We have all seen Hikaru demolish 99% of chess players in real time while he is discussing his thought process, plus he already was well known as the best or second best speed chess player in history way before he became a streamer. A nonsensical accusation.
I don’t think hikaru is cheating, but him explaining his moves isn’t really relevant. I’m 1500 and can explain a reason for most computer moves once I see them. It’s a pretty rare moment when hikaru can’t explain a stockfish move, and even then, he could just avoid playing them.
@@mikemck4796a lot of the times it's just intuition. These GMs have reached similar positions countless times so they already know the right moves before they even know why
False, cheating can be totally automated and if you’re hardcore you could theoretically script your cursor to move pieces just like people do when aimbotting in cod etc Edit: there’s 0% chance he cheated, but yeah the speed thing is nonsense. You can do way more with computers than the average chess player seems to realize
@@ishtiaqueparvez9269 a computer programmer, who plays chess and follows the community response and sentiment towards the issue. The time useage argument is fairly common, and a noob cheater would be bound by this. Specifically I work with AI and machine learning. Technology is at a point where you can scan a board state programmatically, and feed it to AI systems that don’t just play good moves, but actually replicate high level human play, right down to the expected way that humans use their time, or move their cursor. Mind you this is more sophisticated than most cheaters are likely to do, but there are fairly simple classical programming solutions that can accomplish similarly difficult to detect results. Even reading the board state in real time is sufficient to introduce delay artificially by the player, and in combination with selective engine use would be quite hard to distinguish from false positives. There’s no need to be alt tabbing to an engine and looking at moves when the board can be scanned in and moves can be displayed, hint arrows overlayed, along with custom evaluate bars etc if desirable. This last method is extremely easy to implement as well. If your argument is that streaming would give that away, totally wrong again, because you can stream only the browser window with a cheat overlay being invisible to watchers. You can process move data and have it passed over audio. Physical cameras don’t solve the issue either, because you can programmatically alter the camera’s I/O such that it looks legitimate. Doing that is outside the capability of most, but the reality is that it’s totally possible and with sufficient motivation could be done. And again to be clear, there’s no way I’m questioning Hikaru’s legitimacy. My point is just that what is possible with technology exceeds the wildest expectations of many people. Making a snap judgement about the time it takes a cheater to play really doesn’t do the issue justice. It’s still possible that the average player realizes all of this, and the most vocal people simply say things that would imply otherwise. However, I don’t have sufficient reason to believe that is the case. We can debate the sufficient reason to say anything at all, but ultimately reasoning is probabilistic in nature. given my experience I think it’s most probable that the average player doesn’t-my estimation would change in light of new information.
@@Leipaaboth were actually suspect. Anyone would understand why the allegations became so deep. Speaking about midgame lines the way he did is probably what caught GMs attention. I think Hans is special, but beating a super GM one game and then lose badly to a IM in the next. Explain that
@@stefankljajic8771I can explain that. Gelfand lost in the World Cup round 1 (knocked out) to Cristobal Henrique Villagra, an IM at the time. I can dig up other examples like 2800 Anand losing to 2550 Pascal Charbonneau etc. No top 10 player will lose to an IM any time soon because they will never play one. If they did play 2500 levels opponents regularly, there would be some 200+ elo point upset losses. Maybe up to 5% of the time. A 200 point Elo difference means a 25% score, and that's not all draws. Upset losses happen with
@@stefankljajic8771of course Hans has had more upsets than anyone else at his rating because he has been blacklisted and doesn't get invites. He has to play 2400 - 2600 players and loses points every event unless he scores really well. In the long run the math balances better but of course he will have more variability and fluctuation. Which sucks for him because somehow both his wins and losses are equally evidence of cheating. 😂
@@krispyweet8239skill has nothing to do with cheating. Just look at speed running. Often the most prolific cheaters are also the best players. Not to say I think Hikaru is cheating
@@krispyweet8239 not really a good argument. I dont think Hikaru cheated. But the point that skilled people dont need to cheat is a false premise, as actually cheating is most common at the top leagues of games
@@silversalmon9909yes but he usually loses regularly, and it is possible to assume if that he can win speed chess championships, he can win classical ones sometimes as well
@@Chessplayer81837 I don't think so. Classical chess is very different to speed chess. Someone gifted in speed like Hikaru who is #2 arguably #1 in blitz games is only around #20 in classical
Crazy that danya has become kramniks point of attack a year later hikaru predicted this nonsense slightly comical actually and yes nepo still says hikaru is a cheater a year later
@@shreyashh2 How is that meat ride Magnus has won 6 world blitz champions offline He is basically the best 3+1 blitz player online too with hikaru and is also slightly better than hikaru in 1+1 And the second best 1+0 bullet player
I listened to the whole kramnik podcast and never got the impression he thought Hikaru was cheating, He mentoned Hikaru and Magnus a lot as references for known strong players who didn't cheat, compared to some online players who somehow had better stats. Unless there's some other behind the suspicions that were not on the podcast.
