Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 II vs. 25mm f/1.7 review

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  • @chirsd666
    @chirsd666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done comparison. Your camera gear reviews are among the most informative and witty on TH-cam. Keep them coming please!

  • @johnupper5225
    @johnupper5225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic review.
    I particularly liked the way you showed the differences in focus speed and in focus shifting (excellent idea to use a sheet of paper with the word "focus" printed in multiple rows).

  • @nathanmalaker2865
    @nathanmalaker2865 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I've been waiting for this kind of video for a long time, thank you!

  • @Luigiz28
    @Luigiz28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great video! I love my Panasonic 20mm lens! It's lives on my Em10 camera and it's so versatile. Plus it's sharp! I've shot everything from landscapes, cityscapes, flowers, and portraits. Anything that's stationary, this lens is perfect 👌

  • @lucascorreia9916
    @lucascorreia9916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a great review, man! I wish I had discovered your channel before: great work! (it’s truly refreshing to watch a straightforward review) PERFECT! Congrats!

  • @SergiMedina
    @SergiMedina 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very thorough but not long, straight to the point and complete. Amazing, thanks!

  • @ellenbritto
    @ellenbritto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the review! Love the sense of humor in the end :)

  • @ulfjonsson2122
    @ulfjonsson2122 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very nice review! I have used my 20mm for close to 9 years (mkI).
    Love the quality - sometimes (seldom) hate the focusing speed!
    Keep up the good work - Regards Ulf (do have Olympus and Fuji 25mm lenses).

  • @b3naqua
    @b3naqua 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Nice review!! I loooove both of these lenses, especially the 20mm. It’s so small and easy to use, even though its focus is slow and loud.

    • @yunggripmsp2211
      @yunggripmsp2211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought this was the version 2 20mm

    • @maeveofthelongbows9552
      @maeveofthelongbows9552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Benicio Victor Hope your girlfriend finds out your true character quickly and dumps you with no mercy.

  • @ghangj
    @ghangj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best review i have seen so far. Thanks for making my decision easy.

  • @AmadoWildlifeVideos
    @AmadoWildlifeVideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very thorough comparison, beautifully presented, thank you.

  • @ordinosaurs
    @ordinosaurs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Having had both, I sold the 20. It's not that it's slow to focus, the real trouble is it's unpredictable. It can start to hunt for no reason while your image is gone. The 25 is not only a bit faster, but it nails the shot every single time. And the 20 cost about thrice as much...

  • @TerenceKearns
    @TerenceKearns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Seriously best review on these lenses. Keep up the good work.

  • @buildingsheriff
    @buildingsheriff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Dude, your reviews are EXCELLENT. Your English is incredible - "take one for the team"!! Keep it up.

    • @TerenceKearns
      @TerenceKearns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL. I fuckin LOVE the accent. I want to learn it...

  • @BennyLindroth
    @BennyLindroth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much! I have the 25mm but get strange results. I will check your other video on this. Fantastic review!

  • @808islandlife_HI
    @808islandlife_HI 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another very thorough review. Thanks .

  • @christianschreier4990
    @christianschreier4990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent review! Straight to the point, comprehensive and the examples are easy to follow. Had the 20mm coupled with a small GM5 trying to keep everything compact and was quite happy with it. It got stolen and now I can get both used for a decent price and was wondering witch was a better investment. I think I'll get the 20mm again first and the 25mm in the future. Thanks for the review.

  • @DerVagabundli
    @DerVagabundli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've never really had focus shift problems with the 25. But then again, I usually use it more or less wide open most of the time..

  • @TheophilusCarlos
    @TheophilusCarlos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good video. Thank you. I have the 20mm and my brother has the 25mm. This review is very accurate. Great pacing and attention to detail.

  • @jpcreativeimagery
    @jpcreativeimagery 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great comparison video, nice and thorough!

  • @georgiosvasilopoulos4650
    @georgiosvasilopoulos4650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exemplary video comparison! Amazing work!

  • @puledressdesigns
    @puledressdesigns 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting for this video! Thank you!

  • @smalltalk.productions9977
    @smalltalk.productions9977 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    a thoughtful analysis, as always. thank you for the effort and the sharing. thumbs up. i am now a subscriber.

  • @ybyap
    @ybyap 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very detail comparison!!! Good job!!!!Thank you.

  • @BestmobilesInUa
    @BestmobilesInUa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this great review! I search long time review like this.

  • @seanmangan2769
    @seanmangan2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a very thorough review!

