I was impressed with the opening segment where he ran a 10Km race at a speed on 4:24 per mile; I wish I could have run just a single mile at that pace in my youth! I get the essence of the rest of it. Rather than trying to catch someone at a single moment with an illicit substance in his/her system, they are looking for physiological response patterns that indicate there were some artificial manipulations other than just changes in training routines (like altitude, speed vs endurance workouts).
even coffee is a performance-enhancing drug and everyone and their momma consumes caffeine for energy boosts, let alone athletes. it can provide up to 5% performance benefits depending on how much is taken and the quality of the product. 5% can be the difference between 1st and 6th at the pro level. A certain amount of coffee in the testing NCAA is actually considered illegal due to performance-enhancing benefits, but it's an enormous amount that no one is taking really.
@@iflex1963 Thank you. Completely agree. All this talk about special shoes and modern training regimens is a smokescreen. I have read many times that microdosing is currently undetectable. And no, I am not talking about caffeine. More like EPO for distance runners and all sorts of anabolic steroids for sprinters.
PSA: HGB = hemoglobin htc = hematocrit in the 90s in cycling a htc above 50 was an instant 2 weeks ban because of health reasons. with such a high htc value, your blood is more like ketchup and the risk of heart attacks is really high.
Sorry to be pedantic but epo is naturally found in the body. It's responsible for stimulation of new red blood cells. The main clue that he was using EPO was the increase of reticulates in the blood. Reticulates are early blood cells So suggests that his body is pumping out huge amounts of red blood cells that are not fully formed (normally this will be found if someone was having major traumatic bleeds as a body doesn't care about the quality of RBC but the quantity to keep things flowing). The thing is if this was to be naturally forming his hemocrat would be in the basement based on the percentage of reticulates.
I think Kenyan Athletics has a case to answer. There has for a long time been consistent rumours of systemic doping of Kenyan athletes. That is not saying every Kenyan athlete dopes. I believe that there are extremely good athletes in east Africa that are superior athletes and perform on the world stage with natural ability. Kewmoi I think is an example of an athlete in the Kenyan system that was middle of the pack and to get recognition and stand out in Kenya needed to dope to achieve this level. If rumours are true there is a well established ‘dark side’ of athletics in Kenya so doping for Kewmoi would have been easy with unscrupulous support staff that have a whole doping program mapped out. These people prayed on Kewmoi as a young impressionable 17 year old athlete. That is not to excuse Kewmoi of his choice to allegedly dope but I’m sure his young age would have been a factor in making a wrong decision. This is certainly not excusing Kewmoi of wrong doing. There is abnormality in his biological passport over a 7 year period so evidence points to him continually doping over the course of his international running carrier. I think 7 year ban is light. I lifetime ban should be in order. If the IAAF and WADA are serious about cleaning up athletics they need stricter penalties and not just a slap on the wrist for athletes. There will always be cheaters in sport however making the penalty if caught outweigh the reward by imposing life time bans meaning athletes lose ability of making any money through running is needed.
For Kenyans they call it EPO. For developed countries they call it "SUPPLEMENTS". Mo Farah and Galen Rupp was under Salazar and never been investigated.
Well the bigger problem I find a 17 years is not even a legal adult so they would have no access to being able to do this. They need to be punishing the coaches and teams because this kid is not the one sticking the needle in himself and getting bllod and horomones. Someone like a team coach is pushing these young athlete. The other problem your cognative brain that helps with long term reason, do not finish developing until the age of 25 years old.
Amazing video on a frustrating topic. You explained everything in great detail thanks! Currently there are huge accusations against Wada, stating that they covered some chinese swimmers doping, directly before the Games in Tokyo. I really hope this gets cleared up because it destabilises the trust we have in those institutions.
I wonder if the AIU provides workshops to young and up and coming athletes around the world so that they know to avoid these things. I wonder if sometimes the coaches just say "take this" or "take that" and the kids don't know what they're doing. I'm not saying that its the case here (since this guy has been around for a while), but I do worry about the younger kids and all around the world.
I mean sure but if you’re a young athlete just taking supplements without a parent or guardian looking over it let alone taking one without checking out what’s in it or the banned substance list, you’re kind of the one in the wrong. Cause if an athlete cares that much about their career they would do these checks. Not saying that there aren’t some athletes that just simply don’t know all this stuff, but there are a very small handful that don’t given the fact that colleges and pro races are extremely clear on telling athletes to watch what they take
@@zacharycarroll8063 You're thinking like an American. Around the world many parents or guardians would do whatever the coach tells them. Or wouldn't even be there (they'd probably be at work). And even if they do hear something, many wouldn't even understand. Many athletes are on their own.
As a former collegiate runner I can confirm, NO coach is giving athletes anything! Doping is not new and not as simple as taking a supplement. In college I wasn’t even given vitamins. Testing is taken often and randomly. People want to win and make money. This sport is one of the hardest and even harder to make a living in. It sucks even more for the African nations where soccer makes most of the money
@andreaakachocolatedimples5457 that's an anecdote. I was a college athlete too and MY coach didn't give me anything but some do and others line up access. But you don't even need coaches to do that. Every college has people selling PEDs and most large high school have students selling PEDs.
I find it a bit scary to look at those numbers. I took my time trying to break down the numbers and had help from chatgpt-4o. It was still not extremely cut and dry. It would be nice to see a video showing how you can with certainty see if an athlete has been doping because it seems like many of these numbers can be manipulated to just be legal and still look like natural fluctuations, especially if you start early, so we can't detect sudden changes. If you are good at it, you could probably match what a legal biological passport would look like for an athlete who has won the biological lottery.
from my knowledge from XC-SKIING and cycling HGB above 17,5 means no start for "healt reasons" and you have to get your parents tested to see that it's hereditary. HCT over 50 is disqualification and almost certainly doping. This is from late 90's so maybe the rules have changed, but it's really shady to let someone with those numbers even compete.
You're thinking of the rules in pro cycling, where HCT above 50 has been illegal since the late 90's. Maybe in Athletics, it's still 'Anything goes'...
Before testing was available for EPO, if a cyclist had a hematocrit above 50 , he had to sit for a couple weeks until it declined to a “safe” level This guy has some in the mid-50s. Makes you run fast, but also makes your blood like SLUDGE and that’s how you die in your sleep. Blood gets thick & as your heart rate declines while you sleep, the sludge can cause an MI and death
It is sad to see a young talented athlete in a situation like this. I just hope there is an open investigation against his coach and/or other people that might be involved.
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@@SB-nh7uv I Pray that you receive this message and start to live for Jesus. May you find Him and start to read The Bible! You can be made new because you can be covered in The Precious Blood Of Jesus Christ.
This is essential for the sport or else eventually most runners would be forced into EPO use or choose to be unable to compete. Hopefully the runner can have success coaching running or stay in athletics and be a beacon of truth.
Something that I always found interesting was that people get caught for doping all the time, yet they never hold the world record. What does that say about the people that do hold the record? Not being on drugs and beating those that were caught with drugs by such a large margin is..... interesting to say the least
Its all business, this case was a set up... Why was he never caught when he was with NN running team Nike project.... And when he shifted then he was suddenly banned....😢
Incorrect. There have been many top runners who have been caught doping (Ben Johnson, Justin Gatlin, Flo Jo, Marion Jones, Tyson Gay, Asafa Powell, etc.). Some (or all) of these runners held a world record at one point. Your presumption is wrong.
It's good news that the cheater got caught but it's bad news in that cheating at that level brings the integrity of the sport into disrepute. Look at what Lance Armstrong did for cycling ... he destroyed the credibility of the sport to such an extent that now and I guess still in 20 years time people have serious doubts about the performances of the likes of Pogacar and Vingegaard and whoever follows in their footsteps.
Just ran Chattanooga 70.3 watched a runner cheat the course. It was a double loop. On the first loop she noticed one out and back on the course contained no electronic surveillance so she skipped it on the second pass.
I’m very surprised seem his HCT level over 50 and not be an issue. That’s such red flag. Not to mentioned in Cycling you can’t be over 50 and less you proof you have a HTC level over 50 natural, because you live at high altitude.
@@gwen9642 but his number changed a lot. Not sure how athletics works, but over 50 in cycling for WADA is pretty much doping. I will think is the same in athletics, since they run by the same anti-doping corporation.
@@jonethernandez3365athletics has the same requirements as cycling. To be over 50, you really need to have historical proof that it's not abnormal for you. Of course, some people start doping at young ages and don't get a hematocrit test before they start doping.
I thought it was hilarious when the scandal broke about teams in the UCI using their passport results to manage their doping programmes. You can always count on pro cycling to be way ahead of everyone else when it comes to doping.
It's scary to think that all elite athletes are doping, whether it be in track & field, swimming, cycling, rowing, and weight lifting. The list is extensive. If the drug testers do their jobs correctly in Paris this summer, the Olympic rings will shatter.
@@azieldaly2965 Because it's not healthy! Are you kidding? Doping can cause all sorts of problems plus it means that a body that performs clean won't win no matter how gifted they are.
That’s complete nonsense. Kenya has had roughly the same amount of athletes caught doping per year as Americans and not once has anyone said that their is a coping scheme in America. And that’s because we know that Americans have many different coaches and training locations which is literally the same with Kenya. Difference is that Kenya has a lot of high quality athletes who are the ones being caught at the moment meanwhile it’s been a lot of not so well known Americans recently, but let that not shield the 2005-2020 era when guys like Tyson Gay, Gatlin, Coleman and so on were all getting busted one way or another. If this was anything like the Russian government sponsored doling scandal you would have that happen due to a government that really benefited and had pride off the performances of those athletes, but in this case, Kenyan athletes are treated so lowly in pay that the majority of them work a second job and or change allegiances which just goes to show how little the government would care to do something like that. That being said, there are a lot of athletes that do this out of desperation knowing they can’t make a living wage without being at the top. I’m definitely not saying this is right and I believe they should be punished like any other athlete, but to blatantly say there is a country wide doping scandal in Kenya because quite a few top tier athletes were caught doping is just downright disrespectful to all the other athletes who are not doping and truly run these impressive times
@@HashBrownDoyler I’m sorry for what you went through, I sympathize for you. But there is a reason that I am writing this, there is a feeling that you must to hear this. Jesus Christ Loves you so much that He died on the cross for your sins. And He rose from the dead. I Pray that you receive this message and start to live for Him. May you find Him and start to read The Bible! You can be made new because you can be covered in The Precious Blood Of Jesus Christ.
I'm confused: what is the max HTC allowed by IAAF? If you see samples 4,30,37 & 38, his HTC levels are "averaging 53.4" which is insane- yet they're after him because of samples 21 thru 29? (yes, I understand the fluctuation issue, but HTC alone is the red flag)
the original thumbnail was a picture of kwemoi in a race and the title was different, the next day it's a different clickbait title and image of runners with the names crossed out - TRP utterly notorious these pastcouple of years for clickbaiting and doing this shady shit of renaming and changing thumbnails to bait people into thinking it's a different video
Listen I use testosterone for my health and that my levels were below 300, but I’m 41 and not out there claiming to be the best and making money. Play fair and true when you are trying to be a world level athlete. The punishment for cheating is just not worth it.
They can’t do anything about his prize money, but they can take away his medals. And in doing so, usually they sometimes take time off his ban if he surrenders his global medals or just threaten to add more years of ban if he refuses. Bottom line is this is his first offense, he was looking at 3-4 years until he made these wild accusations in which he’s now faced with 6. At that point his career is almost pretty much over, but if he has the will to pull it out of the fire when he returns in 2029 and truly be clean, then I feel he has a right to do so. Although if it was a situation where he doped, got banned, came back and doped again then I’d fully agree to a lifetime ban
@@zacharycarroll8063it's honestly beyond ridiculous when 95% of the athletes in the sport are juicing, but it is what it is. They can play their little cat and mouse and occasionally bust somebody and ruin their career when basically everyone in the sport uses PEDs and it's that simple.
Lets continue to stick to the facts. There are currently today over 600 athletes from 70+ countries in Track and Field alone who are banned for doping, they are not allowed to compete and are serving bans. The AIU is very fast to show the ones they are catching, but what we should be very concerned about are the huge numbers they are not catching. Recent documented reports from Kenya stats that 40% of their athletes are doping.
😂 The answer is obvious and right there in front of you. Unless you think the world-class athletes from Jamaica, who compete on the world stage are somehow exempt from the world stage of competition. 🤔? Here’s an idea: there’s this nifty feature on the Internet, called Google search. Everyone uses it to find answers to their questions, except for the laziest morons on the planet.
@@bucko2801 Not really their national anti doping agency is still a joke linked directly to their training groups via incompetent government officials like Jarrett
IF they were consistent with taking away results, i would be all for it. but they are not. lance still has his wins in the tdf. i don't follow running, but if they do this across the board then it's good but if they do it selectively it's not a good thing at all.
Why cant there be 2 or 3 independent doping test companies... in arizona there was a lady who was responsible for hundreds and hundreds of bad blood Dui and drug tests. If there were two companies... they could compare results...
what fascinates me is that looking at this, people think that these are isolated cases, like a supposedly non-doping Kipchoge could beat elite runners _using PEDs_ whole thing's farcical
From what I recall the Kenyans just updated their testing protocols and equipment in the last few years to do more routine testing (I believe India is doing it, too). That's why you're hearing about more Kenyans being caught in doping schemes. And from that testing they can develop a statistically-based chart you see here and see patterns for those using PED in coordination with other drugs that 'mask' the PEDs. The cheaters are staying one step ahead of the investigators.
everyone would appreciate it if you didn't keep changing the title and thumbnail of videos multiple times after they've been uploaded presumably for more clicks since the previous titles and thumbnails were completely fine
This is great for the sport. I think the passport is the only way to catch these guys. Looking for changes over time. They never catch drugs in their system so it’s best to constantly measure a pro pool of athletes physiology to look for changes. Anyone should have at least two years of testing before a world record or global medal can be certified.
@J.e.f.f.r.e.y that would be wild. Problem is, can't really become a pro without it these days so it's beyond pervasive, and hence, the perpetual problem.
It’s safest to assume all the athletes at the top level are doing it, the initial tests mandated by WADA aren’t hard to pass even if you’re doping. It’s the follow-up tests they do when the initial test (which, again, is easy to pass despite doping if you know what to do) comes back positive that are near impossible to pass if you’re doping but WADA doesn’t mandate those tests unless the easy test comes back with suspicious results. The system is set up to allow doping while maintaining the illusion of these organisations taking doping seriously to the wider public, it’s a complete joke
I don’t understand anything about the sport of running, and least of all about the testing of blood or whatever, but even I can see that there was something definitely wrong with his tests, and that has not happened by accident or illness, and for that I would say that whatever the outcome of his legal challenges he was obviously doing something he should not be doing, and any sanctions he gets should be lengthy, but what I don’t understand is why, why would a seemingly up and coming athlete do what he did, he could easily have competed at the highest level without cheating, and his, or his teams, assertion that somehow the anti-doping agency was manipulating the test results is pretty ridiculous, why would they want to, if they had been doing what he is accusing them of it would reflect badly on the entire sport and lead to questions about whether they manipulated results to shield runners that they knew were cheating but they wanted them to get a clean bill of health, and I can’t believe that they would think that they could get away with it.
I think coaches and agents should also get a ban. Many of these athletes do not have post-high school education and probably depends on their coaches and agents on almost all aspects of their lives. If they dope, the coaches and agents must know a thing or two. Interestingly, many agents/coaches in Rift Valley where most of them train are from the United States and Europe. Are they tainting the names of African athletes for personal gain because it will have no impact on them or their countries?
Testing is what results the people testing wants! He’s young and targeted because of great results as some countries pay to have their rare athlete to be a medalist in world’s and the Olympics! His country did pay or sponsor with bribe money ❤
Can we finally implement open categories? People wanna see the peak of human performances... Pretending everyone is clean is just far worse then letting them compete in open
People want the illusion of peak performance. Once athletes admit to using PEDs, interest the the sport declines. Equally, catching too many cheaters also has a negative impact on viewing numbers. Every sport thus finds the optimal balance between enabling enough PED usage to produce extraordinary athletes while allowing the audience to preserve their suspension of disbelief.
@@petewest3122you know, in the ancient Greek Olympiad they used to consume straight sheep testicles for their training. Athletes have ALWAYS sought any supplements or substances they can consume that will enhance their performance. Track and field is the dirtiest sport on Earth with probably 95% of the athletes using PEDs. What they should do is get rid of this ridiculous cat and mouse testing all together and let them take whatever in the hell they want. Then then can also have a "natural" division like they do in bodybuilding. Everyone who thinks most track athletes are clean believes in unicorns.
It's simple. Just start your own track league. All these leagues are man made. How wealthy are you? You may be too young to remember when the UFC did not exist. On 11/12/1993, the UFC suddenly existed with its own rules and regulations. You can do the same with an open track league. But here's your stumbling block: You will not get corporate sponsors who will associate their brands with openly doping athletes. And then you are back full circle to where we are today. Follow the money.
If you use certain substances, it gives you the ability to use oxygen much more efficiently. The stimulant EPO was what Lance Armstrong used, and it helped him in the Tour de France.
Naive people believe there are top athletes who do not use PEDs. There needs to be a paradigm shift in sports because banning individuals doing what is required to compete at the highest level is so outdated and shortsighted.
Elite athletics is all about money politics and chemistry. It is not only un-ethical but also un-healthy. The contrary of the ideal of "mens sane in corpore sano".
@@nohands6865He was very much avearage Never even made top 5 in kenyan championships... 10000m world championships 2022 he was given a chance even if he finished 8th at the trials. At world championships he still flopped badly so nooo he was never a top perfomer unless he was in an amateur field
@@Missjj254 so a Kenyan that trained for a majority of his life and got caught doping could only manage 8th at his country’s trials? A country that has had multiple documentaries done about how easy it is to get your hands on PEDs alongside with a famously corrupt athletics federations.. that should be sounding off alarm bells that he might not be the only one doping
@@nohands6865 athletes that dope are below average athletes. There are a lot of talented athletes in Kenya so an average athlete might never get a chance thats why they dope to be able to compete with the talented
This is Very Bad News. Bad news that athletes are still cheating because they think they can get away with it. Bad news that is takes so long to catch them-seven plus years. Sports won’t be fixed until these items are fixed.
I would go as far as to say the VAST majority of distance athletes are doping in some form or another. Thats road marathon, ultra running, triathletes etc etc. If you think these people aren’t all cheating you’re a fool.
What may I ask, were they doing for 6 years, other than not checking his passport? Seems ridiculous to me. Two years perhaps, but not more. There’s no excuse for being so slow to act.
none of these athletes are tested weekly, its too expensive to do that. Even bolt wasn't tested that much and in kenya where they train its hard to test them frequently. THis page gives a lot of bullshit info
This seems common to me. We have always considered these African nations as just superior. But I am seeing hs age athletes entering these races and from the outset can run with professionals who have been training for years. I am just not buying it and I feel bad for the pro's who have been doing it for years being undermined by these cheats. I'm also seeing hs and college age runners who are likely not being tested start showing amazing times and I'm not really buying that either. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty so I won't identify anyone but I think it is happening. Hopefully, we will see a crackdown.
You can’t ban athletes in a whole country for the actions of a few individuals. It’s not like the country is systematically drugging its athletes like in the case of East Germany or Russia . These are the actions of a few desperate individuals and their coaches . Prize money is life changing to some of these athletes so the temptation to cheat is ever present. I do think that athletes that come from places where there is repeated offenders and less regulation of these drugs should be tested more as to preserve the integrity of the sport and to discourage cheaters .
