Don't Buy Elden Ring just for Co-op: Elden Ring Multiplayer Explained...

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  • Elden Ring multiplayer is the most streamlined a FromSoftware game has been. That being said the limitations of the co-op system may put off players wanting a more streamlined co-op experience from Elden Ring. Todays video breaks down how to co-op in Elden ring, the limitations of co-op in Elden ring, and how Elden Ring multiplayer and co-op are intended to be used. Yes you can play through the game with your friend from start to finish, but not in one session.
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  • @rolfherrmann3707
    @rolfherrmann3707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A simple coop campaign which no one disturbs pls

  • @drudill
    @drudill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I feel like I was tricked about the way co-op worked in this game. Only got it to play along with friends from beginning to end.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’ve hear this a few too many times, and that’s why I wanted to make this video

    • @miavelvet
      @miavelvet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I believe that Fromsoftware did this intentionally thats why i gave this game a negative review. They just tricked so many people into thinking this game would have a proper coop

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same I thought it be different

    • @patricklee4050
      @patricklee4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think if it were all out co op the game wouldn't be a challenge and wouldn't live up to what they are known dor as far as giving challenges. I personally haven't been able to play with any of my friends which I looked forwarded to sharing knowledge and adventures with but am grateful they placed summons as a way to break through barriers in the game. Overall i am pleased with their product and even grateful it turned out this way as my victories are all that much more glorious solo. I am now lv 125 rocking tree sentinel and the berserk blade along with finger print shield. That set up and my mimic to tag along i almost walk through any obstacles.

    • @miavelvet
      @miavelvet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@patricklee4050 first of all this coop "style" doesn't make game any harder, it just makes it feel junky and inconvenient. You still can kill bosses in coop easily you just have to do it twice in both worlds wasting your time etc. Its just trash and they didn't care about coop experience at all yet still used it in their advertisements as a great and improved feature.

  • @frankremson7435
    @frankremson7435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Yea, this was a huge disappointment. This game had such huge potential and the coop just ruins it. They need to create a true coop experience and this mess is just a waste of time.

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree and coop was the only thing I was looking forward to

    • @quailland1982
      @quailland1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      seamless co-op mod dropping tomorrow my man ❤❤

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quailland1982 why is it called a mod? All mods that I’ve had to deal with was through third-party sources is that what they’re doing

    • @demospolsion6539
      @demospolsion6539 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VisualRift it is third party. It is made by a guy known for making mods for Fromsoft games to fix their shitty multiplayer. For example he made the popular Blue Sentinel mod for DS3 which is just a better anti cheat than the shitty one the game uses

    • @nathansjourney9064
      @nathansjourney9064 ปีที่แล้ว

      What games would you recommend similar to elden ring but with better co-op / pvp?

  • @valacent
    @valacent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Definitely would mention the fact that once you kill all a regions "Key" bosses (Sometimes which seem chosen randomly) you are completely locked out from summoning any other players for co-op! SUCKS~!

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Did not know that about the world bosses that is unfortunate

    • @aislynn001
      @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agree - there's no warning to let you know this will happen, either, so if you chance upon a dragon, you can't just kill it. You have to run away, and google whether it's one of these "special" mobs or not, and - at least in earlier game play - it was 50/50 whether you'd find any information at all, let alone whether or not it was useful.

  • @adamcool8580
    @adamcool8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Adding the co-op from beginning to end as a mode would be a great DLC addition if they are not trying to add new areas

    • @demospolsion6539
      @demospolsion6539 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The seamless coop mod does exactly that and it’s so great. It finally does what I always wanted from these games: allows party building. Like you can be a dedicated healer, buffer, tank or whatever and never have to worry about a small section of the game you will have to solo. I wish Fromsoft would just drop their shitty summon multiplayer, like the gameplay can be hard, but why does using the multiplayer have to be too? Just don’t have it from the start or make it good...

    • @adamcool8580
      @adamcool8580 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demospolsion6539 that's really cool, unfortunately I play on console and don't think I can access this mod :(

  • @deydey9533
    @deydey9533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    with a game of a quality like elden ring it feels like they crippled them self. it would be the easiest thing to do just like many other games do. they dont even have to change anything in the story just act like the people are solo in the cutscene but let em actually play together. this game could have catapulted itself so much further than it did. imagine havin always 2 friends buying the game because they wanted to coop and can actually do that.
    Edit: all im trying to say is that it wouldnt have made the game any worse to have a full coop. but the other way arround (the case we have right now) its pretty a big issue for a lot of people.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% agree. I feel like there has to be some limitation between coop and pvp that it has to be this way. We will see what comes of the future. They are still adding story beats and npc stuff so maybe we will get a coop overhaul patch one day.

