Fun fact: Did you know that the Winged Dragon of Ra's support card "Blaze Cannon" is a Volcanic card? Its text reads "This card is also treated as "Blaze Accelerator" card
I think the reason why Hero is the biggest archetype is because A) Theres a lot of inspiration you can pull from such as Marvel, DC, Kamen Rider, Power Rangers and so on B) It was one of Kazuki Takahashi's favourite archetypes (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) and as any TCG creator would do if they had a personal favourite, you give it a whole bunch of support. Takahashi is basically a custom card creator but whatever he makes is legal lol
The worst part is, not every Hero has been printed. There are still manga/anime exclusive cards like Clay Guard and potentially cards that should exist by definition like Evil Hero counterpart of many monsters Jaden used. It doesn't have to be every Elemental Hero, since certain Fusion Monsters have materials Supreme King did not have in his deck, but an Evil Hero counterpart of it, which has unique Fusions of itself.
Honestly I was waiting for the Pendulum Super-type to go in with the Performapals. Since Performapals are so closely related to Magicians, Odd-Eyes, Performages and Supreme King cards, that alone puts them in at or around 200 cards. And that doesn't factor in generic Pendulum Support, Duelist Alliance, Majespecters, Dracoslayers/Overlords and all the other nonsense that works in that silly deck. If Yu-Gi-Oh had a "Commander" format, that'd be my deck of choice, given how many options I'd have.
Is actually really complex you have cards that support any card with pendulum in the name or text, cards that support pendulum dragon, cards that support many archetype at the same time like joker, cards that support dark spellscaster, cards that support magician cards even if they aren't pendulum magician
If you want to count card lores as a single archetype well… The latest one, surrounding the mysterious Visas Starfrost, has 61 cards currently released over 4 specific archetypes and lots of Visas support. Then there’s the fan-favorite World Legacy lore, with 8 named archetypes within, totaling 124 cards currently (which includes the recent Vespar Girsu). Following that is the Abyss lore mentioned in the video, with 10-ish archetypes and related card arts totaling 168 cards from what I’ve seen. But the big daddy is the Duel Terminal lore: A confusing and convoluted story plot split across 3 generations and spanning around 27 archetypes and many generic cards with artwork related to it. I did my best counting all those, and I have a total of 754 cards!
If we're gonna discuss Chaos, we can't neglect Dragon pile decks. Its without a doubt the longest enduring strategy, with the modern day iteration being Dragon Link.
Heroes being the biggest archetype with the conventional definition is fitting, because heroes are the very first archetype that popularized the idea of archetypes, which later became the bread and butter of konami, sure the harpie ladies were the first, and some would say toons were the first to popularize it, but archytyping decks didn't catch up after harpies, and toons aren't an archetype by conventional means
there actually are lore connections in old archetypes while not directly connected Armed Dragons singlehandedly create an abomination. They are the nexus for Ojamas, Metaphys(which add nepthys) and Hero have their own cross Archetype in NecROID shaman adding all the Roid cards into the pool. Ojamasimilation is also technically Aleister support and if Roid's don't have a connection to Cyberdragon somehow Ojamas fix that bridge too. although if we were counting cards like that Original Sinful Spoils probably has some funky connections.
@@tcoren1 dont worry Schieren's effect will put her and your gf back into the deck to fuse kitkallos, so not only do you get both of them back you'd also get a bonus kitkalos
The biggest deck in history goes to the pair calling themselves the delinquent duo who showed up to a tournament with a deck containing more than 2000 cards... Wait what do you mean we're talking about archetypes
The abyss lore reprint set coming to the OCG has 202 cards, placing at about 60% of hero support. It has 197 reprints, 4 alt arts, and 1 new card (not sure if the alt arts are in addition to or instead of the reprints). Worth noting that current counts of abyss lore cards fall below those numbers, implying a few "stealth lore cards" that fell through the cracks. I bet golden nova is gonna get the last laugh with his "mysterion the dragon crown" prediction
There's also stuff like "the black goat laughs" and "million-year ice prison" that are clearly in the abyss story from their artwork but they have generic effects not directly related to any archetype in the lore.
