I’ve been fighting with toxic bunnies here in TH-cam & X for the exact same reason you just laid out. Unfortunately, I think NJ & bunnies are beyond saving at this point. They will not see to reason & will fight tooth & nail for MHJ. It’s so stupid they continue to support someone who has used them both as pawns to her agenda.
Its being a stan and never thinking your fave would ever do anything wrong. Its a parasocial relationship and they must defend them no matter what. Any other opinions or questions are labeled as hate or "you're a Hybe stan," lol. Even if the courts rule in Ador's favor, those fans will claim Hybe paid off the courts or something. Its blind loyalty or that "its fine-everything is fine" meme basically no matter how many holes in the narrative gets called out
@@janayroyster9968 that is true. They are delusional to thinking NJ is innocent & the victim in all this. At the beginning, they may have been. But ever since their live broadcast, they are now MHJ accomplice. I’m a multi HYBE artist fan so I would be under the HYBE Stan label too 🤣. But that doesn’t mean I don’t recognise when the company or the artist is wrong. It’s just common sense but seams like many toxic Tokkies don’t have that.
I agree with every point you’ve made. The fact that MHJ didn’t deny the article, which speaks volumes about MHJ and her character. I feel so bad for Illit and not once has NWJS asked their fandom (it’s mostly the toxic bunnies) to stop hating Illit. While NWJS can counter sue Ador to terminate their contracts but those kind of lawsuits can go on for years and cost tons of money unless they settle in court or do negotiations.
Imo, she never does. Its always a reflection defense, it's never her fault or something was taken out of context-its just this person was wrong for exposing her "alleged" words and a hey look over there distraction. Thats her version of "mediaplay"-but most don't see it because they are too focused on we hate Hybe train
@@NeerajKumar-ju2vg they would get in trouble for telling their fans for not hate illit, but its only some bunnies, and being basically ignored and mistreated is more important.
@janayroyster9968 ik but she didn't even said anything at that timee see the audit again and it's the reflection of when u are lying and trying prove that lie a truth then you get defensive
@uraveragekpopfan then why aren't the bunnies telling other bunnies who are hating on them to stop being fr dude bunnies hated on illit Every bunny now there are some
The contrived motto, NewJeansNeverDie is completely absurd to hear while watching these young women literally torch their own careers, lol. Such vain, foolish, greedy people unable to recognize the hole they are digging for themselves. It's really like not being to take your eyes off of a train wreck.
i also think that new jeans were never mistreated i mean that ignoring thing isn't that deep tho😅 they are getting everything from their debut days like rich kids
I didn't even know they had their own hair salon that was exclusive to them , yet she went out her way to harass other groups so now I understand if the manager did say to ignore her it was cuz of her actions
they were ignored by bang pd multiple times and never the priority, bang pd never took photos with them and jealous of their sucess since they overshadowed their fav group lsf, hybe staff also made a big issue out of that minji drama
9:28 Honestly, this part made me question and wonder wtf is she saying? Bunnies keep arguing theyll bring more evidence and we went from yt live to national assembly to presscon, everyone knows the "mistreatment" she mentioned now coz shes said it so many times in a row. Why couldn't they just do it the legal way like everybody else and get it over with?...but no they gotta act like theyre fighting for something and onky then it can make them look like the victim they believe. Otherwise it wouldve been as smooth of a process to file a lawsuit with evidence so why is it taking so long while skipping every opportunity to bring it to the table....much less file a lawsuit coz filing it means bringing evidence and thats why no one believes they have any.
Vogue Korea created evidence that Min Hee-jin and New Jeans are together. It was confirmed that Min Hee-jin's tampering was true, and that New Jeans continued to use her raw information. As a result, Hive will be able to receive huge damages. And I hope that Min Hee-jin and New Jeans receive clear punishment for their betrayal.
I'm utterly disappointed w/ Pham hanni. She was the one i sincerely supported among njs members. Tbh, not to hate, but during nwjs debut, i've already felt something was off among the grp. Even w/out knowing the negative background of their head creative producer, mhj, i've already sensed that most of the girls seemed over confident that sometimes border arrogance...maybe becoz they're young & a liberated generation. However i still chose to support them coz i genuinely like their music, not the grp. But hanni really showed a part of her real self. I originally applauded their bravery to stand yg against ador, hybe, etc. But the more the drama went on, the more their ploy is geting exposed. The girls, though mostly minor, aren't clueless at all. They know what they're gett8ng into. They are single handedly driven their career in support of mhj, a questionable personality, believing that only she can make them rise to the top. So creepy. And hanni, being one of the eldest members, a western, young, headstrong, smart girl is actively participating & leading the grp into this mess.
