my first ever pc build (childhood dream hehe) Have been watching ur vids religiously for a while. Keep up the fantastic work
You recommended the 7700 XT over the 4060 Ti because AMD is actually 22% better in performance for the $. Because even if we take into account DLSS and better RT the 7700 XT is still a better buy. But then you didn't even mention the 7900 XT even though it is actually 26% better in performance for the $ than the 4070 Ti Super. I find it strange. The 7900 XT is only $639 now. Which is $140 less than the 4070 Ti Super. And the card was even $615 a few days ago. That's a pretty noticeable 31% difference. And we can expect such discounts again around Black Friday. Will Nvidia also drop $200? I highly doubt that. And will the 5070 be cheap and powerful enough to justify waiting another 4 months? I doubt that either. The 7900 XT is 40% faster and has 67% more VRAM than the 4070. But MSRP of the 4070 is $600. If the 5070 is also $600 at launch and only has 12GB again, the 7900 XT 20GB at around $600 is still likely to be faster and a better buy than Nvidia. But you won't have to wait another 4 months to find out.
Yeah, I'm kinda disappointed he didn't even mention it as an option. It's a 20GB and 320 bit bus card. I'm probably going to get it regardless. I can always sell it later or give it to my brother if I get a new one. But I think it will serve me well for many years.
@@Zer0Hour17 He only said that because he thought there was no other option cheaper than $800. But that's just not true. The 7900 XT is around that $600 mark, but it's as fast as the 4070 Ti Super for $780.
@@JackJohnson-br4qr I'm pretty sure he knows whats available and again, his opinion is clearly if you are spending $600+ ray tracing is what matters and the 7900xt is no where near as good as the 4070 ti super with ray tracing on.
@@Zer0Hour17 Again, the 7900 XT regularly sells for around $600. That's a 31% better price/performance ratio than the 4070 Ti Super. So even if you turn on RT and DLSS on the Nvidia card, the 7900 XT will deliver more frames for your money than the 4070 Ti Super. As he argued with the 7700 XT vs 4060 Ti and he sided with AMD.
For 1080p High or Very High in the latest AAA titles it's a perfectly good little card. If paired with a Ryzen 7600X or i5 12600k it's also perfectly capable of driving the FPS though the roof in e-sports titles at competitive settings.
@@andersjjensen my cpu is ryzen 5600, still building in AM4 due to my low budget and i dont really plan to upgrade them soon. Hope it last me 4-5 years
@@ManggoSmoothie A 5600 is still good for over 200FPS in most e-sports games and perfectly good enough to suck all the juice out of a 6600 if you turn up the settings in AA/AAA titles. 4-6 sounds like a reasonable expectation. By then Low will look like High today.
yeah, I picked one up few days ago, $630 for 7900 XT OC Phantom White and two free games, was going to wait until 8000 series until I found out none of the 8000 series will have the 320bit bus and they're also going back to monolithic chip to save costs.
Yes, Ray tracing is a unnecessary feature which even the nvidia clowns actually don't use. 7900GRE is a beast price/performance, smokes the 4070 super easily
@@BenganGamer I went for the 7900GRE, its more than enough for 1440p on every game. I would consider the 7900xtx if you are planning for 4k. I'm very happy and have no issues with the 7900GRE, it runs quite and low temperatures and you can tweak it in many ways with adrenalin software if you wish to. 7900GRE+ 7500f with 750W power supply is my combo and it runs smooth. If you consider 7600x or higher cpu I would maybe consider 800Watt+ just in case
Lol what. By what metric. Its faster than a 4080 and uses less power and is cheaper. How is he coping he is recommending a product he enjoys. Don't shill for free. It makes you look like a child.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP "how dare you enjoy your purchase" Not turning on Ray Tracing anyway. Oh dear, I really feel like I've missed out on not spending twice as much as I could have. That said, I wouldn't recommend buying one right now, as tempting as they look dipping down to $800. Prices will continue to plummet when they don't have anything to compete with 5080 and 5090.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP I've built PCs for 30 years. People like you are the reason PC enthusiasts are described as toxic gatekeepers. The only scene I've experienced to be worse, when it comes to brand-brainwash is motor cycle enthusiasts. They will literally get in fist fights over who's preferred crotch rocket is "the most authentic". But keep it up, and you might get there one day, dork.
I upgraded my 6800 to 7900xtx for $800, gaming on Linux and a happy camper. Even though it was refurbished, AMD gave me a code for Space Marines 2 as well.
@@johnbowyer9815 Depends on the time and the model. They dipped to $850, then rose back up to $950 and then started slowly declining. The cheapest model on pcpartspicker is $840 right now. If he got a refurbed reference with full warranty and a game code for $800 he most certainly didn't get his pants pulled off.
@abc-ni9lp 8800xt = 7900xt=nothing in the 6000 series. The ps5 pro might be close to a 6800xt but it's rumoured to have a 8600xt. 8600xt=7700xt=6800xt...see the pattern
@@darkocakic1488 I'm actually playing Hogwarts Legacy @ 4k on a 144hz G-Sync LCD. The monitor is new to me too. I was using 3x 4k@60hz monitors. I wanted to try a 144hz monitor to see if it was smoother, and it is DEFINITELY worth it!
RX 6000 series cards are pretty old tech now, whenever amd release AI based upscaling, it wont work on 6000 series cards as they dont have any AI chips, i'd avoid those cards if you want the longevity, just get 7000 series instead
This is the exact comment I was looking for I was debating on getting the rx 6800 or the 7700 xt because there's only a 10 to 20 dollar difference thank you
I bought a 4070 super a couple of months ago based on your recommendation. No regret. I upgraded from 1660ti. I was able to upgrade my monitor and GPU. Playing Helldiver 2 on max settings everything and on a ultra wide screen. No stuttering and I get close to 100fps.
@@nolanletsrock Considering that you've been on a 1660 Super this long, I reckon you want to squeeze as much performance as you can out of the money you spend. If that's the case, I recommend waiting at least until RDNA 4 comes out, which leaks suggest to be in January 2025. Even if next-gen hardware won't be great, current-gen will have much more attractive pricing in the used market. But now definitely isn't a bad time to upgrade either. It really depends on whether the 1660 Super is holding you back from playing the games that you want to play or not. I own one, too (bricked my RX 6600, so I had to downgrade) and every game I play except for Space Marines 2 runs comfortably well, so I'm trying to hold out until 2026.
Lol, I just brought a new Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX Vapor for $920 usd to give my EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra a break after 3 years of heavy use. I couldn't resist the beauty of the Sapphire Nitro+'s design and its power.
I'm very curious to see if the 7,000 Series AMD cards will support FSR4 or not. I bought a 6800 XT in early September and the only thing that worries me is that I won't be able to use FSR4. Otherwise I feel the 6800 XT is better value than the 7800 XT currently unless you really want the Space Marine II bundle.
Watch for deals. A couple of weeks ago I was going to buy a 4070ti Super for my office pc and a 4080 Super was $300 off making it less than $100 more than the 4070ti Super.
Just got a 4070Ti SUPER last month because I couldn’t deal with the 4060 at 1440p that came with my pre built. Basically did a full rebuild of my PC because I’m completely transitioning away from console gaming after seeing that PS5 pro price and “performance”.
I've been looking at potentially having to replace my 6700xt, and I was SHOCKED that the 7700XT was available for less money than the 6700xt is currently... but man I do not like doing single generation same tier upgrades.
Don't mean to burst your bubble but the 7700xt is not the successor to the 6700xt. The 7700xt is the successor to the regular 6700 non-xt. AMD pulled an Nvidia on us and they even officially said the same thing about the 7800xt. it replaced the 6800 non xt. Not the 6800xt.
@@CRF250R1521except it actually is a successor to 6700xt(everything but vram is increased spec wise cores, rops, clockspeed, etc) and its even based on the same gpu as the 7800xt(unlike the 6800 non xt, which is a lower tier gpu die vs the 6800xt)
The RX 6800 (non XT) still offers the best price/performance ratio in my opinion for under $ 400 with 16 GB. I personally have a RX 7800 XT because the RX 6800 was only available as an XFX custom design in my region and I couldn't get the graphics card into my case. Unfortunately, the RX 6800 XT is no longer available here at all in Europe for a resonable price.
I'm kinda tempted to go for a 7900 XT. Why? Well, it comes with 20GB and 320 bit bus for 700€ in my country. Taxes included. And it's definitely enough for my use and I don't really care about Ray Tracing anyway as I don't notice the difference most of the time. The only thing that worries me is if it can eventually use FSR 4 but at this point so few games support the latest and greatest features that I wouldn't be able to use anyway. And if 8800 XT comes with a 16GB and 256 bit bus then I don't know if it's worth it. And rumors suggest there is no 8900 XT or XTX. And even if something like that comes later and RDNA 4 or any future cards is miles better than 7900 XT, I'll just buy another card then and give the 7900 XT to my brother or sell it if he doesn't want it, lol. But I'm definitely switching away from Nvidia.
