Can Exercise Treat Depression?
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- There are lots of good reasons to exercise, but it can also make you feel happier.
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she speaks beautifully
Probably the best SciShow host honestly, even better than Ha....
That's blasphemy, I won't go there.
Phwoar, you almost did Sebastian.....
Hank is the only one for me.
As someone who uses exercise to treat their anxiety and depression instead of proper treatment, yes, it makes a big difference.
for some, it might, for others it might not.
My therapist always says I'm running from my problems. Does that count as exercise?
Master Therion unless you're literally run , no
Good old Master Therion at it again
I wouldn’t want to jump to a conclusion.
Unless your problems are running too. But different speed.
love that 😂😂
Yes exercise does help depression quite a lot, but it's very difficult to be motivated to exercise for people with depression.
That's the catch 22 isn't it? Another commenter said they used medication to just get over that initial 'wall' and then the positive effects of exercise have eventually helped them almost completely eliminate using medication. The brain is a complex thing, it really doesn't like to play ball does it!?
oh yeah I completely understand for me I drink a bit of coffee or have something sweet. in about half an hour I feel jittery and energized that I ACTUALLY WANT to exercise hehe. but that just seems to work well with me cause I can't really handle sugar that much😅
Aishath, haha! So is it the coffee or the sugar!?!?! You need to get sciencing on this! Set up a control, some coffee, some sugar, and some coffee with sugar and see which makes you MORE HYPPPPED for exercise!?!?
Ryan Dubois Antidepressants can give people the right push to do it. When I started the right medication, exercise made me feel a million times better. Exercise didn’t do anything when I was taking the wrong medication because I kept thinking to myself “what’s the point? Why should I exercise when I’m barely keeping myself alive today?”, which is a totally legit thing to think when you’re in that mindset.
Some weed can help.
Bro, do you even lift your mood?
Nice haha
Tardis!
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Bro that hit me right in the feels
Lol that made me smile ty
Excercise definitely helps manage it. I know a lot of people find getting started extremely difficult because of the lack of motivation to implement a new (healthier) lifestyle. Initially, I was put on 300 mg of wellbutrin which allowed me the motivation to 'get started' because I couldn't stand all this negative thinking. I went out for walks daily, which then graduated to running/jogging with the goal of running my first 5k. Eventually I stopped my medication altogether and stuck with my daily excercise routine. After reaching my goal, I moved on to heavy resistance training. And now I've become more self-conscious about what I put into my body and try to live an active and healthy life. This has overall improved my mood. One thing I learned is that when you begin to empower your body to feel stronger and healthier, you will begin to feel more empowered in all areas of your life. Well that's my story... and if you read this far, I hope you find the power within yourself to make a change in your life, even if its something small. 🙂
thank you🙂
How do I get my husband to exercise? He says will but never does for past 10 years or wait 15!
I used to be one of those people who didn’t care about my body type/thought it was too surface-level to worry about the gym, but honestly, the gym truly has boosted my well-being and self-image, and helped me get through some pretty serious spells of depression. Not only does it improve your body (I was always very skinny, and have gained about 35 pounds in muscle since I started working out routinely a couple years ago), but it’s also great for just releasing frustration and the stresses of the day. Pushing, pulling things... it truly does help. It’s also a release from being cooped up alone. If you’re nervous about beginning working out/don’t want to alone, really, try to go with a friend or just brave it yourself. It’ll be well worth the changes that come through your hard work.
Damn, you also look very handsome in your profile photo
35 pounds of muscle is np unless you're on gear man
@@theyeking7023 incorrect
It's true.
Since i started exercising every morning for 15 minutes every day i feel a LOT better
DO IT PEOPLE AND STICK TO IT.
NO PAIN NO GAIN.
It helps me so much I've become addicted to it. When I take a day off, I feel noticably worse.
I wish I'd started earlier, because my day becomes so much easier after a kickass workout.
Been trying to run away from depression for 4 years....started running under 3 miles in an hour and 6 miles a week to running 7 miles in an hour and 30+ miles a week. It helps decrease depression and has personally made letting go of my worst habits easier, but the runners high is overrated/stated..... if you suffer from depression, you just shift your perspective and stay depressed just in a physically healthier way.
