I feel like when a company stops selling a console the games should be open for emulation because they are unpurchasable. And anything over 20 years old should be considered preserving history.
Reminds me of Apple naming one of their system alert sounds “Sosumi” because of their absurdly long legal battle over trademarks with Apple Corps (the record company set up by the Beatles). 25 years, that silliness lasted.
The disconnect is that gamers think that Nintendo doesn’t understand that more will pop up. They do understand it. But Nintendo has more money to bankrupt a company in court if they step out of line
@@paulaclark2101that has nothing to do with it. The only reason Nintendo was able to deal a blow to Yuzu was because the developers got greedy and tried to profit off the emulation which gave Nintendos lawyers the ammunition to eliminate them. Yes, Nintendo has money coming out the wazu but even that can’t stop a developer with enough sense to operate in a way that Nintendo can’t interfere with. Nintendo was just biding their time and waiting for Yuzu/Citra to slip which they did. Hence why Ryujinx is still operating
@QuantumChrist I doubt their hardware & software sales are doing all that well anymore. It's good for a console going on 8 years, but it's a far cry from where they used to be. No major 1st party releases left, 3rd party support has dried up outside of indies & heavily compromised AA ports, and only remasters & low effort games left in the tank. They've waited so long for Switch 2, they risk another GC/Wii U failure with 3rd parties being unable to support them.
Emulation is inevitable. No matter how much Nintendo tries to get rid of them, someone else will come over to take its place. Nintendo needs to stop being stubborn and put their games on PC as well, that way less people will pirate their games. They also need to make a powerful console with the Switch 2 or whatever they call it, otherwise its gonna be another easy emulator in a couple of years.
0:40 - Nintendo doesn't hate emulators themselves. They hate private ownership and customer's doing what they want with what they purchased or using their products how they like. It's why they also go after any modification to consoles or games and have a very restrictive license agreement you can look up which narrowly defines how you can use your software. It also bans things like renting out a game cart. Emulation is just the most public facing thing we see in Nintendo's war on the consumer. But make no mistake, Nintendo will come for the rest of it when they can. The moment they think they can make you rent games and hardware they will do it. And bunches of Nostalgia-addled people in my generation will probably defend them too.
@@LainK1978Nintendo's Litigation Legion is just _quaking_ in their booties right now... 🤣 I refuse to believe RGT is this dumb. He's just gaming for engagement lol
Yeah, from what I hear, Yuzu was really batting the hornet's nest. Even provided a version specifically to run Tears of the Kingdom before release and behind a Patreon paywall. Donations are one thing but, when you force people to donate to get a better version, that kinda sounds like a premium product. If you notice, Nintendo took Dolphin off Steam but they never tried to sue them, because the makers of Dolphin didn't engage in that kind of thing.
3:20 - But it shouldn't be illegal if Sony v Bleem and Sony v Connectix is to be believed. It should be 100% legal for someone to reverse engineer a switch and sell an emulator. I understand that is what made it easier for Nintendo to go after them, but I think it's more that the commercial transactions made a paper trail to follow and let them know there was money to take, not that their case had more merit. If the FTC was worth a damn they would open up an anti-trust investigation into Nintendo for the Yuzu lawsuit. It probably won't since, as we saw there was likely other shady things going on, but in principle the sale itself should not be an issue. We don't get upset about the Analog for selling new consoles, do we? You're right though, these are smart decisions on their part. But I'd say it's because, and this is likely what the lawyer told them, even if what they are doing is legal, it's better to be a ghost you can't even find to send a legal suit to than to spend millions of dollars and years of your life on legal fees winning your case.
if the code used is clean-roomed and not containing anything from nintendo and they are not telling people how to obtain said key's and bypass encryption and hacking/modding a console then legally they have no stand.
@@Richiefreshhh switch doesn’t need emulation. It’s physical. Meanwhile the 100% digital consoles have exactly 0% emulation. So don’t cry and blame Nintendo when they abandon physical media like the others. Pirates did it, so cope. You’ve destroyed ownership with your theft
One problem with Suyu is that it's a fork of Yuzu, which the Yuzu team gave the rights to Nintendo. Yuzu was GPL licensed, so when they legally handed it over to Nintendo and made Nintendo the copyright holder, they _can_ re-license the code and sue anyone using the same code. I'm not a lawyer or legal expert so I don't know how this would affect forks, but it _does_ give Nintendo some say in the matter and depending on the court could definitely decimate Suyu.
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Afaik they can relicense it moving forward, but not backwards
I believe they are working in changing things up for the new suyu build . They said it will appear in the near future so to continue using yuzu early access. Anyways the new suyu build will not require keys or firmware but you will have to decrypt the nsp xci file .