My next card will be the 7900GRE. That monster will go undervolted with a custom driver in my current full-size PC and my 4070S will go in my new small ff build for my LR. As usual when you buy a new Oled you start thinking about gaming in more then just one room, Lol.
Imo the 7900XT is the high end value king rn if you are looking for a long term raster investment. Great OC potential too, 20 gigs, hardware based AFMF, no multi display issues like Nvidia, 320 bit BUS.. If you invest in the 40 series rn, you will be left out in terms of features the next gen, as always. The 5090 will be sold out day 1 to scalpers, despite its horrible value (for gamers). The 5080 is a crazy cut down version of it (256 bit BUS only, like cmoooon). The 5070 is a crazy cut down version of the 5080 etc. Its just rediculous..
During prime day I found a RX 7900 XT on a major sale for about $830 CAD, but until then I was considering a RTX 4070 Super, the lowest of which was $800 CAD (about $600 vs $580 in USD). Since the prices were so close I went with the more powerful 7900 XT, but do you think the Nvidia features on the 4070 super would have been worth the raw performance cut at effectively the same price?
If price to performance is a major factor and you are not turning on RT/ FG, then it's better that you went with the 7900xt, especially cause you get that 20gb Vram vs 12 gb(I heard a lot of people get near their 12gb vram and can't max out their performance). At similar pricing, 7900xt is even more powerful than 4070ti super. It all depends on what you value more. I would say if you had the option between 4070 S, 4070 ti S, and 7900xt, if money is a concern, I would go with 7900xt, if money isn't much of a concern I would go with 4070ti S (also maybe be on sale on holiday season/black friday) or better yet wait for 50 series release.
Basically the big reason everyone goes NVIDIA vs AMD at the high end is just "RT or not" along with lower temps and tdp if it matters to you. So you did fine unless you're trying to go for heavy RT which in my opinion heavy RT is only even worth turning on for 4080 and above. Sure 4070 ti super can handle it but it won't be as smooth. 7900xt is a great performer even in lighter RT, just don't expect Cyberpunk Overdrive Path tracing on it. I'm also plenty interested in AFMF and their newer upscaler since they finally decided "heck let's just go AI"
Sorry Daniel, just bought 4080 super pro art. I want to see how it stacks up against my XTX. The XTX lead is shrinking or gone in most cases since the amount of ue5 and RT always on games are increasing.
I switched from a 3070 to a 6750xt recently to get a higher vram option for a reasonable price. I'm waiting for rx 8000 series to drop before upgrading.
@@Radek494 You can go watch one of Hardware Unboxed's videos about it. They showed 12 recent games, if I recall the number correctly, where 8GB cards, that are perfectly powerful enough, have one sort of problem or another (texture pop-in, janky 1% lows, render distance being reduced, etc) already at 1080p.
@Radek494 Performance wise, I wasn't looking for an upgrade. I wanted something that performed close to the 3070 at a reasonable price ($350 on sale at the time) to compare upscaling differences. Using upscaling on both cards had the same performance uplift, but FSR 3 does not look quite as good as DLSS 2. It holds its own without using raytracing. As for the 12gb of memory, it does help. I mostly play 1440p medium/high and 8.5-9gb of usage is around the average I experience on these settings.
Good Video, Daniel very insightful Breakdown and showing Ray Tracing is still in it's infancy. Showing that Game Devs are starting to Push making SUB 8GB obsolete for Future Video Games vs them Programming Games to achieve Good / Decent Performance with 4/6 GB GPU. Even with FSR or DLSS into the Mix it seems they are forcing GPU to solve their inefficient Game Performance Issues.
Upcoming used market is looking fantastic. Finally, a lot of high performing GPUs coming under the $500 range and below. When the new 50xx lineup cards are released, it'll crash the mid to high AMD GPU market. Both new and old cards. The used market sets the value levels of products. If something is valued right, the used price is semi close to market price. Used 7900 xtx/xt has to battle against everything from 4070 to 4080S. It's going to be a buyer's market with used cards.
@Deedee48-jg9om Nothing to do with my point on the new or used market change when the new 50xx line comes out. AMD is in a tough spot. There's no new high-end cards coming, and they have to sell current models at lower price. If they don't drop the price soon, people won't buy their cards. If someone does buy their higher tier options, the value loss is massive in the used market. For example, used market value for 7900xtx should be lower than 4080(S). If there are a lot of used 4080 models available, it drops every GPU model prices below that. There will be a lot of used RTX 40xx cards in the near future. Soon will be a great time to buy mid to semi high tier GPUs.
@Deedee48-jg9om I was talking about future used prices after the release. Don't care about some random personal used price now in a limited market area, but GPU market as a whole. In the US and Europe, AMD high-tier is priced almost the same tier as similar performance Nvidia GPUs. They will have to drop from around $1000 / 1000€ price to close to 700-800 range. 4080 used models will drop to that range pretty fast, so the whole high-tier market is full of much cheaper high-end cards.
Despite the overall recommendation to not buy anything until we have all the info needed for a good decision (that I am absolutely going along with)... Really appreciate these continued videos. Am biting my nails trying to have a finger to the pulse of prices after seeing the Monster Hunter Wilds specs sheet. Gotta make sure my friends can play with me when the time comes!
@@vampiszon6620 Yeah, even if there weren't new GPUs coming out in the near future, I wouldn't pulling the trigger on anything until benchmarks come out for the game. I believe I saw some interviews (maybe from Tokyo Game Show) where they noted the backlash and said they are in the final months of development, which is all about optimization. So... it could maybe potentially possibly change. Or not. It's all about them HUB, GN, and Daniel Owen benchmarks, haha.
I managed to pick up a refurbished 7900xt from microcenter for $570 a few days ago. This card is a massive upgrade at 1440p compared to my now old 3070, and a no-brainer at the price I got it at compared to the 4070 super. Unfortunately, the 3070 was never really powerful enough to allow me to play at high RT settings, and the 4070ti super is significantly more expensive, so AMD seems to be the way to go for the foreseeable future for me
Daniel, thank you for all your hardwork on GPU comparison videos. I finally took the plunge on 4070 Ti S. Couldn't wait for new cards as they never have normal pricing in the starting year. Building my first PC in 30 years.
@@MrAnimescrazy The CPU is still pending since 7800X3D is too expensive right now and 9800X3D has not launched yet. The rest of the specs are as follows: 1. GPU - MSI 4070 Ti S 2. Mobo - MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi 3. RAM - GSkill 32GB DD5 6k MHz CL30 4. SSD - Samsung 990 pro 2TB 5. PSU - Corsair RM850e 6. Cooler - Thermalright Frozen Edge 360 7. Case - Lian Li 216
@@MrAnimescrazy thanks mate 😄 All credit goes to Daniel, PC builder, Hardware Unboxed, Gamer Nexus and JayztwoCents. These guys educated me enough to make this decision
The things I worry about with waiting for next gen GPUs are, will I be able to get one at launch? Will Nvidia offer a reasonable price for a 16gb card? Will AMDs gpu have enough performance now that they aren't competing with the high end? If I wait for next gen GPUs and nothing is worth buying will I miss out on cheaper current gen pricing? I really hate the GPU market right now. It is absolute dogshit for consumers.
1) No. Best you can hope for is probably a 5070 18GB for $649-699. TSMC pricing isn't helping us out either. 2) Great performance for 1440p, at 4K it'll depend on the developer and your frame rate targets. FSR 4 could be a significant improvement over 3.1, if you're okay with upscaling. 3) If you're willing to buy used, pricing will be even better by that point. If you want to stick to retail, yes, because current-gen stocks will be dry by then.
@@Vorexia $700 for an 18gb 5070 sounds generous from Nvidia, if that is the case, will it even be available is the real question. I hope they do better this gen, but I find it doubtful. I'm currently looking at a 4070ti super/7900xt/xtx. If they keep dropping prices, I may have to pull the trigger.
@@JerrySpringfield1 Nothing theoretically stops it from being $749, yeah. Nvidia is no alien to having people pay an extra $100 for more VRAM, as seen with the 4060 Ti. Considering your selection of GPUs, I'd recommend waiting until RDNA 4 comes out in January, 2025. Leaks aren't to be trusted, but IF they are true, leakers have believed for quite some months now that the 8800 XT will be slightly faster than a 7900 XT at raster and on the same level than a 4070 Ti Super at RT. All for around $500. Again, to be taken with a heavy grain of salt, but if that's remotely true it could save you a hefty buck. But again, that would invoke the risk of the supply of your selected GPUs being in limited supply.
5070 is rumored to be 12Gb again... When the 4070 super is already bottlenecked by its VRAM 😂 If the 8800 XT is really as powerful as a 7900 XTX it will be at least 600$, so basically the only good GPU to buy rn is a 7800 XT at like 450$
I don't mind if I need to wait until feb for 5070/TI. The problem is the efficiency. Just hearing that I need more wattage already turning me off for the new gen. 750W is my upper limit, plain and simple.