  • @frankm.9456
    @frankm.9456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I honestly wish they could've learned something from say Nioh 2 in it's online aspect, I really spent countless hours playing Nioh's multiplayer and still do from time to time just because of how entertaining it is.

    • @christopheryanez
      @christopheryanez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you…Nioh 2’s CO-OP was just badass. It’s almost like Team Ninja looked at their history with PvP multiplayer, looked at how FromSoft can never get PvP multiplayer right, and just said “forget about it, let’s put more focus into PvE and CO-OP”. It most definitely paid off, by far one of the very best co-op experiences out there on top of having very addicting combat. It’s also very irritating how the Summoning Pools could’ve been a way to bring back one of the very best CO-OP features which was Bloodborne’s Bell Ringing Lady. I personally just put my summon sign down near boss walls and even use the Blue Cipher Ring. I don’t really see a use for Summoning Pools, I’m glad solo players can no longer be invaded unless they use the Taunter’s Tongue but they could’ve been so much better with the Summoning Pools.
      DS3 invasions were corrosive, Ringed City pretty much corroded any attempt for my friends and I to play the game together because of how it was pretty much Red Rat HQ. Non stop invasions, same rats that would just run away to aggro enemies, the PvP metas/exploits as well as inconsistent servers were the cherry on top. Bloodborne tho? We honestly had fun with the entire game and probably fought 2-3 invaders. The Bell Lady was such an awesome mechanic that allowed players to enjoy PvE and CO-OP and not having to worry about some rats corroding the experience. Elden Ring even has the rats complaining on top of the usual issues with PvP players…I really love their games but flaws like those personally have way too much weight to ignore.

    • @utsuro1165
      @utsuro1165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@christopheryanez I agree with you, And because elden ring is such an open world its very easy to twink and join early game players with endgame loot
      Me and my friend started a "coop only playthrough" but forgot about pvp, Our first invasion at me (wretch, level 1) and him (vagabond, level 13) was someone with the white mask, lord of blood's exultation and rivers of blood
      We literally just wanted to defeat the tree sentinel, margit and godrick together but we got invaded by rivers of blood users, hoarah loux's earthshaker, blackflame tornado and mohg's trident users as well as other invaders
      it's horrible

  • @zabvza7457
    @zabvza7457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    So sick of asking why this game which has been applauded for all the brave changes it adopted, with a massive new open world to explore, why it simply can’t include seamless co-op and get the reply “Well these games were never intended to be multiplayer”
    And? They weren’t intended to be open world in this format either but that changed? So many mechanics change from game to game but they can’t foresee that people would want to explore the world with their friends with ease? It’s just not a good enough excuse, it seems lazy. It the past soulsbourne games it made sense because it felt like you were just going from section of the map to another section, that doesn’t work in an open world, yet half the fan base seems to get triggered when you point that out. You would think the addition of a world like this would come with some concessions like the way the co-op works would have to change, but no, and as a result it makes what I would consider an otherwise perfect game feel really clunky.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly was big sad when horseback in coop wasn’t a thing (or horseback pvp).
      The open world is the only place where I feel this kind of coop doesn’t work. It’s basically the same as other titles when it comes to dungeons and such, but the open world def wasn’t thought out idt

    • @zabvza7457
      @zabvza7457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@BillytheSkwid I guess that’s my biggest issue, yes it works for bosses and dungeons like it always has, but a huge aspect to this game is now exploration, which is essentially doesn’t support, which if they did they may as well make it seamless co-op but just… didn’t? It makes me sad if anything

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree

  • @xDevenchi
    @xDevenchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m hopeful for a coop overhaul update, but keeping my expectations in check

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am aswell. Primary concern is getting multiplayer stable on pc, secondary would be as you said an overhaul, horse in coop/pvp, opening the open world up entirely, not blocking off dungeons. Probably a pipe dream but it would be amazing.

    • @xDevenchi
      @xDevenchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BillytheSkwid Thanks for the reply. I agreed with everything you said also you’ve earned a subscriber

    • @macjquillan9941
      @macjquillan9941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BillytheSkwid will this ever happen ?

