Why 30% of Serbian Football Clubs Could "Disappear"
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- Why 30% of Serbian Football Clubs Could "Disappear"
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This video is very good. Amazingly accurate considering you're not from here (?). I am a football coach and I work in Serbia in the same tier as OFK Beograd. I would just add a few more things that are contributing to the fact serbian football is disappearing as a whole:
1. People who run the clubs (boards) are in 98% of the cases people who are not "from football" - they come from other businesses and they make all the important decisions while having NO knowledge of how football works.
Also, the boards are in 90% of cases in the governening dictatorship party SNS and are licking asses in order to stay on their positions.
2. Coaching education is abysmal. Licensing courses are being conducted by failed coaches who have no job so they try to force themselves into FSS (Serbian Football Association) in order to make some money.
As a product you have terrible youth coaching,where less than 5% of coaches in our country work with kids the way they should.
3. FSS (Serbian Football Association) is run by a man that is on that position only because he is a close friend of serbian "president" Aleksandar Vučić and he owes him a favour. FSS president has no clue about football. Also, he is crooked. Almost 60-70% of matches in top3 tiers are fixed or at least the ref doesn't whistle 50-50. Fixing matches is probably the biggest problem.
4. Kids are spoiled. Never taught how to think and how to absorb informations. Never have their own opinions and then they become "slaves" rather than strong characters.
Cheers,and thanks for a video that treats this topic. We are dying to be heard in the world about our serious problems!
Који си ти цар
Seems like politics and sports are mixed everywhere in the world, even from where I'm from, Malaysia. Hopefully things will improve in the future.
@@Micfri300 They aren't. I've trained football for a long time here, it's all just talent. This country is filled with talent, but little work ethic, which is understandable given the conditions they are in. The only reason we have so many great players in so many sports (football, basketball, volleyball, tennis and so on) is just talent combined with the fact that playing sports here is pretty much a part of every day life (you'll find that even the nerdiest kids know how to play at least 1 sport fairly well).
@@mladenmilenkovic9279 You always get the rare cases of talent AND hard work. Novak Djokovic being one. One of the hardest workers in his sport. Only if his professionalism can be an influencing character for other upcoming athletes... especially in football.
Kids are spoiled? So, you want every kid to suffer, and live in poverty so they can develop a strong “hunger” become world class players? Is that what you want? You do realize this is CHILD ABUSE, are you OK with that for the love of the sport and passion of football?
You want kids to suffer and starve, living in poverty where health cost too much for football?
Kids are not allowed to live their life and become slaves for football?
Is that what you want?
RIP Illja Petkovic 🙏
Thank you for recognising our problem in Serbian football, we all hope Ofk and Rest of our football won’t be dissolved 💙🇷🇸
cancerous country
Flop Says the guy with Maximiliamus profile pic.
Serbia is such a talented sports nation. And produces great players. Hope things work out for the better. A shame what happened to Youguslavia.
Your Senpai Unfortunantley Yugoslavian nations are suffering a downfall...
Kind of the same situation is going on in Romania, but yours is worse. I'm sad to see clubs with such big history going through such hard times due to financial problems. Hope the situation will get better. Greetings from your neighbors 🇷🇸♥️🇷🇴
The fact that Tifo never runs out of amazing ideas is an achievement of itself
I mean they're clearly running out of sponsorship ideas
It's football bro, not exactly gonna stop anytime soon
matheus boëtius they aren’t sponsored by The Athletic, they’re owned
Tifo: "Serbian football clubs could disappear... But you can find them on The Athletic for 30% off"
Thats actually quite a smooth transition.
Balkans are a big mine of great football talent. Just look how many Serbian, Croatian or Bosnian players roam all European leagues.
Most of bosnian quality footballers are diaspora players. We're miles behind the likes of HNL and Superliga. This is why you'd often hear here that Dzeko could've been a world beater had he been developed in a good academy with solid facilities and not in war torn Sarajevo. Furthermore, our best young prospects are handed out to 2nd division turkish and greek leagues where they fade away into irrelevancy and just play "for wages" for a safe retirement. Future isn't looking great either, with our league coefficients dropping rapidly, which isn't a surprise since we never had a team in european elite competitions (UCL, EL).
