Some people use All Weather tires as their winter setup and have either All Seasons or Summer tires as their main set of tires for most of the year for best performance and road trip efficiency.
Tire temperature is the key. Tire compounds loose grip below their glass transition temperature, about 40 F for mild climate tires. Winter tires have silicon dioxide blended into the tread. When rubbed, you’ll note a gritty sticky feel. Summer tires will feel smooth and slick. Jason at Engineering Explained covers these topics in detail in his Cross Climate 2 review. Here in the 757 winter temperatures range from 30 to 50. Morning lows need a winter tire. Evening return home is on the warm side for them so they’ll wear faster than normal.
Studs? Seems like you could do more regenerative braking during winter but noise and tire wear might be terrible..? Also have heard about sensors going berserk and beeping all the time in winter when they are covered. Live in CO mountains on dirt road with steep driveway. Have two RAV4’s with studded hakapalitta 10’s and fly by struggling vehicles all winter. I love Nokkian!!! Wanting to switch to EV before end of year, but having a hard time finding videos and data on ev vehicle comparisons in winter driving conditions.
I have the R5's on my Model 3LR and drive on poorly maintained winter roads regularly. They are excellent! I also find them very quiet compared to other winter tires I've used. I wasn't able to get the EV version, but if noise is the only improvement I'd say they're probably not worth the extra $$$. If you're driving a Model 3 anyway 😂. At highway speed, the wind noise on my 22 3LR easily exceeds the tire noise. The door seals are terrible. Especially in colder temps. It's truly an embarrassment when I have passengers with me. 🙄
stock continentals on our MY were trash for snow. vredestein all weathers now and for the 2 days of snow we get, they were significantly better. otherwise zero difference.
Honestly even on an EV getting dedicated winter tires is a waist of money for the overwhelming majority of people even in areas where they get snow. I’d go so far as to say even all wheel drive in a lot of areas isn’t needed. If you are in a mountainous area like Colorado it can be a must but if you are in the Midwest where it’s mostly flat, not so much. I’ve been driving since 1988 & I’m from Chicago, I’ve lived in Michigan for a time & Germany for a few years, all places that get a lot of snow. In my experience if you live in a urban area (even suburban) all you really need is a good set of all weather tires & front wheel drive is designed for just the type of conditions you will be driving in. These areas do a 1000x better job at clearing the roads than they used to when I was a little kid. Lastly, you did forget to mention the most important thing to get longer life out of your tires which is to rotate them every 7-10 thousand miles, which ever is recommended by the manufacturer. I realize that tires will wear faster on an EV however you can significantly extend the life of those tires, EV or not, by rotating them.
Some people use All Weather tires as their winter setup and have either All Seasons or Summer tires as their main set of tires for most of the year for best performance and road trip efficiency.
Tire temperature is the key. Tire compounds loose grip below their glass transition temperature, about 40 F for mild climate tires. Winter tires have silicon dioxide blended into the tread. When rubbed, you’ll note a gritty sticky feel. Summer tires will feel smooth and slick. Jason at Engineering Explained covers these topics in detail in his Cross Climate 2 review.
Here in the 757 winter temperatures range from 30 to 50. Morning lows need a winter tire. Evening return home is on the warm side for them so they’ll wear faster than normal.
Using a summer or all season tire is possible here but winter tires shave a car length off a Highway emergency stop.
Studs? Seems like you could do more regenerative braking during winter but noise and tire wear might be terrible..? Also have heard about sensors going berserk and beeping all the time in winter when they are covered. Live in CO mountains on dirt road with steep driveway.
Have two RAV4’s with studded hakapalitta 10’s and fly by struggling vehicles all winter. I love Nokkian!!! Wanting to switch to EV before end of year, but having a hard time finding videos and data on ev vehicle comparisons in winter driving conditions.
All Weather tires= Running/Walking shoes; Winter tires=Hiking boots
Better comparison would be “trail running” shoes vs heavy hiking boots
Thank you for explaining that you don't have to use EV specific tires on EVs and what to expect regarding wear differences.
Curiously the ID.4 and Q4 e-tron have rear drum brakes despite qualifying as “modern”
I have the R5's on my Model 3LR and drive on poorly maintained winter roads regularly. They are excellent! I also find them very quiet compared to other winter tires I've used. I wasn't able to get the EV version, but if noise is the only improvement I'd say they're probably not worth the extra $$$. If you're driving a Model 3 anyway 😂. At highway speed, the wind noise on my 22 3LR easily exceeds the tire noise. The door seals are terrible. Especially in colder temps. It's truly an embarrassment when I have passengers with me. 🙄
stock continentals on our MY were trash for snow. vredestein all weathers now and for the 2 days of snow we get, they were significantly better. otherwise zero difference.
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Honestly even on an EV getting dedicated winter tires is a waist of money for the overwhelming majority of people even in areas where they get snow. I’d go so far as to say even all wheel drive in a lot of areas isn’t needed. If you are in a mountainous area like Colorado it can be a must but if you are in the Midwest where it’s mostly flat, not so much.
I’ve been driving since 1988 & I’m from Chicago, I’ve lived in Michigan for a time & Germany for a few years, all places that get a lot of snow. In my experience if you live in a urban area (even suburban) all you really need is a good set of all weather tires & front wheel drive is designed for just the type of conditions you will be driving in. These areas do a 1000x better job at clearing the roads than they used to when I was a little kid.
Lastly, you did forget to mention the most important thing to get longer life out of your tires which is to rotate them every 7-10 thousand miles, which ever is recommended by the manufacturer. I realize that tires will wear faster on an EV however you can significantly extend the life of those tires, EV or not, by rotating them.
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Can you guys, at least, wash your Tesla?