It doesn’t matter how far I have come, or how hard I push myself; every achievement/personal record is a new reason to beat myself up... for only running 5 miles this day, or 25 miles that week.
Does exercise help people with depression? Certainly. Does someone suffering from depression stand any chance of treating/overcoming their depression solely/mainly through exercise therapy? Absolutely not.
Great point. Exercise is just one part of a good mental health regimen.
You sir just gave me depression 💔
I hope you are doing better now 🙏
Going to the gym is wonderful for my mood, but my antidepressants help to get me there in the first place.
Hi. If I may ask? Does working out and also taking antidepressants help alot with mental health tho?
@@Luke-vf6qc I was prescribed antidepressants (lexapro) threw them away and started microdosing mushrooms twice a week. A recent study even showed that mushrooms is more effective at curing depression than lexapro, the stuff I was prescribed. Natural is better, psychedelics has no side effects or withdrawals, like antidepressants.
@@JESUSISKING77742 hi thanks for letting me know🔥
Exercise treats everything
No.
This is the one and only time I will agree with Muscle Hank. Feelin shitty? Go run until you cant run anymore. You'll feel great and sleep like a log.
Does running treat death?
Flippy Sidee If you can run, then you can't be dead. So if you never stop running, you can't die.
+Flippy Sidee
yes because if you're running; you're not dead
How are we supposed to exercise when we're so depressed we can't get out of bed?
You make a good point.
obvious_humor get chased by a predator? :)
obvious_humor force yourself
Or when you use it as a form of self harm 🤷♀️ there really are no cure alls to life
Get an active friend
weightlifting + SSRI is the perfect combination for me. it's been working wonders for a few months now. neither of those could substitute the other, but they are a great team! :)
In all my life, I've NEVER experienced a runner's high. Not even a little. With every step I want to stop more than the last one. I've run for over an hour and never felt anything but the desire to stop as soon as possible from start to finish.
David Buschhorn Maybe running isn't the exercise for you then. There are a lot of other exercises that could give you a "runners" high.
Same, but what I did experience is when I actually enjoyed the exercise, like playing games or running with my dog I do feel it, or at least, something like it, but normal exercise only hurts for me.
I've been running for a couple years, and I've experienced it exactly once.
In my opinion, running is masochistic in a sense. It feels terrible every time, and if you run with weights on like I did for a bit, it's actual hell running frequently.
That being said, watching yourself grow and develop a gap in power almost equivalent to superpowers is a great feeling, mostly offsetting the intimidating nature of running.
If you ever get a runner's high, it just makes you feel lightweight, pain-free, and better breathing for a couple hours. Interesting, but not the end goal IMO.
David Buschhorn, you probably haven’t pushed yourself hard enough, Runner’s high is only activated RIGHT BEFORE you’re about to pass out. To get to that point you need to push yourself and have an extremely strong will. When you’re heavily breathing, you’re soles are screaming, and your ribs are hurting, and you’re still pushing yourself then and only then will you feel that euphoric high.
I totally agree! I have been running (off and on) for 40 years and still hate it. Every. Step. Never experienced a runner's high.
The endocannibinoid explanation makes so much sense. I usually take a couple hits off a joint before I run and I feel beyond amazing. Like I’m flying
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What I like about this channel is the fact that on one hand the videos are always entertaining and interesting to watch, but on the other they try to remain as objective as possible, by signalling possible errors in the papers they take into account and, of course, by citing the papers themselves.
Excellent video. I am making exercise a huge priority for my lifestyle now
keyword here is "can". months of training did zero with feeling suicidal. got stronger. not thinner.
so... yay?
StickyTank training is only half of it. Nutrition goes hand in hand with training
did the whole thing. last resort was meds and finding something that works. just saying, it doesnt always work.
I know that feel stickytank. People really just don't get how much we go through to try to feel normal.
in my case, i have several issues that compound each other. from depression to inherited bad knees.
Did you do high intensity cardio?
