I love the OB Peacocks. I acquired a 120 gallon tank that had a variety of fish that included several of them. My thought is, that if they will breed in a tank with other kind, they can do it in the wild too. I've read comments and posts about people frowning upon this, but I'd say that you cannot stop nature. I personally like the OB peacocks better than the others. My favorite are the cotton candy peacocks. I have 4 of them. I purposefully bought the 4th one from someone who bred them because I love them so much. Isn't the hobby suppose to be geared towards the hobbyist? My fish are happy and healthy and they bring me great joy. I think as long as the fish are happy and the hobbyist is happy, then everyone else can go somewhere. lol
Also those fish live in the same lake... Do you think that stops different variations from getting it on?? Peacock is a peacock.Now if you had a giraffe and peacock mate THAT would be a hybrid.
Probably, otherwise they wouldn't have evolved into different species. New species evolve as a result of a population being split in two and adapting to slightly different conditions. If this never happened and the populations were free to regularly breed with each other, they wouldn't have become different to one another. Different species of the same genus exist in the same or overlapping territories all over the world; something is obviously stopping them from breeding with one another. Also, the two species don't have to be drastically different to one another to count their offspring as hybrids, that's a horrible misconception: anything that is a product of two different species mating is a hybrid, no matter how closely related the parent species are.
Definitely a cool video. I'd say male is a blue regal, female is firefish ob. I'd love to see the outcome of the fry. I'm sure this will be an awesome variant. People don't seem to realize hybridization happens all the time in the wild. To the ones that are so stuck on keeping "pure bred" fish, or culling hybrids, take your argument up with Mother Nature... These fish are beautiful.
No it doesn't. Hybridisation is a rare event in the wild. Two different species might be similar but they will be slightly adapted to two different things. Merge those together and you get something in the middle that isn't really adapted for either. Sometimes this isn't the case but it usually is.
Wow... What a cool video! Since I don't raise fish to sell, I have no problem with buying, keeping or breeding hybrid fish. However, I highly respect the conservationists. Westminster Dog Show may be my Super Bowl but mutts are my favorite dogs! Like you said, it should all be about what fulfills us individually.
great footage!!! I love hybrid peacocks, my Phoenix, my dragons blood, & my OB's are my favorite peacocks. Some of those fry are going to be stunning, no doubt about it👍😎👌
I mean.. the Cichlid family including the genus Discus are some of the coolest parents in the animal kingdom.. Parent's taking on a fish almost twice their size to defend their spawn is a wonder of dedication and of intrigue.
I know this video is a year old now but just discovered it! Great video! I have a male just like your blue one - mine came from an ‘assorted’ labelled tank too. Mine bred with a female which was also ‘assorted’ (all grey with stripes) back in October - I now have 25 Fry in my old tank which I have no idea what they will look like in a few months time (one has turned out albino which is really interesting!) she also mates with a stunning OB of mine (my dominant male) in June and I have 8 of those Fry that have been moved to my main tank (all doing great) starting to colour up a bit now but it’s like a lottery as to how they will end up! :D
Im activly croosbreed Malawi, because ive noticed that they dont get sick as much as pure breed. Much of the storefish is inbreed over a longer periode and is much more vunerable to infections and stuff.
So I'm definitely not knowledgeable with African cichlids as I've only kept NW but I love your vid; hybrids need love too! I could use your help though to try to figure out what I bought a few days ago. Just throwing it out there, it's a 55g tank with eheim and HOB filters. Currently one very small flowerhorn looking hybrid. Please take a look!!
uhhh you guys know that peacock OB and peacock EB still = peacock and may become a variation but not a hybrid. A hybrid is when you cross 2 different species of cichlids. For example Jack Dempsey + African Jewel = Hybrid. Yes they can breed.
Your male looks like a red fin borleyi and your age male is an ob hybrid. I love hybrids I’ve been going nuts breeding hybrids and all of them have been badass
Can anybody tell me whether OB fries have the blotches when they hatch or do they develop them as they mature. I have almost the same 2 fish as video that have bred but no spots on fries... Thank you anybody....
I don't have a problem with hybrid fish as long as people know what they are & are honest about what they are. A lot of fish stores won't buy fish from hobbyist or wholesalers who don't know what kind of fish they have & rightly so IMHO. BTW the two peacocks in the video were good looking fish. The male was a real stunner. How did the fry turn out?
