I did a lot of research before purchasing my standard F850GS model and was also considering the F750GS because of its 2" lower standard seat height and my height being only 5'6" with a 30" inseam. After deciding on the F850GS, I opted not to purchase the low seat/suspension F850GS model because it eliminated the Dynamic ESA and center stand both of which I really wanted. I also considered installing a Touratech 25 mm lowering spring kit to the standard F850GS but after consulting with a Touratech tech it was decided that this option would not be a good one for me considering my weight of only 130 lbs and the Touratech springs being designed for heavier riders 180-200 lbs. I instead purchased a standard F850GS model and then added the factory extra-low seat and had my local dealership remove the two plastic shims on the rear shock which lowered the preload, increased rider sag and allows me to sit more comfortably on the bike. Since I still retained the factory Dynamic ESA rear suspension I still have the option of electronically adjusting rear preload for 1 rider, 1 rider + luggage or 2 riders. The decrease in the rear preload by removing the two shims was an important part in adapting the rear suspension to not only better suit my height (30" inseam) but also my weight (130 lbs). The difference of the extra-low seat and removing shims was going from barely getting both feet on the ground with less than 10% rider sag to now having my heels only about 1-1.5" off the ground with approximately 30% rider sag. I do not however recommend removing these rear shims for normal-heavier weight rider. For shorter heavier riders the Touratech progressive lowering springs would still be a better option.
Wow man I was really really looki g for this comment. Could you please PLEASE send me an email showing me which are the 2 plastic shims that you removed to send mine to do so please?
You should have way more subscribers! Such a clear review!! Im actually thinking about buying a F750GS right now, a demo model from 2018 with only 3800 km... for 10.000 euro! its quite a good deal imo
Hey, Pedro! We are! After a great summer where we went through 19 countries on our bikes, we have footage and video scripts to last us well into the winter :-)
Hello you two, that is a great contribution - both thumbs up! Only a few days ago, I tried to test drive the F850GS, unfortunately without success > she is in the standard version for me with 172cm too high, or my legs are too short - however. I then drove the F750GS to get an idea of the engine and the gadgets - I have to say it fits. Now it would be cool to get a link from you for this kit. Because the seller at BMW says that there is nothing. :-( But you have shown me, there is something! Thank you very much! I'm looking forward to more videos on the two bikes, keep up the good work! Thank you! Greetings from Baden-Württemberg / Germany
Hello! Here’s the link to the parts: hyperpro.com/bmw-f850gs-f750gs/ Here’s one from Touratech in case your dealer has an easier time getting it from them. Not sure if it’s the exact same kit rebranded by Touratech or not, but product photos are near identical (which leads me to suspect it in fact is the same kit, just rebranded): shop.touratech.de/height-lowering-kit-40mm-for-bmw-f850gs-bmw-f850gs-adventure-from-2018-replacement-springs.html
I’m really short, just 5’1” (154 cm). I like the F750 GS and have sat on one with standard height chassis and extra low seat (medieval torture devise). I’m on very tips of toes and barely manageable with one foot down. I think I will buy that configuration and then buy the hyperpro lowering spring as you have discussed. I sat on an F750GS with the low chassis height and extra low seat a couple of years ago and it fit me amazingly well. I was so excited but had no money 💵 😢. Since the hyperpro lowering option allows me to keep Dynamic ESA and center stand I think it’s the better option. I will get the side and center stands shortened afterwards.
I lowered my 11/2020 bmw f850gs adv progressive front and rear hyperpro touratech kit 25mm Major difference, top upgrade for the bike, best purchase ever. If you have problem with the stand, you can use the esa, change the height of the bike from one helmet maybe to 2 helmets and just use the stand.
Great review. Many thanks for sharing your experience. Just one comment: By using progressive springs to lower your bike you do not change the total suspension length. Just the sag caused by the bikes weight is different. When the bike is on the center stand it then has exactly the same geometry as with standard springs. Both front and rear suspension are fully extended. Hence you cannot reduce the height/length of the center stand. Am I right?
Actually, the bike’s weight will compress it. The center stand ended up being too long. We tried with a center stand from a 750, but it too was too long. Had to take it to a welder to shorten it.
Absolutely right! Video maker has lack of understanding in this matter... Shortened center stand will be good for nothing, not to mention the fact, that shortened actuator end overcome to passenger footrest :) Sorry for my bad english
@@lehelkadar23 bonjour je voulais savoir si tu as monté ce kit d'abaissement -40 mm à l'avant et à l'arrière car je ne suis pas du tout content à l'avant je n'ai quasiment plus d'abaissement à la limite du dangereux est se que tu as le même problème ?