I think Kramnik hates the headphones and made a significant point about it. Kramnik honestly needs to go on stream in an unranked game and show how someone could cheat in Blitz
@@davddd81 you could route digital audio cables such that a call with someone avoids all the streaming to vet your honesty and only goes to your headphones, but if Hikaru was doing that to pretend to be good his performance would drop off a cliff live and it doesn't.
If someone is saying u r cheating then they need get their brains tested …freakin outrageous…you are best chess player for me dude keep up your hard work 🤘🏻
It’s still astonishing to me that people don’t realize that it’s fairly trivial to automate the entire cheating process. Bro if people can get pixel perfect headshots with aimbots, and frame perfect dodges in mobas, do you really think a mechanically simple, and static game, like chess, could not be scripted? Read info from screen->post process->hand to engine->get result->execute scripted action. Sheesh. Btw he didn’t cheat but all these comments about speed are giga clueless
@user-im4xu1nd5n lots of people have very little to no understanding of modern computing and how to use code or programs to cheat. They think that if it's hard to understand its impossible
@@OceanOfTears-z2dthe thing is the actual speed anything above stockfish 6 takes to find the best move is literally slower than the speed Hikaru plays Like even if you discount every other time delay, he’d at best have to use stockfish 1-6 And stockfish 1-6 is literally worse than him… Like they don’t find the best move in 0.3 seconds
@@OceanOfTears-z2d Yeah i was gonna say the same. People are like: "but you can't cheat in bullet though" no, you absolutely can. I don't think Hikaru is, but do not make the mistake of thinking it cannot be done.
@@universalplayz7496no, with a fast enough processor, it can easily be beneficial, even for a top GM. Sure, you won't get full depth, but for bullet you don't need full depth at all for it to be an aid.
Don't think cheating is a thing at all with a player like Hikaru. However, a player at the 2750+ level could cheat 1-2x in a critical juncture(s) in a critical game and I doubt anybody would know the difference. I think that's the scary thing at the top levels of the game.
I mean that’s something that can happen in any game or sport like there’s literally no way of solving that problem When someone cheats in like 1 situation out of 10000 games it’d just impossible to catch
hikaru played 30 seconds chess recently and felt like the same usual hikaru so imo he doesnt cheat. pretty sure hikaru can beat 99% of top players in 30 second chess too.
I don't think you are cheating at all. 0% HOWEVER, I don't think it would be as hard to cheat as you seem to think it is. The headphones alone are a major vulnerability.
The stream of the event has a delay. Unless he is sharing a screen with someone, the suggestions would come too late to be played. And sharing the screen with someone is a bit hard to do when your PC is being monitored
The list of people good enough to make better moves than Hikaru in extreme time pressure, who can then help him cheat by whispering in his earphones, are vanishingly small 👀
One could relatively* easily write software to interpret the board graphically, process the next move in stockfish or whatever, and send a short text-to-speech, "e4" through headphones. If you're very low on time, it probably is too slow, but you won't be low on time because your position will be basically perfect throughout the game and you will certainly have more time than your opponent. Of course most people aren't going to do this, but if you're talking about world championships, we have seen time and again that some people are willing to do whatever it takes to get an edge.
