REACTION to Meshuggah - Bleed - Tomas Haake - Drum Cam
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Man you have to do Clockworks it's unbelievable.
Yes please! I love where it sounds like it’s speeding up and slowing down.
Agreed, Clockworks is phenomenal. Has a lot more hand work in it too.
That's even more mind bending... Please, do it.
Clockworks is my Bibel.
Beat me to it
Meshuggah doesnt get enough credit they literally invented a genre of music.
"Brrt-a brrt-a brrt-a brrt-a brrt-a brrt-a brrt-a"
- Bill Burr on Meshuggah - Bleed
Never thought I'd see Bert Kreischer do reaction videos 🤘
this is bret kershner
Tomas has one hi-hat dedicated for his left foot which he uses the vast majority of the time, one hi-hat for open handed playing, and one muted hi-hat for his right hand when he needs both his feet
He's one of the only drummers who can make one song feel like you've seen a whole concert
It's not only Tomas and Dick (the bassist) that are synchronized. ALL of them are ! Fredrik/Mårten (guitars), Dick, Tomas, and even Jens (vocals) are all perfectly synchronized.
he probably doesn't know these guys are playing 8 string guitars which occupy some bass guitar frequencies
Meshuggah is the best live-act iv'e ever seen. Unbelievable...
if Vlad from Jinjer is watching this, he's probably wondering who in the hell Ivan is
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It took him 6 months to learn yo play this song.
They didn't even know if it would be ready for the album
True. Thomas had to rethink his playing style and he hates playing it. At least according the interview.
I love seeing peoples first reaction to Meshuggah, especially Tomas Haake's drumming. I saw them live for the first time back in 1998. I could never imagine they would sound just as good and tight live as they do on their albums. It was incredible.
saw them in september of 2022... going as strong as inhumanly possible.
It's mind boggling to me that they play live often and have almost no footage of ANY of them fucking up the rhythm on any instrument. These dudes are aliens. The drummer needed 6 months to learn this song THAT HE WROTE HIMSELF, yet plays it live like it's something Ringo could do.
These guys have the calmness and serenity of Northern Swedes. That might be the Vikings who were simply to lazy to go out and hit some ass.
Best technical description of how to think about drum motion mechanics I've ever encountered on TH-cam, or anywhere. Fantastic and engaging educational details.
I greatly appreciate the technical comparisons with drummers of other bands so I can get an idea of other contexts, and what patterns would sound like if they were done wrong.
Tomas is a machine, the clockworks drum cam is even more impressive
Notice that the "verses" are different each time, it's not the same polyrythmic patterns even though it may sound like that.
That part at 1:45 is always so impressive to me. He has that insanely precise Herta going on his feet in 4/4 timing, while playing a 3:2 polyrhythm with his hands.
See them live. It is overwhelming and beautiful all in one go.
"And Thomas is good with his feet you say". You have no idea. This show was after he recovered (though only partially) from a herniated disk. In an interview he says that nowadays, even if he recovered full control of his right leg, it has a tendency to cramp and move a bit on its own. So imagine : the man has to have control on his rythm AND to be on the lookout for his leg not to cramp too much and move away from the pedal.
So yeah, the man is good with his legs.
I get cramps just watching him ...
I've been looking forward to you doing Bleed! No doubt someone will comment about how long it took Tomas to learn this before he could play it live... He looks so chilled and zen, like there's no effort at all.
In interviews he said he had to completely relearn how he played drums to play this live....so ya... I'd say it took some effort.
@@Ineluki_Myonrashi He actually touched on this in the video.
Absolutely the best reaction on this drumcam! You just acknowledged the bassist and his value. And also breaking down stuff in an understandable way! Great reaction! Thanks!
Actually the best reaction video to Bleed. Thanks.
great reaction! its a fact that drummers (even extremely skilled ones) pick each other apart. I believe it was Tool's 10000days tour where they had Meshuggah join, and the main reason was to see if they actually could play their stuff live. and Danny absolutely picked up some techniques, which you can hear on Fear Inoculum. that takes nothing away from Danny as a drummer, on the contrary. its one of the reasons he's my personal favourite. picking up techniques from different drummers as well as styles. both musical styles as well as cultural.
at the same time Tomas is a massive fan of Morgan Ågren, and picks his brain a lot. so it all goes around. great recognises great.
edit: should add as it seemed you might have missed it. the actual bass drum pattern in this changes constantly throughout. he keeps moving it around.