@@georgepower7 A “few individuals”…?!? The number of runners that get popped from that country every year is in the high double, if not triple digits.. that suggests that’s it more than just the odd runner or coach that took a gamble and lost.. those numbers suggest it’s a state sponsored program.. I don’t know if even Russia has had as many people pop dirty in the last decade as kenya has. I would love to know how they put in those workouts every day on one meal a day.. it’s not possible to do naturally.
@@darthsilversith667 the issue is it’s not state sanctioned. If it’s organized cheating by the government or a sanctioning body then you can ban the country. This appears to be individuals or trading rouge training camps that are cheating . I don’t think you should punish a who country for the actions of a few . Even if it’s dozens of cheats , we are still talking about a very small percentage out of the tens of thousands of runners . These are relatively expensive drugs and the overwhelming majority of Kenyan runners can’t afford them
@@georgepower7 And exactly.. the prize money is too tempting not to do it. I recently read that most kenyan pro runners keep a low profile and do road races mostly.. where they can still make enough money to live on and there is next to no testing. Not that even if they did do more testing that that would mean anything.. hgh stays in your system for less than a day and even if you were tested within that same day, you’d have a better chance than not at still passing the test. I bet if the doping agency showed up unannounced at a few of these road races and demanded everyone that was competing had to be tested.. I bet the vast majority of people would just leave.. like what recently happened at a high school track meet in India last year. Kenya as a country refusing to crack down is them giving their unofficial blessing to dope. They need to be made an example of to preserve the integrity of the sport.. perhaps a decade long ban and no prize money to live on would make them all think twice about cutting corners..
@@darthsilversith667 Kenya is still a developing country and they may not have the resources to crack down effectively. But I do agree that something more drastically must be done by the Kenyan government if for no other reason to save their reputation.
This is a joke! I was a bad cyclist 12 years ago.... Absolutely everyone was doping without even being professional! Imagen the tests upside down.... How many can train 20h per week pure zone 2 without completely destroying their complete hormonsystem? Absolutely no one..... Maximum braindamage and a bananas hypothalamus would still burn out.... 1lbs or even 1kg testies would still not make enough testosterone. I think we should be polite and give our absolute respect to all world record holders..... When someone devotes their life like lance armstrong and train 40h per week we should give them the same respect as when haftor bjornson deadlifts 501kg. It's insane, super cool, and sometimes really dangerous for the athlete and sometimes not. But they all compete enhanched. We should recognize it and still lift the individual up high..... Otherwise we already have all our wrs from the last 2000 years and its hardly any need to continue any sport at all.
Neem een arm land, waar de mensen genetisch goed gebouwd zijn voor een sport waar veel geld te verdienen valt. Wat denk je dat er gebeurd? Natuurlijk wordt er dirty gespeeld, dit is maar het topje van de ijsberg.
"I thought it couldn't get any worse" Why? Surely the evidence and your growing amount of videos with a similar title, would suggest its going to keep getting worse.
Good question. Not entirely sure but there have been recent reports on new EPO use methods that leave your system faster. Always evolution on abuse and detections. Kind of a game of cat and mouse that never ends
Damn those stats are awesome. I mean…I have no clue what they mean but it looks great
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@@TheTrailRabbitwhat do you mean?
haha was thinking the same thing. An explanation would have been cool but still very good video, thanks.
it basically means his blood can carry 20% more oxygen than a regular athlete
I was impressed with the opening segment where he ran a 10Km race at a speed on 4:24 per mile; I wish I could have run just a single mile at that pace in my youth! I get the essence of the rest of it. Rather than trying to catch someone at a single moment with an illicit substance in his/her system, they are looking for physiological response patterns that indicate there were some artificial manipulations other than just changes in training routines (like altitude, speed vs endurance workouts).
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Call me a doubting Thomas but is there really ANY elite athlete not on some kind of PED nowadays?
even coffee is a performance-enhancing drug and everyone and their momma consumes caffeine for energy boosts, let alone athletes. it can provide up to 5% performance benefits depending on how much is taken and the quality of the product. 5% can be the difference between 1st and 6th at the pro level. A certain amount of coffee in the testing NCAA is actually considered illegal due to performance-enhancing benefits, but it's an enormous amount that no one is taking really.
No....all the top guys are on Peds.... and many of the not so elite athletes.
When they talk about "peaking" a big part of that is super supplements...
@@TheRealBrayoTvim pretty sure daniel komen was found to have a ton of caffeine in his system
@@iflex1963 Thank you. Completely agree. All this talk about special shoes and modern training regimens is a smokescreen. I have read many times that microdosing is currently undetectable. And no, I am not talking about caffeine. More like EPO for distance runners and all sorts of anabolic steroids for sprinters.
bro dumped a library worth of numbers and letters on my screen
its not that hard
Did it hurt you to look at data?
@@matthewg5792 yes, I need to go back to watching skibidi toilet brainrot
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@@dreifunf9675 That's what she said.... oh wait
The amount of effort they put to prove that he was on PED is crazy. I'm happy :D
PSA:
HGB = hemoglobin
htc = hematocrit
in the 90s in cycling a htc above 50 was an instant 2 weeks ban because of health reasons.
with such a high htc value, your blood is more like ketchup and the risk of heart attacks is really high.
Sorry to be pedantic but epo is naturally found in the body. It's responsible for stimulation of new red blood cells. The main clue that he was using EPO was the increase of reticulates in the blood. Reticulates are early blood cells So suggests that his body is pumping out huge amounts of red blood cells that are not fully formed (normally this will be found if someone was having major traumatic bleeds as a body doesn't care about the quality of RBC but the quantity to keep things flowing).
The thing is if this was to be naturally forming his hemocrat would be in the basement based on the percentage of reticulates.
I think Kenyan Athletics has a case to answer. There has for a long time been consistent rumours of systemic doping of Kenyan athletes. That is not saying every Kenyan athlete dopes. I believe that there are extremely good athletes in east Africa that are superior athletes and perform on the world stage with natural ability. Kewmoi I think is an example of an athlete in the Kenyan system that was middle of the pack and to get recognition and stand out in Kenya needed to dope to achieve this level. If rumours are true there is a well established ‘dark side’ of athletics in Kenya so doping for Kewmoi would have been easy with unscrupulous support staff that have a whole doping program mapped out. These people prayed on Kewmoi as a young impressionable 17 year old athlete. That is not to excuse Kewmoi of his choice to allegedly dope but I’m sure his young age would have been a factor in making a wrong decision. This is certainly not excusing Kewmoi of wrong doing. There is abnormality in his biological passport over a 7 year period so evidence points to him continually doping over the course of his international running carrier. I think 7 year ban is light. I lifetime ban should be in order. If the IAAF and WADA are serious about cleaning up athletics they need stricter penalties and not just a slap on the wrist for athletes. There will always be cheaters in sport however making the penalty if caught outweigh the reward by imposing life time bans meaning athletes lose ability of making any money through running is needed.