Hello, I find the 850gs to be a real handful at zero speeds like moving into and out of the garage, does the reduced height make the bike a bit more managable with a lower CoG? Great channel, thanks John
I’ve been on BMW 1200GSs for 15 years. I’m 74 now and recently had back surgery, I now find the big GS is too much for me. I thinking of a F850 but I need the seat height of 31” or so. Maybe I should be looking at a 310 GS?
I noticed a big difference when braking, before I installed the kit , the ,bike would nose dive alot more z now with the brakes it does not nose dive as much
Hi, Thank you for the video, I am actually searching for information on this topic as the BMW F850GS I'm looking at and would like to purchase seems to be lowered. Can I ask how can I check and know for sure it is lowered, as the seller don't have documentation if it is? Thank you and keep up the good work.
I really wish you would have added how you lowered the rear of the bike I'm definitely considering this option but I don't see anything on terratech that says they lower the rear and obviously there's going to be a raking problem if you don't
Do you think I will notice the difference on a KTM 1290 Adventure R? I just ordered a spring that lowers the height of the seat by 3 cm... do you recommend it if you have already tried it?
Wow, thank you so much for this video! I just purchased this kit from hyperpro for my 850 gs as well, and have been worrying about the install. You mention that you were able to maintain your warranty by having the dealer install the kit. Would you happen to know if this is true for the United States as well? Also how much did they charge you for the install? Here in the states the dealership charges on a per hour basis. Awesome video!
Hey, Gonzo! You're most welcome! I couldn't say, but I would guess so, since if it's an authorised dealer, they'll have to take responsibility for the work they do. But do double check that with your dealer! There's also a near identical kit from Touratech as well. Looking at the pictures, I think it's just a rebranded Hyperpro, but I could be wrong about that. Oh, and we paid somewhere around €350 (USD $385) for the whole thing, including the installation, so around €100'ish for the work. As I understood it, it's not a big effort to install them, if you're an experienced mechanic.
Hello guys. Great video! Miguel, did you buy a new side stand? If so, from where? If you kept the same, how much shorter did you have to make it? Thanks!
Yes, BMW has side stand for the factory lowered option. We’re using that. The central stand is trickier, since there’s no OEM center stand for the factory lowered bikes. The one from 750 was too short (we tried that). The original for the 850 was taken to a welder to be shortened, which is the one that’s on now. It wasn’t shortened quite enough, though, so it requires a bit of elbow grease to get up. Next week we’ll have one from a 750 built up by a few cm and try that instead, which seems like the better way forward 👍
@@MotorcycleTourists sorry man, Without entire (original)hight, it worth nothing, becouse will not lift rear wheel, decompressed springs will push out wheels exactly like standard config, no restriction for reverse travel... That s the reason why feature missing in factory lowered version.
Great review, thanks. Does this kit lower the bike more then the factory kit? GF has 750 with factory lowered kit and it's good but another cm would do the trick.....
hello I mounted the lowering kit HYPERPRO BMW F850 GS -40mm year 2019 front and rear I find that the lowering of the front fork is very short to the limit of the dangerous I wanted to know if other people on them this same problem.
Hello I mounted the HYPERPRO BMW F850 GS -40mm year 2019 lowering kit front and rear I find that the lowering of the front fork is very short, bordering on dangerous I wanted to know if other people have had this same problem . excuse me for my english
Hi, that lowering kit interacts well with dynamic esa? I am curious why BMW opt for not offering both option together... Used before with satisfaction on F800gs, ordered also for f850gs, Hyperpro said is compatible w. D.ESA
I am thinking of applying hyperpro to my f750gs. But can you explain why the side and center stand don't work when lowered? Because I guess it takes effect to reduce the clearance above the swing arm. Of course front height will also get lowered a bit, so does the lowering of the front make that impact on the clearance of the swing arm from the ground?
hello I wanted to know if you have mounted this kit of lowering -40 mm to the front and the rear because I am not happy at all in the front I have almost no more lowering at the limit of the dangerous
Guys, because of the price, in Brazil, i'm between f750 premium (ESA), and f850 lowering kit (factory) (+ R$ 1.000,00 / $ 250,00). I'm not a hardcore offroad, but I like the 850, and I think the smarter choice is 750. Please, help me.
great video, I am planing to get for my wife BMW GS 310, do you know if they have the same kit for that bike, love your channel, keep up good work, thank you!!!
@@pierrelevyimmobilier2631 all dealers do. But you can go to a Saddle specialist and got to a shock specialist. The kit is actually a lower saddle and shorter shock.
