We Switch GEAR for a Day / Canon R5 vs. Nikon D850
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2021
- In this weeks video, we go after the long asked question if gear really matters. We switch our cameras and Chris shoots with the Nikon D850 while Mike uses the Canon R5. While trying to figure out all the camera settings, we also run into a Western Diamondback Rattlesnake.
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This is a great premise for a TH-cam comparison video!
Thanks Mike!
A great down to earth video and an interesting comparison. I’m in love with my R5, it’s the biggest leap forward from Canon since the original 5D.
Such a fun video from you guys! Loved this one!
What a great idea for a Vlog. Well done guys!!
thanks dave! we had fun filming 😅
@@chris_perea Yes now all we have to do is to get Mike to get the Z7II and all will be good!
At last, my dream come true with you guys swapping gear. I remember making this comment last year and here it is. Mike, you are naughty boy. 'Toy'. The quirks showed through with both of you hunting for settings in both cameras. Ultimately, you both managed beautiful images and clearly would have done things a little differently with your own gear. For me the final image taken with any camera, shouts out when composed in such a way, that you just want to look at the image for ages. The cameras technology, combined with a great lens can only capture the moment to the best of its ability. Post production can improve where necessary, but it is always the photographers keen eye that wins the day. Well done for being brave enough to give it a go. Chris, I think it is safe to say that Mike was nearly swayed with swapping systems. He really liked some of the R5's offerings. Take care.
I love Chris's reply to "what did you think of the worlds greatest camera" 😂 Lets face it Mike, that beautiful composition was all R5 baby 😂😂😂 Great video guys👍😎👍
Haha the r5 didn’t even need me there, it just took the photo on its own 🤷🏻♂️
I loved the fact that Chris had to use Siri to find out how to use the self timer on the Nikon! That made me chuckle! Both cameras produce some great quality photos overall despite the Canon having some minor flaws with long exposure. This was a great one!
thank you scott!! i was very proud of myself😂
Love the video. As I was looking for a replacement camera I considered other brands. But I love the "flippy screen" of the Canon and the menus which I am used to. It would be hard to change brands. Unfortunately, I am disappointed with the Canon camera offering in the $1000 to $2000 price range. Great to see you. As always, thanks for sharing. Nyall
Love this! And....SNAKES!😱😱😱
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I've shot Canon for nearly 30years and just accepted that I will probably never have 'The Best' camera on the market but if it gives me what I want and, above all, is easy to use then why swap systems as I'm no Tony/Chelsea Northrup to be able to just cash in all my glass and camera. The Nikon D850 is well renowned and given it's age still stacks up well. I think now Canon, Nikon & Sony all have great full frame cameras so unless you are someone who must have the highest spec gear you can make do. Having something that you instinctively know how to use means you are more likely to capture a given shot. using Siri to work a camera is priceless though Chris! 😂😂😂
haha siri helped me out big time :D maybe i ask her to take the photo for me next time. thank you for watching steve
That was fun!
So relatable, I went from a 5DMkii to a D810 a few years ago and EVERYTHING was a different! Different wheels for aperture and shutter and then you has to turn the other way to get the same effect. It took months...
My god! That Nikons Dynamic range is insane! loved Chris's Photo.
Well done. Funny comments from each of you as the controls are different. NIce photos. Hate snakes. :)
Haha thank you Robert!
What a fun video.
Chris, you are being nice...the right way is the Canon way!!! And Mike, after 30 years of marriage I can tell you one thing to keep in mind....you are wrong! Seriously love how you two interact and the photography skills you both have.
Haha thank you Peter!
Great video guys! I think it's pretty hard to say one is so much better than the other. But, that flippy screen on the Canon ALMOST made me consider switching... almost. :D Something I wish Nikon would address in their next camera(s). I rarely pull my screen off the mount with my Z6.
And I love how you dealt with the snake. Just goes to show, give it room and it'll go on its way. Snakes aren't like the boogie man out to get us lol.
thank you for hanging out with us barbara! the snake was definitely chill ☮️😅
I wish Siri had led Chris to the "Exposure Delay Mode" (Shooting Menu -> d5) instead of the self timer. That would eliminate the mirror slap as well.