I do not totally agree. With the "leaked" prices of the 50 series, the price per fps is going to be higher for the 50 series. And with the stock of the 4080 Super going down so fast (90% of retailers here in my country, has sold out their stock of the better versions of the 4080 Super), I would say now is the time to buy a 40 series card, as it has a better price per fps than the 50 series. At least as of release. Six month down the line, this might be different though. So we are talking about a time frame of summer next year maybe, before the 50 series could potentially be worth it. But then we go into the same circle of, should we wait or buy. Then we are eying the 50 series SUPER in the near future. And so continues the never ending circle. Now is absolutely the time to buy the 40 series. If you can wait for offers in November, then be careful, as most of the better versions will be sold out before that. I am sure there will be some nice deals on PNY, Zotac etc. If you are fine with those.
Last week, I bought an XFX Radeon 6750 XT 12GB for 300 at Best Buy. I thought about waiting but my gaming is shifting towards PC gaming. The 6750 XT, I considered to be the most powerful card that my 650 W PSU can support outside of the high price of a 4070. I'll still use my gaming laptop with a 4070 65W but that will probably be for when DLSS is a better use case (looking at you Cyberpunk 2077) or I just want to use HDR (OLED screen).
I’m able to use a 6800 XT with my 650W PSU, but I have a relatively low power CPU (i5 10400), so our situations are probably different. Just wanted to put it out there anyway just in case it helps someone.
Im in the same specs as you almost a nonth ago. I have a Gigabyte 6700xt bought 6mos ago for $230 and traded it 3weeks ago for a 6800xt with 1yr warranty adding $100 thus costing me only $330 for this. Yesterday I decided to upgrade my cpu and psu because I need more headroom thus traded my trusty 5600 and Corsair CX650 bronze to a 5700x3D and 850W Gold PSU FM only adding another $130 total. Now im set to skip the whole AM5 and current nvidia/amd gpu as 6800xt trade blows with the 7800xt/4070/3080ti
12:00 The 7900 GRE is decent compared to the 6800XT - it's 15% more performance yes.. for only 13% more of the price! So it scales VERY well for spending more money going UP the product stack AND its a newer architecture so it runs cooler and quieter and will get supported longer with better potential technologies and optimizations in the future. Personally though I'd recomend to keep checking on the price of the SAPPHIRE 7800XT - for some reason it keeps going on sale on Amazon dipping below 400!! But then it jumps right up again after a day - so watch out and grab it if you can because that's a great deal!
I have a 12GB 4070 Super. It's a great card that performs very well in my use cases, but I'll probably upgrade in early 2026 as I do a lot of video editing and I really like ray tracing in my games so you can never have too much processing power or vram in my eyes. I'll be keeping my eye on the 24GB 5080 or a potential 18GB 5070 Ti or Ti Super as my "budget option".
the discounts in canada are a joke lmao, go look at memory express during black friday, these assholes mark it down literally $5. Such a joke. I ain't buying shit if it's only $5 off.
use amazon price tracker in comparison to websites like newegg canada/ best buy/ canada electronic and you will see almost all of their sales are fake and its just a slow but steady depreciation in the different componants. it lets me see what is actually on sale/ vs the scam sales they get people with
*IT'S WISER TO WAIT* for entry to mid range ones since u will get more for the money and it's future proof Or buy current top range ones on black friday
I had a 5700XT when this driver thing first kicked off and I am confident it is a myth created inside the nvidia marketing department. It was way nicer than my 1060.
It was real. Going from my 970 to a rx590 was a big drop in driver quality when I got a 3070 I didn't notice a difference. When I got my 6900xt the only issue I have is a shut down/start up issue post windows updates where it needs a hard reset.
What was your driver issue? I had both nvidia and amd cards. Never had an issue with drivers. Currently running a RT6900XT and the only problem i have is that when pc goes idle mode and shuts down the monitor, it doesnt remember the windows placement in my second monitor. It is weird because sometimes that doesn't happen.
If you are a gamer, buy a video card now! We have no clue on true stock numbers, possibility of Nvidia pushing the release back again past Q1 2025 or even scalped by bots! Life is too short to keep debating on if you should or shouldn’t but a video card. If you have the money now, buy it! Game on!
If you are a gamer and you find performance good enough then don't. Vote with your wallet. Plenty of interesting old games to try. Rat racing all the time makes you miss those. This is not a race and just enjoy your hobby
This is bad advise. Right now is the absolute worst time to buy. Black friday/holiday/stock clearance deals are right around the corner and the AMD and Nvidia new cards will be launched in January. Even if you can't get one of the rtx 5000 series cards they will push the price of the current cards lower and you will get more for your money in just a few weeks.
If the price of the 5080 is comparable to the 4090 next year, I’ll definitely trade in my 4080s and get a 4090. If NVIDIA releases two 5080 variants-one being a 16GB and the other a 24GB-and they’re cheaper than the 4090, I’d consider it based on the price and the new tech/AI features that would be included in the new card. Regardless, with 16GB of VRAM and being a 4K/RT gamer, I upgrade every 2-3 years anyway, and I always get a good resale value and put it towards the new card. It has been a solid upgrade plan for me. My primary decision to upgrade depends VRAM, and new features, especially for high-resolution and ray tracing gaming. I never really complained about the prices I paid $749 for my 1080ti, $1.2k for my 2080ti, so of course I’d pay $1k for the 4080s. I only skipped the 3080ti because of the outrages scalping prices . But if the 16GB of VRAM proves to be pathetic the next two years, I’ll sell it at a competitive price, cut my losses and enjoy a new card. If the 5080 series offers good performance at a competitive price, it could be an attractive option, especially with advancements in AI and other technologies. Given my upgrade cycle, trading in my cards for new models is a decent strategy to maximize value since I like to keep up with the tech. I’ll keep an eye on the benchmarks and reviews once the new cards are released to make the best decision! I’m a married gamer, who married a gamer and we have no kids. And both work, we can easily afford to enjoy the PC experience. Plus my wife never knows what to get me for gifts so she always gets me a GPU or CPU. She’s amazing :)
I bought 7900xt for 669$ (with white color tax 😅) for my 1600p uw monitor and I can’t be happier with that. White 4070ti I want costs 860$ which is crazy just for gaming with RT and DLSS 😮
@@Thunderhawk51 When used 6070's 7080's are 2 and 3 times more powerful than AMDs best offering,/ "Were #2 " GPUs, You can stick with AMD, shouting I'm # 2 , I'm # 2, Or get a discounted powerhouse used, buy new like me, resale it for a good return on your investment, than upgrade.
Or you could just do it like I did and buy a 7900XT for 650$ (tax included) and have 20GB of VRAM and about 200FPS in Warzone (without FSR, or about 400FPS with FSR native on 1440p) Sure you don't have that much of Ray Tracing Performance and no DLSS 3.5. But the FSR 3 is pretty good and Raytracing is overhyped for me. Just saying. If you want Raytracing go with Nvidia. Also in the 520 area you have the 7900 GRE. Big Bang for the Buck.
DLSS is never an option, it's super bad, just blurrs everything, no matter what settings you use. RayTracing might be usable next gen. the 4000 series isn't good enough imo, you lose way too much performance for it (in the games where it actually would look good)
AMD is NOT taking over, if anything it's the opposite.. rumors and leaks are showing that the 8000 series won't have any cards that even get to the performance of the 7900 GRE.. let alone the XT or XTX.. They are pretty much waiving the white flag and will only be the "go to" cards for true budget gaming. .1080p or 1440 on lower fps or lower visual fidelity
Unfortunately not, at least at the high end. Maybe they will be aggressive with pricing in the mid and low price tiers they are aiming to grow marketshare in.
thank you. i was toying with getting the new 4080super. but i will wait til jan and see how the 5080 compares. hopefully the price jump isn't more than the performance gain.
What about 7900 xtx compared the to the 4070 ti super? These are going for about the same soon. I’ve seen xtx for 820$ already which is similar price range
Trump tariffs negate the idea of waiting for new GPUs. Adding a 60% tariff makes me shopping for all my upgrades before the end of the year. Also, don't expect huge sales. 5090 is $2000 and won't impact other gpu prices in any way. amd navi 4 will be between 7900xt and 7900xtx for $600, so again not worth waiting for after tariffs. navi 4 is ready to go, they are just selling back stock before competing with themselves. I'm looking for a 7900xtx for around $800(zero Fs given about ray tracing).
I recommend waiting to buy a GPU, but if you're set on buying in October, here's my top 5 choices:
Best GPU around $200
RX 6600: amzn.to/3v5tNja
Best GPU around $300
RX 7700XT: amzn.to/3BYcWSx
Best GPU around $400
RX 6800 XT amzn.to/3vqbhSS
Best GPU around $600
RTX 4070 Super: amzn.to/3xWhEyG
Best $800 GPU:
RTX 4070 Ti Super: amzn.to/3T0Kfuz
Past this point is diminishing returns on "value" and next gen could be out soon, so I don't really recommend.
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@@danielowentech I won't get a GPU below 12gb vram for future proof.
7700xt, 4070s, 6600 are all meh
Can you make 'best used gpus'?
