Running a Helldive Difficulty solo game here with the new exploding crossbow. Do you guys think this weapon needs a buff? Enjoy! Timestamps: #helldivers #helldivers2 #helldiver
Crossbow is not too bad against the bots but you gotta aim at the ground around them for the splash damage. The problem is, along with a lot of the guns in the game, the ammo economy is just way too low so the balance is off. I feel like AH really overestimate how strong some of these weapons are, so they're adjusting way too hard on limiting them in certain ways (less ammo size, too much recoil, etc.). Whoever is balancing the weapons in the game, they're just not doing enough right now.
Nah its bad against the bots as well, not really any reason to use the crossbow over the Eruptor if you want a Primary-Boom weapon. More damage and much more velocity. You really do not want to have the crossbow when you are pinned down by like 5 Rocket Devastators and 3 Heavies 100m away. Tbh I would probably like the crossbow more if it were not a explosive bolt but instead a more high powered medium armor pen bolt that did high single target damage, kind of a smaller package Slugger/Dominator with the benefit of being a very silent weapon... At least it would have a decent niche then. Or if I could have the devs put a bit more effort into the weapon, make it possible to swap the type of bolts in the weapon customization menu mid mission and keep the explosives but also add the higher damage bolt with a single target Arc/EMS effect for a bit of a lingering stun or slow on the target as well as a Incendiary bolt because why not.
@@TheHuffur The leak does suggest that we're getting weapon customization some time in the future, so I'm wondering if that's why the balance of the weapons are so cautious atm. Also yes, I agree, the Eruptor is the better choice for bots due to not having to arc the shots and more utility, while providing the same splash damage of the crossbow.
You can pretty much solo clear a whole bot drop on lvl9 helldives mode with Autocannon, Eager Cluster bomb and a Shield Relay setup. I did it every game. The problem here is that the bots "raider/marauder" is too much of a pushover. They need to improve those guy aim, agility to perform action like throwing grenade faster and spawn more of them. Since Raider/Marauder have way smaller hitbox for AC to aims, It would be more diverse in term of team loadout having someone bring starwart with them.
Random tips. Don't fire your last shot. Use the shots as a distraction for patrols. Fire on bug holes as enemies spawn, they are generally grouped up more. 2 shots destroys the bile Titan sacs, render them useless. The explosion deals more damage than direct hit damage. It deals less total damage than the erupter in 99% of situations because it DOESN'T have shrapnel, but the explosion itself is bigger. It could potentially kill a charger from the front with shots underneath it. Haven't tested but if the punisher plasma is anything to go by, this should work better because higher damage, and yet less bullet drop. And last of all, the stagger is pretty strong For anyone wondering with the erupters shrapnel and well placed shots I've killed a charger in 2 shots by bleedout with well placed shots between it's back legs, the 3rd outright kills it. BUT, a low angle has a chance to ricochet off the ground instead of exploding and I've seen it happen quite a lot so far. Edit: just to add, erupter one shots gunships. Don't aim for the engines, aim between the main body and engines. As for devastators, aim for the nuts, and in the case of heavy devastator, right leg
We tend to bring more solutions to the same problem as a group. There's always a chance you get split up so we don't tend to rely on one person to deal with one specific thing. There are loadouts that can deal with every situation, much like what you're using so we all try to cover stuff like that and I personally prefer it that way. Keep the videos coming, I absolutely love watching you play ❤
....did the devs test this?* It seems like their play testing is horrible because of the horrible balance of most weapons and game breaking bugs that come with each patch. I miss when the game was less buggy and the only issues was logging into the servers
I personally don't believe they test their game before releasing new stuff lol. The new mission had an entire map near extract not work, which is something that would be picked up instantly by any testing. I do not believe they were playing level 9 when they nerfed the railgun. I do not believe they use the railgun in general with how bad it is right now. They definitely did not test out the new upgrade to fully refill ammo in support weapons either, as that straight up doesn't work. Honestly kudos to the devs for being able to do their jobs with the testers being so bad.
A melee secondary or even primary / support weapon would be really nice, itd be kinda niche but maybe also be very useful in certain situations when the enemy is right up in front of you. Also a melee weapon with the balistic shield sounds potentially fun!
Bayonet for most guns is what I have been asking for. For bugs that jump on you, logically you want to raise the bayonet and let them impale themselves.
It seems like everyone is judging this weapon on what it can't do, instead of what it's intended to do, which is aoe chaff clearing at a distance; and at this, it excels. As Takibo himself says early in the video, it deals with hunters/pouncers very well as long as they aren't hugging you; a single bolt in the midst of a group can kill all at once. Also, it can 1 shot a Scout Strider through its front plate, which is huge in my book, and 3 shot a Hive Guard through its front armor, which is fine (better than the Scorcher's 5). It's also surprisingly decent at dealing with Berserkers, as they deliver their head right to you. For a support, pair it with the Autocannon for dealing with stuff like Devastators and Brood Commanders, as well as general objective clearing; then use red stratagems like the Orbital Railcannon to delete heavies. The Crossbow is no Eruptor Rifle, but the handling is amazing, its fun to shoot, and it does the job it's supposed to do.
You can kill one hive guard per clip with this gun. You can kill 3 hive guards per mag with the scorcher. Only being able to clear out chaff makes your support weapon virtually useless. Anyone with a cluster bomb can do that job significantly better. On any level beyond 4 or 5 it’s not going to be worth bringing. Everyone on your squad should be able to deal with hive guards easily.
I think the crossbow is good situationally. I find its nearly impossible to use in a large 40 minute mission where you may have to deal with swarms/drops solo. However I used it in the new defense mission against bugs last night and it was great. My team was obviously laying down fire, so all I needed the crossbow to do was put out solid DPS and clear smaller enemies (quasar/EAT for chargers and biles) and it did a great job. Multiple times I'd shoot once or twice into a crowd and end up with 30+ kills from it. It definitely does its job it's just not suited for solos or really any engagement where you arent stuck to your teammates like glue
When I join into random lobbies, I try to make sure that whatever I bring compliments what everyone else has, or else covers a severe hole in the loadouts that they have. Join a group that has plenty of add removal, but nothing for Heavies? Guess I'm going in loaded for Bile Titans, Hulks, Chargers, and more. Join a group that is ready for heavies, but has nothing for adds? Stalwart/Machine Gun, or maybe 'Nade Launcher, depending on the mission type. And I might swap the bubble for the supply pack. I don't usually do stealth play... I do Heavy Stealth (No one can see you, if no one survives!) Which means I generally go for the light stim armor, both for mobility, but also for surviability. (I legit see people with no one else in the lobby, half dead, and heavily damaged, with no stims, and a resupply just sitting, doing nothing for them. Land, and a quick stim before we resupply. USE the dang resupply, it's wasted if you aren't.)
Hey do you know you can throw the SEAF atrillery shells? Walk ahead of the shell and pick it up and as soon as you see it traveling to your hand swap to your weapon. The shell will fly to whatever direction you were facing. It goes pretty far if you do it right the momentum carries from how far ahead of the shell you are. I hope you see this its way better than spamming E on the shell and animation cancelling that way
At this point it feels like they’re just releasing stuff to release stuff. There’s maybe one good gun in each of the premium war ones. The rest are virtually worthless..
