I have a 20 plus year old Country Coach Magna class A. The park Im staying at required I send them a picture for their 10 year old policy. I had no problem with it. Im proud of my Coach and shes super well maintained. Im glad they are trying to keep standards.
While I don’t agree with the rule I understand it. Our camper is 13 years old and well maintained, plus it’s paid for. We can’t afford to run out and buy a new camper or motor home every 10 years. To be clear this isn’t a criticism of your video or y’all.
There shouldn’t be a “year rule” just have a common sense rule that says RV must be in good working condition, no leaks, no dents, etc… the 10 year rule is just as bad as a breed restriction policy. It’s too broad and assumes all older RVs are crap. Just like breed restrictions assume all dogs of certain breeds are bad. Why don’t campground owners treat RVs as all different and not assume older RVs are a problem?
@@Henle15 the use of the 10 year rule is the easiest way achieve their goal. I understand and accept it. As for breed restrictions. Many insurance companies dictate that restrictions and not the campground owners. We had a friend that owned 3 campgrounds insured by 3 different companies (each was in a different state) and each company had different breeds on their list. Only common ones pitbull and doberman.
I don't know what you're complaining about All you have to do is call them they'll ask you to send pictures of your RV and if it's nice they'll let you in even if it's older than 10 years The only reason they do that is to keep out the trashy trailers and I'm glad they do that My coach is over 10 years old but I still get into all those parks because it's well maintained and looks nice
I watched it. You were clear in your discussion. My bottom line is an owner of a campground makes the rules. If I don’t like it I should choose a different campground.
It's a shame that so many of us are so anxious to voice our own opinions that we do not listen. Thank you again for bringing up the issues. Take care and know that the time and truth you put into your videos will win out. May we find a way back to taking the time to really hear the information
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My Country Coach turns 24 years old this season, I have never been turned away and just this past summer stayed at a "RESORT" reviewed on this channel. This resort has a 10 yr policy, but after sending pictures we were approved with no issue. I agree with you, I don't want to be next to a run down RV, Class A or Pup. Doesn't have to be new, but it does need to be presentable. I do my best to keep my Coach looking good and it receives compliments every where we go.
If a campground has a 10-year age policy for RVs, so be it-that's their discretion. My Holiday Rambler may be 18 years old, but it certainly doesn’t look it. In fact, this year we took on a major project and replaced all the flooring, and every year we make upgrades to keep it looking like a brand-new RV. That said, if a campground owner turns us away because of the RV’s age, it’s their right, and I can’t fault them for it. I run my own business and sometimes turn customers away for various reasons. It’s my business, my rules, and I’ve never seen it negatively impact my success.
Absolutely have no issues camping next to a 10+ year old camper as long as it’s been maintained and looks nice on the outside and the owners are good people.
I 100% understand the desire to have a pleasant environment to camp in. Personally we don't want to camp with folks that don't take pride in the appearance of their RV. Well maintained is the key. Appearance does matter.
I agree with what you said in that previous video 100%. For those who reacted to just the title and/or did not watch the whole video, well... There are those among us these days who walk around looking for anything to be offended by! Private campground owners have the right to make their own rules for their own reasons, if they only want to allow pink RV's with purple polka dots, that's their prerogative, if that doesn't suit you, move on down the road to another one!
Don’t have any problem camping next to any RV no matter the condition. The people in that RV may be the best people you will meet. It’s the person not the equipment. Just saying.
My question is, what if you had an old camper but fully restored it to be brand new. Is it new, or technically old? I ask, because I’m taking a vintage restoration class and when students finish their trailers, they are in mint condition. One took theirs on a 30,000 road trip, not one single problem. Every new camper is falling apart.
While I don’t agree with the rule I understand it. Our camper is 13 years old and well maintained, plus it’s paid for. We can’t afford to run out and buy a new camper or motor home every 10 years.
I have no problem with the 10 year rule. I haven’t seen it strictly enforced and when I asked about it, the parks invariably said that if the unit was clean and well maintained, it was allowed in. I think a lot of times the rule is in place as a starting point to screen out dilapidated RV’s. I don’t want to park next to an RV that’s broken down with a hole cut in the side with a residential window AC unit sticking out! 😂
We bought our trailer used and it is over ten years old. Given that it was stored outside in full sun for most of its life, the paint is faded. More than likely if we wanted to stay at a private resort we might not get approved. This is ok. I totally get it. Over our last few years of camping we have seen (and even been next to) very poorly maintained, broken, run-down, ducked-taped together RVs./trailers It is just not something you want to see or be next to. I can't help but think that if this is how they treat their living space, will they have respect for you as their neighbor? Their space? The campground? It could be a gross overgeneralization, but those are the thoughts I have when we pull in and see a camper in that kind of condition.
I had no problem with the 10-year rule video. It was enlightening to hear the RV campground owners' viewpoint. No one wants to live near a slum neighborhood,nor would the property owner want their tenets not to respect their property.
There are MANY places that don't have this rule. And the ones that do, many will take pics. I wouldn't let that stop you if you find something you love.
Never seen this happen even ONCE at a state campground. Maybe it's more prevalent at private, long term rv resorts? I can see someone dying and no one knowing they had an RV set up somewhere. I highly doubt some random camper would decide to pay for a week or whatever to just ditch thier RV.
Good stuff guys!!! The reasons provided for the 10 year rule makes total sense. I’m sure the majority of private campgrounds that have this rule always make an exception for well maintained older units. If a campground has a hard rule of not excepting campers that are older than 10 years regardless of condition, it’s most likely a place I wouldn’t enjoy staying at.
As an owner of a nearly 10 year old travel trailer my immediate reaction was similar to those who felt this was elitist. I did however, watch the whole video and it changed my mind. I, like most people, do not want to stay at a park full of run down RV's. The bottom line is it's the campground owners privilege to set their rules as they see fit. Thanks for making me think.
I can understand if the RV is in truly bad shape. We went to a campground that was pretty much full of run down campers and like a storage lot for a bunch of old campers. But if someone buys an older camper and restores it that's a different story. We purchased a pop - up many years and had plans on gutting it and redoing things because the outside was in greats shape. But we never got the chance. A young couple bought it and they made it amazing. They sent me pics and it was like a brand new one
Good video. In these "United States of the Offended" (RIP Robert E Raiford) people will always find something to be offended by. We camp primarily in state parks, national parks, and Corps of Engineer campgrounds so have never encountered this issue so it really doesn't apply to us. We are also members of the Tin Can Tourist organization which promotes the interests of all vintage trailer and motorhomes, and often glorifies vintage campers, the older the better. BTW, the reason some folks got upset early on may be because you said straight up the beginning of the video that the 10 rule should be enforced.
I have more of an issue on whether the campgrounds are well maintained. Just got back from a short trip to the Black Hills, stayed at Army Corp of engineer campgrounds and Custer Park. Both were well taken care of and very clean. State Parks are also well kept I found.
I don't have a RV, but it like a home. Who wants to live next to a house, that the homeowners doesn't maintain! Ok, some people hear only What they want to hear... or they just don't listen. You do you... Good luck, GM
I watched the previous video, and appreciate the campground owners' position. I don't believe your comments were 'elitist' at all, and love the knowledge I gain from watching you! I think the 10 year rule has validity for both the owners and their patrons, so good job!
Your video was very clear. I do not want to be next to a falling apart rv. I don’t care how old it is, as long as it is decent looking. Right now at this moment we are in a casino parking lot. Packed…..Pendleton roundup. But can’t even believe a vehicle runs. No one is choosing to be next to it on either side even though place is full. It is actually scary. So i know exactly what you two meant. Obviously many not watch your video fully
I'm not saying ALL people who have older campers are dumpy but you do have the ones where more often than not that mess empties out into their yard. Example- we camped at a "resort" that didn't enforce the rule. The spaces were close and There were several old/dumpy RVs with tons of mess and whatnot outside their campers (garbage, old appliances, tons of plants (some dying etc).. and the campers themselves looked in disrepair. In general the whole thing was an eye sore and I didn't appreciate that I had to stare at it if I wanted to sit outside. And like you said, a lot of places will allow the campers if they see they're in good shape.