You know why I like you? You make the video, you explain everything in detail, and yet you also pin a comment with the relevant information for everyone that's not going to watch the entire video. Fair play, thanks for respecting us as audience, that's why I keep coming back even if I'm not that interesting in the topic, it's my way of saying thanks for your work.
nice video, as usual backed up with realistic assumptions
How long should you wait
Upcoming holiday sales should give you an idea of how desperate they are to sell off old stock. If discounts are anemic, expect disappointing next gen pricing as well.
That's the most reasonable assessment I've seen of anyone :3
What do you mean by anemic bro? If they give high discounts i should wait or buy it? Never had a PC before….
@aam1561 if there's significant (30+%) decrease, they're clearing out, if not they're expecting a long wait
@@aam1561 What's he saying is if the discounts are slim or not that good, it is a bad omen for the next generation. The 5000 series is probably going to be VERY expensive.
@@ParrishT3 Nvidia has no competition its bascially monopoly at this point so what u expect
Nobody knows yet but I see the RTX 5070 performing around 10% better than a 4070 Super but costing an extra $100-$150 while drawing more power. I believe NVIDIA will continue to cater to those with deep pockets and AI companies.
Right now, rumors have it at about 4070 ti performance in raster and about 10% more for ray tracing. Its supposed to be between $600 and $700 according to leaks.
More power? From 3000 series to 4000 series the drawing performance got way better.
@@erickalvarez6486 Only because of the node shrink. RTX50 will be on the same node as RTX40 though.
💯
If you Look at Nvidia...
2015 // 4,68 billion USD /
2019 // 11,72 billion USD /
2022 // 26,91 billion USD /
2024 // 60,92 billion USD /
Thats just crazy....
Nvidia want more money 😡
i grabbed a used 3060 Ti for 200 Euro to replace 1060 , enough for me atm
1060 is geriatric in 2024 lol
I bought 4060 Ti 16GB for 300 euro upgrading from 1660 super a few days ago. Really happy with its performance too. I think the performance gap is the same as from 1060 to 3060 ti
@@maxon1861 Good stuff... If you got a 4060 Ti 16GB for a good price than good for you mate. People will try to sh*t on you for buying a 4060 Ti 16GB, but don't listen to them. It's a good card when you use it how it's supposed to be used i.e. 1440p, DLSS, FG with optimized graphic settings and if you play e-sports titles, paired with a good CPU, you will be set for a couple of years easy.
that sounds like a really good deal!
@@thomaslayman9487 yeah, it's inno3d card, not the best but 3060ti
Another potential option like others have said, the 7900 XT is pretty good value right now at $630 USD. If you don't mind the lack of NVIDIA features this card blows every modern game at 1440p max settings without the need to upscale. The VRAM is a tad overrated but the 20(!) buffer over the 4070 super's 12 is huge especially when you start getting into native 4K (or specific intense game mods), which the 7900XT can do pretty well with high settings. If you don't care about RT, it's a decent compromise for about 30 bucks more, and personally if you ask me Raytracing isn't really a viable, comfy option until that 4070 TI S, 4080 S range. If you ever regret the lack of NVIDIA features you can always just return it, especially since some online stores like Newegg are doing a holiday return window thing where you have no questions asked returns all the way until Jan 2025. This is great for people who want to do some strenuous gaming right now while being able to have that cushion for that extra money going into the next gen cards.
Amen, brother, this card NUKES the 4070S on value ...
Rocking here an xtx. They are good
I bought a 7900XT been very happy with it. Now with AMDs fluid motion 2 getting even higher FPS. Curious to see what the next gen 8000 series gpus will offer. Given that AMD has thrown in the towel for high end gpu market.
the only thing I don’t like about this card is the cold whine. It is quite noticeable
I really don't like 300w+ cards. Cards should really be 250w at max like 2080ti was. Anything past that is just asking for trouble. Really disappointed about rtx 5000 rumors so far, it seems like even 70 class cards will now be huge, power hungry and unreliable
The 4070 Ti Super doesn't just have more VRAM than the 4070 Super, it also comes with double AV1 encoders as opposed to a single one, it has a wider Bus, and the same Processor as the 4080 (AD103). It's basically a slightly slower 4080, rather than a faster 4070. So yeah, I'd say that it's definitely worth its premium.
But in terms of performance it is right between 4070 S and 4080. So I would call it "slightly" slow. Otherwise you should also describe it as "slightly" faster than 4070 S.
@@stangamer1151 But performance alone doesn't paint the entire picture as to why it's priced like that. The 4070 Ti Super comes with advantages, other than its performance, that justify its premium over the 4070 Super.
Meanwhile, the 4080 offers roughly the same jump in performance for roughly the same jump in price, except it doesn't come with more VRAM, a wider Bus, a better Processor or better encoding than the 4070 Ti Super, so its premium isn't justified.
@@verde5738 70 Ti S costs 33% more than 70 S. 80 S costs 25% more than 70 Ti S. So you paying bigger premium for Ti S. 80 S has larger L2 cache and faster memory, which helps in some games and will be useful in future games. So it is not that simple. Each of these 3 cards has it's own advantages.
@@verde5738 70 Ti S costs 33% more than 70 S. 80 S costs 25% more than 70 Ti S. So you paying bigger premium for Ti S. 80 S has larger L2 cache and faster memory, which helps in some games and will be useful in future games. So it is not that simple. Each of these 3 cards has it's own advantages.
I'm not sure that the AV1 encoder is doubled but the other NVENC encoders are starting with the 4070 Ti model.
Got a 7800 xt for $418 during Prime days. Feeling pretty good about this from my old 1660 super, and I can probably sell it to one of my friends if something with a more compelling price-to-performance comes along in 2025-2026
definitely a big upgrade 👍
Nice friends 😂
I got greedy and bought at Best Buy for $450 right before the sale but im happy to pay a little more for brick and mortar return and just being able to pick it up off the shelf. Plus it came with Space Marine 2 and another game I probably won't ever play. I know people don't like to include freebies into the price, but SM2 was the game I was most excited to play, so I'm comfortable in saying that brought the real cost of the card under $400 for me. I was questioning my decision for a while but this video makes me feel a lot better about it. My last card was a 1080ti, but it got destroyed in a move so I needed one sooner than later.
7800 xt was $430 like a week ago and I missed it. I am not happy with myself lol
@@TheShmrshikr! Who wants that old ass slow card!
TBH, you should wait only if you are buying 5090. For the rest of the line up, unless you want to waste money wait for the fall/winter when super/refresh versions of 80/70 are released. Basically 40 series flashbacks.
Eeeeh, it was mostly like $30 worth of performance for $50 with the exception of the 70TiS and 80S where one got the memory it should've had and the other got cheaper.
@@RotaryJunkie It's gonna be even worse for the 5000 series. Nvidia gonna skimp on memory and performance again, and in reality the 5080 will be closer to 5070, and the 5070 will be closer to 5060 in performance. They really want you to buy the 5090, or else you're getting the nerfed cards. And after selling them like hotcakes, they'll release refreshed versions with little bit more memory, cores and performance, more in line with what the actual gains compared to the previous generations should be. Now that they don't even have to mind about AMD, they'll have free reign over the wallets of sheeple.
I tend to disagree. It all depends on 50xx pricing of course, but I *guess* it's safe to say that, come Jan 2025, you'll be able to get 4090-levels of performance for 4080 (Super?) money. Minus 8 GB of VRAM of course, if the rumored specs are true and complete. They might still launch a 5080 24 GB, for all we know.
@@1SaGin reality you're not getting the same performance as 4090 if it only has 16GB.
I’m thinking the same thing. But, none of us know for sure until the benchmarks come out.
Surprised there was no mention of the 7900xtx or the 7900xt since they've dropped so low in price
Do not buy a card with 8gb of vram. That is absolutely terrible advice. The only advice for that is save more money and get at least 12, personally 16 is becoming the standard now.
Same my 3070ti is struggling now a days
Good advice 👍 he should pin this comment. Any card with 8gb or less right now will struggle to run newer games 😅
You didn't list the 7900xt, people are sleeping on this card. Really good performance and decent raytracing performance too. In Cyberpunk I can run it at high settings with rt ultra with xess 1.3 at balanced with a 2160p output. You can run path tracing if you want too. I would wait for rdna 4. But for $630 it's severely underrated.
Agreed. And even better if you don't really care about Ray Tracing. I play at native 1440p so it'd be a perfect card for me. Where else can you get a 20GB and 320 bit bus for the same money? Nowhere. I'm probably going to get it soon.
Fr I was eyeing this, I was watching Daniel Owen's reviews and if you can get it around 600, you get better than 4070 ti super performance for 200ish less! High 20gb Vram so you could be good for like 5 years if you wanted to.
RDNA 4 will probably cost more than that while performing similar, perhaps better RT performance but that's most likely it...
yeah, I just picked up a new 7900 XT OC phantom white for $630 and two free games at Newegg few days ago! Was waiting until the 8000 series two months away until it was confirmed noen of the 8000 series will have 320bit bus and will be going back to monolithic chip to save costs, they're targeting low end and mid end only.
@@panderalexander I’m heavily debating between the phantom or power color red devil.. which one is better?