Overall, this is why we mostly fear for the future of our NT and hope that our prospects keep getting scouted by Dinamo Zagred (Amer Gojak being one) and hope that promising players like Omeragić and Gigović don't become the next Zlatan.
@@comfee Still Džeko was a brilliant player, the first to ever score 50+ goals in 3 of the Top 5 European Leagues
@@comfee And Pjanić is also a very big talent, but I'm not sure what will happen now that he's gone to Barca
@@resavaccc dzeko is 34 , he can continue till 2022 , I m roma fan
Now imagine if Yugoslavia stayed in some way so that they could have one national team, especially in 2018 🤯
No wonder there's so many expectations on Luka Jovic to succeed at Real Madrid. Definitely has the qualities to shine at the elite level and he could help promote Serbian football. His attitude outside the pitch messed up his reputation with the club.
@Kuromori The same Benzema who has played a pivotal role in Real's turnaround scoring 26 goals and 10 assists to his name, while guiding Real to their first La Liga title in how long? And whom are arguably favourites against City despite being a goal down.
I want Jovic to be good, even if I hate Real. But you're talking out of your ass. Jovic needs to grow the fuck up, or he'll be playing for a Europa League club again in the next few years.
@@LoCoAde87 hate to say it but i agree with you. Being Serb, i want to see our players succeed, but the actions Jovic has done has really hindered his finish. I really hope he can focus on his football like he did in Frankfurt
There's talk of him going to Newcastle now.
@Kuromori blind? benzema has been one of the best forawrds in the world
I remember when Jovic played for Red Star about 4 to 5 years ago...he was vicious he scored goals like raindrops
That's my next football manager save confirmed then.
Football economics is just a house of cards isn't it. Especially at those lower levels.
Not just at the lower levels. UEFA Financial Fair Play Regulations were meant to preclude such failures, but...
Raheel X it’s what happens when u have ridiculous spending and open leagues that heavily penalise failure
RD 12 so you should be penalised for failure, just as you should be rewarded for success and good management on and off the pitch. What you’d prefer a closed shop model only for the elite?
Ok, so you expect players to play for FREE? Who’s going to feed the family? Pay the bills?
No one is gonna play for free if that means it won’t provide the family, you do know that right?
bumdog
Yes, because players should play for FREE and play for passion for the sport and NOT provide their family food because food cost money, right?
Yes, all players are not allowed to get paid so they can feed their family. They can make money elsewhere right?
Smh
Thanks for doing this! I come from an OFK family, so seeing them in slowing die has been very sad. Even in 2006 when I went to watch a game, their once beautiful stadium was crumbling. I hope they survive.
Nema nista od toga, Voždovac je veći od vas i ostaje sada do večnosti.
@@Cofimaslisa Haha Voždovac nikada nije bio veći klub, OFK su uništili upravo Terzić i slični, a najgore što su ti koji su ga uništili nagrađeni od režima i sada vode Zvezdu (tj. kradu, tek će se kad oni odu videti koju rupu su ostavili). Fudbal je kod nas totalno pravno neuređena zona, nema ni bilo kakve smislene kontrole finansijskih tokova od strane države, a ogromne pare država ulaže jer bukvalno finansira svaki klub u državi (čak i ove profesionalne što je apsurdno).
@@carick235 Zato i jeste Vozdovac veci klub, em sto je stariji, em nije lopovski :)
Just remember that Kosovo is Serbia🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
Gde je sad Vozdovac a gde OFK 😉
Hi, Croatian national television "HRT" used your footage in their programe, I don't know if they had your approval, just want to point that out
classic HRT
can confirm
oh, what footage?
Kada i u kojoj emisiji?
Jel ima neki video od toga na ovaj youtube?
Good job man, greeetings from 🇷🇸
this is actually so sad with even Petkovic dying at the end
Then again, he deserved it.
Sorry? What did you said?
Yea i didn't know he died. Even more shattered..
CivilServant95 why?
@@civilservant9528 Deserved for what? What did he do that was so bad for him to deserve death
I don't understand why there are so many illustrations in the Russian language. And why Kosovo is shown as an independent country, while Montenegro is not?!
When it comes to OFK Beograd, the situation is rather depressing. It is the oldest and most beloved football club in Belgrade, by neutrals at least. Unfortunately, a few days ago, the legendary Petkovic died (not from COVID 19 though) and it seems as this legendary club is dying at the same time.