They can't do it because suyu use base code with gpl licence so even Nintendo change licence they can't control old gpl licence code because it's open source and rules
To be fair I'd estimate over 80%-90% of emulation with switch titles are being pirated...the hassle of pulling keys, hacking your switch, and dumping a title you've paid for is a lot...I'm all for legacy emulation but not for current generation consoles
All Nintendo have to do is make a more powerful console. Too pricey? Then make two version. They even have resale value. Why do you think nobody talk about PS5-Xbox-Steam emulator? Maybe they are too dependent on their proprietary game engine in which is great for game optimization for their underpowered console but bad at using the latest video game graphic innovation. Maybe it's all about planned obsolescence. Who knows?
I wouldn’t be pirating Nintendo games if they released them on steam or actually made competent hardware to play games in 4K120 with ray tracing I don’t care about portability of the switch, I just want power Im part of the PCMR I own a PS5 which gets 4K 60-120 depending on the game
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Nintendo is not pissed off at Suyu. They knew the emulator is open source an do would continue. Their goal was to stop this yuzu team fromm aking moneyu, and allegedly stop them from HELPING people find roms/keys/ how to decrypt all the w while profiting off it.
Emulators require multiple times of processing power to accurately emulate a system. If Nintendo created a more powerful system, emulation would be behind the current generation. The more powerful the hardware, the harder it is to emulate.
At this point, I think Nintendo believes that using encryption keys, even if self-extracted, is illegal. And since emulators promote that, activity, emulation as is currently stands cannot be done legally. I think the argument is stupid, but I see Nintendo doing it.
Just because N THINKS something, does not make it true. They can't just magically change the laws. Basically, they use bullying tactics to impose their will. But IF it actually ever went to court and someone had the money to fight back, N WOULD lose.
As for acquisition of roms, product keys etc. making sure they will not provide them and not advocating piracy is basically what all old emulators do. That's how sites like CoolRoms got sued and not snes9x emulator, not jnes or other nes/snes emulators. the platform itself is 100% legal to exist as long as it is for preservation purposes.Also, the irony of covering an emulator called SuYu when that's what RGT's gonna do to the ghetto garage for his damages lol.
I didn't support Yuzu because they let open everybody can using their Yuzu to pirating Switch games. That's why I likes Suyu if true they didn't give anyone the ability to pirate Switch game. This is true emulation for preservation ❤
I’m just gonna say it now. Messing with Nintendo is bad for all of us. It may not happen today or tomorrow but I guarantee this is not going to end well, and us Nintendo fans will be the ones that pay the price for it. I will say, Nintendo was mad about them providing the keys, losing them money. Which from a business perspective any of us would be mad if someone was taking money from our hands that we worked hard on.
Emulation is like illegally streaming music/tv/movies. Same with the digital info-product space, online courses, etc. - 99% of the people putting any effort into pirating them were NEVER going to spend real money on them in the first place. Trust me - I've been in the online marketing space for close 20 years and see it play out across almost all types of media (readable, audio, video), all types of content (books, CDs, movies, courses, games, instructionals), & it countless industries. You didn't "lose" anything beacuse they were never gonna buy. If anything, in some pirate / blackhat communities, the *reason* they pirate is because there are so many creators, developers, etc charging for absolute crap. They'll pirate it, and if it's good, THEN go actually buy it to support the seller. Happens more than you'd think.
My opinion on piracy, publishers should have to make exact version of the game available (excluding graphical enhancements, HD, 4K, etc.) or they have no right to take down that version of the game from any website. If a game is unavailable for more than a year, the publisher loses all rights to that version.
I love emulation because I don’t have to put a disc to play a game or a cartridge it makes it very easy because I have tons of games from every system, but having it all on one device simple.
You won't have to do that on patched&unmodded Switches now anyway with the MIG cartridge emulation (device); at least for games that aren't digital-only. Nintendo's response will be interesting… hopefully it further persuades them to release their next console (Switch Ⅱ?).
That’s actually true if you did get work done and they reset your ECU you have to run the car some so get it can collect data in order for it to pass emissions. They should’ve told you that.
The problem I have is that dumping your own ROMs and BIOS files etc from a real console/physical game often needs specialized hardware that average people like me simply can't get 😭
I think in regards to suyu/yuzu emulation has a place in reserving and extending an old games life. In case you want to play it again, some old games are expensive on eBay and things. Not in stock at GameStop, no real way to play them. In that case it's fine in my eyes to be able to emulate the game, especially if you have bought it before have no guilt or shame. The perks of having a PC to do that is great, though you may find yourself looking for a more authentic experience on a CRT television or on original hardware with an HDMI upgrade. However you want to play. Put yourself in Nintendo's shoes, you don't want anyone making money off your games on a bootleg emulator essentially.
I didn't support Yuzu because they let open everybody can using their Yuzu to pirating Switch games. That's why I likes Suyu if true they didn't give anyone the ability to pirate Switch game. This is true emulation for preservation ❤
@@Hazemann isn't true preservation the ability to play the games in the first place? If a person can't do it in a convenient and easy way then there's no point in preserving it because it'll effectively be lost media in a technical sense. that's like saying how we should have a video tape of godfather in a Museum but don't watch it because "it'll break & history will be lost" even though you could rip a copy and then preserve it in a better & less difficult way.
Suyu is a drop in replacement for Yuzu so if you already know how to rip everything from your switch you good to go and just copy your old Yuzu folder to the new Suyu one and all your saves and configs should be there. can't say really where to get builds for windows but its in the Arch Linux AUR and Chaotic AUR repo on Arch
I heard a game developer once say that piracy isn't about people not wanting to buy your game, it's about people not being ABLE to buy your game. The company he was working for had a HUGE piracy problem in Brazil. Once they localised their prices over there and made them afordable for brazilian people, their piracy problem dropped by a huge margin. Nintendo games are more expensive than AAA games on steam O_O and they rarely get on sale.
See the problem with not doing a patreon or having donations for Suyu is the simple fact that now Nintendo knows that all they have to do is send the C&D regardless of whether it is legitimate because they know Suyu has zero money to fight it. Nintendo had to think about it with Yuzu before deciding it was worth it because everybody knew Yuzu DID have money. Regardless of everything else, it is a mistake to not have a patreon.
"Suyu" is what you should have told those guys at the garage! Seriously though emissions tests are a racket, I'm so glad they finally got rid of them where I live.
@@Nin10dough_player829 no, they didnt make it themselves, they forked the last build of Yuzu then renamed all the parts that mentioned Yuzu. Although there is an effort to continue development by asking developers to get involved. That is exactly how source code actually works 🤷♂️ people do that a lot. Whether Nintendo will shut them down is another matter, but thanks for trying to discredit me 🤪
So if there is an tree... that i cant reach... but im privided an seed that i can plant, and it only can give me the fruits.... makes that me an thief?
The fire emblem game on nes. I believe it was put on japan's nso, but for america, instead of putting it on the same service, they sold it as a separate purchasable game for a limited time.
Ryujinx is the best emulator yuzu always has sucked. Retro game corps guy is racist he said he doesn't support ryujinx because there Brazilian his exact words he said.
Hopefully one day they will learn that the only way to end piracy isn't attacking people but rather get them to lay it down on there own by giving them a reason too.
Guys get Ryujinx now for running your backups. Best to set it up right now just in case. It usually runs MUCH more efficient than Yuzu anyways. It's not hard to set up and works very well.
@@eveningclicks7767 I don't imply that. It's great to have a superior option to play games like Zelda in higher fidelity on an Emulator when you already own it.
I know people that own a Switch and buy games legally but they also used emulation to play games like Zelda upscaled so it looks nice on a big TV, but I will admit even some of them just used a pirated version rather than dumping there own games as whats the point in dumping your when someone's already saved you the hassle .
Look, emulation is ok, but only on consoles that aren’t in development anymore. If you’re using an emulator for GBA or PS3 then yeah that makes sense. But when you’re using a switch emulator, like really? You can buy the games because they are still being produced on switch. This is where I think Nintendo has both a legal and ethical right to shut down emulators
Suyu is a name with the same energy as Jihaxus. Course the Marvel Transformers comics did wind up getting axed and it didn't help that G2 was a dumpster fire.
@@Nin10dough_player829 It's actually not. People that like Nintendo won't use Emulation, Emulation is worse in most respects than the actual console. And smart people that wouldn't waste their money on a trash system like the Switch, wouldn't do so regardless of Emulation..
@@ZenKrio Actually, you're wrong. I like Nintendo and I love emulation. I'd rather play my Nintendo Game Boy games on an emulation handheld such as Anbernic than carry around 10 cartridges with me and my Nintendo Game Boy system itself. Plus in 20 years, your emulator and roms will be worth exactly what you paid for them: nothing. Meanwhile, the person who bought physical media and real hardware will be making bank.
Yuzu was too high-key for my old school sensibilities ... reminds me of bad actor types. In the end they took a stupid loss, like we knew they would. You gotta be rigged, or stupid...come on now. They felt like a leave it to beaver confession every time. "We're game preservationists lol" stfu... give me a break. I think I like suyus style much better. Let's preserve Emulation of dead systems, then game at your discretion. We know a narc has to tell everyone because they don't care ruining things for others, but your stance will be illegitimate in the emulation community. As it used to be. Noone develops an emulator because they want you to hurt nintendos bottom line, except maybe yuzu who stood to gain from it. They played a game of wills with the big N and lost. I refuse to be punished for their mistakes.
I would love to say that i have not given Nintendo thousands of dollars through out my life but that would be lying!! I have dropped money on Nintendo consoles and games like crazy and the Pokemon games!! Im at peace!!
I love emulators and I still buy my games. I just like playing them on PC in 4k at 60fps with Raytracing. Yuzu messed up, which is a shame since it was great. They should be a lasting lesson on what not to do 😁
I have a Switch with Hetake/Atmosphere on it (don't tell nintendo). I have a 256gb SD card in there but I've decided I want to replace it with a 1tb. Is there a way to copy my save files off the 256gb and reload them onto the 1tb? I can't find any folders on the root menu, I was hoping that there would be something along the lines of a 'savedata' folder that I could just drag and drop onto the 1tb?