"How many info buttons do you need? Well, evidently all of them. Notice how she blames the camera for not having the buttons where she can find them, yet he blames himself for not being able to find the buttons. She had to get Siri's help, he figured it out. So I'm thinking she's totally biased without considering what the D850 has to offer, where he's open minded. Of course, we don't know beause we didn't get an opinion from her. The D850 is a superior camera in my opinion. It's always in the top few of the best cameras. DxOMark ranks the D850 4th behind two medium format cameras and one (newer) full frame (Sony). The R5 is ranked 19th. I know DxOMark isn't the ultimate authority, but they are a standard many people and companies use. AND I realize we can do "Which list is the best" game all day. In the end though, I believe it's all relative. It's like Ford and Chevy, which one is the best? I am 100% positive Chris and Mike could take pictures with a Canon Rebel and a Nikon N60 and put me to shame with my D850. So there's that.
That was a great idea to swap Cameras. I am wondering if you had ten images printed on a wall. Five Canon and Five Nikon, whether a few Photography friends could choose which was which? Love the fun side to the vlog also guys. Keep them up. 👍👌...
that would be a very interesting comparison. if you just look at the raw files, canon looks a little bit more orange/warm toned whereas the nikon raw files have a slight magenta tint. but i doubt anyone could tell them apart after the files are edited in LR/PS😅thank you for the very interesting idea gary🤗
Nice video. Use exposure delay mode instead of 2 second delay to also reduce mirror vibration of the D850. d5 on the Custom Setting Menue.
Thanks Ivor!
pfft got to talk to siri. she didn't give me that awesome tip :D
I think it's always a problem when switching camera gear. As a Sony user I'm familiar with the Sony menus but when looking at Canon or Nikon menus I'm also in deep trouble. I remember good the last time in the Dolomites when I stood on Gampenalm with a photography buddy and he did not know how to exposure bracket on his Canon 5D Mark 4. We tried to search through all the menu points but we were both not able to find the setting. Luckily we had an internet connection available so we did a search in TH-cam to find a video that explained the neccesary steps....
smooth!! 😅what would we do without the internet and modern time technology right? thanks for watching andreas, appreciated!
Wow...just... Wow...
I agree with Canon's noise issue. I'm not sure why, even i experience the same with my R. Just months back i started noticing it. There is a color noise even with iso 400. I always make sure my exposure metering is right on cam and I won't push it hard in the post too, but i often see a noise in there. I know I can fix it on post, but still it makes me feel really bad that why there is a NOISE in the photo...uffff!!!
My Z 7 seemed to give me random color noise in summer mid-day sun at 100 ISO. Turned out to be a raw processing artifact (a chaotic low-level Moiré). Didn't show up in Nikon NX Studio, nor in DxO PhotoLab 4. The Z 7 doesn't have a low-pass (or AA) filter and LR may still have problems with that after all these years since the D800E. When we judge files and color, we actually judge raw processing and its low-level profiles - default or camera-specific (firmware version ...).
Very interesting. Thank you for the insight!
If nothing else, it highlights the need to get familiar with the system you're using. Some cameras have a steep learning curve. I would have never thought to ask Siri about a camera setting. Who knew? 🥂
haha genius😂thank you for watching!
Bronze Age: Love it! Hey, Siri? How can I get my Canon back? LoL!