For Kenyans they call it EPO. For developed countries they call it "SUPPLEMENTS". Mo Farah and Galen Rupp was under Salazar and never been investigated.
Well the bigger problem I find a 17 years is not even a legal adult so they would have no access to being able to do this. They need to be punishing the coaches and teams because this kid is not the one sticking the needle in himself and getting bllod and horomones. Someone like a team coach is pushing these young athlete. The other problem your cognative brain that helps with long term reason, do not finish developing until the age of 25 years old.
Amazing video on a frustrating topic.
You explained everything in great detail thanks!
Currently there are huge accusations against Wada, stating that they covered some chinese swimmers doping, directly before the Games in Tokyo. I really hope this gets cleared up because it destabilises the trust we have in those institutions.
Boy, this is really exciting
Atypical Biological Passport sounds kinda badass without context
21st century band name
I wonder if the AIU provides workshops to young and up and coming athletes around the world so that they know to avoid these things. I wonder if sometimes the coaches just say "take this" or "take that" and the kids don't know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that its the case here (since this guy has been around for a while), but I do worry about the younger kids and all around the world.
When you're in the testing pool, you're told everything you need to know.
I mean sure but if you’re a young athlete just taking supplements without a parent or guardian looking over it let alone taking one without checking out what’s in it or the banned substance list, you’re kind of the one in the wrong. Cause if an athlete cares that much about their career they would do these checks. Not saying that there aren’t some athletes that just simply don’t know all this stuff, but there are a very small handful that don’t given the fact that colleges and pro races are extremely clear on telling athletes to watch what they take
@@zacharycarroll8063 You're thinking like an American.
Around the world many parents or guardians would do whatever the coach tells them. Or wouldn't even be there (they'd probably be at work).
And even if they do hear something, many wouldn't even understand. Many athletes are on their own.
As a former collegiate runner I can confirm, NO coach is giving athletes anything! Doping is not new and not as simple as taking a supplement. In college I wasn’t even given vitamins. Testing is taken often and randomly. People want to win and make money. This sport is one of the hardest and even harder to make a living in. It sucks even more for the African nations where soccer makes most of the money
@andreaakachocolatedimples5457 that's an anecdote. I was a college athlete too and MY coach didn't give me anything but some do and others line up access. But you don't even need coaches to do that. Every college has people selling PEDs and most large high school have students selling PEDs.
I find it a bit scary to look at those numbers. I took my time trying to break down the numbers and had help from chatgpt-4o. It was still not extremely cut and dry. It would be nice to see a video showing how you can with certainty see if an athlete has been doping because it seems like many of these numbers can be manipulated to just be legal and still look like natural fluctuations, especially if you start early, so we can't detect sudden changes. If you are good at it, you could probably match what a legal biological passport would look like for an athlete who has won the biological lottery.
Why is anyone surprised that elite athletes are doing? It now the only way to become an elite athlete. May the best chemist win!
from my knowledge from XC-SKIING and cycling HGB above 17,5 means no start for "healt reasons" and you have to get your parents tested to see that it's hereditary. HCT over 50 is disqualification and almost certainly doping. This is from late 90's so maybe the rules have changed, but it's really shady to let someone with those numbers even compete.
You're thinking of the rules in pro cycling, where HCT above 50 has been illegal since the late 90's. Maybe in Athletics, it's still 'Anything goes'...
Before testing was available for EPO, if a cyclist had a hematocrit above 50 , he had to sit for a couple weeks until it declined to a “safe” level
This guy has some in the mid-50s. Makes you run fast, but also makes your blood like SLUDGE and that’s how you die in your sleep. Blood gets thick & as your heart rate declines while you sleep, the sludge can cause an MI and death
It is sad to see a young talented athlete in a situation like this. I just hope there is an open investigation against his coach and/or other people that might be involved.
they all do drugs at the top
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This is essential for the sport or else eventually most runners would be forced into EPO use or choose to be unable to compete. Hopefully the runner can have success coaching running or stay in athletics and be a beacon of truth.
Something that I always found interesting was that people get caught for doping all the time, yet they never hold the world record. What does that say about the people that do hold the record? Not being on drugs and beating those that were caught with drugs by such a large margin is..... interesting to say the least
Its all business, this case was a set up... Why was he never caught when he was with NN running team Nike project.... And when he shifted then he was suddenly banned....😢
Everyone is juiced. Only noobs think otherwise
@@rorykoehler9018 Amen
Incorrect. There have been many top runners who have been caught doping (Ben Johnson, Justin Gatlin, Flo Jo, Marion Jones, Tyson Gay, Asafa Powell, etc.). Some (or all) of these runners held a world record at one point. Your presumption is wrong.
@@rorykoehler9018 Says a noob.
Why is it bad news when cheaters are caught?
It's bad news that we have confirmation of more high level athletes having cheated, becuase its sad for the sport :(
because he's just one of every one of them that THEY chose to throw under the bus to "prove" that their system works.
Because it shows all the delusional people that think these elite athletes are clean that they miiight just actually not be
It's good news that the cheater got caught but it's bad news in that cheating at that level brings the integrity of the sport into disrepute. Look at what Lance Armstrong did for cycling ... he destroyed the credibility of the sport to such an extent that now and I guess still in 20 years time people have serious doubts about the performances of the likes of Pogacar and Vingegaard and whoever follows in their footsteps.
Because it shows the problem is systemic to the sport, and without performance integrity you've lost the sport itself.
Just ran Chattanooga 70.3 watched a runner cheat the course. It was a double loop. On the first loop she noticed one out and back on the course contained no electronic surveillance so she skipped it on the second pass.
Just one of 27 suspensions for African distance runners in 2023, correct?
I’m very surprised seem his HCT level over 50 and not be an issue. That’s such red flag. Not to mentioned in Cycling you can’t be over 50 and less you proof you have a HTC level over 50 natural, because you live at high altitude.
He is Kenyan so he basically lives at high altitude
@@gwen9642 but his number changed a lot. Not sure how athletics works, but over 50 in cycling for WADA is pretty much doping. I will think is the same in athletics, since they run by the same anti-doping corporation.
@@jonethernandez3365athletics has the same requirements as cycling. To be over 50, you really need to have historical proof that it's not abnormal for you. Of course, some people start doping at young ages and don't get a hematocrit test before they start doping.
I thought it was hilarious when the scandal broke about teams in the UCI using their passport results to manage their doping programmes. You can always count on pro cycling to be way ahead of everyone else when it comes to doping.
