Hello, at the end you said something about software. There is no software at all, you can get the same thing to happen with any other joystick, including pots. It is due to how the gamepad tester website works. You push the stick a little bit to an edge and then start turning it without it touching the edge. It causes a bit of green inner circularity because the website thinks that is as far as it can go. The website measures AVERAGE error. And if you make sure you push it all the way to the edge and then start turning, you will not get that green part. Instead, you started rotating while you moved it to the outer edge.
By the same logic, if you rotate it the other way, the direction where you see a green part, you get rid of that green part immediately and won't see it jumping like that
Just an observation and spit balling thoughts. Maybe Gamepad Tester website has been updated on the back end? I don't know. Either way I never said it was an issue. I did say these are the best solution out there and praised them because they are good, very good! I would imagine there is some type of software on the TMR IC, again I don't know. That may or may not get confirmed from the manufacture. There is software in the MCU on the controller there could be some type of interpretation going on. Again I don't know - just an observation.
You need some over shoot in the diagonals because some games require a more square outer range and some are more circular. If there isn't enough over shoot or at the least equal over shoot (error) the movement can be laboured.
It's not a software per say but there is correction algorithm in sticks, thinking it isn't the case is incorrect. Some algorithms are more aggressive than others, some can calibrated, some cannot but there is always algorithm at play of some kind. If there wasn't, you wouldn't be having a reliable experience at all.
They're probably talking about the chip on the board in the controller you can program them. I could be wrong cause I'm not watching all this I already fix electronics lol I'm actually adding RGB and clicky hair triggers to a version bdm-020 controller. My friend asked me if it's a good deal for like 180 for a working ps4 and I told her you do know I fix them right? Lol long story short I found her a ps5 disk version it's for her daughters B-day but my god these kits suck I been constantly filing or cutting at stuff to make sure the controller is smooth as can be amd won't mess up on her daughter. I got a 100$ pack of RGB LEDs that I was thinking of installing in the ps5 before I put the top screws on. Rn it's to the right of me on my motorized L desk. But yea I replace these all the time. I'm trying to find more ppl in Cincinnati that need electronic repair. "" if anyone is in cinty and need repair just look for my name on FB or my gamer tag RestingElf (I normally always take pictures of my work so I can show it off amd prove that o know and I can do the the work. Actually I remove HDMI ports and after my prep work when I put them down it's perfect 👌 all legs are down! (I still check with a multimeter though)
Towards the end when it went from 7-4% you can see that small green bar I'm thinking that is why, cause it whent down as soon as you went back over it so it might just be that the input was registered fast enough where it detected a not fully pueshed input faster than expected and got fixed when you went back over
Don't you think that it goes from 7% to 4/5% because when finalizing the circle, it replaces the old, incorrect starting value (the green zone visible at the start of the rotation) because you had started to rotate the stick before having reached the outer circle, by the new given because you finally show it the maximum fullness of this precise angle? Given that you pay more attention to this the other times, that may be why he doesn't do it afterwards (you are careful to reach the edge completely before turning. The stick may also very well have a defect which sends bad information at the micro second when you start to touch it given that this green zone seems to adopt exactly the same angle even if not the same amplitude. Sorry, this is not a criticism and the precision of the sticks can allow us to see things that we would not suspect without and maybe I am completely wrong and you are doing exactly 100% the same movements during the first than the next and the stick tries to adapt on its own. Anyway, thanks for this video. I would have been interested to see how this technology behaves on an Xbox controller given that it still uses a principle based on magnetic fields in order to know if there is no longer any problem of interference with the left trigger of the controller or if we remain condemned to having to solder the PCB provided by Jun Zeng or if even these PCBs work with it. I would also like to know if these new potentiometers are adaptable to sticks from other brands if the GuliKit ones were not interesting or to be able to potentially put them on official Elite 2 sticks.
@@Spazza42 Nintendo is no hero either. They made Switch joycon an even worst design that drift within a year or heavy use. All of them are guilty of expecting the controller to become landfills sooner or later by using a potentiometer base joystick. The true heroes in this case are the modders like Jun Zeng, software like Dualshock calibration gui creator and all the third party joystick controller company that has Hall Effect. Another hidden heroes are all the TH-camrs who gives solution and tutorial on this matters. ALL HAIL THESE LIFESAVER!!
@@kklum6998Nintendo. Microsoft, Sony and a MAJORITY of controller manufacturers use the same faulty Alps Alpine Potentiometer Stick Modules. They're actually only rated for 2 hours usage a day, at a total time span of 2 months. iFIXIT has several articles on how bad stick drift gets on most controllers, and why they will always fail eventually. Anything past 2 months of minimal use is literally a hope an a prayer.
I just installed them on my scuf instinct pro and they work great I only have some jitter occasionally on the left stick kinda sucks that the scuf controller doesn’t have a way to be calibrated fixed the jitter it looks like I forgot to solder 1 point and now it’s fixed
I was thinking of putting these on my scuf instinct as well, but as you said, there is no way for them to be calibrated. Did they seem to center and everything for you? I'm afraid that if they are off, I'm screwed. Thanks in advance!
