Thinking the best review for this bike, I’ve seen. No marketing data but true exp. Thanks! Wondering to own adventure version for touring with my significant other.
I can easily say that you do some of the best reviews of current bikes right now. I know you can only do as many bikes as you have time for, but if I'm interested in something, I generally check here first. Thanks.
I'll wait for adventure version. Had a test ride the other day. Liked it very much. I would have to set the handle bar higher. I found it very easy in offroad, I felt confident in such condition. Tnx for review!
Greets from Australia. Great review mate, particularly considering English is not your first language. This is by far the best review on TH-cam. Subscribed. Cheers
weird what he said about the sound. today I went to look at one and after talking about swapping out exhaust the whole time I got to hear it start up and I think it sounded great stock and I don't normally say that.
@@GeordiLaForgery u can have the lower seat option which will reduces the seat height to 835 mm,and still if its too high u can lower the suspension by 815 mm
Isn’t the stock windshield on the older gen about the same? I found the stock windshield the best for standing on the pegs, whereas my helmet’s chin would constantly touch the touratech windscreen.
Never happen. If you are in that serious of an accident you go up and over the front. The impact of what is in front of the motorbike is what kills you.
Last review I saw from somone that actually reviews bikes said this bike is too heavy, and too expensive making it something to skip past, and just get the 1200. BMW wasn't thinking straight when they put this bike together. It's a shame, and maybe it's "just business", but it's not an appropriate purchase for your money.
Pretty comprehensive, good job. As for the bike... good effort but the usual BMW disease, toys come as standard, basic things are expensive extras. You'd have to spend a fair bit of money on that to get it in an off road state... and you can never fix the ridiculous 15L fuel tank. Bzzt!
I have to agree with you 100%. Honestly, give me analog gauges, adjustable suspension, at least 5 gallon fuel tank, robust skid plate/crash bars and I'd be hysterically happy.
Yeah what BMW chooses to make standard and what they don't offer at all are bizarre. Why they don't put on a real skid plate is baffling. Maybe we'll have to wait for a GSA version.
Film Herald that fuel tank was clearly specified to make sure there's room for the GSA. BMW make good bikes, I don't understand why they feel like they have to play these games.
Have you ridden the Tiger XCA? If so, how does this compare? I'm hoping to buy one of the two this year. The BMW is not yet available in the US so I'm waiting.
I just tested F750GS today its not the engine that is silent, when you speed up you can hear nothing but the wind because there is no f*cking wind protection :)
Dear Friend: I think you are the most balanced opinion that i have read about comparisons between the Honda AT and the BMW #f850gs Two great bikes wich I have in my dreams (I am owner of F800GS 2016) Yes. Five months ago. I know... but totally in force nowadays. And there are pros and cons about #f850 as well. Very honest. Seriously. I think that you are the only one (that I can remember( who realize (or talking about) the changes in the gravity center. I mean tank fuel: "With f800gs you felt the center beneath the legs" (12:00 to 13:00 aprox.) I don't know if it's definitively worse or better. But different, obviously. Respect...! (By the way: recently I uploaded your video in our F850GS Facebook group. Mi"personal" nick in FB is "Elmese Motolover")
nice vid :D can u review about triumph bobber?? i saw ur vid about triumph t120 and scrambler. then i want know ur evaluation about triumph bobber. thank you !!
@@12masterr this was 3 months ago, meanwhile ive upgraded to a 1200gsa. I use my motorcycle at least five days a week, all year, can't really rely on a chinese power plant.
Seems so, I own a base 850 GS. The design shown here is the highest trim level, the vibration through the frame is almost non-existant through all rev ranges.
BMW never follows. Fuel being under the seat was the best idea that KTM followed. I will stick with my F800 and BMW is going backwards and following Honda? Thanks
great bike. i dont like these huge piles of iron (GS1200, Super Tenere, Africa Twin...) they dare to call adventure bikes. guess most people just want a smooth to ride, comfortable touring bike. it just got that nasty enduro look to feed the myths and to end all the "what if" questions. just like SUVs most of them never see a trail or any serious offroad terrain. btw i love when the exhaust of an adventure bike is being criticized. well, if you want it louder - go and buy it. if you are on a real adventure 3days+ (not even talking about world travellers etc) - you will be sick and tired of a loud bike. so given its purpose, an exhaust like that fits the bike very well. and hell yes i like deep voluminous motor sounds, who doesnt? but, there are other bikes for that.