It should be mentioned that while the club was living it's best years in the latest period, the president was a person accused of various frauds and crimes, being on the Interpol warrant list. The same person, Zvezdan Terzić, is the current president of Red Star Belgrade.
Needless to say, politics and crime have a huge part in Serbian football (and sports in general), and nothing seems to be even close to change while the people in charge take the profit from it.
I also don't understand why Monenegro is missing.
The history of OFK is really sad, but hopefully they will survive. It is very sad to see how the reality in all the countries of former Yugoslavia is nowadays. In Croatia is no competition anymore, Bosnia and Herzegovina's best clubs can't motivate the people to come to the games, FK Budocnost is to big for the league in Montenegro...so many problems and no chance to get out of this misery.
Because Kosovo is an independent country. There.
@@Hephaestion96 Yes, but Montenegro too.
@David JR doesn't matter what the UN says.
And Vojvodina is indipendet acordin to the map from this video...
Video on why rival teams are often red and blue, so many examples. It's even in boxing! Machester, Liverpool, Sheffield, London and abroad such as Rome. Is this chance or is there something behind it?
I would guess that it's to do with them being primary colours that contrast well (better than say red v yellow or blue v yellow) and being easy to find in nature (and therefore to make dyes with).
The red v blue contrast isn't just limited to sport. It's in everything, from political parties to poetry (roses are red, violets are blue...). So it might also relate to how our monkey brains just perceive red and blue to be opposites. Red = hot, fire, anger; Blue = cold, water, calm.
Not so much London. Spurs are Chelsea's and Arsenal's biggest rivals, red and blue just don't care as much about each other. It is one of the exceptions to the rule though, I understand your point.
Porto and Benfica from Portugal
also inter and milan
Internacional and Grêmio from southern Brazil Also
You could basically say same thing about Slovakian MSK Zylina. One of top clubs, great academy, also living from transfers, also collapsed due to post Covid financial hit
Petrzalka!
OFK was collapsing for few years. COVID is just last nail.
Could you do a video on the alarming financial situation of Turkish clubs?
This would be a nice topic to cover!
They did 2 like a year ago. Did the situation evolved since?
My club, Eskişehirspor, is going to shit, so I'd love this video
There’s that İstanbul Başakşehir or whatever it’s called that’s allegedly bankrolled by Erdogan.
@@briansergeant just call it erdogan fc
Remarkable, nostalgic and sad analysis of the history of a league the main-stream sports media doesn't really care about or cover despite the plethora of talent that has come from teams like OFK, Vojvodina Novi Sad and others.
OFK Beograd played in 1963 old cup UEFA semifinals vs Tottenham
I've trained football at OFK Beograd when I was a kid. That club will always have a special place in my heart. It's so sad what has happend to it.
As Serbian follower of this channel since 2016, I love to see videos about Serbian football. You made couple mistakes (incomplete map of Serbia, Russian letters, that Metalac crest belongs to club from Gornji Milanovac which is not related to OFK Beograd) in this video but the main point is correct and clear to understand.
2:40 actually, the shield of Metalac you put is wrong because it is from another Metalac (from Gornji Milanovac) which will play in Superleague this season and has nohing to do with OFK.
Of all your great videos this one is one of the best!Thank you Tifo!
tifo : many clubs are going to disappear beacause of the covid crisis
also tifo @ 7:11 : WITH FOOTBALLFINALLY BACK TIFO IS DELIGHTED TO OFFER DAY FREE TRIAL!
Well done man, you have a true worldwide football knowlege .Impressive , keep it up with a good work ;)
3:25 "The romantics" are OFK fans and "the builders" are FK Rad fans
construction workers*
@@patrickwilding7619 tomato tomato
Great video. Thanks for talking about this.
This Video is so well writen with all Informations and insiders, WOW !
Keep it coming, love these video ideas!
Really good graphics for this one! Keep up the good work
Logo of Metalac that was shown in 2:40 has nothing to do with Metalac associated with OFK Belgrade. It is a logo of Metalac from Gornji Milanovac, that played in Serbian 2nd tear in 2019/20 and is now promoted to our top tier.
Great Video, I would never know the situation in the 3rd tier of Serbian football league if it wasn't for this video.