I watched the video and you both made it very clear you were not elitist...if people don't like or misinterpret your videos they should move on! I enjoy your videos and learn so much!!
I watched your whole previous video. I agree with your (complete) position. We camped next to a 2007 Newmar 5th wheel. Beautifully maintained. We have camped in CGs totally unregulated. My choice not to go back. I appreciate a CG that has a 10 yr rule stated Upfront with an exception clause of photo. If they don’t have the exception, I choose not to go. We have a 6yo MH. I agree with you. Sorry you got the flack.
I missed the first video you’re referencing but watched this in its entirety and I totally get where you’re coming from. Everything you said makes total sense. I can’t understand anyone getting offended by it.
I think a solution would be for hotel chains to start RV parks. The nice RV's can go to Marriott, Hilton, ect and the dumpy once can go to motel 6 and super 8 ones! The higher priced places could have the 10 year rule and the cheaper ones not have it just like nicer hotels obviously cost more! Again, the only problem is what after my rig hits 10 years old and I guarantee you in nearly the same condition as I bought it, I can't park it at a nice place. Since I want to buy a couch I have been watching videos about it as I like to educate myself on everything I get into. At my age, if I buy a NEW couch I expect to eventually be found dead it it!
People always take “things” the wrong way. We stay at Florida State Parks a lot. While they don’t have specific rules regarding your rig, I will say I have seen some real doozies! If I’m paying big bucks I certainly don’t want to be next to a derelict RV! You were just providing information that’s it! End of story! People need to get a grip! Happy trails to you ❤❤❤
I was, like many others, glad to hear the campground owner side of this issue. We are in the process of purchasing a 2015 Winnebago and I was concerned about not be able to use it in the next few years. It has been well maintened and we are having it thoroughly checked out by a certified inspector and plan on keeping it up. THANKS and kudos to you for stepping up and being willing to speak up and research a touchy subject
I have a 30 year old Fleetwood Passero 36 feet long and yes, the pain is faded on the outside but everything else is perfect. I live in it full-time. The motor runs great there are no dings or dents on the outside and yes, the stickers the paint is faded, and the windows on the front of the Coach are only 3 feet tall and all the coaches are 4 feet tall, I have solar on my roof and batteries underneath my refrigerator and I’ve got solid oak on the inside because when they made a diesel pusher back in 1993 they made it the finest they could make at the time and yes, I do have mauve carpeting, but I put a runner on top of it. Let’s address the people that have the 10 year rule with Motorhome lol I have a spot I live in Simi Valley California and life is beautiful and my coach is wonderful thank you
Well,.....I'd love to camp next to you patriots too! We have a 20yr old diesel pusher motorhome we bought in April, and it's been in our driveway ever since, as we are "updating" the inside. We're hoping to use it for 3 months in Arizona this winter. It has low miles, and altho it has some peeling clear coat above the windshield, we intend to address that issue as well. It is a solid and very clean unit, and will look a lot better (Inside) once we're done updating the interior. Thanks for your videos each week. We appreciate you!
Totally agree, been to a lot of RV parks and I'm still surprised by not only the rvs, but the quality of the parks.Pull thrus that aren't pull thrus, hook ups on the wrong side, spots that are extremely unlevel. People working at these places that really don't understand the needs of large motorhome owners. Taking you down to sites with lots of overhangs and difficulties maneuvering between objects. Just got back from a 3600 mile trip of the east coast and experienced a lot of this.
Some folks must not go to a lot of campgrounds! On our cross country trip from NC to California, we stayed in a variety of campgrounds from necessity in order to make the trip within our time frame. We saw some very nice places and enjoyed the one or two nights we could be there. We also saw some real dumps! The biggest issue? Old, rundown RV's! Hence, pilled up trash, junk shoved under the RV's, etc. I'm sure the RV owners were long timers. The campground owners my not have cared (just like some landlords don't care to keep up their property) but, if a campground want's to appeal to a more upbeat clientele, the 10 year rule would certainly help. We, too, want to stay in clean, well-maintained campgrounds. Thanks for the video.
Totally understand the rv park owners position. We have been to a park that allows long term stays and some of the rv’s are not taken care of at all. That reflects poorly on the park as a whole even though the short term area have well kept rvs. The park owner has been making progress cleaning up the long term area. Now it doesn’t feel like the people visiting that back area were just there to score something.
Fully AGREE!!! Just stayed over night in TX, it was filled with really bad uncared for units! It was sad sad sad! Our TT is older (frankly I really can’t remember its age at this very moment, late night viewing💤) I have no issue with the 10 year rule, as long as they review our pretty TT.
I watched the original video and understood perfectly what the intent was and is. I'm a total newbie, and you have helped me so much. Thanks, and keep doing what you're doing.
Watch this and the one you're taking heat on. It sounds terrible to say you can't come in if you're rig is 10 yo, but it is the owner's responsibility to keep their clients happy and safe. At the same time, I've also hear they will sometimes make exceptions if you can prove your rig is in good shape. Not sure why people would get nasty about this rule and wonder how they feel about Class A only resorts. Boy, I'm sure that would open a can of worms.
I'm the campground owner, and I also stayed at the new jersey campground a few years ago. Wasn't impressed by that one either. Nice to see you at Hershey.
Bravo! People that are loving to hate on an excellent RV based channel would have taken the other side of the discussion if they felt they could get 'airtime'! Keep up your very well thought out commentary as we love all that you do for the community.
That is a hard one, the 10 year rule is the only way, with exceptions, maybe there should be an inspection process on older models. Not myself but I have a friend that keeps everything perfect. He and Izzy would get along. His 20 year old boat was perfect, no one new the model of his Harley, because it look brand new but was almost 25 years old. Some people are good at it. Me. not so much.
Watched other vid & agreed with you & grounds owners. I was invited to drop by one camper that was quite dirty on the outside and even more so on the inside. My initial thought was to imagine the outside appearance was due to negligence but I rethought and decided it was from many miles of travel and no capacity to clean. My first thought was correct. This was a 6 yo camper! It takes a lot of work to maintain a camper and age isn’t a factor by itself. Mine is 7 yo and I bet you would think it was built a year ago. Time, effort & money can make an old camper look great but most people don’t want to take the effort. I agree with the 10 year rule but it must have some latitude for acceptance. Great video and I’m proud you two stood your ground with class and grace. Happy travels!
We are seeing a number of camp grounds transitioning to long term residents. And some let anyone and everything in, as long as they pay. A real mix of junk and maintained units. I’m in favor of requiring maintained units. Age not an issue.
The fact that you were unapologetic is why I love and follow you guys. You said what you said, we aren’t going to agree on everything. But I do agree with you on this. About the fact that you pointed out, but people could just leave their RVs if they break down because they’re so old at the expensive, RV Park is extremely valid. If you have a nice clean older rig & submit a picture they should have no problem taking you. Keep on endlessly RVing and I’ll keep endlessly loving you guys. Hope our paths cross one day. 🙌♥️🇺🇸🥃
I am totally ambivalent about this issue. I understand the purpose, and we have been camped next to the Clampetts on at least one occasion, which the rule would have prevented. We know of one resort type campground that stipulates 15 years, BUT will allow you to submit photos prior to confirming a reservation, which is a very generous way to handle the issue. I suspect the harsh comments were mostly folks who have had their egos bruised by this situation. The simplest solution is to choose well rated campgrounds that do not have the rule. There are endless, nice, comfortable, even beautiful campgrounds that fit this description. Keep up the good work! 👍
I have camped all over the States and have stated at some pretty crummy campgrounds that had RV's that were not maintained and have made a point to never stay there again. I have stayed at many others where older RV's were there and are well maintained and I would go back there again. I did watch the previous video and now understand the troubles the owners have gone through. I agree with the rule now but I didn't prior to your video. I appreciate the education.