Loved the off-road demo at the end. I think people lose sight of the fact that putting the fuel tank in the traditional place puts weight on the front which plants that front tire in the turns. My biggest concerns would be the tiny fuel capacity and that it is an unproven Chinese manufactured engine. Unless I've missed it and the engine has been used in a motorcycle for the past 5 years or so. Still, I would suppose that BMW would stand behind it.
I also have both (temporarily). Keep in mind this is a BMW engine that is manufactured in China. I believe all Tiger 800’s are now built in Thailand. This is the reality of globalization of design and manufacturing. I far prefer the 850 engine to the one on the 800, in fact that was my main motivation for changing. The Rotax on the 800 is bulletproof but a bit crude and buzzy. I am hoping the Chinese built 850 engine is good long term durability and reliability wise. I was a bit concerned about the smaller tank too, but my initial experience is the range is very similar, in fact my l/100km on the 850 are better than what i was getting on the 800.
Yeah and more reliable. I don't know what BMW was thinking when they outsourced their new 850 engine to China. Probably just had dollar signs in their eyes.
i have a 2014 f800gs standard 410lb dry...the 2014 r1200gs 505lb dry...everybody! keeps saying their almost the same weight....??..the f800 is on a dirt bike frame..bmw did wrong on the 850..you are right just get a 1200...the 800 class is dead...sad I love my bike but no more weight please
@@dallen8997 you obviously didn't know or rode the new one,I also have the old 800,and just bought the new adventure 850,and there is so much better than is not even a comparation
Of all the things to nitpick, you cite a sound as being a negative? Pick something substantive, leave the things that are user preference based out of it.
Suspension spring rate is optimized for someone of 70 Kg...I would venture that was a serious mistake since that can not be the average for people, with gear, tall enough to ride the bike. Ridiculous really.
So you like the Africa Twin? Every other word out of your mouth was Africa Twin. News flash-Japanese vehicles are cheaper and thus come with more features for less money. It’s because their employees live in shacks made out of pallets and they live on bags of rice. That’s why their products are cheap. If everyone else paid their employees with rice and everyone lived in shacks then all the bikes would have more features for less. The catch is nobody would be able to afford to buy one. Boycott anything made in China and Japan.
I am 190 cm, so your reviews are very much relevant. Will watch them in the future. Good detail in the reviews, lot of information.
Thinking the best review for this bike, I’ve seen. No marketing data but true exp. Thanks! Wondering to own adventure version for touring with my significant other.
I can easily say that you do some of the best reviews of current bikes right now.
I know you can only do as many bikes as you have time for, but if I'm interested in something, I generally check here first.
Thanks.
I'll wait for adventure version. Had a test ride the other day. Liked it very much. I would have to set the handle bar higher. I found it very easy in offroad, I felt confident in such condition. Tnx for review!
Another great video and you'r english is getting better, keep up the Good work
Thanks Malcolm. I appreciate it :)
Excellent English to be honest, and a great review
Greets from Australia. Great review mate, particularly considering English is not your first language. This is by far the best review on TH-cam. Subscribed. Cheers
Thanks for shooting in 4k!
Really great review, touched on everything I was looking to learn about this bike. Nicely done! Just subscribed to ensure I don't miss any.
Really great ,otorbike, one of my dreams!
A very thorough review. I liked it.
Awesome review!
It's THE FIRST TIME THAT I REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REEL REVIEW
NICE REVIEW MATE.. LOVE THAT BIKE
weird what he said about the sound. today I went to look at one and after talking about swapping out exhaust the whole time I got to hear it start up and I think it sounded great stock and I don't normally say that.
Great bike and review, I think bmw should as standard give the "comfort" seat, tall screen and good exhaust.