Im with you there but it’s hard to release stuff and not break the game. Remember the game is not free so therefore adding a “battle pass” to an already not free game, makes stuff hard to not be pay to win. However I did find those guns useful when you go with support guns like the matching gun etc. I think these main guns are not main gun they are more stratagems that you can carry everywhere 😂
@@melvinvasquezbonifacio6313 It's never been p2w since the time you bought the main game because you can get in 1-2 weeks of gameplay those 1000 super creds
@@melvinvasquezbonifacio6313What are you talking about man? Game being free/not free has nothing to do with stuff from the battlepass being good or not. You wanna squeeze money out of it no matter what and people wont be incentivized to buy the pass if the gear is bad. They simply don't play test the game enough to be able to properly balance it, apparent in the plethora of bugs and the myriad of either op or useless weapons the game has.
@@melvinvasquezbonifacio6313I think their goal here is to add variety without making it pay to win or just as importantly, making the players too powerful. It doesn’t really matter if the new content is free or not. Ideally each gun should be equally good overall, with different strengths for different situations. That is their design philosophy. Even if they run out of ideas, the new guns should be about as useful as the others.
@@Krosis_ in a way it does. They even say they don’t want to make the game pay to win. When you think about it, every gun in a certain degree are balanced
What would be cool for the crossbow is that when you hold square to change the sights or flashlight, instead you can change between different bolts. You can choose a gas bolt, explosive, static bolt etc.
My favorite Helldiver. Thanks so much for all of the videos, advice, and hard work you put out. I spread democracy much more effectively thanks to you O7
Hey takibo, donˋt know if you got this as a comment, but if you want to use the eruptor here‘s some tips: 1st use it against automatons, it can oneshot every enemy below a hulk; 2nd you can hotswap it with the senator or autocannon, so no pullback animation and 3rd reload the eruptor when you mag symbol turns red(so one bullet left) because the bullet will be in the chamber and after you reloaded you‘ll have six shots and the reload is shorter. (Commented under this vid, because I don‘t know if you‘ll see this if I wrote it under the eruptor vid ;D)
25:24 You can dive across that gap if you dive right at the edge while near the wall, has saved my life a few times because the bugs have to go around, even the jumpy ones. Works on heavy armor too, just less leeway.
You are exactly right on the firing sound thingy. Automatons will not hear you shooting this weapon. They will only investigate the explosion, which can sometimes actually be helpful for bunching them up. This is not a must-have for every stealthy automaton mission, but it definitely has its niche. I am certain that the weapon was designed around that, since it is strictly worse than the Eruptor in almost every way except for this. It is also pretty alright for taking down all the automaton units except hulks and above if you get used to the arrow drop (which is a big "if"). I think the weapon is in a perfect spot since it is completely viable, has its niche and most importantly it's really fun to use.
Once you get the range down its great for killing squads of bots and striders. You can easily wipe a squad of bots in one or two bolts. I find its most effective at medium and close range just don't let them too close or the explosion will kill you as well. Each bolt can also stagger Devastators and I think one bolt to the head is one shot kill. This gun feels like a soft grenade launcher as primary which is quite neat but I wish it could close factories and bug holds.
Funnily enough, I've never met a shrieker up close. Every single time there was a nest on the map we managed to spot and take it out from afar. I am tempted to wander close one day just for the experience. I think everyone in the group should be able to handle swarms. But some of us usually packing more crowd control-y stratagems in a squad. Against bugs that is. Swarm sweeping and something to never run dry against a titan or charger.
i realy love the C-bow against either bugs and bots, its fun , especialy for dealing with walkers before they reach you. pairs great with the quasar and 500kg with a 380.
Your double bile titan 500kg reminded me of the 2 bile titans and one charger I killed with an orbital rail cannon strike last night. So awesome when that kind of stuff happens! :D
Yeah. This is like the eruptor. You can switch to different builds, but works terrible for solo play. If you have a second helldiver with a balanced loadout, it is fun and effective. Just a small grenade launcher with horrible drop-off, but clears groups at mid range quite good
This game would be a 10/10 if they implemented a Ratchet and Clank style weapon level up system. Levels mostly just give extra ammo capacity, better stabilization, a little more damage, etc., but then eventually you get a major upgrade (2nd barrel, exploding shots, elemental augment). Exp to level a weapon is based on damage/kills with that weapon, so people are incentivized to use different weapons to level them all. Hire me.
I actually like the crossbow, but I will admit it’s not the greatest when paired with some of the heavier stratagems like the Quasar-Cannon or the ETA, I usually pair it with something like the laser cannon which can do lots of damage to singular units while I use the Crossbow to help me with larger groups
9:36 With the new Bolt-Action sniper, I was ragdolling myself and the shot wasn't hitting anywhere near me. I was shooting at targets 100+ meters away, and it still launched me forwards. I was dumbfounded. Dropped that gun like a bad habit LOL
I like the exploding crossbow as a primary weapon. The Erupter is great but it’s more of a support weapon, and doesn’t do so well on its own on bugs. The crossbow isn’t bad
i like the crossbow, i have a great time with it in difficulty 8/9 I'm fine with peoples finding it bad, if it ends up getting buffed, more power to me.
I don't understand how the crossbow with 420 damage takes so many shots to kill things like brood commanders while the Eruptor, which does 380 damage, can vaporize them in 1 hit (not every time, but at least 35% of the time). Edit: it has the same problem against devastators. 4+ hits to kill unless maybe you get a perfect shot, but that's hard to do with the crossbow because of the drop and low velocity.
I can't see myself ever using this over something like the incendiary breaker against bugs. Maybe bots, but I'll probably just be using something else against them
I've found the grenade pistol compliments the incendiary breaker's weaknesses vs bugs in that it can take out bile spewers and brood commanders fairly well.
The Eruptor one-shots brood commanders when you shoot at its legs. Compared to the crossbow, it's better at dealing with larger targets. Even one-shots Stalkers. It's okay at clearing groups of smaller bugs but it's slow and you need to be far away to kill them all. Crossbow fires faster so it's better at ad clear. I haven't used it but I assume it'll kill broods with one or two shots to the leg, too.
I wish the shield wasn’t so OP. I feel like if the jetpack had a second charge to do a second jump it would be just as viable as the shield generator. I’d like to play max difficulty with the jetpack but it just gets outshined by the shield. But this is still quality content!