Like I said on the other video. I don't stay at "elite" private campgrounds. EVER! There are plenty of great state and local campgrounds to fit my needs. Plus, why spend $100-$300 per night to CAMP?! You can camp at any Il state campground for $25 per night. Most Mi campgrounds are $33-$38 pre night. Granted you might not have full hookups(likely you won't at state parks) but for me its CAMPING! In all my years camping I have seen maybe 3 campers/rv's that are total junk and downright derelict. This did NOT affect my camping experience in the least. Again, "elite" private campground owners can do as they want. It's thier property so if they want to "discriminate" against folks that have older units, so be it. These campgrounds won't ever get my money, but they will still do ok thanks to folks like yourselves and others with "money". With how the economy is going, my guess is, there will be more +10yr old rv's running around than new.
Yes I watched the WHOLE video and I completely agree with you. Some people are so thin-skinned or like you said, did not watch the whole video. You guys are great.
Started watching this one, went back and watched the first and then this one. I actually commented on another TH-camr's video on this subject because they were rejected according to their video at least from a campground with the 10 year rule. Their RV is obviously in very good condition else they would not be running a YT channel about it. They refused to name the campground, and I simply stated they should so people can choose not to give them their business if they felt strongly about it and it ended up getting way more traction than I thought it would with people agreeing. At the end of the day its just like a store, they can refuse service to anyone they want for whatever reason they want. I believe the reason people feel so strongly about it is that reducing something you have cared for and maintained past that 10 year mark (it's your baby at that point) and presenting it as a blanket "no" with a potential stipulation that pictures "could" get you in offends peoples sensibilities about how their property is viewed. That being said, I subscribed because of this video, I can understand the burden (especially these days) of a campground owner having to deal with an abandoned RV of any sort, and caring for the safety of the other campers. You referenced a reply where a campground owner said he does that with anything that is longer than a 28 day stay which totally makes sense, and I think again highlights the point that not all resorts/parks are the same, and just like they get to choose who stays there, you as a consumer get to choose where to stay.
I am always surprised by people who comment on something without viewing the whole thing! They don’t realize or care how ignorant they sound. We have a 20 year old fifth wheel and have never been turned away because we take good care of it!!! Thanks for your channel
Hello there, We have a 23 y/o Alpenlite Riviera and have to send pictures to many parks to "qualify", understandably. She's a beautifully maintained rig inside and out and better built than 90% of the new rigs manufactured these days. What chaps my hide is upon arrival at some of these parks we see stuff that should be in a recycle yard!
I agree with you that if a campground has a lot of run down rigs, either newer or older, we usually don’t book it or we don’t go back to it. I have seen great looking older rigs and some crappy looking newer rigs.
Best comment in the video, “older Rv’s are not a protected class under federal law”🤣🤣🤣 Love it ! I know you’re not crazy about Class B’s, however we are about to receive our 2023 New off the lot Midwest Passage MD2 170ext van. Out of all the channels I have seen, (admittedly I only have been watching for about 2 weeks), yours is the best !
I absolutely love your channel and your family values! We sold our property partially because of the HOA rules & the big brother atmosphere. We boondock or dry camp, and that is our choice. I fall in line with Mark Twain, “The more I familiarize myself with people the more I love my dog(s)! I adhere to the view of “You be you & I’ll be me”Take care & be well!
So sorry for all the negative feedback. I felt your original video . . & This one . . Was very clear. I understand why campgrounds have that rule. I wish some would be more forthcoming & flexible perhaps. Or clear about how they make exceptions! I too have seen relatively new units that already looked pretty bad, or had leaky tanks or landing gear etc. I’ve also seen some phenomenal 20+ year old units that were pristine! Take care of your unit, be prepared with great pic’s & maintenance records if need be. Y’all were clear & did nothing wrong!!❤
Well if the campground owner allows campers to stay long enough to fall apart then he is a slumlord. I agree that I would not return or even stay at a rundown campground. Safety first for my family. Campground owners make this decision they offer discounts on monthly rentals. Even State Parks in our state have a two week minimum. This prevents the buildup of unsightly appliances or furniture. Instead of the ten year rule the Campground owner should say ( We reserve the right to reject poorly maintained RVs.)This would allow older well maintained RVs without causing issues.
We own a 26 year old MH (well maintained) 😊 and we have also been to campgrounds with the run down, neglected units that made us very uncomfortable. I would never return to them. We actually have an affinity for the older ones that are well kept. I thought the video was very informative. Thanks for the follow up vid. You guys are awesome!
Your original video was great, fair and informative! I do feel that the “10 year” part of the rule is rather random and should just be focused on the actual problem regardless of age which is “not well maintained”. Call it a “NWM Rule” regardless of age of the rig.
No apology needed. Not only did most of the keyboard warriors probably not watch the whole video. They probably did not watch most of your other videos. Y’all to a great job putting out content that is beneficial to other RV’ers. So with that you should get a little lead way or benefit of the doubt. I agree with the 10 year rule. Mine is not that old, but when it is, I will have no issue providing proof that is maintained up to standards. On a side note, congrats on your retirement. I am also retired from the job. Bought one of your t-shirts of the American Flag with the little RV’s. Really like it. I too found myself unsubscribed from your channel for some reason, but re-subscribed.
Sometimes I just gotta shake my head. You guys are nice enough to do these videos, to try and help others, to be informative. I can't be;eive others would complain like that, to you, for trying to share something you enjoy while trying to help others. Toe ach, their own, I guess. People forget they have the option of scrolling on by without saying anything and just moving on to the next video. Thanks for what both of you do. I appreciate it. I find your videos informative, with a sense of humor and a light side , to them. I'm trying to decide whether to buy an RV and I'm glad I found your channel. Please continue to do what you're doing and the complainers can show themselves to the door.
Totally get your point. We are currently at a privately owned campground. There is a mixture of OLD. trailers and one really old faded motor home. Upkeep o an RV is not cheap and requires elbow grease. We have a 2017 Newmar Dutch Star, and she looks great. But it’s because we spend the time and money to keep it up. If I didn’t have the resources to do that I wouldn’t have bought it. Nothing wrong with going with what you an afford and like. We just partied with a group that am e here with those little two sleeper models with the kitchen in the back. Tiny little trailers. I forgot their model name. However, not flashy but well maintained and great folks. I could fit two of them in my motor home! ….. But your topic is well taken. No one wants to see a breakdown or accident with old RV’s. They should definitely be maintained and park owners have every right to select what is acceptable to be on their property. For liability at the very least.
Don’t be defensive guys! Your videos share so much valuable RVing information! To each his or her own. We’ve had an older motorhome and never had an issue at dozens of our favorite campgrounds. And we understand those that enforce this rule, but we’ve found they are few and far between. We did send photos to a handful of campgrounds who requested them and never an issue. Keep on producing your great, informative videos! Thanks so much.
😂They didn't watch, but I did! I refused to get back in our nee to us 97 Adventurer, after going camping several times with family members that had very new or nice looking used tts and 5th wheels! It looked like a mechanics dream on outside and very pretty on inside, kinda embarrassing 😂!! So, we upgraded to an beautiful all the way around 07 Sportcoach Elite and have had no issues with it being over 10yrs at campgrounds, but I bet we would have been stopped at gate with Miss Winnie🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣 Have a great Sunday!
I watch and like your channel. I will admit that I disagree with the hard "10 year" rule. ( I DID watch the entire video btw) but I also agree that run down or literally unsafe RV's are a big concern . Boats and dockage at marinas have the same overall issues as well . Just MHO, but I think hard year limits are an RV industry killer....an industry that is obviously struggling as we speak. I DO support verification of compliance and functionality by owners of a facility that somewhat "protects" us all . LOL, you guys just learned that it is very easy to step in a big ole pile of poo even if you had good intentions ......... All the best going forward !