Although a few years old this is an interesting video to watch and appreciate the commentary about hybrids. I have been a tarantula hobbyist for many years and am just starting on a freshwater fish hobby. In tarantulas hybrid breeders are almost reviled and there are a number of reasons why people are so against it; like you mention loss of purebred species is one major reason given the relatively small number of species discovered. From the comments it appears that freshwater fish hobbyists are more open to the idea. Being so new to fish keeping I don't have an opinion on hybrids. Over the last few years have you come up with any good reasoning for or against hybrid breeding in fish based on your experiences?
Maybe it is my Horticulture background but I am always looking at certain fish and wondering what genetic secrets lurk within. Look at the wild Betta splendens/imbellis, Discus, Guppies, Platies, and even Oscars -- there is no hint in the wild fish of the colors, shapes, finnage that a disciplined program of line, cross, and outbreeding can draw forth. I would not put mutts out into the hobby though -- I would wait until there was a worthwhile pure breeding Aquarium Strain. All the many culls can be put to use to feed others, like happens in the wild. Nice video!
I personally have to have around 100 tanks so I can keep all my African cichlids seperated,it's a lot of effort to keep everything separate but this is the way I do it .i think there is enough true fish to breed without having to have hybrids but in saying that if there for your own use or your making a new strain I don't have a problem with it if it's all kept honest.
So I bread Dragon Bloods and OBS together but The Offspring I don't see any obs does this come later the splotches.... they are still very young like an eighth of an inch maybe three-quarters
I got mine the same way but igot 2 males an the rrest female an he bred with a female peacock of less color an they would be peacock cichlids but if my ob breeds with the blue regal peacock then that would be different I have fottoge as well
I would think most of the the fish in the wild are hybrids letsthe following happened a log or what have you tipped over keeping some fish from the same family together. Fish breed just like us. Then the fish that looked similar kept breeding. Just a thought. Great footage.
What kind of logic is that? New species aren't made by two populations hybridising; it's the opposite. Hybridisation is an undoing of evolution. Obviously not a problem in captivity but to claim this kind of thing happens on any large scale or is normal in the wild is false. If that were the case then species wouldn't exist. Species exist as a direct result of two populations _not_ breeding with each other.
If i get a hybrid I would just separate them from the pure strains and keep hybrids with hybrids so no strains will be lost and hybrids will have their peace
Hybridization is equally as necessary as keeping lines pure. It’s the only way to create new species and it’s the only way to keep the hobby growing. It lies upon us as fishkeepers to be honest with ourselves and with whom ever we share our fish with and the same with fish farms we can only hope there is some integrity within their system and business practices. We lose fish completely when money becomes the priority and main objective and not the quality of the quality of the fish we are looking to produce. Let’s remember that dogs and cats are hybrids of their ancestors as well as the human race in general. So my point is and remains the same just be honest and truthful and your sure to find someone who will want them.
To be honest the male doesn't look to be a pure fish and as the female is an OB she most definitely is not so these fry would be a very unusual mix if the male was in fact a hybrid
hi . Male is mbenji Blue Regal Peacock and female is sunset firefish ob. A lot of fish which some people call line bred are hybrids from the wild.Meaning they are hybrids in the wild and people get them an say their pure line bred. Fire fish is a hybrid fish. hybrids are made in the wild which cannot be controlled and same as in a home aquaria with a variety of fish. I think its like saying two different race of people shouldnt breed.I say Let and Let be as long as deformaty is not being created
Genghis think you could be wrong not sure but john from kgtropicals has a video on this subject with hybrids exactly the same as the blue ones. Check it out vids called African cichlid hybrids, love em or hate em??
A mix of Peacock's shouldn't be called a "Hybrid" but they should be labeled as a man made cross. Keep them and tell people what they are. Crosses are some of the best look peacocks.
Great Video.I watch my MBuna's breed all the time.I'm in the same boat,I don't know the name's of the variety's that are breeding.have some Hybrid's which are growing like crazy.But most of the fry get ate by the rest of the fish in the tank.I just put my first video on my channel with more to follow.Everyone check it out and if you like it subscribe and share.Fish On
This is the best footage I’ve seen of this. Thanks so much. Lucky to have been present during this!