National Assembly really confused me.. I also went into it thinking it was time for the hammer to fall on evil HYBE. Then she just said the same things.. But she also said 'there were many other instances' and i'm like.. YOU'RE AT A HEARING. PLEASE EXTRAPOLATE HANNI PLEEEEAAAASE 😭 The fact that this guy who brought her has all these Bunnies fanboy stickers on his computer, these old guys are taking selfies with her, and the hearing is primarily for a company that caused the deaths of its employees.. It just felt so gross in the end.
Nj fans think now big 3 companies want nj and hybe lost his money makers and best gg I agree nj hybe best gg but not a money maker and also no company’s want them
HYBE now has GFriends, they only a short time in with HYBE (I forget which HYBE company), and they have sold out two tours. Now - KMCA is stating the NJ should not be allowed on any shows. Phase-2 is just beginning.
@@mahammalik1581which they are digging their self deeper with by doing that. Court will be very interesting with all the evidence that the girls are doing to theirselves.
the fa i think hanni is selfish i sthat the ador new ceo has been just become ceo for one day and she has to go to court and hanni saying that she misteated didn't listen us is soo much she was disrespecting the ceo but can't she take her as elder atleast
First point that I don't agree with is that "Dispatch gives information that is always true". Everything else you covered I agree with. I beleive MHJ has her hands in everything NJ is doing. I think the girls are ruining their careers.
I hope and pray that the NewJeans members either have a 4d chess level plan that will unfold before our eyes, or they all experience a Group Keena Event and just go back to Ador. "Bunnies" are right about one thing. Companies want to make money. They have to, and jfc, Ador is trying. They don't exist without NewJeans and all signs point to a red carpet if they just stop the circus act. But I don't think that will happen. The picture of Hanni hugging MHJ with a file in her hand next to a lawyer before going to the press conference.. It breaks my heart. I think they feel entirely dependent and beholden to her as if she was truly their mother.
Some will think i shouldn't be saying this but it weird to call out New jeans for not telling their fans to stop harassing and hating on other artists, while bts is doing the exact same thing..... saying nothing.... That's one of the reasons why my army life ended years ago it's feels like they are somehow fake .
@@Sunnone true it is kind of weird for me to say that newjeans should do that😅 however I think if they plan on protecting other groups such as zerobaseone shouldn't this go for ALL groups if possible? I mean they practically only had this connection to ZB1 so would it hurt to protect another group with SO MANY sorts of connections? just my opinion tho😅
BTS have always shown the utmost deference and respect towards other groups in public, they are absolutely sociable and often feat idols from other groups, even non-Hybe. NJ have never missed an opportunity to be arrogant and disrespectful towards Illit and LSF, and have complained in public about Seventeen and Illit (it was clear that Hanni's complaint was about Illit). I agree that idols shouldn't intervene in these pitiful wars of 12-year-old girls, but fans watch how idols behave.
Yes, BTS has never openly tell Army to stop attacking other idols bcz majority of our fanbase didn't attack others unprovoked. & those Army that looks like always in other people business is actually a very small part of our fandom, so if BTS call out them wouldn't that means BTS generalize every single one of us when majority of us didn't do it? It's just bcz we are a huge fandom so even if it's just a small portion of our fandom, for others it's massive. But did you know what BTS did instead when they want Army to not sending hate train to other artist? By working with those people, or showing support to those artist by singing their songs etc, or posting their "friendship" pic, by attending their concert, by being a guest in their show, etc. It comes to the point that we inside the fandom has an inside joke like "let's hate ............ so BTS collab with them". Y'all outside the fandom might not know & realized this bcz it's subtle & BTS didn't out loud scream at those "toxic Army" to stop spreading hate but we inside the fandom definitely aware when they "tell us" that they're aware & they want us to know that they have good relationship with those people so we need to be mindful. We, Army, knows when they "scolded" us bcz of those "toxic Army". It might not satisfy people outside the fandom bcz most of y'all wish they bluntly, in our face and in front of every media call us out so media can post about it & "shame" Army, but in all honesty & humbleness it's our business. It's how we maintain our "relationship" & whether people outside the fandom know they "scolded" us or not is really none of outsiders' business.