I watched the video, and I understand the campground owners position. I have an 11 year old toy hauler, and people can’t believe it’s that old. I keep up on the maintenance, and it does take work. I watch many utube videos to anticipate problems, and I take care of issues before they occur. I have a list of things that get done. I’ve also seen those rigs that are run down, and I would not want to be parked next to.
We stayed in a campground next to a pretty old, well maintained RV. I asked them if they usually have issues with the ten year rule. They said they generally just send a photo, and it is waved. But during our stay, the RV owner climbed a ladder to fix something on the slide, and a piece gave way as he was pulling on it, and he fell off the ladder. It startled many of us who ran to his aid. He was hurt, but not badly hurt. Praise God. But he did land on his hip on a rock. It was not an issue for the campground, as the man did not break his hip. And the couple was lovely. But the age of the RV really did play into this. As it was a piece of rotting rubber that snapped, cause the man to fall. The whole scenario could have ended so poorly. If the people were different, or the fall resulted in worse injury.
Like I said in my comment on the previous video, I think that there is a difference between transient and seasonal RVs. As a transient, if I am registered, inspected, and insured then the 10-year rule should not apply. If I am safe enough for the highway, I am safe enough for the campground. Yea, yea, I know that it is a private business and they can do what they want. But as you said in the video, I'll speak with my feet. I will be happy to show them my paperwork or photos, but I will never be back.
I don't own an RV and was not sure if that video should make me mad or not (not really), but on another note if a housing neighborhood starts getting folks that let their properties run down, then those who do take care of their properties tend to sell and move away.
Maybe you've addressed this before but I missed it. What is the vehicle you have behind your RV? Are you "flat towing" it? I'm trying to find a vehicle we can flat tow behind our Class C.
I think you guys put out great content, and I appreciate it and thank you. Those who don't watch a whole video, and just make assumptions, it's their loss for missing the point. Anyone who has followed you a long time, can get a sense of the kind of people that you are, and you are definitely not elitists.
What I’ve often thought about doing is wrapping my RV, which would cost me about six or $7000 but I’m thinking about buying a fifth wheel because I’m just stationary right now and then buying a B+ to travel around in. I’m a 70-year-old man and I enjoy my 1969 Ford Ranchero because of what it is it’s my father‘s car when he was alive and my mother‘s 1977 450 SL Mercedes-Benz Because it was her car when she was alive. So I’d like having older things that are still very nice but yes, I can buy myself an electric truck now and a fifth wheel and be able to join in the crowd to be under 10 years old. I got this Motorhome only four years ago and it belong to a man that took very good care of it most of its life but he let it sit outside and yes, The Son does amazing things to the finish in Southern California. But he always took care of it and he died and then I bought it from his wife and I’ve been living in it ever since it’s been a dream and yes hey check this out. The cloth ceiling, which is a vinyl cloth. The glue came loose and when I bought it, I put base molding from my house cause I’m a retired contractor and I put it up there on the ceiling and hold up the ceiling perfectly and it’s a very very nice rig and well-maintained and talk about maintained talk about the functions and the way it looks but yes, the paint is faded. The stickers are faded because they didn’t use paint for the green and blue on the side because it’s a pace arrow, butI would love to find somebody to go out and travel with and have fun and make a TH-cam channel and have fun and enjoy doing what we do what you’re doing and thank you very much for your information. I appreciate it. I watch all your videos I subscribed to your channel.
You guys have great content and keep us well informed about things in the RV industry and associated camp grounds. I get why camp grounds want to keep old, broke-down, vehicles off their property. You guys were just giving us information.
I hope my comment on that video was ok. I watched the video! I agree with you on this video and the other one. Thank you clearing the other video up and what it meant. I appreciate it.
Just got back from camping at Frontier Town they have the rule however we did see some really cool older RVs so I’m guessing they do allow if they are in good shape I agree we are on our 5th rv in our 30 year marriage one of which was an old Winnebago we were able to camp at places with the rule after sending a picture…let’s be real same thing with houses a poorly maintained house creates problems including hazards same thing in my opinion with a campground
Hello, I AGREE with your previous video ENTIRELY, We have a 10-year-old travel trailer (2014 KZ Sportsmen). It is in 100% showroom condition, if not better. We bought it new and since owning it have maintained it every year, including making the RV better with upgrades. I have recently bumped into this situation at a local campground in CT. I made a reservation in person, without my RV and they asked yr the make and model of the RV. They said it's at the 10-year mark and they would need to see pictures. I showed them pics from my phone and the owners were very impressed, actually couldn't believe it was this nice. I don't understand how viewers aren't understanding the point you are making. It's for the good of the campground and everyone's safety who stays there. Thanks for this video, take care of your RV and it will take care of you.
I'm glad Ft. Wilderness doesn't have that rule. We're soon heading out with our 22 year old Sunline. It's in good condition, but by body style alone, it's obviously an old unit. Even if I sent a photo, it's not going to pass for under 10.
...we have 16 a y/o Jayco Eagle 5th wheel and have maintained the appearance every year with regular waxing and immediate repairs when needed... unfortunately the sun has caused the decals to crack and fade which makes the RV show it's age.. we have stayed in many beautiful resorts where the 10 yr rule has been listed on their website, however after a polite conversation with the office staff, we have never been denied entry... I agree it's a rare occurrence where the campground refuses entry but I do believe it is their right to manage their property as they like... I appreciate a beautiful/well maintained resort as I'm sure the campground owners appreciate the same from their customers and their RV's.. because of this rule, we are now looking for a new unit as we travel from Alberta to the U.S every year and would rather not worry about it any longer... keep up the great videos...
For me the arbitrary 10yr rule is just one flag for a poorly managed park, that is also more than likely to also have issues with unruly people, pets and kids and/or cranky eccentric owner/operators. I tend to avoid such parks since I've had way more issues with the latter as opposed to a 10yrs old rv - well maintained or not. I think some of the nicest more interesting folks I've met are in older not so well maintained RV's but to each their own. Best parks in my travels tend to talk to their customers prior to taking a reservation and are pretty good at managing their clientele (often times to the detriment of making more money). That said, it's a free country and we're all free to operate our businesses and spend our money how we see fit.
I get it and if you keep your rig in good condition then send it photos. I would not want to be parked next to a broken down rig. sad that people jump to conclusions. Keep up the great work.
I have a 20 plus year old Country Coach Magna class A. The park Im staying at required I send them a picture for their 10 year old policy. I had no problem with it. Im proud of my Coach and shes super well maintained. Im glad they are trying to keep standards.
Love country coach, especially the Magna👍🏻🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@@bobabooie6389 thanks!
We purchased a 2014 AC Revolution 42G. We're proud of it. It's in better condition than other newer RVs I've seen.
@@GallavantingBlasians Very nice. Great choice. For 500k this couple could of purchased an amazing coach...
Thank you for this video. It’s a shame the people jump to conclusions without even watching the full video.
Their park, their rules. It may not seem fair,and I get it. Why would anyone be angry with you? Your just the messenger. 😊 You guys rock. ❤
Much appreciated. 😊
The funny part is that almost everything between 2019-present is falling apart and having more issues and more liabilities than the older ones.
2019 was the last great year prior to Covid!! 2021- current have definitely had their share of trouble, issue and down right blunders
We have NEVER purchased a brand new RV because of the POOR workmanship in a lot of them.
True
While I don’t agree with the rule I understand it. Our camper is 13 years old and well maintained, plus it’s paid for. We can’t afford to run out and buy a new camper or motor home every 10 years. To be clear this isn’t a criticism of your video or y’all.
I’ve stayed in 3 different campgrounds with my 14 year old class A that have a ten year rule.