@@them4309 but that software would also need to be invisible, because most likely the players have a monitoring software installed on their pc's in this kind of online tournaments. I am not saying it's completely impossible to cheat with headphones with a delayed stream, while screen sharing with the arbiters and while having a monitoring software on your pc, but it's much more difficult than people are trying to say. It's probably easier to cheat OTB in probably 80% of the tournaments that aren't super high level and don't have metal detectors and such.
Kramnik is old school now. He doesn't get the abilities of computer educated and computer experienced (playing tons of games against computers) grandmasters of today.
Question for next Mornin Meeting: This is kind of inspired by this episode, but was wondering if you’ve thought about adding a Quality Control position? I’ve seen a few videos the last couple months with weird freezes/bad audios/abrupt cuts/etc and I get that with the amount of content you guys put out errors are inevitable, which is why I think having someone whose entire job is just to watch the video either before or right after it’s published (if it’s a TH-cam uploading issue) would be helpful. If so, I would like to apply, lol
Actually it’s not true, I watched whole video where Kramnik talks about cheating, he never said Hikaru cheated, he said people tend to not cheat against Hikaru or Magnus, he even gave Hikaru same respect as Magnus, he always said Hikaru’s name next to Magnus name
While being on the wrong side of a cheating accusation hopefully teaches Hikaru to be more careful about sharing his opinions about these kinds of controversies publicly (like the Hans Niemann saga), Kramnik is honestly just a senile old man at this point.
I don't think Kramnik is a bad person, but now that he's got it into his head that Hikaru is cheating, he'll do literally anything to bend statistics to prove it, no matter how much evidence is placed against him. Eventually, in his mind, Hikaru will become the "villain," and he will become the "misunderstood hero." How the mighty have fallen.
Man, Hikaru is one of the last people I would suspect of cheating. He literally tells you the thought process behind his moves .
We have all seen Hikaru demolish 99% of chess players in real time while he is discussing his thought process, plus he already was well known as the best or second best speed chess player in history way before he became a streamer. A nonsensical accusation.
I don’t think hikaru is cheating, but him explaining his moves isn’t really relevant. I’m 1500 and can explain a reason for most computer moves once I see them. It’s a pretty rare moment when hikaru can’t explain a stockfish move, and even then, he could just avoid playing them.
@@mikemck4796 ego is crazy
@@mikemck4796a lot of the times it's just intuition. These GMs have reached similar positions countless times so they already know the right moves before they even know why
@@mikemck4796 Damn, you cannot complain about selfconfidence.
It would genuinely take longer for Hikaru to cheat than him actually playing his moves
False, cheating can be totally automated and if you’re hardcore you could theoretically script your cursor to move pieces just like people do when aimbotting in cod etc
Edit: there’s 0% chance he cheated, but yeah the speed thing is nonsense. You can do way more with computers than the average chess player seems to realize
@@OceanOfTears-z2d how does that work with premoves?
@@OceanOfTears-z2d "average chess players realise", sir who are you?
@@ishtiaqueparvez9269 a computer programmer, who plays chess and follows the community response and sentiment towards the issue. The time useage argument is fairly common, and a noob cheater would be bound by this. Specifically I work with AI and machine learning.
Technology is at a point where you can scan a board state programmatically, and feed it to AI systems that don’t just play good moves, but actually replicate high level human play, right down to the expected way that humans use their time, or move their cursor.
Mind you this is more sophisticated than most cheaters are likely to do, but there are fairly simple classical programming solutions that can accomplish similarly difficult to detect results. Even reading the board state in real time is sufficient to introduce delay artificially by the player, and in combination with selective engine use would be quite hard to distinguish from false positives. There’s no need to be alt tabbing to an engine and looking at moves when the board can be scanned in and moves can be displayed, hint arrows overlayed, along with custom evaluate bars etc if desirable. This last method is extremely easy to implement as well.