I love the way you pronounce hybrid as "high-bred" because that's how I feel about them. The mix of these beautiful fix should be a sight to see!
I love the OB Peacocks. I acquired a 120 gallon tank that had a variety of fish that included several of them. My thought is, that if they will breed in a tank with other kind, they can do it in the wild too. I've read comments and posts about people frowning upon this, but I'd say that you cannot stop nature. I personally like the OB peacocks better than the others. My favorite are the cotton candy peacocks. I have 4 of them. I purposefully bought the 4th one from someone who bred them because I love them so much. Isn't the hobby suppose to be geared towards the hobbyist? My fish are happy and healthy and they bring me great joy. I think as long as the fish are happy and the hobbyist is happy, then everyone else can go somewhere. lol
Amazing footage, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate this, as I am BRAND new to fish keeping.
Also those fish live in the same lake... Do you think that stops different variations from getting it on?? Peacock is a peacock.Now if you had a giraffe and peacock mate THAT would be a hybrid.
Mad World Mystic 💯 I tell people this all the time!
Probably, otherwise they wouldn't have evolved into different species. New species evolve as a result of a population being split in two and adapting to slightly different conditions. If this never happened and the populations were free to regularly breed with each other, they wouldn't have become different to one another. Different species of the same genus exist in the same or overlapping territories all over the world; something is obviously stopping them from breeding with one another.
Also, the two species don't have to be drastically different to one another to count their offspring as hybrids, that's a horrible misconception: anything that is a product of two different species mating is a hybrid, no matter how closely related the parent species are.
I'm trying to breed a giraffe and blue dolphin
just found your channel. fish and guitars. man of good taste
Love hybrid fish some of the most good looking fish
The offspring are spectacular
Definitely a cool video. I'd say male is a blue regal, female is firefish ob. I'd love to see the outcome of the fry. I'm sure this will be an awesome variant. People don't seem to realize hybridization happens all the time in the wild. To the ones that are so stuck on keeping "pure bred" fish, or culling hybrids, take your argument up with Mother Nature...
These fish are beautiful.
No it doesn't. Hybridisation is a rare event in the wild. Two different species might be similar but they will be slightly adapted to two different things. Merge those together and you get something in the middle that isn't really adapted for either. Sometimes this isn't the case but it usually is.
Hybrids are great
The zebra is mad she didnt breed with him lol your fish are beautifull.
Shout out from Wisconsin. I live down by Milwaukee and I remember that ice storm you're talking about.
Wow... What a cool video! Since I don't raise fish to sell, I have no problem with buying, keeping or breeding hybrid fish. However, I highly respect the conservationists. Westminster Dog Show may be my Super Bowl but mutts are my favorite dogs! Like you said, it should all be about what fulfills us individually.
Love them very beautiful fish
Did you film the fry growing up,I'm interested in seeing how they came out
great footage!!! I love hybrid peacocks, my Phoenix, my dragons blood, & my OB's are my favorite peacocks. Some of those fry are going to be stunning, no doubt about it👍😎👌
Beautiful Male!
Cool😀... super beautiful male you've got there
Man, I don't want to say it but I'm going to say it.. GREAT fish porn.
I mean.. the Cichlid family including the genus Discus are some of the coolest parents in the animal kingdom.. Parent's taking on a fish almost twice their size to defend their spawn is a wonder of dedication and of intrigue.
Don't lose sleep,
keep doing what you do you have no control if that's what you love. were not on this Earth to worry.
I know this video is a year old now but just discovered it! Great video!
I have a male just like your blue one - mine came from an ‘assorted’ labelled tank too. Mine bred with a female which was also ‘assorted’ (all grey with stripes) back in October - I now have 25 Fry in my old tank which I have no idea what they will look like in a few months time (one has turned out albino which is really interesting!) she also mates with a stunning OB of mine (my dominant male) in June and I have 8 of those Fry that have been moved to my main tank (all doing great) starting to colour up a bit now but it’s like a lottery as to how they will end up! :D
How did your fry turn out? I'm curious. The same happened in my tank as well.
I agree with the commenters. It looks like a blue regal to me.