Some Serbian teams will be gone, but new ones are born, like TSC in Vojvodina, really good run and professional young team.
Like fresh air in Serbian football, they even got into Europe on their first year in the top Serbian league.
TSC played first season well, but in 2-3 years will be back in their deserved place, just a lucky season
Tsc isn't new team, it's exactly more than 100 years old...
They were not “born”, they are bankrolled by Viktor Orban and the Hungarian gov’t as a community engagement tool to appease the ethnic Hungarians in the Vojvodina region. A modern day revival with political undertones has seen TSC thrive, and i disagree with the above statement by Cofi; they’re doing very well in season 2 at the top, he must be a Partizan fan! :)
@@ilijatrojanovic8619 I'mSerb but i'm finr with Hungarian gov investing in Hungarian community in Serbia, they built great football academy and their new stadium is under construction. I just don't like some nationalistic banners and chants coming from TSC fans, it doesn't represent Hungarians in Vojvodina province in good picture since most of Hungarians are real patriots both for Serbia as their homeland and Hungary for ethnic reason and they don't care about such political bullshit and don't want any divide.
carick235 I don’t disagree. What they’ve accomplished is very impressive and they have a top manager. They’re also trying to create a scene on the terraces which is always a pleasure to see. Nenad Lukic and Vladimir Siladji - to name only a few - have been some of the best players in the league, I hope to see them in the best 11 for 2019-20 Superliga, or at least one of them.
1:48 "Bankrolled by a viscous Korea gangster"
Me: What the hell's a Korean gangster doing in Serbia?
Also me after reading the words on screen: Ah I see, my last 2 braincells must have headed out"
Videos on Valeriy Lobanovski, Ralph Rangnick, Juan Manuel Lillo, Jock Stein, Cesar Luis Menotti, Bilardo or a tactics video on Zdenek Zemen would be amazing if you could do them guys!
love the channel and the video ! Maybe have a look at how Crvena Zvezda is pronounced haha
Vratiće se Beograd!
Kad se vrati Kralj...
@@karadjordjekaradjordjevic7809 A to je nikad, pozdrav sa krova
@@Cofimaslisa Nikad ne reci nikad... kad umru komunjarska govna, bice....
Amazing video
Thank you very much for making video on Serbian Football.... Its very interesting and well displayed. Keep up the good work Tifo and thanks for loving Serbia!
My favorite football youtuber made video about my country, I can't beleive! Long life Tifo!
I am litearally impressed by your video, thanks a lot. There is a few wrong maps there, but since this channel isn't about history or geography, it is ok. However, the only thing I have to correct, sorry for that, is the thing that you have shown actually wrong Metalac. That is the emblem of Metalac from town called Gornji Milanovac, it exists today, even more it will play Serbian Super Liga next season.
Could you do a video about the situation in Bulgarian football where there're 2 CSKAs?
@Marko Marin search it up it's complicated
@@ilkobliznakov2609 i can only find that there was a cska sofia II, but it was disolved a couple of years ago, so could you just briefly explain, or post a link about it ?
thanks in advance
My club, we will live!💙🤍
Samo trunite u ligama u kojima pripadate, kad ni od nameštanja ne možete opstati, pozdrav sa Voždovačkog krova
@@CofimaslisaReci do svojim navijacima, Invalidi I Plava Unija su bratski klubovi, gledacemo se I na Karaburmi i na krovu..
@@minjajovanovic6501 nek trunu i ofka i rad i svaki klub iz bg
Incredible Content!
Guysss you are sooo good, I am from Gornji Milanovac and Metalac is my hometown club and I didn't know this, thank you a lot
Ajdeee
Great video
Why you dont recognise Vojvodina and Kosovo as parts of Serbia?
Because Kosovo dont belong to Serbia.Its a seperate country. I know you know it already :)
@@vuvuzele7476 Muslimančino ne seri
Because they aren't you warlord :)
Why you get trigerred when I wrote 100% legit facts. Historically and politically.
Well thank you for making my fm21 save :) that's gonna be fun
Hate to break it to you but unless something has changed in the last few games there is no third Serbian league there, only the first two.
