Gotta admire Mondo's patience by increasing 1cm a couple of times a year. If I had this level of dominance, I would have jumped 6.40 back in 2020 and foolishly squandered future paychecks 🤣
well, what is worth more to someone.....the money or setting a record that may never be broken again.......he is hoping to do both, but of course, it might not always be possible.......age, injury or death can put a halt to this and prevent us and him from ever knowing what he might have been able to max out for real.......
Got to keep in mind that track athletes get $100k bonus every time they break a world record. So for financial reasons only going up a centimeter at a time is also $100k in his pocket instead of he tried and succeeded by going up a whole 15 centimeters he would be missing out on $1.5 million
@@trevorregay9283it would be better to put a record out there that would be untouchable like 6.35. Who knows what bubka would’ve went for if the extra prize money wasn’t there
Mondo is such a freak athlete, it sucks that his even isn’t as popular as events like the 100m. He deserves a lot of recognition. At least he’s getting popular
His dominance probably does hurt his celebrity. Wahrholm needed Benjamin to propel his popularity beyond just track fans. Mondo’s closest competition is the records of Bubka from 40 years ago.
I like your channel and will continue to subscribe. And I know what you're trying to do with titles. I'd be a little cautious, however, to not mislead people, even unwittingly, by feigning that something incredible happened in track and field, when in effect the only thing that happened was you looking at something that already happened a new way. I get it. There's no track and field events now where anyone can break anything. But it's not cataclysmic in any way when nothing happens other than you finding a way to perceive something that makes it seem more incredible than it was before. That in itself is not news. And nobody just broke anything.
@@dudemanismadcool The thing is, his alternate statistical perspectives are sometimes really interesting. It's just starting in a hole when the outlook itself is portrayed as an actual track and field occurrence. It rings as being disingenuous and even conceited that one would think some uncovered statistical wrinkle is earth-shattering enough to warrant this kind of language. Framed a different way, it's perfectly-fine content.
Good content, ridiculously stupid titles. He takes his audience for a bunch of children who will only click on the flashiest of bullshit titles. Someone should teach him about the boy who cried wolf
I regard click-bait titles as a price of admission for getting good content from TH-cam creators in niche areas who want to make a living with it. They deserve to be compensated for the level of professionalism in the video itself, so I am willing to forgive their titles.
He does this constantly. TRP puts out great content , but I’m so tired (for example) of “this has never been before” and it’s like some junior national SEASONAL (not distance) record. Like an indoor 200m Australian junior high school record. Might be hyperbole but you get the point. And the Matthew boling videos for like 2 years, omg. He was great in high school WE GET IT. But sort of fizzled out as a pro and hasn’t found the same success in 200/400 meters. But still pumps out constant videos about him? I stopped clicking on Matt boling videos a long time ago. Now we will get Gout Gout videos biweekly for months I bet. He’s talented I get it, but maybe just do it for MAJOR milestones.
Mondo and his brother went to the same elementary school as my children and during a track meet I watched those kids run track and I knew there was something special about them. Very athletic. Congrats to Mondo!
Duplantis has won 63 out of 74 finals (outdoors only) in his entire senior career (2019-2024) Sergey Bubka won 141 out of 189 finals (outdoors only) in his entire senior career (1983 to 2000)
2:54 "a score so high that is makes every other score like casual moments". OF COURSE! Your chart starts at 1480 on the y axis, you can make any tiny difference look gigantic with this type of skewed graph! When in fact Duplantis' score is only 4.3% higher that Kipyegon's! Yes, at this level, it is not negligeable and quite impressive, but still... do not be fooled by a deceptive display of numbers.
Hey bro, love the content. Would you ever consider covering ultra running events? Anything above the marathon. I feel like there's untapped potential in that.
Duplantis has won 63 out of 74 pole vault finals in his senior career. He was undefeated the 2020 and 2024 season. Jakob Ingebrigtsen's winning percentages his entire senior career (outdoor) 1500m 19 out of 27 finals Mile: 4 out of 5 finals 3000m: 3 out of 4 finals 5000m: 8 out of 8 finals
What you’re saying about him having jumped 6.3m by now if he wasn’t doing the 1cm increase each jump is a bit inaccurate. If you’ve heard him talk, the highest he’s jumped in training is like 6.1m. The reason why he’s gotten to jump so high is because of the adrenaline of the day and just how well he responds to jumping in front of audience. Like he’s essentially jumping a cm at a time because of the incentives but also because if he misses, he can just go back to the same height without many doubts about his ability. If he did attempt a very high jump and fail(not the typical 1cm increment), he’d probably second guess a lot and be unsure of how much he needs to pull back if at all. The 1cm increase has monetary benefits for when he breaks it but it’s also just a good target to set for yourself because you’re not sure you can go the whole distance all the time.
While that is true, remember that Bubka's performances came at the height of cold war. I mean if we are talking about adrenaline... Bubka's levels were of the chart because it wasn't just about him... it was a clash of empires in every competition. In this conext Mondo's performances are even more special since he has to find that adrenaline rush inside from the pure joy of competing just with himself.
@ i feel like you misunderstood my comment. I’m not downplaying on his impressiveness in even the slightlest. I’m just saying that the fact that people think he’d have jumped a lot higher by now is a misconception. In reality for instance, Mondo knows in his head that he can get to 6.27 with high certainty but as of now he’s less certain about 6.3. My point is that as humans, we’re more geared towards incremental improvements rather than an all at once big jump improvement. Since if we fail at the bigger increments, it messes with our confidence as compared to much smaller increments.
