My Perfect Arrow Build!! I Red Arrow

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  • Let's talk the perfect arrow set up boys & girls!! Here is my "I can shoot just about anything set up" and some thoughts on the perfect arrow build!!
    Bow: Hoyt Ventum
    Arrow: Victory Archery RIP TKO
    Broadhead: G5 Megameat [also shoot Deadmeat & Montec]
    Lighted Nock: Lumenok X Nock
    Vanes: TAC Vanes
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  • @Loganthehunter11
    @Loganthehunter11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tbone and you both have great outlooks on this subject! I started shooting a super light and underspined arrow (400 spine,400 gr), then went full Ashby with a 610 grain setup for a year. With the light arrow I had trouble tuning and wasn’t happy with penetration, with the heavy setup I had great penetration, but my pin gaps were nuts!! Now I find myself at 500 grains with 16% FOC and love it!!! As for broadheads, I’ll never stop shooting my fixed single bevels because I enjoy the toughness and ability to sharpen them, but the G5 expandables look well put together and foolproof. I think that middle ground at 475-525gr with around 15% FOC is perfect for most folks.

  • @1Whitetail
    @1Whitetail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I agree with you Kip. I really don't know how SOME of these big names hunters can misjudged the range when you can hear someone telling them the distance BUT they can. Your tops to the real hunters.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate your support brother!

  • @mikemcgill3998
    @mikemcgill3998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very interesting. I'll check back later for all know it all studs out there. The light weight studs and the heavy weight studs. There seems to be a BIG BUZZ going around in Archery right now. It cracks me up! Shoot what you want. "Celebrity" hunters don't determine what's in my quiver.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nor should they! Shoot what works best for you brother!!

  • @usernamehere6061
    @usernamehere6061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent take! Unbiased and didn't come at it from an emotional standpoint like a lot of others do LOL. I agree with you Kip thanks for the endless content man!

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir! Just keeping it real and telling y'all what works for me!

  • @tylercarder581
    @tylercarder581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've watched a lot of your videos, and damn near every shot you get a complete pass through. I would love to see someone argue with your testing. Great Channel.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support! We get a lot of keyboard warriors on our posts regardless of what it is, but that comes with the territory. We just keep on huntin'!!

  • @michaeldouglas1243
    @michaeldouglas1243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree 100% I've always stayed in middle and leaned towards upper half of middle give or take which hoyt setup I'm using. And I have never had an issue. Kills speak for themselves. Great video. 👍

    • @michaeldouglas1243
      @michaeldouglas1243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Another coincidence, before I saw u went to G5 this year, I also had switched to dead meats. Lol

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The G5 broadheads are legit!!

  • @jonathanharpe4333
    @jonathanharpe4333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are very accurate about your statement. I’m definitely in the middle. I think. 15% +/- 3% is a good range to shoot for. Many don’t realize heavy Arrow emphasis came from a time when bows were less tunable

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Always shoot what's comfortable and what you're confident in! Good luck on your hunts!

  • @clintwalker7690
    @clintwalker7690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have shot 17 to 22 percent FOC for years. I started paying attention to FOC 25 years ago. I shot traditional archery. It. Works on a compound too. I am all ABOUT accuracy. We can do almost anything we want to with an arrow today. I don't care what other people shoot. I shoot what minimizes my tracking.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like that strategy!!

  • @wvbowhunter1
    @wvbowhunter1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the video. Explanation was awesome and enough self awareness that not all hunters will shoot the same arrow! Good luck this year

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would be boring if we all shot the same set up haha!! Good luck on your hunts!!