In my opinion, JK's message "Artists are not to blame" was aimed precisely at the army, who in those days, and for months now, were fighting a bitter fanwar against the bunnies. But since in the cauldron, as always, there are those who go off and say horrible things against the artists, and since the situation of NJ was very particular, since they were and are manipulated by their producer MHJ, JK had the not so happy idea of scolding the army, causing a lot of chaos. Many said that he should have taken the defense of Illit, rather than NJ. And now, while in the past he had sung several times, I think, NJ's songs, in the last live he sang Magnetic by Illit.
I am Army and I think exactly like her, because it is based on concrete facts, so it is easy to be on her side. On the other hand, those who follow NJ live in illusions.
NJ have already given up on SK. Based on their events, they already planning on focusing on Japan and international if they still somehow survive. I like NJ. Especially their ditto and super natural songs and their choreo is fire. I don’t Stan any group though, except 2ne1 back in the day before they were unfairly terminated. However, although they’ll probably lose. I mean they are up against a giant corporation lol. But, man do I love rooting for the underdog.
@sushi0085 See, that's kind of the problem. ppl love to paint the "underdog" as the good people and a HUGE label as the bad people. people love to claim this Black and white picture in this drama, and that's simply not true. both have done wrong things imo.
@@WinningBlink Ya, I don’t care about whose right or wrong. One man’s t*****ist is another’s freedom fighter. It’s a fog of misinformation anyway. How many idols are abused by the industry and never get justice. It’s kpop drama…my life ain’t going to change. But still feels good to root against the underdog. Especially in an industry as dark and with who knows how many more rising sun evil still going on. Women in general are the underdog in SK culture. And it’s fun seeing the abuse thrown the other way for once. But like I said, they’ll probably lose. Heck 50/50 lost and they were up against a small company. No point in rooting for the side that’s predictably going to win. It’s the same as rooting for the United Health Care CEO shooter. He did something pretty hard to fathom , but well….hes the underdog and I root for them. Paint me however you like, an anarchist, an idiot, whatever. Down with the system for the wealthy. Let’s be honest, kpop is a brain drain for the continuing issues plaguing SK. A distraction I’m sure the wealthy love to exploit. See, unlike western art, these artist can’t even express their views. It’s sad really, that’s what music and art is all about. But thanks to kpop, it’s become a tool to keep the masses hypnotized to their ever growing social dilemma.
So having promotions, brand deals , luxury apartments, collabs, appearances on US award shows, tours , fun concepts, mvs, billboard visibility Is slave contract? Ok
@@yomarysanchez1808 Forced to have plastic surgry, starvation diets, no dating, no freedom of speech, forced to pay for all their training ,accomodation and recording costs etc etc, you need to do better research.
there is no evidence to the mistreatment that Newjeans have claimed. If Newjeans claimed for all of these things you mentioned as a reason to terminate the contract I most certainly would support this decision. However, they have not claimed any of the things you mentioned. Slavery is forced to be working under someone WITHOUT any pay. However, Kpop contracts is the definition of a two-way contract since both parties benefit from them. Hence, I disagree with this statement.
I agree with all of your points except "ILLIT are the true victims". ILLIT has not been mistreated by their company, I believe that they're both victims, and saying "Newjeans wanted to be involved" isn't true. They had no choice but to speak out against this. Don't act like Newjeans are the villains of this story. These are not opinions, you are just a Newjeans hater. You have been defending ILLIt this whole video. Give me 5 things you like about Newjeans or else you're just a hater.
@uraveragekpopfan 1. I never said that NWJNS are the villain of the story, my second point was literally that they were manipulated by MHJ. 2. What I meant by ILLIT are true victims were that they are the ones truly hurt by this whole drama since they were dragged by bunnies and hated extremely bad. Personally I feel that Newjeans could have kept silent so I feel that Newjeans wanted to be involved. 3. I feel like defending ILLIT never means that I hate Newjeans but sure. 4. Am I supposed to feel obliged to prove that I'm not a Newjeans hater? If you think I'm hating, you have not seen some videos out literally DEMOLISHING the girls. I'll have you know I like plenty of Newjeans songs with my personal favourite song being Gods. 5. Sweetheart you just proved my last point. Calling someone a Newjeans hater for saying their honest opinion. Now if you saw my video, I'm sure you can tell what I'm referring to you as.
