If you liked this with Malfeasance, try it with Crimson. It does less damage overall and probably generates less grenade energy, but the 3 round burst builds the damage buff faster and you gain access to healing, which strand innately lacks. The ammo refund on headshot also makes it great for dealing with groups of enemies quickly, too.
@Vichas x It's damage per magazine. A full mag of malfeasance dumped into a champ will overall do more damage than crimson, but crimson will kill quicker so its better for less tanky Champs. A good solution if you're using crimson is to reload with marksman dodge right after you run out and continue shooting. Shouldn't be a huge difference
@@brayw.7109 Ok thanks, think i will just use the crimson then. Might be a little less overall damage but the fast burst and healing from crimson greatly helps strands lack of healing.
As a lucky pans strand hunter since lightfall day 1, I have been enjoying similar build ever since. I would give few more suggestion: weapon choice --1, crimson is good too, sometime even better than MALFEASANCE, it can greatly increase your survivability. 2, the real god weapon for this build is Seventh Seraph Revolver with reconstruction + vorpal (or harmony or redirection), reconstruction reloads 2 rounds per sec which perfectly match the out of luck debuff, so you never need reload, and with perk above, the Seventh Seraph Revolver do much more DPS than MALFEASANCE. 3, therefore, the energy slot you can use the most broken primary weapon - Fighting Lion! You only need fighting lion to clear red bars since it one shot anything, and once yellow bar or boss come, it's time for HC, also enjoy the crazy damage from vorpal or harmony (since you just kill a red bar with fighting lion).
ive been running the solar version of this build with crimson and radiant buffs and man. it shreds paired with crimson heals on kills its pretty cracked
@@darkrinshade4363 Yes that's it. For some reason this season since lightfall launch, Fighting Lion is doing 5x damage to red bars (only red bars not yellow bars or boss/champions) than it suppose to do. I think it's a bug but since Bungie is so lazy to fix it for entire season, why not enjoy it. 🙂
Actually the best class to abuse Fighting Lion is void GYRFALCON hunter, invis-shoot-invis-shoot forever. Even a beginner can solo any GM with that. Now I already refuse to use that build after a few days of enjoying, it makes the game boring. Same as I refuse to use starfire warlock last few season.
A very good legendary alternative to this is the Seventh Seraph Revolver with FttC + Vorpal, yes it won’t have any intrinsic unstoppable this season but it absolutely dishes out wild damage and opens up an exotic slot if need be.
Crimson is also a great swap if for some reason you're finding survivability to be an issue! My Seraph has reconstruction and I find that works great too because I never get through 27 bullets in the time window. Either are great! Great comment.
Seventh Seraph is absolutely the best legendary hand cannon to use if you want to run another exotic. Reconstruction and Vorpal are the best perks, though Fourth Time’s the Charm will also work. Seraph Rounds helps with crowd control. Otherwise, make sure its Stability is at least 60, and prioritize its Range stat for the rest. Don’t worry about Handling because Lucky Pants buffs that to 100 already. Reload Speed is not a huge priority, but Flared Magwell is an acceptable magazine perk (Seraph Rounds is still best, though). Smallbore or Chambered Compensator are probably its best two barrel perks. A Range or Stability masterwork is preferable. Using Thread of Ascent instead of Thread of Continuity (you don’t really need it) will help you out with instant reloading and general gunplay. I think it fits the build better.
I remember when strand came out and most of us thought it was mid! Little did we know, all you need is thread of generation, a shackle grenade and max discipline to make an infinite suspend build!
100% going to be trying this build out. Didn’t use my Strand build much before as I found the grapple spam sort of boring. Love that this isn’t tied to seasonal artifact perks either!
This looks really fun but isn't running both Grenade Kickstart and Kinetic Surge somewhat counterintuitive? Suspending with a grenade will remove all your armor charge right when you want to be damaging with Malpheasance so it's probably better to run one or the other.
@@hummuslord6521 I think the point is that if you throw a grenade and grenade kickstart eats all of your armor charge, then you don't have armor charge for kinetic surge so your malfeasance won't have the damage buff.
