Great video again! The suspension and tyres seem to be a great upgrade choice. I can just image the difference it would make to the overall riding experience 👌
Definatelty best upgrades, I want same for 190 but can't find long enough shock unless I use a link. Wont be as effective so will keep looking. Ordered the shifter you recommended looks a good shape. Cheers bud 👍
Great vid mate and your right about the standard bars, one fall and my bars are bent so think the pro tapers are my next set and the wheels and tires lol and suspension so as soon as Xmas is over it’s time to spend some money on the 170 and the 190
They're not great original 1s compared to a decent set. Cant believe the abuse mine have taken and still straight. Same here got some cosmetics and a few bits and bobs to do to 190 once I've ridden it again to confirm fixed. 3rd time lucky. I'm 190 I want to get rid off wpb on it. Looked for a shock but can't find good 1 that long yet
My pitster is a peace moto 125cc The best mods I have done is a carb swap for a bigger carb with fuel or air adjustments and a rear chock that has more sag adjustments or just over all better quality and the ability to be stiffer than stock ones It allowed me to have more power in general and way better agility in jumps and corners Other mods I did were better grips Exhaust swap for a silencer thats similar to an fmf one and put a spacer to get it father from the tire. Often pit bikes have the silencer sitting almost on top of the tire and when the suspension compresses it can get hit by the tire Specific bolts like the ones that hold your handle bars or the exhaust heather the rest were fine
what shock did you use i have a apollo 18 with stock shock and its horrible. did you have to change the fork to get it to work? please get back with me thanks .
I used a dnm 295mm hornet. It completely changed the bike upgrading the shock. Will work better combined with front forks but massive difference just on its own.
hi i have a 140cc welsh pit bike iv recently fitted a 1/4 nibbi throttle but now iv noticed if i blip the throttle from idle or go straight to wide open the bike goes to die. iv tried to adjust the air/fuel screw and tried all possible needle positions with no joy other than this the bike starts, idles and rides fine any ideas ? iv looked at a nibbi 26mmPE but im not sure if this is this issue ?
Any of the main brands is good really and depends on terrain. Michelin, dunlop, kenda, maxxis etc... I buy from ebay then I'm protected. Sometimes it takes me time to reply unless abuse. Hope this helps
This is m-tech from cw racing. Dnm and fast ace was also an option, I picked cheapest only by about £20 though. Very pleased compared to standard rubbish
If the pit bike air filter gets too wet it will make the bike run rubbish. Depends how wet it gets. If consistently riding in the rain I would probably consider one of those options
Most things now are made in China then someone else sticks another name on it. Wpb is Chinese just s9ld from Wales. A cw or rfx is a better quality build
Possibly but they wouldn't be as good as a Japanese bikes front end. Kx65 I've seen people use the front end, brakes also but they've all got the upgraded controller and battery so weight not an issue so much I suppose ? Good thinking tho
Hey the uni air filters are good and the 1s ooracing co.uk do on line They work for me off road better than stock ones. If road riding then there are probably better options 🤷 Hope this helps
They are good especially if slightly taller you get more knee room and obviously more robust. I just searched on ebay for pro taper pit bike bars and these came up. So unsure of exact number
@@stevenwhitworth3200 mine when cold may take 6 kicks max if not ridden for a while. If you got the technique right then it can only be timing, tappets might need adjusting. Failing that, I've never used it yet but I got easy start for emergencies. They are difficult to start. The new 1s have decompression valve to help
@@motomachinezuk8786 timing and tappets spot on can’t fathom it. Did the tappets at 0.10 and 0.15. Added a new spark plug. Think the carbs set there or there abouts. It’s not even run in this bike it’s probs had an hours running time. Think that’s the reason it was sold the girl couldn’t start it up.