@@Nin10dough_player829 I think you don't understand what I meant by that. Yuzu was Open Source. Once something like this gets uploaded somewhere, it's never gonna get away. There will always be antoher emulator that picks up where the previous one left off. Just like Suyu does with Yuzu's source code. No matter how hard Nintendo tries, the internet will win in the end. The source code is here to stay. Also, there's a reason why Nintendo only went after Yuzu and not Ryujinx. Yuzu made money off of their work with Patreon, provided title and product keys and gave detailed discriptions on how to do illegal stuff. By avoiding these things, Suyu has nothing to fear.
@@DerNeik no I’m talking about how Sony Nintendo and Microsoft are trying to get emulation laws passed there for anyone who doesn’t have the original or actual rights to the game therefore cannot make emulation
@@Nin10dough_player829 Do you mean people who create emulators or people who use emulators to play games? Regardless, both options don't make any sense, I don't know where you read that. Creating an emulator by reverse-engineering is protected under law. So unless the people who create emulators make a mistake like Yuzu did, Nintendo can't stop that. The second option doesn't make any sense either because Nintendo themselves uses emulators for things such as Mario 3D All Stars. So all people playing those games would be criminals then bc they don't own the rights to the games?
@@DerNeik no it’s to the people making the emulator if you make a emulator and you don’t own the rights to the game and you make it for other people to use that would be considered illegal and I won’t be protected for long
If Suyu ever gets taken down, I hope the next iteration will be named Sumii
Or "Fuyu" lol
Or muyu, xuyu, wuzu 😅
FukYu xD like in Austin Powers
@@cor.tenebrarumlmaooo you must be a 80s/90s baby
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I feel like when a company stops selling a console the games should be open for emulation because they are unpurchasable. And anything over 20 years old should be considered preserving history.
Whoever came up with the name Suyu deserves some kind of award. Brilliant name.
Reminds me of Apple naming one of their system alert sounds “Sosumi” because of their absurdly long legal battle over trademarks with Apple Corps (the record company set up by the Beatles). 25 years, that silliness lasted.
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporatedbeat me to it!
The reward will be a numtimilliin lawsuit
@@mauriciosalazar2289 a lawsuit from numpties, eh?
😂
Apparently Nintendo stirred the bees nest with the hydra that is the internet😂
*Hydra noises*
The disconnect is that gamers think that Nintendo doesn’t understand that more will pop up. They do understand it. But Nintendo has more money to bankrupt a company in court if they step out of line
Yet Nintendo can't stop winning. 💀 Both sales and lawsuit.
@@paulaclark2101that has nothing to do with it. The only reason Nintendo was able to deal a blow to Yuzu was because the developers got greedy and tried to profit off the emulation which gave Nintendos lawyers the ammunition to eliminate them.
Yes, Nintendo has money coming out the wazu but even that can’t stop a developer with enough sense to operate in a way that Nintendo can’t interfere with.
Nintendo was just biding their time and waiting for Yuzu/Citra to slip which they did. Hence why Ryujinx is still operating
@QuantumChrist I doubt their hardware & software sales are doing all that well anymore. It's good for a console going on 8 years, but it's a far cry from where they used to be.
No major 1st party releases left, 3rd party support has dried up outside of indies & heavily compromised AA ports, and only remasters & low effort games left in the tank.
They've waited so long for Switch 2, they risk another GC/Wii U failure with 3rd parties being unable to support them.
Note, it is legal to commercially sell an emulator. Nintendo can't sue for that specfic reason
Emulation is inevitable. No matter how much Nintendo tries to get rid of them, someone else will come over to take its place. Nintendo needs to stop being stubborn and put their games on PC as well, that way less people will pirate their games. They also need to make a powerful console with the Switch 2 or whatever they call it, otherwise its gonna be another easy emulator in a couple of years.
exactly, emulation is going nowhere.
0:40 - Nintendo doesn't hate emulators themselves. They hate private ownership and customer's doing what they want with what they purchased or using their products how they like. It's why they also go after any modification to consoles or games and have a very restrictive license agreement you can look up which narrowly defines how you can use your software. It also bans things like renting out a game cart.
Emulation is just the most public facing thing we see in Nintendo's war on the consumer. But make no mistake, Nintendo will come for the rest of it when they can. The moment they think they can make you rent games and hardware they will do it. And bunches of Nostalgia-addled people in my generation will probably defend them too.
Sue you, a very good name 😂😂😂
Three years of Law School? It's over for Nintendo
Yeah, I mean the guy they went to may even have finished law school.
@@LainK1978Nintendo's Litigation Legion is just _quaking_ in their booties right now... 🤣
I refuse to believe RGT is this dumb. He's just gaming for engagement lol
And got his degree from America Samoa
No...Got his/her degree from trump university😂
@@lobonegro1567what?
Yeah, from what I hear, Yuzu was really batting the hornet's nest. Even provided a version specifically to run Tears of the Kingdom before release and behind a Patreon paywall. Donations are one thing but, when you force people to donate to get a better version, that kinda sounds like a premium product. If you notice, Nintendo took Dolphin off Steam but they never tried to sue them, because the makers of Dolphin didn't engage in that kind of thing.
3:20 - But it shouldn't be illegal if Sony v Bleem and Sony v Connectix is to be believed. It should be 100% legal for someone to reverse engineer a switch and sell an emulator. I understand that is what made it easier for Nintendo to go after them, but I think it's more that the commercial transactions made a paper trail to follow and let them know there was money to take, not that their case had more merit.
If the FTC was worth a damn they would open up an anti-trust investigation into Nintendo for the Yuzu lawsuit. It probably won't since, as we saw there was likely other shady things going on, but in principle the sale itself should not be an issue. We don't get upset about the Analog for selling new consoles, do we?
You're right though, these are smart decisions on their part. But I'd say it's because, and this is likely what the lawyer told them, even if what they are doing is legal, it's better to be a ghost you can't even find to send a legal suit to than to spend millions of dollars and years of your life on legal fees winning your case.
if the code used is clean-roomed and not containing anything from nintendo and they are not telling people how to obtain said key's and bypass encryption and hacking/modding a console then legally they have no stand.
Suyu sounds like a clapback at Nintendo for suing Yuzu.... oh wait. 😮
Yuzu who admitted to piracy
@@drowningin You clearly want to hold emuation back and it will never work.
Cope harder
@@Richiefreshhh switch doesn’t need emulation. It’s physical. Meanwhile the 100% digital consoles have exactly 0% emulation. So don’t cry and blame Nintendo when they abandon physical media like the others. Pirates did it, so cope. You’ve destroyed ownership with your theft
@@TheRealAdachi that word doesn’t mean what you think it does
@@drowningin basically at gunpoint, but technically yeah
If Sweet Baby blocked you then your doing something right.
Nintendo: SUE YOU?
suyu: tru tru
This is even better than when they made 3DS homebrew use FBI to load CIA files PepeLaugh
3:30 actually it's not illegal to make money off emulation, connectix proved that.
One problem with Suyu is that it's a fork of Yuzu, which the Yuzu team gave the rights to Nintendo.
Yuzu was GPL licensed, so when they legally handed it over to Nintendo and made Nintendo the copyright holder, they _can_ re-license the code and sue anyone using the same code.
I'm not a lawyer or legal expert so I don't know how this would affect forks, but it _does_ give Nintendo some say in the matter and depending on the court could definitely decimate Suyu.
Afaik they can relicense it moving forward, but not backwards
@@PHARAOH-ZODIACthen they may was well have started from nothing.
I believe they are working in changing things up for the new suyu build . They said it will appear in the near future so to continue using yuzu early access. Anyways the new suyu build will not require keys or firmware but you will have to decrypt the nsp xci file .
They can't do it because suyu use base code with gpl licence so even Nintendo change licence they can't control old gpl licence code because it's open source and rules
To be fair I'd estimate over 80%-90% of emulation with switch titles are being pirated...the hassle of pulling keys, hacking your switch, and dumping a title you've paid for is a lot...I'm all for legacy emulation but not for current generation consoles
There's a huge difference between "has NIntendo PISSED" and "may piss off Nintendo." Stop it with the clickbait titles.
Why stop. When you took the bait 🤣
@@BenCampbell-n1g Once, not going to watch anything else from this channel again, soooo.
All Nintendo have to do is make a more powerful console. Too pricey? Then make two version. They even have resale value. Why do you think nobody talk about PS5-Xbox-Steam emulator? Maybe they are too dependent on their proprietary game engine in which is great for game optimization for their underpowered console but bad at using the latest video game graphic innovation. Maybe it's all about planned obsolescence. Who knows?
Nintendo can use their newly-acquired 2.4 million dollars to dry their tears.
If SUYU goes down the next one should be FUYU
I wouldn’t be pirating Nintendo games if they released them on steam or actually made competent hardware to play games in 4K120 with ray tracing
I don’t care about portability of the switch, I just want power
Im part of the PCMR
I own a PS5 which gets 4K 60-120 depending on the game
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Nintendo is not pissed off at Suyu. They knew the emulator is open source an do would continue. Their goal was to stop this yuzu team fromm aking moneyu, and allegedly stop them from HELPING people find roms/keys/ how to decrypt all the w while profiting off it.
its literally just a fork of yuzu, but i dont think they can sue them.
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Emulators require multiple times of processing power to accurately emulate a system. If Nintendo created a more powerful system, emulation would be behind the current generation. The more powerful the hardware, the harder it is to emulate.
When those companies will learn? You cannot kill open source.
At this point, I think Nintendo believes that using encryption keys, even if self-extracted, is illegal. And since emulators promote that, activity, emulation as is currently stands cannot be done legally. I think the argument is stupid, but I see Nintendo doing it.
Just because N THINKS something, does not make it true. They can't just magically change the laws. Basically, they use bullying tactics to impose their will. But IF it actually ever went to court and someone had the money to fight back, N WOULD lose.