@@WinningBlink sorry, not trying to be rude. I just rlly care abt the girls and i agree that mhj did manipulate them, i shouldve payed more attention to what u said. Great video btw
I’ve been fighting with toxic bunnies here in TH-cam & X for the exact same reason you just laid out. Unfortunately, I think NJ & bunnies are beyond saving at this point. They will not see to reason & will fight tooth & nail for MHJ. It’s so stupid they continue to support someone who has used them both as pawns to her agenda.
They probably want😢 to feel like they are a part of fighting for something worthwhile.
Its being a stan and never thinking your fave would ever do anything wrong. Its a parasocial relationship and they must defend them no matter what. Any other opinions or questions are labeled as hate or "you're a Hybe stan," lol. Even if the courts rule in Ador's favor, those fans will claim Hybe paid off the courts or something. Its blind loyalty or that "its fine-everything is fine" meme basically no matter how many holes in the narrative gets called out
@@janayroyster9968 that is true. They are delusional to thinking NJ is innocent & the victim in all this. At the beginning, they may have been. But ever since their live broadcast, they are now MHJ accomplice. I’m a multi HYBE artist fan so I would be under the HYBE Stan label too 🤣. But that doesn’t mean I don’t recognise when the company or the artist is wrong. It’s just common sense but seams like many toxic Tokkies don’t have that.
@ yes & that is what sad about it. They can’t see they have been used by someone who doesn’t care about them.
I agree with every point you’ve made. The fact that MHJ didn’t deny the article, which speaks volumes about MHJ and her character.
I feel so bad for Illit and not once has NWJS asked their fandom (it’s mostly the toxic bunnies) to stop hating Illit.
While NWJS can counter sue Ador to terminate their contracts but those kind of lawsuits can go on for years and cost tons of money unless they settle in court or do negotiations.
thta's true they said so many things but never told there fans to leave girls alone
Imo, she never does. Its always a reflection defense, it's never her fault or something was taken out of context-its just this person was wrong for exposing her "alleged" words and a hey look over there distraction. Thats her version of "mediaplay"-but most don't see it because they are too focused on we hate Hybe train
@@NeerajKumar-ju2vg they would get in trouble for telling their fans for not hate illit, but its only some bunnies, and being basically ignored and mistreated is more important.
@janayroyster9968 ik but she didn't even said anything at that timee see the audit again and it's the reflection of when u are lying and trying prove that lie a truth then you get defensive
@uraveragekpopfan then why aren't the bunnies telling other bunnies who are hating on them to stop being fr dude bunnies hated on illit Every bunny now there are some
you are splitting facts but bunnies won't understand they will call you hybe stan
The contrived motto, NewJeansNeverDie is completely absurd to hear while watching these young women literally torch their own careers, lol. Such vain, foolish, greedy people unable to recognize the hole they are digging for themselves. It's really like not being to take your eyes off of a train wreck.
I agree 100% with all your opinions. Bunnies are just delusional atp~
i also think that new jeans were never mistreated i mean that ignoring thing isn't that deep tho😅
they are getting everything from their debut days like rich kids
Hey the video was amazing by the way i think you should write text as well it will be even better 😅
@foreveryblink awww, thank you so much. I got tired to write subtitles, haha. I'll make sure next time❤
@@WinningBlink it's ok😇❤
I didn't even know they had their own hair salon that was exclusive to them , yet she went out her way to harass other groups so now I understand if the manager did say to ignore her it was cuz of her actions
they were ignored by bang pd multiple times and never the priority, bang pd never took photos with them and jealous of their sucess since they overshadowed their fav group lsf, hybe staff also made a big issue out of that minji drama
9:28 Honestly, this part made me question and wonder wtf is she saying? Bunnies keep arguing theyll bring more evidence and we went from yt live to national assembly to presscon, everyone knows the "mistreatment" she mentioned now coz shes said it so many times in a row. Why couldn't they just do it the legal way like everybody else and get it over with?...but no they gotta act like theyre fighting for something and onky then it can make them look like the victim they believe. Otherwise it wouldve been as smooth of a process to file a lawsuit with evidence so why is it taking so long while skipping every opportunity to bring it to the table....much less file a lawsuit coz filing it means bringing evidence and thats why no one believes they have any.