There shouldn’t be a “year rule” just have a common sense rule that says RV must be in good working condition, no leaks, no dents, etc… the 10 year rule is just as bad as a breed restriction policy. It’s too broad and assumes all older RVs are crap. Just like breed restrictions assume all dogs of certain breeds are bad. Why don’t campground owners treat RVs as all different and not assume older RVs are a problem?
@@Henle15 the use of the 10 year rule is the easiest way achieve their goal. I understand and accept it. As for breed restrictions. Many insurance companies dictate that restrictions and not the campground owners. We had a friend that owned 3 campgrounds insured by 3 different companies (each was in a different state) and each company had different breeds on their list. Only common ones pitbull and doberman.
I don't know what you're complaining about All you have to do is call them they'll ask you to send pictures of your RV and if it's nice they'll let you in even if it's older than 10 years The only reason they do that is to keep out the trashy trailers and I'm glad they do that My coach is over 10 years old but I still get into all those parks because it's well maintained and looks nice
I watched it. You were clear in your discussion. My bottom line is an owner of a campground makes the rules. If I don’t like it I should choose a different campground.
It's a shame that so many of us are so anxious to voice our own opinions that we do not listen. Thank you again for bringing up the issues. Take care and know that the time and truth you put into your videos will win out. May we find a way back to taking the time to really hear the information
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My Country Coach turns 24 years old this season, I have never been turned away and just this past summer stayed at a "RESORT" reviewed on this channel. This resort has a 10 yr policy, but after sending pictures we were approved with no issue. I agree with you, I don't want to be next to a run down RV, Class A or Pup. Doesn't have to be new, but it does need to be presentable. I do my best to keep my Coach looking good and it receives compliments every where we go.
If a campground has a 10-year age policy for RVs, so be it-that's their discretion. My Holiday Rambler may be 18 years old, but it certainly doesn’t look it. In fact, this year we took on a major project and replaced all the flooring, and every year we make upgrades to keep it looking like a brand-new RV. That said, if a campground owner turns us away because of the RV’s age, it’s their right, and I can’t fault them for it. I run my own business and sometimes turn customers away for various reasons. It’s my business, my rules, and I’ve never seen it negatively impact my success.
Absolutely have no issues camping next to a 10+ year old camper as long as it’s been maintained and looks nice on the outside and the owners are good people.
I 100% understand the desire to have a pleasant environment to camp in. Personally we don't want to camp with folks that don't take pride in the appearance of their RV. Well maintained is the key. Appearance does matter.
It’s interesting that some of those claiming elitism seem to be the ones who are most arrogant or insecure.
No disagreement with campground policy here….That said, I would much rather have a 15 year old unit than some new garbage they’re slapping together.
Thanks for sharing
I agree with what you said in that previous video 100%. For those who reacted to just the title and/or did not watch the whole video, well... There are those among us these days who walk around looking for anything to be offended by! Private campground owners have the right to make their own rules for their own reasons, if they only want to allow pink RV's with purple polka dots, that's their prerogative, if that doesn't suit you, move on down the road to another one!
Exactly our point. You always get it, Wes. 😃
Don’t have any problem camping next to any RV no matter the condition. The people in that RV may be the best people you will meet. It’s the person not the equipment. Just saying.
My question is, what if you had an old camper but fully restored it to be brand new. Is it new, or technically old? I ask, because I’m taking a vintage restoration class and when students finish their trailers, they are in mint condition. One took theirs on a 30,000 road trip, not one single problem. Every new camper is falling apart.
While I don’t agree with the rule I understand it. Our camper is 13 years old and well maintained, plus it’s paid for. We can’t afford to run out and buy a new camper or motor home every 10 years.
I have no problem with the 10 year rule. I haven’t seen it strictly enforced and when I asked about it, the parks invariably said that if the unit was clean and well maintained, it was allowed in. I think a lot of times the rule is in place as a starting point to screen out dilapidated RV’s. I don’t want to park next to an RV that’s broken down with a hole cut in the side with a residential window AC unit sticking out! 😂
We bought our trailer used and it is over ten years old. Given that it was stored outside in full sun for most of its life, the paint is faded. More than likely if we wanted to stay at a private resort we might not get approved. This is ok. I totally get it. Over our last few years of camping we have seen (and even been next to) very poorly maintained, broken, run-down, ducked-taped together RVs./trailers It is just not something you want to see or be next to. I can't help but think that if this is how they treat their living space, will they have respect for you as their neighbor? Their space? The campground? It could be a gross overgeneralization, but those are the thoughts I have when we pull in and see a camper in that kind of condition.
I had no problem with the 10-year rule video. It was enlightening to hear the RV campground owners' viewpoint. No one wants to live near a slum neighborhood,nor would the property owner want their tenets not to respect their property.
This is a great point. We’ve been looking at older rigs but now I’m a little concerned 🤔
There are MANY places that don't have this rule. And the ones that do, many will take pics. I wouldn't let that stop you if you find something you love.
Sadly people have abandoned their older RVs in private campgrounds. Then the owners are stuck with disposal
Campground owners have told us that
Never seen this happen even ONCE at a state campground. Maybe it's more prevalent at private, long term rv resorts? I can see someone dying and no one knowing they had an RV set up somewhere. I highly doubt some random camper would decide to pay for a week or whatever to just ditch thier RV.
Good stuff guys!!! The reasons provided for the 10 year rule makes total sense. I’m sure the majority of private campgrounds that have this rule always make an exception for well maintained older units. If a campground has a hard rule of not excepting campers that are older than 10 years regardless of condition, it’s most likely a place I wouldn’t enjoy staying at.
As an owner of a nearly 10 year old travel trailer my immediate reaction was similar to those who felt this was elitist. I did however, watch the whole video and it changed my mind. I, like most people, do not want to stay at a park full of run down RV's. The bottom line is it's the campground owners privilege to set their rules as they see fit. Thanks for making me think.
Thank you for reconsidering. 👍
Our motorhome is 44 years old. Well maintained.
Great!
Amazing!
Wow! Is it an Airstream?
@@betsyvoss49 it’s a 1980 Chevy Class B+ Motorhome.
@@jacquiemarshall6843 That's impressive! Too bad you can't post photos here. I'd love to see it.
I can understand if the RV is in truly bad shape. We went to a campground that was pretty much full of run down campers and like a storage lot for a bunch of old campers. But if someone buys an older camper and restores it that's a different story. We purchased a pop - up many years and had plans on gutting it and redoing things because the outside was in greats shape. But we never got the chance. A young couple bought it and they made it amazing. They sent me pics and it was like a brand new one
Good video. In these "United States of the Offended" (RIP Robert E Raiford) people will always find something to be offended by. We camp primarily in state parks, national parks, and Corps of Engineer campgrounds so have never encountered this issue so it really doesn't apply to us. We are also members of the Tin Can Tourist organization which promotes the interests of all vintage trailer and motorhomes, and often glorifies vintage campers, the older the better. BTW, the reason some folks got upset early on may be because you said straight up the beginning of the video that the 10 rule should be enforced.
Agreed
I have more of an issue on whether the campgrounds are well maintained. Just got back from a short trip to the Black Hills, stayed at Army Corp of engineer campgrounds and Custer Park. Both were well taken care of and very clean. State Parks are also well kept I found.
I don't have a RV, but it like a home. Who wants to live next to a house, that the homeowners doesn't maintain! Ok, some people hear only What they want to hear... or they just don't listen. You do you... Good luck, GM
I watched the previous video, and appreciate the campground owners' position. I don't believe your comments were 'elitist' at all, and love the knowledge I gain from watching you! I think the 10 year rule has validity for both the owners and their patrons, so good job!
Your video was very clear. I do not want to be next to a falling apart rv. I don’t care how old it is, as long as it is decent looking. Right now at this moment we are in a casino parking lot. Packed…..Pendleton roundup. But can’t even believe a vehicle runs. No one is choosing to be next to it on either side even though place is full. It is actually scary. So i know exactly what you two meant. Obviously many not watch your video fully
Thank you!