I have a suggestion for the show: An episode on the psychology of tattoos. I imagine there are a decent amount of studies on them, and I would be most interested in the reasons why people get them (beyond drunk mistakes, although even that could be explored). I also think I heard something about abuse survivors getting more tattoos and piercings, but I'd like to know if that is really true. I think there's a lot of potential material to discuss here (anti-authority signalling, how people react to others with tattoos, cultural differences, etc.).
I walk to the drug store to get my anti-depressants.. so...
is it a long walk and do you smoke a biffy on the way ?
Go in the gym
New Message
What sport do you like? You could walk to the next gym instead.
New Message I order weed onl8ne to treat mine
Really? She comes to pick me up! But the pushups begin once we get to her place.
I did start exercising lately because I was going through a bad place with my depression and the medicine didn't seem to be helping anything... It did help me some days -I felt productive and like my day wasn't a waste, or it helped me work out my irritability - but others it was a chore I felt like I had to get through (which was also a good thing I guess, it moved me !) My depression makes me feel empty and lethargic but I am lucky in some ways to be able to at least do this thing without negative feedback from my brain!
So I know anyone with a mental illness is probably sick of hearing it but if you can, maybe do a dance or something off TH-cam! It helped me and it hopefully will help others!!
Exercise=happy brain
Depression= sad brain
Exercise + depression= halfway happy or better brain
But then there's MATH :o
😅😅😅😅 Cause math is never wrong!! 😄😁
that's not how it works, you can't just zero sum happy and sad things.
I mean, heck even mildly less depressed means it's worth it tbh
Better brain seems better😼😸😸
Funny how “Today I Found Out” an Hour ago literally had a video on being allergic to Exercise
Yes, exercise is good for mental health. But when I'm so depressed that I physically can't get out of bed, or so anxious that I can't leave the house without a panic attack, don't TELL ME EXERCISE WILL CURE ME I WILL PROBABLY SPIT ON YOU.
But for ongoing treatment, relapse prevention and mild depression/anxiety, exercise is great!
It's actually what you need to do despite not feeling that you can. I've had most severe gad depression insomnia. Took me 3 months of pushing running hard to come well. Unfortunately I have relapsed but you gotta make yourself x
Running marathon and working out in the gym was my routine to fight my depression.
I used to be told to go exercise when I was super depressed. I couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't eat. I couldn't go to class. I felt like I was drowning in nothingness and emptiness. I ended up at the gym on campus twice a week for two months at an hour each time. Did it make me feel better? No. I have friends that exercise because it helps their anxiety, but exercise isn't going to make the psychomotor retardation or emptiness that you feel that comes with depression better. I'd like to argue: why would exercise help if I can't even get out of my own bed everyday?
And then they say something like "just give it a try!" even if you're like I was biking 8+ miles a day, walking 1+ miles a day, walking up to the 5th floor for college class, doing circuit training at the college gym.
exercise n medicene
I can see where you're coming from. Forcing myself out of bed is the hardest thing I have to do each day.
Don't give up on yourself.
This was a couple of years ago. I'm better for the most part now and not because of exercise. Thanks for the encouragement!
I've been there, and it is totally unfair to tell someone that I'll to go fix their own problem by running. For me, it took therapy and medication to get over the worst of it. Now I am on more of a maintainance program and exercise is an important part of that. When I exercise I feel like I am on an upward spiral, but I still need my meds for when those bad days come. I hope no one sees this and thinks that it is a replacement for professional help.
Honestly, exercise makes me feel worse. As a chronic depressive, I really wanted exercise to help, but not only did it not help, it made it worse. Though this video helps me understand - apparently my body's stress triggers don't work, so my body always lives in stress. Maybe since the exercise helps by triggering stress receptors, and my receptors don't work, exercise doesn't work for me.
Even when I had a regular exercising pattern, I didn't see any difference in my mental health state which sucks because I wish it was that easy. I feel like it can help with anger issues but it actually raises my anxiety levels and doesn't really affect depression as far as I can tell. But I see a very mixed opinions online, in medical research and even in the comments so maybe it's a very personal thing like medications. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it will for everyone.
