I truly feel that the term “coloured” is too vast as to asking, what is a coloured. That question will be the same as asking what colour is a rainbow. We as coloureds are a combination of two or more ethnic groups of which some of us do look white, black or asian because of this. You put a Cape, Durban and Jo’burg coloured in the same room and they will not automatically recognize each other’s race, until they begin to converse. And no we are not all from San, Khoi, Malay descendants. We are rich in culture for we belong to a diverse one.
Gods Klanof, so in other words you are saying the coloured race began to exist in South Africa post 1994? Prior to this there were Black, Whites and Indians etc. but no coloureds?
@@thabonyewe138 NO, but I can speak it as well as other African languages. There are coloureds that I know that are an offspring of a white/British person but grew up in the Kasi or rural areas who have the coloured look but don’t sound or relate with the coloured community, yet their own people call them coloured. For me personally it’s great being coloured not because of all the stereotypes that come with it, but by simply knowing who I am. I don’t have to play white, black or any other race for acceptance purposes. I mix and gel well with all races and yip I would be an idiot to be racist for I, my wife and my child are from various strains but ok’salayo, we are coloured.
@@lesleypayne2253 but you do understand that the term coloured also applies to black people too. It just depends what region you are located in. Race is a social construct. It's not real. It's made up. It's western ideology. It's all a mind game... divide and conquer. But you are AFRIKAN, do you not agree?
Coloured strongly exists. If we should say that we are south Africans, why then to this very day do you still have on many forms a 4 block fill in whereby you must indicate what race you are? Take this away and only then we can be called south Africans. Other than that, we remain as coloured people. In simple terms, remove BEE
Colouredness is defined by the unique historical experiences of slavery, genocide, and the process of epistemicide. It's about being hated by both Black tribalists and Yt Supremacists. It's about others thinking they can define who you are. It's about being forced to explain yourself to people who want to speak for you. It's about constantly having your culture stripped.
The people you've mentioned are biracial, not coloured. Those of us outside of CT are also genealogically of slave descent. The problem with this view however is you think we're a biological construct and not a cultural one. It's the colonial obsession with "purity". Don't tell me to read when I've curated a whole library of academia on my own heritage.
The term “coloured” came from apartheid because since we are mix-raced our people were either too dark to be with the whites or too light to be with black people. Therefore, since our people WEREN’T WHITE they were called coloured but racially treated as black. The term “coloured” is an umbrella term for people who are descended from the khoisan, the Cape Malay community, mixed children born from black, white, Malay parents etc
I'm not South African. But as a person who is fascinated by its history and rich diversity, Coloured people represent the country South Africa the most. Everyone calls it a rainbow nation. And Coloured people are birthed by the encounter of different worlds. It comes together with the history of South Africa itself. Maybe Zulu, Xhosa, Swati, Sotho and etc these people would have more identity as their ethnicity itself. Unless the europeans never settled in South Africa, they can still be Zulu and Xhosa. But Coloured people they could've only existed with the presence of South African history. Colonization of Netherlands and the UK, influx of Europeans and European culture, mixation of people. Coloured people itself represent South Africa.
I disagree. The fallacy is that colonial borders do not define any country in Africa. "South African" history begins long before any European arrived, and involved interaction of distinct groups of indegenous African peoples for thousands of years. The colonial era is the next epoch of "South African" history which is now over, and has its own significance too. i.e The current South Africa is a new epoch, with a very different purpose, values and destiny from colonial era South Africa. All epochs of South African history are are equally relevant in the creation of South Africa's unique history and ethnic foundations. The question becomes whether or not South Africa is an "African" country. 'Colored' people are just as "South African" as any 'black' South African. But the sticking point between blacks and Coloureds is regarding 'Africanity.' Do Coloureds have to neglect their European/Asian cultural and ancestral heritage to be fully culturally united with other Africans? Is 'anti-blackness' in coloured culture inherent, and a reflection of their none African heritage? South Africans will need to decide what place "Africanity" has in the new South Africa. Most Africans today identity with their ethnicity first before any nationality.
Not a well-spoken researcher, she struggles to speak. The foreign black Zimbabwean journalist took advantage of this poor little not efficient speaking student girl.
I'm coloured and i have dutch, british, german and indian roots possibly more i don't know about. Coloured people are like those all in one spices and usually they can be identified by their accent, the languages they speak and how they speak it. Coloured or kombuis afrikaans is an example of that. And if you're really not sure, you'll just get their vibe or they'll tell you.
