Who is the Thalmor leader? - Elder Scrolls Lore Analysis
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Sorry if I sound tired, I was tired
Imperial Knowledge hahaha true that
Imperial Knowledge He man I just wanted to say that you shouldnt downgrade yourself and your videos. You keep saying that content has bad quality and that other channels are better. Dont say you have bad quality or that others are better. You have great videos and a natural talent to explain lore.
Sorry for being sorry because I'm sorry, SORRY XD
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Don't worry everyone is.
When your core audience doesn't care about your physical and mental health
and ask for more!
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Nazeem is secretly the great high king emperor president of the Summerset Isles.
The Cloud District is code for Alinor O.O
@@FallenRingbearer When his wife says that you can find him at the jarl's backside, she means plotting for the Second Great War.
Well, I think, Summerset still has a king, as a ceremonial position. But Thalmor is the real power there.
He is known as many names , The Father of Necromancy , The King of Worms , The First Lich , The Champion of Molag Bal , The leader of the Thalmor , The conspirator of the Planemeld but one thing always remains the same , his true name , Mannimarco
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Didn’t Molag Cosby kill him in the 2nd Era when he found out Mannimarco was gonna betray him?
could you imagine lmao, that would be great if that was the case
That would be so funny since I like to play the games with the idea that most of the player characters are the same immortal guy, especially for this anytime they deal with Menamarco. Imagine the hero taking the fight to the Thalmor and slaughtering hordes of them to get to their leader, and it’s Marko.
Hero “What? You? How many times do we have to do this man?”
Marco “What are you talking about….” Looking at the hero’s face he flashes back to every defeat he had at their hand and begins to tremble with fear.
Marco “it’s you, oh gods not you.”
And he begins having some kind of mental breakdown dealing with the trauma of his defeats. The end.
All we know for certain is that they probably have a small, funny looking mustache
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during the quest diplomatic immunity, right after the player retrieves their gear, two thalmor soldiers can be overheard discussing the dragon crises, and mages being sent from alinor to assist in dealing with it as "herself is finally starting to take notice" (with emphasis on "herself" I think that implies theres at least one figure that holds the majority of political power in the aldmeri dominon
I think they meant ambassador Elenwen
I think ancano is actually a high ranking thalmor. He probably saw the eye of magnus as an easy way to achieve the goals of the party, but got corrupted by it when in contact with its power.
Ancano is just an idiot trying to prove himself to others, especially actual high ranking thalmor members.
@@Zwiddo that actually makes sense, in fact, it makes too much sense.
"The power to unmake the world at my fingertips"
Not to rule the world
Not to destroy his enemies
Not just do "destroy" the world, to "unmake" it.
He knows more than most people think.
Sometimes I wonder if a Daedric Prince is secretly pulling the strings in the Thalmor.
Wouldn't surprise me, considering they're Daedra worshippers.
The Forgotten Hero wait, I thought the high elves worshipped Auri-El?
+Finn -
The High Elves in general do, but the Thalmor are Daedra worshippers, at least their higher ups are.
The Forgotten Hero Lord Naarifin isn't everyone. Plus the Emperor had Goldbrand during the Great War, is he worship daedra?
+Theiff
Naarifin is one of their main commanders and worked closesly with a cult of Boethiah worshippers.
The Emperor did not wield Goldbrand.
I think it’s still the King of Alinor (The King of Summerset Islands) at least officially. Although there must be some darker figure behind the king who rules everything and everyone in the Aldmeri Dominion army. Much like Littlefinger in GoT to make an example.
Nameless Hero so he wasn’t overthrown?
Littlefinger didnt rule shit... he grabbed the daughter ov his childhood crush ran away to some rock and died in the cold.
now Vares... thats a power behind a throne (even though in the books he is wrote like somebody's favorite rogue character with super powers and far too much time on thier hands to scheme
You mean Tywin ;)
The Thalmor I would imagine is run by an entire board of directors sort of leadership but keep in the shadows mixed with the Veiled Heritance which we face against in ESO.
I would like to see Thalmor leader as main antagonist in Elders Scrolls 6.
I think they'd have a King or Queen as a Public Face in a way. The King/Queen would be the person who attends public events while a Council similar to The Elder Council that controls everything.
There are Concentration camps in Valenwood.
I always cut down the Thalmor whenever I come across them, if I can I provide their prisoner with at least a weapon and some clothes then I will. Long live Talos!
Kier Canning The Empire will win the Second Great War and take down the Thalmor. For the Empire! For the Legion!
Brother Pompius Assicus I hope they do bring the Thalmor down, restore Talos as the ninth divine and restore peace to the Empire and its provinces.
In theory couldn't the Dragonborn make a claim for the throne, restore the Blades as his/her bodyguards (from both Imperial and Stormcloak factions) and declare the Thalmor as enemies of the state?
Kier Canning Yes!
Talos guide you
Kier Canning Restoring the Blades means killing Paarthunax. I'm not gonna kill Uncle Paarthy because some edgy swordsman can't get over the past. But yes, technically, the Last Dragonborn can do Tiber Septim 2.0
They follow a strict code written by ancients as a collection of records from social organization to faith, a product of altmer history from their rise to fall. All thalmor actions are guided by it and each member guarentee that everyone follow "the code".