bugs are just too annoying and undercooked, especially hunters. if they start an attack, it will always connect ever since a couple updates ago. not to mention that hunters and pouncers can jump through solid objects. i wont even talk about how janky chargers are. shield gen helps with the retarded enemy balancing
I’m really trying to like the crossbow, but it’s disappointing. I feel like it does great against what it may have been designed for, but not what I wanted. It’s not bad at killing chaff. It’s actually very good. Shoot into a bug breach, and you’re killing a dozen scavengers and hunters. But it’s so incredibly bad at fighting hive guards and brood commanders. For apparently rewarding you with direct shots by doing full damage, it sucks. The Eruptor can one shot brood commanders and devastators. It’s so ridiculous that it takes four to six bolts to do the same. I’m not going to lie, I’d actually prefer a single shot crossbow with heavy penetration than the exploding crossbow. I feel like it’d fulfill a niche no other primary has filled, without the Eruptor making it obsolete. If the crossbow was single shot, with a reload that wasn’t too fast, or too slow, what if it could damage things like chargers? Perhaps three to four shot their legs? I mean, the quasar is practically a free one shot a charger with infinite ammo card. I don’t think it’d be ridiculous to give the player a crossbow with maybe 40 to 60 bolts, and have it three shot chargers if you hit their weak points. This crossbow’s main drawback could simply be that it’s not good at crowd control. It can one shot everything below a charger, maybe two shot a brood commander, but it’ll struggle at fighting multiple enemies. And against bots, it could reward precision shots. It’d be harder to hit a hulk in the eye with a bolt than an AMR. Maybe it’s a terrible idea, but I feel like this could be a good niche for the crossbow that is unique to it. No other primary has heavy armour penetration, and as it stands, the crossbow is just a worst Eruptor. At first, I was like “Oh, but at least the crossbow shoots faster”. Not even. With an animation cancel, that doesn’t even matter. Besides, rate of fire means nothing. Every Eruptor shot kills so many enemies. I don’t even run a supply pack anymore with it. It’s so ammo efficient, I don’t find myself resupply often. The crossbow on the other hand, I’m resupplying a lot. And it’s not even a skill issue. I hit a lot of my shots. It’s just that it takes so many bolts to take down hive guards and broods. Don’t even get me started on rocket devastators. It doesn’t even stagger them, but the bolts do a sheepish amount of damage.
Seems like some of the guns are really well set up, where every person I talk to has a different fav weapon, which is cool, but so many of them just under-perform so hard to the point of uselessness. Even the peoples fav's usually just don't have the performance you want. I think everything should have been pushed up to the point of the old breaker.
9:53 it's also terrible against Bots with the amount of Berserkers running at you, they will cut you to pieces if you ever get pulled toward them Edit: I've actually warmed up to it a little, I use stun nades now to help with the Berserkers
They want to force teams to coordinate their builds and stay together. That’s now how the majority of people play. They need a redesign of the weapons to account for this. I mean when is the last time you had a “team reload” right?
I was super excited to unlock it, but The Explosive Crossbow is a joke. It can't destroy container's doors, can't destroy fences, can't close bug holes, takes 3+ shots to kill a Hive Guard, etc. Whats "explosive" about it? Really underwhelming. Even the Grenade Pistol is better than it, and the Eruptor is superior in every way and more fun.
Crossbow is so mid, a larger ammo pool would make it more balanced + a 8 arrow mag size would make fair i think. Mainly hoping for the grenade to get buffed it's really fun. A shorter fuse, higher DOT damage, higher explosion damage would make it serve it's intended purpose imo.
would love to use crossbow more but the map design is just stupidly against you from using it taking cover and peek out, invisible hitbox of that said cover blew you up shooting through certain terrain like those smoke puffer or bushes...blew you up beleive it or not....enemies corpses that clearly you can shoot through with your secondary.... blew you up
bro was sweating his cheeks bending backwards irl just to make it work. yeah imma rather stick with the explosive rifle or flame shotgun and flamethrower vs bugs.
I feel like this crossbow could benefit from a faster fire rate being able to choose between like a burst fire or single fire like the Nagantaka from Warframe
Yes the explosion ragdoll is dumb it should knock you back not forward but also you should use the rover it lasers all the shreakers and other smaller bugs
I havent used the crossbow but i would only use it against bots, using explosions against swarms of bugs being 2 meters away from you doesnt seem like a fun time
You have to try the orbital gas strike. Imo works better than napalm and has a 75 second cool down. The bugbreaches dont make it out 😂 the only ones left would be a brood commander and anything bigger. Other than that the rest of troops die almost instantly. Give it a try it's really slept on
@@gorgeousgeorge7104 it does tho. I solo on level 8 and it's the easiest thing for bug breaches. Plus if you have it upgraded the recharge time is only 75 seconds. You haven't even tried it bruh 😭 open ur brain a little bit. It's an opinion and plus it gives him something to test out since he's always doing helldive
@@gorgeousgeorge7104 then you'd understand that gas strike has its use. It's just to test drive and the only reason I say it's better is bc of the 75 second recharge. Instead of waiting for the 2 minutes when the eagle needs to rearm
@@cesarurbano7858 before Eagle goes to rearm I can drop it three times, you know. And I can rearm it without even fighting or picking fights where I won't need it anyway :)
Bro, I watch how you ran into those packs and patrols @ 27:15 and the pursuit is weak. I had an entire map of bugs chasing me on a lvl 4 bug map while helping a friend get some levels. She bought a PC account and needed to relevel. I'm level 62 and at the end of the mission I ended up killing over 700 and she killed over 250. A level 4 bug map should NOT be that hard, and you are having what looks to be practically a cake-walk (not really, but if you played on that map I was on you'd get it) on a 9. The pursuit just wasn't happening, the hunters were not mass jumping like they were on that lvl 4. I wish I had recorded it, but I did get the screen cap of the mission complete at the end. We had chargers and stalkers as well on that level 4 as well. Those broods weren't even charging, they were walking up and strafing side to side. Mine were dropping warriors then running at me full speed. at about 30 minutes, I can see hunters in that giant swarm, but they weren't even leaping. We had bug breaches that had hunters literally springing forth from the breach. It was wild. It appears that the game you played and the one I played weren't even operating on the same attack parameters. I don't consider myself to be super good at this game, but I'm definitely above average and can survive helldives with low death counts and even some missions not die at all. So, it's not a skill issue. Something is very wrong with the programming of mobs since that last patch. 950+ bugs on a lvl 4 mission is not typical. I've had over 600 kills on lvl 9s, but getting over 700 on a 4?!? Even people on lvl 5's with full parties are complaining that it's the new 'Helldive'. Another thing I noticed, you had avenues of escape. No matter where I turned on that lvl 4, there would be spawns. Literally watch them pop up from the ground with no breach called. When you died you had a path to escape. You talk about too little firepower, yet you still manage to clear lvl 9s solo. I think this is why the devs (in part) are doing this with the spawns and weapons to make things harder. So far, not impressed with the new weapons either. The new explosive shotgun does damage, but 5 rounds and a cocking mechanism makes it super slow to fire, when you have an auto-cannon that can fire really fast. I get it's a primary weapon, not a support weapon, but they all just feel a bit underwhelming to me. They can't seem to replace the shotguns for bugs. The incendiary, or breaker are still my go to for bugs. what do you think about the level issues currently in the game? Because something is definitely broken.
I tried it on the bots and was pretty underwhelmed. It was good for the scout striders, but it tickles the devastators, which are one of the more annoying enemies when they build up. I don't know if it's the damage fall off from center or what, but it felt like the explosion did way less damage then the Eruptor.
Why on Medium? Enemies have the same ammount of HP The crossbow is quite underpowered at any lvl. You test weapons on enemies and their stats do not change in any difficulty.
Never used it on bugs but it's just ass on bots. If it's not a headshot it takes 3 shots to kill a devistator. It just doesn't have the utility or damage to warrant taking it over any primary. If it could take out fabricators and had medium armor pen it would be fine.
welp at least one weapon they added (grenade pistol) is useful. One shots hive guards and a great combo to complete objectives while saving your high powered impact nades for threats. It's really lame that most people simply wont use any of the new weapons because they're useless at high difficulty.;
ive tried the eruptor and tbh, personnal review, its too good to be fun, so instead when i get the crossbow and hand-grenade launcher i'll do a lil silly riot build :)
Honestly my biggest disappointment so far was buying the Blitzer, that thing sounded so cool and looks so cool but has the range of a flyspray bottle with 1ml left.