Coloureds (Afrikaans: Kleurlinge or Bruinmense, lit. 'Brown people') are a multiracial ethnic group native to Southern Africa who have ancestry from more than one of the various populations inhabiting the region, including Khoisan, Bantu, European, Austronesian, South Asian, or East Asian. Because of the combination of ethnicities, different families and individuals within a family may have a variety of different physical features.
Why are people so obsessed with viewing the term coloured as being derogatory? There are hundreds, maybe even thousands of different black tribes and no one talks about how they are being boxed into the term black. I don't understand why everyone is so interested in defining who we are. Why are they so obsessed with how we identify? Why don't people ask what does it mean to be black? Or what does it mean to white? Why are you obsessing over what it means to be coloured? What is the definition of black? How do you define what white is?
I don't know... For me, you need to be able to identify as you see yourself... I see myself as coloured, eventhough I know, the majority of my genetics come from European Settlers, Because I identify with coloured "living" (take that as you wish)... I can't identify with a privilaged position in society... I can't idenify with coming from a different continent, or even province for that matter... I've struggled with identity my entire life, and it completely f#d me up, my sister... Like... There was even a point at which I was researching Latin-American countries just to be able to live harmoniously... Christ... Mohammed... King Hailie Selassie... It's such bullsh#t... Anyways... FYI... I've found my "LEKKA" in Booysen's... I wish you well... Please get a Honourary Doctorates(;D)
No one understands what being a coloured South African is like, unless they are themselves. 🇿🇦
Amen👏🏼
@Rami Sebit from someone who can't even formulate a sentence properly. You're so sad
@Rami. That comment is 💩
I doubt they also understand to be honest
South Africans know what a Coloured is. Knowing something and being able to define something is not the same thing.
I truly feel that the term “coloured” is too vast as to asking, what is a coloured. That question will be the same as asking what colour is a rainbow. We as coloureds are a combination of two or more ethnic groups of which some of us do look white, black or asian because of this. You put a Cape, Durban and Jo’burg coloured in the same room and they will not automatically recognize each other’s race, until they begin to converse. And no we are not all from San, Khoi, Malay descendants. We are rich in culture for we belong to a diverse one.
The best comment by far
Gods Klanof, so in other words you are saying the coloured race began to exist in South Africa post 1994? Prior to this there were Black, Whites and Indians etc. but no coloureds?
But you are AFRIKANs, right?
@@thabonyewe138 NO, but I can speak it as well as other African languages. There are coloureds that I know that are an offspring of a white/British person but grew up in the Kasi or rural areas who have the coloured look but don’t sound or relate with the coloured community, yet their own people call them coloured. For me personally it’s great being coloured not because of all the stereotypes that come with it, but by simply knowing who I am. I don’t have to play white, black or any other race for acceptance purposes. I mix and gel well with all races and yip I would be an idiot to be racist for I, my wife and my child are from various strains but ok’salayo, we are coloured.
@@lesleypayne2253 but you do understand that the term coloured also applies to black people too. It just depends what region you are located in. Race is a social construct. It's not real. It's made up. It's western ideology. It's all a mind game... divide and conquer. But you are AFRIKAN, do you not agree?
Coloured strongly exists. If we should say that we are south Africans, why then to this very day do you still have on many forms a 4 block fill in whereby you must indicate what race you are? Take this away and only then we can be called south Africans. Other than that, we remain as coloured people. In simple terms, remove BEE
Colouredness is defined by the unique historical experiences of slavery, genocide, and the process of epistemicide. It's about being hated by both Black tribalists and Yt Supremacists. It's about others thinking they can define who you are. It's about being forced to explain yourself to people who want to speak for you. It's about constantly having your culture stripped.
Exactly, I hate when people of other races try to define us and what we should identify as. Our voices are never heard.
The people you've mentioned are biracial, not coloured. Those of us outside of CT are also genealogically of slave descent. The problem with this view however is you think we're a biological construct and not a cultural one. It's the colonial obsession with "purity". Don't tell me to read when I've curated a whole library of academia on my own heritage.
While South Africa has a rainbow nation....Coloureds have rainbow DNA. Their DNA holds an archive of a 400 year old South African history.
The term “coloured” came from apartheid because since we are mix-raced our people were either too dark to be with the whites or too light to be with black people. Therefore, since our people WEREN’T WHITE they were called coloured but racially treated as black. The term “coloured” is an umbrella term for people who are descended from the khoisan, the Cape Malay community, mixed children born from black, white, Malay parents etc
Black is musk..