  • @AntonisK
    @AntonisK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a front focus problem with my first copy of 25 1.7
    and changed it and the second copy is perfect
    so its a lens copy variation and not a model problem

  • @ericdelrio4614
    @ericdelrio4614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your great video. Concise and useful information organization

  • @MichaelWTurner
    @MichaelWTurner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very thorough. Thank you. I have the 25mm. It's a nice lens!

  • @rjkral
    @rjkral 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison well done!

  • @AlexEF21
    @AlexEF21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great Video! Thank you so much!
    Be a owner of the 20mm and love it on my GX80

  • @CaptainRon85
    @CaptainRon85 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review!

  • @desy666
    @desy666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really really nice review. Thanks alot 🙂👍🏻

  • @AdventureTravelandScuba
    @AdventureTravelandScuba 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent comparison video im happy with my 25mm lot of work went in to this review do you have any video on settings with g85 for video and photo i have seen a lot of video but yours is very clear great work

  • @pounceonyou1958
    @pounceonyou1958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review! thanks.

  • @sanposurustu6458
    @sanposurustu6458 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very helpful, thanks.

  • @FKfilmphotography
    @FKfilmphotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you look at my 20mm review and see the quality you can achieve from it. I love the 20mm as it's close to 35mm full frame amazing for environmental portraits and narrative head shots. No focus by wire either or focus shift. The focus is only slower that's it.

  • @Advertisingvideos
    @Advertisingvideos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What kind of lenses you will suggest , for shooting in low light (for exaple restaurants.)
    Focal Length ?
    Angle of View ?
    Max Aperture f/ ??
    Min Aperture f/??
    Stabilised
    I use body panasonic G6

  • @martincarran4294
    @martincarran4294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, great review. Cheers

  • @photokingofcool1947
    @photokingofcool1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent test. Do you recommend using 20mm on Olympus camera body? I have GX7, and friend uses OMD5 Mk111.

  • @joakimtollerud2172
    @joakimtollerud2172 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Thanks!

  • @OpenFilmmaker
    @OpenFilmmaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review!

  • @RomiesStudio
    @RomiesStudio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, very good video very detailed and lined out. Thank you

  • @IttePerkele
    @IttePerkele 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought the 25mm and 42.5mm 1.7 as a second-hand for 370€ :) Is it possible to save a profile (aply it to one of the FN-buttons) into G9 for the 25mm focus shift adjustment?

  • @LOTUSARTSTUDIO-gx8yf
    @LOTUSARTSTUDIO-gx8yf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful review 😊, Thank you

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good review: the 20mm is sadly quite slow to focus, but otherwise is a tremendous lens with a fantastic all around focal lenght. The 25mm is cheap, but IMO Olympus makes overall a better lens, with slightly better build quality, no chromatic aberration (Olympus camera don't CA automatically) no focus shift and no focus breath in video.
    It costs a bit more through.

  • @user-vi3oq5yy8x
    @user-vi3oq5yy8x 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for your clear and nice video

  • @JerikoFoxTrail
    @JerikoFoxTrail 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this review! Very helpful for deciding which one to choose.

  • @ChocoLater1
    @ChocoLater1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Autofocus on 25 mm lens is better handled if tracking focus is applied so it doesn't focus back and forth every time you or subject move

  • @sylvainpaquette6132
    @sylvainpaquette6132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had both for a year and would almost never used the 25mm since the 20mm produced better pictures and it's small and light.

  • @nutella_drifter
    @nutella_drifter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am planning to buy a normal prime lens so this video is heaven sent:) I
    wish they made a pancake size 25mm just for sake of compactness.

  • @sneen3707
    @sneen3707 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, can you compare the 12mm 1.4 (Summilux), 17mm and/or the 25mm on MFT cam with a 24mm f1.4, 35mm f1.4 and a 50mm f1.4 on a fullframe cam, please? Many greatings from germany.

  • @nore8141
    @nore8141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and commentary as always. Just got my g85 with the kit lens. Should one of these lens be part of my gear?

    • @let070
      @let070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      20mm for photo, 25mm for video

  • @ninofanuko7812
    @ninofanuko7812 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pozdrav super review :)

  • @seitanicgoat3194
    @seitanicgoat3194 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I have the 42.5 1.7 and I am looking for a wider lens for video from panasonic. Size kinda matters also as I want to carry it everyday with me. Any suggestion? Thank you

  • @stevewhiteley9249
    @stevewhiteley9249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I couldn’t live with the slow and noisy focus on the 20mm even though I wanted to like it. The 25mm is much snappier and I prefer using it. It’s also useful with extension tubes as a macro option. It’s worth pointing out that although bigger than the 20mm it is still small and light. Thanks for the review.