Hi Geordi. I agree. At least the screen would be really handy... Thanks
You're welcome, yeah I agree - manufacturers should stop costing tall people more for buffeting, it's unfair.
@@GeordiLaForgery u can have the lower seat option which will reduces the seat height to 835 mm,and still if its too high u can lower the suspension by 815 mm
He alone has such beautiful hands
Great review!
Thks for the review.
You're welcome :))
Isn’t the stock windshield on the older gen about the same? I found the stock windshield the best for standing on the pegs, whereas my helmet’s chin would constantly touch the touratech windscreen.
I keep thinking that the tank is too steep. If I get into an accident, the tank wall will probably brake the pelvis.
Never happen. If you are in that serious of an accident you go up and over the front. The impact of what is in front of the motorbike is what kills you.
good review, whats your decision between Africa Twin and BMW 850GS?
Hello, thank's for sharing your experiences! I'd like to ask, how do you see the f850 compared to Yamaha tenere 700?
Last review I saw from somone that actually reviews bikes said this bike is too heavy, and too expensive making it something to skip past, and just get the 1200. BMW wasn't thinking straight when they put this bike together. It's a shame, and maybe it's "just business", but it's not an appropriate purchase for your money.
Im thinking in buying the complet version for my first bike, what can you tell me?
Pretty comprehensive, good job. As for the bike... good effort but the usual BMW disease, toys come as standard, basic things are expensive extras. You'd have to spend a fair bit of money on that to get it in an off road state... and you can never fix the ridiculous 15L fuel tank. Bzzt!
I have to agree with you 100%. Honestly, give me analog gauges, adjustable suspension, at least 5 gallon fuel tank, robust skid plate/crash bars and I'd be hysterically happy.
Yeah what BMW chooses to make standard and what they don't offer at all are bizarre. Why they don't put on a real skid plate is baffling. Maybe we'll have to wait for a GSA version.
Film Herald that fuel tank was clearly specified to make sure there's room for the GSA. BMW make good bikes, I don't understand why they feel like they have to play these games.
Have you ridden the Tiger XCA? If so, how does this compare? I'm hoping to buy one of the two this year. The BMW is not yet available in the US so I'm waiting.
Which one would you recommend between Truimph tiger 800 Xcx and BMW FS 850?
I just tested F750GS today its not the engine that is silent, when you speed up you can hear nothing but the wind because there is no f*cking wind protection :)
F850GS BMW. Or T120 truimph bonnevvel wish your preferred? 🧐
Dear Friend: I think you are the most balanced opinion that i have read about comparisons between the Honda AT and the BMW #f850gs
Two great bikes wich I have in my dreams (I am owner of F800GS 2016)
Yes. Five months ago. I know... but totally in force nowadays.
And there are pros and cons about #f850 as well.
Very honest.
Seriously.
I think that you are the only one (that I can remember( who realize (or talking about) the changes in the gravity center.
I mean tank fuel: "With f800gs you felt the center beneath the legs" (12:00 to 13:00 aprox.)
I don't know if it's definitively worse or better. But different, obviously.
Respect...!
(By the way: recently I uploaded your video in our F850GS Facebook group. Mi"personal" nick in FB is "Elmese Motolover")
F850GS facebook group: facebook.com/groups/949597331875637/
nice vid :D
can u review about triumph bobber??
i saw ur vid about triumph t120 and scrambler. then i want know ur evaluation about triumph bobber.
thank you !!
I would be okay with that 850 GS . good size for off road riding and lite pack touring.
That is what I use it for now.
What GPS is that?
Were you super excited? I have a F800GS and I am not at all considering that one
I also own a 800gs and I really like the 850gs. But trading a rotax engine for a loncin chinese made engine? It didnt go well for the g650gs
@@jigrodrigues I have both,the old 800,and the new adventure,and the rotopax is a piece of agricultural crap compared to the new one.
@@12masterr this was 3 months ago, meanwhile ive upgraded to a 1200gsa. I use my motorcycle at least five days a week, all year, can't really rely on a chinese power plant.