If your argument is that streaming would give that away, totally wrong again, because you can stream only the browser window with a cheat overlay being invisible to watchers. You can process move data and have it passed over audio. Physical cameras don’t solve the issue either, because you can programmatically alter the camera’s I/O such that it looks legitimate. Doing that is outside the capability of most, but the reality is that it’s totally possible and with sufficient motivation could be done.
And again to be clear, there’s no way I’m questioning Hikaru’s legitimacy. My point is just that what is possible with technology exceeds the wildest expectations of many people. Making a snap judgement about the time it takes a cheater to play really doesn’t do the issue justice.
It’s still possible that the average player realizes all of this, and the most vocal people simply say things that would imply otherwise. However, I don’t have sufficient reason to believe that is the case. We can debate the sufficient reason to say anything at all, but ultimately reasoning is probabilistic in nature. given my experience I think it’s most probable that the average player doesn’t-my estimation would change in light of new information.
@@ishtiaqueparvez9269there was a guy who cheated in bullet who had a bot playing the top engine move instantly so hes not wrong lol
Hikaru is just that guy
What guy
@@muzoshyour not "that guy"
@@muzosh Basically, Hikaru is HIM
@@muzosh Another way to describe someone who just has that dog in em
what does it mean
Hikaru’s games and commentary speak for themself. We should remember the difference between a Hans’ attempted explanation of his win against Magnus
His chess speaks for itself
Hans's commentary of his Magnus win was fine. It was the commentary on the Alireza game the next day that people started criticizing.
@@Leipaaboth were actually suspect. Anyone would understand why the allegations became so deep. Speaking about midgame lines the way he did is probably what caught GMs attention. I think Hans is special, but beating a super GM one game and then lose badly to a IM in the next. Explain that
@@stefankljajic8771I can explain that. Gelfand lost in the World Cup round 1 (knocked out) to Cristobal Henrique Villagra, an IM at the time. I can dig up other examples like 2800 Anand losing to 2550 Pascal Charbonneau etc. No top 10 player will lose to an IM any time soon because they will never play one. If they did play 2500 levels opponents regularly, there would be some 200+ elo point upset losses. Maybe up to 5% of the time. A 200 point Elo difference means a 25% score, and that's not all draws. Upset losses happen with
@@stefankljajic8771of course Hans has had more upsets than anyone else at his rating because he has been blacklisted and doesn't get invites. He has to play 2400 - 2600 players and loses points every event unless he scores really well. In the long run the math balances better but of course he will have more variability and fluctuation. Which sucks for him because somehow both his wins and losses are equally evidence of cheating. 😂
Topalov seeing that Kramnik is the one making the cheating accusations now: 👀🤐
Lol
people are too young to understand what you mean.
@@Kraterlandschaft I had 2 years at the time, lol.
@@MarcoMT0412 French?
@@grmpf french what?
He knew it was coming to Danya
"i'm sure it's gonna get clipped" *proceed on clipping it himself*
Well technically it's his social media person. He doesn't run the GMHikaru channel himself.
@@Leipaa okay i see
Yeah it's his editor 😅
As fast as Hikaru plays, with the insight that he gives at the same time, no way is he cheating. Anyone who says otherwise is just a sore loser.
It is weird how much better he is online. He is the clear number 2 goat online, while not winning any blitz tournaments otb? Why?
@@jwatson181premoves.....
there's certain psychological effects with games otb
Literally thinking speed vs actual hand speed mouse click preemoves vs actually having to move the pieces
@@jwatson181 Im pretty sure he has said multiple times that he prefers online over otb but Im sure he is much more relaxed online then otb.