    • @joseespadin274
      @joseespadin274 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where can I find those extension tubes for macro?

    • @stevewhiteley9249
      @stevewhiteley9249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joseespadin274 Amazon

    • @cristibaluta
      @cristibaluta ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish i read your comment last week when i bought one, the reviewers don't make it sound so bad like it really is, and none talks about the noise it makes.

  • @artistjoh
    @artistjoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Making a choice... I chose the 20 1.7 plus Sigma 30mm f1.4. I have owned the 20 1.7 since it was first introduced. Sharpness plus smallness makes it a no-brainer.

  • @FabrizioBalliano
    @FabrizioBalliano 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is just a great, great video!

  • @rascalhusky8129
    @rascalhusky8129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video , first class . Great accent.

  • @WolfStreetFilms
    @WolfStreetFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the flare

  • @ericpersoff4106
    @ericpersoff4106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful! Thank you for posting! So if I will use the lens mainly for portraits, you would recommend the 25mm, correct?

  • @EdStarkey
    @EdStarkey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent review! I have both lenses, and I thought the 20mm was sharper, but I may be running into the focus shift issue!

  • @DaXin3
    @DaXin3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really nice review, and reaaallly accurate... =) i own the 20mm and.. Yay. Its wonderfull ans you describe. Really good results and sharpness, with de boundaries os Panasonic systms. I'm usint it on a GM1 and i guess it will work good on a bigger camera like ghe g9 in a few years

  • @dorini5945
    @dorini5945 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You an also get the zuiko 17mm 1.8, which is probably better than both.

  • @dwiawijanarko5300
    @dwiawijanarko5300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hallo, thankyou so much for this review! It is simple but covering what i need to know :)
    I want to ask something, between the 25mm and 12-32mm kit (on the same aperture), how about the image quality and focusing speed?
    Thankyou in advance
    Sorry for my bad english

    • @TheRoadrunner11
      @TheRoadrunner11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Focusing speed is far better on the kit lens. Image quality in good light is comparable between the the two (except for bokeh, which doesn't exist on the 12-32mm). At night or indoors the 20mm f1.7 is an amazing lens. You just need to deal with the slow and unreliable autofocus.

  • @Quantumphotographic
    @Quantumphotographic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review, thank you...
    Did you notice any loss of definition on the 20mm when stopping down to f8 - f22?
    I've only had mine for a few weeks and was really disappointed in the image quality when trying to get a large depth of field on some landscape images. I did some tests afterwards and found that the optimum aperture for me was f5.6 - it was a very noticeable difference...

    • @Camerahoarders
      @Camerahoarders  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is due to diffraction (too small of an aperture) and happens on all lenses ever made. I rarely use more than f/11 on micro 43 cameras. F/16 can be really soft while f/22 becomes a pudding.

  • @RotterStudios
    @RotterStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a GH5 and the 25mm F1.7. i'm looking for a little more width. is it worth getting the 20mm for the little more width i need for shots?

    • @FullTekAuto
      @FullTekAuto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. It's wide enough to vlog with or get a lot in frame in close spaces. I've had the Panasonic 25mm and sold it because it was just too much range for me. I could barely get myself in frame in my room. I got the Panasonic 14mm 2.5 and that was okay but too wide and I missed the compressed cinematic/portait shots from my 25mm. To
      If you can only have 1 prime lens. This would be it. Especially at 1.7 it is ridiculous.

  • @kevinlui8601
    @kevinlui8601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding minimum focusing distance.. was there a mistake? The info online indicate 20mm is 0.2m vs 25mm’s 0.25m. So, isn’t the 20mm supposed to be closer?!

  • @DesignSPN
    @DesignSPN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any distortion effect on the 25mm lens?

  • @deepoteet7626
    @deepoteet7626 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job!

  • @njvr7540
    @njvr7540 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone tell me what is a good lens for product photos on a Panasonic G7?

  • @GiacomoArdesi
    @GiacomoArdesi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as usual Ivan. You talk about a possible 25mm Mark II but don't you think shift focus issues could be fixed via lens/camera firmware updates?

    • @Camerahoarders
      @Camerahoarders  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It probably could be solved that way, but Panasonic most likely won't bother updating older cameras or this lens. Many users might not even know there is an update. It is probably easier for them to make Mark II with better optical design.

  • @StanleyAditya
    @StanleyAditya 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect video reviewww thanks alooooot

  • @rolfen
    @rolfen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 20mm IS speed sensitive on my Olympus body and it is annoying. You can notice it when you turn it slowly. The difference is that it does not jump very fast when you turn it quickly.

