So happy you are breaking down this show. Not just because of the upcoming season 2 but because of the quality of your breakdowns. I love all the little details you catch that I could never.
Hey Hax, been a fan since the Westworld coverage. Two things I wanted to mention to add to your excellent video. First, I'm 100% with you on there being a marked difference between Lumon as they are and OG Kier followers. Cobel certainly comes off as an OG Kier follower to me, specifically her actions in the next episode all but confirm to me that she's VERY pro Kier but VERY anti Lumon. I could also buy Rickon being in essence Kier reborn somehow but then I'm at a loss for Cobel's seeming contempt for Rickon...That also sorta tails into my second point which is that the location of the story seems significant. Mark & co could have been living anywhere, they establish that Severence is nation-wide with varying levels of success/support but the show takes place in Kier, a town named after the founder of the company. I'd be surprised if that's not majorly significant to the story, it IS full of weird people, severed or not... Can't wait for your next video!
There is a scene where Milchick reads Ricken's book and laughs in bewilderment. Then Helly tries to escape so he runs to get her. So it's plausible that he just forgot about the book. Also, you mention the very visible cameras when Irving finds the book; however, cameras are very present throughout the episodes, regardless of what's going on - I think it's just a way to show us just how controlled the innies feel, however in the second to last episode they discover that no one's actually watching (except cobel): "maybe it's enough that we THINK they are always watching". Which by the way is similar to how modern surveillance works. So I think rickon's book slipping through is actually just an oversight.
The Picture of Egan looking over the waters; The shape of the lakes reminds me of the Great Lakes, with his foot sitting right where Chicago is located.
Me over here thinking I have some big brain thoughts... but my little heart is breaking thinking Burt doesn't, on some level, love Irv. I didn't even consider it before your series
I love these breakdown, and really appreciate your insight into the show. Much more in-depth than many others. Hope you finish off the season before S2.
As soon as Helly watched Helena telling her "you are not a person" and realizing her outtie would never help her to get out, I knew she would have tried to off herself. From what we had been showed about her charachter so far, it was the only "logical" thing to do for her
Yup. Much smarter move would be a play like “I need a second job to pay my family bills / cancer treatment of our little daughter” etc. However a hard approach seems to be in line with her outie’s character.
Hi Hax! I think I've commented this before, but your analysis of Westworld is something I think about daily, and has changed me as a person (in terms of moving from intaking and spreading negative data, to positive data). I just rewatched Season 2 with all of your themes of determinism and mental health in mind, and this really is the most important story of the 21st Century. I really really do understand the show now I think. The wolf in the Sublime, the speeches about everything ending, Ford's and Arnold's backstories being the key Insight to it all. I say all this to ask - will you ever make a video about what you imagine Season 5 would have been? Since we've already seen so much of it, and you can piece together the rest? I think I have a good idea, but I know you'd have *the* idea. It would be amazing to have one more Westworld video, but it's your choice.
@@nightowl8477 what an incredible comment to get first thing in the morning, thank you night owl! Without any doubt, this will happen! I have shared my thoughts on what I imagined Season Five would look like in one of the last WW videos I made, if I recall correctly, but I don’t think I have a video dedicated to imagining Season Five in detail. Only a matter of time :D
@@HaxDogma - thank *you* for your empathy in being able to understand the show's message! (a message it's been shouting the exact opposite of every season, because that's how the show writes its reveals, and this was surely going to be the One Last Mindfuck around the bend. But to see the show's true meaning in spite of all that reverse psychology, is very special).
Is it my own pareidolia that's seeing something framed behind the headboard in the darkness of the painting of Kier as a boy, or is that just me?...Also, the sheer disparity about who they are on the outside verses who they are on the inside, the inside people essentially being blank slates reduced down to WHAT they are, rather than the WHO they are with all of their life experiences is so spooky. Cobel being framed with the finger trap while asked about the board, and then having it framed while pulled to its furthest extent when looking at Mr. Grainer is wild...why is all of this beginning to feel like one big eugenics project and the code they are trashing is genetic.