@@benjathemin I understood what you were saying, but I believe it doesn't apply here. If anything it has the opposite effect This event literally incetivizes you to not produce your BEST, but 1 cm more than your previous BEST. The ideea is that maybe Duplantis can jump 6.35 NOW, but maybe by the time he will push the WR at 6.31 , 6.32 he might not be able to jump 6.35m anymore. It was measured he was over 6.3m already a couple of times, but the WR was registered for where the bar was set. These competitions should incetivize athletes to give their best at their peak. Take Usain Bolt for example. I'm sure he could have run under 9.5s in Beijing, but he held back. Which is OK. He broke his own record again in Berlin next year. I'm sure he tried again next years, but he couldn't get the peak he had in Beijing. As far as I am concerned even though Usain Bolt has WR in Berlin, he actually had his peak in 2008. I would love to see Duplantis jump as much as he can, but because he doesn't get anything for breaking the WR by 5-6 cm, I'm afraid we won't.
@@benjathemin Oh yeah! An something else I forgot. When you say he's training at 6.1m.... let's not forget this guy does in training a height that is enough to win gold medals in all competitions :) I mean to do 6.1m is literally vaulting an all time top 10 height (if you take his own jumps out).... in training .... Jesus. Think about it... in the history of this event there's only 2 people besides him that ever jumped over 6.1m... and he is casually doing this in training. In any case, the goal of training is exactly that... to peak at competitions, not in training.
Bubka had the same deal, and did the exakt same thing. He reportedly cleared 6.20 in training, but increased the WR by a centimeter at a time from 5.85 to 6.14. Eventually being to old to jump 6.20 any longer once he got the record to those heights.
Love Mondo who's clearly a generational talent (but Bubka for at least the next 4yr OLY Cycle given his insane longevity from '81 - '01, 7 WC/OLY Golds & 35 WRs is still the PV GOAT imo esp when you consider he couldn't compete @'84 OLY due to the Soviet Boycott & the WC were every 4yrs back then unlike today), but PV has the in-built advantage of being able to break the WR 1cm at a time - making it perfect for Mondo, Bubka & Isinbayeva to collect multiple WRs & related Bonuses! Faith Kipyegon on the other hand not only has elite level range from the 800m to the 5K (possibly 10K & Marathon too eventually), but has broken the 1500m, Mile & 5K WRs winning 10 WC/OLY Medals in the process (7 Golds & 3 Silvers).
Multigenerational talent, son of an olympian, the only way to get this good is to start like Mondo, at age 5 and have the genetics, he probably could break 10 if he focused on it, as his PR is 10.37...the odds of that happening again in the next 50 years are slim to none, and if it does happen, it likely will be due to materials science and not the perfect combination of factors that resulted in Mondo's dominance.
whenever i see or hear anyone saying he is the PV GOAT i always comment about Bubka, like Mondo he did things nobody else did and like u mentioned reigned supreme for 20 yrs, with the changes that have happened to equipment and training i reckon that the only person that could touch Mondo now would be a peak Bubka stolen from time lol now that i would pay good money to see
Longevity is a factor, but how can you call a man a GOAT over another man, when he has absolutely no chance of beating that other man? That to me makes no sense. Bubka wouldn't have stood a hope in hell of beating Mondo. Bubka was probably about the level of Lavillanie.
He is the very definition of dominance. It is rare to have any record holder feathering in this manner because he has NO-ONE near him so is never going greater than 80%.
@@KorZen10 €100 000 is about $100 000, so far from a million dollars per record. And where's the supposed manipulation?? Bubka had the same deal. World records sell tickets to the arenas, it's a win-win. World Athletics would most likely be pretty annoyed if Mondo did 6.35 in 2022 and never set another WR.
@@fulalbatross $1,000,000 because 10 world records. Maybe some people would be annoyed with just setting one record, but way more are annoyed that Mondo isn't going at his full potential. We know he can jump 6.35m, and he's refusing to. Track & Field is always about pushing limits and beating the competition by as much as possible. Ultimately though, it doesn't matter how annoyed people are. He IS breaking the system. Just in a very impressive way that literally only he can do!
Yes you can set it to what you wan't but still you have to jump 6:25 m and no normal jumper puts the bar to 10 cm above their record ever, you push it 1 cm at a time BECAUSE yoo might fail a record try otherwise!
It’s said that Duplantis already jumped up to 6,40 in training. He just wants to get all the money. And I don’t blame him for that. For 100k a record I would do the same.
I think it's faIr to say that Mondo has surpassed Bubka. It will however be very hard to match Bubka in one aspect: World championships golds. Bubka won 6(!) consecutive golds from 1983 to 1997. If there was a 1985 and 1989 world championships (it was hosted every fourth year back in the day, before switching to every second year), Bubka would've likely won those too, making him an 8 time (!) world champion. Mondo so far has 2 golds and one silver in the WC, it will be exciting to see how many he can win.
I’d say Tadej Pogacar in cycling is likely the most dominant athlete in sport at the moment. However, this is impressive. The Zurich meet really puts that in perspective.
Pole vaulting is the only discipline where they can do that. Isinbayeva did 17 WR between 03 and 09 Bubka did 18 WR between 84 and 94 And looking at the charts it's often one athlete just dominating everything.
I believe there was an interview where mondo was asked if he was purposefully increasing by 1cm each vault for the money, and he denied it, saying that he trains extremely hard for each cm, and that he sees each one as a huge accomplishment.
A part of the rankings include athletes who do more than 1 event - and with Lyles winning the 100 and 200 meters in the world champs it raised his score a little bit. Factor his consistency he had in the 200 meters for years and he's been a prime candidate for top numbers
Not really, considering he has lost to only 4 men in the 200m since he's turned pro, won multiple medals and titles at Worlds, World Relays and the Olympics and has been on podium in every World/Olympic event he's taken on since 2019, it makes sense why he is so high up there. For all the things that have happened to Lyles over the years, he is one of the most consistent and well accomplished athletes in the sport currently.