I'm pretty sure your blue fish is a blue Ali hap
Im activly croosbreed Malawi, because ive noticed that they dont get sick as much as pure breed. Much of the storefish is inbreed over a longer periode and is much more vunerable to infections and stuff.
I would love to see the offspring.
Beautiful male - no real issues with the hybrid like you said just be honest about it.
So I'm definitely not knowledgeable with African cichlids as I've only kept NW but I love your vid; hybrids need love too! I could use your help though to try to figure out what I bought a few days ago. Just throwing it out there, it's a 55g tank with eheim and HOB filters. Currently one very small flowerhorn looking hybrid. Please take a look!!
Hybrids in what way? German reds are a hybrid which are line bred, dragon bloods, ob peacocks.. Many fish came along due to hydridation
I think it comes down to ethics and how the breeder is honest about it.
uhhh you guys know that peacock OB and peacock EB still = peacock and may become a variation but not a hybrid. A hybrid is when you cross 2 different species of cichlids. For example Jack Dempsey + African Jewel = Hybrid. Yes they can breed.
Your male looks like a red fin borleyi and your age male is an ob hybrid. I love hybrids I’ve been going nuts breeding hybrids and all of them have been badass
Can anybody tell me whether OB fries have the blotches when they hatch or do they develop them as they mature. I have almost the same 2 fish as video that have bred but no spots on fries... Thank you anybody....
I don't have a problem with hybrid fish as long as people know what they are & are honest about what they are. A lot of fish stores won't buy fish from hobbyist or wholesalers who don't know what kind of fish they have & rightly so IMHO. BTW the two peacocks in the video were good looking fish. The male was a real stunner. How did the fry turn out?
Do you have any pictures or videos of babies of that pair because I got the same pair breeding. I cant wait to see how they turn up😄
So beautiful man
Although a few years old this is an interesting video to watch and appreciate the commentary about hybrids. I have been a tarantula hobbyist for many years and am just starting on a freshwater fish hobby. In tarantulas hybrid breeders are almost reviled and there are a number of reasons why people are so against it; like you mention loss of purebred species is one major reason given the relatively small number of species discovered. From the comments it appears that freshwater fish hobbyists are more open to the idea. Being so new to fish keeping I don't have an opinion on hybrids. Over the last few years have you come up with any good reasoning for or against hybrid breeding in fish based on your experiences?
I have a yellow peacock and a ob female breeding she has a mouthful not sure if I keep them or not
I think the male is a blue regal and the mom is an ob peacock
Maybe it is my Horticulture background but I am always looking at certain fish and wondering what genetic secrets lurk within. Look at the wild Betta splendens/imbellis, Discus, Guppies, Platies, and even Oscars -- there is no hint in the wild fish of the colors, shapes, finnage that a disciplined program of line, cross, and outbreeding can draw forth.
I would not put mutts out into the hobby though -- I would wait until there was a worthwhile pure breeding Aquarium Strain. All the many culls can be put to use to feed others, like happens in the wild.
Nice video!
Iv got the same fish breading in my tank
I have a few blue males like him alunacara bulier I believe if thts how u spell it they beautiful I have a blue dragon blood looks like him to
Thanks for sharing
so how did this turn out? Any pictures of the fry
She is young. She need definitly some experiences... The best is to let the nature
I personally have to have around 100 tanks so I can keep all my African cichlids seperated,it's a lot of effort to keep everything separate but this is the way I do it .i think there is enough true fish to breed without having to have hybrids but in saying that if there for your own use or your making a new strain I don't have a problem with it if it's all kept honest.
So I bread Dragon Bloods and OBS together but The Offspring I don't see any obs does this come later the splotches.... they are still very young like an eighth of an inch maybe three-quarters
I’ve got a hybrid OB peacock male and convict cichlid and I’m tryna see if they’ll crossbreed
I got mine the same way but igot 2 males an the rrest female an he bred with a female peacock of less color an they would be peacock cichlids but if my ob breeds with the blue regal peacock then that would be different I have fottoge as well
great video. mine always the babies get eaten
Both parents are hybrids, ive seen a brood with both color configurations born together
Beautiful fish though bro I've git tge same ones
I would think most of the the fish in the wild are hybrids letsthe following happened a log or what have you tipped over keeping some fish from the same family together. Fish breed just like us. Then the fish that looked similar kept breeding. Just a thought. Great footage.
what is pure. You don't think they cross bread in the wild
No, probably not. Otherwise they wouldn't be different species.