@@nemangame theres always XML thar brings more divisions, because theres no Brazilian Serie D, and I played with it, in older editions of FM.
nemangame you can just download a database, I have one that puts every league in the game with all its divisions it’s absolutely nuts. The download said it puts 200+ countries with all the tiers
nemangame Also I checked last night and it’s there
@@brysenfamularo6995 cool man, have a nice game, hopefully you can play in Europe with them
Could you make a video on why kepa has been so poor this season for Chelsea?
attitude i would guess , when a player refuses to come off he clearly thinks he is better than the team tactics / managers wishes this would imply he doesnt listen to training advice unless he thinks its beneficial to him which means he has to be truly gifted to be world class and most are not
Probably hasn't actually progressed since coming from bilbao
Hey. In Belgium I saw your video on article. I saw a similar comment from a different country. Is this by your permission. The article company is Sporza
I think it would be benefitial for a yougoslavian championship to return
It would mean more money and competition to football teams on that region
Very, very good effort, apart from a couple of appalling mistakes with flags, but we'll get over it.
Great effort, in the end!
Ofk isnt BSK! Bsk ad you said was dissolwed in 1945 and OFK was previously called Metalac and then changed name because the president of Metalac was a fan of former BSK. But that doesnt mean OFK can take BSK history.
Yes, I think if they took it, they should have the old shirts and logo as well.
This is a very sobering piece.
While many would see football as just a game it has evolved into a massive industry and like most, is severely affected by this pandemic and can have disastrous effects for many.
It wouldn't be nice to watch those at risk clubs suffer then disappear. Although life involves loss it would be good for some kind of innovation/intervention to occur which saves some of thse institutions.
Good content again Tifo.
A video about NK Olimpija and Milan Mandarič would be interesting, how he forces success without any time for the players and manager to get a proper effect
Question: I live in the United States so not sure if that is why, but I don’t see a 30 day free trial for The Athletic. I only have a 7 day free trial option. Can anyone help?
found my new fm save i guess
Which app do you guys Alice Devine and Craig Silock use to illustrate
30% of the Serbian Teams: *Fifa, I don’t feel so good*
European football needs some serious kind of revenue sharing for the smaller leagues and lower flights. FFP may prevent some clubs from going bankrupt, but with so much revenue concentrated at the top end of the sport, it's really hard for smaller teams to compete or turn a profit.
4:26 But that isn't true? France exports just twice as many players but their population is 9 times bigger? Argentina's population is 40 million, too.
They don't export more players per capita than Serbia, do they?
Lol you put logo of FK Metalac from Gornji Milanovac (town in central Serbia), which is playing Superliga now, it's not Metalac you mention in the video.
Is anyone going to talk about the map at 3:40 min, that says murder sea instead of northern sea and death sea instead of baltic sea, but in german?
easter eggs
France 67 million people - exports 1027, Argentina 45 million people - exports 972, Serbia 7 million people - exports 521. How is France and Argentina more per capita, what am I missing?
Dear Tifo, thanks for great content once again. Please, one correction, hopefully the mistake was not on purpose: Montenegro, today also an indepentent state, comprised the Yugoslavian post war state next to the other 6 republics 👍🏻👋🏻
Hey Tifo! Could you do a video on the Indian football scene? Tia
Are you sure that Argentina and France export more per capita? Can you please link the source?
U might wanna check that map of yours, i think u are slightly off 😁😁, beside that, good video
plz make video about tottenham hotspur’s new tactics
3:36 - 3:45 Sounds like Portugal... but the clubs here sell to the big ones who them sell them to foreign clubs with an higher price.
I'd like to see more videos about these countries.
Ajmo Srbi !!! Thanks for showing a part of our footballing culture.
A dark, dark video. I still find transfer fees more pleasant to look at when they are small.
Not sure if its been covered but maybe worth looking at whats happening in LigaMX right now, the fifth most watched league in the world and fundamental changes happening
OFK Beograd got promoted to the Serbian Superliga (1st division) btw
The exports per capita seems very wrong. If it's just the number of exports on screen divided by population there's no way Argentina and France export more, but Croatia does
Lol never have i thought of seeing arkan on a tifo video
Great video, but too many russian background pictures :)
1:24 Yugoslavia broked up on 6 republics. You showed 8. Wtf?!
pojma nemam sto su odvojili vojvodinu, malo bolesno
kosovo jos i ajde jebiga
Pa sta se cudite oni ni svoju geografiju ne znaju :D
Just one thing, Red Star Belgrade is not successor of SK Jugoslavija. It's completely different club formed from the "scratch" in 1945.