What does HCT mean?
He should be PERMANENTLY BANNED
Agreed. But 6 years is already basically the nail in the coffin really
The entire country of Kenya needs a 10 year ban.
@@thedailystride5407 not for him. He'll very likely be back
What did he do?
@@bobgreenfield9158 bro cheated for 7 years using EPO
It's scary to think that all elite athletes are doping, whether it be in track & field, swimming, cycling, rowing, and weight lifting. The list is extensive. If the drug testers do their jobs correctly in Paris this summer, the Olympic rings will shatter.
If they are all doing it, why is it scary?
@@azieldaly2965 Because it's not healthy! Are you kidding? Doping can cause all sorts of problems plus it means that a body that performs clean won't win no matter how gifted they are.
Can we admit there is a full on doping scandal going on in Kenya? Their athletes are guilty until proven innocent at this point.
Guess I will take a couple hours to look at a doper chart. Seems like a great way to lose my time
Every big country does it, specially the US and Russia. The big countries just have more experience, more experts, and more money.
@@morfos95 That's complete nonsense my dude
@PlaySA Made perfect sense to me. Skill issue.
That’s complete nonsense. Kenya has had roughly the same amount of athletes caught doping per year as Americans and not once has anyone said that their is a coping scheme in America. And that’s because we know that Americans have many different coaches and training locations which is literally the same with Kenya. Difference is that Kenya has a lot of high quality athletes who are the ones being caught at the moment meanwhile it’s been a lot of not so well known Americans recently, but let that not shield the 2005-2020 era when guys like Tyson Gay, Gatlin, Coleman and so on were all getting busted one way or another. If this was anything like the Russian government sponsored doling scandal you would have that happen due to a government that really benefited and had pride off the performances of those athletes, but in this case, Kenyan athletes are treated so lowly in pay that the majority of them work a second job and or change allegiances which just goes to show how little the government would care to do something like that. That being said, there are a lot of athletes that do this out of desperation knowing they can’t make a living wage without being at the top. I’m definitely not saying this is right and I believe they should be punished like any other athlete, but to blatantly say there is a country wide doping scandal in Kenya because quite a few top tier athletes were caught doping is just downright disrespectful to all the other athletes who are not doping and truly run these impressive times
All of the senior coaches tell them to take for their own gain
lol nope
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I'm confused:
what is the max HTC allowed by IAAF?
If you see samples 4,30,37 & 38, his HTC levels are "averaging 53.4" which is insane- yet they're after him because of samples 21 thru 29? (yes, I understand the fluctuation issue, but HTC alone is the red flag)
The limits are relative to the other numbers in each testing.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was about Cheptegei or Ketjelcha.
the original thumbnail was a picture of kwemoi in a race and the title was different, the next day it's a different clickbait title and image of runners with the names crossed out - TRP utterly notorious these pastcouple of years for clickbaiting and doing this shady shit of renaming and changing thumbnails to bait people into thinking it's a different video
Listen I use testosterone for my health and that my levels were below 300, but I’m 41 and not out there claiming to be the best and making money. Play fair and true when you are trying to be a world level athlete. The punishment for cheating is just not worth it.
If he can get away with it for 7 years imagine what others can get away with.
Yep, they are all cheating
Ya, why not permanently ?? And what about all his prize money ??
They can’t do anything about his prize money, but they can take away his medals. And in doing so, usually they sometimes take time off his ban if he surrenders his global medals or just threaten to add more years of ban if he refuses. Bottom line is this is his first offense, he was looking at 3-4 years until he made these wild accusations in which he’s now faced with 6. At that point his career is almost pretty much over, but if he has the will to pull it out of the fire when he returns in 2029 and truly be clean, then I feel he has a right to do so. Although if it was a situation where he doped, got banned, came back and doped again then I’d fully agree to a lifetime ban
@@zacharycarroll8063it's honestly beyond ridiculous when 95% of the athletes in the sport are juicing, but it is what it is. They can play their little cat and mouse and occasionally bust somebody and ruin their career when basically everyone in the sport uses PEDs and it's that simple.
He’ll lose it all anyways in legal fees
It’s not just about lying, its about the dozen wins he stole from others by an unfair advantage. He should be banned for life.
Interesting that is HCT levels are too high for him to be able to race as a pro cyclist. The reticulacites are the biggest giveaway.
I'm glad people are being caught, but why 7 years to officially bust if he had been showing abnormalities for several years?
Can only spot some patterns over a period of time
at the time its normal, takes years to gather data and look for out lieing data. They're not testing for substance but looking for changes.
Crazy hematocrit over 50, should've been busted a long time ago
Lets continue to stick to the facts. There are currently today over 600 athletes from 70+ countries in Track and Field alone who are banned for doping, they are not allowed to compete and are serving bans. The AIU is very fast to show the ones they are catching, but what we should be very concerned about are the huge numbers they are not catching. Recent documented reports from Kenya stats that 40% of their athletes are doping.
This channel is like the JxmyHighroller for running
Very hard to imagine that ANY champion is clean. Much like cycling in 90s and 2000s
the unfortunate reality is that most top athletes use gear
Just asking a question. Do the jamaicans ,now, do out of season testing?? Just asking!
Anyone running on the international scene is subject to testing by the sport’s governing body, worldwide.
@@cy8685 you havn't answered the question!
😂 The answer is obvious and right there in front of you. Unless you think the world-class athletes from Jamaica, who compete on the world stage are somehow exempt from the world stage of competition. 🤔?
Here’s an idea: there’s this nifty feature on the Internet, called Google search. Everyone uses it to find answers to their questions, except for the laziest morons on the planet.
@@bucko2801 Not really their national anti doping agency is still a joke linked directly to their training groups via incompetent government officials like Jarrett
Jakob was right they should ban all on krnya go back farming
IF they were consistent with taking away results, i would be all for it. but they are not. lance still has his wins in the tdf. i don't follow running, but if they do this across the board then it's good but if they do it selectively it's not a good thing at all.
Why cant there be 2 or 3 independent doping test companies... in arizona there was a lady who was responsible for hundreds and hundreds of bad blood Dui and drug tests. If there were two companies... they could compare results...
kwemoi and Ekuru training together?
His coach is Patrick Sang
what fascinates me is that looking at this, people think that these are isolated cases, like a supposedly non-doping Kipchoge could beat elite runners _using PEDs_
whole thing's farcical
We can only guess as to why World Athletics hasn't imposed a ban on Kenyan Athletes, as they did, to the Russian federation...