  • @androidgameplays4every13
    @androidgameplays4every13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one would you recommend?

  • @alexm.6549
    @alexm.6549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @paulplus3830
    @paulplus3830 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love my 20mm. I have it always on my GX80. I know it's most likely the slowest focussing mft lens, but I'm not shooting sports with it. ;)

    • @noorur
      @noorur 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the image quality inferior ?

    • @TheophilusCarlos
      @TheophilusCarlos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      noorur image quality is better on the 20mm by a very small margin

  • @michelmichel-go5yg
    @michelmichel-go5yg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    merci pour la video

  • @MinimalWave1982
    @MinimalWave1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i idint get that problem with the focus shift can someone explain?

  • @NeilNTR
    @NeilNTR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which will be better for video or maybe another inexpensive lens? Camera: GX85, Subject: Indoor food videos.

    • @Camerahoarders
      @Camerahoarders  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      25mm focuses better in video mode - no sudden jumps and is quieter.

    • @DaXin3
      @DaXin3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look for stabilized lenses if you are going to move arround handmade and search that speciffic lenses for video works. For example i recorded a lot of zoom in sceens in my 14-140 with very good results by hand holding it! Anyway, for static videos or close ones, this kind of lenses look great too. At the end it depends on the point of view you are going to prefeere

  • @mo_-wd3rc
    @mo_-wd3rc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, are these lenses capable of shooting the northern lights? Which one is better for it?

    • @Camerahoarders
      @Camerahoarders  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Auroras usually look best shot with ultra wides like Laowa 7.5mm. th-cam.com/video/CJuIofTrnOI/w-d-xo.html

  • @MasterOfBasses
    @MasterOfBasses 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 20mm caught my eye since it will make my GH2 almost as portable as a LX100

  • @rep3e4
    @rep3e4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @Albertmars32
    @Albertmars32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    which one do u recommend for doing overhead unbox videos?

    • @Camerahoarders
      @Camerahoarders  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't matter, you'll have fixed scene and focus at fixed distance. Get the one you can find for less money.

  • @kimboih5906
    @kimboih5906 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I am new to photography and I am wondering if the panasonic lens works on Canon Sl2?

    • @Camerahoarders
      @Camerahoarders  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you need Canon lens. These will be great: ths: th-cam.com/video/mj5S8hxuAL8/w-d-xo.html

  • @Pertamax7-HD
    @Pertamax7-HD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok sir

  • @nicolaslachance5057
    @nicolaslachance5057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lolll playing darts on your face in Panasonic's office

  • @Christophe-Cochez
    @Christophe-Cochez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good
    I Hope WE have a compare, 20 mm and 12/30 f 2,8 .

  • @hgw7573
    @hgw7573 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!!!!

  • @ProfessioneVideomaker
    @ProfessioneVideomaker 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    fabolous and so usefull

  • @matthewblake2258
    @matthewblake2258 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had both. Sold the 25mm. Colours are better on the 20mm

  • @OutRAjious
    @OutRAjious 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25 seems to have a touch more contrast which is the most important quality to me .. but a pancake is a pancake ie so portable

  • @loft4me
    @loft4me 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I like pancake, but I seem to waffle between the two. ; -)

    • @datalaforge
      @datalaforge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is an under-celebrated youtube comment. Just perfect.

    • @loft4me
      @loft4me 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@datalaforge Lol

    • @dcxdanny
      @dcxdanny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL

    • @evocati6523
      @evocati6523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're both good, I wouldn't say either one is a piece of crepe

    • @leemartin9156
      @leemartin9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evocati6523 😂

  • @MarkCranerium
    @MarkCranerium 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would the 25mm be ok for shooting a party in a dark home?

  • @giorgoskourmoulakis4608
    @giorgoskourmoulakis4608 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice job

  • @baronvonmaximillionsnell2757
    @baronvonmaximillionsnell2757 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 25mm.. Its very good & sharp.

  • @godofhope
    @godofhope 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    On a Olympus body purple fringing is excessive on the 20mm!

  • @Advertisingvideos
    @Advertisingvideos 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of lenses should i use for video shooting in low light, for example video in restaurant.
    Automatic lenses or with manual exposure/focus (prime lens)
    What mm focal lenght should be ?
    I use panasonic G6 body

  • @DaddyJamesFilms
    @DaddyJamesFilms 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already have the 25mm is it worth buying the 20mm lens too?

    • @ch3ckm8
      @ch3ckm8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol no, way too similar. Like five foot steps away similar

    • @DaddyJamesFilms
      @DaddyJamesFilms 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ch3ckm8 lol thx thought so

  • @iunewind
    @iunewind 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks