I was around when truggy racing wasnt a thing yet and know the MT class pretty well. There was a small block class (under .21 engines) and a big block class (.21 engines and over). The Revo and Tamiya TNX were the top dogs in the small block MT class, while the Savage and LST tended to be top dog in the big block class, although some Revos with big block conversions did do well when they weren't broke in big block class. At some point some of the racers wanted in on the action and started mounting up MT tires and bodies to their 1/8 buggies. They did so well that the big companies added a longer chassis to the buggy and the Truggy as we know it was born. Of course, they did so well that the trucks were separated into MT and Truggy and eventually MT died off in favor of the better performing Truggy class because it took a LOT of work to get an MT to be competitive in the MT class by that point.
My first truck was a Team Associated RC10 truck.. I did ALOT of bashing with it till I found the pleasures of racing, then after that the bug had fully set in and the upgrades were a thing.. Then the inevitable happened and it destroyed the trans in my truck while doing routine maintenance and missed one single stupid washer and my racing days were co.pletely over.. And by that point my Losi buggy was down for whatever reason as well.. But MAN were those some good times entertaining BIG races for my area and even just the simple every weekend races were so much fun
Same dude, my first race truck was the original LST, I broke a lot from being new and the truck being developed into a race truck. Eventually moved to a revo until that class died. Loved the MT class. Truggy is too similar to buggy for me, liked having the different disciplines.
My first gas car was a Losi XXXNT. It was so fun I got a TMaxx and learned quickly there was a big difference. I couldnt imagine what it would cost to get the MT to handle as well as the stadium trucks.
Naw, this is just a demo as to why the erevos suck so much.. And yes I know Mark will debate it to the death which is rightfully so because of his love for them.. But unfortunately the erevo is a trailer queen
@growlingbehemoth First off, thanks for the info. I enjoy the off-road bashing. But I am interested in both, the only actual track nearby is a road course as well. Currently I am just throwing the Stampede at everything I see. But I noticed upgrade parts get expensive fast. I am kinda looking to compare to other entry level cars.
you mention the Tekno cars being fairly bulletproof and low maintenance... that's awesome and one of the reason my son and I love our Tekno cars. If 2 wheels spin free, AE.... if 4 wheels go, Tekno! You also mention RC people all having nice cars... I live rural, miles from pavement on a road that would make me feel bad about driving such a nice vehicle....lol My race transport vehicle is a beat up GMC Safari that suits where I live and is AWD which is required to get to and from my house in winter. I bought it for like 1200 bucks, and it's saved us more than that by not always buying hotels for weekend long race events.... so i feel like it's earned it's keep....lol Cheers mister!
Add anti sway stiff spring and add +1 or 2 offset wheel it help with corner I have mine few year ago it was not E-Revo 2.0 it was when they first come out with brushless edition
I feel like that rear brace being broken really took a lot away from body rigidity, I'd love to see the stock plastic replaced or the upgraded aluminum. I noticed a tremendous change in recovery when jumping when I put in the aluminum piece. Also, I removed a ton of unloaded suspension travel from my car by adding suspension travel straps in the front and rear. The car responds SO well after a big jump and recovery is way better. Granted, I've NEVER raced the E-Revo, and so none of what I just talked about could be translated to actual improvement in race behavior. From a weight perspective, I know the E-REVO is heavy and I wouldn't call the car nimble. How do the E-Buggy cars compare? Are they comparable to size/weight? I feel like the major disadvantage the e-revo has is just how much weight it needs to carry around.
to stop the body roll add nitro fuel line inside the shocks car should sit level when you pick it up will greatly improve handling, to get the right length cut line for half of the shaft or maybe less
I banana'd the aluminum brace. Made my own out of 1/4" thick 6061. My current running issue is I break the center channel cover, then it flexes so bad it bends my lipos. Just replaced the cover with an alloy one... will likely make it break the chassis in the front/rear or just rip the bolts out holding the cover in place.
You get my favorite type of rain, that it’s so warm & humid it starts to rain, rain it’s pretty rare up in my area otherwise I hate hot & humid. Congratulations on the wins 👍🏽
Never come to KY if you hate hot and humid! It rains every day here and it’s always so thick you can ride a bike and get wet in daylight from the moisture in the air! Riding of a night I get soaked like it’s raining just from fog, low clouds basically but still hot and humid!
@@V8chump sorry, just saw your post. It's the Traxxas 5498 kit-- "Sway bar kit, Revo® (front and rear) (includes thick and thin sway bars and adjustable linkage) (requires part #5411 to install rear bumper) | Traxxas" m.traxxas.com/products/parts/5498 I had to put some washers behind the rear mount, to get it to work properly with that little triangular piece that holds the rear hinge pins in place, and use longer screws to hold it in place.
Yeah Thank God I never purchased a Traxxas. They’re just not durable trucks. I’ll stick with my home made Arrma Big Rock Lowered/speed tires on 3S whipping around corners,power sliding in on wet grass & oh shit!!!! 👀 out for that !!!! ( Slam !!!!!!! ) mailbox....Ouch Ohhhhh nooooo.. 😆 Oh well. Back to the bench.. 😂 Have a great upcoming weekend guys.
You can dial out that body roll easy enough. And yeah, you would need to upgrade a few key parts to make it durable. the biggest thing to worry about are the diffs.
Vapletrichs Gne LOL... I was talking about the chick walking behind him for a sec there who threw the nah nah face once Mark was far enough from her. But the dude with the vape was rocking that sweet a$$ huge hat tho!
You know, against those truggies you could tell that it's struggling a bit, but it would have cleaned up in a field of conventional monster trucks. Too bad the MT class died off a long time ago.
I like to track my erevo for fun while waiting for my eb48 batteries to charge in between runs. Any advice on erevo suspension oil and springs would be awesome.
Don't think that's a real TRD PRO. Don't think they've ever had orange on the Pro. Doesn't have Pro skidplate or the Rigid Industries foglights. Looks like a Sport with some Pro things tossed on. Still a nice looking truck.
Byzone 06 I understand, I don’t own a Tekno but it just seems like something isn’t designed correctly if you have to replace a bearing that frequently. Do they use rubber sealed bearings in that location? Can you cover it with a rubber CVD boot or something. I’ve run a Losi truggy a whole season of racing before having to replace any bearings. Do all the Tekno models have this issue?
Dana T I usually don’t replace my bearings often and I am a Tekno team driver but for some tracks the are loose and almost sand like, it can destroy bearings but most of the tracks I race at have hard packed dirt.
I have a 2019 Toyota Tundra trd platinum but I converted it to a 6x6 I but I am regretting the package that I got it with but keep up the good work you are my favorite TH-camer
I had 2016 4x4 off road special inferno orange Tacoma. Loved that truck until some lady ate a red light while I was turning on green. Fuckin totaled my shit. Now I have a Honda crv
Spray all pivot points with graphite for locks. The carrier agent dries and leaves graphite powder on all the parts. Keeps things running smooth without gunk buildup
I used to race my 3.3 nitro revo until Truggies became a thing and before long the tracks wouldn't even allow Revos and other "monster trucks" on the track.
Would be interesting to see how the E-Revo 2.0 runs with the aluminum brace instead of the broken plastic one. That's one of the first upgrades I made on the car. It's a fun car but clearly not a racer.
Thing is, the MT class was a lot slower than the 1/8th scale truggy class. Even a fully race-prepped REVO wouldn't have been able to do well in a field of truggies, although it would do a better job than some of the other big MTs.
@@byzone0632 the mt, I just got back into the Hobby and so far Tekno is the only brand I haven't tried I have their drive shaft in a slash and it's the nicest piece on it
@@byzone0632 I have a tekno et410, is it worth buying the upgrade parts to make it a tempo et410.2. also, what power system would you recommend? thanks
DON’T CLICK MY PROFILE PICTURE I still use my ET410 and it really isn’t worth buying a whole car when you could just spend about 50 bucks or so on the part needed to make the 410 into the .2. Also for power systems I use a trinity 5.5 turn motor and a hobby wing xr10 pro but definitely go hobbywing they can’t be beat for prices and they last forever.
Honestly it really doesn't on the erevo 2.0. it's because that broken shock brace allows rear body mount to flex. Now the xmaxx, yeah body flies off on every tumble
10 minutes of talking and 3 minutes of rc car driving. 👍🏻 Not at all what I was hoping to watch. 10 minutes of driving and even less than 3 minutes of talking would be prime.
I was around when truggy racing wasnt a thing yet and know the MT class pretty well. There was a small block class (under .21 engines) and a big block class (.21 engines and over). The Revo and Tamiya TNX were the top dogs in the small block MT class, while the Savage and LST tended to be top dog in the big block class, although some Revos with big block conversions did do well when they weren't broke in big block class. At some point some of the racers wanted in on the action and started mounting up MT tires and bodies to their 1/8 buggies. They did so well that the big companies added a longer chassis to the buggy and the Truggy as we know it was born. Of course, they did so well that the trucks were separated into MT and Truggy and eventually MT died off in favor of the better performing Truggy class because it took a LOT of work to get an MT to be competitive in the MT class by that point.
Yup me too. My first hobby grade was a Tamiya Blackfoot then an RC10Champ. Iv seen some classes rise and fall over the years.
My first truck was a Team Associated RC10 truck.. I did ALOT of bashing with it till I found the pleasures of racing, then after that the bug had fully set in and the upgrades were a thing.. Then the inevitable happened and it destroyed the trans in my truck while doing routine maintenance and missed one single stupid washer and my racing days were co.pletely over.. And by that point my Losi buggy was down for whatever reason as well..
But MAN were those some good times entertaining BIG races for my area and even just the simple every weekend races were so much fun
i wish they still made the TNXs or least a E version of them. they were good truck. and handled well. I miss the old MT class days.
Same dude, my first race truck was the original LST, I broke a lot from being new and the truck being developed into a race truck. Eventually moved to a revo until that class died. Loved the MT class. Truggy is too similar to buggy for me, liked having the different disciplines.
My first gas car was a Losi XXXNT. It was so fun I got a TMaxx and learned quickly there was a big difference. I couldnt imagine what it would cost to get the MT to handle as well as the stadium trucks.
Thanks, being a newer Traxxas basher this was an interesting demo of the difference between the racers and bashers.
Naw, this is just a demo as to why the erevos suck so much.. And yes I know Mark will debate it to the death which is rightfully so because of his love for them.. But unfortunately the erevo is a trailer queen
@@brandonstone6962 +1, the erevo is in a weird spot. Isnt meant for racing, and compared to other bashers in the same scale its not even close.
@growlingbehemoth just curious what you'd suggest for bashing instead? Just starting out and al I see is the Traxxas stuff.
@growlingbehemoth First off, thanks for the info. I enjoy the off-road bashing. But I am interested in both, the only actual track nearby is a road course as well.
Currently I am just throwing the Stampede at everything I see. But I noticed upgrade parts get expensive fast. I am kinda looking to compare to other entry level cars.
What wheels/tires did he run here
you mention the Tekno cars being fairly bulletproof and low maintenance... that's awesome and one of the reason my son and I love our Tekno cars. If 2 wheels spin free, AE.... if 4 wheels go, Tekno! You also mention RC people all having nice cars... I live rural, miles from pavement on a road that would make me feel bad about driving such a nice vehicle....lol My race transport vehicle is a beat up GMC Safari that suits where I live and is AWD which is required to get to and from my house in winter. I bought it for like 1200 bucks, and it's saved us more than that by not always buying hotels for weekend long race events.... so i feel like it's earned it's keep....lol Cheers mister!
Add anti sway stiff spring and add +1 or 2 offset wheel it help with corner I have mine few year ago it was not E-Revo 2.0 it was when they first come out with brushless edition
I’ve been on a binge catching up on the videos. Thanks for the great content.
Love my 2.0, thanks for the track time BB
Congrats, glad you and the kids placed in the races!!!
I have the Proline Tundra shell done in the same corner for my Slash...its just too sharp...lol. Go Yota!!
Nice dude, wow, unexpected rain!
How do you not have more subs your vids are amazing
I drove my old erevo 2.0 at the track a few times. It actually did amazing
I feel like that rear brace being broken really took a lot away from body rigidity, I'd love to see the stock plastic replaced or the upgraded aluminum. I noticed a tremendous change in recovery when jumping when I put in the aluminum piece. Also, I removed a ton of unloaded suspension travel from my car by adding suspension travel straps in the front and rear. The car responds SO well after a big jump and recovery is way better.
Granted, I've NEVER raced the E-Revo, and so none of what I just talked about could be translated to actual improvement in race behavior.
From a weight perspective, I know the E-REVO is heavy and I wouldn't call the car nimble. How do the E-Buggy cars compare? Are they comparable to size/weight? I feel like the major disadvantage the e-revo has is just how much weight it needs to carry around.
It’s not that heavy it’s like 11ish pounds
Definitely not light either
1/8 e buggy is a lot smaller than an e Revo and much lighter.
@@blakehyslop2605
E-revo 6s compared to my 4s mt410. Its heavy.
spike 👍
I love your videos
Congratulations on your amazing weekend!
Congrats on the wins, congrats to the boys also. That looked like a fun track to run.
Lol that dude slapped other dude straight in the left butt cheek. Good stuff!
Congrats to u and the boys on the hardware!!
to stop the body roll add nitro fuel line inside the shocks car should sit level when you pick it up will greatly improve handling, to get the right length cut line for half of the shaft or maybe less
I wish we had tracks like this. I race my mini z but I like the offroad tracks because they look so much fun.
Need more xmax content as I wait for mine lol
could you do a video about how to construct rc off road track, step by step? tks
I banana'd the aluminum brace. Made my own out of 1/4" thick 6061. My current running issue is I break the center channel cover, then it flexes so bad it bends my lipos. Just replaced the cover with an alloy one... will likely make it break the chassis in the front/rear or just rip the bolts out holding the cover in place.
You get my favorite type of rain, that it’s so warm & humid it starts to rain, rain it’s pretty rare up in my area otherwise I hate hot & humid.
Congratulations on the wins 👍🏽
Never come to KY if you hate hot and humid! It rains every day here and it’s always so thick you can ride a bike and get wet in daylight from the moisture in the air! Riding of a night I get soaked like it’s raining just from fog, low clouds basically but still hot and humid!
Awesome race!
Mark, add the swaybar kit to the E-Revo. It REALLY improves handling. I'm running that and both rear chassis braces in the back.
Can you link the kit you got?
@@V8chump sorry, just saw your post. It's the Traxxas 5498 kit-- "Sway bar kit, Revo® (front and rear) (includes thick and thin sway bars and adjustable linkage) (requires part #5411 to install rear bumper) | Traxxas" m.traxxas.com/products/parts/5498
I had to put some washers behind the rear mount, to get it to work properly with that little triangular piece that holds the rear hinge pins in place, and use longer screws to hold it in place.
Enjoy your videos... Informative and interesting as well as fun. Thanks!
Yeah Thank God I never purchased a Traxxas. They’re just not durable trucks. I’ll stick with my home made Arrma Big Rock Lowered/speed tires on 3S whipping around corners,power sliding in on wet grass & oh shit!!!! 👀 out for that !!!! ( Slam !!!!!!! ) mailbox....Ouch Ohhhhh nooooo.. 😆 Oh well. Back to the bench.. 😂 Have a great upcoming weekend guys.
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Arrma all day I sold my traxxas rc cars they were weak and broke to often for even mild bashing
The maxx is the strongest rc I've seen and traxxas are good trucks they have a few weak point's but that's it I'd take a traxxas over an armma any day
PL51mustang 👍👊
Congrats on 1st place Mark 😎🏁
You can dial out that body roll easy enough. And yeah, you would need to upgrade a few key parts to make it durable. the biggest thing to worry about are the diffs.
Tune that suspention. Are those pro responce tires?
1:07... LOL love the behind the back high sign! Great vid man.
lmao it was a vape I think.
Vapletrichs Gne LOL... I was talking about the chick walking behind him for a sec there who threw the nah nah face once Mark was far enough from her. But the dude with the vape was rocking that sweet a$$ huge hat tho!
mattox designs makes a nice obvious sticker for your lipo with a huge red + and black - got it on my protek pack
Lol..RC cars r like magnet..it sure find its way to hit something even it’s only 1 inch pole..
How about a setup video for racing a 2.0 on the track go over your shocks roll center camber caster and diff fluids that would be really cool!
Nice to review erevo 2.0 on the track.
TRD PRO Taco with no Ridgid fog lights? No skid plate?
You know, against those truggies you could tell that it's struggling a bit, but it would have cleaned up in a field of conventional monster trucks. Too bad the MT class died off a long time ago.
Congrats 🎊 on your wins 👍👍👍
Would a slash 4x4 VXL be as quick ?
As the E Revo ?
I like to track my erevo for fun while waiting for my eb48 batteries to charge in between runs. Any advice on erevo suspension oil and springs would be awesome.
What are the biggest hurdles for the revo to compete? Weight and body roll? Cant that be remedied? I’d love to see you take another swing.
Do you have a Rustler?
Put a smile on my face when you showed your Tundra hahaha Way better looking than Tacoma's
GREAT JOB YOU GUYS 🤙🤙🤙. ANOTHER GREAT MSM PRODUCTION 🤘. SMASHED !!!!!!!! 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
What do you set your TSM dial too on the tqi when racing ?
Steve Slayden and his Revo Team proved that Traxxas could dominate with Revo , Taking 6 championship series
Nice effort dude. It's not like it as adjustable rc10 where it drives night and day depending on if it's dialed or not.
I think the E-Revo is heavier than those truggies, so it really has a lot of force coming down on those jumps.
Don't think that's a real TRD PRO. Don't think they've ever had orange on the Pro. Doesn't have Pro skidplate or the Rigid Industries foglights. Looks like a Sport with some Pro things tossed on. Still a nice looking truck.
@Jason Burke you’re correct, it’s not a Pro.
So when you get to the jump do you want to give it more gas than off in the air ?
What do you think of the Traxxas Stampede
Not worth the money
Congratulations ur great weekend of 1st finishes. Made it through installing servo horn n keep up great content. 👍🏾
25K FOLLOWED, congrats. AWESOME!!! I remember a few months back when you hit 5K.
Question? Why would you need to change a bearing every 3-4 races??
Dirt gets inside and grinds up the whole thing. It would really suck to have a race end early because of a bearing disintegrating.
Byzone 06 I understand, I don’t own a Tekno but it just seems like something isn’t designed correctly if you have to replace a bearing that frequently. Do they use rubber sealed bearings in that location? Can you cover it with a rubber CVD boot or something. I’ve run a Losi truggy a whole season of racing before having to replace any bearings. Do all the Tekno models have this issue?
Dana T I usually don’t replace my bearings often and I am a Tekno team driver but for some tracks the are loose and almost sand like, it can destroy bearings but most of the tracks I race at have hard packed dirt.
I run stock brace and the aluminium brace. Longer fasteners ✌
“The ball sack” HAHAHA
I wish we had tracks like this in Queens or Long Island NY
Gave an abo, I'll go through all my vids and put some support to all the great YTubers.
Thanks for the nice video!
I have a 2019 Toyota Tundra trd platinum but I converted it to a 6x6 I but I am regretting the package that I got it with but keep up the good work you are my favorite TH-camer
Does Texas have a relatively large race circuit? I live in Reno Nevada and I think we have 1 track... love watching your content!
We have 5 or 6 tracks within a couple hours from Dallas
daniel passmore what are they im in the dfw area i used to go to mikes hobby shop but havent been to a track since he closed
We have two in Reno, outdoor track at Mira Loma, and an indoor track in Panther valley. I don’t know if the indoor is open during lockdown tho.
I wonder how something like the Arrma Kraton EXB would do since they do have a racing pedigree from their Team Durango days
How you shoot these films? I would like to see your vlog setup video🙈
So I have a bone stock brushed mini e revo, is it worthy of bringing to my local track just to have aome fun?