We ALSO have light.....so "don't say too light be black"
Coloured excellence coloured pride
Aweh Mei broe
She is a very pretty woman
I'm not South African. But as a person who is fascinated by its history and rich diversity, Coloured people represent the country South Africa the most. Everyone calls it a rainbow nation. And Coloured people are birthed by the encounter of different worlds. It comes together with the history of South Africa itself. Maybe Zulu, Xhosa, Swati, Sotho and etc these people would have more identity as their ethnicity itself. Unless the europeans never settled in South Africa, they can still be Zulu and Xhosa. But Coloured people they could've only existed with the presence of South African history. Colonization of Netherlands and the UK, influx of Europeans and European culture, mixation of people. Coloured people itself represent South Africa.
I disagree. The fallacy is that colonial borders do not define any country in Africa. "South African" history begins long before any European arrived, and involved interaction of distinct groups of indegenous African peoples for thousands of years.
The colonial era is the next epoch of "South African" history which is now over, and has its own significance too. i.e
The current South Africa is a new epoch, with a very different purpose, values and destiny from colonial era South Africa.
All epochs of South African history are are equally relevant in the creation of South Africa's unique history and ethnic foundations.
The question becomes whether or not South Africa is an "African" country. 'Colored' people are just as "South African" as any 'black' South African. But the sticking point between blacks and Coloureds is regarding 'Africanity.' Do Coloureds have to neglect their European/Asian cultural and ancestral heritage to be fully culturally united with other Africans? Is 'anti-blackness' in coloured culture inherent, and a reflection of their none African heritage?
South Africans will need to decide what place "Africanity" has in the new South Africa. Most Africans today identity with their ethnicity first before any nationality.
In the Cape flats we coloured but Olympics we african
Not a well-spoken researcher, she struggles to speak. The foreign black Zimbabwean journalist took advantage of this poor little not efficient speaking student girl.
I'm coloured and i have dutch, british, german and indian roots possibly more i don't know about. Coloured people are like those all in one spices and usually they can be identified by their accent, the languages they speak and how they speak it. Coloured or kombuis afrikaans is an example of that. And if you're really not sure, you'll just get their vibe or they'll tell you.
The entire South Africa is 'Coloured' after they take a dna heritage test. LOL
Not a loaded question, but are you suggesting that black South Africans have white ancestry as well? Even if distant?
No. They might be mixed not Coloured. Theres a difference
Coloureds (Afrikaans: Kleurlinge or Bruinmense, lit. 'Brown people') are a multiracial ethnic group native to Southern Africa who have ancestry from more than one of the various populations inhabiting the region, including Khoisan, Bantu, European, Austronesian, South Asian, or East Asian. Because of the combination of ethnicities, different families and individuals within a family may have a variety of different physical features.
Why are people so obsessed with viewing the term coloured as being derogatory? There are hundreds, maybe even thousands of different black tribes and no one talks about how they are being boxed into the term black.
I don't understand why everyone is so interested in defining who we are. Why are they so obsessed with how we identify?
Why don't people ask what does it mean to be black? Or what does it mean to white? Why are you obsessing over what it means to be coloured?
What is the definition of black? How do you define what white is?
Free the Western Cape the majority race is colored in the province
Western Cape,just like the rest of South Africa, is owned by europeans. So don't act like "freeing" Western Cape is for the benefit of coloureds 😂
Yes please
To me its a race group not cultulture...
Are you serious...!?!?!?
It's both in my opinion
ronald wiley every race has a culture I agree
the term coloured came much for a political agenda . jt was all black. so-coloured people are Afrikans.
@Aluthando Bottoman those are terms given to you by your oppressor to divide and conquer .
the term coloured came much for a political agenda . jt was all black. so-coloured people are Afrikans.
Bro what's your name on social media? I like your mindset & would lovvvvveee to speak about these kind of topics with you,you feel me
I don't know...
For me, you need to be able to identify as you see yourself...
I see myself as coloured, eventhough I know, the majority of my genetics come from European Settlers,
Because I identify with coloured "living" (take that as you wish)...
I can't identify with a privilaged position in society...
I can't idenify with coming from a different continent, or even province for that matter...
I've struggled with identity my entire life, and it completely f#d me up, my sister...
Like...
There was even a point at which I was researching Latin-American countries just to be able to live harmoniously...
Christ...
Mohammed...
King Hailie Selassie...
It's such bullsh#t...
Anyways...
FYI...
I've found my "LEKKA" in Booysen's...
I wish you well...
Please get a Honourary Doctorates(;D)
stop buying into that apartheid forced terminology