You can get the 6650XT brand new for $10 less than the 6600XT, so there's no reason to buy a 6600XT if anyone's considering that over the 6600 non XT. At $230 the 6650XT also makes much more sense than a 6600 at $200. The 6650XT is ~25% faster.
yup i got a 6650 xt 3 days ago, 6600 was the same price and 3060s are like 60 bucks more expensive in my country, the 3060 ti is like 200 bucks more than the 6650 in my country and they compete in performance, for contrast 6650 was 4500 pesos on xfx 6400 on import versions like sapphire/msi vs a 3060 ti being like 8k to 11k local vs imports
@@CzDelta92do u play warzone3? 🤔 i wanna know how many fps u get with that gpu, i am between (rx6650xt 290$) or (rtx4060 350$) here in sweden 😅
@@CesarPuma-dc7dd i dont play warzone haha sorry, so far im loving 6650 xt with smart access memory and re-size bar support pc runs so low on resources all the time, for the games i play usually ive never seen my pc go above 50% usage on both despite going max at 144 but i do not play a lot of realistic looking games with insane graphic options to benchmark the card, maybe halo infinite but runs very smooth too at 144
@@CesarPuma-dc7dd just got the 6650 xt shapire, is killing, i play six siege, moder warafre and cs go, 3 hours intensive playing all uktra, constant fps. Don t forget to setup your gpu from amd software , jusk ask chat gpt the best settings for but don play with undervoltage or overclock.
I have an 165 hz monitor but i set all to 144, from windows setting advanced graphics, from amd software and also from in game settings.
In eu the RX7600 is only 10€ more expensive than the 6750xt so I'd just go for the 7600 for the driver supprt/FSR 4
These are one of the most comprehensive videos to help me see practically how cards compete price to performance
7700xt made a GRAND comeback
Yeah, it's $450 launch price was a joke. At $350 it makes a lot more sense.
@@danielowentech yessir! Got it off a recent recommendation from you for my first ever pc build (childhood dream hehe)
Have been watching ur vids religiously for a while. Keep up the fantastic work
It will become 1080p card in 2025. 12gb vram is not enough in 1440p
Its still $450 in my country 😢
@@adlibconstitution1609 Stop the VRAM doom. 8gb can play 1440p fine for vast majority of games.
You recommended the 7700 XT over the 4060 Ti because AMD is actually 22% better in performance for the $. Because even if we take into account DLSS and better RT the 7700 XT is still a better buy.
But then you didn't even mention the 7900 XT even though it is actually 26% better in performance for the $ than the 4070 Ti Super. I find it strange.
The 7900 XT is only $639 now. Which is $140 less than the 4070 Ti Super. And the card was even $615 a few days ago. That's a pretty noticeable 31% difference. And we can expect such discounts again around Black Friday. Will Nvidia also drop $200? I highly doubt that.
And will the 5070 be cheap and powerful enough to justify waiting another 4 months? I doubt that either. The 7900 XT is 40% faster and has 67% more VRAM than the 4070. But MSRP of the 4070 is $600. If the 5070 is also $600 at launch and only has 12GB again, the 7900 XT 20GB at around $600 is still likely to be faster and a better buy than Nvidia. But you won't have to wait another 4 months to find out.
Yeah, I'm kinda disappointed he didn't even mention it as an option. It's a 20GB and 320 bit bus card. I'm probably going to get it regardless. I can always sell it later or give it to my brother if I get a new one. But I think it will serve me well for many years.
From what I can tell his opinion is that there is no reason to spend beyond $600 unless you care about ray tracing, which I agree with.
@@Zer0Hour17 He only said that because he thought there was no other option cheaper than $800. But that's just not true. The 7900 XT is around that $600 mark, but it's as fast as the 4070 Ti Super for $780.
@@JackJohnson-br4qr I'm pretty sure he knows whats available and again, his opinion is clearly if you are spending $600+ ray tracing is what matters and the 7900xt is no where near as good as the 4070 ti super with ray tracing on.
@@Zer0Hour17 Again, the 7900 XT regularly sells for around $600. That's a 31% better price/performance ratio than the 4070 Ti Super. So even if you turn on RT and DLSS on the Nvidia card, the 7900 XT will deliver more frames for your money than the 4070 Ti Super. As he argued with the 7700 XT vs 4060 Ti and he sided with AMD.
Bought used rx6600 for $130 early this month for my first pc. And im very happy with it
For 1080p High or Very High in the latest AAA titles it's a perfectly good little card. If paired with a Ryzen 7600X or i5 12600k it's also perfectly capable of driving the FPS though the roof in e-sports titles at competitive settings.
@@andersjjensen my cpu is ryzen 5600, still building in AM4 due to my low budget and i dont really plan to upgrade them soon. Hope it last me 4-5 years
@@ManggoSmoothie A 5600 is still good for over 200FPS in most e-sports games and perfectly good enough to suck all the juice out of a 6600 if you turn up the settings in AA/AAA titles. 4-6 sounds like a reasonable expectation. By then Low will look like High today.
@@ManggoSmoothie you'll have to turn down the settings over the years but it'll most defintely last you that 4-5 years at 1080p
@@ManggoSmoothiehonestly if you grab a 5700x3d if they keep going lower as people upgrade you’ll probably be golden
7900 XT for 629$ and 6950 XT for 480$ were really good deals.
I picked one up yesterday for 649 plus 2 games for free
yeah, I picked one up few days ago, $630 for 7900 XT OC Phantom White and two free games, was going to wait until 8000 series until I found out none of the 8000 series will have the 320bit bus and they're also going back to monolithic chip to save costs.
As long as I don't really care about ray tracing getting the 7900 GRE instead of the 4070 super sounds like the move
Yes, Ray tracing is a unnecessary feature which even the nvidia clowns actually don't use.
7900GRE is a beast price/performance, smokes the 4070 super easily
@ziggs123 you think the XTX is abit overpriced comparatively to what the GRE offers for a couple 100$ less or still a good price?
@@BenganGamer I went for the 7900GRE, its more than enough for 1440p on every game.
I would consider the 7900xtx if you are planning for 4k.
I'm very happy and have no issues with the 7900GRE, it runs quite and low temperatures and you can tweak it in many ways with adrenalin software if you wish to.
7900GRE+ 7500f with 750W power supply is my combo and it runs smooth.
If you consider 7600x or higher cpu I would maybe consider 800Watt+ just in case
I just got a GRE, the thing is an absolute beast, Didn't even have to upgrade my CPU or PSU to use it.
I enjoy this 7900XTX , I do recommend it!
Cope. You know deep down Nvidia is better
Lol what. By what metric. Its faster than a 4080 and uses less power and is cheaper. How is he coping he is recommending a product he enjoys. Don't shill for free. It makes you look like a child.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVPbut that’s cheaper
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP "how dare you enjoy your purchase"
Not turning on Ray Tracing anyway. Oh dear, I really feel like I've missed out on not spending twice as much as I could have.
That said, I wouldn't recommend buying one right now, as tempting as they look dipping down to $800. Prices will continue to plummet when they don't have anything to compete with 5080 and 5090.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP I've built PCs for 30 years. People like you are the reason PC enthusiasts are described as toxic gatekeepers. The only scene I've experienced to be worse, when it comes to brand-brainwash is motor cycle enthusiasts. They will literally get in fist fights over who's preferred crotch rocket is "the most authentic". But keep it up, and you might get there one day, dork.
I upgraded my 6800 to 7900xtx for $800, gaming on Linux and a happy camper. Even though it was refurbished, AMD gave me a code for Space Marines 2 as well.
$800 is not a discount for the 7900xtx in America
@@johnbowyer9815 It's fine enough for me. Especially for the reference model which is next to impossible to find new.
@@johnbowyer9815 Depends on the time and the model. They dipped to $850, then rose back up to $950 and then started slowly declining. The cheapest model on pcpartspicker is $840 right now. If he got a refurbed reference with full warranty and a game code for $800 he most certainly didn't get his pants pulled off.
Things Daniel Owens has encountered when showing something from his own videos:
1. getting ads
2. losing connection
Wait for 50 series? Im waiting for the 8800xt
Lmao
8800xt = 6800xt wait for 9800xt
@abc-ni9lp no it doesn't lol.
@abc-ni9lp 8800xt = 7900xt=nothing in the 6000 series.
The ps5 pro might be close to a 6800xt but it's rumoured to have a 8600xt. 8600xt=7700xt=6800xt...see the pattern
@@Trunka34 you mean ps 5 pro?
Just received my RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB today, and installed it! It is an incredible GPU!
Same, got it a few days ago, what a monster in 1440k
It's alright.
@@darkocakic1488 I'm actually playing Hogwarts Legacy @ 4k on a 144hz G-Sync LCD. The monitor is new to me too. I was using 3x 4k@60hz monitors. I wanted to try a 144hz monitor to see if it was smoother, and it is DEFINITELY worth it!
Would have been great at the beginning of 2023 but it will feel meh in a year or so.
is there another version with more vram that i don't know about?