@8:10 Your 500kg eagle came back online, you could use that to destroy the main building instead of a hellbomb. You can use a 500kg or Orbital Precision Strike to destroy it, very useful when there are too many bugs around destroying the hellbomb before it goes off. edit: eventually you did it lol @11:03
I used the cross bow on one bot mission and one bug mission and that was enough for me 😂 there are so many weapons that do the job better, grenade launcher, grenade pistol, auto cannon, eruptor, even to lure away patrols I can just throw a grenade, it was fun to Try but that's about it
You can easily tell just how much they're holding back the capabilities of the weapons and it almost feels like they're actually afraid of their creations as if they thought that avery single weapon in the game was perfectly balanced and had an actual use when in reality most of them simply doesn't have any or they're just outclassed by the same old 3 or 4 weapons everyone ends up using at the end of the day. I've over 200 hours on the game and i'm lvl 47 and I can guarantee you that if I want to try hard on a solo helldive I`d probably won't be using the new weapons (cutting edge and democratic detonation since they have only 1 usable weapon each) if I want to make my life easier and manage to extract with my samples, unless I'm on a squad with friends just to have a laugh.
Does anyone else feel like the napalm doesn’t do as much damage when you’re playing yourself? I’ve seen this man shut down a bug breach but when I do the same I’ve watched scavengers walk through the fire with no problem
If you’re solo you would be network host and fire should work in that case. The known bug is when you are not network host bugs ignore damage over time including gas
Scavengers seem to survive burning from the incendiary breaker as well. One video I watched on it said scavengers might have some resistance to fire along with chargers and Bile titans.
@@Eagle-eye-pieI’ve also noticed I have to two tap them sometimes even after they’re burning, chargers and titans I get but scavengers 🤯🤯 that don’t even sound right game design wise. But hey I’m no game dev and I’m still having fun
I'm still relatively new so haven't unlocked it yet but maybe this could be the first primary suited for a stealth load out. That's usually what crossbows do in other games.
there's 0 reason to play solo + stealthy unless you intentionally want to progress slower in this game and idk.. have less fun and endure more frustration. I'm not gonna recite every cringe and godawful incident I've had while playing solo with this game but yeah.. just don't play solo. like someone else said, the game is called ''Helldivers'' not ''Helldiver''
@@Daminionzhopefully the leaked robot assistance helps out with those who play solo. I saw a video the other day mentioning them coming. Reminds me of deep rock galactics solo mode drone companion.
@@Daminionz Believe me, I also almost exclusively play with my squad of 3 mates but you can't deny its a viable playstyle with mechanics that enable such a playstyle. There's a community of people that play in such a way and to ignore that is stupid. Also nowhere did I say solo+stealth did I, stealth can be done in a squad game as well and is can be a useful role for drawing away bot drops/tunnels from the main group while dealing with outposts. Another thing, saying its less fun is bs. Who are you to suddenly decide what people find fun, some people, me included love the different type of challenge stealth can bring to the game, if you find it frustrating, maybe just get good.
@@mistakendawg8885 yhea I don't think your playstyle will work in a sqad my friend... stealth is not for group play xd only solo. if you want to roleplay with your friends then sure ig... I can tell you rn tho high difficulty lvls is all about sticking together like glue and rushing thru objectives. Best stealth you can do in this game is going double rifle with antimaterial as supp weapon and being a ranged sniper. you come into my helldive difficulty doing all this mumbo jumbo roleplay solo proning.. yeeaah think it might be a kick my friendo... by the time you rotate to do whatever you're saying you wanna do someone else just bumrushes in clears everything, flings in 500kg and we're onto the next obj alrdy before reinforcements are here. I assumed you meant solo because I've never seen anyone play this lame in my groups xd game just aint built for that in coops, unless yea yall 4 roleplaying some stuff premade then do w/e.
I think the Crossbow should have a charge option, where the longer you hold right click the farther it goes, but also the damage increases exponentially for a full charge... Or something unique along those lines. Explosion radius should be a bit bigger. Damage should be a little bit higher, doesn't need to be massive. But if it can't handle medium sized enemies, then that's a problem. - Explodes but can't close bug holes/destroy Bot fabricators - Medium-slow firing speed - Cannot crowd control well - Damage can be lacking - Distance fall off - Self harm That's a lot of negatives, and there's probably still more I didn't mention. The amount of ammo you get for it is probably one of the only positive things I can say about it, and I guess it's technically a fun weapon. Just not fun when you're constantly getting swarmed/out-gunned.
Crossbow is not too bad against the bots but you gotta aim at the ground around them for the splash damage. The problem is, along with a lot of the guns in the game, the ammo economy is just way too low so the balance is off.
I feel like AH really overestimate how strong some of these weapons are, so they're adjusting way too hard on limiting them in certain ways (less ammo size, too much recoil, etc.). Whoever is balancing the weapons in the game, they're just not doing enough right now.
Between weapon issues like you said and mission issues (the impossible 15 minute evac mission) it really feels like they don't play test this stuff.
Nah its bad against the bots as well, not really any reason to use the crossbow over the Eruptor if you want a Primary-Boom weapon. More damage and much more velocity.
You really do not want to have the crossbow when you are pinned down by like 5 Rocket Devastators and 3 Heavies 100m away.
Tbh I would probably like the crossbow more if it were not a explosive bolt but instead a more high powered medium armor pen bolt that did high single target damage, kind of a smaller package Slugger/Dominator with the benefit of being a very silent weapon... At least it would have a decent niche then.
Or if I could have the devs put a bit more effort into the weapon, make it possible to swap the type of bolts in the weapon customization menu mid mission and keep the explosives but also add the higher damage bolt with a single target Arc/EMS effect for a bit of a lingering stun or slow on the target as well as a Incendiary bolt because why not.
@@TheHuffur The leak does suggest that we're getting weapon customization some time in the future, so I'm wondering if that's why the balance of the weapons are so cautious atm. Also yes, I agree, the Eruptor is the better choice for bots due to not having to arc the shots and more utility, while providing the same splash damage of the crossbow.
You can pretty much solo clear a whole bot drop on lvl9 helldives mode with Autocannon, Eager Cluster bomb and a Shield Relay setup. I did it every game. The problem here is that the bots "raider/marauder" is too much of a pushover. They need to improve those guy aim, agility to perform action like throwing grenade faster and spawn more of them. Since Raider/Marauder have way smaller hitbox for AC to aims, It would be more diverse in term of team loadout having someone bring starwart with them.
Makes me think about that "rumor" of how AH developers only test the new weapons on medium difficulty true lol.
its little fun facts that you drop that keeps me watching these 40+ minute videos. I've learned a lot through watching you man. Keep up the good work!
Random tips. Don't fire your last shot. Use the shots as a distraction for patrols. Fire on bug holes as enemies spawn, they are generally grouped up more. 2 shots destroys the bile Titan sacs, render them useless. The explosion deals more damage than direct hit damage. It deals less total damage than the erupter in 99% of situations because it DOESN'T have shrapnel, but the explosion itself is bigger. It could potentially kill a charger from the front with shots underneath it. Haven't tested but if the punisher plasma is anything to go by, this should work better because higher damage, and yet less bullet drop. And last of all, the stagger is pretty strong
For anyone wondering with the erupters shrapnel and well placed shots I've killed a charger in 2 shots by bleedout with well placed shots between it's back legs, the 3rd outright kills it. BUT, a low angle has a chance to ricochet off the ground instead of exploding and I've seen it happen quite a lot so far.