    • @utsuro1165
      @utsuro1165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@macjquillan9941 No
      sadly its not because fromsoft want the game to be this way but they're scared from "ruining" the game for invasions
      I think they should just seperate pvp and pve then we can play with our friends
      I love duels but invasions never go well and never went well from bloodborne ds3 and now elden ring
      If invasions weren't in then you could use the horse, fight bosses and clear dungeons with no restrictions

    • @Thesrin
      @Thesrin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check the seamless co-op mod, I'm 60 hours in it with a friend and it's so much better than the base co op.
      We can run from the weeping peninsula to Altus Plateau without having to resummon, killing all the bosses on the! We both get the boss items and everything from chests and corpses etc.
      It's fan made so there are glitches, mainly, it's seems best to talk to some NPC's in your game solo, and round table hold was getting a bit confused with two players in it. (So not super great for "quests" yet)
      Ever Gaols are finicky to get both players in
      And we've been separating to pick up Great Runes just in case.

  • @haussmannbashes3744
    @haussmannbashes3744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is someone want to play alone why can’t they do that and if someone wants to play with a friend why the F IS THAT SO DIFFULT TO DO.

  • @timekeepermedia5142
    @timekeepermedia5142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    me and my two friends drop connection every 30 seconds. The instability is the biggest issue with co-op and it's unplayable

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are you playing on. I haven’t had issues with PS5 but I hear Pc is a struggle.

    • @timekeepermedia5142
      @timekeepermedia5142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BillytheSkwid pc :(

    • @Ziyoblader
      @Ziyoblader 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my gosh thank goodness it's not just me yeah we can't really do anything in the game with co-op and even when we get invaded it's only a matter of time before we get dropped

    • @christopheryanez
      @christopheryanez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude even my friend on PC has optimization issues even during solo gameplay. This game needed a bit more time, it’s still amazing but the flaws personally have way too much weight for me to ignore. It’s just irritating especially when CO-OP personally peaked with Bloodborne.

  • @clarencezer
    @clarencezer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Damn man this game is fucking amazing but its a huge shame we have this beautiful open world but unable to explore it with friends due to these limitations.
    I get its been done like this from the rest of the souls game but imagine how much more insane it would be without these limitaitons, there are so many cool places inbetween the summom areas and horseback pvp matches would be insane.
    Everything has been amplified to 10 and over in this game and its much easier to summon then in dark souls 3 but holyfuck, why the bloody multiplayer system never got streamlined boggles my mind.

    • @CroatZg
      @CroatZg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly! BUT, why not make it so that when you've beaten the game "their way" i.e. the way it was meant to be played, you get the ability/option to replay the game in classical co-op mode...? That would make Elden Ring one of the best games ever.

  • @rgmcar8297
    @rgmcar8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Co-op is shit lol

  • @BotBoy-un3pz
    @BotBoy-un3pz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So I guess coop in this game is like invasions in ds3 - from stopped caring about invasions in ds3 and all the invaders complained and now they stopped caring about coop and all the coopers are angry. Really seems like they’re just getting more and more lazy with the online aspect of these games.

  • @kevinpreyy7113
    @kevinpreyy7113 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seamless coop mod was the savior for me. I was never a souls fan typically, always loved the shooters. But my buddy showed me the coop mod and sent me a copy of the game and ive never had so much fun in any game before and the mod is practically flawless

  • @Dramatello
    @Dramatello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A very important video very well explained. The multilayers makes the game a hard pass for me.
    I would’ve loved or endured the difficulty and hardcore feel of it… but the summoning bs and mp aspect sucks

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was helpful and sorry if it makes the game a pass for you.

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same I returned it so fast after I was so hopeful all these months

  • @andersrobertsen7610
    @andersrobertsen7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A lot of it does feel like it's meant for two people though.
    I'm not that good, but some bosses seem so aggro I can't get a shot In because I'm constantly having to block or dodge, and seems like I need a second to draw aggro away.
    Again I'm new to fromsoft and I'm not that good

  • @BranZHamZ
    @BranZHamZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    really glad i looked into this... after purchase. but I'm not mad. i like playing games with and without friends either way. The process in getting co-op doesn't sound that bad. They've had a long time to work on their systems and why they work they way they do. Thanks for the video

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was useful! It really isn’t bad, just a lot of hoops

  • @sanctuslupus578
    @sanctuslupus578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually got a multiplayer termination bc I left another players world by exiting the game, literally 1 of the worst co-op systems in a souls game.

  • @yourevilhalf1413
    @yourevilhalf1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In other words just call it what it is, blatant false advertisement. The way they marketed co-op in the goddamn trailers is totally different in the way it's implemented now.

