Cheers is one of my favorite all-time shows. I still watch it from time to time. That show really picked up once she was added to the cast. It went over the top. I miss you Kirstie. You are hilarious to watch. Beautiful eyes
Most enlightening I must say! I had a huge crush on Kirsty from the moment I saw her on the Star Trek Big Screen and when she was on Cheers, was such a delight. I never met her but sometimes you just get a feel for how people are in real life. Like - I am a fan of William Shatner as an actor and as someone who has had awesome real life adventures. Still he was and is a tiny bit of a jerk. I never got those vibes from Kirsty.
I watched the full interview a couple of days ago and it was terrific. However, this particular segment was a huge revelation. As a Star Trek fan, the long-held story was that Kirstie refused to come back for further sequels as Saavik (as well as attend cons or otherwise acknowledge her Star Trek role) because she wanted to strenuously avoid getting typecast. Finding out that some cast members were not very kind to her during the making of "...Khan" explains a lot and adds a very relatable, if unfortunate, dimension to why Kirstie seemed so standoffish about the franchise over the years. Thank you, Patrick and Ike!
The story is from several sources is that she very much wanted to come back for Star Trek III but they sent over a quote to her for less money (not much) she earned for Star Trek II. She, not unreasonably, said that she wanted more because a. Saavik's part is much bigger in III, b. she was no longer a novice actress but now had many credits to her name. She wanted to negotiate a small increase but her agent without her knowledge asked for more money than D. Kelley was earning. But, instead, Nimoy and Co. simply never responded to the agent's ludicrous demand and hired Robin Curtis. Alley was upset by this because she never knew what the agent asked for until after the fact and because she felt she had a rapport with Nimoy and was not being unreasonable in asking for an increase. Indeed, they could have easily given her a raise as the film came in under-budget. Unfortunately, the agent screwed his own client.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 That's an interesting story if true. Have to wonder if Kirstie's agent also represented Judson Scott, considering what happened to him and his billing with "...Khan".
Alley freely admits she was really green and at times unprofessional, coming to set still drunk from the night before and flubbing her lines. That said, Nimoy liked her and wanted her back for Star Trek III. But 1) Paramount low-balled her, offering less money than for TWOK, despite her now having many credits and a bigger part, and then 2) Her agent, *without consulting her,* screwed her over by countering Paramount's offer with a quote large than DeForest Kelley's. Nimoy and Bennett didn't bother with a counter-offer. Alley was upset with her agent over this, and pissed Paramount didn't bother to even send a reasonable counter because she was willing to take a lot less than the agent's quote. She was unhappy that Nimoy now thought she was unreasonable. So, it was an unhappy ending to the collaboration.
Oh my gosh fell in Love with Kirstie Alley from the moment I first saw her in Star Trek, she was so beautiful! Got to actually see her in person about 20 years ago when I went to a live taping of "Veronica's Closet" and she's even more beautiful in person
Kirstie Alley was an amazing actress. Her range was phenomenal from comedy to drama and back again. But that scene in Cheers where she marries the plumber and is simultaneously deliriously happy and having a nervous breakdown is amazing. I don’t think that any actress had or has the ability to do that.
Saavik should have ended with Kirstie's involvement. There was no real need for the character in TSFS. The lady who replaced her wasn't bad, she just wasn't the same and it lessened the whole movie for me.
OMG! I had SUCH A CRUSH on this guy in the 70s!
"He stayed at his post when the trainees ran"
Cheers is one of my favorite all-time shows. I still watch it from time to time. That show really picked up once she was added to the cast. It went over the top. I miss you Kirstie. You are hilarious to watch. Beautiful eyes
Most enlightening I must say! I had a huge crush on Kirsty from the moment I saw her on the Star Trek Big Screen and when she was on Cheers, was such a delight. I never met her but sometimes you just get a feel for how people are in real life. Like - I am a fan of William Shatner as an actor and as someone who has had awesome real life adventures. Still he was and is a tiny bit of a jerk. I never got those vibes from Kirsty.
I watched the full interview a couple of days ago and it was terrific. However, this particular segment was a huge revelation. As a Star Trek fan, the long-held story was that Kirstie refused to come back for further sequels as Saavik (as well as attend cons or otherwise acknowledge her Star Trek role) because she wanted to strenuously avoid getting typecast. Finding out that some cast members were not very kind to her during the making of "...Khan" explains a lot and adds a very relatable, if unfortunate, dimension to why Kirstie seemed so standoffish about the franchise over the years. Thank you, Patrick and Ike!
The story is from several sources is that she very much wanted to come back for Star Trek III but they sent over a quote to her for less money (not much) she earned for Star Trek II. She, not unreasonably, said that she wanted more because a. Saavik's part is much bigger in III, b. she was no longer a novice actress but now had many credits to her name. She wanted to negotiate a small increase but her agent without her knowledge asked for more money than D. Kelley was earning. But, instead, Nimoy and Co. simply never responded to the agent's ludicrous demand and hired Robin Curtis. Alley was upset by this because she never knew what the agent asked for until after the fact and because she felt she had a rapport with Nimoy and was not being unreasonable in asking for an increase. Indeed, they could have easily given her a raise as the film came in under-budget. Unfortunately, the agent screwed his own client.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 That's an interesting story if true. Have to wonder if Kirstie's agent also represented Judson Scott, considering what happened to him and his billing with "...Khan".
The word is given...
Alley freely admits she was really green and at times unprofessional, coming to set still drunk from the night before and flubbing her lines. That said, Nimoy liked her and wanted her back for Star Trek III. But 1) Paramount low-balled her, offering less money than for TWOK, despite her now having many credits and a bigger part, and then 2) Her agent, *without consulting her,* screwed her over by countering Paramount's offer with a quote large than DeForest Kelley's. Nimoy and Bennett didn't bother with a counter-offer. Alley was upset with her agent over this, and pissed Paramount didn't bother to even send a reasonable counter because she was willing to take a lot less than the agent's quote. She was unhappy that Nimoy now thought she was unreasonable. So, it was an unhappy ending to the collaboration.
You stayed at your post when the trainees ran, Ike
This guy is awesome greetings from South Carolina
Oh my gosh fell in Love with Kirstie Alley from the moment I first saw her in Star Trek, she was so beautiful! Got to actually see her in person about 20 years ago when I went to a live taping of "Veronica's Closet" and she's even more beautiful in person
Kirstie Alley was an amazing actress. Her range was phenomenal from comedy to drama and back again. But that scene in Cheers where she marries the plumber and is simultaneously deliriously happy and having a nervous breakdown is amazing. I don’t think that any actress had or has the ability to do that.
FARGING ICEHOLE comes from the movie JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY starring Michael Keaton.
How was it like working for Michael Landon and Donald P Bellisario?
Saavik should have ended with Kirstie's involvement. There was no real need for the character in TSFS. The lady who replaced her wasn't bad, she just wasn't the same and it lessened the whole movie for me.
I’d be pissed at my uncle Scotty for taking the scenic route (via bridge) to sickbay wasting precious time