Edit: just to add, erupter one shots gunships. Don't aim for the engines, aim between the main body and engines. As for devastators, aim for the nuts, and in the case of heavy devastator, right leg
We tend to bring more solutions to the same problem as a group. There's always a chance you get split up so we don't tend to rely on one person to deal with one specific thing. There are loadouts that can deal with every situation, much like what you're using so we all try to cover stuff like that and I personally prefer it that way.
Keep the videos coming, I absolutely love watching you play ❤
....did the devs test this on medium difficulty only? I feel like the eruptor is better than this in every way.
....did the devs test this?*
It seems like their play testing is horrible because of the horrible balance of most weapons and game breaking bugs that come with each patch.
I miss when the game was less buggy and the only issues was logging into the servers
I personally don't believe they test their game before releasing new stuff lol. The new mission had an entire map near extract not work, which is something that would be picked up instantly by any testing. I do not believe they were playing level 9 when they nerfed the railgun. I do not believe they use the railgun in general with how bad it is right now.
They definitely did not test out the new upgrade to fully refill ammo in support weapons either, as that straight up doesn't work. Honestly kudos to the devs for being able to do their jobs with the testers being so bad.
It's keeping the trend of 1/2 out of the 5 weapons being added in the warbond being decent which is kinda impressive to of managed that now.
Well they definitely didn’t test the thermite grenades lol
They do not test. The weapon balancing sucks. It's either too good, or trash.
A melee secondary or even primary / support weapon would be really nice, itd be kinda niche but maybe also be very useful in certain situations when the enemy is right up in front of you. Also a melee weapon with the balistic shield sounds potentially fun!
Could be a good way to kill those annoying af jetpack bots that kill you when you shoot them up close.
The ceo has said he wants melee weapons in the game but not everyone on the dev team agrees. We’ll have to see.
Haha, chainsaw like in DOOM!
@@NoNo-xh7ru I WANT ENERGY SWORD
Bayonet for most guns is what I have been asking for. For bugs that jump on you, logically you want to raise the bayonet and let them impale themselves.
It seems like everyone is judging this weapon on what it can't do, instead of what it's intended to do, which is aoe chaff clearing at a distance; and at this, it excels. As Takibo himself says early in the video, it deals with hunters/pouncers very well as long as they aren't hugging you; a single bolt in the midst of a group can kill all at once. Also, it can 1 shot a Scout Strider through its front plate, which is huge in my book, and 3 shot a Hive Guard through its front armor, which is fine (better than the Scorcher's 5). It's also surprisingly decent at dealing with Berserkers, as they deliver their head right to you. For a support, pair it with the Autocannon for dealing with stuff like Devastators and Brood Commanders, as well as general objective clearing; then use red stratagems like the Orbital Railcannon to delete heavies. The Crossbow is no Eruptor Rifle, but the handling is amazing, its fun to shoot, and it does the job it's supposed to do.
yeah except hunters and pouncers exist to hug you so like :)
@@jpfr624 thats why you play with a diverse team! one person with a sickle and you can decimate both ends of the battlefield together
You can kill one hive guard per clip with this gun. You can kill 3 hive guards per mag with the scorcher. Only being able to clear out chaff makes your support weapon virtually useless. Anyone with a cluster bomb can do that job significantly better. On any level beyond 4 or 5 it’s not going to be worth bringing.
Everyone on your squad should be able to deal with hive guards easily.
@@colin7231also the scorcher can put its shots down range much faster.
i mean if run the auto cannon i could also just use it to clear stuff... it has enough ammo that you don't even have to really worry about that...
I think the crossbow is good situationally. I find its nearly impossible to use in a large 40 minute mission where you may have to deal with swarms/drops solo. However I used it in the new defense mission against bugs last night and it was great. My team was obviously laying down fire, so all I needed the crossbow to do was put out solid DPS and clear smaller enemies (quasar/EAT for chargers and biles) and it did a great job. Multiple times I'd shoot once or twice into a crowd and end up with 30+ kills from it. It definitely does its job it's just not suited for solos or really any engagement where you arent stuck to your teammates like glue
This. When you are playing with squad crossbow is insane
When I join into random lobbies, I try to make sure that whatever I bring compliments what everyone else has, or else covers a severe hole in the loadouts that they have.
Join a group that has plenty of add removal, but nothing for Heavies? Guess I'm going in loaded for Bile Titans, Hulks, Chargers, and more.
Join a group that is ready for heavies, but has nothing for adds? Stalwart/Machine Gun, or maybe 'Nade Launcher, depending on the mission type. And I might swap the bubble for the supply pack.
I don't usually do stealth play... I do Heavy Stealth (No one can see you, if no one survives!) Which means I generally go for the light stim armor, both for mobility, but also for surviability. (I legit see people with no one else in the lobby, half dead, and heavily damaged, with no stims, and a resupply just sitting, doing nothing for them. Land, and a quick stim before we resupply. USE the dang resupply, it's wasted if you aren't.)
Hey do you know you can throw the SEAF atrillery shells?
Walk ahead of the shell and pick it up and as soon as you see it traveling to your hand swap to your weapon. The shell will fly to whatever direction you were facing. It goes pretty far if you do it right the momentum carries from how far ahead of the shell you are. I hope you see this its way better than spamming E on the shell and animation cancelling that way
Is t this exactly what he was… ooo no it isn’t I haven’t even tried the drop spam I’ll be sure to try lobbing them next time too
@@MrHaveaword its very fun to pull off you can send them flying lol
Love the videos man! Daily uploads have become part of my routine, keep up the good work
At this point it feels like they’re just releasing stuff to release stuff. There’s maybe one good gun in each of the premium war ones. The rest are virtually worthless..
Im with you there but it’s hard to release stuff and not break the game. Remember the game is not free so therefore adding a “battle pass” to an already not free game, makes stuff hard to not be pay to win. However I did find those guns useful when you go with support guns like the matching gun etc. I think these main guns are not main gun they are more stratagems that you can carry everywhere 😂
@@melvinvasquezbonifacio6313 It's never been p2w since the time you bought the main game because you can get in 1-2 weeks of gameplay those 1000 super creds
@@melvinvasquezbonifacio6313What are you talking about man? Game being free/not free has nothing to do with stuff from the battlepass being good or not.
You wanna squeeze money out of it no matter what and people wont be incentivized to buy the pass if the gear is bad.
They simply don't play test the game enough to be able to properly balance it, apparent in the plethora of bugs and the myriad of either op or useless weapons the game has.
@@melvinvasquezbonifacio6313I think their goal here is to add variety without making it pay to win or just as importantly, making the players too powerful.
It doesn’t really matter if the new content is free or not.
Ideally each gun should be equally good overall, with different strengths for different situations. That is their design philosophy.
Even if they run out of ideas, the new guns should be about as useful as the others.
@@Krosis_ in a way it does. They even say they don’t want to make the game pay to win. When you think about it, every gun in a certain degree are balanced
What would be cool for the crossbow is that when you hold square to change the sights or flashlight, instead you can change between different bolts. You can choose a gas bolt, explosive, static bolt etc.