@@jigrodrigues good for you!
Tube tires or tubeless? Thx
adrian bantinesti tubeless.
Bruh it sounds amazing. So now the bmw has a 270 crank like the rest?
Seems so, I own a base 850 GS. The design shown here is the highest trim level, the vibration through the frame is almost non-existant through all rev ranges.
BMW never follows. Fuel being under the seat was the best idea that KTM followed. I will stick with my F800 and BMW is going backwards and following Honda? Thanks
dose it come with cruise control?
Yes
I prefer the old F800GS
great bike. i dont like these huge piles of iron (GS1200, Super Tenere, Africa Twin...) they dare to call adventure bikes.
guess most people just want a smooth to ride, comfortable touring bike. it just got that nasty enduro look to feed the myths and to end all the "what if" questions.
just like SUVs most of them never see a trail or any serious offroad terrain.
btw i love when the exhaust of an adventure bike is being criticized.
well, if you want it louder - go and buy it.
if you are on a real adventure 3days+ (not even talking about world travellers etc) - you will be sick and tired of a loud bike.
so given its purpose, an exhaust like that fits the bike very well.
and hell yes i like deep voluminous motor sounds, who doesnt?
but, there are other bikes for that.
Loved the off-road demo at the end.
I think people lose sight of the fact that putting the fuel tank in the traditional place puts weight on the front which plants that front tire in the turns. My biggest concerns would be the tiny fuel capacity and that it is an unproven Chinese manufactured engine. Unless I've missed it and the engine has been used in a motorcycle for the past 5 years or so. Still, I would suppose that BMW would stand behind it.
The new engine is a evolution of the old one and 10 times better,I have both so I know!
I also have both (temporarily). Keep in mind this is a BMW engine that is manufactured in China. I believe all Tiger 800’s are now built in Thailand. This is the reality of globalization of design and manufacturing. I far prefer the 850 engine to the one on the 800, in fact that was my main motivation for changing. The Rotax on the 800 is bulletproof but a bit crude and buzzy. I am hoping the Chinese built 850 engine is good long term durability and reliability wise. I was a bit concerned about the smaller tank too, but my initial experience is the range is very similar, in fact my l/100km on the 850 are better than what i was getting on the 800.
@@davidturnbull2999 Thank you! Thats what we need, reasonable real world information and comparison with the previous generation.
I DON'T SEE THE POINT , GS 1200 IS NEAR ON SAME WEIGHT , MORE POWER , MORE FUEL ?
...you did not rode a bike like that OFFROAD doyou? once you do you will stop asking shit! :)
Yeah and more reliable. I don't know what BMW was thinking when they outsourced their new 850 engine to China. Probably just had dollar signs in their eyes.
i have a 2014 f800gs standard 410lb dry...the 2014 r1200gs 505lb dry...everybody! keeps saying their almost the same weight....??..the f800 is on a dirt bike frame..bmw did wrong on the 850..you are right just get a 1200...the 800 class is dead...sad I love my bike but no more weight please
@@dallen8997 you obviously didn't know or rode the new one,I also have the old 800,and just bought the new adventure 850,and there is so much better than is not even a comparation
@@12masterr I was talking weight.. the 850 is not a middleweight bike its to heavy...
The starship enterprise
Of all the things to nitpick, you cite a sound as being a negative? Pick something substantive, leave the things that are user preference based out of it.
hmm sounded ok for the crazy regulations we have to comply to these days
Suspension spring rate is optimized for someone of 70 Kg...I would venture that was a serious mistake since that can not be the average for people, with gear, tall enough to ride the bike. Ridiculous really.
F800 looked better than this
Da fuk is a F 100-850 GS?
So you like the Africa Twin? Every other word out of your mouth was Africa Twin. News flash-Japanese vehicles are cheaper and thus come with more features for less money. It’s because their employees live in shacks made out of pallets and they live on bags of rice. That’s why their products are cheap. If everyone else paid their employees with rice and everyone lived in shacks then all the bikes would have more features for less. The catch is nobody would be able to afford to buy one. Boycott anything made in China and Japan.