  • @MegaCazzam
    @MegaCazzam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With a multiplayer this bad with invaders and co-op it’s amazing this game is getting 9 out of 10s

  • @andersrobertsen7610
    @andersrobertsen7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think from now on I'm going to help other people beat bosses, but I'm going to do all my bosses and dungeons solo from here on.
    I'll practice and learn how to fight them, but I sort of wish I made those achievements myself.

  • @mr.poobear99
    @mr.poobear99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why don’t they make it a option it’s like they don’t want you to get a full experience. Cause even tho it’s made to be played solo it feels like a game that is meant for cooperation. They missing out on more people joining the game cause no one wants to play a cooperative game where you can only work together in certain areas/ ways. And it would be a lot better if enemies didn’t just stayed despawned

  • @havsgaard
    @havsgaard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Elden ring Co-op is in my view the worst frustrating part of any game in a long time. I do not have time to play Elden ring solo, I have 2-3 hours each week and I bought the game with a friend as we intended to play coop. But we are both so disappointed by the fromsoftware shit vision of co-op, that we are giving up - it is simply a complete waste of time and a constant annoyance in so many ways. So we are going back to Borderlands 3 or far cry 6. we both could have waited for more detailed reviews before buying the game so we are the only ones to blame - but we did indeed waste our money for what we intended to do.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry you are giving up on it. Was hoping this review would get to more people before they purchased. The game is amazing, and I think if you have the time it will be a treat but I understand if the systems in place have spoiled it for you

    • @christopheryanez
      @christopheryanez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel you dude, my friends and I are still having fun but it can be corrosive at times. If you want an actually fun FromSoft CO-OP experience, wait for the Bloodborne Remaster.

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, you should have done some research about souls games. These aren't super difficult games as some people makes it to be, but they're not casual games either, and certainly not multiplayer games. They're single player action RPGs with some multiplayer elements added. You can do "co-op" runs in these games for fun, I've done many. But that only works as a challenge run if everyone invol knows the game and go laser focus for the bosses and areas that are necessary to get certain items to make your builds etc. These are not multiplayer games to sit back and turn off your brain. It's fine if it doesn't interest you but it's not the game's fault.

  • @Yackattack22
    @Yackattack22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My biggest issue is the balancing, I’m lvl 156, I join my lvl 35 friend’s world to help him get the moon veil and my bloodhound fang did 200 instead of 700. I get the balancing but I effectively did less then my friend. I was absolutely no help a summon would’ve helped more. But when I helped my brother who was lvl 73 I destroyed every boss after Liurnia. The threshold is way to inconsistent

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems the weapon scaling for coop is more an issue than the level scaling. Although with that being said, it’s annoying having less health than a host too when you have 40-60 on main

    • @paolo8665
      @paolo8665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does your max equipment load change too? (According to your summoner’s level)

    • @Yackattack22
      @Yackattack22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paolo8665 all stats change to the level associated with the host. So if the host is lvl175, then the you are also lvl175. So you only have a total of 175 points total in the stat numbers, so if your endurance was the highest or lowest stat it will stay that way numerically wise but it still drops
      Answer: so yes carry weight along with other stats are affected

    • @paolo8665
      @paolo8665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yackattack22 thx G

  • @Skinned_fried_n_cut_up_potato
    @Skinned_fried_n_cut_up_potato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me who’s played 40 hours of almost only multiplayer 👀

  • @BizKit167
    @BizKit167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I'm inviting someone to my world so we can defeat together a boss I'm struggling with, and we do win, so, is that mean I need to fight this boss again when I'm offline like for progressing the story? In other words, can I finish the game story with co op? Or actually co op is just for earnings runes and stuff but it does not actually mean you progressing the story although you do win when using co op..???

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So if you bring someone to your world, then the progress is good for you. If you go to someone else’s world then you do not progress

    • @BizKit167
      @BizKit167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BillytheSkwid well that's kinda surprising cuz in that way you can beat the whole game very easily and you don't have really a challenge here so that's kinda sucks in my opinion.. I think the whole point is first to beat the game by your own without the help of others.. that's the whole idea of this game to have a challenge, but with co op you can beat the game easily so what's the point..

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coop is just another tool that you can use if you hit a roadblock, that’s the intent. You don’t have to use coop, it’s there for people that want and need it. Also coop isn’t an insta win. People that you summon get scaled to your level so they can’t carry you.

    • @BizKit167
      @BizKit167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BillytheSkwid Also I've noticed that if you beat a boss with coop you get way less runes than beating him alone.. I personally think to beat the game first by my own then I'll play coop just for fun but not for progressing cuz the whole idea is to fight and win without friends help but.. that's my opinion..

