About temperatures for soap making (CP & HP)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- Hi everyone, many of you have requested a video on the topic of soap making temperatures, so here it is! Thanks so much for your patience if you were waiting for this one, I'm slowly making my way through my list of videos 'to do'.
In this talk I discuss:
▪ Why I don't take the exact temperature of my oils and lye for many of my soap recipes.
▪ When it is important to use a thermometer (or otherwise gauge the temperature) in cold process soap making, including an explanation of 'False Trace'.
▪ An explanation and some tips about using the 'Heat Transfer Method' in cold process soap making.
▪ A simple approach that will work for most soap recipes if you aren't sure.
▪ How I gauge the temperatures in my soap recipes (high and low tech).
▪ My approach to temperatures for hot process soap making.
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I understand everything about temps now
You Elly are a born teacher. This video has clarified so many things which troubled me for months now. Thank you
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Thank you Elly again for clarifying temps and terms most soapmakers already know but the newbies are out on the cold watching these experienced soapers just using the immersion blender for a moment and the really focusing on the soap pour into the mold and decorating the loaf. Most newbies are looking for technical info missing on most soaping vlogs. Thank you for filling in the segment for all of us! Take care
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Now I know why the batter trace too fast when I make soap, the temperature is too low on both the oils an the lye. My recipe includes coconut oil, cocoa butter and shea butter. Where I live in Puerto Rico the lowest temperature is between 73°F and 75°F. Coconut oil here is always liquid. It gets a little cloudy if the temperature drops a couple of degrees because of the weather but it's always liquid. Excellent information. That's why I love your videos. Thanks!! 💕
Thank you for this, it's so helpful to understand when and why temperatures are important.
Hi, I’m so addicted to your channel! Oh my dear, thank you so much for explaining this issue with the temperatures! I was so puzzled by it until I found your video. Blessings from
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I started watching your videos last night and I’ve been hooked. Thank you for making this so easy to learn. You are an amazing teacher! I’m about to make my first soap!😆
Thank you Elly for explaining things in such a helpful way. Its nice to listen to an Australian person . I am in Melbourne and look forward to your posts. Stay safe and keep up the good work. 😊👍🙌
Oh thank you Andrea, I really appreciate that. Hope you're faring ok in the extended lockdown. Thanks for your encouragement :)
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Oh thank you, that's so nice of you. I appreciate your kind words, they are great for me too!
You are always great at teaching things Elly.
Thanks Amy :)
Thx you sooo much i am VERYYYYYY new to soap makin and I have been have false trace and real bad outcome but now that I have been watching u I have been learning alot
You are an awesome teacher Elly! I discovered couple days ago your videos and I love the way you clarify things. Thank you for your beautiful effort :)
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Thank you for this. I always thought that the temperatures affected the look of the bar, so i was nervous to soap with too warm temperatures. This was extremely helpful.
Hi Elly, I have officially adopted you as my soap teacher as well. I started watching you about a year ago and literally EVERYTHING I have learned about soap making (and am still learning), has come from you (and your guides for further researching). Thank you so much for all of the knowledge you give in your videos. I love the fact that you give further clarity and breakdowns for processes in soapmaking. It can become quite confusing at times but after watching your videos, the picture becomes co clear. I literally do all of my breakdowns just like you. I haven't reached making my own formulations as of yet but when I do, (was on a little hiatus but am back now). I will owe all of it to you. You're my soapmaking idol. Never leave us!
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This was so great to watch. Tha ks for the tips. I'm using a super high hard oil recipe ans tried soaping 90s - low 100s and it got so thick so fast. Had to come to TH-cam university to learn and I feel so much better trying again.
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Thank you Elaine :)
Thank you, Elly! Much needed information about temperatures that explains the confusion I've had after watching so many different soap maker's videos. Love your videos!!🤗
Thanks Leah! Glad it was helpful.
Yes, this is the best explanation I have seen, I dont use a lot of butters.. and have always soaped at room temp..
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Thank you for this informative video Elly. Your explanations are so easy to understand and your gentle manner would calm anyone on the verge of panic if they are new to soap making 🌸
Ah thanks Marion. I hope so :)
What a relief! I haven't made soap for a while and I thought I'd make some Olive oil soap in hurry. I didn't bother with temperatures but I put well dissolved lye and water in the cool olive oil and mixed with stick mixer for a pretty long time. It never turned white but I put it in the molds anyway. It was the consistency of pudding, I didn't even wear gloves but the soap didn't hurt my hands. God only knows what I'll find tomorrow morning! Wish me luck. I'll try to give an update on this batch after examining it in the morning. After what Elly has said about temperature, I can be hopeful. Haha!😂
The soap did harden up overnight. It's a yellow colour. Must be the kind of olive oil I used. It's much easier than I thought or how I made it in the past. Thank you for that timely info about temperature and reduced water info too. I used 220 mls to 1 litre of olive oil.
Thanks. I learnt something. I've been making soap for a while, but now I have a better understanding. Great vid.
Hi Elly! Thank you thank you for your wonderful videos, you are such an incredible teacher. I greatly appreciate the balance you hold between what matters and what’s not something to worry about - you’re brilliant and keeping it casual! Sending you heaps of gratitude from the other side of the globe.