  • @drewsroo
    @drewsroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Both I and a friend went real heavy last year. Over 630 grains and 20% foc. We both backed off to the mid to upper 500s this year and around 18% foc after we both realized what we had was way overkill for whitetail. Good video. The only thing I disagree vehemently with is those razor blades on the front of that thing. I would hate to hit shoulder blade or humerus by accident with one of those and hope for a decent outcome.
    But...in the end, that's my opinion. Wish people wouldn't get so riled up.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We don't get riled up when it comes to people not having the exact same set up as we do! Everyone should shoot a set up their confident in and we should support that! What riles us up, is someone coming at us for shooting something they wouldn't shoot, or just trolling on our page just to try to get a response (not saying this is you - just in general!). People have killed deer with lots of different arrow & broadhead setups - honestly more on the hunter than it is the broadhead in most cases!!!

  • @miltonsmith8418
    @miltonsmith8418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good on you Kip,
    That would have to be the best explanation on an arrow that l have ever herd.
    Troy the Ranch Fairy may have something to say about that..
    F.O.C
    sick of hereing about it. Yes l believe its in the speed of the arrow so it doesn't drop so much.
    Cheers..

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just keeping it real and telling y'all what works for us!

  • @tracyhumphries3545
    @tracyhumphries3545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great educational video! Very informative. As always.

  • @officerfoxtrot3633
    @officerfoxtrot3633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This year I went 250 total up front, 625 total weight, 14.5% FOC on the 300 spine day six HD’s. 29”@70#’s Bowtech rpm 360.
    I’m trying two broadheads: Iron Will Wide Solid 150’s, and Magnus killer Bee 150 (no bleeder). I tried a magnus at 10 on a fresh roadkill buck, arrow deflected heavy and stayed in the animal, but did make two holes. I was more impressed with the iron will, but didn’t want to waste one with the factory edge before season (my stay sharp guide wasn’t in yet.) flight is good on both out to 70.
    If this setup doesn’t impress me, I’m going “full Ashby” next year. I primarily hunt white tails and turkeys, but have an opportunity for elk and possibly moose in the next couple years. I want a setup I can build confidence with now so when it happens I don’t have to scramble and hope. It will be proven.
    The setup next year would be 370 total up front on a 250 Sirius Orion Micro Shaft. 3” custom Batwing Feathers, rabbit fur tracer, regular nock. It should come out to around 655 grains with 24.2% FOC. Around 250-260 fps. For broadheads, I’ll make a golf bag containing the following:
    Iron Will Wide Solid 200
    Iron Will Single Bevel 200 no bleeder
    Tuffhead Meathead Classic w/ Glue on Adapter
    VPA 3 Blade Traditional 300 Grain
    Valkyrie JagerBomb 350 w/ center pin system
    Bishop 315 Single Bevel
    For Turkeys and coyotes:
    Crossbreed Elite 100 grain adapter with Simmons Tree Shark 190 grain
    Crossbreed Elite 100 Grain adapter with VPA Turkey Spur 150
    Schwacker 150 3” and Crossbreed elite 100 Grain Adapter
    The inserts will vary by weight and all the arrows will be equal or as near equal as possible.
    I know it’s overkill for Missouri Whitetails, but I should be able to kill anything from turkeys to deer to hogs to moose and bear.

    • @davehalm7362
      @davehalm7362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smart man👊I went heavy this year and have crushed the 2 I've killed so far. I'm shooting Victory VAP SS Elite 250's with GrizzlyStick 315 Alaskan broadheads and a 50 gr outsert. Those are coming in at a total of 695 gr. I also have Victory Extortion 300's with the same broadhead and outsert coming in at 747 gr. All variables have been eliminated for sure. Know your bow and you will know your trajectory simple as that. For shots 30 yards and in they will certainly get the job done and done quick. Glad to see someone else has gotten wise. Good luck brotha!

    • @tylerisbell6916
      @tylerisbell6916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m shooting 512 grains at 17% foc and I have shot through both front shoulders and the arrow still buried up 4” in the ground

    • @officerfoxtrot3633
      @officerfoxtrot3633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylerisbell6916 nice!