I had a glitch today when installing the Gullikit on the Elite 2 (third gamepad). It was the first case of this issue because it had been installed on two other controllers before, and everything was fine. I soldered both TMR potentiometers and connected only the board, without any magnets, and both moved to the right on their own (they didn’t react when moved in all directions). Calibration in Xbox Accessories didn’t help. When I replaced it with the Series controller, everything worked fine. But when I returned it to the Elite 2, it stopped working. Then soldering stock graphite and they are okay. Very odd. Any ideas???
I think I replaced two joysticks but my board is getting really discolored. I’m pretty new to using my hot air station, but what temp do you recommend putting it at. My station has temperature and speed f1-17. Looks like your board looks absolutely fine.
As others have stated previously, the result of the circularity on the left stick shows a higher average (the cones that have been filled vs the cones that are blank) until one complete rotation of the stick which will return the overall error rate. It's not software hocus pocus.
I placed my order. I had opted for a cheaper hall effect. But since there was a problem with the delivery, I decided to invest a little more and get this Gulikit TMR for Xbox. I'm going to install it on a wired 8bitdo. I checked where the gnd on sticks on the 8bitdo are, and it looks like I'll have the Xbox standard on one side and the other would be PS4 standard. In this case I'm going to reverse the magnetics to get the standard on one of the sticks. I hope everything works out. They look like great quality hall effect sticks.
Hi, Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have noticed the site is a little slow and times out today. There is nothing from what we can see right now, we're looking into it with the hosting service.
For the whole slow mo parts looks to me like you never fully pressed the sticks over to start, then when you went over the initial start point made it jump down from 14
Great video! I've been incorporating Hall Effects into my controller builds based on your videos. These might get added to my arsenal.😊 Quick question: Do you have to use the metal thumbsticks that came with the kit, or can you swap for maybe interchangeable thumbsticks?
I have found that the playstation ones sit too low, I have been using eXtremeRate Edge Sticks Interchangeable Thumbsticks for Xbox Core Controller and they work perfectly.
well, the mechanical drift is playable to be honest, but the resistance wearing off and causing drift even when you're centering the stick is what is bothering and is abnoctious, that I can't live with, or play with, because resistance degrade is a softer drift and is durable
Is there any info out there about response curve of these vs default? Haven’t seen much info except one person saying it was different, something to do with stock joysticks having a higher speed up towards the edges among other things. wanna find out if these are actually viable for FPS etc
There isn't any extra durability as such, What these TMR stick offer is correct range and response However the Hall effect stick we have been using exclusively offer the same feel. I guess time will tell.
I also took part in the AKNES beta tests. I was seeing peoples results with low error rate and thought I was doing something wrong. Turns out my sticks, install was actually very good as both sticks are exact copies of each other. Both 7.2% error and are only out of the ring in the 4 diagnal positions. This was on my dualsense controller.
Slow rotation clockwise & counter clockwise once will probably grant the largest outer Avg Error % for the best axis cross over on these I think 🤔. Paired with 0.3mm thick silicone tube shaft protectors on the calibration process it may grant a greater final result once they are removed 😏. Then you will know for sure if they auto refine the calibration via chipset on there final outer circularity 🫵🏼, job well done.
Hi, i have astro a50 with the same problem that the video you did 1 year ago, in the website i cant find the headset repair, can you help me plss y want my astro working 😢
Can you try the k silver TMR ps5 sticks? They are new and there isn’t any info online about them. Seem like a great price compared to the gulikit Tmr option.
I have Nacon Pro Revolution unlimited controller that I wanna mod technically it's a Ps4 controller with Xbox layout and I mainly use it on PC I curious if I can mod these onto them
I came across your videos recently and have really enjoyed them. I would love to learn how to solder, and was wondering if there is any beginner equipment or videos you would recommend? :)
I would like to see your review on Vader 4 Pro from Flydigi, it has a completely new type of Hall effect joysticks (magnets on the board itself, no centering spring, adjustable tension, etc...)
I have both and the ginfull feels a lot better. its smoother and has a little less tension. the gulikits feel stiff and jump worse when trying to micro adjust from center.
@@SlapsMcGaps I am rocking the GinFull V5 atm in my Ps5 Controller and i am absolutely loving them. Compared to the very first revision i had of them it’s actually a day and night difference. I will use them from now on in all my Ps4&5 Controller
Please talk to me about this circuit board holder I see you continuously use? Home made? Ply wood, and what are the holders made from? How did you chose the spacing between posts, are they adjustable? Also, your soldering skills are impeccable! What temp is your hot air at to clean the holes so easily?
It is magnetic but does not use the hall effect but something called tunnel magnetoresistance, so it is basically stil magnetic. The advantage vs hall effect, if I got that right, is that they do not need some sort of translation like you need in some hall effect because they work at the same voltage range as the pots stick so they are basically a drop In replacement
I have repaired three controllers with gainful hall effects and every single one the right analog falls short of reaching full range at the top left. The same analog every time and the same area. Any ideas? Installing these in ps5 controllers. Calibration software doesn't help.