For anyone who didn't know as well you don't have to swap weapons to re-proc lucky pants. Pull out your ghost and it counts as stowing your hand cannon for a re-proc.
I have a solar build around crimson and lucky pants, takes advantage of radiant and restoration buffs as well, plus crimson heals on kills. No CC but a lot of on demand damage.
If your using grenade kickstart and weapon surge perks on your boots the kick-start perk will use all your armor charges so those two mods work against eachother.
@@joon-young9589 well if you have both equipped, when you use your grenade, grenade kickstart will take all your armor charges so then your weapon surge will not work because you have no charges left.
If I remember correctly from watching a damage test video, malfeasance with lucky pants is the highest primary damage in the game. That was before the hand cannon buff so it's even stronger now.
@@UltimateUnknown yeah thats obvious, i just wanted to mention it seperatly to point that malf has it anyways even if u cant suspend for a second :3 thank you regardless :3
Only issue I had when trying out Crimson in the past was the mag size being too small to take full advantage of the lucky pants buff. You build x10 faster, but spend part of the buff timer reloading. Definitely worth the shoutout though as it does have different strengths, specifically with the heal and faster burst damage. The mag refresh on precision kill comes in handy too but doesn't help the small mag size when doing single-target dps
Really good video and build, I find pulling my ghost out and putting him away to malfeasance fast and easier to activate or prock the pants when I do it and thought you may find it the same
@@Plunderthabooty When I need another exotic i also swap my HC for a reconstruction/vorpal 7th seraph officer revolver (but it also works with every 180rpm kinetic legendary HC), so I can take ''Le Monarque'' for add clearing + overload champion bullying
This pretty nearly the exact build I've been using and it makes Legend lost sectors trivial. Bosses and champs just get melted and it's evergreen because it doesn't depend on seasonal mods.
@Christian Glassel funny enough i was playing so good in gambit with my buddy while he was trying to get the malfeasance. He had asked to go on his account and i did it in first match. Felt quite bummy after it was so hard to complete on my account
I remember seeing somewhere that the Hunter's Strand dive ability doesn't actually activate class ability mods like Reaper/Bomber/Dynamo, etc. Is that still the case?
I used Lucky Pants on Void Hunter yesterday with Malfeasance. Didn't think about Strand to suspend them for easy headshots. Gonna have to give it a Try
I use a seventh seraph revolver ambitious assassin vorpal weapon and it slaps can easily take down red bars and reloads to get easily 30 bullets in the mag to then use on anything else
Wait until you find out about using disruption break and popping a shield then switching to malfeasance. I use lucky pants, malfeasance and ogma pulse w/ adaptive munitions and disruption break (shields and anti barriers) in GMs and do big damage. Also I’m not sure if lucky pants has the gun holster mod intrinsic now or not. Before light fall it would show the mod but I think you have to slot it now.
Gave this a try and the only way I could make it work with overload champs is to use a sword. Stunning them with e.g. an autorifle I just couldn't kill them fast enough before they started recovering.
Very clever. I haven't used lucky pants in I don't know how long. Haven't even tried it since the re-work however many seasons ago. Gonna have to try this though.
All week long I have working on this build and I was going to make a video about it but beat to it lol great video and kepe it up. I love this channel.
Im usually not that great at master lost sectors, so I'm pretty behind on my exotic armor collection, but this build is so damn amazing that I've finally gotten around to it, and caught up completely on hunter arms within a few runs and will be able to do so with other slots in the coming days. I hope you consider making parallel builds like this for the other classes, outside of just "strand is good" and calling it a day like a lot of build makers do I forgot to mention, this works even better with crimson since it can build up to max damage stacks really quickly
im putting this here now seventh seraph revolver is THE best legendary hand cannon for lucky pants just in case u wanna run something else. for me it was taking down champions almost as efficiently as malfeasance
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If you liked this with Malfeasance, try it with Crimson. It does less damage overall and probably generates less grenade energy, but the 3 round burst builds the damage buff faster and you gain access to healing, which strand innately lacks. The ammo refund on headshot also makes it great for dealing with groups of enemies quickly, too.
How much of a damage difference are we talking if i use crimson over malf?
@Vichas x It's damage per magazine. A full mag of malfeasance dumped into a champ will overall do more damage than crimson, but crimson will kill quicker so its better for less tanky Champs. A good solution if you're using crimson is to reload with marksman dodge right after you run out and continue shooting. Shouldn't be a huge difference
@@brayw.7109 Ok thanks, think i will just use the crimson then. Might be a little less overall damage but the fast burst and healing from crimson greatly helps strands lack of healing.
@@Vichax_ Crimson for burst dps, Malfeasance for overall damage.
Use recuperation mods and I mean orbs aren’t impossible to create.
As a lucky pans strand hunter since lightfall day 1, I have been enjoying similar build ever since. I would give few more suggestion: weapon choice --1, crimson is good too, sometime even better than MALFEASANCE, it can greatly increase your survivability. 2, the real god weapon for this build is Seventh Seraph Revolver with reconstruction + vorpal (or harmony or redirection), reconstruction reloads 2 rounds per sec which perfectly match the out of luck debuff, so you never need reload, and with perk above, the Seventh Seraph Revolver do much more DPS than MALFEASANCE. 3, therefore, the energy slot you can use the most broken primary weapon - Fighting Lion! You only need fighting lion to clear red bars since it one shot anything, and once yellow bar or boss come, it's time for HC, also enjoy the crazy damage from vorpal or harmony (since you just kill a red bar with fighting lion).
ive been running the solar version of this build with crimson and radiant buffs and man. it shreds paired with crimson heals on kills its pretty cracked
I forgot I even have a fighting lion, that's the exotic gl that doesn't use special ammo right ?
@@darkrinshade4363 Yes that's it. For some reason this season since lightfall launch, Fighting Lion is doing 5x damage to red bars (only red bars not yellow bars or boss/champions) than it suppose to do. I think it's a bug but since Bungie is so lazy to fix it for entire season, why not enjoy it. 🙂
Actually the best class to abuse Fighting Lion is void GYRFALCON hunter, invis-shoot-invis-shoot forever. Even a beginner can solo any GM with that. Now I already refuse to use that build after a few days of enjoying, it makes the game boring. Same as I refuse to use starfire warlock last few season.
That’s a good idea. I need to try this.
A very good legendary alternative to this is the Seventh Seraph Revolver with FttC + Vorpal, yes it won’t have any intrinsic unstoppable this season but it absolutely dishes out wild damage and opens up an exotic slot if need be.
The suspend will stun unstops anyways so this is big brain and let’s you use an exotic still big brain idea 👍
Crimson is also a great swap if for some reason you're finding survivability to be an issue! My Seraph has reconstruction and I find that works great too because I never get through 27 bullets in the time window. Either are great! Great comment.
I’ve been wanting a reason to seventh seraph. Thanks
Seventh Seraph is absolutely the best legendary hand cannon to use if you want to run another exotic. Reconstruction and Vorpal are the best perks, though Fourth Time’s the Charm will also work. Seraph Rounds helps with crowd control. Otherwise, make sure its Stability is at least 60, and prioritize its Range stat for the rest. Don’t worry about Handling because Lucky Pants buffs that to 100 already. Reload Speed is not a huge priority, but Flared Magwell is an acceptable magazine perk (Seraph Rounds is still best, though). Smallbore or Chambered Compensator are probably its best two barrel perks. A Range or Stability masterwork is preferable.
Using Thread of Ascent instead of Thread of Continuity (you don’t really need it) will help you out with instant reloading and general gunplay. I think it fits the build better.
Where can we get seventh seraphs this season?
I remember when strand came out and most of us thought it was mid! Little did we know, all you need is thread of generation, a shackle grenade and max discipline to make an infinite suspend build!
I feel like I've been saying this since it came out; Hunter was always going to fit the Trapper archetype.
100% going to be trying this build out. Didn’t use my Strand build much before as I found the grapple spam sort of boring. Love that this isn’t tied to seasonal artifact perks either!