The fact that Femke Bol scored significantly higher than Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone shows the bias this scoring system has against cherry picking events to enter.
@@Magnusfication And yet she's run more in '24 than most of her peers in the 400M/400Mh, Gold medalists... Rai, Quincy Hall, Karsten, Paulino. Be careful of the narratives you latch on to.
The point total in this list has a lot to do with the total number of events you compete in as well as how you perform in each event, so if someone competes way more often than other competitors, but doesn't perform as well, they could still possibly accumulate more points. Now, if you are talking highest average points earned per event competed in, then Sydney would probably be on top of the list for women.
@@spyrit35 Kinda misleading compared to modern times. Back then there were separate records for indoor and outdoor events. While he did break the records under the rules he didn't improve the previous record by 35 cm.
Showing a chart that doesn’t start at zero is an awesome way of increasing someone’s dominance. 😂 To quote Mark Twain: “There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
Take a look at Swimming Short Courses two weeks ago. Gretchen Walsh part of 11 world records in 5 days, smashing some by a ton, might deserve to be in the conversation of best athlete today. Leon Merchon who broke Michael Phelps IM world records this year as well. They don't have the ability to measure a world record so they just beat them by unimaginable margins.
Thank you! 3 generational talents in the world of swimming right now, all very probably owning a better claim to “world dominance” than Mondo (Walsh, Marchand, McIntosh).
Also, Walsh had only competed in SCM 50 fly once before worlds, and she took 5/5 of the best times ever. Half the dominance of Mondo achieved in the span of 90 hours.
I agree with others that Bubka was perhaps the first to play the minimum increment game & ruled the pit for a lot longer. Duplantis would need to keep this up for about twice this long before he gains the title as best ever. Kudos on highlighting him though as he rocks...just don't want to forget the old guys :)
Seems like it would be a lot easier to simply make the payment $100k for each cm they break the record by. So if he cleared it by 5 cm, he gets $500k. It would allow him to truly go for it at every event and not waste his prime.
The fact that his IAAF score is so far ahead of the other athletes only proves to me that the scoring is a great idea, but not waterproof. Hard to compare a polevault record to a marathon one. Besides very talented athlete and I'm curious to see what his limit is
For once, you didn't totally overstate something. Mondo''s dominance is quite remarkable, especially when compared to the only one who could really be considered on a par with him, Crouser. Of course, then there is Sydney, but she will never get their on world rankings.
That number means nothing if they can't retract from it fast enough. Like a high arch in high jump could just be temporary as they can't get out of the position in a way that would clear the bar, so what seems like a huge 6 inch clearance could really be a cm.
this point system is useless, and no one fully understands it. I wish people would stop paying attention to it and all the crazy conclusions drawn from it.
The shame about these incentives to only improve the record by a centimeter is that there will be a day that he is competing when he could actually set his personal best jump and we/he will not know what that personal best is. He needs a real competitor to see what he can actually do.
I love the channel, but man I hate your titles. It's a bit of boy who cried wolf sometimes that I won't watch a video because of how many times I clicked, expected a world record only to realize that not what's going on
Pole vault is among the least popular events not only in T&F but in sports .. sometimes I wonder if this specialty had same popularity as soccer / basketball / or the 100m [drawing thousands of athletes to the competition] .. if the statistics might reflect something different and the margin of duplantis winning would have a different perspective. We will never going to know ...
Well, not a fan, but I guess this dude is just trying to maximize the monetary value associated with how it gets paid out by setting small incrementally on purpose WRs (victim of the system)....I do wish there was someone else who could challenge him so that this slow assault on the PV WR would speed up some.....since, well, when there is no one to challenge him to win 1st place, it allows this nonsense of breaking the WR 1 cm at a time, when this dude could easily be pushing it 4 to 5 more inches (whatever that equates to in CMs) and who knows, might approach the 21 ft height....the problem I have with this purposeful non-maximum breaking of a WR is that this guy could get seriously injured or sick or, heavens forbid die, and we will never know just how high he could have gone in his prime......thats the other thing, by delaying MAXING out every year, he is getting older so at some point, there will come a time when PRIME Mondo might have been able to exceed whatever final WR he ends up posting.....anyway, sorry for the rant, but its stuff like this that is REALLY annoying with some Track and Field athletes.....I equate this to runners who showboat at the end of races, particularly in the sprints.....which I feel at times had they RUN through the tape without looking back or raising the arms and letting up some, that their time could be hundredths better and who knows where that would have landed them on the ALL TIME times.....but the point is, perhaps that opportunity never comes again for them when the moment is just right to run a race or time they will never duplicate again.....I feel like Bolt could have easily run faster times than the ones that currently stand as WRs.....imho.......anyway, my apologies to those who are annoyed with my post....LOL!
I wouldn't worry. He's currently the GOAT of PV but others are studying him and some kid will inevitably turn up and match/beat him. That's the nature of sports and why we love it.
It’s his job though… as much as we like to glorify peak individual performance this is his way of creating stability for his family, something that is ultimately more important
@@postreason oh, I'm NOT blaming him even though it seems that way, as I would, sadly, most likely do the same thing, but I blame it more on the system and the lack of him having any reasonable competition to keep something like this from occurring...LOL! ....the analogy on the Women's side of things is the 400H McLaughlin and the lack of comp for her, however, she is only competing against herself and can't really game the WR setting as much as a person can in the PV event....anyway, I do understand and very well aware of your/this point of view.....
so he's purely mercenary... 100k at a time... i would think he's wise enough to know that injury is possible and could keep him from clearing his absolute maximum potential height whatever that may be... if i were him I'd stop looking for all the paydays and set my sights on setting an insurmountable record that very well might stand for all time... that is the far more important goal for any athlete capable of reaching such an achievement... so... word to the wise... don't take for granted your longevity... go for it all asap... truth.out...