    • @officerfoxtrot3633
      @officerfoxtrot3633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davehalm7362 clearance with my spot hawg fast Eddie xl gives me around 70-80 yards range With my setup now at 625 grains. I’m sure I’ll still be in the neighborhood of that with 650’s. If I have to go up to a 200 spine Orion, the same front end will come in at 22.4% FOC right around 700 grains. I’d prefer to stay in the 650 area for speed/trajectory, but if I have to bump it up I will.
      I’m comfortable hitting a whitetail out to 60 and have been comfortable with targets to 120 in the past. I just like to know my broadheads are good and on target well past my intended range for an emergency second arrow or finishing arrow if need be.
      And most of the areas I focus bowhunting are 40 yards and in due to brush, but I can still hunt edges of agricultural fields and have extended ranges. So I kinda need to have an arrow that can reach out but is deadly everywhere I could be at.

    • @davehalm7362
      @davehalm7362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@officerfoxtrot3633 Niice! Every situation is different for sure. Just as evreyones deerwoods are different. Wish folks would stop the heavy arrow bashing. I think a lot of the TV guys are scared to admit that for certain situations you can't go wrong with going heavy. Some of the so called Profession Hunters (whatever and the Hell that means) are so worried about losing the free shit from their sponsors if they say hey try this. Notice he didn't answer the question about the Afflictor broadheads.....Hmmmm? And finally Physics scares the Hell outta people 😂

  • @JimmyBeanz13
    @JimmyBeanz13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I miss your commercials!!! They were the best! I ditched cable this year...hope all is well!!!

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We've got all of our commercials here on our TH-cam channel!! Check out the "commercials" playlist!!

  • @raybship1
    @raybship1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    People always go to extremes ! I made a 530 gr. 5mm axis 16 to 17% FOC with a lighted nock. Its shoots perfect farther than I can and most of my shots here in the north woods are 25 yards at the most. Good luck this season

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - good luck on your hunts too!

  • @willeypoboy5607
    @willeypoboy5607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I shoot white tail does.....I don't horn hunt anymore because my boss won't let me hang another mount! I'm ok with it. But I eat venison. I shoot 2 bows. A 2000 PSE Durango and a 2009 Matthew's switch back xt. Killing machine's. I can out run both! Over many years I've found the perfect whitetail doe arrow for both. Great videshow!

  • @WildBushGrit
    @WildBushGrit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The heavy vs light debate happens in hunting rifle circles too, some uses a 300WM... while some uses a 30-30. I agree with you the answer often lies in the balance point between the extreme. But the only way to know is to experience it.

  • @WeekendPursuitOutdoors
    @WeekendPursuitOutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I shoot the same arrow! I used the 50 grain outserts and 100 grain SWAT JUGGERNAUT broadhead. Mine come in at 450-455 grains! The arrows fly awesome! Defiantly can't wait to try this set up out of my 70 lb Monster Chill X on a big whitetail!

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck on your hunts!!

  • @dwightpickens2895
    @dwightpickens2895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the information

  • @fisherman_rue2403
    @fisherman_rue2403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff. I'll piggy back this example on the give and take you mention.
    "You should always use the heaviest arrow possible that has a trajectory that you still find acceptable." - Ashby, The Penetration Enhancing Factors
    That arrows trajectory is acceptable to you, use it! Kill stuff. Have fun!

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! Gotta shoot what works best for each person!!

  • @nicholaslombardi4533
    @nicholaslombardi4533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lets see the rest of that room

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will need to do a tour with the camera one time!!

  • @paulwakefield1015
    @paulwakefield1015 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really well said on the trade off

  • @underwoodoutdoors7665
    @underwoodoutdoors7665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m seventeen shooting seventy pounds and I’m shooting four hundred and something grains don’t remember off the top of my head but so far it works amazing

  • @fnulnu7999
    @fnulnu7999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kip, would love to see some of your autopsy results on the show. It’s something I know a lot of guys are interested in

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We will take that into consideration for sure!!

  • @robertjones629
    @robertjones629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let bring up the old days eastons xx75 and 78s with 5" feather shooting thunderheads... i had a overdraw on my pse.... those days sucked ass tuning an arrow. Turning arrows with all the options we have is so much easier these days.... 361 grain arrow 65 lbs im driving tacks with my xpedite. I had the similar setup with my full throttle and it was driving tack. My arrow configuration i also switched to the tac vane and wrap and went to the deadmeat. 28 years bowhunting you know what works for you.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! Good luck on your hunts!