haha if it would only work for that too! i was glad mike gave the r5 back after this evening out. i was a little bit concerned :D
Nice little Western Diamondback Rattlesnake, travelled from Switzerland to AZ in 2019 specifically to photograph rattlesnakes and unfortunately only found DOR's (Dead On Road) of this actually very common rattler species. Maybe next time when I am back in AZ as soon as Corona measures allows us to travel again. Best wishes from eastern Switzerland, Marco
thanks for watching marco! spring is a good time to see them here. if you come out here let me know and we go snake scouting😂👀🐍
@@chris_perea Hoi Chris, haha, absolutely will do that when I plan to be there next time. Probably in June 2022 I guess, best time to find rattlers in AZ is during monsoon season. Unfortunately when I was there, there was no rain in sight at all, people where complaining everywhere about the missing rainfalls. So it was very though to find some cool snakes ;-) Next time then ...btw, going out looking for snakes is called "Herping" it's like Birding, but cooler of course ;-) OHH, and the Canon R5 is definitely better than the D850, had the D850 for about a year before I completely switched to Sony mirrorless. Good move to go from 1DX M2 to R5, it's all in alle the better cam with more creative options ...(but please don't tell Mike I said this...LOL)
@@wilduntamedphotography1260 if you want to come out for monsoons, don't come before end of july. this is usually when the first big storms roll in. they often don't bring a lot of rain but a spectacular show of clouds and lightning. just make sure to acclimate in a sauna before coming out haha
R5 is a beast ❤
did you use the z camera for video?
Fun video! Chris, however Nikon did it is the right way. :D Don't go soft on us Mike!
haha i liked the nikon too!
Chris and Mike, nicely done. Now the only question that remains is Mike switching to Canon? As a fellow Nikon shooter, I cannot imagine it😉, but then again, I have not had the chance to use the R5. Great video, guys. Thank you for sharing.
Haha no I will not! It’s a nice camera, but I’d like to try the z7 before I ever think about switching. Plus I have no reason right now to give up the d850
@@PereaPhotography I am so with you on this. I've been wanting to rent a z7II, but I just do not have the time or funds right now. My Nikon D600 will just have to do for now.
Interesting on the R5's long exposure noise. 5 seconds isn't really that "long" of an exposure IMO. My Z6 and Z7ii don't start showing noticeable noise and/or hot pixels until around 4 minutes at base ISO (+/- some for ambient temperature).
Turn on LE NR for both, for daylight LE photography and you'll get none.
@@stevenrobinsonpictures Hi Steven. I was thinking about getting the Canon R5. What is the LE NR ? And how do you find that setting?
@@rogerd9150 long exposure noise reduction. It'll be in the menus but I can't tell you where as I shoot nikon
@@stevenrobinsonpictures Hello Steven. Thanks for the reply. I located the section of the Canon R5 manual that covers it. It does indeed go thru how to resolve that issue.
As a Canon user albeit only a 200d, I was lost trying to set-up my mates Nikon for his 1st nightscape photography experience and he had no idea because he only uses it on auto and jpeg. I initially was purchasing a Nikon until a Canon rep that was at the store saw me trying to navigate the menu's and showed me how much easier the Canon system was, I know I would have got accustomed to the Nikon system but I'm more than happy with Canon
Both systems definitely have their pros and cons! And everything is more difficult at night😅Thanks for watching Rob
I beat Chris to a rattlesnake photo, in New York of all places; a 3 foot Timber Rattlesnake. I got a decent capture with a 70-200. I'm surprised you didn't go with a longer lens for a closer capture; you had enough time. 😉
The two main positives for all Canon Cameras. Flippy screen and ease of use. Those were the points that led me to Canon. Although those Sony cameras are looking pretty sweet. 🥂
Thanks David! It was fun to use. The one thing Sony doesn’t have us ease of use. Just terrible. But the green skies are nice.. 🤣
@@PereaPhotography I hear Sony menus are a struggle. I think the reason Im looking at Sony is how well they work as a video as well as still camera. Plus green is my favorite color...just not for skies. LOL
Between the two, would you say that the R5 is worth almost 2k more than the D850? I'm looking to purchase an have been leaning towards mirrorless but the D850 is always there in the background. Any thoughts and what about the R6?
Thanks for the great video.
David
I would say it all depends on your type of photography. For wildlife/sport, I’d say stay with the d850. I’ve actually just switched from the d850 to the Nikon z7ii. It’s my latest video actually. For what I do, the switch made sense. But if I did more wildlife or sports, I would’ve stayed with the d850. We don’t have any experience with the r6, unfortunately.
@@PereaPhotography Thank you for your quick reply. This helps a lot.
Could I also ask if you have any knowledge or experience with the Nikon 200-500 vs the Sigma 150-600 for wildlife (on the D850)?