Hello, Kuldeep! That's a really tough question for me to answer! I'd say buy the one you like better. Both are supremely competent bikes. If you want something that's a little lighter and nimbler and easier to handle off-road, then go with the 850. If you want a machine that eats a hundred miles for breakfast without breaking a sweat, go for the 1250. The 1250 fits my driving style and preferences a bit better than the 850, but it might be the exact opposite for you! What are you looking for in a bike? Will you be doing mostly off-road, or on-road? Twisties, or city driving? Long tours, or just around the vicinity?
@@MotorcycleTourists most of the time i will be on road but i want to do off roading also. Like crossing high mountain passes. am i going to miss features which comes with 1250 gs pro or standard features good enough
They are marketed different here. I don’t know what the standard and pro packages include. Here, we have a bunch of packages. Nevertheless, I’m guessing the standard doesn’t come fully kitted out, which the pro does?
By far my favourite biking channel on TH-cam. Great to see a new upload. Good work guys. Keep them coming!
Thanks, Kit! That made my day :-)
@@MotorcycleTourists I also agree with MrKitPrice, I stumbled on your GS review and loved it. Are you a father and son team?
I did a lot of research before purchasing my standard F850GS model and was also considering the F750GS because of its 2" lower standard seat height and my height being only 5'6" with a 30" inseam. After deciding on the F850GS, I opted not to purchase the low seat/suspension F850GS model because it eliminated the Dynamic ESA and center stand both of which I really wanted. I also considered installing a Touratech 25 mm lowering spring kit to the standard F850GS but after consulting with a Touratech tech it was decided that this option would not be a good one for me considering my weight of only 130 lbs and the Touratech springs being designed for heavier riders 180-200 lbs. I instead purchased a standard F850GS model and then added the factory extra-low seat and had my local dealership remove the two plastic shims on the rear shock which lowered the preload, increased rider sag and allows me to sit more comfortably on the bike. Since I still retained the factory Dynamic ESA rear suspension I still have the option of electronically adjusting rear preload for 1 rider, 1 rider + luggage or 2 riders. The decrease in the rear preload by removing the two shims was an important part in adapting the rear suspension to not only better suit my height (30" inseam) but also my weight (130 lbs). The difference of the extra-low seat and removing shims was going from barely getting both feet on the ground with less than 10% rider sag to now having my heels only about 1-1.5" off the ground with approximately 30% rider sag. I do not however recommend removing these rear shims for normal-heavier weight rider. For shorter heavier riders the Touratech progressive lowering springs would still be a better option.
Wow man I was really really looki g for this comment. Could you please PLEASE send me an email showing me which are the 2 plastic shims that you removed to send mine to do so please?
You should have way more subscribers! Such a clear review!!
Im actually thinking about buying a F750GS right now, a demo model from 2018 with only 3800 km... for 10.000 euro! its quite a good deal imo
Thanks, Colin! Glad you liked the video :-)
@@MotorcycleTourists you guys made me buy a 750gs!! Love the bike
Finally you are back👍 greetings from 🇬🇧🇵🇹
Hey, Pedro! We are! After a great summer where we went through 19 countries on our bikes, we have footage and video scripts to last us well into the winter :-)
@@MotorcycleTourists thank you guys, can't wait for the next videos. Your channel is awesome 👍👍👍
Hello you two, that is a great contribution - both thumbs up! Only a few days ago, I tried to test drive the F850GS, unfortunately without success > she is in the standard version for me with 172cm too high, or my legs are too short - however. I then drove the F750GS to get an idea of the engine and the gadgets - I have to say it fits. Now it would be cool to get a link from you for this kit. Because the seller at BMW says that there is nothing. :-( But you have shown me, there is something! Thank you very much! I'm looking forward to more videos on the two bikes, keep up the good work! Thank you! Greetings from Baden-Württemberg / Germany
Hello! Here’s the link to the parts:
hyperpro.com/bmw-f850gs-f750gs/
Here’s one from Touratech in case your dealer has an easier time getting it from them. Not sure if it’s the exact same kit rebranded by Touratech or not, but product photos are near identical (which leads me to suspect it in fact is the same kit, just rebranded):
shop.touratech.de/height-lowering-kit-40mm-for-bmw-f850gs-bmw-f850gs-adventure-from-2018-replacement-springs.html
@@MotorcycleTourists Its is the same one
Awesome review! May have just solved my challenge with the 850
I’m really short, just 5’1” (154 cm). I like the F750 GS and have sat on one with standard height chassis and extra low seat (medieval torture devise). I’m on very tips of toes and barely manageable with one foot down. I think I will buy that configuration and then buy the hyperpro lowering spring as you have discussed. I sat on an F750GS with the low chassis height and extra low seat a couple of years ago and it fit me amazingly well. I was so excited but had no money 💵 😢. Since the hyperpro lowering option allows me to keep Dynamic ESA and center stand I think it’s the better option. I will get the side and center stands shortened afterwards.