Why doesn't it make me feel better. It makes me feel better for a while, then it doesn't do anything
Hmmm have you tried listening to music or having cold showers? They're great mood lifters
Thanks. Luv
I was prescribed antidepressants (lexapro) threw them away and started microdosing mushrooms twice a week. A recent study even showed that mushrooms is more effective at curing depression than lexapro, the stuff I was prescribed. Natural is better, psychedelics has no side effects or withdrawals, like antidepressants. In the end the choice is yours, just sharing my experience.
Lexapro wont even cure your depression. Meds like it just mask the symptoms.
This makes me feel so hopeful❤❤❤
OMG, I've heard it so often it causes nausea in me, I still cannot believe it. Exercise makes me angry, besides the exhaustion. After exercising, be it at a fitness club or just walking, I am furious. I have asked professionals, trainers and psychologists. Their response: big disbelieve, surprised stare. Like they never heard of it. I'd love to feel better after exercise. This is so de-motivating. BTW, I almost caused a car accident once after exercise, I have screamed at people that addressed me after exercise (a lot of times). It is like a bag of something scorching hot inside me that wants to pop. And it takes some time to cool down. No, I am definitely not the right person for your sports team.
try walking or pure cardio
@@cornloin9732 you'd like to see someone go off like a bomb. No matter what I tried, walking, cardio, whatever you call it, I am furious after the exercise. I'm not joking. It is serious.
@@isabellabihy8631 oh
@@isabellabihy8631 didnt know
Good medication and exercise combine to improve your mental health. There’s no way I could exercise if I didn’t take my antidepressants. Exercise on its own didn’t help my mental health, but when I started the right medication, exercise helped me feel a million times better.
The problem is when you're depressed it's often hard to force yourself to eat, even things you love eating. I can't even imagine doing exercise when I'm on a low.
You gotta find ways to fool the system. I started working out to feel better, as I was a skinny, insecure, shy guy who did terribly with girls and had no confidence. When I started working out, I saw results pretty quickly and it made me realize that I can actually change my body and therefore, my life.
After many years, I not only attained a very impressive physique with cut biceps, 6 pack abs and a v-taper like a Dorito, but I'd also gained a ton of confidence, energy and went from an introvert to a massive extrovert.
But...despite all that, I still did terribly with girls. Sure, I could approach them, easily talk with them, get them smiling and laughing, but they were never actually interested in me. Whenever I went out, people would look at me, do double takes or even stare at me, including many girls. I got told that I looked like an actor many times, and many of my guy friends asked me for girl advice. Yet I still got nothing but disinterest and rejection from girls.
Eventually, it became hilarious to me. The fact that I could make the incredible transformation that I made and yet somehow STILL fail, it made me want to keep going. Going to the gym became a source of depression for me. I'd go and see all the girls ignoring me and moving to other areas anytime I went near them, and the dark humor kept me going.
My mind had switched, and now, it WANTED to be depressed, because I'd done everything I could and still failed. Reinforcing the depression actually felt GOOD and every time I saw a girl pick up and move when I hopped on the machine next to her, every girl who walked in, saw me, then turned around and left, every girl who avoided me yet talked to other guys fueled that depression.
Basically, depression has become my fuel, and for some ****ed up reason, my mind craves it. Now, I don't recommend getting to this point, as I've since developed a worrying substance abuse problem that no one knows I have because I'm in such good shape, but you said you didn't know how anyone could be extremely depressed and work out, so figured I'd tell ya how I did it.
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Anyway, thanks for making these awesome videos! I'm pretty sure you're part of the reason I'm studying psychobiology right now :)
The problem with exercising for depression and anxiety is that... I'm literally too depressed and anxious to exercise; depression destroys my executive functioning to get out of bed or out of a chair, and anxiety prevents me from leaving the house alone, and I'm usually just too sad to do anything and the initial struggle of exercise crushes my willingness to actually do it, so I end up paralyzed and unable to exercise.
Yes.
Well ima try exercising and see if it works for me. I've been depressed for 6 years straight so ima try this
I’ve been going to the gym and dieting for the past two months. I feel even more depressed 🤔
Another way exercise can help your general mood is literally the knowledge that you've done some exercise. Sounds obvious, but the benefit of knowing, even subconsciously, that you're ACTIVELY impacting your health in a positive way is massive!
Well, it just made it worse.
Probably because I was forced to exercise all the time as a child and and had no time to do what I love.