  • @thegamerfrominside
    @thegamerfrominside ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have definitely just waited for a steam sale if knew this beforehand.its a great game but dam be all why can't I just play with a buddy

  • @Uraveragelocalmetalhead
    @Uraveragelocalmetalhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yea I really want to play this game w friends but is it worth to buy considering the co-op systems?

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do think it is, the coop works fine in dungeons and stuff, just not so much in the open space. Def worth the buy though imo

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought it hoping to play with friends but returned it once it became a struggle to keep doing coop with these systems

    • @christopheryanez
      @christopheryanez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure but if you want a less corrosive and personally a much better CO-OP experience…wait for the Bloodborne Remaster

    • @aislynn001
      @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No.

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. This game is lots of fun to co-op if you and your friends already know the game well. Otherwise you're gonna ruin the experience for yourself. If you're the kinda person who are not into single player games and only want to chill with friends, this game is not for you. However if you like video games you owe to yourself playing Elden Ring. Coop aspects are designed to help each other when you're stuck etc, nothing more nor less, but it's a single player games.

  • @eanderson9599
    @eanderson9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, so let’s say I’ve already beaten the game, but then my friend brought it an I want to help. Should it be a smooth experience then since I’ve already cleared the dungeons?

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It should be a lot smoother yeah. You’ll just warp around and help. It’s a good time

  • @mr.babbles
    @mr.babbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you able to join a way lower level friends game to help, if so how would it weaken me the higher level

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can through passwords, it’ll reduce you health, and will drop your damage based on their weapon level

    • @mr.babbles
      @mr.babbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BillytheSkwid o cool, thanks man, I was trying to find that info everywhere

  • @spousalburrito4939
    @spousalburrito4939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish i could even join someone. I put my sign on the ground next to the bonfire but my friend just cant see it. We got the same password and everything but he cant summon me. I stopped playing elden ring bc of this now over a year later it still doesnt work its so frustrating i dont wanna play this game alone thats sad

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry to hear bout the issues. What platform? Also I’m assuming your friend is using a furlcalling finger remedy right? The online interactions are super weird, sorry it isn’t working out so well.

    • @spousalburrito4939
      @spousalburrito4939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BillytheSkwid im on ps5 and he is on ps4 sometimes it works so we are doing it both right but the game just doesnt want you to play together

  • @manyIsOne
    @manyIsOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The scaling is terrible when you are high level trying to help lower levels. I'm getting 1 shot or hit for half my health no matter what my hp is or talismans. It's kinda dumb.
    Yeah I'm stronger to handle the npcs, but also weaker at the same time.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not sure but I think health scaling is relative to the hosts vigor level. So if you are copping with low vigor friends, you are gonna be scaled down to around their health pool. Again I’m not 100% on this, could just be poor scaling in general.

  • @noahdowns5573
    @noahdowns5573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you rest at grace with friends in my world? Was playing earlier and after we defeated the Tree Sentinel we weren’t able to rest at Grace and replenish ourselves

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You cannot. You can light them but not rest

    • @aislynn001
      @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you can't. You can unlock them if you are the game host, but your summoned companion can't unlock the grace points. No "lost grace discovered" for them. you have to effectively do everything twice. No resting to regain your potions - once they're gone, they're gone, unless you want to re-summon.

  • @kimchigamez1394
    @kimchigamez1394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genshin Impact, the MP is terrible in that. I want traditional Coop where you can play from the start to finish without getting disbanded.

  • @commander0343
    @commander0343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Idk if this is true or not but the more people you have in a world against a boss the stronger the boss seems to get

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is true. The bosses get more health the more people you have.

  • @javziovaldez3024
    @javziovaldez3024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah but most from software games seem like a better solo experience the multi I always felt like was just a helping hand when I was completely stuck. But I completely understand a destiny coop game in a souls world would Be amazing

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they always have and most likely always will be built primarily around the solo experience, with coop taking a backseat, and pvp getting strapped to the roof.