There is some truth to what you say, however, world records are not the only thing that impacts an athletes legacy. World Titles and Olympics titles arguably mean more for reputation, GOAT status, and certainly money/endorsements/appearance fees. Mondo is already head and shoulders above the next best in history, so his status in this respect is set in stone. Whether he ultimately finishes with an all time best of 6.33 when he could have done 6.35 is not going to change that. But when someone eventually comes along and beats his world record (because it will happen eventually), he will be remembered based on WRs, World Titles and Olympic golds. He is playing this game the right way 100%........get the money while you can.
@staceman7981 I disagree... he can set a mark that can stand forever and that guy who goes 6.34 will not claim a record that doesn't belong to him... why shouldn't mondo make that guy have to go 6.36 to top him when 6.35 is the true height to beat...?
@@primoshe2 I don't think its bothering Usain Bolt any. He could have done better in both his events if he actually trained harder. But he set extremely high standards anyways and is considered the very best. Evey though many believe his ceiling was higher.
I like your content, but sure not every single video can be about “absolute greatest bestest super duber oh my god never before seen and will never happen again” 😅
While it is a smart move financially, I can’t help but feel he may be selling his legacy short in a sense. This approach means Duplantis most likely won’t attempt what will become his career best at his peak fitness; once he reaches ~6.40, his best years in terms of how high he can jump by going all out will likely be behind him. Yeah, he’ll have an extra mil or two in bonuses but either way he’s set, monetary wise.
Try explaining the scoring system before you start spitting numbers. Btw, he' s s decent sprinter as well. 10.37 in his recorded race against Wilhelm earlier
Mondo is great but its unfair to compair athletes in sports that have milions of practitioners to a pole vaulter. There are only a few 1000 active jumpers around the world. He's a big fish in a small pond.
Mando Duplantis IS NOT FROM SWEDEN. He was BORN in LOUISIANA and jumped for the LSU TIGERS. His mom has dual citizenship with Sweden and bc the US national team wouldn’t let his dad coach, Mando switched his representation. It’s the biggest flub in sports history. USA dropped the ball on this one.
Gotta admire Mondo's patience by increasing 1cm a couple of times a year. If I had this level of dominance, I would have jumped 6.40 back in 2020 and foolishly squandered future paychecks 🤣
well, what is worth more to someone.....the money or setting a record that may never be broken again.......he is hoping to do both, but of course, it might not always be possible.......age, injury or death can put a halt to this and prevent us and him from ever knowing what he might have been able to max out for real.......
Yea monetary incentives are crazy to go slow. He’ll make 1 million plus easy in 3-4 seasons if he keeps the patience
Got to keep in mind that track athletes get $100k bonus every time they break a world record. So for financial reasons only going up a centimeter at a time is also $100k in his pocket instead of he tried and succeeded by going up a whole 15 centimeters he would be missing out on $1.5 million
@@trevorregay9283it would be better to put a record out there that would be untouchable like 6.35. Who knows what bubka would’ve went for if the extra prize money wasn’t there
Well, pole valut is one of the easiest discipline from this point of view. Bolt could not have ran a WR each time lowering by 1 hunredth of a sec.
And Duplantis topped off his 2024 season with a 100m win over the 400 m hurdle record holder Karsten Warholm.👏🏾👏🏾😎👍🏾
Seriously ? Haha
@ericwong3868 yeah lol. It was widely watched and 10.37 from a non sprinter is pretty nuts lol(other than long jumpers, most are fast)
Mondo is such a freak athlete, it sucks that his even isn’t as popular as events like the 100m. He deserves a lot of recognition. At least he’s getting popular
wouldn't really be a popular event if its just him against himself
His dominance probably does hurt his celebrity. Wahrholm needed Benjamin to propel his popularity beyond just track fans. Mondo’s closest competition is the records of Bubka from 40 years ago.
Someone : You can be anyone you want
Mondo : OK... I want to be the Y axis of the graph.
In our 3d world, wouldn't that be the z axis? Sorry to be that guy lol
@@mojayz3627 The z-axis is forwards and backwards or in and out-the y-axis is still up and down.
xD
Lol that win margin would be as if the second place to Bolts 9.58 would be 10.24 seconds 😅
And it was like 9.8 and he was humiliated 🙄
9.58 x 1.0404 = 9.97 seconds not 10.24 math better plz
Speaking of 100 meters. Funnily enough. Mondo Duplantis runs 100 meters in 10.37. And 100 meters isn't even close to his event.
I like your channel and will continue to subscribe. And I know what you're trying to do with titles. I'd be a little cautious, however, to not mislead people, even unwittingly, by feigning that something incredible happened in track and field, when in effect the only thing that happened was you looking at something that already happened a new way. I get it. There's no track and field events now where anyone can break anything. But it's not cataclysmic in any way when nothing happens other than you finding a way to perceive something that makes it seem more incredible than it was before. That in itself is not news. And nobody just broke anything.
@@dudemanismadcool The thing is, his alternate statistical perspectives are sometimes really interesting. It's just starting in a hole when the outlook itself is portrayed as an actual track and field occurrence. It rings as being disingenuous and even conceited that one would think some uncovered statistical wrinkle is earth-shattering enough to warrant this kind of language. Framed a different way, it's perfectly-fine content.
Good content, ridiculously stupid titles. He takes his audience for a bunch of children who will only click on the flashiest of bullshit titles. Someone should teach him about the boy who cried wolf
I regard click-bait titles as a price of admission for getting good content from TH-cam creators in niche areas who want to make a living with it. They deserve to be compensated for the level of professionalism in the video itself, so I am willing to forgive their titles.
