DO NOT USE POR15! This is what ANY rust encapsulator does to metal. DESTROYED in 10 years! VPT

This is heart breaking! I put hundreds of hours into this truck to protect it from salt and rust. Then the very thing that is supposed to protect it actually killed it! I will never ever use another POR15 product on anything I own!

[@IRDStudio]

Old motor oil and a pump sprayer is fhe best way to keep frame rust away. Just make sure to hose it down in your neighbors yard, especially if that neighbor lets his dog crap in yours

[@SgtRauksauff]

my '96 F250 came from Portland OR a few years back.. can still see paint on the underside of the bed/cab. It was a work truck, so has dings and scars, but it's clean enough that it should last for many more years! I'd like to go back to just sand on the roads in winter..

[@UrielX1212]

Fluid film is far superior.

[@VPTfab]

Some say the blaster brand of "fluid film" is even better. Definitely never using por again!

[@cpcoark]

I feel your pain. I live in Michigan, so we are just as bad with rust.

[@VPTfab]

It is a constant battle. I feel so defeated with this truck.

[@dakotabowes2387]

oil is the best undercoating.

[@Mankan569]

Here in Sweden when the car is new. After three years, it must be inspected. After that, the car must be inspected every year. By an accredited inspection company. Otherwise, the car may not be used. and you go through EVERYTHING❗ Lighting rust windshield washer brakes license plate lighting your car had never had time to rust so much the inspection had discovered this immediately they use a small hammer and tap on the frame to detect rust. The cars sold in Sweden have anti-rust treatment. in all beams inside and out. Have a JEEP Liberty myself. But does not have anti-rust treatment in the frame. And inside the rocker panel 😰 rusted to pieces.

[@LittleMikeStarCraft]

some countries over do it, while other countries let them run free--- in my province in Canada, it's a little bit of both. Only need to inspect it when buying/selling a vehicle over 12 years old. Which is fair.

[@user-ty6im2sf7u]

Can attest to that, Volvo V70 from 2005 soaked in salt every winter and never washed still looks like new in all structural parts under, it's like a thick asphalt under coating on everything from factory, inside beams is wax and the hood is aluminium and the trunk lid is composite. Nowadays Volvo come with only paint under and wax in the beams (like most cars has always been). Volvo cooperated with Renault a while and they learned from Volvo. Renault is now nr 1 in rust protection, better than Volvo (EU car magasines/rust experts go through new cars and rate them and also cuts up older cars to look inside beams etc). My neighbours Renault is rust free after 15 years of highway salt commuting (front fenders are even plastic to prevent rust). I prefer doing mechanical work over body work any day..

[@TempoMontages]

Wow sounds like a Nazi dictatorship I can't imagine living there

[@joshuatracy4829]

Any seal coat is horrible and anyone saying oh mine is great it's probably sitting in a garage 90% of the time and never sees winter or salt. Fluid film or any oil based coating is the way to go

[@VPTfab]

I agree 100%

[@fishermansbuddy3785]

Uh bad. Here in europe, especially in very wet regions like Austria, car garages use cable grease to preserve car bodies. That works out pretty good.

[@tcpnetworks]

There must be a better way - Galvanising a chassis would be it - but what a job that would be.... Complete disassembly, Stripping, Galvanising, adding an etch-primers, re-assembling the whole ute. But it would make the frame not rust.
But then - there's the cab. Unless it's made from galvanised steel.... Urgh..... So hard.

[@markconley9279]

Por will stop rust but it’s not meant to prevent rust. It’s used as an option to restore cars that will never be subject to road salt.

[@keilveil9153]

Even though it's literally called a "rust preventive permanent coating"

[@fth5263]

Use white lithium aerosol and used oil

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

5 parts used motor oil, 1 part diesel. Spray away. (Park in grass for first week though).

[@VPTfab]

I have a rocker sprayer I use for spraying diesel waste oil now. Much better!

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

@@VPTfab I'm in NE Texas and they started treating roads with brine and salt just a few years ago. Hate that they do that.

[@matzrat5006]

@@amossnowdaharleyman9179 The brine just kills the steel, but it also makes it so we can drive in the winter.

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

@@matzrat5006 We get a few snow event days MAYBE every 3 years and untreated roads are clear in a day or two.Not a big fan of salt or brine especially when the treated roads don't get any snow or ice (was just a threat).

[@matzrat5006]

@@amossnowdaharleyman9179 lucky, here its the black ice that is so dangerous.

[@dazaspc]

Looking and hearing about the rust and road conditions perhaps you need to add some annodes and change them out every season. Dont mess around use Magnesium. 5 or 6 blocks evenly spaced along each rail should get you protection for 90 days over brine. basically the snow season, replace at the end after a decent wash and maybe a traditional oil treatment or a paint. The only thing that will protect it if bare metal is there is an anode.

[@DS-Turbo]

Almost looks like it just trapped the salt and brine in-between the por15 and the frame and helped it rot faster. That is the worst frame I've seen that's for sure. Good to know about that stuff not working.

[@VPTfab]

Exactly what it does, traps moister, brine, salt between the coating and frame.

[@strongereveryday2302]

POR 15 works just fine if used properly. You have to actually clean the rust off first, desalinate the frame, and then you use POR 15 and THEN paint it or whatever. You can't just use POR 15 only and go along your merry way, no one would ever do that and expect different results. Its meant as a prep to neutralize rust before painting or something else. Literally everyone knows that, even the rustproof/removal place I took my 2008 Jeep Wrangler to told me the same. My daily Driven 2008 Jeep Wrangler, and I live in upstate NY, was done 5 years ago, POR 15, first, then painted the frame and it still is solid as a rock.

[@VPTfab]

This truck was OK 5 years ago as well. Id be interested to hear how your jeep is doing in another 5 years and 100K miles.

[@glennbonnell4241]

looks like Ziebart.... spray on liquid moisture holding tar.....

[@VPTfab]

Even worse.

[@rtalways]

You need to move to Arizona

[@dwtrksvc]

I have to call bs..

[@VPTfab]

Let us know what Bob Saget says.

[@badcommentbot8349]

Oil is best