  • @ryangervais76
    @ryangervais76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is there no game like this that does coop right

  • @Ziyoblader
    @Ziyoblader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My biggest problem is that from software doesn't have the best netcode for multiplayer gameplay and an elden ring it's a problem with connections one of my internets simply does not work with elden ring I would bring one of my friends in and they would automatically get booted out anytime and anyone then when I use my phone internet hotspot it works but only for a short time the same thing happens with my other friends when they try to join each other and they have regular internet so it's a big problem for me with the multiplayer aspect of the game the other thing that I don't like but is more of an opinion is the invasions of the way it works I'd be trying to show my friend how to play and where to go to help him out and then I get invaded and some of our builds would be geared to helping one out but when they face someone head on they're useless one of the thing I will add with the multiplayer experience is the lag and desync I would be fighting an invader and then all the sudden he wouldn't take no damage at all no matter how many times I would swing and my friend was saying I was just standing there why he was getting beaten

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you playing on PC. I actually did a video today talking about the PC version just not being stable connection wise

    • @Ziyoblader
      @Ziyoblader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BillytheSkwid yes I'm on PC I bought it on steam and yes the connection drops it's so frustrating like I praise this game as game of the year for single player experience but multiplayer at least the computer side need some work on top of that I wasn't too happy with the 60 FPS cap but even if it was uncapped there seems to be some performance issues that even the consoles have had issues with it's crazy one of my friends has a 3080 TI and it stutters for him at times I have a 1080 TI most of the time it hits 60 but there are some times where it slows down on big areas I was also a bit sad that you can't ride your horse with friends in co-op

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The frame cap has always been limited. Game physics depend on 30-60 frames such as jumps gravity and such. The PC is rough and shouldn’t be.

  • @hallowedjuggler350
    @hallowedjuggler350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never knew what Elden Ring was or that it existed till a few days of release and they told me it was gonna be co-op and we could all play together. I believe them of course so when it came out I saw it wasn’t really too different from the Dark Souls trilogy so I wasn’t really disappointed or felt like I was trick but my friends got upset about it saying the same thing as most people say. So I’m in a weird position where I understand From Software and that this style of multiplayer is how they do it in all their games (that have multiplayer). But I also understand the community that in general had the same impression that multiplayer would be summoning your friend then you wouldn’t lose access to things like your horse, staying around after defeating a boss, different regions being cut off, or sites of grace being cut off completely. I think they made it seem like the co-op would be different from the previous co-op in past games and they made a big deal about it like as if I would be so different. Mistakes happen but I think they should maybe change parts of how co-op works but not everything since some aspects like giving the summon only half of what they have in their own game, having to collect the flowers to be able to summon your friends, bosses getting more tanky and dealing more damage, the summon not being able to harm npc for obvious reasons, or even players being able to invade while playing co-op since it adds risk and a decent challenge. That’s just how I feel on it all but what are your thoughts?

    • @hallowedjuggler350
      @hallowedjuggler350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is my 7 page essay lol

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I 100% agree and it seems like a reasonable thing to ask. They have done major online changes in the past (such as adding pvp matchmaking arenas to DS3) so I would like to think community influence could have them open some of the aspects on multiplayer (such as going from open world, to caves, and maybe horse riding) all good things and I def understand peoples concerns. I feel they should have released specifically a multiplayer based trailer, instead of just showing coop happening in the game trailer with no context since it is so different

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. 99% of the people or "community" knew what this game was. People who thought this was some sort of valheim or Minecraft or dunno exactly what they thought it was, are the incredibly vast minority.

  • @CloudCaptions
    @CloudCaptions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always the worst multiplayer possible. I will not give any darksouls game a single penny of my money until they add proper multiplayer.

  • @jiggy7376
    @jiggy7376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this patched? Or still the same. I’m kinda new in this game. And this video is from 3 weeks ago.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s still the same as far as I know

  • @filiphromis3520
    @filiphromis3520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the game itself is offline like solo but you can play with other people as an option

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep yep yep that’s exactly how it works, and playing coop unlocks pvp

  • @marktedeschi5855
    @marktedeschi5855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s dark souls. This is how dark souls is. It’s always been like this.

  • @kevinbandong9334
    @kevinbandong9334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My brother trying to coop but this game is kill joy. This is stupid and I loss interest to play sometimes. I hope this not going to be game of the year.

  • @hadegamechannel3995
    @hadegamechannel3995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use seamless coop mod to play the co op play you all intended.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s the perfect solution if you’re in PC. Consoles stil suffer though

  • @hadesobsidian5231
    @hadesobsidian5231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, they really did co-op weird af in this one. I mean if you work a dungeon together with a friend, especially one of the legacy ones, it should count for both of you. F* that. You know how boring it would be to conquer like Stormveil the first time with a friend, only to have to go back and progress it all over again solo just so you two can fight Godrick. Maybe a future dlc will implement a more open world co-op. I mean there's a lot of stuff you could do with the game for those who decided to do full co-op. Double the enemy count, make them stronger. Split the amount of runes you get per kill so it slows leveling progression. But still, imagine playing the game solo the first time. Then go back and get to do the whole thing over again, but with a friend next to your side through it all.
    Just seems like there's a lot of potential there.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So the game does give enemies more health and they hit harder depending on how many in coop, and it also does split runes between host and phantoms with host getting the larger chunk. I am with you that they coulda expanded past how they have done coop in the souls games, but I can atleast respect their choice to stick to their vision. I do wish open world to dungeons was more seamless though