I'm not saying ALL people who have older campers are dumpy but you do have the ones where more often than not that mess empties out into their yard. Example- we camped at a
"resort" that didn't enforce the rule. The spaces were close and There were several old/dumpy RVs with tons of mess and whatnot outside their campers (garbage, old appliances, tons of plants (some dying etc).. and the campers themselves looked in disrepair. In general the whole thing was an eye sore and I didn't appreciate that I had to stare at it if I wanted to sit outside.
And like you said, a lot of places will allow the campers if they see they're in good shape.
I watched the video and you both made it very clear you were not elitist...if people don't like or misinterpret your videos they should move on! I enjoy your videos and learn so much!!
I watched your whole previous video. I agree with your (complete) position. We camped next to a 2007 Newmar 5th wheel. Beautifully maintained. We have camped in CGs totally unregulated. My choice not to go back. I appreciate a CG that has a 10 yr rule stated Upfront with an exception clause of photo. If they don’t have the exception, I choose not to go. We have a 6yo MH. I agree with you. Sorry you got the flack.
I missed the first video you’re referencing but watched this in its entirety and I totally get where you’re coming from. Everything you said makes total sense. I can’t understand anyone getting offended by it.
I think a solution would be for hotel chains to start RV parks. The nice RV's can go to Marriott, Hilton, ect and the dumpy once can go to motel 6 and super 8 ones! The higher priced places could have the 10 year rule and the cheaper ones not have it just like nicer hotels obviously cost more! Again, the only problem is what after my rig hits 10 years old and I guarantee you in nearly the same condition as I bought it, I can't park it at a nice place. Since I want to buy a couch I have been watching videos about it as I like to educate myself on everything I get into. At my age, if I buy a NEW couch I expect to eventually be found dead it it!
People always take “things” the wrong way. We stay at Florida State Parks a lot. While they don’t have specific rules regarding your rig, I will say I have seen some real doozies! If I’m paying big bucks I certainly don’t want to be next to a derelict RV! You were just providing information that’s it! End of story! People need to get a grip! Happy trails to you ❤❤❤
I was, like many others, glad to hear the campground owner side of this issue. We are in the process of purchasing a 2015 Winnebago and I was concerned about not be able to use it in the next few years. It has been well maintened and we are having it thoroughly checked out by a certified inspector and plan on keeping it up. THANKS and kudos to you for stepping up and being willing to speak up and research a touchy subject
I have a 30 year old Fleetwood Passero 36 feet long and yes, the pain is faded on the outside but everything else is perfect. I live in it full-time. The motor runs great there are no dings or dents on the outside and yes, the stickers the paint is faded, and the windows on the front of the Coach are only 3 feet tall and all the coaches are 4 feet tall, I have solar on my roof and batteries underneath my refrigerator and I’ve got solid oak on the inside because when they made a diesel pusher back in 1993 they made it the finest they could make at the time and yes, I do have mauve carpeting, but I put a runner on top of it. Let’s address the people that have the 10 year rule with Motorhome lol I have a spot I live in Simi Valley California and life is beautiful and my coach is wonderful thank you
Well,.....I'd love to camp next to you patriots too! We have a 20yr old diesel pusher motorhome we bought in April, and it's been in our driveway ever since, as we are "updating" the inside. We're hoping to use it for 3 months in Arizona this winter. It has low miles, and altho it has some peeling clear coat above the windshield, we intend to address that issue as well. It is a solid and very clean unit, and will look a lot better (Inside) once we're done updating the interior. Thanks for your videos each week. We appreciate you!
Thanks so much. We appreciate YOU!
Totally agree, been to a lot of RV parks and I'm still surprised by not only the rvs, but the quality of the parks.Pull thrus that aren't pull thrus, hook ups on the wrong side, spots that are extremely unlevel. People working at these places that really don't understand the needs of large motorhome owners. Taking you down to sites with lots of overhangs and difficulties maneuvering between objects. Just got back from a 3600 mile trip of the east coast and experienced a lot of this.
Some folks must not go to a lot of campgrounds! On our cross country trip from NC to California, we stayed in a variety of campgrounds from necessity in order to make the trip within our time frame. We saw some very nice places and enjoyed the one or two nights we could be there. We also saw some real dumps! The biggest issue? Old, rundown RV's! Hence, pilled up trash, junk shoved under the RV's, etc. I'm sure the RV owners were long timers. The campground owners my not have cared (just like some landlords don't care to keep up their property) but, if a campground want's to appeal to a more upbeat clientele, the 10 year rule would certainly help. We, too, want to stay in clean, well-maintained campgrounds. Thanks for the video.
Sounds like the problem is with seasonal and annual campers. There are a bunch at campgrounds we've seen that are pretty shabby.
Totally understand the rv park owners position. We have been to a park that allows long term stays and some of the rv’s are not taken care of at all. That reflects poorly on the park as a whole even though the short term area have well kept rvs. The park owner has been making progress cleaning up the long term area. Now it doesn’t feel like the people visiting that back area were just there to score something.
Fully AGREE!!!
Just stayed over night in TX, it was filled with really bad uncared for units! It was sad sad sad!
Our TT is older (frankly I really can’t remember its age at this very moment, late night viewing💤)
I have no issue with the 10 year rule, as long as they review our pretty TT.
We own a 1966 Scotty and it is in great shape.
I watched the original video and understood perfectly what the intent was and is. I'm a total newbie, and you have helped me so much. Thanks, and keep doing what you're doing.
Watch this and the one you're taking heat on. It sounds terrible to say you can't come in if you're rig is 10 yo, but it is the owner's responsibility to keep their clients happy and safe. At the same time, I've also hear they will sometimes make exceptions if you can prove your rig is in good shape. Not sure why people would get nasty about this rule and wonder how they feel about Class A only resorts. Boy, I'm sure that would open a can of worms.
I'm the campground owner, and I also stayed at the new jersey campground a few years ago. Wasn't impressed by that one either.
Nice to see you at Hershey.
Bravo! People that are loving to hate on an excellent RV based channel would have taken the other side of the discussion if they felt they could get 'airtime'! Keep up your very well thought out commentary as we love all that you do for the community.
That is a hard one, the 10 year rule is the only way, with exceptions, maybe there should be an inspection process on older models. Not myself but I have a friend that keeps everything perfect. He and Izzy would get along. His 20 year old boat was perfect, no one new the model of his Harley, because it look brand new but was almost 25 years old. Some people are good at it. Me. not so much.
Watched other vid & agreed with you & grounds owners. I was invited to drop by one camper that was quite dirty on the outside and even more so on the inside. My initial thought was to imagine the outside appearance was due to negligence but I rethought and decided it was from many miles of travel and no capacity to clean. My first thought was correct. This was a 6 yo camper! It takes a lot of work to maintain a camper and age isn’t a factor by itself. Mine is 7 yo and I bet you would think it was built a year ago. Time, effort & money can make an old camper look great but most people don’t want to take the effort. I agree with the 10 year rule but it must have some latitude for acceptance. Great video and I’m proud you two stood your ground with class and grace. Happy travels!
We are seeing a number of camp grounds transitioning to long term residents. And some let anyone and everything in, as long as they pay. A real mix of junk and maintained units. I’m in favor of requiring maintained units. Age not an issue.
The fact that you were unapologetic is why I love and follow you guys. You said what you said, we aren’t going to agree on everything. But I do agree with you on this. About the fact that you pointed out, but people could just leave their RVs if they break down because they’re so old at the expensive, RV Park is extremely valid. If you have a nice clean older rig & submit a picture they should have no problem taking you. Keep on endlessly RVing and I’ll keep endlessly loving you guys. Hope our paths cross one day. 🙌♥️🇺🇸🥃
So kind, thank you.
I get why some places have this rule. I’ve seen some pretty run down RVs. Thankfully mine is in great shape!