As for acquisition of roms, product keys etc. making sure they will not provide them and not advocating piracy is basically what all old emulators do. That's how sites like CoolRoms got sued and not snes9x emulator, not jnes or other nes/snes emulators. the platform itself is 100% legal to exist as long as it is for preservation purposes.Also, the irony of covering an emulator called SuYu when that's what RGT's gonna do to the ghetto garage for his damages lol.
I didn't support Yuzu because they let open everybody can using their Yuzu to pirating Switch games. That's why I likes Suyu if true they didn't give anyone the ability to pirate Switch game. This is true emulation for preservation ❤
>inb4 Suyu gets hit with a trademark lawsuit for their logo copying the Switch controller aesthetic
I’m just gonna say it now. Messing with Nintendo is bad for all of us.
It may not happen today or tomorrow but I guarantee this is not going to end well, and us Nintendo fans will be the ones that pay the price for it.
I will say, Nintendo was mad about them providing the keys, losing them money. Which from a business perspective any of us would be mad if someone was taking money from our hands that we worked hard on.
Emulation is like illegally streaming music/tv/movies. Same with the digital info-product space, online courses, etc. - 99% of the people putting any effort into pirating them were NEVER going to spend real money on them in the first place.
Trust me - I've been in the online marketing space for close 20 years and see it play out across almost all types of media (readable, audio, video), all types of content (books, CDs, movies, courses, games, instructionals), & it countless industries. You didn't "lose" anything beacuse they were never gonna buy.
If anything, in some pirate / blackhat communities, the *reason* they pirate is because there are so many creators, developers, etc charging for absolute crap. They'll pirate it, and if it's good, THEN go actually buy it to support the seller. Happens more than you'd think.
My opinion on piracy, publishers should have to make exact version of the game available (excluding graphical enhancements, HD, 4K, etc.) or they have no right to take down that version of the game from any website. If a game is unavailable for more than a year, the publisher loses all rights to that version.
Copyrights hold regardless of version.
Sue You? 🤣 How appropriate!
The beard's coming along nicely
I love emulation because I don’t have to put a disc to play a game or a cartridge it makes it very easy because I have tons of games from every system, but having it all on one device simple.
You won't have to do that on patched&unmodded Switches now anyway with the MIG cartridge emulation (device); at least for games that aren't digital-only. Nintendo's response will be interesting…
hopefully it further persuades them to release their next console (Switch Ⅱ?).
That’s actually true if you did get work done and they reset your ECU you have to run the car some so get it can collect data in order for it to pass emissions. They should’ve told you that.
The problem I have is that dumping your own ROMs and BIOS files etc from a real console/physical game often needs specialized hardware that average people like me simply can't get 😭
That name suyu is gold 😂😂😂
I think in regards to suyu/yuzu emulation has a place in reserving and extending an old games life. In case you want to play it again, some old games are expensive on eBay and things. Not in stock at GameStop, no real way to play them. In that case it's fine in my eyes to be able to emulate the game, especially if you have bought it before have no guilt or shame. The perks of having a PC to do that is great, though you may find yourself looking for a more authentic experience on a CRT television or on original hardware with an HDMI upgrade. However you want to play. Put yourself in Nintendo's shoes, you don't want anyone making money off your games on a bootleg emulator essentially.
Suyu to Nintendo: "Screw Yu"
Why not do like Citra, which required ROMs to be decrypted prior to runtime?
There’s too many emulators Nintendo won’t be able to keep up
...but then what?
I didn't support Yuzu because they let open everybody can using their Yuzu to pirating Switch games. That's why I likes Suyu if true they didn't give anyone the ability to pirate Switch game. This is true emulation for preservation ❤
@@Hazemann isn't true preservation the ability to play the games in the first place? If a person can't do it in a convenient and easy way then there's no point in preserving it because it'll effectively be lost media in a technical sense.
that's like saying how we should have a video tape of godfather in a Museum but don't watch it because "it'll break & history will be lost" even though you could rip a copy and then preserve it in a better & less difficult way.
@mjdf122 And that makes me happy! 🎉
You know that’s not a good thing right?
Love what you do @RGT85 but at least your car doesn't shuts off / dies while driving on the street
Hate it for you and your car situation. But you're doing a great job entertaining us here on TH-cam.
I’m curious what is your daily driver anyways?
Suyu is a drop in replacement for Yuzu so if you already know how to rip everything from your switch you good to go and just copy your old Yuzu folder to the new Suyu one and all your saves and configs should be there. can't say really where to get builds for windows but its in the Arch Linux AUR and Chaotic AUR repo on Arch
I know the pain when you scratch your ride on your whip! 😡 Great vids, always been a fan! 🤙🏾
Don't go to shady places for cars, housing, or health
I heard a game developer once say that piracy isn't about people not wanting to buy your game, it's about people not being ABLE to buy your game. The company he was working for had a HUGE piracy problem in Brazil. Once they localised their prices over there and made them afordable for brazilian people, their piracy problem dropped by a huge margin. Nintendo games are more expensive than AAA games on steam O_O and they rarely get on sale.