And I also got scolded when I didn’t want to.
In my experience starting to work out again was the serious turning point for me out of 8 years of severe depression. There's no reason not to do it. I recommend it to anyone who is having self esteem issues especially. If you're anxious about it, just getting to the gym or outside will be a good level challenge to begin with and slowly expose yourself gradually with better workouts. Especially young men, getting that testosterone flowing can work wonders on your motivation and mood.
I had heart surgery, by the time I decided I was healthy enough to exercise, I end up having surgery. I get my spleen removed, go to exercise, then I get sick. Or I end up in the hospital for somethings keeping internal bleed or flu. Then I start to feel better, then end up sick. So I gave up trying to exercise. So I just sit watch tv. I do t do any of my hobbies anymore. No motivation anymore. I’ve given up trying. Plus, I live with chronic pain on a daily basis, that’s why I can exercise.
First you need to have the correct understanding on one thing: Your body affects your mind.
So, if you're depressed, exercise might seem like a very difficult task. But that's not the only thing you can do. The idea is to make your body feel good. Start finding ways of doing things that make your body feel relaxed and build up from there. And you need a little bit of pain too--without pain there is nothing to pursue. It's a mistake to make complete happiness your goal. True happiness is accompanied by a little bit of pain, but not overwhelmed by it. This has to do with how your neurotransmitters work.. The more indulgent you are, the less likely you'll feel satisfied by anything. But too many stress hinders motivation to do anything at all. What you can do when there is too much stress is context switching. Don't do or focus on things you know for sure you're doomed to fail on. Don't try to stop doing it, but switch to another task. So what's needed is balance between pain and pleasure, with a little tip on the side of pleasure. Not complete removal of pain or pleasure. Don't overcomplicate your feeling, make it a little bit more practical.
So, as someone who has exercised regularly for the last 12 years and still get deep depression periods, I guess I am especially f*cked.
Things I do for my anxiety/depression/PTSD so far that works somewhat:
Eat/Drink My Favourite Foods And Drinks/Try Different Foods And Drinks
Try To Wear Stuff That Does Not Make Me Uncomfortable Or Depressed And Instead Makes Me Confident And Determined
Perform Anal/Scrotal Masturbation
Look At Furry/Kemono/Yaoi/Anal Sex Porn
Use Anal Sex Toys For Personal Pleasure
Draw Furry/Kemono/Anime Art
Draw Realistic Art
Go Outside When It Is Warm And Very Windy
Run/Walk Outside When The Weather Is Favourable
Perform/Train In South American/Japanese Weapon-Based Martial Arts
Perform In Marksmanship
Listen To Traditional Japanese Music/Traditional South American Music
Listen To Tearjerker Piano Music
Listen To Classical Music/Ragtime Music
Listen To Motivational Post-Hardcore Music/Numetal Music
Listen To Motivational Japanese Rock Music/Korean Rock Music/South American Rock Music
Watch Kawaii/Moe/Mecha/Martial Arts/Fantasy/Sci-fi/Adventure/Action/Drama/Comedy/Post-Apocalyptic Anime Shows
Watch Kamen Rider Series And Other Japanese Tokusatsu Superhero Shows
Hey, it works for me personally :-)
@@koryuudayamadori4610 So, in short, do things that you love.
@@z0uLess Pretty much so...
When I am depressed, I take a trip to Paris 🇫🇷 it really works !
NO FRENCH PEOPLE IN PARIS. FULL OF MUSLIMS AND BLACKS. HOW DEPRESSING
My brain must *really* be broken; exercise always makes me feel worse.
No.
I get depressed when I can't fit in a workout at least once a day
same
Omg I used to have that exact some dress!!
Cool...cool...cool. Now do a video on how to mitigate all the effects of depression long enough to be able to actually exercise just once, let alone for months on end...
What about effect of over exercise on mental health? For example runner blues after Marathon?
Helps with depression?
I am still depresed after workout but working out gives mě depression but ať the same time gives Away like smookers with stress
For about 4 years I had pretty bad depression (actually diagnosed, not the "tumblr kind") and exercise did nothing for me. A major environmental change and professional help at a mental institute did the thing.