From what I recall the Kenyans just updated their testing protocols and equipment in the last few years to do more routine testing (I believe India is doing it, too). That's why you're hearing about more Kenyans being caught in doping schemes. And from that testing they can develop a statistically-based chart you see here and see patterns for those using PED in coordination with other drugs that 'mask' the PEDs. The cheaters are staying one step ahead of the investigators.
Doping happens everywhere. Plus for russians the govt sponsored doping sooo...
@@mutumalincoln
Yes,
Doping happens "everywhere".
That said, in a 5 year period, there were over 200 failed drug tests by Kenyan athletes, so...
Doesn’t restore my faith….too many of these kids are going from 10.2 to 9.7 too quick. But I’m glad they retro the results.
Bit of an exaggeration. No one out here running 9.7s
everyone would appreciate it if you didn't keep changing the title and thumbnail of videos multiple times after they've been uploaded presumably for more clicks since the previous titles and thumbnails were completely fine
You live in an alternate reality if you believe endurance sports are clean.
The sport of athletics appears to be: "have clean blood. Oh, and also being kinda fast is ideal."
Does he have the "enhanced games" flag draped on his shoulders in that interview?
This is great for the sport. I think the passport is the only way to catch these guys. Looking for changes over time. They never catch drugs in their system so it’s best to constantly measure a pro pool of athletes physiology to look for changes. Anyone should have at least two years of testing before a world record or global medal can be certified.
Smart dopers have been using biological passport reports to guide their doping programs. Top dopers will always be a step above
If they really want to get crazy 95% of the athletes would be banned or suspended. Would that be "good for the sport" as well?
@@EnviroNews True. If all the pros are just the guys who are willing to cheat then I say get rid of them all.
@J.e.f.f.r.e.y that would be wild. Problem is, can't really become a pro without it these days so it's beyond pervasive, and hence, the perpetual problem.
It’s safest to assume all the athletes at the top level are doing it, the initial tests mandated by WADA aren’t hard to pass even if you’re doping. It’s the follow-up tests they do when the initial test (which, again, is easy to pass despite doping if you know what to do) comes back positive that are near impossible to pass if you’re doping but WADA doesn’t mandate those tests unless the easy test comes back with suspicious results. The system is set up to allow doping while maintaining the illusion of these organisations taking doping seriously to the wider public, it’s a complete joke
I don’t understand anything about the sport of running, and least of all about the testing of blood or whatever, but even I can see that there was something definitely wrong with his tests, and that has not happened by accident or illness, and for that I would say that whatever the outcome of his legal challenges he was obviously doing something he should not be doing, and any sanctions he gets should be lengthy, but what I don’t understand is why, why would a seemingly up and coming athlete do what he did, he could easily have competed at the highest level without cheating, and his, or his teams, assertion that somehow the anti-doping agency was manipulating the test results is pretty ridiculous, why would they want to, if they had been doing what he is accusing them of it would reflect badly on the entire sport and lead to questions about whether they manipulated results to shield runners that they knew were cheating but they wanted them to get a clean bill of health, and I can’t believe that they would think that they could get away with it.
I think coaches and agents should also get a ban. Many of these athletes do not have post-high school education and probably depends on their coaches and agents on almost all aspects of their lives. If they dope, the coaches and agents must know a thing or two. Interestingly, many agents/coaches in Rift Valley where most of them train are from the United States and Europe. Are they tainting the names of African athletes for personal gain because it will have no impact on them or their countries?
Can you talk about the Nike air victory’s that came out of may 1 I would like to talk about them more
I think you mistakenly red crossed the Moroccan athlete on the thumbnail
WHAT ABOUT TADJI POGIGAR!!!!!
Am I one of the few who understood the numbers??
Testing is what results the people testing wants! He’s young and targeted because of great results as some countries pay to have their rare athlete to be a medalist in world’s and the Olympics! His country did pay or sponsor with bribe money ❤
They should apply antidoping measures to all professional athletes if possible...
Can we finally implement open categories?
People wanna see the peak of human performances... Pretending everyone is clean is just far worse then letting them compete in open
People want the illusion of peak performance. Once athletes admit to using PEDs, interest the the sport declines. Equally, catching too many cheaters also has a negative impact on viewing numbers. Every sport thus finds the optimal balance between enabling enough PED usage to produce extraordinary athletes while allowing the audience to preserve their suspension of disbelief.
@@petewest3122you know, in the ancient Greek Olympiad they used to consume straight sheep testicles for their training. Athletes have ALWAYS sought any supplements or substances they can consume that will enhance their performance. Track and field is the dirtiest sport on Earth with probably 95% of the athletes using PEDs. What they should do is get rid of this ridiculous cat and mouse testing all together and let them take whatever in the hell they want. Then then can also have a "natural" division like they do in bodybuilding. Everyone who thinks most track athletes are clean believes in unicorns.
It's simple. Just start your own track league. All these leagues are man made. How wealthy are you? You may be too young to remember when the UFC did not exist. On 11/12/1993, the UFC suddenly existed with its own rules and regulations. You can do the same with an open track league.
But here's your stumbling block: You will not get corporate sponsors who will associate their brands with openly doping athletes. And then you are back full circle to where we are today. Follow the money.
What applies to Lance Armstrong should apply to all others. Cycling or any other sport.
Actually athletics very rarely tests. And is very lenient on biological passports
Send the man to the Enhanced Games
Genuine question: how would doping help a long distance runner?
If you use certain substances, it gives you the ability to use oxygen much more efficiently. The stimulant EPO was what Lance Armstrong used, and it helped him in the Tour de France.
For distance runners : erythropoietin increases amt of red blood cells and hct
Your considering doping to be only steroids,its any drugs that gives you an advantage
If you think that the rest of them are clean, you've probably never competed in anything worth mentioning.
Too many cheats are supported. It got in his body. There are other countries that are allowed to cheat.
August 2029 - don't bother, the world is already precariously tilting towards the abys...
Naive people believe there are top athletes who do not use PEDs. There needs to be a paradigm shift in sports because banning individuals doing what is required to compete at the highest level is so outdated and shortsighted.
Elite athletics is all about money politics and chemistry. It is not only un-ethical but also un-healthy. The contrary of the ideal of "mens sane in corpore sano".
Did he dominate his events during this time or was his performance average.
A 58:30 half marathon is top 15 in the history of the distance. He was not average
@@nohands6865He was very much avearage
Never even made top 5 in kenyan championships... 10000m world championships 2022 he was given a chance even if he finished 8th at the trials. At world championships he still flopped badly so nooo he was never a top perfomer unless he was in an amateur field
@@Missjj254 so a Kenyan that trained for a majority of his life and got caught doping could only manage 8th at his country’s trials? A country that has had multiple documentaries done about how easy it is to get your hands on PEDs alongside with a famously corrupt athletics federations.. that should be sounding off alarm bells that he might not be the only one doping
@@nohands6865 athletes that dope are below average athletes. There are a lot of talented athletes in Kenya so an average athlete might never get a chance thats why they dope to be able to compete with the talented
Tester: Your test results came back. And you tested positive for PEDs.