Bro I only just noticed you look like eddie Kingston from aew xD
See the problem with not doing a patreon or having donations for Suyu is the simple fact that now Nintendo knows that all they have to do is send the C&D regardless of whether it is legitimate because they know Suyu has zero money to fight it. Nintendo had to think about it with Yuzu before deciding it was worth it because everybody knew Yuzu DID have money. Regardless of everything else, it is a mistake to not have a patreon.
The real tragedy here is Citra. We don't need a switch emulator quite yet.
I can play citra on mah Quest 2
Speak for yourself buddy.
It's for the people who still live in their moms basement and can't get a girl or laid
@@toututu2993 yuzu dropped their support for Citra. I dunno if just having it will be a forever thing
@@lunarknight9162 then that means you can't afford new games?
Switch Emulation is really just piracy IMO. I support emulation until you start talking about emulating things still on the market place.
That’s because the Switch is a current console. If the Switch 2 was out however then it’s fine.
I really wanna play Pokemon in my Android 😢😢 i live in the Caribbean 50usd is $300 here man 😢😢 emulator brings hope
"Suyu" is what you should have told those guys at the garage! Seriously though emissions tests are a racket, I'm so glad they finally got rid of them where I live.
Can't touch me, duh nununun nunun nununununu can't touch me!
Just stop!
Collaborate and listen! Yuzu is back with a brand new edition! 🙃
You know it is made off the back of the Yuzu sourcecode right?
🏴☠️
It’s in fact not actually they made it themselves also that’s not how source code works😂😂😂
@@Nin10dough_player829they made it themselves using source code from Yuzu. And Nintendo is the sole owner of Yuzu copyrights.
@@Nin10dough_player829 no, they didnt make it themselves, they forked the last build of Yuzu then renamed all the parts that mentioned Yuzu.
Although there is an effort to continue development by asking developers to get involved.
That is exactly how source code actually works 🤷♂️ people do that a lot.
Whether Nintendo will shut them down is another matter, but thanks for trying to discredit me 🤪
I’m soo glad my kids grew out of Nintendo
Dang Boi!.. my boy looks like me now on these heart and tyriod meds ... keep up wit yourself my man.. health is hard sometimes..but u not alone
So if there is an tree... that i cant reach... but im privided an seed that i can plant, and it only can give me the fruits.... makes that me an thief?
According to Monsanto, yes.
@@eveningclicks7767 imma look that up, thnx 4 the respons
What was the limited time Fire Emblem game RGT mentions around 8:59?
The fire emblem game on nes. I believe it was put on japan's nso, but for america, instead of putting it on the same service, they sold it as a separate purchasable game for a limited time.
Are you _ever_ in a good mood, though? I swear you’re the crankiest Nintendo TH-camr I’ve seen, NGT.
Ryujinx is the best emulator yuzu always has sucked. Retro game corps guy is racist he said he doesn't support ryujinx because there Brazilian his exact words he said.
Yes we have seen it!! Ryujinx is good emulator never had any issues if someone does there dumb and don't know how to emulate. 😂
Hopefully one day they will learn that the only way to end piracy isn't attacking people but rather get them to lay it down on there own by giving them a reason too.
Yeah you have to put your car through a cycle after it's had it's codes wiped. Otherwise you'll experience that issue.
Guys get Ryujinx now for running your backups. Best to set it up right now just in case.
It usually runs MUCH more efficient than Yuzu anyways. It's not hard to set up and works very well.
"For running your backups" Why do you lie about what these emulators are for?
Why do you act like people only like playing on one machine?
@@eveningclicks7767 I don't imply that. It's great to have a superior option to play games like Zelda in higher fidelity on an Emulator when you already own it.
@@jsb0714 Nintendo is a terrible company why protect them
I know people that own a Switch and buy games legally but they also used emulation to play games like Zelda upscaled so it looks nice on a big TV, but I will admit even some of them just used a pirated version rather than dumping there own games as whats the point in dumping your when someone's already saved you the hassle .
Nothing better than when we get a new video from our favorite Nintendo youtuber.
Bad luck with cars > not making over 6 figures on TH-cam
Look, emulation is ok, but only on consoles that aren’t in development anymore. If you’re using an emulator for GBA or PS3 then yeah that makes sense. But when you’re using a switch emulator, like really? You can buy the games because they are still being produced on switch. This is where I think Nintendo has both a legal and ethical right to shut down emulators
As a car guy rgt car stories are bangers keep them coming please also any other rgt content in general
"if you can even mix oil and water" you can with starch.
Emulator does what Nintendon’t
Suyu is a name with the same energy as Jihaxus. Course the Marvel Transformers comics did wind up getting axed and it didn't help that G2 was a dumpster fire.
Nintendo did said if you break their rules they can ban us. Nothing about suing. So we should be all good. Right?
Great video man. Sorry you had such a bad day.
So Shawn, how are cars working out for you bud? Good investment? 😊
If it's about preservation, then you're not emulating current consoles or games that are currently available on modern platforms.
RGT should open his own emulator if he want us to stop calling him a Nintendo youtuber.