My favorite Helldiver. Thanks so much for all of the videos, advice, and hard work you put out. I spread democracy much more effectively thanks to you O7
Hey takibo, donˋt know if you got this as a comment, but if you want to use the eruptor here‘s some tips: 1st use it against automatons, it can oneshot every enemy below a hulk; 2nd you can hotswap it with the senator or autocannon, so no pullback animation and 3rd reload the eruptor when you mag symbol turns red(so one bullet left) because the bullet will be in the chamber and after you reloaded you‘ll have six shots and the reload is shorter. (Commented under this vid, because I don‘t know if you‘ll see this if I wrote it under the eruptor vid ;D)
25:24 You can dive across that gap if you dive right at the edge while near the wall, has saved my life a few times because the bugs have to go around, even the jumpy ones. Works on heavy armor too, just less leeway.
You are exactly right on the firing sound thingy. Automatons will not hear you shooting this weapon. They will only investigate the explosion, which can sometimes actually be helpful for bunching them up. This is not a must-have for every stealthy automaton mission, but it definitely has its niche. I am certain that the weapon was designed around that, since it is strictly worse than the Eruptor in almost every way except for this. It is also pretty alright for taking down all the automaton units except hulks and above if you get used to the arrow drop (which is a big "if"). I think the weapon is in a perfect spot since it is completely viable, has its niche and most importantly it's really fun to use.
Once you get the range down its great for killing squads of bots and striders. You can easily wipe a squad of bots in one or two bolts. I find its most effective at medium and close range just don't let them too close or the explosion will kill you as well. Each bolt can also stagger Devastators and I think one bolt to the head is one shot kill. This gun feels like a soft grenade launcher as primary which is quite neat but I wish it could close factories and bug holds.
Funnily enough, I've never met a shrieker up close. Every single time there was a nest on the map we managed to spot and take it out from afar. I am tempted to wander close one day just for the experience.
I think everyone in the group should be able to handle swarms. But some of us usually packing more crowd control-y stratagems in a squad. Against bugs that is. Swarm sweeping and something to never run dry against a titan or charger.
i realy love the C-bow against either bugs and bots, its fun , especialy for dealing with walkers before they reach you.
pairs great with the quasar and 500kg with a 380.
It's the poi cleaner. 2 shots on the ground and everything that can call a quick breach/drop unnoticed is dead.
i fell in love with this thing the moment i realized it didnt fire only a single bolt per mag
Whooo! New video, love your content!!
Your double bile titan 500kg reminded me of the 2 bile titans and one charger I killed with an orbital rail cannon strike last night. So awesome when that kind of stuff happens! :D
I like the Eruptore more than the crossbow
I can't get used to either on 7 or above. These weapons are too slow
@@xSabinx1 I thought the eruptor wasnt good at first but after some practice, its been amazing for me on 7 and 8.
to answer your question , bots hear the shot of a C-bow so no stealthy option , unless you fire it from far away and hidden.
Yeah. This is like the eruptor. You can switch to different builds, but works terrible for solo play. If you have a second helldiver with a balanced loadout, it is fun and effective. Just a small grenade launcher with horrible drop-off, but clears groups at mid range quite good
This game would be a 10/10 if they implemented a Ratchet and Clank style weapon level up system. Levels mostly just give extra ammo capacity, better stabilization, a little more damage, etc., but then eventually you get a major upgrade (2nd barrel, exploding shots, elemental augment). Exp to level a weapon is based on damage/kills with that weapon, so people are incentivized to use different weapons to level them all. Hire me.
I actually like the crossbow, but I will admit it’s not the greatest when paired with some of the heavier stratagems like the Quasar-Cannon or the ETA, I usually pair it with something like the laser cannon which can do lots of damage to singular units while I use the Crossbow to help me with larger groups
It's pretty fun against automatons. Can't say the same about the new marksman rifle though
9:36 With the new Bolt-Action sniper, I was ragdolling myself and the shot wasn't hitting anywhere near me.
I was shooting at targets 100+ meters away, and it still launched me forwards. I was dumbfounded. Dropped that gun like a bad habit LOL
Bro literally never use anything else as a support backpack other than the shield gen 💀
The spear targeting system works slightly better than before. If in front of the titan you can 1 shot it
I love my shield backpack too much tho 🤣
I like the exploding crossbow as a primary weapon. The Erupter is great but it’s more of a support weapon, and doesn’t do so well on its own on bugs. The crossbow isn’t bad
i like the crossbow, i have a great time with it in difficulty 8/9
I'm fine with peoples finding it bad, if it ends up getting buffed, more power to me.
Give the crossbow like 25% more damage or change the explosion into napalm and we have a really good primary weapon
Devs would definitely buff these weapons, but before that, just get the steeled veteran warbond if you haven't.
I don't understand how the crossbow with 420 damage takes so many shots to kill things like brood commanders while the Eruptor, which does 380 damage, can vaporize them in 1 hit (not every time, but at least 35% of the time).
Edit: it has the same problem against devastators. 4+ hits to kill unless maybe you get a perfect shot, but that's hard to do with the crossbow because of the drop and low velocity.
I can't see myself ever using this over something like the incendiary breaker against bugs. Maybe bots, but I'll probably just be using something else against them
light armour + throw distance enhancement is choice for terminids, if youre looking for something else other than scout
I've found the grenade pistol compliments the incendiary breaker's weaknesses vs bugs in that it can take out bile spewers and brood commanders fairly well.
Animation cancelling the erupter makes the crossbow completely obsolete, and it’s super fun doing it too
The Eruptor one-shots brood commanders when you shoot at its legs. Compared to the crossbow, it's better at dealing with larger targets. Even one-shots Stalkers. It's okay at clearing groups of smaller bugs but it's slow and you need to be far away to kill them all. Crossbow fires faster so it's better at ad clear. I haven't used it but I assume it'll kill broods with one or two shots to the leg, too.
I wish the shield wasn’t so OP. I feel like if the jetpack had a second charge to do a second jump it would be just as viable as the shield generator. I’d like to play max difficulty with the jetpack but it just gets outshined by the shield. But this is still quality content!
bugs are just too annoying and undercooked, especially hunters. if they start an attack, it will always connect ever since a couple updates ago. not to mention that hunters and pouncers can jump through solid objects. i wont even talk about how janky chargers are. shield gen helps with the retarded enemy balancing
Unlucky i bought the crossbow Yesterday, i should have watched your Video before 🤣
I’m really trying to like the crossbow, but it’s disappointing. I feel like it does great against what it may have been designed for, but not what I wanted.
It’s not bad at killing chaff. It’s actually very good. Shoot into a bug breach, and you’re killing a dozen scavengers and hunters.
But it’s so incredibly bad at fighting hive guards and brood commanders. For apparently rewarding you with direct shots by doing full damage, it sucks. The Eruptor can one shot brood commanders and devastators. It’s so ridiculous that it takes four to six bolts to do the same.
I’m not going to lie, I’d actually prefer a single shot crossbow with heavy penetration than the exploding crossbow. I feel like it’d fulfill a niche no other primary has filled, without the Eruptor making it obsolete. If the crossbow was single shot, with a reload that wasn’t too fast, or too slow, what if it could damage things like chargers? Perhaps three to four shot their legs? I mean, the quasar is practically a free one shot a charger with infinite ammo card. I don’t think it’d be ridiculous to give the player a crossbow with maybe 40 to 60 bolts, and have it three shot chargers if you hit their weak points.