I think it's a better advice to first of all consult with a psychiatrist if you feel like you need help, because exercise doesn't work for everyone and it can be valuable time wasted.
I believe she is talking about situational depression (Minor Depression) instead of ( clinical depression / Major Depression) , for the latter you must take medicine
How long does it take cortisol to shut down the HPA axis? If it's less than ~8 hours, then how is it that people with anxiety disorders can feel stressed all day? Is it a different chemical/neutransmitter?
I mean, exercise is great if it's a viable option, but some of us have chronic pain conditions that make any strenuous exercise extremely painful. Stretching and walking are like the only forms of exercise I can do on land (pool exercises are best)
Oh how much exercise would I need -- PTSD, major depression, general anxiety, social anxiety, others, which sums up to serious borderline. 5 daily medications for that alone. Plus moderate to severe asthma.
I'd probably die from exhaustion on day 1 XD
You don't need to sign up for a gym membership and break yourself under the barbell or on the cycle. Daily walks outside does wonders and is a great starting point for more strenuous exercise. Try to find places with some greenery, like a forest or park. Grass, dirt or gravel is easier on the legs and feels good to walk on. Soak up some sun; it makes you more alert and helps with your sleep cycle. Get those lungs breathing some fresh air! Daily walks work your legs, butt and back among others. Make a conscious effort to walk with a proud, straight back and you're building up body and confidence both in no time!
Not saying that you do, but if you stay indoors, stay still and feel sorry for yourself, you're not going to feel any better anytime soon. Get out there and get after it!
Real exercise is better than pretend exercise.
Excuses excuses go get swole and feel good
I feel you on a spiritual level man...
While it's still a great idea to get up and out, therapy is the key for that one, ideally not CBT and rather something more psychoanalytic. BPD is one of a few conditions where CBT isn't all that effective, and it's important to understand it's gonna take its time.
exercise depresses me even more
There are many who take medications feel so sedated that they cannot even be physically active. I’d rather do it the natural way but I understand that there are many people who can’t
I am too sad to exercise I met a person who always sets me up to fail I'm a very frail lady and the lady kept wasting my time. She worked with the health service but no matter how many explanations I gave to her that I needed to meet her at the time because of difficulties walking and dressing dues to my osteopenia. I was so upset I felt sick I cant being myself to run it's not my fault I cant do things because of my bones. It's a crushing sadness but it goes away when I spend no time with these people
Brit Garner is a dime 👌
For minutes and 37 seconds there is no place to hide or run because it's old man Logan! out for a fast jog!
I struggle with Depression myself, took up Crossfit recently and helped a ton, working out hard and being part of a small community of people with like-minded goals is a really good boost to confidence. May not be for everyone, but I can definitely tell the difference at work when I've been to Xfit the night before, there's a vast jump in overall mood and well being.
SCIENCE AND PSYCHOLOGY CAN'T BE TRUSTED BUT I DO FEEL MUCH BETTER (SOCIAL ANXIETY,BIPOLAR) SINCE I STARTED EXERCISE REGULARLY..
Well... not in my case. Got worse episodes ever that landed me in hospital twice when I was at top physical form, I was doing martial arts for years and the more I practiced and the better I was getting physically, the worse I got mentally. It created a disaster for me.
I’m getting depression and anxiety because of corona and quarantine. I can’t go to the gym
Aw.
I have been feeling it for 8 years 💀. It think I should die
I get it. But when I’m in the thrawls of depression, and literally laying on the floor incapacitated with sadness, and logic won’t touch my mood, exercise is so hard.... but NASA said 15 minutes on a little trampoline is better than 45 min running
Don't forget that some people actually don't have the genes that allow them to enjoy exercise.
Also depressed people might not be able to exercise so as you said... it's not as easy a treatment as something you can swallow
Prove it
I exercise 3 times a week and it has NOT helped my depression AT ALL. Not in the slightest. I've been working out for 3 years.
Bálint Juhász That might be true. However, it seems possible that you've improved marginally without noticing it, and you'd be even worse off without the exercise. I say that because the evidence for the benefits of exercise seem pretty compelling, and I hope you keep on exercising.