I hope you are in a better place since your car incident mate. love your videos.Take care Bruv!
No one has Nintendo pissed. The gaming youtubers just suck at all things legal as well as making up BS clickbait titles for videos.
He looks like PaRappa the Rapper in the thumbnail! Haha
you can never kill emulation you are just going to drive it underground.
This title did not age well
Haven't Nintendo got bigger fish to fry?
Yes! Selling their console which is on the market WHICH THIS EMULATOR EMULATES
This emulator is a direct threat to the console their selling also what bigger fish they literally don’t have anything else
Well, making their next console not so close to the emulators that exist is an idea.
@@Nin10dough_player829 It's actually not. People that like Nintendo won't use Emulation, Emulation is worse in most respects than the actual console. And smart people that wouldn't waste their money on a trash system like the Switch, wouldn't do so regardless of Emulation..
@@ZenKrio Actually, you're wrong. I like Nintendo and I love emulation. I'd rather play my Nintendo Game Boy games on an emulation handheld such as Anbernic than carry around 10 cartridges with me and my Nintendo Game Boy system itself. Plus in 20 years, your emulator and roms will be worth exactly what you paid for them: nothing. Meanwhile, the person who bought physical media and real hardware will be making bank.
Yuzu was too high-key for my old school sensibilities ... reminds me of bad actor types. In the end they took a stupid loss, like we knew they would. You gotta be rigged, or stupid...come on now. They felt like a leave it to beaver confession every time. "We're game preservationists lol" stfu... give me a break. I think I like suyus style much better.
Let's preserve Emulation of dead systems, then game at your discretion.
We know a narc has to tell everyone because they don't care ruining things for others, but your stance will be illegitimate in the emulation community. As it used to be.
Noone develops an emulator because they want you to hurt nintendos bottom line, except maybe yuzu who stood to gain from it. They played a game of wills with the big N and lost. I refuse to be punished for their mistakes.
Very clever how they made their name for this emulator 😎💯and yea that sux to scratch up your car I would be pissed too 😅
I think that a genius idea for Nintendo would be to sell legit roms for the games
I would love to say that i have not given Nintendo thousands of dollars through out my life but that would be lying!! I have dropped money on Nintendo consoles and games like crazy and the Pokemon games!! Im at peace!!
I love emulators and I still buy my games. I just like playing them on PC in 4k at 60fps with Raytracing. Yuzu messed up, which is a shame since it was great. They should be a lasting lesson on what not to do 😁
Well enjoy it while it lasts it won’t be there for long
@Nin10dough_player829 that's why I tend to download things for future use 🤓
@@Valkron11 ok good for you?
@Nin10dough_player829 man, why are you downplaying this bra? it's f'n fantastic for me! 😄
@@Valkron11 for now
R-i-ight "preserving" current gen. Did yuzu really provide codes to switch? This sounds too reatrded.
Where's the part where Nintendo is pissed?
Suyu was taken down 😢
I have a Switch with Hetake/Atmosphere on it (don't tell nintendo). I have a 256gb SD card in there but I've decided I want to replace it with a 1tb. Is there a way to copy my save files off the 256gb and reload them onto the 1tb? I can't find any folders on the root menu, I was hoping that there would be something along the lines of a 'savedata' folder that I could just drag and drop onto the 1tb?
I wish that was me with my old switch but is unsoftmodsble because it's dec 2018
can't you just clone the 256 gb card to the 1 tb card?
@@babyjiren9676Hi no, the save files are annoyingly saved onto the switch console itself
What car do you drive?
That would piss me off about the car so much as well. Dang dude
Long live open source!
It won’t be for long so enjoy it while it last
@@Nin10dough_player829 I think you don't understand what I meant by that. Yuzu was Open Source. Once something like this gets uploaded somewhere, it's never gonna get away. There will always be antoher emulator that picks up where the previous one left off. Just like Suyu does with Yuzu's source code. No matter how hard Nintendo tries, the internet will win in the end. The source code is here to stay. Also, there's a reason why Nintendo only went after Yuzu and not Ryujinx. Yuzu made money off of their work with Patreon, provided title and product keys and gave detailed discriptions on how to do illegal stuff. By avoiding these things, Suyu has nothing to fear.
@@DerNeik no I’m talking about how Sony Nintendo and Microsoft are trying to get emulation laws passed there for anyone who doesn’t have the original or actual rights to the game therefore cannot make emulation
@@Nin10dough_player829 Do you mean people who create emulators or people who use emulators to play games? Regardless, both options don't make any sense, I don't know where you read that. Creating an emulator by reverse-engineering is protected under law. So unless the people who create emulators make a mistake like Yuzu did, Nintendo can't stop that. The second option doesn't make any sense either because Nintendo themselves uses emulators for things such as Mario 3D All Stars. So all people playing those games would be criminals then bc they don't own the rights to the games?
@@DerNeik no it’s to the people making the emulator if you make a emulator and you don’t own the rights to the game and you make it for other people to use that would be considered illegal and I won’t be protected for long