I am totally ambivalent about this issue. I understand the purpose, and we have been camped next to the Clampetts on at least one occasion, which the rule would have prevented. We know of one resort type campground that stipulates 15 years, BUT will allow you to submit photos prior to confirming a reservation, which is a very generous way to handle the issue. I suspect the harsh comments were mostly folks who have had their egos bruised by this situation. The simplest solution is to choose well rated campgrounds that do not have the rule. There are endless, nice, comfortable, even beautiful campgrounds that fit this description. Keep up the good work! 👍
I have camped all over the States and have stated at some pretty crummy campgrounds that had RV's that were not maintained and have made a point to never stay there again. I have stayed at many others where older RV's were there and are well maintained and I would go back there again. I did watch the previous video and now understand the troubles the owners have gone through. I agree with the rule now but I didn't prior to your video. I appreciate the education.
Like I said on the other video. I don't stay at "elite" private campgrounds. EVER! There are plenty of great state and local campgrounds to fit my needs. Plus, why spend $100-$300 per night to CAMP?! You can camp at any Il state campground for $25 per night. Most Mi campgrounds are $33-$38 pre night. Granted you might not have full hookups(likely you won't at state parks) but for me its CAMPING! In all my years camping I have seen maybe 3 campers/rv's that are total junk and downright derelict. This did NOT affect my camping experience in the least.
Again, "elite" private campground owners can do as they want. It's thier property so if they want to "discriminate" against folks that have older units, so be it. These campgrounds won't ever get my money, but they will still do ok thanks to folks like yourselves and others with "money". With how the economy is going, my guess is, there will be more +10yr old rv's running around than new.
Yes I watched the WHOLE video and I completely agree with you. Some people are so thin-skinned or like you said, did not watch the whole video. You guys are great.
Thank you.
I watched both videos and I agree with you on both. Thanks again.
Started watching this one, went back and watched the first and then this one. I actually commented on another TH-camr's video on this subject because they were rejected according to their video at least from a campground with the 10 year rule. Their RV is obviously in very good condition else they would not be running a YT channel about it. They refused to name the campground, and I simply stated they should so people can choose not to give them their business if they felt strongly about it and it ended up getting way more traction than I thought it would with people agreeing. At the end of the day its just like a store, they can refuse service to anyone they want for whatever reason they want. I believe the reason people feel so strongly about it is that reducing something you have cared for and maintained past that 10 year mark (it's your baby at that point) and presenting it as a blanket "no" with a potential stipulation that pictures "could" get you in offends peoples sensibilities about how their property is viewed. That being said, I subscribed because of this video, I can understand the burden (especially these days) of a campground owner having to deal with an abandoned RV of any sort, and caring for the safety of the other campers. You referenced a reply where a campground owner said he does that with anything that is longer than a 28 day stay which totally makes sense, and I think again highlights the point that not all resorts/parks are the same, and just like they get to choose who stays there, you as a consumer get to choose where to stay.
I am always surprised by people who comment on something without viewing the whole thing! They don’t realize or care how ignorant they sound. We have a 20 year old fifth wheel and have never been turned away because we take good care of it!!! Thanks for your channel
Thanks for watching!
Hello there, We have a 23 y/o Alpenlite Riviera and have to send pictures to many parks to "qualify", understandably. She's a beautifully maintained rig inside and out and better built than 90% of the new rigs manufactured these days. What chaps my hide is upon arrival at some of these parks we see stuff that should be in a recycle yard!
I agree with you that if a campground has a lot of run down rigs, either newer or older, we usually don’t book it or we don’t go back to it. I have seen great looking older rigs and some crappy looking newer rigs.
Same here
Best comment in the video, “older Rv’s are not a protected class under federal law”🤣🤣🤣 Love it ! I know you’re not crazy about Class B’s, however we are about to receive our 2023 New off the lot Midwest Passage MD2 170ext van. Out of all the channels I have seen, (admittedly I only have been watching for about 2 weeks), yours is the best !
Thank you so much 😃
We are with you on this.
I absolutely love your channel and your family values! We sold our property partially because of the HOA rules & the big brother atmosphere. We boondock or dry camp, and that is our choice. I fall in line with Mark Twain, “The more I familiarize myself with people the more I love my dog(s)! I adhere to the view of “You be you & I’ll be me”Take care & be well!
Thanks you too!
Great video. Totally agree with all of this. Thanks.
For people to be angry with you guys is ridiculous. I totally understand why that rule is there.
Charmaine 💜
I don’t want to camp in a campground with junk RV’s. If you have a well maintained 11 plus year old rig…GREAT. That was easy.
So sorry for all the negative feedback. I felt your original video . . & This one . . Was very clear. I understand why campgrounds have that rule. I wish some would be more forthcoming & flexible perhaps. Or clear about how they make exceptions!
I too have seen relatively new units that already looked pretty bad, or had leaky tanks or landing gear etc. I’ve also seen some phenomenal 20+ year old units that were pristine!
Take care of your unit, be prepared with great pic’s & maintenance records if need be.
Y’all were clear & did nothing wrong!!❤
Well if the campground owner allows campers to stay long enough to fall apart then he is a slumlord. I agree that I would not return or even stay at a rundown campground. Safety first for my family. Campground owners make this decision they offer discounts on monthly rentals.
Even State Parks in our state have a two week minimum. This prevents the buildup of unsightly appliances or furniture.
Instead of the ten year rule the Campground owner should say ( We reserve the right to reject poorly maintained RVs.)This would allow older well maintained RVs without causing issues.
We own a 26 year old MH (well maintained) 😊 and we have also been to campgrounds with the run down, neglected units that made us very uncomfortable. I would never return to them. We actually have an affinity for the older ones that are well kept. I thought the video was very informative. Thanks for the follow up vid. You guys are awesome!
Thank you
Your original video was great, fair and informative! I do feel that the “10 year” part of the rule is rather random and should just be focused on the actual problem regardless of age which is “not well maintained”. Call it a “NWM Rule” regardless of age of the rig.
Our camper is an 08. It is well built and extremely clean. We have people who want to buy it. You didn't hurt my feelings. I don't have any.
lol thanks
No apology needed. Not only did most of the keyboard warriors probably not watch the whole video. They probably did not watch most of your other videos. Y’all to a great job putting out content that is beneficial to other RV’ers. So with that you should get a little lead way or benefit of the doubt. I agree with the 10 year rule. Mine is not that old, but when it is, I will have no issue providing proof that is maintained up to standards. On a side note, congrats on your retirement. I am also retired from the job. Bought one of your t-shirts of the American Flag with the little RV’s. Really like it. I too found myself unsubscribed from your channel for some reason, but re-subscribed.
Sometimes I just gotta shake my head. You guys are nice enough to do these videos, to try and help others, to be informative. I can't be;eive others would complain like that, to you, for trying to share something you enjoy while trying to help others. Toe ach, their own, I guess. People forget they have the option of scrolling on by without saying anything and just moving on to the next video.
Thanks for what both of you do. I appreciate it. I find your videos informative, with a sense of humor and a light side , to them. I'm trying to decide whether to buy an RV and I'm glad I found your channel. Please continue to do what you're doing and the complainers can show themselves to the door.
Totally get your point. We are currently at a privately owned campground. There is a mixture of OLD. trailers and one really old faded motor home. Upkeep o an RV is not cheap and requires elbow grease. We have a 2017 Newmar Dutch Star, and she looks great. But it’s because we spend the time and money to keep it up. If I didn’t have the resources to do that I wouldn’t have bought it.
Nothing wrong with going with what you an afford and like. We just partied with a group that am e here with those little two sleeper models with the kitchen in the back. Tiny little trailers. I forgot their model name.
However, not flashy but well maintained and great folks. I could fit two of them in my motor home! ….. But your topic is well taken. No one wants to see a breakdown or accident with old RV’s. They should definitely be maintained and park owners have every right to select what is acceptable to be on their property. For liability at the very least.