Vogue Korea created evidence that Min Hee-jin and New Jeans are together.
It was confirmed that Min Hee-jin's tampering was true, and that New Jeans continued to use her raw information.
As a result, Hive will be able to receive huge damages.
And I hope that Min Hee-jin and New Jeans receive clear punishment for their betrayal.
Good evidence fot Ador to sue
@edgloss1299 frr
I was nice that Jungkook sang Illit's 'Magnetic' during his surprise live today. I was such a surprise he did a live during his military leave
I love JK for what he did.
Yes it was.
Even if they are similar so what. There are so many things similar in this world
I'm utterly disappointed w/ Pham hanni. She was the one i sincerely supported among njs members. Tbh, not to hate, but during nwjs debut, i've already felt something was off among the grp. Even w/out knowing the negative background of their head creative producer, mhj, i've already sensed that most of the girls seemed over confident that sometimes border arrogance...maybe becoz they're young & a liberated generation. However i still chose to support them coz i genuinely like their music, not the grp. But hanni really showed a part of her real self. I originally applauded their bravery to stand yg against ador, hybe, etc. But the more the drama went on, the more their ploy is geting exposed. The girls, though mostly minor, aren't clueless at all. They know what they're gett8ng into. They are single handedly driven their career in support of mhj, a questionable personality, believing that only she can make them rise to the top. So creepy. And hanni, being one of the eldest members, a western, young, headstrong, smart girl is actively participating & leading the grp into this mess.
The Illit are younger than the JFF and are ten times more polite and respectable.
National Assembly really confused me.. I also went into it thinking it was time for the hammer to fall on evil HYBE. Then she just said the same things.. But she also said 'there were many other instances' and i'm like.. YOU'RE AT A HEARING. PLEASE EXTRAPOLATE HANNI PLEEEEAAAASE 😭
The fact that this guy who brought her has all these Bunnies fanboy stickers on his computer, these old guys are taking selfies with her, and the hearing is primarily for a company that caused the deaths of its employees..
It just felt so gross in the end.
Nj fans think now big 3 companies want nj and hybe lost his money makers and best gg I agree nj hybe best gg but not a money maker and also no company’s want them
HYBE now has GFriends, they only a short time in with HYBE (I forget which HYBE company), and they have sold out two tours.
Now - KMCA is stating the NJ should not be allowed on any shows. Phase-2 is just beginning.
@ but nj break the rule I mean they create new account without ador permission and also the brand deals also mention nj new account not old
@@mahammalik1581which they are digging their self deeper with by doing that. Court will be very interesting with all the evidence that the girls are doing to theirselves.
@@annbeck2298 GFriends are under Source Music.
I completely agree with you
#1... like how do those gals think they have so many opportunities and benefits.
the fa i think hanni is selfish i sthat the ador new ceo has been just become ceo for one day and she has to go to court and hanni saying that she misteated didn't listen us is soo much she was disrespecting the ceo but can't she take her as elder atleast
She was so acting. It was just something to laugh at.
@annbeck2298 yeahhh
@annbeck2298 truee cause she was being defensive for her lies till now
@annbeck2298 bunnies are actually kids young kids to still support them they don't understand these things
what i think is i have some question for nj
nj have their own makeup room styling and all then why they came to another styling room like fr
We all knew somewhere from the start MHJ and those ungrateful brats were lying
First point that I don't agree with is that "Dispatch gives information that is always true". Everything else you covered I agree with. I beleive MHJ has her hands in everything NJ is doing. I think the girls are ruining their careers.
oh wait, I actually meant but Dispatch is usually true! my bad!
I hope and pray that the NewJeans members either have a 4d chess level plan that will unfold before our eyes, or they all experience a Group Keena Event and just go back to Ador.
"Bunnies" are right about one thing. Companies want to make money. They have to, and jfc, Ador is trying. They don't exist without NewJeans and all signs point to a red carpet if they just stop the circus act. But I don't think that will happen.
The picture of Hanni hugging MHJ with a file in her hand next to a lawyer before going to the press conference.. It breaks my heart. I think they feel entirely dependent and beholden to her as if she was truly their mother.