Hikaru plays extremely fast. There is no room for cheating. Common you guys wake up
he’s also a world renowned grandmaster who has shown remarkable skill over many year.. he has no need to cheat
@@krispyweet8239skill has nothing to do with cheating. Just look at speed running. Often the most prolific cheaters are also the best players. Not to say I think Hikaru is cheating
@@krispyweet8239 not really a good argument. I dont think Hikaru cheated. But the point that skilled people dont need to cheat is a false premise, as actually cheating is most common at the top leagues of games
@@silversalmon9909yes but he usually loses regularly, and it is possible to assume if that he can win speed chess championships, he can win classical ones sometimes as well
@@Chessplayer81837 I don't think so. Classical chess is very different to speed chess. Someone gifted in speed like Hikaru who is #2 arguably #1 in blitz games is only around #20 in classical
Crazy that danya has become kramniks point of attack a year later hikaru predicted this nonsense slightly comical actually and yes nepo still says hikaru is a cheater a year later
I mean Hikaru can explain his previous games with his eyes closed while playing another game all at the same time
If you think Hikaru Nakamura out of all people is cheating… then anybody and everybody is cheating
Not magnus. Cause magnus is better both online and offline.
@@CRITIC210meat riding is crazy
@@shreyashh2 oh you support prag that's ok but we support magnus is meat ride. Well than I will say virat kohli is you real father.
@@shreyashh2 because your m ride virat kohli all day
@@shreyashh2
How is that meat ride
Magnus has won 6 world blitz champions offline
He is basically the best 3+1 blitz player online too with hikaru and is also slightly better than hikaru in 1+1
And the second best 1+0 bullet player
This was 100% accurate
I listened to the whole kramnik podcast and never got the impression he thought Hikaru was cheating, He mentoned Hikaru and Magnus a lot as references for known strong players who didn't cheat, compared to some online players who somehow had better stats.
Unless there's some other behind the suspicions that were not on the podcast.
I think Kramnik hates the headphones and made a significant point about it. Kramnik honestly needs to go on stream in an unranked game and show how someone could cheat in Blitz
@@davddd81 you could route digital audio cables such that a call with someone avoids all the streaming to vet your honesty and only goes to your headphones, but if Hikaru was doing that to pretend to be good his performance would drop off a cliff live and it doesn't.
@@davddd81multiple gms have been caught before cheating in blitz. Hans coach for example is one of them. He cheated in blitz.
Yes there were.
If someone is saying u r cheating then they need get their brains tested …freakin outrageous…you are best chess player for me dude keep up your hard work 🤘🏻
This aged well
Ah yes, Hikaru must've won the online bullet championship by cheating. That must be it. That's definitely physically possible to do.
It’s still astonishing to me that people don’t realize that it’s fairly trivial to automate the entire cheating process. Bro if people can get pixel perfect headshots with aimbots, and frame perfect dodges in mobas, do you really think a mechanically simple, and static game, like chess, could not be scripted? Read info from screen->post process->hand to engine->get result->execute scripted action. Sheesh. Btw he didn’t cheat but all these comments about speed are giga clueless
@user-im4xu1nd5n lots of people have very little to no understanding of modern computing and how to use code or programs to cheat. They think that if it's hard to understand its impossible
@@OceanOfTears-z2dthe thing is the actual speed anything above stockfish 6 takes to find the best move is literally slower than the speed Hikaru plays
Like even if you discount every other time delay, he’d at best have to use stockfish 1-6
And stockfish 1-6 is literally worse than him…
Like they don’t find the best move in 0.3 seconds
@@OceanOfTears-z2d Yeah i was gonna say the same. People are like: "but you can't cheat in bullet though" no, you absolutely can. I don't think Hikaru is, but do not make the mistake of thinking it cannot be done.
@@universalplayz7496no, with a fast enough processor, it can easily be beneficial, even for a top GM. Sure, you won't get full depth, but for bullet you don't need full depth at all for it to be an aid.
Who would have thought we'd we talking about this again two months later?
Question: Has Kramnik ever played someone he didn’t think was cheating?
anyone who has played, but never beaten him, is not a cheater. Anyone who is a better player, or has even gotten one win, must be cheating.