Thanks so much Julianna!
Just last week I asked you doubts.
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Thank you Anu, you're welcome! I have been meaning to make this video for a while :)
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Great video and good information. I find if it's coconut and olive combo above 35 degrees for the oils and below 50 degrees for the lye is fine in winter. I just combine them with no issues, if it's a heavy butter / hard oil recipe I make sure all is between 40 - 45 C. You are absolutely right with heavy water discounting and heat transfer method doesn't work well if there is a high percentage of hard oils and butters. In winter I melt my coconut oil as the heat transfer method isn't as effective
Ah yes, I know you love the heat transfer method! Thanks for your input George.
Very good explanation, simple and to the point. I won't be obsessing about those pesky temperatures... thanks a lot
That's great! Thank you :)
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Made my 1st olive oil soap today. Your recipe. In the mold now wrapped in a wool sweater. The idea in your other video to speed saponification & encourage the gel phase were the goals of allowing this mostly olive oil (80%) & some coconut oil (20%) & 5 % castor & shea butter (I have no cocoa butter). I molded the mix 4 hrs ago & was surprised by just how hot it is. I put everything together at 125' - 130' Fahrenheit. You mentioned that this should allow unmolding in 48 hrs. Fingers crossed. Hope I didnt over preheat my oils. I gotta admit this is really interesting & kind of addictive. I think I have at least a new hobby & possibly more. So appreciate your videos. Thank you. All I had was extra virgin but I believe you said regular olive oil is perfectly fine.
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Thanks Brigida!
Such a great explanation. Always amazing videos. Tks agian Elly!
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I just found your channel! I love it! You are a great teacher. Looking forward to making soap for the first time!
Omg, such good information! Now, I got good understanding of this topic that I’ve always wondered & been confused about. Thanks so much! You’re awesome!
Glad it was helpful!
You make it sound so simple.. Thank you for posting the links, and making it so easy to follow.
Thanks Kathy, it really is that simple! I guess it can get complicated if you're using tricky recipes, but most things can be worked out with some trial and error. Thanks again, you're welcome, as always.
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Thanks, excellent explication about two processes...thanks you!!!
thank you this helped me alot as my soap batters have been turning rock hard lol ,thanku .you are awesome i use shea butter coconut , clays
alot in the recipies i have bben using .
New Subbie here. Thank you Elly. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and wisdom. You're my new Soap Godmother. I'm new to soap making and find your videos very helpful. ☺
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As always, very informative and helpful! Thanks!
Thank you so much for the explanation... I tried heat transfer because I was using Mango butter but the lye cooled a little too much and the soap came out slightly grainy. Now I know why! Thank you again!
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Good afternoon!! I love these masterclass videos!! Such practical and comprehensible information!!You make me feel more relaxed as regards my mistakes during soap making knowing that there is an explanation AND a solution!!! Have a nice week!!
Thanks so much Despina, I really appreciate your wonderful comments. I hope you're faring ok in Greece with the fires. Sending good wishes to you xx
@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking Thank you Elly!! we are trying hard, the two major fires are out after almost a week but two days ago there was a new one 20 kilometres west of Athens in a tourist's area with summer houses and small hotels and mild seas with small beaches so as it is August, a traditional vacation month there were a lot of people there who had to evacuate their houses and strong north winds and only today they managed to control the fire but another forest is gone!! The police have made 5 arrests so far for arson. Very bad summer this one covid-19, dry weather, high temperatures strong wind and fire. we rob our children of their future!!
Very insightful. Thank you!
Thank you Elle
This video is very usefull 🙂
Thank you Rohit, you are most welcome :)
Hello Elly that was informative. That explains why my soaps went wrong ....years ago .🤗 Thank you.💜
Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear that but glad this video has been helpful for you :)
Thank you for this GREAT information. It really helped me.
That's brilliant, thank you JoAnn :)
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All things being equal, two components will emulsify more easily the closer they are in temp.
Very informative. Thank you sooo much
Your videos are so helpful.
Thank you Elly❤
I love your clear info! Regarding temps... even with Shea butter and added sodium lactate, my vegetable oil only cp recipe doesn't have much longevity in the shower. Before I switch to tallow, I want to add stearic acid (cheaper than adding more shea). With a melting point of 160F this requires a minimum 130 F temp for saponification. How do I prevent high temp issues like volcanoes or white spots?
Very useful. Thank you
Love these info talks Elly, going to try my first lye batch EVER with freezing lye liquids in iceblocks, just like Elly! - very cool tip.
Yay! Have fun.
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Amazing video! Thank you!
I find this extremely informative thank you very much.
Thanks so much Nichola, I'm peased it's helpful for you :)
The queen of soapmaking videos delivers another fantastic guide for all us mere mortals to absorb and use when practising our craft.
Thanks Elly for the explanation, usually my soaps come out ok, for a beginner anyway, other than the one I made in July where the butter/oils mix and lye must have been too hot as it thickened up with the stick blender in a few minutes and i had to scoop the mix out with a spoon into the mould. It did feel very hot too.