Try calibrating the sticks by yourself first, try getting them near center or to the side where you don't reach the full circulation, then calibrate them with the software, that's what helped me because I had the same issue now the circularity is near perfect
@@hove131use the calibration software but instead of making circles to calibrate range, touch 4 edges of the circle in a plus shape. That will fix your issue. It will increase the percent error but as long at you get anywhere from 5-9% you’re fine. So you touch the top then let go of stick then the right and let go of stick then bottom then left. If that doesn’t help much, do the same plus shape but make a plus shape that’s centered more counter clockwise. That’s how I fix my controllers with that issue
@@mesmeriizek4441 I get closer to 15-20% error doing it that way but I do get full range. I ordered these analogs in the new v5 version. Maybe they'll be better.
These are the same as ALPS sticks mechanically, so you could install a higher spring rate. However I do not recommend to increase the spring rate in these types of analog module because the internal parts are made of plastic and wear out ALOT quicker inducing slop in the mech. We see it a lot with Battle Beaver controllers where they put stupidly strong springs in the modules to the point of the module almost grenading!! The only sticks that offer increased spring tension are the Elite 2 and they have metal parts where all the tension is concentrated.
Just installed a pair of these, recalibrated using the online program, was working perfectly on pc, connected to the ps5 & had to do a controller update so i did & it disconnected halfway through & bricked my controller, absolutely devastated😢
I have the Xbox controller version 1708. GuIiKit TMR joystick on the way but I have to do manual calibration I guess. Xbox Accessories didn't work with my controller.
I'm way in over my head with all this tech babble. I just want to know if replacing the stock joysticks in my dualsense is worth it. My only soldering experience is replacing the batteries in ruby/sapphire. My dualsense controllers do not currently have any drift but with MH coming out in February i'm expecting to put a lot more hours on these controllers.
Hi dear, how can we buy 2 digital analog sticks for more than 20 dollars?? What do we charge a customer for repairs? 100 dollars? The new dualsense can be found at 70 dollars, It's obvious that this is a modification and repair, but am I going to explain this to a customer? Really a lower price for these 2 analog sticks, isn't there?
@@UberMicroRepairs My friend, I agree with you that you pay for quality, but 20 dollars USD for 2 analogues from China not even super precise like ginfull at half of half the cost, which customer pays 60 dollars, or more, for this repair and modification of a new $70 dualsense? Most people don't even know what 2 analog sticks are... The quality thing I agree with you, but still 20 dollars USD 2 analogue from the factory in China is really exaggerated, if it was 10 dollars max per pair, ok! I could already think about it, but in my laboratory, at most there I install it on my joysticks... I don't know if you also pay 20 dollars USD per pair... It would already be good to find them for 10 dollars USD... 😉
@AdrianVegaOfficial I've had them in a couple weeks without calibration and I'm thinking now I should finally calibrate them, the 3rd party link to it on the gulikit website is asking for a PayPal payment but will not tell me the amount I will be paying which seems pretty untrustworthy. Can you remember how much u paid with the link and if it's safe??
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But are TMR's as reliable. Hall Effect is proven the most reliable, and havent even become the standard yet, are we really going to jump the gun to TMR even though there no telling how durable the tech is?
@@UberMicroRepairs oh ok, well then sweet! From reading the explanations about TMR, it sounded as though it was using ferrofluid (which if leaked would destroy everything)
Yep, the "zero deadzone" people are clueless idiots. 100% agree with you that there is no such thing and it's not even a good experience to begin with, you always need a little bit bit of deadzone anyway for proper analog stick control as otherwise involuntary inputs on the sticks just from having your thumbs on them become a major problem.
I bought this for my PS4 controller and have no idea what it is. Just use soldering tools for the first time. Never know anything about soldering before. It's pain. Half day pass still learning. 😂
In the UK these are currently on Amazon but at £15 + £5 shipping plus the hassle factor and unpredictability of the soldering, it seems better to buy their finished controllers. Damn grifters. Hopefully alibaba will sort their quality assurance out someday.
Supposedly, the tmr sticks don't have the re-entering spring, which is the one point of failure for he modules, so tmr should potentially last longer. But I haven't gotten mine yet, so not 100% sure and definitely looking forward to that xbox video.
For your next vid, ide suggest you expose the chip & magnet 🧲 positions shapes 🤷🏼♂️? Across all the pot types you can think of, I'm not buying them all just for that. Just an idea 💡. Hall effect version informational video. I think you could best do it justice on the internet 🌐 of things to be fair lol.