SepehrMirzaei just because there are benefits to exercise, doesn't mean it'll make depression better. It doesn't rectify the fact that you feel empty, lethargic, and mentally slow at all times.
aquamelody8 Hi, I'm not saying it is a cure for mental illness. Much of the time it's not enough. However, I believe that the evidence that exercise does have some mood boosting effects is pretty strong, even if those aforementioned effects won't make everything okay.
It probably does help you, AT LEAST in a negligible way, it's just that you're not noticing it, also, you know how anti-depressants boost brain functioning and happy hormones inmediatly but it actually takes some time for you to feel it? (Most of the time it takes MONTHS for you to feel it) it may be something like that, but exercise DOES help.
Also, you can't expect it to cure you, depression is an illness, it just isn't enough unless the depression's very mild or maybe moderate, what you need is therapy and/or medication, AND also healthy lifestyle changes, exercising is just one of those necessary lifestyle changes, which are only one factor that works towards curing you. But alone, it just won't cut it
Internet Stranger can I ever be normal?
but i have chronic disliking exercise syndrome
So do I. I joined an exercise class so that the social interaction would motivate me.
Did it work...?
So far, yes. I still hate exercise with a passion, but at least I’m doing it.
...Unfortunately exercise is one the easiest ways to trigger my anxiety. There's a very fine line between ending an exercise session feeling good and ending an exercise session having a panic attack.
Knowing through anecdotal evidence, not necessarily cure, but their is a relief of symptoms associated with Depression.
You can do this. Yes, yoU cAN!
I know it does! :)
sure helps for mild to moderate depression. Unluckily, depression doesn't turn away when it sees beauty... I wish you well.
ozdergecko True, it helps, doesn't cure the worste depression.. I had moderate depression, now it's mild.. When I (finally) got a boost from the meds, to have (a little ) motivation to work out, then the exercise helped me sleep better, and sleep and exercise together helped me a lot.. I'm almost off the meds, but will take them back if I have to.. life has some colour and direction again :) I hope You the best!
ozdergecko, that was a really wise thing you said right there. And EinieN J thanks for sharing your experience, we're sure a lot of people will find something helpful from what you said!
Aspect Science :)
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Exercise heal depression but at first time i afraid from people i cant walk i was in anxietyand depression and antidepresant take all my energy
They were Norwegians, they are generally more depressive, than other countrys.
the "+44% Depression" may go down for any other country that is somewhat south of norway.
And you should not be depressed as a normal state not after doing something.
If you have to exercise to handle your depression, than this seems like treating the symptoms and not the cause.
For example if you have a burning building (depression) and you have a water hose (exercise), than you are constantly butting water on the flames to extinguish them, that is ok, but as soon as you stop, the flames come back.
The cause should be found out, so that it does not start to ignite over and over again.
TheNefari it's deeper than that
aye relax mate, depression is a neurological/psychological disorder that isn't easily cured. Exercising can be a good method of reducing symptoms and thus allowing victims to lead a more productive life, which tends to help as well. Also, the better a person is, the easier depression becomes to treat. You're acting as though anyone here said that "exercise can cure depression", when no one has said anything of the sort. It was a common claim that exercise could improve symptoms of depression, and the point of this video was to explain the science of the claims and look at them from a purely scientific and logical perspective. Its not about exercise being the ultimate solution.
Benjamin Vroman you said it better than I could :-)
I wish there was a version of this where the speaker was not in a race to speak as fast as possible.
I used to do exercise, resistance, weight training and what not. I always felt awful for days after and it effected my life as I felt too ill and fatigued to do anything, missing work etc.. It made me feel depressed also.
Turned out later I found out I had some form of CFS and now exercise is a no no. I feel not the best but much better than when I was physically active and a lot more mentally sharp and happy.
That sounds interesting. What is CFS?
chronic fatigue syndrome
Yeah I looked it up and it seems like a really terrible thing to have. I mean, not being able to exercise. I can't even imagine it.
I can't imagine being able to exercise, well being able to do it normally and not die anyway.
I only used to do it to be stronger/fitter and keep some weight on, not because I enjoyed it or felt good from it.
You know what they say, its all pain and no gain.
That really sucks, mate. But you gotta stay positive :/
I work out full body 3 times a week(max), and I'm still depressed and stressed
smoke weed.