Editing app??
@@Jai_hind_jai_bharat_49 I used capcut!
@WinningBlink good edited and your opinions are very true👍
@Jai_hind_jai_bharat_49 thank you!
im delusional
Some will think i shouldn't be saying this but it weird to call out New jeans for not telling their fans to stop harassing and hating on other artists, while bts is doing the exact same thing..... saying nothing.... That's one of the reasons why my army life ended years ago it's feels like they are somehow fake .
@@Sunnone true it is kind of weird for me to say that newjeans should do that😅 however I think if they plan on protecting other groups such as zerobaseone shouldn't this go for ALL groups if possible? I mean they practically only had this connection to ZB1 so would it hurt to protect another group with SO MANY sorts of connections? just my opinion tho😅
BTS have always shown the utmost deference and respect towards other groups in public, they are absolutely sociable and often feat idols from other groups, even non-Hybe. NJ have never missed an opportunity to be arrogant and disrespectful towards Illit and LSF, and have complained in public about Seventeen and Illit (it was clear that Hanni's complaint was about Illit). I agree that idols shouldn't intervene in these pitiful wars of 12-year-old girls, but fans watch how idols behave.
Yes, BTS has never openly tell Army to stop attacking other idols bcz majority of our fanbase didn't attack others unprovoked. & those Army that looks like always in other people business is actually a very small part of our fandom, so if BTS call out them wouldn't that means BTS generalize every single one of us when majority of us didn't do it? It's just bcz we are a huge fandom so even if it's just a small portion of our fandom, for others it's massive.
But did you know what BTS did instead when they want Army to not sending hate train to other artist? By working with those people, or showing support to those artist by singing their songs etc, or posting their "friendship" pic, by attending their concert, by being a guest in their show, etc. It comes to the point that we inside the fandom has an inside joke like "let's hate ............ so BTS collab with them".
Y'all outside the fandom might not know & realized this bcz it's subtle & BTS didn't out loud scream at those "toxic Army" to stop spreading hate but we inside the fandom definitely aware when they "tell us" that they're aware & they want us to know that they have good relationship with those people so we need to be mindful. We, Army, knows when they "scolded" us bcz of those "toxic Army". It might not satisfy people outside the fandom bcz most of y'all wish they bluntly, in our face and in front of every media call us out so media can post about it & "shame" Army, but in all honesty & humbleness it's our business. It's how we maintain our "relationship" & whether people outside the fandom know they "scolded" us or not is really none of outsiders' business.
In my opinion, JK's message "Artists are not to blame" was aimed precisely at the army, who in those days, and for months now, were fighting a bitter fanwar against the bunnies. But since in the cauldron, as always, there are those who go off and say horrible things against the artists, and since the situation of NJ was very particular, since they were and are manipulated by their producer MHJ, JK had the not so happy idea of scolding the army, causing a lot of chaos. Many said that he should have taken the defense of Illit, rather than NJ. And now, while in the past he had sung several times, I think, NJ's songs, in the last live he sang Magnetic by Illit.
BTS siempre le a dicho a Army que no se peleé 😅, no es culpa de ellos, si el fandom no lo puede evitar
Sorry but the AI narration is unbearable.
haha I'm not comfortable sharing my voice but I will probably maybe use a voice filter if I happen to make long form videos again😅
I agree with all, but except the mistreatment part, but its okey, you talked about the issue without downing the girls
@@Dreamer-v1y bunnies should learn from you fr🥹
of course blinks...
@ScarletFoxyt of course you'll assume my opinion is plainly because of the fact I'm a blink
@@WinningBlink so you see...
I am Army and I think exactly like her, because it is based on concrete facts, so it is easy to be on her side. On the other hand, those who follow NJ live in illusions.
NJ have already given up on SK. Based on their events, they already planning on focusing on Japan and international if they still somehow survive.
I like NJ. Especially their ditto and super natural songs and their choreo is fire. I don’t Stan any group though, except 2ne1 back in the day before they were unfairly terminated.
However, although they’ll probably lose. I mean they are up against a giant corporation lol. But, man do I love rooting for the underdog.
@sushi0085 See, that's kind of the problem. ppl love to paint the "underdog" as the good people and a HUGE label as the bad people. people love to claim this Black and white picture in this drama, and that's simply not true. both have done wrong things imo.