hey dude good video, you got any tips for tuning my new 140cc carb? its bogging in 3rd and 4th from new, its a mikuni carb that come with the bike i can imagine its not genuine, thanks dude
Hello mate weird usually set up out of the box, can try air mixture screw for starters as probably not much to do. You checked carb jets are clean because that needs to be checked before any changes. Thank you appreciate the support
@@motomachinezuk8786 Thanks dude ill have a look at that, the jets should be clean as it was brand new when i got it and it was bogging straight away, i will double check them though, keep up the good content man, especially liking the surron videos
I wouldn't say I prefer but very much enjoy the smaller displacement engines and suit the terrain and few areas I can ride local. Big bikes if I had the land and terrain plus people to ride with. Pit bikes feel safer on my own and they are cheap and cheerful aswell as they don't damage the riding areas in winter so I don't get moaned at lol. I enjoy all 2 wheeled machines even a 50cc scotter puts a smile on my face and thats why I ride. Love the motocross stuff but been difficult to ride this year and fill appetite
@@motomachinezuk8786 nothing better than getting out for a rip makes you feel alive I recently got back into bikes after about 18 years so glad I did feel like a notty teenager again gona stick with the pitbikes for now man they are so much fun throwing them around and them occasionally throwing you off 😂😂
@@johnspeirs525 wow a long rest from them 18yrs. Glad to hear back in the seat and loving it. Maybe I ride because of those reasons too, my get away. They are more forgiving when they do go down, alot safer than being stuck under a full size dirt bike. I agree great fun getting on pit bike, I like the 4 stroke junior thumpers and really easy plus cheap to fix and maintain
@@motomachinezuk8786 I am tempted to buy a CRF150 RB to mess around on but feel as if when I’m leaving the pit bikes behind should make a proper jump into the 250 four strokes but kinda got the same problem with limited places to ride them without going to a track and I enjoy trail riding more than I do the tracks
@@johnspeirs525 no pit bike always needed as well as big bike lol then you got more options. The crf150r does look fun and as small will be agile. They do rip better than a Chinese pit bike just quite expensive and maintenance more expensive and regular. Hopefully I shall try 1 someday.
At what point should you have bought a better pit bike ? Or just moved up to a used dirt bike ? You can get a decent dirt bike for 2000-2500 I’d be hesitant to spend over 13-1400 total on a Chinese bike .
That is a good question. I also ride a 250 4 stroke as main bike but pit bike works so well on the land I can ride, often in the woods it's quite small and tight so the pitty works perfect and I feel safer riding alone on smaller bike. So for me I feel its the best and most fun choice for where I can ride on private land. To be fair I know what you mean, I just find easy to just jump on whenever I want and go local without having to look after it like I do my 250. Great fun also 👌 You don't get much for 2 to 2.5k now and if you get a problem or needs a rebuild that could be another 1000 easy. Especially when putting on lots of hours as they require more vigorous maintenance.
I would say get a twin pot front break and 220mm discs for safety sake and for weight saving I would say buy a set of Cw forks and a Cw billet swing arm with the wracing wheels for strength 👌
I've never seen uprated front brake calipers as standard are poor. Seen bigger disks. Got the wheels and they are decent. Front forks and swing arm I need to investigate. Cheers for input 👍
Same here if I replace things then I try to get cw stuff, I thinks its like the American bbr? Is that the expensive exhaust system they have ? Need to find these better brakes
Great video again! The suspension and tyres seem to be a great upgrade choice. I can just image the difference it would make to the overall riding experience 👌
Definatelty best upgrades, I want same for 190 but can't find long enough shock unless I use a link. Wont be as effective so will keep looking. Ordered the shifter you recommended looks a good shape. Cheers bud 👍
Great vid mate and your right about the standard bars, one fall and my bars are bent so think the pro tapers are my next set and the wheels and tires lol and suspension so as soon as Xmas is over it’s time to spend some money on the 170 and the 190
They're not great original 1s compared to a decent set. Cant believe the abuse mine have taken and still straight. Same here got some cosmetics and a few bits and bobs to do to 190 once I've ridden it again to confirm fixed. 3rd time lucky. I'm 190 I want to get rid off wpb on it. Looked for a shock but can't find good 1 that long yet
Would you mind throwing up links for us?