This crossbow’s main drawback could simply be that it’s not good at crowd control. It can one shot everything below a charger, maybe two shot a brood commander, but it’ll struggle at fighting multiple enemies. And against bots, it could reward precision shots. It’d be harder to hit a hulk in the eye with a bolt than an AMR.
Maybe it’s a terrible idea, but I feel like this could be a good niche for the crossbow that is unique to it. No other primary has heavy armour penetration, and as it stands, the crossbow is just a worst Eruptor. At first, I was like “Oh, but at least the crossbow shoots faster”. Not even. With an animation cancel, that doesn’t even matter. Besides, rate of fire means nothing. Every Eruptor shot kills so many enemies. I don’t even run a supply pack anymore with it. It’s so ammo efficient, I don’t find myself resupply often. The crossbow on the other hand, I’m resupplying a lot. And it’s not even a skill issue. I hit a lot of my shots. It’s just that it takes so many bolts to take down hive guards and broods. Don’t even get me started on rocket devastators. It doesn’t even stagger them, but the bolts do a sheepish amount of damage.
Seems like some of the guns are really well set up, where every person I talk to has a different fav weapon, which is cool, but so many of them just under-perform so hard to the point of uselessness. Even the peoples fav's usually just don't have the performance you want. I think everything should have been pushed up to the point of the old breaker.
9:53 it's also terrible against Bots with the amount of Berserkers running at you, they will cut you to pieces if you ever get pulled toward them
Edit: I've actually warmed up to it a little, I use stun nades now to help with the Berserkers
They want to force teams to coordinate their builds and stay together. That’s now how the majority of people play. They need a redesign of the weapons to account for this. I mean when is the last time you had a “team reload” right?
I'd love to see a stat of how much dmg the shield actually absorbs throughout a mission. It's insane.
I was super excited to unlock it, but The Explosive Crossbow is a joke. It can't destroy container's doors, can't destroy fences, can't close bug holes, takes 3+ shots to kill a Hive Guard, etc. Whats "explosive" about it? Really underwhelming.
Even the Grenade Pistol is better than it, and the Eruptor is superior in every way and more fun.
The crossbow pairs up really well with the guard dog
The cross bow + a jet pack can make it god tier depending on the map
If I could get more mags for it, I'd main the Redeemer every time
Haven’t bought this one yet. Not sure about. That stagger looks impressive though.
Crossbow is so mid, a larger ammo pool would make it more balanced + a 8 arrow mag size would make fair i think. Mainly hoping for the grenade to get buffed it's really fun. A shorter fuse, higher DOT damage, higher explosion damage would make it serve it's intended purpose imo.
would love to use crossbow more but the map design is just stupidly against you from using it
taking cover and peek out, invisible hitbox of that said cover blew you up
shooting through certain terrain like those smoke puffer or bushes...blew you up
beleive it or not....enemies corpses that clearly you can shoot through with your secondary.... blew you up
Watching you try to make the crossbow work is so sad lol.
bro was sweating his cheeks bending backwards irl just to make it work. yeah imma rather stick with the explosive rifle or flame shotgun and flamethrower vs bugs.
Never seen the game but I feel like they could implement piercing to some of the weapons it would be nice to have some crowd control not based on aoe
I feel like this crossbow could benefit from a faster fire rate being able to choose between like a burst fire or single fire like the Nagantaka from Warframe
Yes the explosion ragdoll is dumb it should knock you back not forward but also you should use the rover it lasers all the shreakers and other smaller bugs
I havent used the crossbow but i would only use it against bots, using explosions against swarms of bugs being 2 meters away from you doesnt seem like a fun time
You have to try the orbital gas strike. Imo works better than napalm and has a 75 second cool down. The bugbreaches dont make it out 😂 the only ones left would be a brood commander and anything bigger. Other than that the rest of troops die almost instantly. Give it a try it's really slept on
There's no way Gas works better than Napalm and it actually doesn't.
@@gorgeousgeorge7104 it does tho. I solo on level 8 and it's the easiest thing for bug breaches. Plus if you have it upgraded the recharge time is only 75 seconds. You haven't even tried it bruh 😭 open ur brain a little bit. It's an opinion and plus it gives him something to test out since he's always doing helldive
@@cesarurbano7858 I did. Even before all crazy buffs to fire damage Napalm strike was a clear winner
@@gorgeousgeorge7104 then you'd understand that gas strike has its use. It's just to test drive and the only reason I say it's better is bc of the 75 second recharge. Instead of waiting for the 2 minutes when the eagle needs to rearm
@@cesarurbano7858 before Eagle goes to rearm I can drop it three times, you know. And I can rearm it without even fighting or picking fights where I won't need it anyway :)
They should have made it have different ammunition types, e.g. napalm shot, ems shot and anti armor
Bro, I watch how you ran into those packs and patrols @ 27:15 and the pursuit is weak. I had an entire map of bugs chasing me on a lvl 4 bug map while helping a friend get some levels. She bought a PC account and needed to relevel. I'm level 62 and at the end of the mission I ended up killing over 700 and she killed over 250. A level 4 bug map should NOT be that hard, and you are having what looks to be practically a cake-walk (not really, but if you played on that map I was on you'd get it) on a 9. The pursuit just wasn't happening, the hunters were not mass jumping like they were on that lvl 4. I wish I had recorded it, but I did get the screen cap of the mission complete at the end. We had chargers and stalkers as well on that level 4 as well.
Those broods weren't even charging, they were walking up and strafing side to side. Mine were dropping warriors then running at me full speed. at about 30 minutes, I can see hunters in that giant swarm, but they weren't even leaping. We had bug breaches that had hunters literally springing forth from the breach. It was wild. It appears that the game you played and the one I played weren't even operating on the same attack parameters.
I don't consider myself to be super good at this game, but I'm definitely above average and can survive helldives with low death counts and even some missions not die at all. So, it's not a skill issue. Something is very wrong with the programming of mobs since that last patch. 950+ bugs on a lvl 4 mission is not typical. I've had over 600 kills on lvl 9s, but getting over 700 on a 4?!? Even people on lvl 5's with full parties are complaining that it's the new 'Helldive'.
Another thing I noticed, you had avenues of escape. No matter where I turned on that lvl 4, there would be spawns. Literally watch them pop up from the ground with no breach called. When you died you had a path to escape.
You talk about too little firepower, yet you still manage to clear lvl 9s solo. I think this is why the devs (in part) are doing this with the spawns and weapons to make things harder.
So far, not impressed with the new weapons either. The new explosive shotgun does damage, but 5 rounds and a cocking mechanism makes it super slow to fire, when you have an auto-cannon that can fire really fast. I get it's a primary weapon, not a support weapon, but they all just feel a bit underwhelming to me. They can't seem to replace the shotguns for bugs. The incendiary, or breaker are still my go to for bugs.
what do you think about the level issues currently in the game? Because something is definitely broken.
With each new video i watch regarding the new battlepass the more im convinced that its not worth getting
I tried it on the bots and was pretty underwhelmed. It was good for the scout striders, but it tickles the devastators, which are one of the more annoying enemies when they build up. I don't know if it's the damage fall off from center or what, but it felt like the explosion did way less damage then the Eruptor.