I had 2016 4x4 off road special inferno orange Tacoma. Loved that truck until some lady ate a red light while I was turning on green. Fuckin totaled my shit. Now I have a Honda crv
Would have been a good comparison to see your winning race in this video alongside the erevo race so we could see the difference better.
Mark u can drive an RC car ! Nice
you drive with the new tekno.?
Awesome! I've always wanted to see someone race a basher, could you do a typhon 3s next time?
Question, Do you run Mip bypass or just stoke pistons?
Pablo's car is easy to spot. :)
I went drifting with the e revo in the dirt and now my rear suspension is squeaky. Tried to clean it with an air compressor but it didnt work
Clean you shocks and swing arms
Spray all pivot points with graphite for locks. The carrier agent dries and leaves graphite powder on all the parts. Keeps things running smooth without gunk buildup
I used to race my 3.3 nitro revo until Truggies became a thing and before long the tracks wouldn't even allow Revos and other "monster trucks" on the track.
Would be interesting to see how the E-Revo 2.0 runs with the aluminum brace instead of the broken plastic one. That's one of the first upgrades I made on the car. It's a fun car but clearly not a racer.
Yup, changed mine before I even drove it.
The nitro revo dominated the mt class. Just needs tuning
Thing is, the MT class was a lot slower than the 1/8th scale truggy class. Even a fully race-prepped REVO wouldn't have been able to do well in a field of truggies, although it would do a better job than some of the other big MTs.
Sorry to say but that Orange Tacoma is way nicer than the white.
Then why would they make em in white?????????
@@jrc-fabs1634 For the vanilla people lol. 😂🤣
U could run an arrma kraton on that track because it IS durable
Naaa that slap on the ass was crazy
Nobody noticed the guy backhand the dude on his left...? Lmao
I thought the e revvo was electric
It is. The revo is nitro version of it
Should I dump my Mini Maxx and get a Tekno eb410mt LOL I like real RC cars that come in pieces anyways I'd probably break some Shock Towers though
Nice name and the eb410 and the mt410 are different cars though either way teknos don't break
@@byzone0632 the mt, I just got back into the Hobby and so far Tekno is the only brand I haven't tried I have their drive shaft in a slash and it's the nicest piece on it
@@mikehawk9617 I am actually a Tekno team driver so if you have any questions i would be happy to help
@@byzone0632 I have a tekno et410, is it worth buying the upgrade parts to make it a tempo et410.2. also, what power system would you recommend?
thanks
DON’T CLICK MY PROFILE PICTURE I still use my ET410 and it really isn’t worth buying a whole car when you could just spend about 50 bucks or so on the part needed to make the 410 into the .2. Also for power systems I use a trinity 5.5 turn motor and a hobby wing xr10 pro but definitely go hobbywing they can’t be beat for prices and they last forever.
You are worrying about the rain we can't even see it also that erebo is cool
Awesome!! Track bro seriously 👍👍😎
5:55 you mean f-2shity
You can't make bobbles and win with any car...and if said car isn't ready that's even worse..but yeah .tekno is the best
i don't think that's a real TRD pro.... It would have a skid plate and the front bumper wouldn't be color matched to the body
That's a good reason why I don't like the way traxxas bodies mount now. They fall off too easy.
Honestly it really doesn't on the erevo 2.0. it's because that broken shock brace allows rear body mount to flex. Now the xmaxx, yeah body flies off on every tumble
But they can handle a skate park, but not the track...
First?
Lesgo
Buy an Arrma, you will not regret.
Why no Mask Mark? We can't even go in a shop here without them, was this shot before Covid? Nice video but we are still under quarantine here in CA
Dude you can't go saying that an erevo isn't durable
holy crap that music ruined the erevo run... I wanted to hear the motor...
Haha ofcourse it broke! Its traxxas there not race quality! Lol. There strictly bashers
10 minutes of talking and 3 minutes of rc car driving. 👍🏻 Not at all what I was hoping to watch. 10 minutes of driving and even less than 3 minutes of talking would be prime.
Would be nice if there was less talking less toyata ads less music and more of what the title says it it. Thumbs down
Still junk
It’s gay he added the music while driving it