I agree with the tires and shocks. As for the other, I avoid running my bike into trees! And I've learned how to stay on top of my bike.
Do you think ttr 110 plastics would fit that particular bike they look to be of ttr 110cc style
My pitster is a peace moto 125cc
The best mods I have done is a carb swap for a bigger carb with fuel or air adjustments and a rear chock that has more sag adjustments or just over all better quality and the ability to be stiffer than stock ones
It allowed me to have more power in general and way better agility in jumps and corners
Other mods I did were
better grips
Exhaust swap for a silencer thats similar to an fmf one and put a spacer to get it father from the tire. Often pit bikes have the silencer sitting almost on top of the tire and when the suspension compresses it can get hit by the tire
Specific bolts like the ones that hold your handle bars or the exhaust heather the rest were fine
Where are you going trail riding on these do let us know
Have you got links to all these mods?
What size wheels do you have?
What’s your preferred pit bike brand? I’ve heard good things about Ssr but I just wanted the insight of a professional.
Ssr we don't get in the UK but same as stomp know as super stomp race . Dependent on budget. Bbr are top dogs I hear and bucci but way more expensive.
for a buget apollo if you got lots of money KTM or Kawasaki
Are the demon x worth it looking at the 140 or 125 wpb or 125 m2r what do you think the best one is?
125 m2r all the way
what shock did you use i have a apollo 18 with stock shock and its horrible. did you have to change the fork to get it to work? please get back with me thanks .
I used a dnm 295mm hornet. It completely changed the bike upgrading the shock. Will work better combined with front forks but massive difference just on its own.
Really interesting video 👌🏽
hi i have a 140cc welsh pit bike iv recently fitted a 1/4 nibbi throttle but now iv noticed if i blip the throttle from idle or go straight to wide open the bike goes to die.
iv tried to adjust the air/fuel screw and tried all possible needle positions with no joy
other than this the bike starts, idles and rides fine any ideas ?
iv looked at a nibbi 26mmPE but im not sure if this is this issue ?
Hi you've fitted a 1/4 throttle and now it doesn't run very well ? That's weird as shouldn't really make a difference.
Could you send me the link to the pro taper bars you got please good video
Great info!
If you don't mine sharing, what size tires are you using?
Only just seen 5his message that I've not replied. 90 100 14 rear and 70 100 17 front. Hope this helps and glad you enjoyed
Cheers
My xpro 125 rear suspension have bent so i have a iron bar insted hahahah and i have some brake problems
With iron bar must ride like a hardtail mtb lol sounds painful on the back. No brakes, that's crazy
Have u got a recommendation for tires make etc and where best to source sets, hard finding what’s right or a scam, new to the dirt biking, many thanks
Any of the main brands is good really and depends on terrain.
Michelin, dunlop, kenda, maxxis etc... I buy from ebay then I'm protected. Sometimes it takes me time to reply unless abuse.
Hope this helps
@@motomachinezuk8786 many thanks definitely helped, keep the good footage coming 👌
Hi,what's the verdict on these RXF 190s.....might look into buyin one.just for messing about with my little boy on his quad...any info appreciated
which pitbike is this ?
What rear shock is that please? looking to upgrade mine thanks
This is m-tech from cw racing. Dnm and fast ace was also an option, I picked cheapest only by about £20 though. Very pleased compared to standard rubbish
@@motomachinezuk8786 thank you very much
@@josh3570 you're welcome
Bike noob here, can you ride in the rain without problem on a put bike or is it best to get a airbox or something?
If the pit bike air filter gets too wet it will make the bike run rubbish. Depends how wet it gets. If consistently riding in the rain I would probably consider one of those options
What wheels u got on there they upgraded ones ?
From cw racing and yes upgraded quality 👌
Hi where can I get one of them large rental pads in the background for my garage
Hi I got it from ebay as advertising prop. Was another available at time but never seen since. Not a item they sell. I'm glad I got 1 they look good
Would you say this goes for wpb as there not all Chinese I don’t think.