Argh so the magnet 🧲 & chip are at the top so through board trigger hall magnet interference is avoided more at a greater set distance 📏 😏 & they don't need to be curved magnets for the field ⚛️ trail off response curve results as long as 10.9% AVG Error is the target 🎯 over shoot. Hold on I wonder how they fair in an elite series 2 magnetic stick assembly 😂🤣😭, maybe initial interference there but it auto fixes itself 😱 amazing stuff I'm impressed. Well done sir I now know everything with brutal efficiency lol 🫡. (Note: I have my suspicions if you switch the pot sides between the PS4 & Xbox sets it's all the same 🫢🤫🤭, i can't confirm that possible observation of magnetic 🧲 polarity 🧭) Hmm 🤔 auto calibrating pots. You could use the silicone shaft anti wear tubes for 0.3mm tilt restriction for calibration setting purposes. It depends how aggressive the auto calibration is I suppose 🤷🏼♂️. Definite active error minimising in effect. Fool proofing is what you pay for. Good info 👍🏼.
Thanks, TBH I'm not that clued up on the geek side of TMR as I've been extremely busy. I'm always looking for robust and reliable parts. I like when a product "does what it says on the tin" and this is it. they are not cheap but you have to pay for quality.
Hello, at the end you said something about software. There is no software at all, you can get the same thing to happen with any other joystick, including pots. It is due to how the gamepad tester website works. You push the stick a little bit to an edge and then start turning it without it touching the edge. It causes a bit of green inner circularity because the website thinks that is as far as it can go. The website measures AVERAGE error. And if you make sure you push it all the way to the edge and then start turning, you will not get that green part. Instead, you started rotating while you moved it to the outer edge.
By the same logic, if you rotate it the other way, the direction where you see a green part, you get rid of that green part immediately and won't see it jumping like that
Just an observation and spit balling thoughts. Maybe Gamepad Tester website has been updated on the back end? I don't know. Either way I never said it was an issue. I did say these are the best solution out there and praised them because they are good, very good!
I would imagine there is some type of software on the TMR IC, again I don't know. That may or may not get confirmed from the manufacture. There is software in the MCU on the controller there could be some type of interpretation going on.
Again I don't know - just an observation.
You need some over shoot in the diagonals because some games require a more square outer range and some are more circular. If there isn't enough over shoot or at the least equal over shoot (error) the movement can be laboured.
It's not a software per say but there is correction algorithm in sticks, thinking it isn't the case is incorrect. Some algorithms are more aggressive than others, some can calibrated, some cannot but there is always algorithm at play of some kind. If there wasn't, you wouldn't be having a reliable experience at all.
They're probably talking about the chip on the board in the controller you can program them. I could be wrong cause I'm not watching all this I already fix electronics lol I'm actually adding RGB and clicky hair triggers to a version bdm-020 controller. My friend asked me if it's a good deal for like 180 for a working ps4 and I told her you do know I fix them right? Lol long story short I found her a ps5 disk version it's for her daughters B-day but my god these kits suck I been constantly filing or cutting at stuff to make sure the controller is smooth as can be amd won't mess up on her daughter. I got a 100$ pack of RGB LEDs that I was thinking of installing in the ps5 before I put the top screws on. Rn it's to the right of me on my motorized L desk. But yea I replace these all the time. I'm trying to find more ppl in Cincinnati that need electronic repair. "" if anyone is in cinty and need repair just look for my name on FB or my gamer tag RestingElf (I normally always take pictures of my work so I can show it off amd prove that o know and I can do the the work. Actually I remove HDMI ports and after my prep work when I put them down it's perfect 👌 all legs are down! (I still check with a multimeter though)
Towards the end when it went from 7-4% you can see that small green bar I'm thinking that is why, cause it whent down as soon as you went back over it so it might just be that the input was registered fast enough where it detected a not fully pueshed input faster than expected and got fixed when you went back over
Yeah I made a little mistake with that observation. It is totally normal. Does the same with standard ALPS analogs. It's normal. My mistake.
@@UberMicroRepairs Your mistake ruined my life. Now how can you fix it?
@@boredfive3001 🤣
Don't you think that it goes from 7% to 4/5% because when finalizing the circle, it replaces the old, incorrect starting value (the green zone visible at the start of the rotation) because you had started to rotate the stick before having reached the outer circle, by the new given because you finally show it the maximum fullness of this precise angle?
Given that you pay more attention to this the other times, that may be why he doesn't do it afterwards (you are careful to reach the edge completely before turning.
The stick may also very well have a defect which sends bad information at the micro second when you start to touch it given that this green zone seems to adopt exactly the same angle even if not the same amplitude.
Sorry, this is not a criticism and the precision of the sticks can allow us to see things that we would not suspect without and maybe I am completely wrong and you are doing exactly 100% the same movements during the first than the next and the stick tries to adapt on its own.
Anyway, thanks for this video. I would have been interested to see how this technology behaves on an Xbox controller given that it still uses a principle based on magnetic fields in order to know if there is no longer any problem of interference with the left trigger of the controller or if we remain condemned to having to solder the PCB provided by Jun Zeng or if even these PCBs work with it.
I would also like to know if these new potentiometers are adaptable to sticks from other brands if the GuliKit ones were not interesting or to be able to potentially put them on official Elite 2 sticks.
'ALL HAIL DUALSHOCK CALIBRATION GUI'. A lifesaver for calibration using software compared to using Jun Zeng hardware mod.