Don’t be defensive guys! Your videos share so much valuable RVing information!
To each his or her own. We’ve had an older motorhome and never had an issue at dozens of our favorite campgrounds.
And we understand those that enforce this rule, but we’ve found they are few and far between. We did send photos to a handful of campgrounds who requested them and never an issue. Keep on producing your great, informative videos!
Thanks so much.
😂They didn't watch, but I did! I refused to get back in our nee to us 97 Adventurer, after going camping several times with family members that had very new or nice looking used tts and 5th wheels! It looked like a mechanics dream on outside and very pretty on inside, kinda embarrassing 😂!! So, we upgraded to an beautiful all the way around 07 Sportcoach Elite and have had no issues with it being over 10yrs at campgrounds, but I bet we would have been stopped at gate with Miss Winnie🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣 Have a great Sunday!
I watch and like your channel. I will admit that I disagree with the hard "10 year" rule. ( I DID watch the entire video btw) but I also agree that run down or literally unsafe RV's are a big concern . Boats and dockage at marinas have the same overall issues as well . Just MHO, but I think hard year limits are an RV industry killer....an industry that is obviously struggling as we speak. I DO support verification of compliance and functionality by owners of a facility that somewhat "protects" us all . LOL, you guys just learned that it is very easy to step in a big ole pile of poo even if you had good intentions ......... All the best going forward !
My camper is 25 years old - it is very sophisticated - it has auto dumping of its black and grey tanks. I never need to deal with it.
I watched the video, and I understand the campground owners position. I have an 11 year old toy hauler, and people can’t believe it’s that old. I keep up on the maintenance, and it does take work. I watch many utube videos to anticipate problems, and I take care of issues before they occur.
I have a list of things that get done.
I’ve also seen those rigs that are run down, and I would not want to be parked next to.
We stayed in a campground next to a pretty old, well maintained RV. I asked them if they usually have issues with the ten year rule. They said they generally just send a photo, and it is waved.
But during our stay, the RV owner climbed a ladder to fix something on the slide, and a piece gave way as he was pulling on it, and he fell off the ladder.
It startled many of us who ran to his aid.
He was hurt, but not badly hurt. Praise God. But he did land on his hip on a rock.
It was not an issue for the campground, as the man did not break his hip. And the couple was lovely.
But the age of the RV really did play into this. As it was a piece of rotting rubber that snapped, cause the man to fall.
The whole scenario could have ended so poorly. If the people were different, or the fall resulted in worse injury.
Like I said in my comment on the previous video, I think that there is a difference between transient and seasonal RVs. As a transient, if I am registered, inspected, and insured then the 10-year rule should not apply. If I am safe enough for the highway, I am safe enough for the campground. Yea, yea, I know that it is a private business and they can do what they want. But as you said in the video, I'll speak with my feet. I will be happy to show them my paperwork or photos, but I will never be back.
Great rebuttal to folks who did not watch the video carefully. Tactful but truth.
I don't own an RV and was not sure if that video should make me mad or not (not really), but on another note if a housing neighborhood starts getting folks that let their properties run down, then those who do take care of their properties tend to sell and move away.
Maybe you've addressed this before but I missed it. What is the vehicle you have behind your RV? Are you "flat towing" it? I'm trying to find a vehicle we can flat tow behind our Class C.
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I think you guys put out great content, and I appreciate it and thank you. Those who don't watch a whole video, and just make assumptions, it's their loss for missing the point. Anyone who has followed you a long time, can get a sense of the kind of people that you are, and you are definitely not elitists.
What I’ve often thought about doing is wrapping my RV, which would cost me about six or $7000 but I’m thinking about buying a fifth wheel because I’m just stationary right now and then buying a B+ to travel around in. I’m a 70-year-old man and I enjoy my 1969 Ford Ranchero because of what it is it’s my father‘s car when he was alive and my mother‘s 1977 450 SL Mercedes-Benz Because it was her car when she was alive. So I’d like having older things that are still very nice but yes, I can buy myself an electric truck now and a fifth wheel and be able to join in the crowd to be under 10 years old. I got this Motorhome only four years ago and it belong to a man that took very good care of it most of its life but he let it sit outside and yes, The Son does amazing things to the finish in Southern California. But he always took care of it and he died and then I bought it from his wife and I’ve been living in it ever since it’s been a dream and yes hey check this out. The cloth ceiling, which is a vinyl cloth. The glue came loose and when I bought it, I put base molding from my house cause I’m a retired contractor and I put it up there on the ceiling and hold up the ceiling perfectly and it’s a very very nice rig and well-maintained and talk about maintained talk about the functions and the way it looks but yes, the paint is faded. The stickers are faded because they didn’t use paint for the green and blue on the side because it’s a pace arrow, butI would love to find somebody to go out and travel with and have fun and make a TH-cam channel and have fun and enjoy doing what we do what you’re doing and thank you very much for your information. I appreciate it. I watch all your videos I subscribed to your channel.
You guys have great content and keep us well informed about things in the RV industry and associated camp grounds. I get why camp grounds want to keep old, broke-down, vehicles off their property.
You guys were just giving us information.
I hope my comment on that video was ok. I watched the video! I agree with you on this video and the other one. Thank you clearing the other video up and what it meant. I appreciate it.
Just got back from camping at Frontier Town they have the rule however we did see some really cool older RVs so I’m guessing they do allow if they are in good shape I agree we are on our 5th rv in our 30 year marriage one of which was an old Winnebago we were able to camp at places with the rule after sending a picture…let’s be real same thing with houses a poorly maintained house creates problems including hazards same thing in my opinion with a campground
Hello, I AGREE with your previous video ENTIRELY, We have a 10-year-old travel trailer (2014 KZ Sportsmen). It is in 100% showroom condition, if not better. We bought it new and since owning it have maintained it every year, including making the RV better with upgrades. I have recently bumped into this situation at a local campground in CT. I made a reservation in person, without my RV and they asked yr the make and model of the RV. They said it's at the 10-year mark and they would need to see pictures. I showed them pics from my phone and the owners were very impressed, actually couldn't believe it was this nice. I don't understand how viewers aren't understanding the point you are making. It's for the good of the campground and everyone's safety who stays there. Thanks for this video, take care of your RV and it will take care of you.
I'm glad Ft. Wilderness doesn't have that rule. We're soon heading out with our 22 year old Sunline. It's in good condition, but by body style alone, it's obviously an old unit. Even if I sent a photo, it's not going to pass for under 10.
...we have 16 a y/o Jayco Eagle 5th wheel and have maintained the appearance every year with regular waxing and immediate repairs when needed... unfortunately the sun has caused the decals to crack and fade which makes the RV show it's age.. we have stayed in many beautiful resorts where the 10 yr rule has been listed on their website, however after a polite conversation with the office staff, we have never been denied entry... I agree it's a rare occurrence where the campground refuses entry but I do believe it is their right to manage their property as they like... I appreciate a beautiful/well maintained resort as I'm sure the campground owners appreciate the same from their customers and their RV's.. because of this rule, we are now looking for a new unit as we travel from Alberta to the U.S every year and would rather not worry about it any longer... keep up the great videos...
Thanks for sharing!
For me the arbitrary 10yr rule is just one flag for a poorly managed park, that is also more than likely to also have issues with unruly people, pets and kids and/or cranky eccentric owner/operators. I tend to avoid such parks since I've had way more issues with the latter as opposed to a 10yrs old rv - well maintained or not. I think some of the nicest more interesting folks I've met are in older not so well maintained RV's but to each their own. Best parks in my travels tend to talk to their customers prior to taking a reservation and are pretty good at managing their clientele (often times to the detriment of making more money). That said, it's a free country and we're all free to operate our businesses and spend our money how we see fit.
I get it and if you keep your rig in good condition then send it photos. I would not want to be parked next to a broken down rig. sad that people jump to conclusions. Keep up the great work.