Will I ever be the same
I hate the phrase “just exercise”. I’m not going to deny that it CAN give positive results, but that doesn’t mean it WILL. And it’s the same thing with a depressed person exercising; just because they can exercise (and possibly have great results), that doesn’t mean they will. Depression has certain symptoms in certain people, so some people can’t even get out of bed. Plus, many athletes have spoken out about having depression or other mental health problems. Again, I won’t deny that it can help; for me personally, if I’m not feeling too down, exercise has given temporary help. But it depends on the person and their depression (or other mental illness)!
And now there will be a whole new wave of people telling me to just exercise and I will feel better, ugh.
Where is the research about how in many cases depression wont let a person do that?
I know I'm certainly not the only one who when their brain isn't letting them get out of bed for most the day, That certainly wouldn't change when exercise is supposed to be the motivating task.
I get where this is coming from and the information is good, but its certainly not the whole picture, it basically ignores one of the big symptoms of depression.
The message is not that "exercise is the only solution" it's that "exercise can be a solution". The purpose of this video wasn't to go out and tell people to get out of bed and walk. It's just clinically backed, peer-reviewed research supporting the popular claim that exercise can elevate mood. Anyway, depression can effect dopamine levels too, which has been researched in plenty of studies. So, yeah, don't worry. You're not the only one with that problem. A lot of people struggle with motivation. I also decided not to identify with anything I said in this comment because it doesn't matter what I've experienced, the facts matter. Just trying to help.
FAX!!!!!!!!!!
Exercising got health washed into something you do to "burn fat" but if you want to lose weight you have to eat less. it's not even half the battle it's more like 1/3
Also, everyone's severity of depression is different. Just because you're able to get out of bed and do it, doesn't mean someone else can.
Now I know what to do... gotta get those legs moving!
When I exercise and my heart rate increases I feel like I'm having an anxiety attack. Its very difficult to overcome.
Doesn't fix mine.
Helps me sleep better though.
Exercise makes me feel worse afterwards.....
do people really feel positive?
Maybe it’s people who are not depressed exercise. That is mistaking cause for effect.
Fertilizers for the brain? Actually my brain is fertilizer, if you catch my meaning.
But to condense this with contemporary understanding, we need to be a bit pedantic. It's not a treatment for depression, anxiety, etc. in the vain of mood disorders. However, it can *help* treat depression, anxiety, etc. People need to stop claiming it's a replacement for therapy and medication. To put it simply and just as with cannabis, they aren't treatments in and of themselves but are great adjunct options to help speed and maintain recovery. So pop an edible and go for a jog. About the only way to make cardio fun anyway.
Why you dont exercise?
Hi! I have severe anxiety and depression and have had it since I was in high school. I have been told many times to go outside more (Texas plus wasps equals no), to eat healthier (can only do so much with a budget and one town grocer), and, of course, exercise.
None of these treated my mental disorders more than a small uptick from "miserable" to "somewhat functional", which meant bad days would often cut off any progress towards healthier habits for at least a month and set be back to square one.
I am only making progress now because I am on a medication that makes up for what my brain couldn't do no matter what natural treatment I used.
This video glosses over this fact with a mention that these results were mostly for people with mild to moderate depression and comes off as misleading and leaning towards ableist.
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As someone who has suffered with depression for years and only got on antidepressants recently... exercise doesnt work on the severely depressed brain. Part of depression is that your brain stops being able to produce the chemicals related to reward and happiness properly. I have a friend who goes to the gym everyday and he introduced me to it. I continued and continued and not only did my mood not improve much at all, the gains I should have been making with the relative effort I put in did not show results.
I am now on anti-depressants and feel great, I am able to exercise with actual motivation but even more than that gains are incredibly rapid. I think the biases you pointed out are likely to be the case, they may be pro-exercise or just have mild to moderate depression, it does not work with severe forms, and even if the depressed individual can motivate themselves to the gym, the brain doesnt seem to regulate the repairs properly either, let alone produce the happy chemicals from working out. My gym friend was really shocked that I could fall asleep during workouts between sets, because I felt the tiredness but not the adrenaline.