I believe he said he just now did this because the scores barely came out.
He does this constantly. TRP puts out great content , but I’m so tired (for example) of “this has never been before” and it’s like some junior national SEASONAL (not distance) record. Like an indoor 200m Australian junior high school record. Might be hyperbole but you get the point.
And the Matthew boling videos for like 2 years, omg. He was great in high school WE GET IT. But sort of fizzled out as a pro and hasn’t found the same success in 200/400 meters. But still pumps out constant videos about him? I stopped clicking on Matt boling videos a long time ago.
Now we will get Gout Gout videos biweekly for months I bet. He’s talented I get it, but maybe just do it for MAJOR milestones.
Pay the man! He’s the GOAT! He’s setting a bar for everyone else to follow! GREAT STUFF!
Mondo and his brother went to the same elementary school as my children and during a track meet I watched those kids run track and I knew there was something special about them. Very athletic. Congrats to Mondo!
Duplantis has won 63 out of 74 finals (outdoors only) in his entire senior career (2019-2024)
Sergey Bubka won 141 out of 189 finals (outdoors only) in his entire senior career (1983 to 2000)
Cool statistic.
2:54 "a score so high that is makes every other score like casual moments". OF COURSE! Your chart starts at 1480 on the y axis, you can make any tiny difference look gigantic with this type of skewed graph! When in fact Duplantis' score is only 4.3% higher that Kipyegon's! Yes, at this level, it is not negligeable and quite impressive, but still... do not be fooled by a deceptive display of numbers.
He is just on another level!!!
Such a well-spoken, intelligent, and beautiful athlete. Great spokesperson for sport!
breaking WRs casually while holding back is such a cool flex honestly
Bubka did the same, in fact Duplantis has a way to go before matching Bubka's 35 world records.
Bubka broke the the outdoor WR 17 and indoor 18 times. So its not that far away... but yes, Bubka is legendary in this sport.
This guy is a legend😊
Hey bro, love the content. Would you ever consider covering ultra running events? Anything above the marathon. I feel like there's untapped potential in that.
No mention of Marita Koch!! The greatest 👍👍👍
Duplantis has won 63 out of 74 pole vault finals in his senior career. He was undefeated the 2020 and 2024 season.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen's winning percentages his entire senior career (outdoor)
1500m 19 out of 27 finals
Mile: 4 out of 5 finals
3000m: 3 out of 4 finals
5000m: 8 out of 8 finals
What you’re saying about him having jumped 6.3m by now if he wasn’t doing the 1cm increase each jump is a bit inaccurate. If you’ve heard him talk, the highest he’s jumped in training is like 6.1m. The reason why he’s gotten to jump so high is because of the adrenaline of the day and just how well he responds to jumping in front of audience.
Like he’s essentially jumping a cm at a time because of the incentives but also because if he misses, he can just go back to the same height without many doubts about his ability.
If he did attempt a very high jump and fail(not the typical 1cm increment), he’d probably second guess a lot and be unsure of how much he needs to pull back if at all.
The 1cm increase has monetary benefits for when he breaks it but it’s also just a good target to set for yourself because you’re not sure you can go the whole distance all the time.
While that is true, remember that Bubka's performances came at the height of cold war. I mean if we are talking about adrenaline... Bubka's levels were of the chart because it wasn't just about him... it was a clash of empires in every competition.
In this conext Mondo's performances are even more special since he has to find that adrenaline rush inside from the pure joy of competing just with himself.
@ i feel like you misunderstood my comment. I’m not downplaying on his impressiveness in even the slightlest. I’m just saying that the fact that people think he’d have jumped a lot higher by now is a misconception. In reality for instance, Mondo knows in his head that he can get to 6.27 with high certainty but as of now he’s less certain about 6.3. My point is that as humans, we’re more geared towards incremental improvements rather than an all at once big jump improvement. Since if we fail at the bigger increments, it messes with our confidence as compared to much smaller increments.
@@benjathemin I understood what you were saying, but I believe it doesn't apply here. If anything it has the opposite effect
This event literally incetivizes you to not produce your BEST, but 1 cm more than your previous BEST.
The ideea is that maybe Duplantis can jump 6.35 NOW, but maybe by the time he will push the WR at 6.31 , 6.32 he might not be able to jump 6.35m anymore. It was measured he was over 6.3m already a couple of times, but the WR was registered for where the bar was set.
These competitions should incetivize athletes to give their best at their peak.
Take Usain Bolt for example. I'm sure he could have run under 9.5s in Beijing, but he held back. Which is OK. He broke his own record again in Berlin next year. I'm sure he tried again next years, but he couldn't get the peak he had in Beijing. As far as I am concerned even though Usain Bolt has WR in Berlin, he actually had his peak in 2008.
I would love to see Duplantis jump as much as he can, but because he doesn't get anything for breaking the WR by 5-6 cm, I'm afraid we won't.
@@benjathemin Oh yeah! An something else I forgot. When you say he's training at 6.1m.... let's not forget this guy does in training a height that is enough to win gold medals in all competitions :)
I mean to do 6.1m is literally vaulting an all time top 10 height (if you take his own jumps out).... in training .... Jesus.
Think about it... in the history of this event there's only 2 people besides him that ever jumped over 6.1m... and he is casually doing this in training.
In any case, the goal of training is exactly that... to peak at competitions, not in training.
Great insight into why Mondo would only be motivated to raise the bar 1cm at a time!! Wow
Bubka had the same deal, and did the exakt same thing. He reportedly cleared 6.20 in training, but increased the WR by a centimeter at a time from 5.85 to 6.14. Eventually being to old to jump 6.20 any longer once he got the record to those heights.