    • @hadesobsidian5231
      @hadesobsidian5231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BillytheSkwid Eyyyy 👍

  • @alfalfist
    @alfalfist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought it now disappointed I became elden Lord can't show off my stuff due to poor Co op

  • @TheHandsGamingCommunity
    @TheHandsGamingCommunity 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a great looking game, so sad its not co-op. I think games should have tags such as semi-coop. Because in the world of gaming this isn't considered coop.

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It absolutely is co-op though.

  • @Thesrin
    @Thesrin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a mod coming out for seamless co-op! Look up a youtube Channel called LukeYui.

  • @PJ-hi1gz
    @PJ-hi1gz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Multiplayer is sooo cumbersome. Amazingly fun concept tarnished by lackluster implementation.

  • @silent____6243
    @silent____6243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Almost bought this today for me and my friend. Did some research and I am looking past it now.. truly disappointing. I looked forward to a fun experience and only considered this game for coop. Oh well.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you were planning on getting it on PC there is a mod out now for a seamless coop experience.

    • @alexpoland2998
      @alexpoland2998 ปีที่แล้ว

      Although it may not be relevant to you if you're on console, there is a multiplayer mod called "Seamless Coop" for PC which lets you play full coop with friends!

  • @SexualWhiteChocolate
    @SexualWhiteChocolate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Elden rings multiplayer sucks I’ve beat the game 10 times and still hate the multiplayer more than any game I’ve played to the point where it forces me to player other games with friends. Invasions are nonsensical, as an invader you can only invade when the host is in co op (also taunters tongue but nobody uses that) yet co op is designed for boss fights only so more times than not as an invader you just get kicked when they enter the fog wall. If they simply allowed invasions in singleplayer it would make hunters more relevant and invasions would no longer be two people waiting to double team you in the middle of an open area or they could just take out invasions in total just allowing duels and that would allow you to explore the open world in co-op without fogwalls, allow your horse to be summoned, nor would you have to glow an ugly orange. Anyways just hoping fromsoftware updates their multiplayer design because it’s so outdated it starting to drive some players out.

  • @CroatZg
    @CroatZg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BUT, why not make it so that when you've beaten the game "their way" i.e. the way it was meant to be played, you get the ability/option to replay the game in classical co-op mode...? That would make Elden Ring one of the best games ever.

  • @daniele4568
    @daniele4568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dream game would be Elden Ring built for a co-op playthrough.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think they may do that in the future. As good as ER is I think it was an experiment with this style, and I think they will improve upon it moving forward. That or we could get a massive Coop/PvP update or dlc. Regardless, I think they are aware of this games shortcomings and will improve

  • @RobertSmith-gx3mi
    @RobertSmith-gx3mi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    AS long as you and your friends have most of the same grace points, coop is okay, a bit tedious, but we've created characters specific to coop with.

    • @mrrod3004
      @mrrod3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its not ok, they fkin ruined it..

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrrod3004 Haha ruined what. It works as always has worked in all souls games.

    • @mrrod3004
      @mrrod3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LuismaLorca where talking about 2 different games my dude, just because there the same makers means nothing. It was advertised as coop which it isn't real coop. People have been begging for couch coop for awhile. This could have been one of the greatest coop games ever.

  • @aislynn001
    @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, i really wish someone had told me multiplayer was this way before I bought it.
    The co-op system auto-enabling invasions sucks. It's like if I invited my buddies over and some rando walked in off the street, justifying his presence because I have a "welcome" mat, as he smears feces all over the wall. I bought the game with friends, we all uninstalled last night. We have (respectively) 60-140 hours on our characters (some of us play less). But last night was the last straw. 2 hours of "connection errors" with one or more of us getting dropped, followed by this one guy who invaded us four times and proceeded to run into mobs whenever he was about to die. Yeah, no thanks. Really ruined it for us. I won't buy anything from this company in future.

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody cares.

    • @aislynn001
      @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@LuismaLorca Read your comment, then apply it to your comment. See, I can be a troll, too!

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aislynn001 Not trolling. Elden Ring is one of the most successful games of all time, and Fromsoftware one of the most respected and venerated studios. So, seriously not trolling, it's just that literally nobody cares.