Take care and remain safe.
David
@@perceptualreality3502 yes I’ve used the 200-500 on the d850, and I can see that it’s fantastic. Especially for the price. I’ve rented a view times for trips and a wildlife project I had earlier this year. I don’t have any experience with the Sigma, but have heard that the AF is a bit slower, but that’s only hearsay. I can’t say personally.
@@PereaPhotography Thank you so much for your help. Keep safe. Kind regards, David
I am not too sure, but I think he likes the Flip Screen on the R5...
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DSLR and mirrorless there is no comparison. D850 is the best dslr ever made. Electronic viewfinders suck. Something cathartic about actually looking at a scene through real viewfinder.
Just think all the gear y’all would have if you combined systems! But who would have to switch? 😂
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Chris had the best camera in the world? I didn’t realize you shot with a Sony A7riii 😜👍
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Umm, Nikon lenses have been "turn counter-clockwise (as seen from the photographer's perspective) to remove the lens" far longer than Canon's opposite way so which one is the right way? LOL!
who knows :D thanks for watching peter!
This is an argument as old as the toilet paper orientation debate.
Dynamic range at Nikon D850 is much better .
Nice video and great photos but I didn't see much of a comparison. She states the D850 feels like it's from the bronze age because she doesn't know where either of the two dedicated buttons are. A comparison would have been trying to capture the same images of the same thing...say like a bird flying by or otherwise challenging exposure situation and seeing which yielded the best results right out of the camera. I'm considering between these very same cameras right now and this video did absolutely nothing to help with that decision except inform me that the Canon is easier to use for a person who knows how to use a Nikon than a Nikon is to use for a person who uses a Canon and doesn't have siri, a manual or.
Nikon is backwards, remember that it’s lefty loosey, righty tighty. Stay safe.
i hope i can remember that haha thanks enrique!
It’s all relative. Never shot with anything but Nikon so it’s not backwards.
D850♥️
You two crack me up! Everyone knows the Sony is better. 😁
Booooooo 😁 kidding, great to se your comment Mitzi! Hope all is well!
Floppy?
ISO actually goes down to 50.
I'm admittedly biased, but Canons are really easy to use. I predict a two-Canon household within a year.
Haha if anything I’ll look at the z7ii before I think about canon. I absolutely love my z6 and already have all the lenses/adapters
How did she get cell tower access to ask Siri, deep in rattlesnake country? 🤔
Haha Siri is everywhere 👀
comparing a camera that came out almost 5 yrs ago is not cool. Should compare to the z7. And the dynamic range and color in nikon Z camera is so much better then canon and sony in what you actually see in photos.
Sure just send us out a z7 and we’ll compare it... these are the cameras we have 🤷🏻♂️
@@PereaPhotography -> just for fun :
www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D850-versus-Canon-EOS-R5-versus-Nikon-Z7II___1177_1355_1361
www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-NIKKOR-Z-35mm-F18-S-on-Nikon-Z7-versus-Nikon-NIKKOR-Z-24-70mm-F28-S-on-Nikon-Z7-versus-Canon-RF-28-70mm-F2L-USM-on-Canon-EOS-R__1997_1270_2025_1270_1993_1262
www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7R-IV-versus-Canon-EOS-R5-versus-Nikon-Z7II___1326_1355_1361
www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-NIKKOR-Z-85mm-F18-S-on-Nikon-Z7-versus-Canon-RF-85mm-F2-Macro-IS-STM-on-Canon-EOS-R-versus-Canon-RF-50mm-F12L-USM-on-Canon-EOS-R__2053_1270_2048_1262_1995_1262
Z glass is very good !!! , just go and see all the MTF Charts... and the price diferenceces
I think it's a great comparison. Goes to show you just how well the Nikon D850 stacks up to the competition (almost) 5 years later. Legendary.
First.
And with such an insightful comment!!!😉😉😉
10 points!!
@@PereaPhotography How many do I need for a Bosox hat? Enjoyed the video...I'm considering an R5 so any actual user info is good info (even if he is a Nikon shooter).