Most things now are made in China then someone else sticks another name on it. Wpb is Chinese just s9ld from Wales. A cw or rfx is a better quality build
Alright what size is the rear shock can't seem to find one
I can't remember. Try looking up bike details is best bet so you get it right
Would a aftermarket pit bike fork fit on a sur ron ?
Someone put a yz 85 fork on his sur Ron but it added over 10lbs. And looks to big
Possibly but they wouldn't be as good as a Japanese bikes front end.
Kx65 I've seen people use the front end, brakes also but they've all got the upgraded controller and battery so weight not an issue so much I suppose ?
Good thinking tho
Where did u got the exhaust u have a video?
I got it from ebay just search pit bike end can mate it should come up
great video mate thanks
Where did u get the rear shock from
Ebay
I have mate the 190 is 325 but icarnt find the upgraded one that size anywhere
@@jasonlund1288 this is my 170 different size. Not sure where to get one that size for 190
Hey I just picked up a 125 stomp pit bike. What air filter do you recommend me getting?
Hey the uni air filters are good and the 1s ooracing co.uk do on line
They work for me off road better than stock ones.
If road riding then there are probably better options 🤷
Hope this helps
Can you post links please
360mm mtech shock?
295 dnm
What size wheels are them you have on yours as I’m on 12 on front and 10 on rear
17 front and 14 rear mate
@@motomachinezuk8786 thanks so much
Good video, Thanks👍
And part number of the Pro tapers I’m modding mine to your spec looks bang on
They are good especially if slightly taller you get more knee room and obviously more robust. I just searched on ebay for pro taper pit bike bars and these came up. So unsure of exact number
@@motomachinezuk8786 no worries mate thanks for all the replies 👌
@@motomachinezuk8786 you got any tips on improving the Detroit 170 on a cold start I’m looking at 30 kicks 😂 everything done correctly
@@stevenwhitworth3200 mine when cold may take 6 kicks max if not ridden for a while. If you got the technique right then it can only be timing, tappets might need adjusting. Failing that, I've never used it yet but I got easy start for emergencies. They are difficult to start. The new 1s have decompression valve to help
@@motomachinezuk8786 timing and tappets spot on can’t fathom it. Did the tappets at 0.10 and 0.15. Added a new spark plug. Think the carbs set there or there abouts. It’s not even run in this bike it’s probs had an hours running time. Think that’s the reason it was sold the girl couldn’t start it up.
How’d you make the back of your bikes plastics stick up
Looped it once
@@motomachinezuk8786 fair enough looks cool
@@mrsparksjnr8731 Wtf? you think that looks cool? that looks horrible
Where did you get those W racing levers from ?
From w racing on ebay mate 👍
Best bike to buy?? WPB OR M2R??
M2r
hey dude good video, you got any tips for tuning my new 140cc carb? its bogging in 3rd and 4th from new, its a mikuni carb that come with the bike i can imagine its not genuine, thanks dude
Hello mate weird usually set up out of the box, can try air mixture screw for starters as probably not much to do. You checked carb jets are clean because that needs to be checked before any changes. Thank you appreciate the support
@@motomachinezuk8786 Thanks dude ill have a look at that, the jets should be clean as it was brand new when i got it and it was bogging straight away, i will double check them though, keep up the good content man, especially liking the surron videos
Where did you get that tank sock from mate?
Tank sock was from my old crf450 just needed altering slightly but works a treat
What rear shock did you get?
M tech from ebay mate
Where did he get that shock cause will be 320mm probably n can’t find any
295mm it is. Got from ebay
@@motomachinezuk8786 try that one n drop the back end well to much but thanks tho
@@aidanmair234 295 mm is the stock size for 170 detroit
@@motomachinezuk8786 aw so be based on crf70 thought was the same as the m2r 160 because that’s based on a crf110
I wish I had kept mine to put one of them engines in it
What tires did you upgrade to ?
Maxxis
Great video do you prefer riding the pit bikes over the bigger motorcross bikes ??
