Used this underwater to attach my sail boat to it's buoy, it stayed put for a year of rocking and bobbing and was still easy to undo. 10/10 would recommand.
I’ve been climbing for decades. Today I learned something new. Thank you. I did learn the bowline finished with a safety overhand to prevent the described loosening problem. But I do like this version much better and will incorporate it into my practice and teaching. Thank you.
Only just seen this video. At long last - the EBSB+yosemite! I've been using it for indoor climbing & trad for years. Not mentioned are the facts that: It is stable under cross loading, unlike the Fo8. Three strands through the nipping loop increase its radius of curvature and hence its MBS yield. It will even survive the notorious Yosemite F___ up, you know, where the loop positions get reversed. With this knot, remove the last tuck and it's still safe. It also has a distinctive and attractive appearance which makes it easy to recognise. That said, I still teach the Fo8 + stopper knot tie-on to beginners, simply because it's the entrenched orthodoxy and some indoor centres insist on it.
Ya know they say that the figure 8 is easier to check but I think the EBSB is. Front: 2 (lines)together, 2 together. Back: 2 apart, 2 apart. And it’s absolutely bomber.
This knot is amazing! I've been using it for about 2 years of regular sports climbing, and there's no going back for me :) it's way faster to tie and untie compared to other climbing knots. And for this one not at the cost of safety! The only disadvantage I see, is that it is a little trickier to check, whether tied correctly.
I like this variation a lot as it is easily distinguishable, especially from the rear, something I have found to be a common theme among bowlines in my quest to learn the myriad of bowline variations.
On channel "hard is easy" theres a test of figure 8 loop. If you tie it so the loaded rope goes closer to center and the end of the rope is on the outside, its always possible to untie after hard shock load.
Even when tied correctly (with the standing end looping closer to the center, as you described), a retraced figure-8 knot is much harder to untie after being loaded then a locked bowline (my favorite version is the Scott's Locked Bowline). Give it a try!
@@jdecicco91 yes, the Scott's Locked Bowline is my favorite tie-in knot, I use it the vast majority of the times. I uploaded a video on how to tie it a while ago, check it out :-)
You need to do a song so that we all can remember how to tie it. Here is my SONG. There was once a depressed bowline worm Whose is depressed so the downside is looking down. I talk to it and it looked down, looks towards me and then looked up. Then there was a hole next to the tree trunk. The bowline worm went around the bucket(this is the load we are trying to tie) and up the hole and behind the tree trunk and back into the hole again. Then to secure it's happiness, it came up and around the load and down the hole again and up again following the tree trunk. Then the bowline worm dress itself and it felt much much more secure.
You should check out HowNOT2 channel, I really think you’d like their content particularly the slack snap and drop tower they use to test breaking strength of knots and gear
Thank you for all the tips! I was using the Scott's locked bowline until now, that I also learned here, but I will definitely use this one now. What do you think about this knot with a Scott's locked instead of the Yosemite finish? Do you think it would be safe?
late reply but the figure 8 is not the "most" secure climbing knot. it is an inherently secure knot, meaning it does not need a backup knot in order to be secure. but there are four inherently secure bowlines, the ebsb being one of them. the others are scott's locked bowline, lee's locked bowline, and harry butler's yosemite finish bowline. each of these four are inherently secure knots and thus are just as safe and secure as the figure 8.
🐇The rabbit goes through the hole, around the tree, and back through the hole. There's a glitch in the matrix, the rabbit goes around the tree and through the hole again. The rabbit then follows the roots back up to the trunk. 🐇
Used this underwater to attach my sail boat to it's buoy, it stayed put for a year of rocking and bobbing and was still easy to undo. 10/10 would recommand.
*its buoy
Damn, can't get a better review than that!
I’ve been climbing for decades. Today I learned something new. Thank you.
I did learn the bowline finished with a safety overhand to prevent the described loosening problem. But I do like this version much better and will incorporate it into my practice and teaching. Thank you.
I didn’t think I would ever be able to teach you a new knot. You’re pretty knowledgeable when it comes to working a rope.
Only just seen this video. At long last - the EBSB+yosemite! I've been using it for indoor climbing & trad for years. Not mentioned are the facts that:
It is stable under cross loading, unlike the Fo8.
Three strands through the nipping loop increase its radius of curvature and hence its MBS yield.