I lowered my 11/2020 bmw f850gs adv
progressive front and rear hyperpro touratech kit 25mm
Major difference, top upgrade for the bike, best purchase ever.
If you have problem with the stand, you can use the esa, change the height of the bike from one helmet maybe to 2 helmets and just use the stand.
Cordial saludo, me podría compartir el link de donde compro el kit
Thanks this was very helpful! Much appreciated!
Cheers, glad you liked it! :-)
Great review. Many thanks for sharing your experience.
Just one comment: By using progressive springs to lower your bike you do not change the total suspension length. Just the sag caused by the bikes weight is different. When the bike is on the center stand it then has exactly the same geometry as with standard springs. Both front and rear suspension are fully extended. Hence you cannot reduce the height/length of the center stand. Am I right?
Actually, the bike’s weight will compress it. The center stand ended up being too long. We tried with a center stand from a 750, but it too was too long. Had to take it to a welder to shorten it.
Absolutely right! Video maker has lack of understanding in this matter...
Shortened center stand will be good for nothing, not to mention the fact, that shortened actuator end overcome to passenger footrest :)
Sorry for my bad english
@@lehelkadar23
bonjour je voulais savoir si tu as monté ce kit d'abaissement -40 mm à l'avant et à l'arrière car je ne suis pas du tout content à l'avant je n'ai quasiment plus d'abaissement à la limite du dangereux est se que tu as le même problème ?
@@xavieraregay3066 Kit means front and rear.
It maintain original geometry.
No issues, never look back.
Also 4 cm is a big difference, it's the difference between skidding some speed bumps or not , with weight on the bike
Hello, I find the 850gs to be a real handful at zero speeds like moving into and out of the garage, does the reduced height make the bike a bit more managable with a lower CoG?
Great channel, thanks
John
Have you tried raising the suspension all the way up to make lowering the center stand easier?
I’ve been on BMW 1200GSs for 15 years. I’m 74 now and recently had back surgery, I now find the big GS is too much for me. I thinking of a F850 but I need the seat height of 31” or so. Maybe I should be looking at a 310 GS?
I noticed a big difference when braking, before I installed the kit , the ,bike would nose dive alot more z now with the brakes it does not nose dive as much
Hi, Thank you for the video, I am actually searching for information on this topic as the BMW F850GS I'm looking at and would like to purchase seems to be lowered. Can I ask how can I check and know for sure it is lowered, as the seller don't have documentation if it is? Thank you and keep up the good work.
I really wish you would have added how you lowered the rear of the bike I'm definitely considering this option but I don't see anything on terratech that says they lower the rear and obviously there's going to be a raking problem if you don't
Do you think I will notice the difference on a KTM 1290 Adventure R? I just ordered a spring that lowers the height of the seat by 3 cm... do you recommend it if you have already tried it?
Wow, thank you so much for this video! I just purchased this kit from hyperpro for my 850 gs as well, and have been worrying about the install. You mention that you were able to maintain your warranty by having the dealer install the kit. Would you happen to know if this is true for the United States as well? Also how much did they charge you for the install? Here in the states the dealership charges on a per hour basis. Awesome video!
Hey, Gonzo! You're most welcome! I couldn't say, but I would guess so, since if it's an authorised dealer, they'll have to take responsibility for the work they do. But do double check that with your dealer! There's also a near identical kit from Touratech as well. Looking at the pictures, I think it's just a rebranded Hyperpro, but I could be wrong about that. Oh, and we paid somewhere around €350 (USD $385) for the whole thing, including the installation, so around €100'ish for the work. As I understood it, it's not a big effort to install them, if you're an experienced mechanic.
Your boots look sturdy and thick..what brand are they?
I've a 30' inseam an F700GS with low saddle and I can manage well enough
Hello guys. Great video! Miguel, did you buy a new side stand? If so, from where? If you kept the same, how much shorter did you have to make it? Thanks!