And yet it’s been included on the Switch since day one for anyone to check their controllers calibration. So much for Sony and Microsoft ey,
@@Spazza42 Nintendo is no hero either. They made Switch joycon an even worst design that drift within a year or heavy use. All of them are guilty of expecting the controller to become landfills sooner or later by using a potentiometer base joystick. The true heroes in this case are the modders like Jun Zeng, software like Dualshock calibration gui creator and all the third party joystick controller company that has Hall Effect. Another hidden heroes are all the TH-camrs who gives solution and tutorial on this matters. ALL HAIL THESE LIFESAVER!!
The software he's using would be dualshock-tools from github.
@@kklum6998Nintendo. Microsoft, Sony and a MAJORITY of controller manufacturers use the same faulty Alps Alpine Potentiometer Stick Modules.
They're actually only rated for 2 hours usage a day, at a total time span of 2 months.
iFIXIT has several articles on how bad stick drift gets on most controllers, and why they will always fail eventually. Anything past 2 months of minimal use is literally a hope an a prayer.
I just installed them on my scuf instinct pro and they work great I only have some jitter occasionally on the left stick kinda sucks that the scuf controller doesn’t have a way to be calibrated
fixed the jitter it looks like I forgot to solder 1 point and now it’s fixed
I was thinking of putting these on my scuf instinct as well, but as you said, there is no way for them to be calibrated. Did they seem to center and everything for you? I'm afraid that if they are off, I'm screwed. Thanks in advance!
Is the Instinct not compatible with the Xbox accessories app?
I had a glitch today when installing the Gullikit on the Elite 2 (third gamepad). It was the first case of this issue because it had been installed on two other controllers before, and everything was fine. I soldered both TMR potentiometers and connected only the board, without any magnets, and both moved to the right on their own (they didn’t react when moved in all directions). Calibration in Xbox Accessories didn’t help. When I replaced it with the Series controller, everything worked fine. But when I returned it to the Elite 2, it stopped working. Then soldering stock graphite and they are okay. Very odd. Any ideas???
I think I replaced two joysticks but my board is getting really discolored. I’m pretty new to using my hot air station, but what temp do you recommend putting it at. My station has temperature and speed f1-17. Looks like your board looks absolutely fine.
As others have stated previously, the result of the circularity on the left stick shows a higher average (the cones that have been filled vs the cones that are blank) until one complete rotation of the stick which will return the overall error rate. It's not software hocus pocus.
I placed my order. I had opted for a cheaper hall effect. But since there was a problem with the delivery, I decided to invest a little more and get this Gulikit TMR for Xbox. I'm going to install it on a wired 8bitdo. I checked where the gnd on sticks on the 8bitdo are, and it looks like I'll have the Xbox standard on one side and the other would be PS4 standard. In this case I'm going to reverse the magnetics to get the standard on one of the sticks.
I hope everything works out. They look like great quality hall effect sticks.
Good choice. These TMR sticks are very very good.
How did you place an order? I went to their TMR product page but I don't see an option for purchase
@@UberMicroRepairsguilikit vs ksilver TMR?
The website is down? It doesnt load for me it tells me to change browser any suggestions please help thanks
Hi, Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have noticed the site is a little slow and times out today. There is nothing from what we can see right now, we're looking into it with the hosting service.
If I may ask, what temperature was your heat gun at?
when I replaced my analog stick it has kinda a square gate instead of a circular one, is there anyway to make it a circle with software ?
you make desoldering and solder sucking look so easy!
With a good pump and hot Solder it is
Great video! Quick question: can you still use the original analog caps? Or they just won't fit anymore?
That’s my question too!!
What type of soldering tool would you recommend for a total beginner? I never soldered before but I want to try fixing my controller
Do the L3 R3 buttons work? There was an amazon comment saying it didn't work for them
yes they work and work very well. Slightly different detent to ALPS but nothing to worry about. Very responsive.
@@UberMicroRepairs Thank you!
For the whole slow mo parts looks to me like you never fully pressed the sticks over to start, then when you went over the initial start point made it jump down from 14
What is the joystick calibration tool called?
Great video! I've been incorporating Hall Effects into my controller builds based on your videos. These might get added to my arsenal.😊 Quick question: Do you have to use the metal thumbsticks that came with the kit, or can you swap for maybe interchangeable thumbsticks?
Glad I could help!
You can use any thumbsticks you like. I still use the original playstation ones myself 🫡
@@leonprez231 Thank you! ❤️🔥
I have found that the playstation ones sit too low, I have been using eXtremeRate Edge Sticks Interchangeable Thumbsticks for Xbox Core Controller and they work perfectly.
@@ControllerSupportedtoo low to an extent where it’s physically impeding? Or just an annoyance?
well, the mechanical drift is playable to be honest, but the resistance wearing off and causing drift even when you're centering the stick is what is bothering and is abnoctious, that I can't live with, or play with, because resistance degrade is a softer drift and is durable
Is there any info out there about response curve of these vs default?