This looks really fun but isn't running both Grenade Kickstart and Kinetic Surge somewhat counterintuitive? Suspending with a grenade will remove all your armor charge right when you want to be damaging with Malpheasance so it's probably better to run one or the other.
It could be depending on the difficulty of the activity and how easy of a time you have getting armor charge.
Kickstart gives a bit of grenade energy for free even when you have no armor charges
@@hummuslord6521 I think the point is that if you throw a grenade and grenade kickstart eats all of your armor charge, then you don't have armor charge for kinetic surge so your malfeasance won't have the damage buff.
Better off running Font of Discipline which would sync with the Kinetic Surges and frees up stat space for any other allocation one could want.
@@HadesReplay is it worth if i have 100 discipline already?
For anyone who didn't know as well you don't have to swap weapons to re-proc lucky pants. Pull out your ghost and it counts as stowing your hand cannon for a re-proc.
Not really much of a difference then just simply swapping to a different weapon
I have a solar build around crimson and lucky pants, takes advantage of radiant and restoration buffs as well, plus crimson heals on kills. No CC but a lot of on demand damage.
If your using grenade kickstart and weapon surge perks on your boots the kick-start perk will use all your armor charges so those two mods work against eachother.
so you can only have one equipped. ?
@@joon-young9589 well if you have both equipped, when you use your grenade, grenade kickstart will take all your armor charges so then your weapon surge will not work because you have no charges left.
If I remember correctly from watching a damage test video, malfeasance with lucky pants is the highest primary damage in the game. That was before the hand cannon buff so it's even stronger now.
You aint using lucky pants vs red bars bro
Crimson HC also works like a charm in this build. just no intrinsic unstop like malf :3
If I'm not mistaken suspending a target automatically stuns unstops anyway so unstop rounds aren't needed.
@@UltimateUnknown yeah thats obvious, i just wanted to mention it seperatly to point that malf has it anyways even if u cant suspend for a second :3 thank you regardless :3
Only issue I had when trying out Crimson in the past was the mag size being too small to take full advantage of the lucky pants buff. You build x10 faster, but spend part of the buff timer reloading. Definitely worth the shoutout though as it does have different strengths, specifically with the heal and faster burst damage. The mag refresh on precision kill comes in handy too but doesn't help the small mag size when doing single-target dps
@@mr_ekshun totally agree with you. but i think the pros outweight the cons "luckily"
@NerdWitDank crimson is underrated af imo, its a great HC and yeah i do pref it. but it depends on the situation. love malf also :3
As soon as I saw malfeasance. I knew lucky pants was involved can’t wait to try this out. Plunder always coming threw with the fire builds
Ran this in proving grounds last week with crimson. Works incredibly well.
If you don’t have malfeasance I also recommend using outbreak prime or thorn or witherhoard for that extra tick damage.
I prefer Malfeasence myself, but Crimson is probably more effective for what you’re doing and for lucky pants in general
If you don't have the malfeasance, what's a good weapon to fill in?
Crimson and seventh seraph revolver (if you have a good roll) if not those, last word I guess?
Really good video and build, I find pulling my ghost out and putting him away to malfeasance fast and easier to activate or prock the pants when I do it and thought you may find it the same
Does the lumina buff stack with the lucky pants buff by chance? Could be spicy…
Been using that all of the season and it helped me carry so many GM. The Glassway is a breeze with this
That is awesome! I can't believe I didn't think about it sooner lol
@@Plunderthabooty When I need another exotic i also swap my HC for a reconstruction/vorpal 7th seraph officer revolver (but it also works with every 180rpm kinetic legendary HC), so I can take ''Le Monarque'' for add clearing + overload champion bullying
@koolenjoy7369 oh my this sounds insane
Ive actually been trying this build out since the buff to hand cannons and others and its honestly been doing great compared to void hunter in GMs .
I've been using this build. But I'm glad that you've made improvements to it, because it's way better now!
This pretty nearly the exact build I've been using and it makes Legend lost sectors trivial. Bosses and champs just get melted and it's evergreen because it doesn't depend on seasonal mods.