He sat at the chess board and played with himself. Results inconclusive.. but it was messy
Before the computer suggest the first move, the damn demon is already playing on move 10 or 20 that's how Hikaru's demon-ish power works
YESS. Hikaru premoving like an engine
Don't think cheating is a thing at all with a player like Hikaru. However, a player at the 2750+ level could cheat 1-2x in a critical juncture(s) in a critical game and I doubt anybody would know the difference. I think that's the scary thing at the top levels of the game.
I mean that’s something that can happen in any game or sport like there’s literally no way of solving that problem
When someone cheats in like 1 situation out of 10000 games it’d just impossible to catch
Hikaru doesn't need to cheat ,cheater needs hikaru
Kramnik lighting his own reputation on fire by attacking Hikaru.
hikaru played 30 seconds chess recently and felt like the same usual hikaru so imo he doesnt cheat. pretty sure hikaru can beat 99% of top players in 30 second chess too.
Why don’t these tournaments require behind the back cameras showing their monitors and call it a day
He drinks water out of the same mug I drink my beers in lmao wtf what a power move
Hikaru has proven himself over the board in speed, blitz, bullet and classical. He doesn't need to cheat.
Obligatory "this aged well" comment
Yes, two of the best bullet players are cheating while premoving 5 moves. 😂
I don't think you are cheating at all. 0% HOWEVER, I don't think it would be as hard to cheat as you seem to think it is. The headphones alone are a major vulnerability.
true. he played 30 second chess just a while ago and imo headphones wont be fast enough for that
The stream of the event has a delay. Unless he is sharing a screen with someone, the suggestions would come too late to be played. And sharing the screen with someone is a bit hard to do when your PC is being monitored
The list of people good enough to make better moves than Hikaru in extreme time pressure, who can then help him cheat by whispering in his earphones, are vanishingly small 👀
One could relatively* easily write software to interpret the board graphically, process the next move in stockfish or whatever, and send a short text-to-speech, "e4" through headphones. If you're very low on time, it probably is too slow, but you won't be low on time because your position will be basically perfect throughout the game and you will certainly have more time than your opponent. Of course most people aren't going to do this, but if you're talking about world championships, we have seen time and again that some people are willing to do whatever it takes to get an edge.
@@them4309 but that software would also need to be invisible, because most likely the players have a monitoring software installed on their pc's in this kind of online tournaments. I am not saying it's completely impossible to cheat with headphones with a delayed stream, while screen sharing with the arbiters and while having a monitoring software on your pc, but it's much more difficult than people are trying to say. It's probably easier to cheat OTB in probably 80% of the tournaments that aren't super high level and don't have metal detectors and such.
Incredible the Postal Service moment in this one
Kramnik cannot accept Hikaru's speed because he is old, slow and less talented
Hikaru can’t think as slow as kramnik if he tried
Hikaru: “this is probably gonna get clipped or something”
Also hikaru: *clips it for his own YT channel*
when you are too good even former world champ think that you are cheating
Kramnik has gone full Fischer 😂
" i am sure it's gonna get clipped"
Proceeds to clip it himself.😂
Play so well they accuse you of being a cheater
if someone thought i was so good that they think im using stockfish then i'd take it as a compliment
I think it’s the idea of trying to discredit his skill in the game
Definitely the last two guys I would suspect ever
Hikaru plays waay too fast to cheat. Maybe Kramnik got fooled by those ceiling looks😂
Danyas best impressions are of Kramnik getting beaten by 12yo Indian kids named big booty judy💀
Hikaru has bad sportsmanship but he can't ever be suspected of cheating, neither is Danya.
I'm sorry to hear something like that from Kramnik without concrete evidence.😢
Love him or hate him, hikaru is just that guy. The credibility is just strong on him
Ok Hikaru. Let's start the Procedure!
Kramnik went bazonga. He got the wrong person on the other end
Yes. Hikaru is cheating on 30 second bullet 😂😂😂
And Danya idolizes Kramnik so I can imagine hearing your hero accusing you of cheating. That's tough bro
Kramnik is old school now. He doesn't get the abilities of computer educated and computer experienced (playing tons of games against computers) grandmasters of today.