It’s all about time: it doesn’t exist in the show: Birth and death circuitous…several women pregnant/having babies and being severed to endure the births; reincarnation (in whatever form - just the mind into new body?); the entire set and accouterments are anachronistic - mid-century - 1980s - in the future? - the painting ‘The Youthful Convalesence…’ “rise up from your deathbed and sally forth” - collecting data from severed-parties’ brains; Jame to Helly (maybe later in show): I will see you at my revolution (rebirth into new body kind of like half-alive Ms. Casey/Gemma)??? Kier through the “words and actions” of his employees lives on 😮
40:23 Or maybe Ricken is painted as detached snob because that’s how many “good citizens” (wake up early, work hard etc.) perceive leftists’ ideas and theorists. Btw author of The Communist Manifesto Karl Marx also had a financial safety net (mostly from his friend, Engels). Which in hindsight I do not perceive as being hypocritical. If you work all day for survival you do not have capacity to take a step back and describe system (class struggle etc.) from the outside (writing alone just take time and requires fresh mind etc.).
You seem opposed to the idea that kier was a very weird individual who started to consider himself as a god. Sure, lumon could have purposefully modified his Word to fit their needs, but you said "if kier existed and was a smart prolific dude, he woulnd't tell people to not explore other literature or knowlege". But why?? His life story could have led him to think of himself as a superior being, as a God, and see his own philosophical writing the same as the Bible. Being smart and prolific has nothing to do with hybris.
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These videos are ridiculously under appreciated for the quality. Commenting for algorithm.
Thank you so much!
So happy you are breaking down this show. Not just because of the upcoming season 2 but because of the quality of your breakdowns. I love all the little details you catch that I could never.
Truly appreciate these great breakdowns
Hey Hax, been a fan since the Westworld coverage. Two things I wanted to mention to add to your excellent video. First, I'm 100% with you on there being a marked difference between Lumon as they are and OG Kier followers. Cobel certainly comes off as an OG Kier follower to me, specifically her actions in the next episode all but confirm to me that she's VERY pro Kier but VERY anti Lumon. I could also buy Rickon being in essence Kier reborn somehow but then I'm at a loss for Cobel's seeming contempt for Rickon...That also sorta tails into my second point which is that the location of the story seems significant. Mark & co could have been living anywhere, they establish that Severence is nation-wide with varying levels of success/support but the show takes place in Kier, a town named after the founder of the company. I'd be surprised if that's not majorly significant to the story, it IS full of weird people, severed or not... Can't wait for your next video!
There is a scene where Milchick reads Ricken's book and laughs in bewilderment. Then Helly tries to escape so he runs to get her. So it's plausible that he just forgot about the book. Also, you mention the very visible cameras when Irving finds the book; however, cameras are very present throughout the episodes, regardless of what's going on - I think it's just a way to show us just how controlled the innies feel, however in the second to last episode they discover that no one's actually watching (except cobel): "maybe it's enough that we THINK they are always watching". Which by the way is similar to how modern surveillance works. So I think rickon's book slipping through is actually just an oversight.
The Picture of Egan looking over the waters; The shape of the lakes reminds me of the Great Lakes, with his foot sitting right where Chicago is located.
I saw that too
im sure these videos will pickup thanks for your dedication
especially with season 2 coming.
Me over here thinking I have some big brain thoughts... but my little heart is breaking thinking Burt doesn't, on some level, love Irv. I didn't even consider it before your series
I love these breakdown, and really appreciate your insight into the show. Much more in-depth than many others. Hope you finish off the season before S2.
As soon as Helly watched Helena telling her "you are not a person" and realizing her outtie would never help her to get out, I knew she would have tried to off herself. From what we had been showed about her charachter so far, it was the only "logical" thing to do for her
Yup. Much smarter move would be a play like “I need a second job to pay my family bills / cancer treatment of our little daughter” etc. However a hard approach seems to be in line with her outie’s character.
Hax to the Max
what a great way to end a friday with! love these vids, keep up the great work
YESSS!!! Keep ‘em coming Hax
i love these videos, cant wait for season 2!!