  • @ianmcgaughey1
    @ianmcgaughey1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's your sweet spot. Shoot as heavy an arrow possible white maintaining a speed of 260-280. That window is going to give you the best trajectory and best fixed broadhead flight so if you do misjudge a distance, it's still a kill shot.

  • @ericwolbert3256
    @ericwolbert3256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with most things you have said. But I believe 2 holes are always better than one huge hole! I really good fix blade is hard to beat in my opinion.. Archery comes down in what u have confidence in!

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your last sentence is what most people forget!!

  • @CalebSmith87
    @CalebSmith87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mega meat is good but if we're talking mechanical, grim reaper whitetail special 125 grain is my favorite and qad Exodus for fixed blades. Great video!

  • @coloradooutdoorman2223
    @coloradooutdoorman2223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks kip, you'll hate me for this but I use the kryptos from Walmart, I re fletch and use 100 grain ramkat broadheads. And with those 4 dollar arrows I pack my freezer full every year. I agree with everything you say but I can't afford all the higher price equipment and believe it or not my set up is great for me. Course never take a shot over 35 yards I believe you can kill anything if you put the arrow where it needs to be, I mean the Indians killed Buffalo with sticks and rocks so my compound bow and walmart arrows might be somewhat an upgrade from that, course it don't help that I shoot daily and know my stuff.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't ever knock another hunter for his or her setup! We all have to shoot a setup that works best for each of us as individual hunters. Got to be confident, regardless of what's on our bow or arrow!!

  • @masterski03
    @masterski03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shooting 68 pound 28 inch length and my arrows are about 470gr . They fly great with no big drop. Almost always a pass thru. I believe I’m around 11-12% foc.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice!! Good luck on your hunts!!

  • @kennylainhart7148
    @kennylainhart7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good information brother!!!!

  • @wiscokid9890
    @wiscokid9890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10 year old bowtech bow and 530ish grain arrow 225 grain up front. 25 yard mark is the same as the 30 yard. I like that a bunch lol. Almost got to see what the arrow would do last Saturday but I think I got the fever and or maybe hit a branch or both because the arrow flew 5ft over its back at 30 yards. I know it hit a branch for a fact, I just don't know if it was between me and the deer or the branches over his head. Lol. 17 good steps from where I found the arrow to where the deer was standing. Either way glad I missed not that my dumb ass wounded it.

  • @shanestout3543
    @shanestout3543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your video... Your mind works like mine does..

  • @jonesboyshunting8673
    @jonesboyshunting8673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information man. I have stayed down the worm hole of arrow building for myself and others and have learned a lot and have started to understand what my set up likes in an arrow. Keep up the great work man.

  • @urbanarcher3535
    @urbanarcher3535 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a heads up the flag behind you in this video should have the union in the upper left when hung in this configuration. Good video

  • @TheBowJoe702
    @TheBowJoe702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. 6:05 made me laugh for ten mins straight. Lol

  • @scootertrash647
    @scootertrash647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the heavy side jus for the simple fact I have better luck when the unplanned happens,deer jumps the string etc. Lighter set ups with mechanical is great if everything goes as planned lol. All a matter of opinion and personal experience

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That last sentence is spot on!! Shoot what works best for each of us, and go fill that freezer!! Good luck on your hunts!

  • @sinepari9160
    @sinepari9160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was playing with 600 gr and like you said, out here in the west and heavy wind taking long(er) shots it just wasn't ideal. I built a easton axis long range 4mm with a 4 fletch for stability, 150gr BH and 55gr insert for right around 503gr with 17% FOC.. pretty much like the one you're talking about here. Perfect arrow imo.