Hikaru after beating everyone, especially Magnus, "Chess speaks for itself"
Don’t judge kramnik, but be genuinely afraid of becoming kramnik
Well take it as a compliment
You come at the king, you best not miss
Hikaru can obviously accuse kramnik of cheating for his wcc match against topalov but he dosent
Kramnik is actually making chess entertaining again. Because now we can have fun at him.
Grumpy old kramnik
He never claimed you were cheating… what are you on about.
The song choice is perfect lol crazy Aerosmith
It’s probably going to get clipped. Bro you clipped it
You know you're too good when they started accusing you of cheating 😆
Lol the low key shade at danya
He knew it
Kramnik is crazy. He went apeshit.
Hikaru should stop false accusations
How can anyone possibly think Hikaru of all people is cheating??😂 he literally explains all his moves when he plays
Hikaru : I know this is going to be clipped
Hikaru : Thanks for the tip
kramnik is just too slow to follow them and understand what happen
No way. He is too genuine to cheat.
Question for next Mornin Meeting: This is kind of inspired by this episode, but was wondering if you’ve thought about adding a Quality Control position? I’ve seen a few videos the last couple months with weird freezes/bad audios/abrupt cuts/etc and I get that with the amount of content you guys put out errors are inevitable, which is why I think having someone whose entire job is just to watch the video either before or right after it’s published (if it’s a TH-cam uploading issue) would be helpful. If so, I would like to apply, lol
Hikaru sold Hans his old set of beads.
Now he is accusing Nihal sarin.
I guess he just hate speed players🤣
Hikaru using Beads!
_Before others make clips without context of what I say, I better do it 😎🤙_
Imagine being so good at blitz as a grandmaster
That a has been top 10 grandmaster thinks they are cheating .
Topalov has joined the chat.
I feel like what Ian means is not hikaru cheating but as one of the biggest chess streamers, him leading by example
@@HenryLobberhe said “hikaru is allowed to wear headphones in a tournament 😱” in a tweet which gave implications
This person started indirect cheating speculations right after Magnus accused Hans for OTB cheating. So this is really interesting.
Hilary is that guy ngl
since when is Hilary Clinton a guy?
@@tonytheboatfergusonHe meant Hilaru i guess
@@Sweet_Jelly39 Hilaru? Is that Hilary’s evil twin or something?
If you are as slow with the mouse as Kramnik, being as fast as Nakamura seems to be like cheating. :-)
Bruh imagine getting to the top tier of your craft just to be accused of cheating. 😮
This is months ago, so the drama had been brewing for some time.
Pretty annoying when someone accuses you of cheating with no tangible evidence isn’t it?
Hikaru and Danya? Extremely hard to believe. If I was them I would take this as a compliment
Damn this aged so well
This is not about cheating in chess it's all about cheating with his girlfriend
It's called practice. If you build your skill up people will think you are cheating.
Hikaru literally got his skill in chess by playing quick games
You don’t need to cheat when you can do 20 premoves
idk, it's worth investigating. let's put hikaru butt naked in a dark room with a blindfold on and have him play ian and kramnik over a loud speaker.
This is aging well.
Lol here we go
Actually it’s not true, I watched whole video where Kramnik talks about cheating, he never said Hikaru cheated, he said people tend to not cheat against Hikaru or Magnus, he even gave Hikaru same respect as Magnus, he always said Hikaru’s name next to Magnus name
that wasn't Ian's point though
Hikaru is like the fake roided guy of chess
While being on the wrong side of a cheating accusation hopefully teaches Hikaru to be more careful about sharing his opinions about these kinds of controversies publicly (like the Hans Niemann saga), Kramnik is honestly just a senile old man at this point.
Hikaru just doesn't care
I don't think Kramnik is a bad person, but now that he's got it into his head that Hikaru is cheating, he'll do literally anything to bend statistics to prove it, no matter how much evidence is placed against him. Eventually, in his mind, Hikaru will become the "villain," and he will become the "misunderstood hero." How the mighty have fallen.
That’s such a great compliment if you’re not cheating
F Kramnik.