It will even survive the notorious Yosemite F___ up, you know, where the loop positions get reversed. With this knot, remove the last tuck and it's still safe.
It also has a distinctive and attractive appearance which makes it easy to recognise. That said, I still teach the Fo8 + stopper knot tie-on to beginners, simply because it's the entrenched orthodoxy and some indoor centres insist on it.
Ya know they say that the figure 8 is easier to check but I think the EBSB is. Front: 2 (lines)together, 2 together. Back: 2 apart, 2 apart. And it’s absolutely bomber.
Masterclass - Sharing your time is priceless. Thank you very much, sir.
This knot is amazing! I've been using it for about 2 years of regular sports climbing, and there's no going back for me :) it's way faster to tie and untie compared to other climbing knots. And for this one not at the cost of safety!
The only disadvantage I see, is that it is a little trickier to check, whether tied correctly.
I like this variation a lot as it is easily distinguishable, especially from the rear, something I have found to be a common theme among bowlines in my quest to learn the myriad of bowline variations.
You may want to take a look at "Harry Butler's Yosemite Bowline" and "Alan Lee’s Yosemite Bowline" as well.
On channel "hard is easy" theres a test of figure 8 loop. If you tie it so the loaded rope goes closer to center and the end of the rope is on the outside, its always possible to untie after hard shock load.
That is a neat channel. His videos are addictive
Even when tied correctly (with the standing end looping closer to the center, as you described), a retraced figure-8 knot is much harder to untie after being loaded then a locked bowline (my favorite version is the Scott's Locked Bowline). Give it a try!
@@DavideFossati thanks for the tip! Seem to work pretty good. One of the better ones.
@@DavideFossati do you tie in with a Scott’s locked bowline?
@@jdecicco91 yes, the Scott's Locked Bowline is my favorite tie-in knot, I use it the vast majority of the times. I uploaded a video on how to tie it a while ago, check it out :-)
Thanks for the video! How is that more effective than the scott's bowline, which seems easier to thread?
Probably isn't! so long as you did your chosen knot correctly, I can't see why we need to keep over-complicating the matter of knots
Does anyone else hear this guys voice in their head when they’re tying knots lol
Thank you for your clear explanations!
2:15 example begins.
You need to do a song so that we all can remember how to tie it. Here is my SONG.
There was once a depressed bowline worm Whose is depressed so the downside is looking down. I talk to it and it looked down, looks towards me and then looked up. Then there was a hole next to the tree trunk. The bowline worm went around the bucket(this is the load we are trying to tie) and up the hole and behind the tree trunk and back into the hole again. Then to secure it's happiness, it came up and around the load and down the hole again and up again following the tree trunk. Then the bowline worm dress itself and it felt much much more secure.
Lol, that’s unique. I like it.
"Bowline worm" 😂
Thanks
Can one find this bowline in Ashly book of knots? What nr? How long end tail it likes?
No, this is a modern variant.
You should check out HowNOT2 channel, I really think you’d like their content particularly the slack snap and drop tower they use to test breaking strength of knots and gear
I will, thanks for the heads up.
That's a great channel!
Good job!
Hello! I have enjoyed watching your channel over the years.
Thank you for all the tips! I was using the Scott's locked bowline until now, that I also learned here, but I will definitely use this one now. What do you think about this knot with a Scott's locked instead of the Yosemite finish? Do you think it would be safe?
Zepplin loops are secure and will not rattle free. Is there a reason it is not used?
More complicated to tie.
late reply but the figure 8 is not the "most" secure climbing knot. it is an inherently secure knot, meaning it does not need a backup knot in order to be secure. but there are four inherently secure bowlines, the ebsb being one of them. the others are scott's locked bowline, lee's locked bowline, and harry butler's yosemite finish bowline. each of these four are inherently secure knots and thus are just as safe and secure as the figure 8.
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You'r video is good
🐇The rabbit goes through the hole, around the tree, and back through the hole. There's a glitch in the matrix, the rabbit goes around the tree and through the hole again. The rabbit then follows the roots back up to the trunk. 🐇
Why not use Yosemite combined with double fisherman's bend to secure the tail It's more simple.
Thanks, I am sure it performs well, but it is way too complex. Scott's Bowline is the one for now.
I prefer Scott's Locked Bowline th-cam.com/video/Qzh7kJ8k5lA/w-d-xo.html IMO, it is more secure and easier to tie.