  • @dylansluis7684
    @dylansluis7684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am building some new arrows that are going to be around 510 Grains. In my opinion 475-525 is a good range for Whitetail Deer. I don't understand how some people shoot 600+ Grain arrows. The amount of speed you suffer at that weight does not compensate for the small amount of pentration potential that you gain.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck on your hunts!!

    • @wk9953
      @wk9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because a heavier arrow retains momentum and has more ke and momentum plus drops less speed overall. So my 685 grain arrow only loses about 9fps at 60 yards compared to the 26+ a 450 does. The math and physics doesn't lie. You will never outrun a deer jumping the string. Also pin gaps are more consistent and easier to predict at every yardage with with a heavier arrow. But you shoot what you are comfortable with and what you you want

  • @jamesonlee2594
    @jamesonlee2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe it's the other way around. Those that shot light arrows and expandable broadheads are those that don't know how to tune a bow. They take the easy way out

  • @brentoverway8323
    @brentoverway8323 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting topic. There seems to be a lot of conflict going between the 2 sides of arrow building, heavy vs light. I have to admit that I dabbled in the very heavy arrow build, but it wasn't necessary for my Midwest whitetail hunting. I have settled on a 560gr RIP TKO. I have a 31" DL, so my arrows are inherently heavier than the average archer. I still use a 670gr Sirius Apollo and it shoots great out of my Halon 32-7. Like you you said, it's going to be different for everyone. I have to say, I see way too many TH-cam hunters shoot deer with lighter arrows that get little arrow penetration and track a deer 2 miles after "smoking him".

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely depends on the hunt, and always has to be comfortable for the shooter. Doesn't make any sense to for someone to try a set up they're not confident in, but we always lean on the heavier arrow set up side of that conversation!

  • @daltonglandon591
    @daltonglandon591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great way to look at arrow weight, I shoot the RIP TKO as well but with the 50gr outsert weighing in at 415gr cause I shoot TAC as well as whitetail but really thinking of changing vanes to AAE or the ones you have. Elites are just too pricey for me to experiment with too much with

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love shooting this set up!

  • @Lyric-F07
    @Lyric-F07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm shooting 483 grains at 67lbs, things a blast to shoot!

    • @Lyric-F07
      @Lyric-F07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey kip, my season was cut short. I broke my leg in 3 spots on Saturday. I hope to watch some new episodes of you killing big bucks and mature does!!! I'd love to see you give wisco another shot ;)

  • @sethlindsey1359
    @sethlindsey1359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My arrows are a little lighter than I want right now. I'm at 411 looking to go to 450-475. I use 3 blade fixed broadheads. Switching to the Magnus black hornet serazor next season.

  • @tileman454
    @tileman454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video.

  • @BearMeat4Dinner
    @BearMeat4Dinner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bau bau great video. It's a good heart to heart about equipment. Thanks!!

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir! Keeping it real!

  • @hunterhenslee9993
    @hunterhenslee9993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m shooting a ventum 30 at 85 pounds 29 inch draw. 485 grain arrow at 290 feet a second give or take a few and have had great luck so far with all the deer I have shot with it this year. I shoot the mega meat and will shoot them till they stop making them!

    • @tylerisbell6916
      @tylerisbell6916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s weird I shoot a Hoyt ventum 30 and with a 512 grain arrow 28” 70 pounds I’m getting 280fps you have 1” of draw and 15 pounds and are only clearing 10fps with a 27 grain lighter arrow

  • @titansfan2104
    @titansfan2104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You preach ke , as you should. But remember ke is a result of speed and mass. Your ping pong ball vs a brick Is grossly overexaggerated.
    With a 400 gr arrow vs a 600 gr arrow the ke just isn't that much different at whitetail ranges but ofc the lighter arrow loses ke faster at range.
    I fall in line with your belief that I like the 450-500 gr arrow shooting around 288 fps. Imo that gives you good arrow flight, trajectory and weight!
    Great video!

  • @jordanwashington7903
    @jordanwashington7903 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we get a list breakdown on this build please

  • @MINIHAHA1
    @MINIHAHA1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great post brother! Do what works for you. I have buddies that have killed a lot of deer with 400g arrows and guys that killed them with high 500g arrows. I think it boils down to shot placement period. That's my two cents do what works for you

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly!! Shoot what works best for the shooter, and go punch some deer tags!!

    • @sethlindsey1359
      @sethlindsey1359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine are only 411 right now and I've yet to have an arrow not blow out the other side.

  • @gooberdooberwunderb
    @gooberdooberwunderb ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video man! I’m shooting a Matthews V3X.
    I’m shooting 60 pounds with a 422 gr arrow, hundred grain grim reaper
    I’m assuming if I’m accurate this will take a Southern Oregon blacktail down no problem… But I am thinking that I want to go up to bear and maybe even elk… So I am thinking about going up to about a 500 grain arrow and 70 pounds… What do you think?

  • @quintenbullard2921
    @quintenbullard2921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They have the same ke but a heavy arrow have more momentum aka have the ability to do more work

  • @tonyhamilton6948
    @tonyhamilton6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way he tells about his and different kinds of arrows. The guys who make Elder Scrolls like Skyrim should have him to have better archery details in the next game.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching man!

    • @tonyhamilton6948
      @tonyhamilton6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Red_Arrow No problem Sir. Hope to see more on the different styles of arrows and bows that you indeed to talk about. Would like to know what you you think of different kinds of bows from recurve to compound to hybrid?

  • @gregoryshelton7479
    @gregoryshelton7479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well spoken!

  • @bawbbob7830
    @bawbbob7830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lower weight gives higher kinetic energy. Momentum is the term your looking for as it increases with arrow weight. Essentially it’s how hard it is to stop the object in motion. I think the middle ground is based off of arrow speed rather than weight and the number is somewhere around 275 FPS from my experience.

  • @milkrvr4088
    @milkrvr4088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to hit a certain speed about 286fps I’ll add weight until my bow shoots that speed this year it was 482 grains I have clearance to shoot to 100 yards and my FOC is 16% I’ll drop my FOC for deer I’ll go down in broadhead size and that makes the drops better also great video make some more

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like it! And thanks - plan on it for sure!

  • @twc6771
    @twc6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still consider a 500- 580 grain arrow to be a light arrow 600 and up start getting in your adult arrow set up below 500 I consider to be ultra light arrows when you have a bow that is tuned and shooting spot on it doesn't matter what the weight of your arrow set up is and of course you have to shoot your equipment on a regular basis to be proficient and confident I have a tendency to favor a heavy arrow set up its what you as the shooter prefer .

    • @twc6771
      @twc6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Revolt 29.5 draw 70 lbs black eagle rampage 250 spine running standard insert maasai 200 grain arrow length is 29.5 inches 613 grains 16 % FOC RIP TKO which is a lighter arrow than black eagle 28 inches length Maasai 125 grain Ethic archery 85- 195 kit up front with maasai and insert out sert total with broadhead and arrow Nocturnal nock 582 grain FOC is 21 % there is something to be said about FOC a I bare shaft tune and nock tune my arrows everything is as good as I can get it I try to shoot every day If I can I can shoot both set up with the same sight the difference in weight on drop is not to bad it's what a person chooses to shoot that key word/ words. Are tuned now as well as arrows and shoot shoot and shoot some more. To the best as one can have fun and enjoy Bowhunting and shoot a Bowtech and refuse to follow. I'm just kidding the bow that one shoots is the one that the individual is most comfortable for him or her to operate.

    • @twc6771
      @twc6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have confidence in yourself and your equipment practice as much as you can do everything in your ability to put it where it needs to be it doesn't matter if you are shooting fence posts or toothpicks it what work for the person doing the swacking main thing is enjoy the sport of Archery and have fun.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!!

    • @twc6771
      @twc6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The views and opinions that were expressed by myself are just mine and we are all entitled to our opinions. There should not be lines that are drawn in the sand that pits us as bowhunters against on another no matter how we choose to go about it compound or traditional light or heavy arrow set up enjoy the hunting and the outdoors and try to get as many new people/ younger people involved.

  • @chasingthefish9042
    @chasingthefish9042 ปีที่แล้ว

    Horsepower (light weight)= how fast you get to the wall.
    Torque (heavy weight)= how far you push the wall after you hit it.

  • @XiangnuKhaan
    @XiangnuKhaan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I shoot 23 foc out of my recurve with my point on being 34 yards, for some this maybe much point is you should use what works for you

  • @noahchapman1466
    @noahchapman1466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What brand/kind of inserts and collars are you using and the grains?

  • @davidwatkins6575
    @davidwatkins6575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree with you. I’ve tried both ends of the spectrum. I like around 500, but where I hunt shots are 30 yards at most. How long is your arrow?

  • @jdonez8347
    @jdonez8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of insert you boys recommend for a 300 spine 29.5 inch arrow gold tip w 100 grain fixed blade broadhead. Running gt nocturnal lighted knock.

  • @jeremylawson7154
    @jeremylawson7154 ปีที่แล้ว

    My current setup is as follows... 11.50% FOC 455 Grain...is that good for whitetails/hogs and bears?

  • @6saturdaysaweek
    @6saturdaysaweek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ping pong v. Brick isn’t a good comparison. It would be more like would you rather be hit with a mens slow pitch softball vs a regulation baseball. That’s a lot better ratio comparison.
    Good video, middle of the road weight arrow (450-500 grain)gives you a useable pin gap, and down range momentum.

  • @johnfaulkner4067
    @johnfaulkner4067 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good insight here. Question on your fletching set up. What size TAC vanes are you using and have you had any issues with them not adhering well to the shaft? I only ask because I was considering the 2.75" and 3.75" Drivers, but saw many reviews on Lancaster Archery's site for problems getting them to stick and am hesitant.

  • @joshkrobinson
    @joshkrobinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My setup is just around 400 grains, whatever you, however you shot practice practice practice.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's right!

  • @joelmcmahan7386
    @joelmcmahan7386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Turn em new arrows red there Kip, good hunting and gods speed to the Campbell family, red arrow crew, and fans. 👍🇺🇸🏹🎥🦾🥇

  • @ApexPredatorOutdoors
    @ApexPredatorOutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wading into dangerous waters! Lol Do what kills for you. Just remember that animals often don't stay still.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No dangerous waters here - just giving y'all a rundown of what I shoot! Agree 100% that everyone needs to be confident in their own set up!

  • @hchupacabra2010e
    @hchupacabra2010e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What size inserts and footers are you shooting? Not weight wise but what size fits on your RIP TKO?

  • @ImKillerGonads
    @ImKillerGonads 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For shits and giggles a buddy and I made some CRAZY heavy arrows. 920 grains with 23.8%FOC. Flew very slowly, very quietly, and no pig we chased could stop it. That said, it's nothing more than a fun arrow, definitely not my deer setup.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha dang son!!!

  • @austinroyer3229
    @austinroyer3229 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s all about balance and compromise but at the end of the day if you can’t hit your mark, it’s all a wash anyway.

  • @colemcgrew6138
    @colemcgrew6138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I've been bow hunting for almost 15 years and arrows have always confused the hell out of me.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've got a couple more tip videos like this coming! Stay tuned and good luck!!

  • @darrenmorris6371
    @darrenmorris6371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought some RIP TKO’s. Is there anything wrong with the factory inserts? Or would you suggest another insert?

  • @mmafighter1181989
    @mmafighter1181989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The brick and ping-pong ball reference is meaningless. Both of those objects are completely stopping and displacing all of their energy and weight into you. Arrow weight has more to do with penetration and so when a 600 grain arrow is passing straight through you it is displacing almost none of its energy into you. So if you can get a 400 grain arrow to pass straight through as well it is on the same playing field as the 600 grain arrow.