Haven’t seen much info except one person saying it was different, something to do with stock joysticks having a higher speed up towards the edges among other things.
wanna find out if these are actually viable for FPS etc
Hi, do you have these in stock and would you install them as part of the your mail in service? Cheers
I put halleffect on Xbox SX controler, now it pulls up every time I press LT. How to fix that? The Gulikit TMR will fix that?
Yes TMR will fix that, because the magnet in your triggers is interfering (getting in range of) with the magnet sensor in the Hall Effect stick
What software do you use to calibrate the thumbsticks?
You can find on google. Just type ps5 dualsense calibration GUI.
Google DualShock Calibration GUI and it’ll be the first result.
could anyone explain how this is better for durability or stick drift? vs Hall Effect
There isn't any extra durability as such, What these TMR stick offer is correct range and response However the Hall effect stick we have been using exclusively offer the same feel. I guess time will tell.
@@UberMicroRepairsdo the TMR drift tho?
I also took part in the AKNES beta tests. I was seeing peoples results with low error rate and thought I was doing something wrong. Turns out my sticks, install was actually very good as both sticks are exact copies of each other. Both 7.2% error and are only out of the ring in the 4 diagnal positions. This was on my dualsense controller.
I've been trying to buy these but only the PS5 version are available. any ideas?
So which is better and last longer? Hall effect or TMR?
Can you do a tear down of the hex gaming phantom?
can they be fitted and calibrated in a dualsense edge?
DualSense Edge is not yet compatible with the calibration website. The developer of the website is working on it though
@@djBaro_official thats too bad. thank you
@@djBaro_officialWhat is the website?
Slow rotation clockwise & counter clockwise once will probably grant the largest outer Avg Error % for the best axis cross over on these I think 🤔.
Paired with 0.3mm thick silicone tube shaft protectors on the calibration process it may grant a greater final result once they are removed 😏.
Then you will know for sure if they auto refine the calibration via chipset on there final outer circularity 🫵🏼, job well done.
Do you recommend these sticks if I only play call of duty? Or should potentiometer be used?
hey man so tmr sticks are superior vs hall effect?
Have tried both, IMO TMR sticks are way more responsive around deadzone so yeah they are superior.
Are these compatible with calibration boards? I mean the ones also called "Anti-stick drift" boards.
Hi, i have astro a50 with the same problem that the video you did 1 year ago, in the website i cant find the headset repair, can you help me plss y want my astro working 😢
Drop us an email to enquiries@ubermicro.co.uk 👍
Can you try the k silver TMR ps5 sticks? They are new and there isn’t any info online about them. Seem like a great price compared to the gulikit Tmr option.
I just bought 5 pairs, can’t wait to test them out
Need a video on how to remove the dual sense headphone jack, no such video exists at the moment
I have Nacon Pro Revolution unlimited controller that I wanna mod technically it's a Ps4 controller with Xbox layout and I mainly use it on PC I curious if I can mod these onto them
I came across your videos recently and have really enjoyed them. I would love to learn how to solder, and was wondering if there is any beginner equipment or videos you would recommend? :)
Razer wolverine ultimate controller has broken joystick, can I replace it with Joytick Hall Effect, if you have videos it would be better
I hope in time people create better inproved hall effects
Could you kindly do a video of these on the dsedge? TIA
hey, i got my ps5 controller with busted rgb led. any idea where to find replacements?
Donor board is what I use for replacements.
I would like to see your review on Vader 4 Pro from Flydigi, it has a completely new type of Hall effect joysticks (magnets on the board itself, no centering spring, adjustable tension, etc...)
any way you can put kontrolfreeks/stick extensions on these?
Interesting to see if these can work in the dual sense edge with some modification
They do my friend. I know someone that has had it done 🫡
@@leonprez231niceee just what I was looking for . Hopefully @uber can verify
Ginfull V5 with the new Magnet Design or the GuliKit TMR Sticks ? Idk what i should use in Ps5
Either TBH.
go gulikit TMR
I have both and the ginfull feels a lot better. its smoother and has a little less tension. the gulikits feel stiff and jump worse when trying to micro adjust from center.
@@SlapsMcGaps I am rocking the GinFull V5 atm in my Ps5 Controller and i am absolutely loving them. Compared to the very first revision i had of them it’s actually a day and night difference. I will use them from now on in all my Ps4&5 Controller
@@nkls287 ginfull v5 best option?
Please talk to me about this circuit board holder I see you continuously use? Home made? Ply wood, and what are the holders made from? How did you chose the spacing between posts, are they adjustable? Also, your soldering skills are impeccable! What temp is your hot air at to clean the holes so easily?
so these are not magnetic? Potenciometer? What is this joystick.
It is magnetic but does not use the hall effect but something called tunnel magnetoresistance, so it is basically stil magnetic.
The advantage vs hall effect, if I got that right, is that they do not need some sort of translation like you need in some hall effect because they work at the same voltage range as the pots stick so they are basically a drop In replacement
Can you test the resistance in grams by chance?