I read on another soapmaking site that between 25 and 55 degrees C or 85-`130F is a good rule of thumb. However based on the experience just mentioned 55C is probably too hot.
As you say room or body temperature depending on the recipe is suitable working range.
My summer soaps are curing nicely and I've just began using them, they appear to have turned out ok.
That is the frustrating part, creating a recipe, making the soap and waiting until they cure to see if the recipe is a success or not, all part of the learning process though.
Oh Elly
Just love u , for the reason that u r like me I ALSO FEEL THE TEMP. OF BOTH THE BUCKETS 😀😀😀. No thermometer.
Yay! Glad to hear I am not the only one Joya. Thanks for commenting :)
So good. Thank you.
Hi, great lecon. Please a lesson on hardness of soap. In mu soap calc I manage to have hardness=40 or 41 is that garantee my soap to be hard so that it doesnt melt when i use it ? Thank you, i learn a lot from you.
Add more olive oil to the soap. Olive oil adds hardness to the final bars.
Also Elly had a recent video on the gel phase, if you make sure the soap fully gels your bars will melt slower.
But I also find that the bars and recipes I enjoy melt in the shower easily and I just put well draining soap dishes all over my house.
Hi, soap can be extremely hard but still be very soluble and melt fast in the shower. Hardness and solubility are very different things! Soap calc doesn't explain this to us very well. The best way to get hard and long lasting bars is to use lots of saturated fats and butters (hard oils), this page will help you www.ellyseveryday.com/choosing-oils-for-soap-making
@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking thanks a lot this helps me as I am a beginner in soap making.
Thank you I love your videos !
Hi Elly, that's very informative. I have a request. Please make a video explaining the fatty acid properties of a soap. Like stearic, palmitic, lauric, oleic... that shows in soap calc. How to understand the numbers and what range means what. Thanks again.
Hi Rashmi, thank you, yes that one is on my list too. In the mean time, this might help you www.ellyseveryday.com/choosing-oils-for-soap-making
Would love to see a video on how to handle all of the different milk options (oat, almond, goat, cow, rice) in a recipe to avoid scorching, freezing if possible & color change with sodium lactate. New at this but delving in. Milks are a bit of a question mark for me as far as how to best protect them & keeping a creamy light color or forgoing light color for a good gel phase. Also, wondering if powdered in the oils is better? Anyway, all interesting stuff. Thx as always.
Great question James, you can tell I don't use milks in my soap - only one video on that topic! I don't drink milk, perhaps that's why. Personally I would be using powdered if I could. That's the easiest method.
Thank you for this,my carrot soap erupted and broke my heart,i was in a hurry and my oil and lye was too hot.... fixed it wit the double boiler method ....but i have learned to do better
Ah yes, we all have those things happen! It's the best way to learn though. Glad you enjoyed the video :)
Hi Elly.. l have just gone on retirement and I'm so eager to start learning soap making but I don't have a clue..I started watching videos on TH-cam to help me through
Excellent video! You always explain things so well for all us beginners. Can you make an old fashioned lard soap video please? I appreciate all you do!
Thanks Belinda, I'm glad you liked it! I don't use any lard or tallow in my soaps, it's not that easy to get here and I'm a vegie person so I generally avoid animal fats in my soap. I'm sure there are some great recipes out there though if you have a search!
Thank you so much, Elly. I sure appreciate how much information you have shared over the months with us soap-making lovers
Thank you Miriam, I really appreciate that!
Thank you!!
Another super video. Many thanks! Tell me, is there a reason why Olive oil seems to always trump over Sunflower oil as being the main oil used in soap making?
It has a much better shelf life and makes better soap. This video takes a deep dive into that subject th-cam.com/video/V-uDPifp3n0/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, I'm loving your vids. What should someone do if they have poured a batter that had given a false trace and has separated? Is there a way to save it?
Yes! Check out my video on rebatching :)
Nice video
Thank you for taking the time to explain. You are so much help! I have a weird question.. when making hot processed soap is there a way I can turn it into cold process..Once I add the lye can I then pour it out and put it into soap forms and cover it to help it cure and turn into cold process soap? It is so hard to explain what I mean..I hope you know what I mean. Thank you so much for all your videos.. Loving them all!!!
I found a better way to explain .. when i make hot processed soap.. the oils are melted and I add the lye water.. can I then use that batter like a cold process batter instead of following through with the hot process procedure.
Yes, of course Penny! HP recipes are just cooked CP recipes. Only difference is I often use more water in HP recipes to account for evaporation.
@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking That did not work for me... I am making hot processed soap right now.. I melted all the oils in my crock pot and I just added the lye to the melted oils. I stick blended it well and now I am going to cover the crock pot and "let it cook" instead of "letting it cook" can I scoop it out and treat it like I am making cold process soap by add colors and fragrances and then put it into molds and treat it like I am making cold process soap?
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Elly my soap teacher your 25% superfat coconut oil soap receipe amazing. Im using that receipe soap to my own consume
That's wonderful Chanaka, thank you!
Tanks to help with a lot 🌸🌺
You're welcome 😊