  • @timbow50
    @timbow50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally my arrows ( only426 grains)and draw weight 58 pounds to get a 4" hit diameter inside a 10 yard distance. Arrow speed is not too relevant to me. So if I were to misjudge distance like say 7 yards my arrow would still hit somewhere inside high or low a 4" circle. Like setting a rifle for point blank range hits. Everyone needs to know there arrow trajectory, especially when using a single pin. IMO

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck on your hunts!!

  • @Blazer-qj4ir
    @Blazer-qj4ir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type of insert and outsert are you using on that arrow build?

  • @twinpeaksoutdoorz4772
    @twinpeaksoutdoorz4772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are the names to the inserts and outserts

  • @robertoramirez4782
    @robertoramirez4782 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s your DL ?

  • @stevencarnes7790
    @stevencarnes7790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened with Afflictor broad heads? I’m curious to know why you stopped using them? Because they seemed to work vary well for you.

    • @davehalm7362
      @davehalm7362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cause he stopped getting them for free!😂

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not at all. Chose not to continue that partnership, and then went out and bought our own broadheads and shot what I wanted to until I found what I really wanted to shoot on each hunt. Need to make money to pay the bills, but money doesn't drive every decision we make!

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They worked and we had some great hunts with them. But I'm always in search of the best gear to hunt with, especially broadheads, which is why we opened up the search and started testing out a bunch of broadheads again like we did prior to that partnership. Then settled on G5 from that testing!

    • @stevencarnes7790
      @stevencarnes7790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Red_Arrow I was just genuinely curious if you switched because it wasn’t what you where looking for in a broad head. I never thought money was something that drove your decisions. As one Va country boy to another I have a lot of respect for you and how straightforward you always are. I also get you have bills to pay kids to feed and a wife to support. So I understand the need for sponsors. All the doe’s you kill definitely puts meat on the table though 🤣. Keep on doing what your doing because you have the best hunting show on tv.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevencarnes7790All good!! The comment about money wasn't directed back to you! We appreciate you watching and thank you for your support! Means a lot to us!! Good luck on your hunts!!

  • @garrettsmith6679
    @garrettsmith6679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude what insert and outsert collar are you using on those?

  • @johnlee8123
    @johnlee8123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had trouble with my tac vanes coming off easily. Have you not had that problem?

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No sir!

    • @Mjohnson4477
      @Mjohnson4477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      use the primer pens. they will stick

  • @davehalm7362
    @davehalm7362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch the GrizzlyStik 650 Whitetail System video. Enjoy

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never seen it before!

  • @bbbbbbb2357
    @bbbbbbb2357 ปีที่แล้ว

    This dude talks like every Campbell I’ve ever known haha

  • @michaelvstheworld3680
    @michaelvstheworld3680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That G5 megameat mega sucks. The Montec is a way better head.

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both have gotten the job done perfectly on our hunts!

  • @stevie9361
    @stevie9361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you gave no info on a perfect arrow. I'll give you a perfect arrow. 420 to 550 grains. 25 to 28 draw length yall can use 420 to 440 grains

  • @RG-ij7ge
    @RG-ij7ge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    492 is plenty

  • @djackson1120
    @djackson1120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to delete all the heavy arrow groups on FB. Can't talk to those hard headed guys. They are bad for the industry.

  • @Kayakphotography
    @Kayakphotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the last 2 years alone i’ve killed 13 deer with a sub 400 grain arrow. (364 and 380 grains). With a Rage 2” on the front. Guys still tell me my arrow wont kill reliably while they have shot maybe one deer in that time period. 🤣 flatter trajectory kills more than weight/foc ever will.

  • @Macmathews1
    @Macmathews1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guy, love your stuff but your talking about heavy arrow guys can't tune a bow and your pimping an expandable broadhead LOL

  • @kylewalker6921
    @kylewalker6921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put some new freakin videos on, can't stand watching these other hunters. Did you retire?

    • @Red_Arrow
      @Red_Arrow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've had new episodes posted weekly for the last month and a half, and a few other videos a week almost all year!! Definitely not retired!!