I wouldn't say I prefer but very much enjoy the smaller displacement engines and suit the terrain and few areas I can ride local. Big bikes if I had the land and terrain plus people to ride with. Pit bikes feel safer on my own and they are cheap and cheerful aswell as they don't damage the riding areas in winter so I don't get moaned at lol. I enjoy all 2 wheeled machines even a 50cc scotter puts a smile on my face and thats why I ride. Love the motocross stuff but been difficult to ride this year and fill appetite
@@motomachinezuk8786 nothing better than getting out for a rip makes you feel alive I recently got back into bikes after about 18 years so glad I did feel like a notty teenager again gona stick with the pitbikes for now man they are so much fun throwing them around and them occasionally throwing you off 😂😂
@@johnspeirs525 wow a long rest from them 18yrs. Glad to hear back in the seat and loving it. Maybe I ride because of those reasons too, my get away.
They are more forgiving when they do go down, alot safer than being stuck under a full size dirt bike. I agree great fun getting on pit bike, I like the 4 stroke junior thumpers and really easy plus cheap to fix and maintain
@@motomachinezuk8786 I am tempted to buy a CRF150 RB to mess around on but feel as if when I’m leaving the pit bikes behind should make a proper jump into the 250 four strokes but kinda got the same problem with limited places to ride them without going to a track and I enjoy trail riding more than I do the tracks
@@johnspeirs525 no pit bike always needed as well as big bike lol then you got more options. The crf150r does look fun and as small will be agile. They do rip better than a Chinese pit bike just quite expensive and maintenance more expensive and regular. Hopefully I shall try 1 someday.
Arhh what about your rims dude they looked upgraded blue hubs???
Yes mate they are blue hubs. I got the set of wheels from cw racing. Black spokes so quite a nice set 👌
Can you do a video on how to adjust front suspension 💙
Mine isn't adjustable apart from thicker fork oil I can't really adjust. Need some better 1s eventually that I can adjust
@@motomachinezuk8786 eye balling M TECH 100£
what's the main difference between a pit bike and a dirt bike?
Small and cheap
Is it me or is the subframe bent?
Yeh its bent from looping a few times. Like a banana now lol
The intro sounded like bear grylls 😂
His names been mentioned a couple of times now
You could fix your rear mudguard atleast
0:22 sounded soo wrong sorry bro
Haha I just had to check what you meant. Could be interpreted wrong
Only person who's mentioned that
instead of the strap just lift it by the subframe
At what point should you have bought a better pit bike ?
Or just moved up to a used dirt bike ? You can get a decent dirt bike for 2000-2500
I’d be hesitant to spend over 13-1400 total on a Chinese bike .
That is a good question. I also ride a 250 4 stroke as main bike but pit bike works so well on the land I can ride, often in the woods it's quite small and tight so the pitty works perfect and I feel safer riding alone on smaller bike.
So for me I feel its the best and most fun choice for where I can ride on private land.
To be fair I know what you mean, I just find easy to just jump on whenever I want and go local without having to look after it like I do my 250.
Great fun also 👌
You don't get much for 2 to 2.5k now and if you get a problem or needs a rebuild that could be another 1000 easy. Especially when putting on lots of hours as they require more vigorous maintenance.
I would say get a twin pot front break and 220mm discs for safety sake and for weight saving I would say buy a set of Cw forks and a Cw billet swing arm with the wracing wheels for strength 👌
I've never seen uprated front brake calipers as standard are poor. Seen bigger disks. Got the wheels and they are decent. Front forks and swing arm I need to investigate. Cheers for input 👍
@@motomachinezuk8786 I almost have everything wracing just waiting on the lm exhaust and wracing billet swing arm to complete my wpb/wracing build
Same here if I replace things then I try to get cw stuff, I thinks its like the American bbr? Is that the expensive exhaust system they have ? Need to find these better brakes
@@motomachinezuk8786 have you got Instagram I can send you all the links there
@@motomachinezuk8786 I just messaged you on Instagram 👍
Trust me