Have you heard of the new HALLPI TMR sticks? I’ve been seeing them on aliexpress lately
Would also love to find out about these to!
@ they look like an unbranded Gulikit, I’ve seen a photo of someone already have them and even the box looks the same
Opinion on ginfull v5 dualsense sticks ?
Dualsense all day long. The other ones are slippery
Nice video, do you happen to have a link where I can buy those? I can't find them on sale, only on their official website.
I think they are all over Amazon / Aliexpress.
You all only service the UK correct?
I have repaired three controllers with gainful hall effects and every single one the right analog falls short of reaching full range at the top left. The same analog every time and the same area. Any ideas? Installing these in ps5 controllers. Calibration software doesn't help.
Try calibrating the sticks by yourself first, try getting them near center or to the side where you don't reach the full circulation, then calibrate them with the software, that's what helped me because I had the same issue now the circularity is near perfect
@@shpendlent I'm not quite sure how to manually calibrate them
@@hove131 Look it up on TH-cam, there should be a video, if not you can comment again then I will send you a video of how to do it without the website
@@hove131use the calibration software but instead of making circles to calibrate range, touch 4 edges of the circle in a plus shape. That will fix your issue. It will increase the percent error but as long at you get anywhere from 5-9% you’re fine. So you touch the top then let go of stick then the right and let go of stick then bottom then left. If that doesn’t help much, do the same plus shape but make a plus shape that’s centered more counter clockwise. That’s how I fix my controllers with that issue
@@mesmeriizek4441 I get closer to 15-20% error doing it that way but I do get full range. I ordered these analogs in the new v5 version. Maybe they'll be better.
Please can you make a Video for the xbox series controller and how they do if you calibrate them with the xbox app
Are you able to tighten these to be harder to move for fps games ?
These are the same as ALPS sticks mechanically, so you could install a higher spring rate. However I do not recommend to increase the spring rate in these types of analog module because the internal parts are made of plastic and wear out ALOT quicker inducing slop in the mech.
We see it a lot with Battle Beaver controllers where they put stupidly strong springs in the modules to the point of the module almost grenading!!
The only sticks that offer increased spring tension are the Elite 2 and they have metal parts where all the tension is concentrated.
@@UberMicroRepairs Do you know what springs they use (or dimensions)? I want to get a reduced tension one and swap it in...much appreciated!
Just installed a pair of these, recalibrated using the online program, was working perfectly on pc, connected to the ps5 & had to do a controller update so i did & it disconnected halfway through & bricked my controller, absolutely devastated😢
can you test joy delay ? its important too
How hot is the air gun
I have it at about 395 - 400c Takes a few seconds longer but helps not to heat scar plastic components.
@@UberMicroRepairs Thanks for the 3am answers i got everything ready now then wish me luck
Tmr vs ginfull v3, which wins?
Either TBH. The TMR may have faster response for nerds.
will it work with envision pro ?
Hello..can u pls tell me which soft ur using for centeration .
DualShock Calibration GUI
@@sporadic3684 sir I am not able to connect my PS4 controller on windows 8
@@JokerBatman-b7u Make sure you're using Chrome
I have the Xbox controller version 1708. GuIiKit TMR joystick on the way but I have to do manual calibration I guess. Xbox Accessories didn't work with my controller.
I'm way in over my head with all this tech babble. I just want to know if replacing the stock joysticks in my dualsense is worth it. My only soldering experience is replacing the batteries in ruby/sapphire. My dualsense controllers do not currently have any drift but with MH coming out in February i'm expecting to put a lot more hours on these controllers.
Love your videos, would love to see an Xbox elite series two video with this kit.
Thank you. I'll do an Xbox controller in the coming week.
shame i cant find them for sale in the uk
They’re on amazon
What app are you using to calibrate the joystick??
curious to know this too o.O
@@EugeneLiew search on google “dualshock calibration gui”
@@EugeneLiew DualShock calibration gui
Hi dear, how can we buy 2 digital analog sticks for more than 20 dollars?? What do we charge a customer for repairs? 100 dollars? The new dualsense can be found at 70 dollars, It's obvious that this is a modification and repair, but am I going to explain this to a customer? Really a lower price for these 2 analog sticks, isn't there?
Quality parts and quality work will pay for it's self.
@@UberMicroRepairs My friend, I agree with you that you pay for quality, but 20 dollars USD for 2 analogues from China not even super precise like ginfull at half of half the cost, which customer pays 60 dollars, or more, for this repair and modification of a new $70 dualsense? Most people don't even know what 2 analog sticks are... The quality thing I agree with you, but still 20 dollars USD 2 analogue from the factory in China is really exaggerated, if it was 10 dollars max per pair, ok! I could already think about it, but in my laboratory, at most there I install it on my joysticks... I don't know if you also pay 20 dollars USD per pair... It would already be good to find them for 10 dollars USD... 😉
3:38 "You don't want 0% error", is that sarcasm? Don't you want it closer to zero? I would love to understand. Thanks.
Would lead free solder be okay?