Xur happens to be selling Lucky Pants this weekend too 4/28-4/30. It’s not a great roll, but if you didn’t have one like me
I finally just got this malfeasance! It took two days of gambit, twas a struggle. But i got it. Step 6 was def the hardest step
I finally got it a little over a month ago and it was a challenge. Honestly, if you just grind Gambit enough the quest will get done.
@Christian Glassel funny enough i was playing so good in gambit with my buddy while he was trying to get the malfeasance. He had asked to go on his account and i did it in first match. Felt quite bummy after it was so hard to complete on my account
You have got to be kidding me!
I’ve been looking for days for a lucky pants build using strand and the best build creator comes out with one!
If i were to use a smg on this build, what weapon would i use? Abd what rolls
What are the other weapons that you paired with your Malfeasance this build?
Malfeasance got its catalyst in season 21, gives it 20 range and vorpal
Any suggestions for special/heavy
I remember seeing somewhere that the Hunter's Strand dive ability doesn't actually activate class ability mods like Reaper/Bomber/Dynamo, etc. Is that still the case?
Yup sadly
Do you recommend it another hand Cannon because I don't have that handcannon in my vault...???
Crimson can be good too!
Ok cool thanks you
Lucky pants.. I can't believe I forgot about this also. Great video as always!
Awesome, I was rocking this on Tuesday soloing the master lost sector over and over again. absolutely love this build.
How'd it go after the monster nerf ?
@@kopkiwi08 had to build more into getting shackle faster. But nerf didn't affect it for me. Same strategy clearing flawlessly
@@TheTechMachina Mind sharing your full setup?
What would be some alternatives to the malfeasance?
Great vid btw u can also use crimson for this since can it heal also
I liked crimson too! I tested both and I felt I liked Malfeasance just a bit more. Infinite rang with the Slug Explosions is nice! :)
I never got around to get the malfeasance but I will try, perhaps today.
after spending 4 hours grinding gambit i have got the malfeasance! the build is working like a charm. thanks plunder! keep plundering tha booty man
Been using LuckyPants for a year now. it's my fav hunter exotic and most used as well. absolutely love it.
I used Lucky Pants on Void Hunter yesterday with Malfeasance. Didn't think about Strand to suspend them for easy headshots. Gonna have to give it a Try
You came on time with this, considering that heavy handed and firepower doesn’t spawn 2 orbs at once. Very sad about that
Just got my Malfeasance TODAY.. its like you read my mind with this build.
I use a seventh seraph revolver ambitious assassin vorpal weapon and it slaps can easily take down red bars and reloads to get easily 30 bullets in the mag to then use on anything else
Would this work out with thorn?
Been preaching this build from the rooftops and people don’t believe me! Great vid plunder!
Wait until you find out about using disruption break and popping a shield then switching to malfeasance. I use lucky pants, malfeasance and ogma pulse w/ adaptive munitions and disruption break (shields and anti barriers) in GMs and do big damage. Also I’m not sure if lucky pants has the gun holster mod intrinsic now or not. Before light fall it would show the mod but I think you have to slot it now.
I do not have the Malfeance quest. Is there a substitute for this weapon?
Crimson is really good as well 👍
@@Plunderthabooty thanks. I enjoy the build and am using the Crimson.
Cool build this makes me wish I played hunter
Gave this a try and the only way I could make it work with overload champs is to use a sword. Stunning them with e.g. an autorifle I just couldn't kill them fast enough before they started recovering.
Very clever. I haven't used lucky pants in I don't know how long. Haven't even tried it since the re-work however many seasons ago. Gonna have to try this though.
Funny enough I used malfeasance and the last word through the legendary campaign, they didn’t fail me then and now with the buff they are insane
Ive been using the Montecarlo to get my rope dart back and using my rope dart to get my grenade back and spamming that non stop
All week long I have working on this build and I was going to make a video about it but beat to it lol great video and kepe it up. I love this channel.
Wouldnt radiant from a solar build be better for raw damage?