Also Red Star didn't take anyone's stadium. They built Rajko Mitic (Marakana) on the ground of SK Jugoslavija, that's the only connection but they are two different things.
It probably would be beneficial that some bigger clubs helped a bit financially to keep serbian leagues afloat since serbia produces that much talent.
wtf tifo does stuff all over the world it's impressive
You did your homework well. In recent years there is a trend of big local clubs disappearing. For example, in my hometown (Čačak) there was a club, founded in 1926 called Borac. They were a top tier club, and even famously played against Ajax in the Europa League qualifying round, some 15 years ago. Because of their large debt, the club was dismantled a few years ago. Main sponsor said that the citiy officials are too corrupted, taking advantage of the club, and laundering money, and this was the reason they pulled out, and it was a big car company (Škoda). So, after the club was gone for good, they bought a local 4th tier club, and changed its name to Borac 1926, and now are making their way back to the top tier. Something like Parma did, maybe, only Parma's former players didn't go on a hunger strike in front of the city council because they were never payed, and have no legal basis to have their money, because the club that they played for simply doesn't exist on paper anymore. And UEFA's hands are tied. And the mayor won't even see them. And we can't oust the mayor, because elections are brutally fixed in Serbia. Hard times...
1991 uefa champions league final was a match that change serbian football
hi tifo football can you please do a video about africa only gets 5 spots for the world cup.
Make a video on johan cruyff playing styles as a player
Why do you have so much russian in the background images though?
Make a video about what's wrong with Barca!
same things with romanian teams...Steaua Bucuresti ,champion of Europe in 1986 ,just promoted now in the third league ,they were in the 4th league
Titos twins - Partizan and Red Star - have a monopoly over Serbian football. Club that you did not mention is Vojvodina- Novi Sad.
Oh c'mon, you didn't mention the 4th Belgrade club - FK Zemun... Gave the likes of Mateja Kezman, Vladimir Stojkovic, Nenad Milijas, Dejan Lekic... Mance, Ninkov, Lalatovic
Many clubs in Bulgaria could also disappear in the near future.
Really good!
We, (ex-yu people), are so talented for football, but our scouting today is so sad and we are so corrupted. The most talented players still plays in 3trd or 2nd league while some son whose dad is rich or famous playing in Partizan or CZV.
It is sad that clubs can't be privatised. Jadranska liga could help strenghten all sides and bring back great football to this region. IMO
Does Red Star and Partizan have privatize?
@@geraldclydeabella3350 Nah, they are in the hands of the state. So, when Tadic was president Partizan was strong, now vucic is dictator and Red Star is strong. They are fans of those clubs.
Great map in 3:43 for people who understand German. :D Thank you for this amazing video, I would like to watch more videos about former Yugoslavian football.
Re: UEFA solidarity payments, do the clubs get paid based on how much time they spent developing said player? For example, if the player was at Club A for 5 years, and Club B for 1 year, would Club A get more money from a sale?
If im not mistaken it does work this way. Money is divided based on years spent developing at a particular club.
The clubs get a specific % of the transfer fee for every year they developed the player. But the % changes with the age of the player (when he was developed at the former club)
ngl that title sounds like a threat lol
TIFO could you please make a video on the Ballon d'Or vs the FIFA Player of the year award? People always assume the Ballon is the best prize yet they've made so many dumb decisions and throughout history, the FIFA POTY award has been more accurate with their choices, for example:
1996 FIFA POTY - Ronaldo vs 1996 Ballon d'Or - Matthias Sammer
2001 FIFA POTY Luis Figo vs 2001 Ballon d'Or - Micheal Owen
2003 FIFA POTY Zidane vs 2003 Ballon d'Or - Pavel Nedved
2004 FIFA POTY Ronaldinho vs Ballon d'Or Shevchenko
Clearly, just off these examples alone, it's easy to see that the FIFA POTY is more credible and reliable in terms of picking the best player so why do some many people still hold the Ballon d'Or to a higher standard?
So sad that 74yo Petković died in Belgrade after complications from a burst ulcer RIP :(
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