RX 6000 series cards are pretty old tech now, whenever amd release AI based upscaling, it wont work on 6000 series cards as they dont have any AI chips, i'd avoid those cards if you want the longevity, just get 7000 series instead
This is the exact comment I was looking for I was debating on getting the rx 6800 or the 7700 xt because there's only a 10 to 20 dollar difference thank you
I bought a 4070 super a couple of months ago based on your recommendation. No regret. I upgraded from 1660ti. I was able to upgrade my monitor and GPU. Playing Helldiver 2 on max settings everything and on a ultra wide screen. No stuttering and I get close to 100fps.
im on the 1660 super, still debating whether to wait
@@nolanletsrock if you play esports dont if you play +AAA just get used 6700xt and wait for the big upgrade next year
@@nolanletsrock Considering that you've been on a 1660 Super this long, I reckon you want to squeeze as much performance as you can out of the money you spend. If that's the case, I recommend waiting at least until RDNA 4 comes out, which leaks suggest to be in January 2025. Even if next-gen hardware won't be great, current-gen will have much more attractive pricing in the used market. But now definitely isn't a bad time to upgrade either. It really depends on whether the 1660 Super is holding you back from playing the games that you want to play or not. I own one, too (bricked my RX 6600, so I had to downgrade) and every game I play except for Space Marines 2 runs comfortably well, so I'm trying to hold out until 2026.
Lol, I just brought a new Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX Vapor for $920 usd to give my EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra a break after 3 years of heavy use. I couldn't resist the beauty of the Sapphire Nitro+'s design and its power.
How is it running. Here rocking an asus tuf oc xtx. Really cool cards
@laszlodajka5946 I don't have it yet. It's being delivered next Monday.
920? hasnt the xtx been on really steep sales lately?
i also got this one and it's an absolute beauty
@defnotatroll It's the lowest price I've seen for Sapphire Nitro+ model since its release.
Where can I download a Daniel Owen mouse cursor?
Lmao😂😂
I'm very curious to see if the 7,000 Series AMD cards will support FSR4 or not. I bought a 6800 XT in early September and the only thing that worries me is that I won't be able to use FSR4. Otherwise I feel the 6800 XT is better value than the 7800 XT currently unless you really want the Space Marine II bundle.
Watch for deals. A couple of weeks ago I was going to buy a 4070ti Super for my office pc and a 4080 Super was $300 off making it less than $100 more than the 4070ti Super.
Damn that is a good deal.
Just got a 4070Ti SUPER last month because I couldn’t deal with the 4060 at 1440p that came with my pre built. Basically did a full rebuild of my PC because I’m completely transitioning away from console gaming after seeing that PS5 pro price and “performance”.
So what you're saying my 1080Ti needs to endure a couple of more months? Can do, maybe more.
I've been looking at potentially having to replace my 6700xt, and I was SHOCKED that the 7700XT was available for less money than the 6700xt is currently... but man I do not like doing single generation same tier upgrades.
Don't mean to burst your bubble but the 7700xt is not the successor to the 6700xt. The 7700xt is the successor to the regular 6700 non-xt.
AMD pulled an Nvidia on us and they even officially said the same thing about the 7800xt. it replaced the 6800 non xt. Not the 6800xt.
@@CRF250R1521except it actually is a successor to 6700xt(everything but vram is increased spec wise cores, rops, clockspeed, etc) and its even based on the same gpu as the 7800xt(unlike the 6800 non xt, which is a lower tier gpu die vs the 6800xt)
i just bought a 4060ti 8GB three months ago, but keep watching. It is very exciting listening to you.
got a refurbished 7900xt from micro center for 560. no regrets
Wow so lucky bro i wish gpus were cheaper here in EU
Why are you not using FG on AMD?
7900xt is going for like $630-$650. Would’ve been a good honorable mention but the list is solid nonetheless!
I think the 7900XT should have been included @ $649usd. I have seen it at $620usd.
Great content Daniel Owens!! 🏆
Currently, the power color Red Devil 7800xt and the xfx Radeon rx 7900 16gb are the same price on Amazon $549
7900xt is pretty good value right now surprised no mention
The RX 6800 (non XT) still offers the best price/performance ratio in my opinion for under $ 400 with 16 GB. I personally have a RX 7800 XT because the RX 6800 was only available as an XFX custom design in my region and I couldn't get the graphics card into my case. Unfortunately, the RX 6800 XT is no longer available here at all in Europe for a resonable price.
I'm kinda tempted to go for a 7900 XT. Why? Well, it comes with 20GB and 320 bit bus for 700€ in my country. Taxes included. And it's definitely enough for my use and I don't really care about Ray Tracing anyway as I don't notice the difference most of the time. The only thing that worries me is if it can eventually use FSR 4 but at this point so few games support the latest and greatest features that I wouldn't be able to use anyway. And if 8800 XT comes with a 16GB and 256 bit bus then I don't know if it's worth it. And rumors suggest there is no 8900 XT or XTX. And even if something like that comes later and RDNA 4 or any future cards is miles better than 7900 XT, I'll just buy another card then and give the 7900 XT to my brother or sell it if he doesn't want it, lol.
But I'm definitely switching away from Nvidia.
Around 600, the 7900 XT?
I hope the rx8000 series comes out around February. I'm trying to start saving for an 8800xt.
My next card will be the 7900GRE. That monster will go undervolted with a custom driver in my current full-size PC and my 4070S will go in my new small ff build for my LR. As usual when you buy a new Oled you start thinking about gaming in more then just one room, Lol.
Imo the 7900XT is the high end value king rn if you are looking for a long term raster investment. Great OC potential too, 20 gigs, hardware based AFMF, no multi display issues like Nvidia, 320 bit BUS..
If you invest in the 40 series rn, you will be left out in terms of features the next gen, as always.
The 5090 will be sold out day 1 to scalpers, despite its horrible value (for gamers). The 5080 is a crazy cut down version of it (256 bit BUS only, like cmoooon). The 5070 is a crazy cut down version of the 5080 etc. Its just rediculous..
During prime day I found a RX 7900 XT on a major sale for about $830 CAD, but until then I was considering a RTX 4070 Super, the lowest of which was $800 CAD (about $600 vs $580 in USD). Since the prices were so close I went with the more powerful 7900 XT, but do you think the Nvidia features on the 4070 super would have been worth the raw performance cut at effectively the same price?
If price to performance is a major factor and you are not turning on RT/ FG, then it's better that you went with the 7900xt, especially cause you get that 20gb Vram vs 12 gb(I heard a lot of people get near their 12gb vram and can't max out their performance). At similar pricing, 7900xt is even more powerful than 4070ti super. It all depends on what you value more. I would say if you had the option between 4070 S, 4070 ti S, and 7900xt, if money is a concern, I would go with 7900xt, if money isn't much of a concern I would go with 4070ti S (also maybe be on sale on holiday season/black friday) or better yet wait for 50 series release.
Basically the big reason everyone goes NVIDIA vs AMD at the high end is just "RT or not" along with lower temps and tdp if it matters to you.
So you did fine unless you're trying to go for heavy RT which in my opinion heavy RT is only even worth turning on for 4080 and above. Sure 4070 ti super can handle it but it won't be as smooth.
7900xt is a great performer even in lighter RT, just don't expect Cyberpunk Overdrive Path tracing on it. I'm also plenty interested in AFMF and their newer upscaler since they finally decided "heck let's just go AI"
Sorry Daniel, just bought 4080 super pro art. I want to see how it stacks up against my XTX. The XTX lead is shrinking or gone in most cases since the amount of ue5 and RT always on games are increasing.
what are you talking about bro? lol that's just copium.. Only thing here shrinking is my iq reading all these comments.
I switched from a 3070 to a 6750xt recently to get a higher vram option for a reasonable price. I'm waiting for rx 8000 series to drop before upgrading.
Performance wise there wasn't any upgrade, but is the 12 gb of VRAM helping you in the games you play?
@@Radek494 You can go watch one of Hardware Unboxed's videos about it. They showed 12 recent games, if I recall the number correctly, where 8GB cards, that are perfectly powerful enough, have one sort of problem or another (texture pop-in, janky 1% lows, render distance being reduced, etc) already at 1080p.
@Radek494 Performance wise, I wasn't looking for an upgrade. I wanted something that performed close to the 3070 at a reasonable price ($350 on sale at the time) to compare upscaling differences.
Using upscaling on both cards had the same performance uplift, but FSR 3 does not look quite as good as DLSS 2. It holds its own without using raytracing.
As for the 12gb of memory, it does help. I mostly play 1440p medium/high and 8.5-9gb of usage is around the average I experience on these settings.
Downgrade for productivity task. Maybe you don't do stuff like video editing etc
Good Video, Daniel very insightful Breakdown and showing Ray Tracing is still in it's infancy. Showing that Game Devs are starting to Push making SUB 8GB obsolete for Future Video Games vs them Programming Games to achieve Good / Decent Performance with 4/6 GB GPU. Even with FSR or DLSS into the Mix it seems they are forcing GPU to solve their inefficient Game Performance Issues.
Upcoming used market is looking fantastic. Finally, a lot of high performing GPUs coming under the $500 range and below. When the new 50xx lineup cards are released, it'll crash the mid to high AMD GPU market. Both new and old cards. The used market sets the value levels of products. If something is valued right, the used price is semi close to market price. Used 7900 xtx/xt has to battle against everything from 4070 to 4080S. It's going to be a buyer's market with used cards.