Rogers: Nah, bro. It's just protein powder and creatine.
The end.
Let the boys juice we’re in too deep at this point
This is Very Bad News. Bad news that athletes are still cheating because they think they can get away with it. Bad news that is takes so long to catch them-seven plus years. Sports won’t be fixed until these items are fixed.
I would go as far as to say the VAST majority of distance athletes are doping in some form or another.
Thats road marathon, ultra running, triathletes etc etc.
If you think these people aren’t all cheating you’re a fool.
What may I ask, were they doing for 6 years, other than not checking his passport? Seems ridiculous to me. Two years perhaps, but not more. There’s no excuse for being so slow to act.
The pros on taking things that are yeara ahead of thd pharmaceutical top medical experts.
None of this is a positive drug test. Not exonerating him but there are other reasons why those blood markers could vary.
For 7 years? Please.
Why Ethiopian and Eritrean athletes do not dope? We’re different!
Every week. That is crazy. I feel like crap for a day after giving blood.
They don't draw as much blood as when you give blood.
none of these athletes are tested weekly, its too expensive to do that. Even bolt wasn't tested that much and in kenya where they train its hard to test them frequently. THis page gives a lot of bullshit info
Looks like good news to me
They are all doing it
This seems common to me. We have always considered these African nations as just superior. But I am seeing hs age athletes entering these races and from the outset can run with professionals who have been training for years. I am just not buying it and I feel bad for the pro's who have been doing it for years being undermined by these cheats. I'm also seeing hs and college age runners who are likely not being tested start showing amazing times and I'm not really buying that either. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty so I won't identify anyone but I think it is happening. Hopefully, we will see a crackdown.
there is no one undermined by cheats. because they are all cheats.
@@hoebertrabeck1621 You must enjoy being the know it all. Anyone who says something like that is probably a cheat themselves.
my hgb and hct is 14 and 43, and i run 31min for the 10k, what can i run if i have a hgb of 19 and a hct of 55?
Well, with an HCT of 55..... the answer is, A LOT faster! 😅
Now they can go after the rest of them.
Color me shocked. Time for Kenya to get that 10 year ban.
You can’t ban athletes in a whole country for the actions of a few individuals. It’s not like the country is systematically drugging its athletes like in the case of East Germany or Russia . These are the actions of a few desperate individuals and their coaches . Prize money is life changing to some of these athletes so the temptation to cheat is ever present. I do think that athletes that come from places where there is repeated offenders and less regulation of these drugs should be tested more as to preserve the integrity of the sport and to discourage cheaters .
@@georgepower7 A “few individuals”…?!? The number of runners that get popped from that country every year is in the high double, if not triple digits.. that suggests that’s it more than just the odd runner or coach that took a gamble and lost.. those numbers suggest it’s a state sponsored program.. I don’t know if even Russia has had as many people pop dirty in the last decade as kenya has. I would love to know how they put in those workouts every day on one meal a day.. it’s not possible to do naturally.
@@darthsilversith667 the issue is it’s not state sanctioned. If it’s organized cheating by the government or a sanctioning body then you can ban the country. This appears to be individuals or trading rouge training camps that are cheating . I don’t think you should punish a who country for the actions of a few . Even if it’s dozens of cheats , we are still talking about a very small percentage out of the tens of thousands of runners . These are relatively expensive drugs and the overwhelming majority of Kenyan runners can’t afford them
@@georgepower7 And exactly.. the prize money is too tempting not to do it. I recently read that most kenyan pro runners keep a low profile and do road races mostly.. where they can still make enough money to live on and there is next to no testing. Not that even if they did do more testing that that would mean anything.. hgh stays in your system for less than a day and even if you were tested within that same day, you’d have a better chance than not at still passing the test. I bet if the doping agency showed up unannounced at a few of these road races and demanded everyone that was competing had to be tested.. I bet the vast majority of people would just leave.. like what recently happened at a high school track meet in India last year.
Kenya as a country refusing to crack down is them giving their unofficial blessing to dope. They need to be made an example of to preserve the integrity of the sport.. perhaps a decade long ban and no prize money to live on would make them all think twice about cutting corners..
@@darthsilversith667 Kenya is still a developing country and they may not have the resources to crack down effectively. But I do agree that something more drastically must be done by the Kenyan government if for no other reason to save their reputation.
I just don't understand why he was allowed to dope for 7 years
This is a joke!
I was a bad cyclist 12 years ago.... Absolutely everyone was doping without even being professional!
Imagen the tests upside down.... How many can train 20h per week pure zone 2 without completely destroying their complete hormonsystem?
Absolutely no one..... Maximum braindamage and a bananas hypothalamus would still burn out.... 1lbs or even 1kg testies would still not make enough testosterone.
I think we should be polite and give our absolute respect to all world record holders.....
When someone devotes their life like lance armstrong and train 40h per week we should give them the same respect as when haftor bjornson deadlifts 501kg.
It's insane, super cool, and sometimes really dangerous for the athlete and sometimes not. But they all compete enhanched.
We should recognize it and still lift the individual up high..... Otherwise we already have all our wrs from the last 2000 years and its hardly any need to continue any sport at all.
It's a miracle
I bet 10-1 someone helped him do that, made money off him, and then left him holding the bag.
If you don't like PED don't watch pro sports of any kind! I appreciate the sports from what it is...!
Institute immediate lifetime bans and maybe athletes will think twice.
Neem een arm land, waar de mensen genetisch goed gebouwd zijn voor een sport waar veel geld te verdienen valt. Wat denk je dat er gebeurd? Natuurlijk wordt er dirty gespeeld, dit is maar het topje van de ijsberg.
All cheaters should receive LIFETIME bans with retroactive erasing of all of their wins.
Sidebar: 10% of Kenyan top runners die in Car accidents in Kenya.
Total running productions acts atupid as if he doesnt know that most runners are doping. Its just denial to think otherwise
40 tests in 6.5 years. Bro aint being tested at all
"I thought it couldn't get any worse" Why? Surely the evidence and your growing amount of videos with a similar title, would suggest its going to keep getting worse.
The biological passport stuff is good but iffy to me man. Why doesn't he test positive for the EPO then? How does he outsmart the system.
Good question. Not entirely sure but there have been recent reports on new EPO use methods that leave your system faster. Always evolution on abuse and detections. Kind of a game of cat and mouse that never ends
oh that hematocrit does not look good…