Yes, BMW has side stand for the factory lowered option. We’re using that. The central stand is trickier, since there’s no OEM center stand for the factory lowered bikes. The one from 750 was too short (we tried that). The original for the 850 was taken to a welder to be shortened, which is the one that’s on now. It wasn’t shortened quite enough, though, so it requires a bit of elbow grease to get up. Next week we’ll have one from a 750 built up by a few cm and try that instead, which seems like the better way forward 👍
@@MotorcycleTourists sorry man,
Without entire (original)hight, it worth nothing, becouse will not lift rear wheel, decompressed springs will push out wheels exactly like standard config, no restriction for reverse travel...
That s the reason why feature missing in factory lowered version.
Great review, thanks. Does this kit lower the bike more then the factory kit? GF has 750 with factory lowered kit and it's good but another cm would do the trick.....
Hey! Glad you liked it! It lowers the exact same amount (40mm) as the factory lowering.
Good stuff.👍 That windshield on the 850 looks much bigger than OEM.. oh wait! You have a windshield video. I see ok 😂
hello I mounted the lowering kit HYPERPRO BMW F850 GS -40mm year 2019 front and rear I find that the lowering of the front fork is very short to the limit of the dangerous I wanted to know if other people on them this same problem.
Hello
I mounted the HYPERPRO BMW F850 GS -40mm year 2019 lowering kit front and rear I find that the lowering of the front fork is very short, bordering on dangerous I wanted to know if other people have had this same problem .
excuse me for my english
Hi,
that lowering kit interacts well with dynamic esa?
I am curious why BMW opt for not offering both option together...
Used before with satisfaction on F800gs, ordered also for f850gs, Hyperpro said is compatible w. D.ESA
How did it work out with ESA?
I am thinking of applying hyperpro to my f750gs. But can you explain why the side and center stand don't work when lowered? Because I guess it takes effect to reduce the clearance above the swing arm. Of course front height will also get lowered a bit, so does the lowering of the front make that impact on the clearance of the swing arm from the ground?
hello I wanted to know if you have mounted this kit of lowering -40 mm to the front and the rear because I am not happy at all in the front I have almost no more lowering at the limit of the dangerous
@@xavieraregay3066 It's a combi kit. For front and back springs.
Hi, there is a myth regarding spring position, tests have shown the spring position is irrelevant.
Guys, because of the price, in Brazil, i'm between f750 premium (ESA), and f850 lowering kit (factory) (+ R$ 1.000,00 / $ 250,00). I'm not a hardcore offroad, but I like the 850, and I think the smarter choice is 750. Please, help me.
great video, I am planing to get for my wife BMW GS 310, do you know if they have the same kit for that bike, love your channel, keep up good work, thank you!!!
Hey! Yes, they do:
hyperpro.com/bmw-g310-gs-suspension-solutions/
BMW offer lower seat from factory. This didn’t work for you?
Hey! No, the bike was still too tall. We have the low seat already, but still needed to lower the bike.
Hi guys many thanks for the review, very interesting info, could you give us the Ref Of the low kit ? Hello From France
@@pierrelevyimmobilier2631 all dealers do. But you can go to a Saddle specialist and got to a shock specialist. The kit is actually a lower saddle and shorter shock.
Miguel, what height are you and what is your inside leg pls. Thanks soo much and great no nonsense channel!
Hey! Miguel and I are both 178cm with 30” (29.5’ish actually) inseams 🤠 Also, glad you like our content! Means the world to us 👍
Can I ask how tall each of you gents are for comparison? Thanks!
Hey, Jeff! Sorry for the late reply! We’re 178cm tall with 30” inseams 👍
Sir i am going to buy adv bike of bmw. I am thinking about bmw f 850 gs pro or bmw r 1250 gs standard. which one should i buy
Hello, Kuldeep! That's a really tough question for me to answer! I'd say buy the one you like better. Both are supremely competent bikes. If you want something that's a little lighter and nimbler and easier to handle off-road, then go with the 850. If you want a machine that eats a hundred miles for breakfast without breaking a sweat, go for the 1250. The 1250 fits my driving style and preferences a bit better than the 850, but it might be the exact opposite for you! What are you looking for in a bike? Will you be doing mostly off-road, or on-road? Twisties, or city driving? Long tours, or just around the vicinity?
@@MotorcycleTourists most of the time i will be on road but i want to do off roading also. Like crossing high mountain passes. am i going to miss features which comes with 1250 gs pro or standard features good enough
@@MotorcycleTourists sir also like to add i will be doing lots of long tours and twisties
They are marketed different here. I don’t know what the standard and pro packages include. Here, we have a bunch of packages. Nevertheless, I’m guessing the standard doesn’t come fully kitted out, which the pro does?
Where can I buy super moto wheels like that?
Sorry? Super Moto wheels?