You know the 500 works on the rogue station if you drop it right next to it. Works way better than the hellbomb
i really like the rover dog as a replacement for the shield, could you try a run with that and see if you can solo a lvl 9 mission?
Explid8ng crossbow is awesome ...on medium difficulty.
Why on Medium? Enemies have the same ammount of HP The crossbow is quite underpowered at any lvl. You test weapons on enemies and their stats do not change in any difficulty.
@@-Triumph the point is there aren't that many enemies at that difficulty
@@-Triumph Probaly medium because at that level 90% of the enemies are oneshot. You can clear a full bug breach with 2-3 bolts.
Never used it on bugs but it's just ass on bots. If it's not a headshot it takes 3 shots to kill a devistator. It just doesn't have the utility or damage to warrant taking it over any primary. If it could take out fabricators and had medium armor pen it would be fine.
The crosbow take too long to get rid of hordes, that why you end up getting loop non-stop. dont have it unlock yet, but not sure i want it.
I've found that if you're using the redeemer a lot then the primary you chose is probably bad.
welp at least one weapon they added (grenade pistol) is useful. One shots hive guards and a great combo to complete objectives while saving your high powered impact nades for threats. It's really lame that most people simply wont use any of the new weapons because they're useless at high difficulty.;
i dont understand why you dont seal the bug holes you just run past them?
great videos tho love the content
making it one-handed and a little stronger would make a good buff
ive tried the eruptor and tbh, personnal review, its too good to be fun, so instead when i get the crossbow and hand-grenade launcher i'll do a lil silly riot build :)
Maybe you can pair this weapon with rover to deal with small bugs so you dont get overwhelmed too often
Honestly my biggest disappointment so far was buying the Blitzer, that thing sounded so cool and looks so cool but has the range of a flyspray bottle with 1ml left.
You should run guard dog rover and the dagger, then you can run away from bugs hip firing one laser whilst your rover is killing them too.
when all else fails, the punisher is the tried and true option for consistency
@8:10
Your 500kg eagle came back online, you could use that to destroy the main building instead of a hellbomb. You can use a 500kg or Orbital Precision Strike to destroy it, very useful when there are too many bugs around destroying the hellbomb before it goes off.
edit: eventually you did it lol @11:03
I used the cross bow on one bot mission and one bug mission and that was enough for me 😂 there are so many weapons that do the job better, grenade launcher, grenade pistol, auto cannon, eruptor, even to lure away patrols I can just throw a grenade, it was fun to Try but that's about it
Yeah it definitely seems better with solo "stealth" than a one man army playstyle
When you do seaf you can type in the chat na na he smoke ems so you can always check again if you forget
I can see the crossbow being quite effective in the tutorial level.
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3 Granads on a Shrieker Nest will destroy it (one of them).
You can easily tell just how much they're holding back the capabilities of the weapons and it almost feels like they're actually afraid of their creations as if they thought that avery single weapon in the game was perfectly balanced and had an actual use when in reality most of them simply doesn't have any or they're just outclassed by the same old 3 or 4 weapons everyone ends up using at the end of the day.
I've over 200 hours on the game and i'm lvl 47 and I can guarantee you that if I want to try hard on a solo helldive I`d probably won't be using the new weapons (cutting edge and democratic detonation since they have only 1 usable weapon each) if I want to make my life easier and manage to extract with my samples, unless I'm on a squad with friends just to have a laugh.
do a full grenade build with the grenade pistol see if its viable XD
Does anyone else feel like the napalm doesn’t do as much damage when you’re playing yourself? I’ve seen this man shut down a bug breach but when I do the same I’ve watched scavengers walk through the fire with no problem
If you’re solo you would be network host and fire should work in that case. The known bug is when you are not network host bugs ignore damage over time including gas
Scavengers seem to survive burning from the incendiary breaker as well. One video I watched on it said scavengers might have some resistance to fire along with chargers and Bile titans.
@@Eagle-eye-pieI’ve also noticed I have to two tap them sometimes even after they’re burning, chargers and titans I get but scavengers 🤯🤯 that don’t even sound right game design wise. But hey I’m no game dev and I’m still having fun
Devs got some serious skill issues
With an ammo nerf, this weapon would fit well as a secondary.
The crossbow in its current form does feel like a secondary, yeah.
I still haven't unlocked the crossbow but as far as I know bows in all games sucks if gun exist in that game
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I'm still relatively new so haven't unlocked it yet but maybe this could be the first primary suited for a stealth load out. That's usually what crossbows do in other games.
Oh you mention the same idea later in the video, don't know why you didn't test it out then. Would be useful to know.
there's 0 reason to play solo + stealthy unless you intentionally want to progress slower in this game and idk.. have less fun and endure more frustration. I'm not gonna recite every cringe and godawful incident I've had while playing solo with this game but yeah.. just don't play solo. like someone else said, the game is called ''Helldivers'' not ''Helldiver''
@@Daminionzhopefully the leaked robot assistance helps out with those who play solo. I saw a video the other day mentioning them coming. Reminds me of deep rock galactics solo mode drone companion.
@@Daminionz Believe me, I also almost exclusively play with my squad of 3 mates but you can't deny its a viable playstyle with mechanics that enable such a playstyle. There's a community of people that play in such a way and to ignore that is stupid.
Also nowhere did I say solo+stealth did I, stealth can be done in a squad game as well and is can be a useful role for drawing away bot drops/tunnels from the main group while dealing with outposts.
Another thing, saying its less fun is bs. Who are you to suddenly decide what people find fun, some people, me included love the different type of challenge stealth can bring to the game, if you find it frustrating, maybe just get good.
@@mistakendawg8885 yhea I don't think your playstyle will work in a sqad my friend... stealth is not for group play xd only solo. if you want to roleplay with your friends then sure ig...
I can tell you rn tho high difficulty lvls is all about sticking together like glue and rushing thru objectives. Best stealth you can do in this game is going double rifle with antimaterial as supp weapon and being a ranged sniper. you come into my helldive difficulty doing all this mumbo jumbo roleplay solo proning.. yeeaah think it might be a kick my friendo... by the time you rotate to do whatever you're saying you wanna do someone else just bumrushes in clears everything, flings in 500kg and we're onto the next obj alrdy before reinforcements are here.
I assumed you meant solo because I've never seen anyone play this lame in my groups xd game just aint built for that in coops, unless yea yall 4 roleplaying some stuff premade then do w/e.
I hear that crossbow do better if you aim on ground instead directly on enemy
I think the Crossbow should have a charge option, where the longer you hold right click the farther it goes, but also the damage increases exponentially for a full charge... Or something unique along those lines. Explosion radius should be a bit bigger. Damage should be a little bit higher, doesn't need to be massive. But if it can't handle medium sized enemies, then that's a problem.
- Explodes but can't close bug holes/destroy Bot fabricators
- Medium-slow firing speed
- Cannot crowd control well
- Damage can be lacking
- Distance fall off
- Self harm
That's a lot of negatives, and there's probably still more I didn't mention.
The amount of ammo you get for it is probably one of the only positive things I can say about it, and I guess it's technically a fun weapon. Just not fun when you're constantly getting swarmed/out-gunned.
It seems more effective with splash damage then direct damage.
I agree. It does kinda feel like the explosion doesn't hit right when you have a direct hit.
It can be so much better if they increase the fire rate
I typically play support when going against bugs either running a stalwart or arc but this does not look like a gun id trade my shotguns for
crossbow best gun