I shoot these 300 spine 28” with ethics insert outsert cut to 150 grains with 125 grain tip 508-509 grains 21.5% foc and they hammer whitetails and hogs. I blew through a 125 lb hog and penetrated deep enough into the second hog to stop in its hart. Busted a rib on both.
@@extremeoutfitters so far they have exceeded my expectations. Easy to tune and I have not broke one yet. The biggest thing I have noticed is with the high foc compared to a heavier gpi arrow with 13% foc is how far they move my block target every shot. It’s obvious that they dump a lot more energy into the target.
I have the target version of this arrow shaft, the 3DHV, to be used for unmarked 3D shoots at distances between 20 and 52 yards, however I think I may need to go back to the drawing board on them since I was only getting 262fps out of them when shot from my Supra RTX 40 SE bow at 56lbs and a DL of 29.5". I have the 350 spine and had them cut to 30" and fitted with Victory's full 150gn point. Any distance miscalculation at long ranges was punished with a hit way below where I was aiming. Cutting them and taking weight off the point has made them much lighter but they don't seem to group as good now so I'm thinking of going down to the 400 spine shaft, which is lighter. Coupled with the lighter weight point, it should help me regain some speed.
I shot these for 3d and tac last year, I like them but they aren't strong. If you hit anything that isn't the target they'll probably break. I even had one break in a 3d target on quartering away shot. All that being said, they're light and fly flat so I'll keep running them.
Been looking at these for an EFOC build, 30%ish FOC. Anyone try this with these, it'll but me around 630ish grain total arrow weight. 26.5" draw 70#s. Tree stand and blind within 25 yards tops Bones are only there to break, said some smart guy from the 1200's (I'm guessing lol) Idk seen a kid shot a similar arrow build and it looked like it was shot by a high powered rifle but with a broadhead, blew through 1 shoulder bone (the knuckle not scapula) and then broke a the scapula in multiple peices, literally blew straight through this deer. I hear people say it's impossible but I've seen it with my own eyes. Definitely made me want to switch my arrow setup, it amazes me that people were killing deer way before compounds shooting under 200fps. And I really want to go higher and go single bevel or double because I had to pass on a few deer because I didn't have confidence with the mechanical broadhead with the shot angles I was given in the woods, I dont like that being limited to my broadhead and arrow setup. Current 434grain with sevr 280fps, yea broadside I'm golden but what about when the deer don't give you that broadside opportunity, do yall ask then nicely to turn or what, or do you let it fly and hope for the best?
You are adding way to much foc. It should be no more than 10 and when u go more than that the arrow will do a noise dive instead of flying straight My vap 250 running 3 bowings vans 50 grain insert and 100 gr wa cum head running 9.7 425 grain arrow and out to 100 yds flys flat. Gary d fike
@@barrelmaker3930 same weight the lower FOC loses its energy faster. There is a lot of data on this that a higher FOC is more stable until you go far beyond the 20% range. If you look at what is recommended for hunting 16% and higher is for hunting builds and below that is for target builds. Gary is simply wrong in his assessment and his build would be ok for target but bad for hunting.
@@tray22I'm interested in the data you're talking about could you DM me a link? I've been talking to a few local guys about weight, foc, ect and no one seems to have much solid data for their claims
Planning to use these in 250 spine with 146 (125+21) up front on my 83lb mach 34 for tac. Gonna be goated
Been a pretty good arrow for me shooting out to 100+. Running 165 up front , 3 aae max stealth on back. Getting about 17% foc and 375g arrow.
I shoot these 300 spine 28” with ethics insert outsert cut to 150 grains with 125 grain tip 508-509 grains 21.5% foc and they hammer whitetails and hogs. I blew through a 125 lb hog and penetrated deep enough into the second hog to stop in its hart. Busted a rib on both.
Sounds solid man!
@@extremeoutfitters so far they have exceeded my expectations. Easy to tune and I have not broke one yet. The biggest thing I have noticed is with the high foc compared to a heavier gpi arrow with 13% foc is how far they move my block target every shot. It’s obvious that they dump a lot more energy into the target.
@@billylee2312EXACTLY!!!
I have the target version of this arrow shaft, the 3DHV, to be used for unmarked 3D shoots at distances between 20 and 52 yards, however I think I may need to go back to the drawing board on them since I was only getting 262fps out of them when shot from my Supra RTX 40 SE bow at 56lbs and a DL of 29.5". I have the 350 spine and had them cut to 30" and fitted with Victory's full 150gn point. Any distance miscalculation at long ranges was punished with a hit way below where I was aiming. Cutting them and taking weight off the point has made them much lighter but they don't seem to group as good now so I'm thinking of going down to the 400 spine shaft, which is lighter. Coupled with the lighter weight point, it should help me regain some speed.
I’m considering these arrows for an outdoor target bow, I’ve heard guys say they’re not very durable. Any feedback on how much abuse they’ll take?
I shot these for 3d and tac last year, I like them but they aren't strong. If you hit anything that isn't the target they'll probably break. I even had one break in a 3d target on quartering away shot. All that being said, they're light and fly flat so I'll keep running them.
Wonder if the 250 being higher GPI are a tad stronger?
@@kristian_bar you’re probably 100% right, but if you take it too far, then you’re begin to defeat the point of having a really light arrow.
RIP XV = 346 grains. 60# pull on Mathews Lift 29.5; 295 fps.
What’s your draw length?
@@Bry_nlch 28.5"
@@pfknob I need to get a chrono. I shoot 60-70# at a 27” draw with lighter weight arrows and I’ve always been curious.
Been looking at these for an EFOC build, 30%ish FOC. Anyone try this with these, it'll but me around 630ish grain total arrow weight. 26.5" draw 70#s. Tree stand and blind within 25 yards tops
Bones are only there to break, said some smart guy from the 1200's (I'm guessing lol)
Idk seen a kid shot a similar arrow build and it looked like it was shot by a high powered rifle but with a broadhead, blew through 1 shoulder bone (the knuckle not scapula) and then broke a the scapula in multiple peices, literally blew straight through this deer. I hear people say it's impossible but I've seen it with my own eyes. Definitely made me want to switch my arrow setup, it amazes me that people were killing deer way before compounds shooting under 200fps. And I really want to go higher and go single bevel or double because I had to pass on a few deer because I didn't have confidence with the mechanical broadhead with the shot angles I was given in the woods, I dont like that being limited to my broadhead and arrow setup. Current 434grain with sevr 280fps, yea broadside I'm golden but what about when the deer don't give you that broadside opportunity, do yall ask then nicely to turn or what, or do you let it fly and hope for the best?
You are adding way to much foc. It should be no more than 10 and when u go more than that the arrow will do a noise dive instead of flying straight
My vap 250 running 3 bowings vans 50 grain insert and 100 gr wa cum head running 9.7 425 grain arrow and out to 100 yds flys flat. Gary d fike
Nice!
So if you have 2 arrows with the exact same total weight but one has 10% foc and the other 20%. Who falls faster or "dives" faster?
@@barrelmaker3930 same weight the lower FOC loses its energy faster. There is a lot of data on this that a higher FOC is more stable until you go far beyond the 20% range. If you look at what is recommended for hunting 16% and higher is for hunting builds and below that is for target builds. Gary is simply wrong in his assessment and his build would be ok for target but bad for hunting.
@@tray22I'm interested in the data you're talking about could you DM me a link? I've been talking to a few local guys about weight, foc, ect and no one seems to have much solid data for their claims