Would be fine, maybe not as strong as leaded solder but will be ok
@AdrianVegaOfficial I've had them in a couple weeks without calibration and I'm thinking now I should finally calibrate them, the 3rd party link to it on the gulikit website is asking for a PayPal payment but will not tell me the amount I will be paying which seems pretty untrustworthy. Can you remember how much u paid with the link and if it's safe??
Es compatible para duelsense edge?
Yo e tratado de buscar información sobre el dual sense edge pero nadie lo a probado todavía
I need dualsense edge modules for these
Emailed you about a repair not once got a reply
Hi, please email us again at enquiries@ubermicro.co.uk. We do reply to all emails and website enquiry forms. It may be that our reply has landed in your spam/junk folder? Thank you. :)
What is that calibration software/site?
Dualsens calibration github UI
Nice video man 👍🏾👊🏾
But are TMR's as reliable. Hall Effect is proven the most reliable, and havent even become the standard yet, are we really going to jump the gun to TMR even though there no telling how durable the tech is?
As far a TMR tech it's fine, same as Hall Effect. The main issue is the analog stick module suffering from wear & tear, e.g. the spring back mech.
@@UberMicroRepairs oh ok, well then sweet! From reading the explanations about TMR, it sounded as though it was using ferrofluid (which if leaked would destroy everything)
@@GhibliNova No, No ferrofluid in TMR sticks.
@@UberMicroRepairs awesome. Thanks for helping me! 😊
Yep, the "zero deadzone" people are clueless idiots. 100% agree with you that there is no such thing and it's not even a good experience to begin with, you always need a little bit bit of deadzone anyway for proper analog stick control as otherwise involuntary inputs on the sticks just from having your thumbs on them become a major problem.
I bought this for my PS4 controller and have no idea what it is.
Just use soldering tools for the first time. Never know anything about soldering before. It's pain.
Half day pass still learning. 😂
Can you do a video about the xbox controller with these sticks? They look interesting...but they are sold out on amazon.
Having a Gulikit controller, I have only one thing to complain about them. The travel for L2 R2 buttons is too short
In the UK these are currently on Amazon but at £15 + £5 shipping plus the hassle factor and unpredictability of the soldering, it seems better to buy their finished controllers. Damn grifters. Hopefully alibaba will sort their quality assurance out someday.
Supposedly, the tmr sticks don't have the re-entering spring, which is the one point of failure for he modules, so tmr should potentially last longer. But I haven't gotten mine yet, so not 100% sure and definitely looking forward to that xbox video.
I can confirm the mechanism is 110% exactly the same as ALPS, Scissor arms, plunger, spring and shaft are the same. Just got one under the microscope.
Supposedly? They are exactly the same inside mechanically as all other stock joysticks of that type (ALPS, Favor Union, K-Silver, Ginfull).
@@UberMicroRepairs They should use ginful as a base , it's just better build and it's smoother :/
I wish i didnt smash my kk3 max when the right tumb stick snapped now that these are out. Oh well
Can we see these in the edge please 👽
Please do a video about the Xbox ones
anyone with xbox elite one controller try this yet?
think thats just the game tester app as my standard sticks do the same called hocus pocus
PS3 controllers already had these sticks
TMR has 0 advantage over hall effect other than lower power consumption, thus lower thermals.
Will these work on an xbox controller?
Yes. Get the x box version
the only problem is that this TMR set costs more than a ps4 controller :)
They are only $7 a pair + shipping.
Great video!
Nice 👍
Thanks ✌
For your next vid, ide suggest you expose the chip & magnet 🧲 positions shapes 🤷🏼♂️?
Across all the pot types you can think of, I'm not buying them all just for that.
Just an idea 💡.
Hall effect version informational video.
I think you could best do it justice on the internet 🌐 of things to be fair lol.
Argh so the magnet 🧲 & chip are at the top so through board trigger hall magnet interference is avoided more at a greater set distance 📏 😏 & they don't need to be curved magnets for the field ⚛️ trail off response curve results as long as 10.9% AVG Error is the target 🎯 over shoot.
Hold on I wonder how they fair in an elite series 2 magnetic stick assembly 😂🤣😭, maybe initial interference there but it auto fixes itself 😱 amazing stuff I'm impressed.
Well done sir I now know everything with brutal efficiency lol 🫡.
(Note: I have my suspicions if you switch the pot sides between the PS4 & Xbox sets it's all the same 🫢🤫🤭, i can't confirm that possible observation of magnetic 🧲 polarity 🧭)
Hmm 🤔 auto calibrating pots.
You could use the silicone shaft anti wear tubes for 0.3mm tilt restriction for calibration setting purposes.
It depends how aggressive the auto calibration is I suppose 🤷🏼♂️.
Definite active error minimising in effect.
Fool proofing is what you pay for.
Good info 👍🏼.
Thanks, TBH I'm not that clued up on the geek side of TMR as I've been extremely busy. I'm always looking for robust and reliable parts. I like when a product "does what it says on the tin" and this is it. they are not cheap but you have to pay for quality.
software?? Where???? Full of shit dawg
Anything but dawg!