Any necessary artifact mods or just use whatever you find more useful? Love the build btw!
Does Dynamo work when using the Hunter ensaring slam?
Im usually not that great at master lost sectors, so I'm pretty behind on my exotic armor collection, but this build is so damn amazing that I've finally gotten around to it, and caught up completely on hunter arms within a few runs and will be able to do so with other slots in the coming days. I hope you consider making parallel builds like this for the other classes, outside of just "strand is good" and calling it a day like a lot of build makers do
I forgot to mention, this works even better with crimson since it can build up to max damage stacks really quickly
Awesome build thanks
would you run this in a gm nightfall?
Hey is it possible if you could make a good Stasis build for titan?
Any plans for an updated arc warlock build?
Whats your artifact set up also
Artifact mods Don't matter for the overall build 🙂 but if there were a few to take I'd say volatile flow and authorized grenades mod 👍
@@Plunderthabooty thank you so much 👌
Definitely will need to try this , been wanting to run lucky pants with unique utility!!
Malfeasance is my favorite hand cannon
im putting this here now seventh seraph revolver is THE best legendary hand cannon for lucky pants just in case u wanna run something else. for me it was taking down champions almost as efficiently as malfeasance
I love mobalytics but there is no artifact mod list like with the DIM link. So would adding a DIM link be too much trouble?
@@Solder_Soldier you correct. It’s that male vision that sees so selectively. Thanks for the assist.
the way he says "continuity" is like he's never heard the word spoken aloud before
Finally a good build for hunter strand😊
this looks really fun, excited to try it. thanks
Your builds are the best!Just tried master lost sector.Solo flawless!Thanks!
Tip: When you running out of the illegally modded holster buff hold your ghost out and it refreshes.
Do reaper and bomber proc on the suspend dive now?
Thanks for this Strand build! After the Hands On and Ashes to Assets Hotfix nerf last night this came just in time. My Pal Mal is my fave HC!
Oh oi boi Boi oi ❤! Malfeasance!!!!!
How do you deal with overload champions?
doesnt witherhoard synergize with this too? like if someone in your party uses it?
Is this still good with all the nerfs to Strand hunter that just went live?
Nice. I was wondering if someone was going to talk about Lucky Pants with Strand
What special should I use with this?
Wow, thanks for the build brother.
Remember that the buff from the patch only works for red bar and orange bar enemies (not champions) still a fun build tho
Can you ue it as close up boss dps?
Crimson also works well because it stacks up so fast
Does thron work with this build
😮great bro thanks
I've been waiting for a build from u buddy
This build, absolutely slays!
Does kinetic surge stack with the kinetic weapon dmg bonus when you are matching the surge with your subclass?
yeah
what machine is being used in this build?
I will never unhear „suspendy buff“
I prefer Crimson more but damn i missed Lucky Pants Builds. ❤
would crimson work well with this build? Just got strand on hunter, and sadly I don't have malfeasance :(
@@LivingToDye why Not? I Love the Combination of Crimson and Lucky Pants. :)
@@LB-xu4mh Im not the greatest at pvp. so haven't tried to get it. and I'm gonna try the build out tonight with crimson. thanks :)
Yes my god I've just started using thank you
Only issue is Bungie removed the inherent hand cannon holster mod (who knows why) so you need to reload the malfeasance every time
I would really love to see an Orpheus rig build with deadfall.
I have heard that it’s really good
Let's goo and the build got buffed btw I've used this build and knew it was real strong
I don't get how you are putting al those mods on without going over the energy... are you not using any stat increase mods?
The artifact mods reduce the cost of certain mods
Your bloody legend mate, someone get this man a stubby!
I'm hype for this. Hell of a build
Hey can you do a mantle of battle harmony build?
Thanks! I’m a Titan main for awhile now but I’m looking to reintroduce myself to hunter and I do believe this will be the best build for me to get reacquainted! Thank you!
Your welcome and thank you! I really appreciate the extra support and the super thanks! 😊
Wait so why is your super regening so fast when shooting something with malfeasance in the gameplay?