@Deedee48-jg9om Nothing to do with my point on the new or used market change when the new 50xx line comes out. AMD is in a tough spot. There's no new high-end cards coming, and they have to sell current models at lower price. If they don't drop the price soon, people won't buy their cards. If someone does buy their higher tier options, the value loss is massive in the used market.
For example, used market value for 7900xtx should be lower than 4080(S). If there are a lot of used 4080 models available, it drops every GPU model prices below that. There will be a lot of used RTX 40xx cards in the near future. Soon will be a great time to buy mid to semi high tier GPUs.
@Deedee48-jg9om I was talking about future used prices after the release. Don't care about some random personal used price now in a limited market area, but GPU market as a whole. In the US and Europe, AMD high-tier is priced almost the same tier as similar performance Nvidia GPUs. They will have to drop from around $1000 / 1000€ price to close to 700-800 range. 4080 used models will drop to that range pretty fast, so the whole high-tier market is full of much cheaper high-end cards.
I'm looking to upgrade from a 3070. I gotta play the newest cod on low settings to get 144hz
Despite the overall recommendation to not buy anything until we have all the info needed for a good decision (that I am absolutely going along with)...
Really appreciate these continued videos. Am biting my nails trying to have a finger to the pulse of prices after seeing the Monster Hunter Wilds specs sheet. Gotta make sure my friends can play with me when the time comes!
Bro these spec sheet are ass. They don't make sense, even DF made a video about it. Don't worry roo much
@@vampiszon6620 Yeah, even if there weren't new GPUs coming out in the near future, I wouldn't pulling the trigger on anything until benchmarks come out for the game.
I believe I saw some interviews (maybe from Tokyo Game Show) where they noted the backlash and said they are in the final months of development, which is all about optimization. So... it could maybe potentially possibly change. Or not.
It's all about them HUB, GN, and Daniel Owen benchmarks, haha.
What about a 6900XT fot 400€?
Is it worth it? Even a 6950 for 500€?
Buy NVidia if you love to play Settings.
Buy AMD if you love to play all other games....
r/iam14andthisisdeep contribution.
settings lol
I managed to pick up a refurbished 7900xt from microcenter for $570 a few days ago. This card is a massive upgrade at 1440p compared to my now old 3070, and a no-brainer at the price I got it at compared to the 4070 super. Unfortunately, the 3070 was never really powerful enough to allow me to play at high RT settings, and the 4070ti super is significantly more expensive, so AMD seems to be the way to go for the foreseeable future for me
I was going with the 4070 ti super on prime day for 750 but I went with the 7900xtx for 788 instead. Super happy with the decision now.
o7
where did you get the 7900xtx for that price? Im looking in buying one and the cheapest one I can find is 850$
Daniel, thank you for all your hardwork on GPU comparison videos. I finally took the plunge on 4070 Ti S. Couldn't wait for new cards as they never have normal pricing in the starting year. Building my first PC in 30 years.
What are the rest of your specs?
@@MrAnimescrazy The CPU is still pending since 7800X3D is too expensive right now and 9800X3D has not launched yet. The rest of the specs are as follows:
1. GPU - MSI 4070 Ti S
2. Mobo - MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi
3. RAM - GSkill 32GB DD5 6k MHz CL30
4. SSD - Samsung 990 pro 2TB
5. PSU - Corsair RM850e
6. Cooler - Thermalright Frozen Edge 360
7. Case - Lian Li 216
@@darkfeeels a nice build.
@@MrAnimescrazy thanks mate 😄 All credit goes to Daniel, PC builder, Hardware Unboxed, Gamer Nexus and JayztwoCents. These guys educated me enough to make this decision
The things I worry about with waiting for next gen GPUs are, will I be able to get one at launch? Will Nvidia offer a reasonable price for a 16gb card? Will AMDs gpu have enough performance now that they aren't competing with the high end? If I wait for next gen GPUs and nothing is worth buying will I miss out on cheaper current gen pricing? I really hate the GPU market right now. It is absolute dogshit for consumers.
My exact thoughts
1) No. Best you can hope for is probably a 5070 18GB for $649-699. TSMC pricing isn't helping us out either.
2) Great performance for 1440p, at 4K it'll depend on the developer and your frame rate targets. FSR 4 could be a significant improvement over 3.1, if you're okay with upscaling.
3) If you're willing to buy used, pricing will be even better by that point. If you want to stick to retail, yes, because current-gen stocks will be dry by then.
@@Vorexia $700 for an 18gb 5070 sounds generous from Nvidia, if that is the case, will it even be available is the real question. I hope they do better this gen, but I find it doubtful. I'm currently looking at a 4070ti super/7900xt/xtx. If they keep dropping prices, I may have to pull the trigger.
@@JerrySpringfield1 Nothing theoretically stops it from being $749, yeah. Nvidia is no alien to having people pay an extra $100 for more VRAM, as seen with the 4060 Ti.
Considering your selection of GPUs, I'd recommend waiting until RDNA 4 comes out in January, 2025. Leaks aren't to be trusted, but IF they are true, leakers have believed for quite some months now that the 8800 XT will be slightly faster than a 7900 XT at raster and on the same level than a 4070 Ti Super at RT. All for around $500. Again, to be taken with a heavy grain of salt, but if that's remotely true it could save you a hefty buck.
But again, that would invoke the risk of the supply of your selected GPUs being in limited supply.
5070 is rumored to be 12Gb again... When the 4070 super is already bottlenecked by its VRAM 😂
If the 8800 XT is really as powerful as a 7900 XTX it will be at least 600$, so basically the only good GPU to buy rn is a 7800 XT at like 450$
I don't mind if I need to wait until feb for 5070/TI. The problem is the efficiency. Just hearing that I need more wattage already turning me off for the new gen.
750W is my upper limit, plain and simple.
7700XT at 350 is insane here its 450$, here 7600 at 300 and and RTX 4060 at 330 are the only options. Even 7600 is at 400$.
US prices are always quoted without tax.
@@andersjjensen Even with taxes deducted 7700XT here is close to 400$
Picked up a 7900xtx last week for £700. Happy days.
I do not totally agree. With the "leaked" prices of the 50 series, the price per fps is going to be higher for the 50 series. And with the stock of the 4080 Super going down so fast (90% of retailers here in my country, has sold out their stock of the better versions of the 4080 Super), I would say now is the time to buy a 40 series card, as it has a better price per fps than the 50 series. At least as of release. Six month down the line, this might be different though. So we are talking about a time frame of summer next year maybe, before the 50 series could potentially be worth it.
But then we go into the same circle of, should we wait or buy. Then we are eying the 50 series SUPER in the near future. And so continues the never ending circle.
Now is absolutely the time to buy the 40 series. If you can wait for offers in November, then be careful, as most of the better versions will be sold out before that. I am sure there will be some nice deals on PNY, Zotac etc. If you are fine with those.
I went with an Rx 6800 for about 350 a month or two ago. I'm just waiting out for the 8800
I got a 2080ti, still works for me until the 4090 drops to a grand or less lol
just got my myself a 4070super from a 2070 and its amazing
Im selling my sister for the 5090 😊
my gpu died 2 days ago. bought a RX 7900 XTX for 950$ (while the 4080 Super costs 1250$ in switzerland)
Did you rma it?
@@JahonCross what's that?
@@Mirades96
It's a warranty process to get your purchased product repaired.
@@JahonCross ah, no it wasn't the RX 7900 XTX that died, i bought that one to replace my old and now dead 2080 Super ^^
@Mirades96
My bad, I misread it.
Last week, I bought an XFX Radeon 6750 XT 12GB for 300 at Best Buy. I thought about waiting but my gaming is shifting towards PC gaming. The 6750 XT, I considered to be the most powerful card that my 650 W PSU can support outside of the high price of a 4070. I'll still use my gaming laptop with a 4070 65W but that will probably be for when DLSS is a better use case (looking at you Cyberpunk 2077) or I just want to use HDR (OLED screen).
Great pickup... was thinking of using that card for my 12 yr old son's pc that he want me to build
I’m able to use a 6800 XT with my 650W PSU, but I have a relatively low power CPU (i5 10400), so our situations are probably different. Just wanted to put it out there anyway just in case it helps someone.
Im in the same specs as you almost a nonth ago. I have a Gigabyte 6700xt bought 6mos ago for $230 and traded it 3weeks ago for a 6800xt with 1yr warranty adding $100 thus costing me only $330 for this.
Yesterday I decided to upgrade my cpu and psu because I need more headroom thus traded my trusty 5600 and Corsair CX650 bronze to a 5700x3D and 850W Gold PSU FM only adding another $130 total. Now im set to skip the whole AM5 and current nvidia/amd gpu as 6800xt trade blows with the 7800xt/4070/3080ti
I just got a 4090 1.5k is that a good deal
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The 7900 GRE is decent compared to the 6800XT - it's 15% more performance yes.. for only 13% more of the price!