Back in like 1999 their was 1 tournament where 1 players deck had like 2000+ CARDS in it that's why as soon as that tournament ended Konami FORCED a 40 or 60 cards DECK limit even if the Archetype has way MORE then 60 cards for the deck your playing.
Archetypes didn’t exist in 99 and the 2 guys were judges who wanted to prove a point that a deck can be too large to play with and they did as they got Konami to change the deck size to 40-60 cards
Chaos was a bit cheating the way you brought it up saying any light or dark if it was any light or dark that needed to be summoned by banishing a card or had chaos in the name I would had been for it and think it would had still beaten heros
The thing is yugioh community uses archetype and theme wrong a lot. Like for instance red-eyes has zombies in its archetype but those zombies are not part of the red-eyes theme just part of the red-eyes series. Dragon rulers are specifically dragon and attribute specific support as they arent a "real" archetype/theme as they have no real support
@@Someguy565 idk, they have tons of cards for xyz, links, pendulum, fusion, and synchro, if you make a d/d/d deck you can basically do it with any kind of extra deck
Fun fact: Did you know that the Winged Dragon of Ra's support card "Blaze Cannon" is a Volcanic card? Its text reads "This card is also treated as "Blaze Accelerator" card
Do we know why?
@@matiaspereyra9392 Because Blaze Accelerator original JP name is "Blaze Cannon", and Ra's Blaze Cannon is "God Blaze Cannon". Purely naming.
Surprised Numbers didn't get mentioned
I think the reason why Hero is the biggest archetype is because
A) Theres a lot of inspiration you can pull from such as Marvel, DC, Kamen Rider, Power Rangers and so on
B) It was one of Kazuki Takahashi's favourite archetypes (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) and as any TCG creator would do if they had a personal favourite, you give it a whole bunch of support. Takahashi is basically a custom card creator but whatever he makes is legal lol
The worst part is, not every Hero has been printed. There are still manga/anime exclusive cards like Clay Guard and potentially cards that should exist by definition like Evil Hero counterpart of many monsters Jaden used. It doesn't have to be every Elemental Hero, since certain Fusion Monsters have materials Supreme King did not have in his deck, but an Evil Hero counterpart of it, which has unique Fusions of itself.
Honestly I was waiting for the Pendulum Super-type to go in with the Performapals. Since Performapals are so closely related to Magicians, Odd-Eyes, Performages and Supreme King cards, that alone puts them in at or around 200 cards. And that doesn't factor in generic Pendulum Support, Duelist Alliance, Majespecters, Dracoslayers/Overlords and all the other nonsense that works in that silly deck. If Yu-Gi-Oh had a "Commander" format, that'd be my deck of choice, given how many options I'd have.
Yesss, huge miss!
Is actually really complex you have cards that support any card with pendulum in the name or text, cards that support pendulum dragon, cards that support many archetype at the same time like joker, cards that support dark spellscaster, cards that support magician cards even if they aren't pendulum magician
-If we count every searcher in the game as an archerype, we could consider that ine deck that caused there to be a deck limit.-
If you want to count card lores as a single archetype well…
The latest one, surrounding the mysterious Visas Starfrost, has 61 cards currently released over 4 specific archetypes and lots of Visas support.
Then there’s the fan-favorite World Legacy lore, with 8 named archetypes within, totaling 124 cards currently (which includes the recent Vespar Girsu).
Following that is the Abyss lore mentioned in the video, with 10-ish archetypes and related card arts totaling 168 cards from what I’ve seen.
But the big daddy is the Duel Terminal lore: A confusing and convoluted story plot split across 3 generations and spanning around 27 archetypes and many generic cards with artwork related to it. I did my best counting all those, and I have a total of 754 cards!
If we're gonna discuss Chaos, we can't neglect Dragon pile decks.
Its without a doubt the longest enduring strategy, with the modern day iteration being Dragon Link.
My bet is that it’s HERO.