SENSATIONAL REPORT & REPORTING! Viva Mondo! 🎉🎉🎉
Enjoyed watching Mondo's 2024 performances-hopefully more world records to follow in 2025.
Love Mondo who's clearly a generational talent (but Bubka for at least the next 4yr OLY Cycle given his insane longevity from '81 - '01, 7 WC/OLY Golds & 35 WRs is still the PV GOAT imo esp when you consider he couldn't compete @'84 OLY due to the Soviet Boycott & the WC were every 4yrs back then unlike today), but PV has the in-built advantage of being able to break the WR 1cm at a time - making it perfect for Mondo, Bubka & Isinbayeva to collect multiple WRs & related Bonuses! Faith Kipyegon on the other hand not only has elite level range from the 800m to the 5K (possibly 10K & Marathon too eventually), but has broken the 1500m, Mile & 5K WRs winning 10 WC/OLY Medals in the process (7 Golds & 3 Silvers).
Multigenerational talent, son of an olympian, the only way to get this good is to start like Mondo, at age 5 and have the genetics, he probably could break 10 if he focused on it, as his PR is 10.37...the odds of that happening again in the next 50 years are slim to none, and if it does happen, it likely will be due to materials science and not the perfect combination of factors that resulted in Mondo's dominance.
whenever i see or hear anyone saying he is the PV GOAT i always comment about Bubka, like Mondo he did things nobody else did and like u mentioned reigned supreme for 20 yrs, with the changes that have happened to equipment and training i reckon that the only person that could touch Mondo now would be a peak Bubka stolen from time lol now that i would pay good money to see
Mondo will get there
No, Mondo does not get the bonus of 2 different sets of records for indoor and outdoor pole vault.
Longevity is a factor, but how can you call a man a GOAT over another man, when he has absolutely no chance of beating that other man? That to me makes no sense. Bubka wouldn't have stood a hope in hell of beating Mondo. Bubka was probably about the level of Lavillanie.
He is the very definition of dominance. It is rare to have any record holder feathering in this manner because he has NO-ONE near him so is never going greater than 80%.
One of the least competitive events…..
he really is, not sure if there were any athletes able to casually break WR while holding back, except for Bubka himself maybe
Been waiting for a video recognizing this mans dominace
It is uncanny his natural talent and technical precision. He's probably the fastest pole vaulter ever.
Is it just me or what's with this guy and track and field being completely broken
it's the fact that he's able to manipulate World Athletics into paying him $1,000,000 by not going at his full potential
but yeah, def clickbait title
@@KorZen10 €100 000 is about $100 000, so far from a million dollars per record.
And where's the supposed manipulation?? Bubka had the same deal. World records sell tickets to the arenas, it's a win-win. World Athletics would most likely be pretty annoyed if Mondo did 6.35 in 2022 and never set another WR.
@@fulalbatross $1,000,000 because 10 world records. Maybe some people would be annoyed with just setting one record, but way more are annoyed that Mondo isn't going at his full potential. We know he can jump 6.35m, and he's refusing to. Track & Field is always about pushing limits and beating the competition by as much as possible.
Ultimately though, it doesn't matter how annoyed people are. He IS breaking the system. Just in a very impressive way that literally only he can do!
Yes you can set it to what you wan't but still you have to jump 6:25 m and no normal jumper puts the bar to 10 cm above their record ever, you push it 1 cm at a time BECAUSE yoo might fail a record try otherwise!
It’s said that Duplantis already jumped up to 6,40 in training. He just wants to get all the money. And I don’t blame him for that. For 100k a record I would do the same.
I think it's faIr to say that Mondo has surpassed Bubka. It will however be very hard to match Bubka in one aspect: World championships golds. Bubka won 6(!) consecutive golds from 1983 to 1997. If there was a 1985 and 1989 world championships (it was hosted every fourth year back in the day, before switching to every second year), Bubka would've likely won those too, making him an 8 time (!) world champion. Mondo so far has 2 golds and one silver in the WC, it will be exciting to see how many he can win.
Ur videos r great!!
I’d say Tadej Pogacar in cycling is likely the most dominant athlete in sport at the moment.
However, this is impressive. The Zurich meet really puts that in perspective.
Tadej Pogacar is not an athlete, he is a bike band.
@@foffplease3944How is he not an athlete and some people playing with a ball are?
Wrong slovenian... it's actually janja Garnbret
@@alpd7638 Who’s Janja Garnbret?
@@Tlonedyr he is Tadej Hondacar
Pole vaulting is the only discipline where they can do that.
Isinbayeva did 17 WR between 03 and 09
Bubka did 18 WR between 84 and 94
And looking at the charts it's often one athlete just dominating everything.
I believe there was an interview where mondo was asked if he was purposefully increasing by 1cm each vault for the money, and he denied it, saying that he trains extremely hard for each cm, and that he sees each one as a huge accomplishment.
It's kinda weird that Noah Lyles is so high tbh
A part of the rankings include athletes who do more than 1 event - and with Lyles winning the 100 and 200 meters in the world champs it raised his score a little bit. Factor his consistency he had in the 200 meters for years and he's been a prime candidate for top numbers
Not really, considering he has lost to only 4 men in the 200m since he's turned pro, won multiple medals and titles at Worlds, World Relays and the Olympics and has been on podium in every World/Olympic event he's taken on since 2019, it makes sense why he is so high up there.
For all the things that have happened to Lyles over the years, he is one of the most consistent and well accomplished athletes in the sport currently.
@@TotalRunningProductions100% agree
@@TotalRunningProductions Ok that explains a lot! Thanks for clarifying. Would be great to see Mondo do the 100m as well haha
the guy figured it out
what a chad
The fact that Femke Bol scored significantly higher than Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone shows the bias this scoring system has against cherry picking events to enter.