Great video i see how much efort you put in your videos
I only started TES with Skyrim so Idk if he's been overused besides ESO but I think it would be interesting if Mannimarco was like a Secret Figurehead of the Thalmor
We know they consider being “pure-bred” to be important for them, could this factor into the political structure somehow? Maybe the most purebred elves are in the council?
It'd be lol if the Thalmor Chancellor was a deranged Bosmer.
My theory is that the leader of the Thalmor is the Altmer with the highest degree of arcane power and “racial purity” due to dialogue in Oblivion
Amazing video, I have a idea for you I really wanna see a video on the greybeards and I think it would be so interesting
Maybe it is command council led by certain high ranking officials
We all know it's the Adoring Fan
He is a bosmer btw
Keep making these videos. They're great and fun to watch!
I love those videos that are speculation, my favourite is probably the one about the septim coins.
The leader is either Jyggalag or the last Aylied king
I honestly believe the direct decendents of Aylieds are involved.
Good video!
I remember hearing two Thalmor soldiers in Skyrim talking about, quite possibly, a queen of Alinor. One of them said something like “Have you heard what Herself did?” I don’t remember the specifics of what was said, only that the soldier referred to ‘Herself’
I always thought they were talking spit about Elenwen. Hmmm....
How does the system work in Summerset in Elder Scrolls Online? I know its pre-Thalmor era, but understanding can be gleamed from it.
I always seen it as some sort of aldmeri council
I can't wait to watch your Thalmor & Stormcloak "propaganda" videos, man! The Imperial one was well done. Too short, but well done.
I am going to do two thalmor ones as the first one did not turn out very positive about the thalmor haha
Imperial Knowledge What makes it not very positive? Was it in the narrative?
It is very dark and it portrays them as murderers lol
Imperial Knowledge Oh I see. Hahaha!
What if Lord Naarifin is a Snow Elf but he turned his back to Auriel and worships daedra now.
Shweeeeeet video, my dude! Very enjoyable speculation sesh.
Did you really not mention that one the thalmor soldiers says something about someone only referred to as "Herself"? I thought you were going to talk about that and was kind of disappointed that you didn't.
Like to see a vid like this about the falmer
Good video bud. I remember when I covered the Third Aldmeri Dominion I found only the council that governed the Dominion. I never thought of one person or a small group holding the most power of council
Government led by a small group of people is called Oligarchy. The Thalmar sound to me like a caste system.
you say "the elder scrolls doesn't have passports," yet the player character in skyrim was arrested for illegally crossing the border...
Its definitely " The Adorning Fan".
Good video
Their leader is the last Ayleid. And you thought they were evil before.
I’d say. They are led by Tyrion and Teclis.
They probs have a parliament then the Aldmeri government that is under the control of the Thalmor council that has the High chancellor or supreme leader at the top basically the thalmor is a Dictatoral Oligarchy
During the war they used a Daedric Artifact so it must have some Daedric power in there too.
I really love rping in Skyrim rn I’m playing a Thalmor that went to Skyrim to kill of the rebellion that threatened the empire.
Would have been really great if they had created one last DLC to wrap up Skyrims story, having it involve the war against the Thalmor. Mostly because I doubt we'll see anything about it in the next game.
The greatest elf of all time who will free Tamriel of all humans
It's High Kinlady Estre the Veiled Queen
What if the Dragonborn is a descendant of the Champion of Cyrodiil? For his bravery in putting an end to the Oblivion Crisis, Akatosh blessed all those in the Champion's bloodline from that point on with dragon blood in their veins, and with each generation that dragon blood grew stronger and stronger until the events of Skyrim, when the current descendent has the most potent amount of dragon blood within him/her.
da best o' da best oh yeah, I forgot about that
No.
Kier Canning Id like to think he's an incarnation of talos or lorkhan
I would imagine that the Thelmor are lead by a shadowy elite kind of like SEELE from neon genesis evangelion.
How little we know about the Thalmor and political situation beyond most things after the novels is irking me more and more. Yes, Skyrim is a backwater lace where the politics of Nirn do not penetrate that much. But it's quite ridiculous how much is left unanswered compared to previous games.
Also, I think Ancano is quite more higher up in the hierarchy as he's acting alone and is dealing with matters very close to the Altmer heart of culture: relics of a ancestor god.
believe the thalmor have an elder council type deal... lol thought I heard that somewhere
elder council meaning the oldest amongst them
Patricia Hromyak One of Psychotrip's speculation threads on altmeri society mentioned how there were altmer sorcerer masters at the Crystal-Like-Law, that did not really interact with nobody but rather decided to use some kind of telepathy to do so. They were also among the eldest of altmer.
The whole thread is just speculation and headcanons though, but maybe that's what you were looking for.
MissyMuffin that was it, I couldn't remember for anything but I knew I heard about the oldest among them giving council to the leaders, but basically "they" were the leaders and also they were the oldest sorcerers and they spoke to no one and all that, except thru telepathic magic. Good stuff ty for letting me know where all that came from it was one of those things that eat away at you and bother you trying to remember.. lol
Patricia Hromyak No problem lmao.