Thoroughly enjoying these videos. Thanks!
7:44 fun fact: Adam Scott auditioned for Jim’s role in The Office. You can even find his audition recordings on TH-cam
I've been waiting! :D Well worth the wait.
Outie Mark was wearing red. Innie Mark wears blue. The robe he gives to reintegrated Petey is red and blue stripes.
Really great analysis! Looking forward to season 2 in January.
Hi Hax! I think I've commented this before, but your analysis of Westworld is something I think about daily, and has changed me as a person (in terms of moving from intaking and spreading negative data, to positive data). I just rewatched Season 2 with all of your themes of determinism and mental health in mind, and this really is the most important story of the 21st Century. I really really do understand the show now I think. The wolf in the Sublime, the speeches about everything ending, Ford's and Arnold's backstories being the key Insight to it all.
I say all this to ask - will you ever make a video about what you imagine Season 5 would have been? Since we've already seen so much of it, and you can piece together the rest? I think I have a good idea, but I know you'd have *the* idea. It would be amazing to have one more Westworld video, but it's your choice.
@@nightowl8477 what an incredible comment to get first thing in the morning, thank you night owl! Without any doubt, this will happen! I have shared my thoughts on what I imagined Season Five would look like in one of the last WW videos I made, if I recall correctly, but I don’t think I have a video dedicated to imagining Season Five in detail. Only a matter of time :D
@@HaxDogma - thank *you* for your empathy in being able to understand the show's message! (a message it's been shouting the exact opposite of every season, because that's how the show writes its reveals, and this was surely going to be the One Last Mindfuck around the bend. But to see the show's true meaning in spite of all that reverse psychology, is very special).
Love these videos.
Thank you so much.
So good. You should have so many more subs
I think we are meant to believe that Michek forgot about Ricken’s book and they’ve kept it hidden well enough that management didn’t notice.
Is it my own pareidolia that's seeing something framed behind the headboard in the darkness of the painting of Kier as a boy, or is that just me?...Also, the sheer disparity about who they are on the outside verses who they are on the inside, the inside people essentially being blank slates reduced down to WHAT they are, rather than the WHO they are with all of their life experiences is so spooky. Cobel being framed with the finger trap while asked about the board, and then having it framed while pulled to its furthest extent when looking at Mr. Grainer is wild...why is all of this beginning to feel like one big eugenics project and the code they are trashing is genetic.
40:01 almost spat out my drink
It’s all about time: it doesn’t exist in the show: Birth and death circuitous…several women pregnant/having babies and being severed to endure the births; reincarnation (in whatever form - just the mind into new body?); the entire set and accouterments are anachronistic - mid-century - 1980s - in the future? - the painting ‘The Youthful Convalesence…’ “rise up from your deathbed and sally forth” - collecting data from severed-parties’ brains; Jame to Helly (maybe later in show): I will see you at my revolution (rebirth into new body kind of like half-alive Ms. Casey/Gemma)??? Kier through the “words and actions” of his employees lives on 😮
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Also, I think what you say at 5:55 is really profound.
40:23 Or maybe Ricken is painted as detached snob because that’s how many “good citizens” (wake up early, work hard etc.) perceive leftists’ ideas and theorists.
Btw author of The Communist Manifesto Karl Marx also had a financial safety net (mostly from his friend, Engels). Which in hindsight I do not perceive as being hypocritical. If you work all day for survival you do not have capacity to take a step back and describe system (class struggle etc.) from the outside (writing alone just take time and requires fresh mind etc.).
You seem opposed to the idea that kier was a very weird individual who started to consider himself as a god. Sure, lumon could have purposefully modified his Word to fit their needs, but you said "if kier existed and was a smart prolific dude, he woulnd't tell people to not explore other literature or knowlege". But why?? His life story could have led him to think of himself as a superior being, as a God, and see his own philosophical writing the same as the Bible. Being smart and prolific has nothing to do with hybris.
Intelligence does not mean Wisdom 😅
@@munchiekins exactly!
….one more comment for the algorithm 😉
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