Sydney run fewer races
@@anthonysavio3875 very, very few races
@@Magnusfication And yet she's run more in '24 than most of her peers in the 400M/400Mh, Gold medalists... Rai, Quincy Hall, Karsten, Paulino. Be careful of the narratives you latch on to.
Not cherry picking it’s actually competing. Bol competed week in and week out.
@@Tadaia comment was referring to femke, not any of those people you named... when youre comparing to femke, yes she ran very few races
The point total in this list has a lot to do with the total number of events you compete in as well as how you perform in each event, so if someone competes way more often than other competitors, but doesn't perform as well, they could still possibly accumulate more points. Now, if you are talking highest average points earned per event competed in, then Sydney would probably be on top of the list for women.
Gout Gout, a 16yo from QLD, Australia will rewrite all the books. He set a 20.04 in the 200m. He's officially faster than Usain at the same age.
Didn't Sergei Bubka do the very same thing in the same event years ago? I could be wrong but I think I remember this.
Just checked... Bubka broke the record 35 times.
Yes. It's kind of funny when people are
not aware that he literally did the exact same thing.
@@spyrit35 Kinda misleading compared to modern times. Back then there were separate records for indoor and outdoor events. While he did break the records under the rules he didn't improve the previous record by 35 cm.
Fun fact: Mondo and Sha'Carri Richardson competed together in the NCAA when they were at LSU
Showing a chart that doesn’t start at zero is an awesome way of increasing someone’s dominance. 😂
To quote Mark Twain:
“There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
its weird that the scoring system rewards this strategy
Take a look at Swimming Short Courses two weeks ago. Gretchen Walsh part of 11 world records in 5 days, smashing some by a ton, might deserve to be in the conversation of best athlete today. Leon Merchon who broke Michael Phelps IM world records this year as well. They don't have the ability to measure a world record so they just beat them by unimaginable margins.
Thank you! 3 generational talents in the world of swimming right now, all very probably owning a better claim to “world dominance” than Mondo (Walsh, Marchand, McIntosh).
Also, Walsh had only competed in SCM 50 fly once before worlds, and she took 5/5 of the best times ever. Half the dominance of Mondo achieved in the span of 90 hours.
Infinite money glitch 😂😂😂😂
what is more amazing is they changed the rules on the pegs making it more difficult to clear heights
Total domination even without any kind of PEDs!
Are you sure??
@pepelopezcrecimientopersonal yes
video starts @ 3:20
I agree with others that Bubka was perhaps the first to play the minimum increment game & ruled the pit for a lot longer. Duplantis would need to keep this up for about twice this long before he gains the title as best ever. Kudos on highlighting him though as he rocks...just don't want to forget the old guys :)
question, maybe for a video. How does the World Ranking Criteria system actually work? i havent seen many explanations on it
A cool extra million in World Records. Smart man
crazy 🤯
Seems like it would be a lot easier to simply make the payment $100k for each
cm they break the record by. So if he cleared it by 5 cm, he gets $500k.
It would allow him to truly go for it at every event and not waste his prime.
Don’t blame him at all for his approach. He’s maximizing the incentives established by the officials of his sport.
The fact that his IAAF score is so far ahead of the other athletes only proves to me that the scoring is a great idea, but not waterproof. Hard to compare a polevault record to a marathon one. Besides very talented athlete and I'm curious to see what his limit is
You should show the whole chart from 0 for context
For once, you didn't totally overstate something. Mondo''s dominance is quite remarkable, especially when compared to the only one who could really be considered on a par with him, Crouser. Of course, then there is Sydney, but she will never get their on world rankings.
At this point couldn't they just set the monetary bonus to $100,000 per centimetre and let the guy retire early.
I wonder how naturally strong he is, he looks so slim. He has to be very strong to be PVer.
Dominance and athlete can only be one person...janja Garnbret
Bro found a money glitch, they’re going to change the rules to avoid paying out 😭
Mondo using infinite money cheats via pure athleticism.
He's a nut.
Why on earth would anyone even consider becoming a pole vaulter???
The paycheck should just be 100k per centimeter, solves ths problem. Maybe throw in a bonus 100k if he breaks it by 5cm
3:40 Since that time no one has jumped higher than 6.07..... Except Mondo who has done it 25!!! times.
Dude has learned from Bubka.
Sometimes they show the difference between their body and the bar. Has anyone seen what would be the actual WR?
I believe that’s more for high jump but it would be around 4.45 meters
Duplantis has high 6.30s easily, if not higher
@@kjford587maybe 6.31
That number means nothing if they can't retract from it fast enough. Like a high arch in high jump could just be temporary as they can't get out of the position in a way that would clear the bar, so what seems like a huge 6 inch clearance could really be a cm.
honest question
how are those points calculated?
Here's a more detailed look - worldathletics.org/world-ranking-rules/basics
He definitely doesn't suck.
this point system is useless, and no one fully understands it. I wish people would stop paying attention to it and all the crazy conclusions drawn from it.
How about the triple jump?
Leave it to a Cajun to game a system…Laissez les bons temps rouler!
Frozen... first to break the comsumptive, abundant TIme.
The shame about these incentives to only improve the record by a centimeter is that there will be a day that he is competing when he could actually set his personal best jump and we/he will not know what that personal best is. He needs a real competitor to see what he can actually do.
Can't believe I waisted 10 min for pole vaulting. Lol
Flo jo was on roids.
I love the channel, but man I hate your titles. It's a bit of boy who cried wolf sometimes that I won't watch a video because of how many times I clicked, expected a world record only to realize that not what's going on
others ceiling is Mondo's floor, not even
🎉🎉🎉
dudududu Max Verstappen
Now worth around $5m....not too shabby.