    • @aislynn001
      @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LuismaLorca There's literally a mod going into beta on Friday that will allow co-op players to fast travel with each other, use horses in co-op, death won't break co-op, and you can't get invaded, among other perks.
      So, I guess your "no one cares" theory has officially been tossed in the garbage, where it, and your dismissive attitude, belong.
      Buh bye.

    • @aislynn001
      @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/cMglxlJ175M/w-d-xo.html :)

  • @ArmyJuan1991
    @ArmyJuan1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good points I don’t mind the way coop work in the game think it make its it more fun. The only think I hate about the coop is the invasions. Mostly cuz it’s a waste of time and being impossible to beat the invaders if they have spells and weapons We don’t have yet. And have more potions then you. Remember when me and a friend got invaded we had 3 potions and the invader had like 6 was like what how and why??? But ya I hate invasions if they were Op out for coop. The coop would be way better at least for me.
    Now if invasions were more fair as in have similar weapons and skill.
    Now I’m not that bad at pvp so I do beat some invaders but don’t care it just wasted my time progressing the game with my friend and get nothing really from beating them. So tend to just kill myself or dc to not waste time dealing with the invaders.

  • @vkreptile714
    @vkreptile714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I hate co op on this game they should make it like destiny honestly some people like my girlfriend need help n so on …..I wanted to explore everything with my girlfriend but is trash 💀😞

  • @diamend85
    @diamend85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats shit i am out!
    thanks for the heads up though

  • @inkwyvern5171
    @inkwyvern5171 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elden Ring is utter dogshit, and I'm the most diehard Souls purist out there. From is dead to me

  • @michaelk4480
    @michaelk4480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Elden Ring (like Dark Souls) isn’t a co-op game, it’s a single player game that allows you to ask for help from friends or even strangers.
    The cooperative function is primarily there to benefit people who are struggling, a lifeline to counteract the difficulty. Of course, it also comes with the risk of invasions.
    I do feel bad for people who imagine it works like standard cooperative games. I haven’t seen it marketed that way, but it’s still easy to get that impression from TH-cam.
    The whole thing can be played cooperatively, and it is far easier to do so than in other Souls games, but it is a bit of a hassle.

    • @BillytheSkwid
      @BillytheSkwid  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said

    • @mykelmellen2378
      @mykelmellen2378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "I haven't seen it marketed that way,..."
      THANK YOU. People are so smooth brained these days. Upset at the developers because THEY didn't look into the game at all.

    • @christopheryanez
      @christopheryanez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bloodborne was personally peak CO-OP. Things like defeating the Bell Ringing Lady to prevent invasions made it feel more like a true CO-OP mode. Sucks that Summoning Pools couldn’t have a similar function. Even though it took a minute for signs to show up in BB, I don’t remember experiencing so many connection issues like I did with DS3 and especially with Elden Ring atm. There are times where the game tells me invaders returned to their world, only for them to be invisible and I can’t help my friend out at all. There are times where the Host can see my friend and I but we can’t see each other.
      I really love FromSoft games, they are honestly special and solo play in Elden Ring is honestly their best imo… but they are really lacking when it comes to multiplayer and PvP. Nioh 2 has its fair share of flaws but its multiplayer feels and functions a lot better, the amount of fun I had with Nioh 2’s CO-OP is on another level. They feel better because of how Team Ninja decided to knock out PvP (the most flawed aspect of Souls games) and focus more on PvE/CO-OP. FromSoft doesn’t need to copy/paste but they should take some notes because there is definitely room for improvement. PvE in Elden Ring is for sure an upgrade…why not PvP and CO-OP?

    • @aislynn001
      @aislynn001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MykelMellen There's a way to say things without being a total f*cking jerk. This isn't it.

  • @williamtolliver749
    @williamtolliver749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can do pretty much every thing in the game with coop. The only stuff you can’t is kind of pointless to do in coop.
    You can definitely get this game and play nearly the entire thing through with friends

    • @Red_._.
      @Red_._. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is if your friend wants to olay the game twice

    • @Bleep5980
      @Bleep5980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Red_._. most do anyway with new game plus

  • @marlonschneider722
    @marlonschneider722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The co op is stupid. Elden ring is not a co op game.

    • @LuismaLorca
      @LuismaLorca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's not. It has co-op but it's never intended to be, or sold as a co-op game.

  • @madj7120
    @madj7120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Elden Ring Seamless COOP Mod" - LukeYui
    Go SUPPORT HIM!!!!!