Incorrect. They are simply following the Ador produced schedule.
@@MoonstoneStarChaser And using the ADOR/HYBE money and support.
@@WinningBlink Ya, I don’t care about whose right or wrong. One man’s t*****ist is another’s freedom fighter. It’s a fog of misinformation anyway.
How many idols are abused by the industry and never get justice. It’s kpop drama…my life ain’t going to change. But still feels good to root against the underdog. Especially in an industry as dark and with who knows how many more rising sun evil still going on. Women in general are the underdog in SK culture. And it’s fun seeing the abuse thrown the other way for once.
But like I said, they’ll probably lose. Heck 50/50 lost and they were up against a small company. No point in rooting for the side that’s predictably going to win.
It’s the same as rooting for the United Health Care CEO shooter. He did something pretty hard to fathom , but well….hes the underdog and I root for them.
Paint me however you like, an anarchist, an idiot, whatever. Down with the system for the wealthy.
Let’s be honest, kpop is a brain drain for the continuing issues plaguing SK. A distraction I’m sure the wealthy love to exploit. See, unlike western art, these artist can’t even express their views. It’s sad really, that’s what music and art is all about. But thanks to kpop, it’s become a tool to keep the masses hypnotized to their ever growing social dilemma.
@@WinningBlink why my reply keep being deleted?
ADOR just like other Agencies treat their Idols and Trainees as Slaves so its nice to see Newjeans standing up for themselves.
So having promotions, brand deals , luxury apartments, collabs, appearances on US award shows, tours , fun concepts, mvs, billboard visibility
Is slave contract? Ok
@@yomarysanchez1808 Forced to have plastic surgry, starvation diets, no dating, no freedom of speech, forced to pay for all their training ,accomodation and recording costs etc etc, you need to do better research.
there is no evidence to the mistreatment that Newjeans have claimed. If Newjeans claimed for all of these things you mentioned as a reason to terminate the contract I most certainly would support this decision. However, they have not claimed any of the things you mentioned. Slavery is forced to be working under someone WITHOUT any pay. However, Kpop contracts is the definition of a two-way contract since both parties benefit from them. Hence, I disagree with this statement.
Haven't heard other groups complaining about HYBE. Now GFriends have joined HYBE. Lets watch them succeed.
“Everyone will disagree with me“
Proceeds to say what everyone is saying
Keep your thoughts to yourself 🙄
u haven't seen most bunnies comments have u?
@ you mean them supporting the girls?
@hadeeljabarti5047 and yet I never said that. I only said most MAY disagree with me, and I obv was referring to BUNNIES, lol
Yeah, keep _your_ thoughts to yourself! 😂
I agree with all of your points except "ILLIT are the true victims". ILLIT has not been mistreated by their company, I believe that they're both victims, and saying "Newjeans wanted to be involved" isn't true. They had no choice but to speak out against this. Don't act like Newjeans are the villains of this story. These are not opinions, you are just a Newjeans hater. You have been defending ILLIt this whole video. Give me 5 things you like about Newjeans or else you're just a hater.
Lol. How do you argue that the someone has to say 5 good things about NJs or they are hater?
NJs _are_ the Villain. You are just too involved.
@uraveragekpopfan
1. I never said that NWJNS are the villain of the story, my second point was literally that they were manipulated by MHJ.
2. What I meant by ILLIT are true victims were that they are the ones truly hurt by this whole drama since they were dragged by bunnies and hated extremely bad. Personally I feel that Newjeans could have kept silent so I feel that Newjeans wanted to be involved.
3. I feel like defending ILLIT never means that I hate Newjeans but sure.
4. Am I supposed to feel obliged to prove that I'm not a Newjeans hater? If you think I'm hating, you have not seen some videos out literally DEMOLISHING the girls. I'll have you know I like plenty of Newjeans songs with my personal favourite song being Gods.
5. Sweetheart you just proved my last point. Calling someone a Newjeans hater for saying their honest opinion. Now if you saw my video, I'm sure you can tell what I'm referring to you as.
@@WinningBlink sorry, not trying to be rude. I just rlly care abt the girls and i agree that mhj did manipulate them, i shouldve payed more attention to what u said. Great video btw
AI are so fascinating I'm impressed 🤣