Have they checked his jumpin stick?
Pole vault is among the least popular events not only in T&F but in sports .. sometimes I wonder if this specialty had same popularity as soccer / basketball / or the 100m [drawing thousands of athletes to the competition] .. if the statistics might reflect something different and the margin of duplantis winning would have a different perspective. We will never going to know ...
Nah, Mondo is him
He needs a clause to give him$100000 per cm so he can go all out and not waste his peak years.
Well, not a fan, but I guess this dude is just trying to maximize the monetary value associated with how it gets paid out by setting small incrementally on purpose WRs (victim of the system)....I do wish there was someone else who could challenge him so that this slow assault on the PV WR would speed up some.....since, well, when there is no one to challenge him to win 1st place, it allows this nonsense of breaking the WR 1 cm at a time, when this dude could easily be pushing it 4 to 5 more inches (whatever that equates to in CMs) and who knows, might approach the 21 ft height....the problem I have with this purposeful non-maximum breaking of a WR is that this guy could get seriously injured or sick or, heavens forbid die, and we will never know just how high he could have gone in his prime......thats the other thing, by delaying MAXING out every year, he is getting older so at some point, there will come a time when PRIME Mondo might have been able to exceed whatever final WR he ends up posting.....anyway, sorry for the rant, but its stuff like this that is REALLY annoying with some Track and Field athletes.....I equate this to runners who showboat at the end of races, particularly in the sprints.....which I feel at times had they RUN through the tape without looking back or raising the arms and letting up some, that their time could be hundredths better and who knows where that would have landed them on the ALL TIME times.....but the point is, perhaps that opportunity never comes again for them when the moment is just right to run a race or time they will never duplicate again.....I feel like Bolt could have easily run faster times than the ones that currently stand as WRs.....imho.......anyway, my apologies to those who are annoyed with my post....LOL!
I wouldn't worry. He's currently the GOAT of PV but others are studying him and some kid will inevitably turn up and match/beat him. That's the nature of sports and why we love it.
Why would you wish for history to be sped up? This likely won’t happen again for a long time. Enjoy the show.
It’s his job though… as much as we like to glorify peak individual performance this is his way of creating stability for his family, something that is ultimately more important
@@postreason oh, I'm NOT blaming him even though it seems that way, as I would, sadly, most likely do the same thing, but I blame it more on the system and the lack of him having any reasonable competition to keep something like this from occurring...LOL! ....the analogy on the Women's side of things is the 400H McLaughlin and the lack of comp for her, however, she is only competing against herself and can't really game the WR setting as much as a person can in the PV event....anyway, I do understand and very well aware of your/this point of view.....
Mondo is just different
so he's purely mercenary... 100k at a time... i would think he's wise enough to know that injury is possible and could keep him from clearing his absolute maximum potential height whatever that may be... if i were him I'd stop looking for all the paydays and set my sights on setting an insurmountable record that very well might stand for all time... that is the far more important goal for any athlete capable of reaching such an achievement... so... word to the wise... don't take for granted your longevity... go for it all asap... truth.out...
There is some truth to what you say, however, world records are not the only thing that impacts an athletes legacy. World Titles and Olympics titles arguably mean more for reputation, GOAT status, and certainly money/endorsements/appearance fees. Mondo is already head and shoulders above the next best in history, so his status in this respect is set in stone. Whether he ultimately finishes with an all time best of 6.33 when he could have done 6.35 is not going to change that. But when someone eventually comes along and beats his world record (because it will happen eventually), he will be remembered based on WRs, World Titles and Olympic golds. He is playing this game the right way 100%........get the money while you can.
@staceman7981 I disagree... he can set a mark that can stand forever and that guy who goes 6.34 will not claim a record that doesn't belong to him... why shouldn't mondo make that guy have to go 6.36 to top him when 6.35 is the true height to beat...?
@@primoshe2 I don't think its bothering Usain Bolt any. He could have done better in both his events if he actually trained harder. But he set extremely high standards anyways and is considered the very best. Evey though many believe his ceiling was higher.
@staceman7981 and he'll regret it later if someone eclipses him...
That's how pole vaulters get paid
Yes faith is good
This is weird, brcause he broke the record by 1cm each time, to collect the world record bonus. It was for the bonus.
I like your content, but sure not every single video can be about “absolute greatest bestest super duber oh my god never before seen and will never happen again” 😅
While it is a smart move financially, I can’t help but feel he may be selling his legacy short in a sense. This approach means Duplantis most likely won’t attempt what will become his career best at his peak fitness; once he reaches ~6.40, his best years in terms of how high he can jump by going all out will likely be behind him. Yeah, he’ll have an extra mil or two in bonuses but either way he’s set, monetary wise.
He’s still so young
Try explaining the scoring system before you start spitting numbers. Btw, he' s s decent sprinter as well. 10.37 in his recorded race against Wilhelm earlier
Pole vaulting has nothing to do with track…. Let’s just add ping pong while we’re at it…
Mondo is great but its unfair to compair athletes in sports that have milions of practitioners to a pole vaulter. There are only a few 1000 active jumpers around the world. He's a big fish in a small pond.
the only thing that comes to mind when you mention Michael Johnson is Donovan Bailey
Mando Duplantis IS NOT FROM SWEDEN. He was BORN in LOUISIANA and jumped for the LSU TIGERS. His mom has dual citizenship with Sweden and bc the US national team wouldn’t let his dad coach, Mando switched his representation. It’s the biggest flub in sports history. USA dropped the ball on this one.
You really need to learn some new words other than "broke" and "broken".
new roids is the answer. thank me later
flojo on the sauce tho