So it scales VERY well for spending more money going UP the product stack AND its a newer architecture so it runs cooler and quieter and will get supported longer with better potential technologies and optimizations in the future.
Personally though I'd recomend to keep checking on the price of the SAPPHIRE 7800XT - for some reason it keeps going on sale on Amazon dipping below 400!!
But then it jumps right up again after a day - so watch out and grab it if you can because that's a great deal!
I have a 12GB 4070 Super. It's a great card that performs very well in my use cases, but I'll probably upgrade in early 2026 as I do a lot of video editing and I really like ray tracing in my games so you can never have too much processing power or vram in my eyes. I'll be keeping my eye on the 24GB 5080 or a potential 18GB 5070 Ti or Ti Super as my "budget option".
Best option 7900xt or 7900xtx no way 4070series
The bus and amount of memory in 7900xt is dope !💪
4:26 I like how you turned into a mouse pointer. 😆
6800xt FTW
I got a 6700xt for $260. Was this a good purchase?
the discounts in canada are a joke lmao, go look at memory express during black friday, these assholes mark it down literally $5. Such a joke. I ain't buying shit if it's only $5 off.
use amazon price tracker in comparison to websites like newegg canada/ best buy/ canada electronic and you will see almost all of their sales are fake and its just a slow but steady depreciation in the different componants. it lets me see what is actually on sale/ vs the scam sales they get people with
Solid list. Clear, and good insights. I'm looking forward to what the next generation does to second hand and low end market.
*IT'S WISER TO WAIT* for entry to mid range ones since u will get more for the money and it's future proof
Or buy current top range ones on black friday
the new budget/midrange will be much more expensive though, we have huge discounts on current gen especially AMD
more for the money. like rtx 3000 to 4000 exept the 4090 ? yeah, great value/perforance bro
Ill wait for a 5070 unless i manage to nail an absolute banger of a price for a 4070 Ti S during BF or something like that!
just wait for the new 50 series and the RdNA 4 . stay strong brothers
Was gonna do that but my 1660 decided to die on me 😢😢
for high end yes, for budget cards its better to buy now while the discounts exist, new cards will not launch with discount pricing
As if we would be able to get it after its release. We would have to wait for months because of those scalpers and high pricing
For what? So we can all be disappointed together?
Just bought a Sapphire Nitro 7900XT for £689. Love these cards.
Last year I bought my rx6800. I had more driver issues with nvidia than with amd.
I had a 5700XT when this driver thing first kicked off and I am confident it is a myth created inside the nvidia marketing department. It was way nicer than my 1060.
It was real. Going from my 970 to a rx590 was a big drop in driver quality when I got a 3070 I didn't notice a difference. When I got my 6900xt the only issue I have is a shut down/start up issue post windows updates where it needs a hard reset.
@@Razzbow The Driver thing was Real.. bout 20 yrs ago though. Thats no longer a thing, its typically some User error that is the problem.
What was your driver issue?
I had both nvidia and amd cards. Never had an issue with drivers.
Currently running a RT6900XT and the only problem i have is that when pc goes idle mode and shuts down the monitor, it doesnt remember the windows placement in my second monitor.
It is weird because sometimes that doesn't happen.
4080 super tuf oc. I love it so far
If you are a gamer, buy a video card now! We have no clue on true stock numbers, possibility of Nvidia pushing the release back again past Q1 2025 or even scalped by bots! Life is too short to keep debating on if you should or shouldn’t but a video card. If you have the money now, buy it! Game on!
Exactly. Remeber 20 years ago when i got my first dig i was just happy i could game on it
If you are a gamer and you find performance good enough then don't. Vote with your wallet. Plenty of interesting old games to try. Rat racing all the time makes you miss those. This is not a race and just enjoy your hobby
Exactly.
@damianabregba7476 well duh people will play old and new games.
This is bad advise. Right now is the absolute worst time to buy. Black friday/holiday/stock clearance deals are right around the corner and the AMD and Nvidia new cards will be launched in January. Even if you can't get one of the rtx 5000 series cards they will push the price of the current cards lower and you will get more for your money in just a few weeks.
In my country you could get a 7900xt for the price of a 4070 ti super :/ what about that situation?
Look at benchmark videos to decide what you want.
If the price of the 5080 is comparable to the 4090 next year, I’ll definitely trade in my 4080s and get a 4090.
If NVIDIA releases two 5080 variants-one being a 16GB and the other a 24GB-and they’re cheaper than the 4090, I’d consider it based on the price and the new tech/AI features that would be included in the new card.
Regardless, with 16GB of VRAM and being a 4K/RT gamer, I upgrade every 2-3 years anyway, and I always get a good resale value and put it towards the new card.
It has been a solid upgrade plan for me. My primary decision to upgrade depends VRAM, and new features, especially for high-resolution and ray tracing gaming.
I never really complained about the prices I paid $749 for my 1080ti, $1.2k for my 2080ti, so of course I’d pay $1k for the 4080s. I only skipped the 3080ti because of the outrages scalping prices . But if the 16GB of VRAM proves to be pathetic the next two years, I’ll sell it at a competitive price, cut my losses and enjoy a new card.
If the 5080 series offers good performance at a competitive price, it could be an attractive option, especially with advancements in AI and other technologies. Given my upgrade cycle, trading in my cards for new models is a decent strategy to maximize value since I like to keep up with the tech. I’ll keep an eye on the benchmarks and reviews once the new cards are released to make the best decision!
I’m a married gamer, who married a gamer and we have no kids. And both work, we can easily afford to enjoy the PC experience. Plus my wife never knows what to get me for gifts so she always gets me a GPU or CPU. She’s amazing :)
nice ❤
@@CaptainScorpio24 Only way to go if you’re an outlier.
why wait ?? older nvidia gpu's are still to high in price compare to the amd gpu's
I bought 7900xt for 669$ (with white color tax 😅) for my 1600p uw monitor and I can’t be happier with that. White 4070ti I want costs 860$ which is crazy just for gaming with RT and DLSS 😮
Exactly, Nvidia is about to rule the top of the world, AMD can compete for 2nd place.
It may rule the world but it won't rule my wallet! 😂
@@Thunderhawk51 When used 6070's 7080's are 2 and 3 times more powerful than AMDs best offering,/ "Were #2 " GPUs, You can stick with AMD, shouting I'm # 2 , I'm # 2, Or get a discounted powerhouse used, buy new like me, resale it for a good return on your investment, than upgrade.
Or you could just do it like I did and buy a 7900XT for 650$ (tax included) and have 20GB of VRAM and about 200FPS in Warzone (without FSR, or about 400FPS with FSR native on 1440p) Sure you don't have that much of Ray Tracing Performance and no DLSS 3.5. But the FSR 3 is pretty good and Raytracing is overhyped for me. Just saying. If you want Raytracing go with Nvidia.
Also in the 520 area you have the 7900 GRE. Big Bang for the Buck.
i totally watched the entire video and then commented,
thanks daniel!!11!!,,.!!!
I haven't even watched the whole video yet
DLSS is never an option, it's super bad, just blurrs everything, no matter what settings you use.
RayTracing might be usable next gen. the 4000 series isn't good enough imo, you lose way too much performance for it (in the games where it actually would look good)
Dlss is amazing and doesn't blur
Please buy amd gpus people. Give nvidia some competition. I just want a properly priced nvidia card.
Buy it yourself
Buying AMD or Intel stocks is better than buying their gpus.
Then u buy it lol.
How can people be this unaware and not see themselves as the problem
Begging people to mercy buy Amd gpus so YOU can get to purchase nvidia cards at a good price😂😂😂
i got a 4070ti for $620 at micro center. pretty happy with that deal
Amd is taking over.
AMD is NOT taking over, if anything it's the opposite.. rumors and leaks are showing that the 8000 series won't have any cards that even get to the performance of the 7900 GRE.. let alone the XT or XTX.. They are pretty much waiving the white flag and will only be the "go to" cards for true budget gaming. .1080p or 1440 on lower fps or lower visual fidelity
Amd will never take over.
Unfortunately not, at least at the high end. Maybe they will be aggressive with pricing in the mid and low price tiers they are aiming to grow marketshare in.
Got a 7800xt for $419 during the newegg sale last weekend
thank you. i was toying with getting the new 4080super. but i will wait til jan and see how the 5080 compares. hopefully the price jump isn't more than the performance gain.
I would say just buy the 4080 super and if you need the extra performance of the 5080 you can sell the 4080 super.
What about 7900 xtx compared the to the 4070 ti super? These are going for about the same soon. I’ve seen xtx for 820$ already which is similar price range
The 7900xtx would be better but you can look at recent comparisons on youtube.
Trump tariffs negate the idea of waiting for new GPUs. Adding a 60% tariff makes me shopping for all my upgrades before the end of the year. Also, don't expect huge sales. 5090 is $2000 and won't impact other gpu prices in any way. amd navi 4 will be between 7900xt and 7900xtx for $600, so again not worth waiting for after tariffs. navi 4 is ready to go, they are just selling back stock before competing with themselves. I'm looking for a 7900xtx for around $800(zero Fs given about ray tracing).