My bet is earth machine (which counts for me)
Actually the largest archetype is monster, it includes every monster in the game + every card that uses the word "monster"
Heroes being the biggest archetype with the conventional definition is fitting, because heroes are the very first archetype that popularized the idea of archetypes, which later became the bread and butter of konami, sure the harpie ladies were the first, and some would say toons were the first to popularize it, but archytyping decks didn't catch up after harpies, and toons aren't an archetype by conventional means
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there actually are lore connections in old archetypes
while not directly connected Armed Dragons singlehandedly create an abomination.
They are the nexus for Ojamas, Metaphys(which add nepthys) and Hero have their own cross Archetype in NecROID shaman adding all the Roid cards into the pool.
Ojamasimilation is also technically Aleister support and if Roid's don't have a connection to Cyberdragon somehow Ojamas fix that bridge too.
although if we were counting cards like that Original Sinful Spoils probably has some funky connections.
Keyygo without an ecclesia pfp feels wrong.
Is the new one a "if my girl, and scheiren, are both drowning" joke?
If my girl and scheiren are both drowning, imma let em both so i can fusion summon kitkallos
@@Iceyia you know you can just save your gf for free right?
@@tcoren1 dont worry Schieren's effect will put her and your gf back into the deck to fuse kitkallos, so not only do you get both of them back you'd also get a bonus kitkalos
The biggest deck in history goes to the pair calling themselves the delinquent duo who showed up to a tournament with a deck containing more than 2000 cards...
Wait what do you mean we're talking about archetypes
The abyss lore reprint set coming to the OCG has 202 cards, placing at about 60% of hero support.
It has 197 reprints, 4 alt arts, and 1 new card (not sure if the alt arts are in addition to or instead of the reprints).
Worth noting that current counts of abyss lore cards fall below those numbers, implying a few "stealth lore cards" that fell through the cracks.
I bet golden nova is gonna get the last laugh with his "mysterion the dragon crown" prediction
There's also stuff like "the black goat laughs" and "million-year ice prison" that are clearly in the abyss story from their artwork but they have generic effects not directly related to any archetype in the lore.
@@spyro2002 I know, my point is that there are more of those than we know about
Don't the number include cards that have "hero" in its name but are not actually HEROs, like HEROics?
The Visas Starfrost archetype includes the Scareclaw, Tearlaments, Kshatrira, Wind-Up, Infinitrack, Mannadium and Veda archetypes.
Back in like 1999 their was 1 tournament where 1 players deck had like 2000+ CARDS in it that's why as soon as that tournament ended Konami FORCED a 40 or 60 cards DECK limit even if the Archetype has way MORE then 60 cards for the deck your playing.
Archetypes didn’t exist in 99 and the 2 guys were judges who wanted to prove a point that a deck can be too large to play with and they did as they got Konami to change the deck size to 40-60 cards
Chaos was a bit cheating the way you brought it up saying any light or dark if it was any light or dark that needed to be summoned by banishing a card or had chaos in the name I would had been for it and think it would had still beaten heros
I was thinking of heroes but dang, forgot the chaos archetype
Dragon link is also probablyon of the largest decks. Cause all dragons can go in the presuming they dont lovk you into anything
My bet is either HERO or Numbers tbh.
So does that make all Fire/water/earth/wind monsters a part of the dragon ruler archetype.
The thing is yugioh community uses archetype and theme wrong a lot. Like for instance red-eyes has zombies in its archetype but those zombies are not part of the red-eyes theme just part of the red-eyes series. Dragon rulers are specifically dragon and attribute specific support as they arent a "real" archetype/theme as they have no real support
Another reason why I hate heros
Love the content but can you go more indepth longer video
Should all cards be part of the yugioh archetype
Nah d/d and d/d/d Got like 5k+ cards
What ? How
@@Someguy565 idk, they have tons of cards for xyz, links, pendulum, fusion, and synchro, if you make a d/d/d deck you can basically do it with any kind of extra deck
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Before watching I'm just gonna guess hero
Tear would still win with 40 cards 😅.
Before i watch:
Performapal odd eyes performage magician
And chaos isnt an archetype shut up
The 2222 card deck.
Damn hope you didn't pull anything with that big stretch
Take my angry like 😡
I called it
New rule, HERO deck limit is unlimited, but they can only use HERO in Main Deck and Extra deck.