So the male drops eggs and the female holds them and they hatch?
All fish are hybrids really! They must have evolved from something. Just sell them as hybrids
What kind of logic is that? New species aren't made by two populations hybridising; it's the opposite. Hybridisation is an undoing of evolution. Obviously not a problem in captivity but to claim this kind of thing happens on any large scale or is normal in the wild is false. If that were the case then species wouldn't exist. Species exist as a direct result of two populations _not_ breeding with each other.
Show us the results
Hey
What are you doing with the fry
Got a young one looks just like m they call m electric blues
I have the same blue hes a blue regal an he us not a hib he is a full peacock bubba
Check out this video from KG tropicals. African cichlid hybrids, love em or hate em??
i have no problems with hybrids, aslong they are labeled correctly
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the male looks like an electric blue hap.
Female is an OB peacock, which is already a hybrid.... No harm no foul in my book!
If i get a hybrid I would just separate them from the pure strains and keep hybrids with hybrids so no strains will be lost and hybrids will have their peace
Hybridization is equally as necessary as keeping lines pure. It’s the only way to create new species and it’s the only way to keep the hobby growing. It lies upon us as fishkeepers to be honest with ourselves and with whom ever we share our fish with and the same with fish farms we can only hope there is some integrity within their system and business practices. We lose fish completely when money becomes the priority and main objective and not the quality of the quality of the fish we are looking to produce. Let’s remember that dogs and cats are hybrids of their ancestors as well as the human race in general. So my point is and remains the same just be honest and truthful and your sure to find someone who will want them.
I would like to know the results - how the babies look like? What kind of colors do they have? Could you please share?
To be honest the male doesn't look to be a pure fish and as the female is an OB she most definitely is not so these fry would be a very unusual mix if the male was in fact a hybrid
Im also trying to hybrid those fish
Makes me upset that people hate hybrid fish but love their “hybrid” dogs ... i have a beautiful OB and it’s one of my favorite fish i own
Few dogs are hybrids. A few breeds have some wolf mixed in but that's not the norm. Apart from them all dogs are the same species.
What do the babies look like?
OK, thanks. I'll subscribe.
Cichlid fish Male & female indetifi help me
no money shot?
results?
You call them obs !
I do t personally care if someone makes a hybrid
Just gets annoying when i get one and i cant figure out what it is ...:/
the first 5 minutes i added my females to my tank a male started to breed with her
Jordan's Fish Room horny ass fish
An a hib there's nothing wrong with them an u have a blue regal male mating with a ob peacock there bubba so that's a cross not a full bred
hi . Male is mbenji Blue Regal Peacock and female is sunset firefish ob.
A lot of fish which some people call line bred are hybrids from the wild.Meaning they are hybrids in the wild and people get them an say their pure line bred. Fire fish is a hybrid fish.
hybrids are made in the wild which cannot be controlled and same as in a home aquaria with a variety of fish. I think its like saying two different race of people shouldnt breed.I say Let and Let be as long as deformaty is not being created
Genghis think you could be wrong not sure but john from kgtropicals has a video on this subject with hybrids exactly the same as the blue ones. Check it out vids called African cichlid hybrids, love em or hate em??
genetically, the different human races are the same species.....similarities end
Peacocks are peacocks. Not a hybrid. Hap x peacock, mbuna x peacock, mbuna x hap is hybrid.
A mix of Peacock's shouldn't be called a "Hybrid" but they should be labeled as a man made cross. Keep them and tell people what they are. Crosses are some of the best look peacocks.
Great Video.I watch my MBuna's breed all the time.I'm in the same boat,I don't know the name's of the variety's that are breeding.have some Hybrid's which are growing like crazy.But most of the fry get ate by the rest of the fish in the tank.I just put my first video on my channel with more to follow.Everyone check it out and if you like it subscribe and share.Fish On
They're not hybrids. They are of the same "kind," which is cichlids. If they were not supposed to mate with each other, they wouldn't.
The female is a calico
I would consider it a hybrid if the parents are from two different lakes. The San Diego zoo has cichlids in their giant ponds.
Call you just leave the fish to look after themselves when they are breeding with a full tank of fish in with them