The thalmor is run by Tod Howard
Do Talos vs Reman Cyrodiil
I really hope ES: VI opens up multiple provinces to explore instead of the typical one province per game and takes place across High Rock, Hammerfell, Cyrodiil, Valenwood and Elswyr as you choose to either fight for the Aldmeri Dominion or the Empire.
Less games for them to make, Less money for them, More expensive game, Less rich Story sense Landscaping Is high priority.
It would suck but would be cool If Betheseda learned to make a good game alone.
so the aldmeri dominion is a oligarchy?
is queen ayrenn still alive?
lunarsyed as far as we know problaby
Hell for all we know the Council is for deciding the robes length of thalmor robes 😅😅😅
What if it’s a deamon? Think about they want to worship of a god talos so Maybe right, it’s a draderic god or or akatosh himself prefers the elves and helps them wipe out humanity all because humanity worships talos because talos is the new main god and akatosh could feel jealousy of this
Jerald Grande Auri-El prefers the elves not Akatosh,they are not the same deity because of the actions of the Marukhati Selectives.
@@randomguy4167 Auri-el is evil
They probably have a führer
What about the King of Alinor?
He was apparently overthrown when the thalmor came to power
you might wanna cover this in another vid but the Thalmor and the Dominion are considered to be two separate organizations oddly
+Archus orez
Well, that's logical.
The Thalmor govern it, they are the ruling body.
The Dominion itself is the nation.
Much like how the Empire (nation) is governed by the Elder Council and the Emperor (ruling body).
Perhaps a puppet of them.. Like that in the background the real decisions are made and he is just the face of the government.. Overthrown doesn't have to be removed.. Someone took most powers away from him.. Like Thalmor is a cult within the Dominion regime.. (a extremely powerful one but still a cult)..
DutchGabbers The literal definition of something being overthrown is it is removed. Something cannot be overthrown without it being removed, otherwise it hasn’t been overthrown
It's 'Marco
I kinda don't want a single leader, I feel like they might be a derivative Hitler allegory, at best, the fanbase will call them "Elf-Hitler" anyway.
It would be fine to have a council of leaders (based on county controlled or government departments).
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It would honestly make a lot of sense if the Thalmor were lead by a Sload
😈 Yes 2 Times Austria Started a WW. 2 Times Germany took the blame.
Aristocratic Republic or an Oligarchical Republic
I like how the DarkBrotherHood Shits on the Empire by killing Titus Mede and weakening them and destroying their courage even more.
It seems like they are closer to the Soviet Union than the Nazis. Seeing them around skyrim they always travel with a couple standard soldiers and one officer looking dude who seems to act as a political officer like a commissar.
talos used the numidium to roast the summerset isles, I understand the thalmor way of thinking, they want to make the imperials pay for their insolence.
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The Thalmor is Negan☺
What if the Thalmor are the good people?
I mean the only perspective we've had so far is the one of the Imperials and Nords who hate them.
There's every possibility that Talos was a murdering tyrant and that the Thalmor were right about him. People only judge on what they see infront of them sometimes...
Caiã Wlodarski why?
+Caiã Wlodarski The Arcturian Heresy was pure propaganda written after the White Gold Concordat. If you played Oblivion, it is proved that Tiber Septim is the ninth divine because of the Armor of Tiber Septim. Now Talos, is the god of war in the TES universe. Each of the Aedra and Daedra have their own spheres. Talos' sphere is war, while Mara's is love, Dibella's is sex, beauty, and art, and Akatosh is time. Of course Talos was a mighty conqueror, and warlord, or else he couldn't be the god of war. He mantled Lorkhan, and achieved CHIM. That is how he changed Cyrodiil's landscape from jungle all throughout time from the Dawn Era to the Fourth Era. Vivec also achieved CHIM just like Talos. Talos *IS* Lorkhan because he mantled Lorkhan also known as Shezzar, Sheor, Shor, and Sep.
You need to look up on the Lore the Thalmor are right about Talos it's not about wither he's a god or not it's about wither he deserves to be a god or not. Oh and Talos didn't mantle Lorkhan/Shor he mantled Ebonarm/Reman/St.Alessia.
Valerious Catastros Well Talos being Lorkan i.e. the false God just shows how he is wrong to achieve Chim. Vicec was killed and his city destroyed for acts not that dissimilar to Tiber Septims. Personally, I am a supporter of the Thalmor as it has been too long since the eleves have had any rightful influence over Tameriel. In fact I helped build the 1st Aldmeri Dominion in the second era as the Queen Ayrenn's agent for her rule (that only wanted to help spread the advanced culture of the elves to the lesser races) to be thrown down and her people merciless killed just for the sake of conquering. Talos does not deserve Chim.
MagicalBeetroot *Elves but in the Elder Scrolls they prefer the term Mer/Meri except the last Snow Elf, Also I don't support the Thalmor but I'll admit their not entirely wrong about Talos.
TES mod shezarrine can answer that, however that mod isn't Canon
Thalmor = CCP