I had to interrupt catching up on disenchantment episodes to watch this!!! Totally worth it lol!
I’m honored
@@OldSkuleNerd No, no! I'm honoured!! now you have to explain to us in a video how you have such a deep understanding of percussion, the masses want to know!
@@OldSkuleNerd if you watch these videos you may notice that we have the same patterns. It makes me wondering why
Did the exact same, up to part 3, epic 6
The hat on his left he only ever plays with his feet (you can see a lot of this in the Clockworks drum cam), the one in the middle is an open hat and the one on the right is a closed hat. That's why he's got three.
I'm always envious of people hearing "Bleed" by Meshuggah. Thanks for the great reacion, instructions, "the why's" you´re mindboggeled.
The ability to basically play 3 songs at once one separate limbs, perfectly, live, without fail, is like....on a whole different level from almost every musician out there. I've played drums for 20 years and am very capable of playing double bass and polyrhythms, and I've barely made any progress learning this song. Just figuring out the bass drum pattern has been a part-time job on its own.
Didn't know you played drums and it's cool to see someone who knows what their talking about. Keep it up my dude! I hope your channel gets much bigger, you definitely deserve it.
Ya....where did you get all your knowledge of drumming....we want more information!!
This was one of my absolutley favourite reactions I ever seen on Bleed. Thank you! Keep on reacting to Meshugga ❤️🇸🇪
Fantastic reaction once again! Bleed is among my favorite songs of all times so it was good to see you react to it finally! Also super impressed how much you know about drums. And how well you can explain stuff so someone like me who knows nothing about them understands what you mean!
Very enjoyable reaction! Perfect blend between analysis and pure listening joy!
This is a fantastic reaction video. I love how you explain things and aren't just constantly in awe like most reactions are. Those are cool too but I like your approach.
tomas has 3 high hats cause he dont wann cross hands anymore. the high hat on the left is only for footwork, 1 high hat on the right is closed and 1 is open. so he can play differet high hat sounds without using a pedal.
I don't play drums and know why there is three. Common sense.
100s of hours of playing those bass drum pedals in the studio or practice room without music just playing on a pad and trying to get faster and more powerful and endurance! He is not human! Great reaction and great song!
Wow your reaction and analysis is one of the best I've ever heard.. cheers mate !!
Saw them live, it was nothing less than an overwhelming experience. Also was the closer for them which was my god...i still don't have words for it. needless to say that night was incredible. Also you have one of the best break downs of this song. keep it up boss. I just found you and am looking forward to more
You have only scratched the surface and this is not even their best song imo. Don’t get me wrong, I love this song but they have way more rhythmic/groovy songs than this. Clockwork drum playthrough is a must and then the rest of their discography, best band. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
No one does it like Meshuggah
What songs?
they said in a new documentayr that they did this too good, and its a fucking shitshow trying to play it live after they did this song xD
You’re the first one I’ve seen to mention how on point the bass player is. He is always fucking with it
Couldn’t agree with you more. Nice review/reaction. I enjoyed this video very much. Thanks for sharing/posting. Hope to see more from you…..
Dude mentioned that other top drummers will watch Tomas Haake to learn how he does it. Damn true, Bill Burr said that as well
7:24 actually the pattern had just changed as soon as you said that lol
So, in terms of drummers, can't forget to mention Baard Kolstad (Leprous - The Sky Is Red) and Nils "Dominator" Fjellström (Dark Funeral - Vobiscum Satanas).
In case you're interested.
damn Dominator is fvcking machine one of the best extreme drummers i've heard
I will now only refer to ghost notes as “shadow taps” that’s great I love it 😂😂
Edit: you were close on him doing the same thing the whole way. When the song starts, it’s a repeating pattern across 3 sixteenth notes, but once it cuts out and it’s just guitar, it’s a repeating pattern across 5 sixteenth notes. However, the breakdowns were really nice and delivered in a very understandable way! Great vid
Your comment around 10:45 about how you would need to re learn how you play, is on point. Thomas is on record explaining he had to do that for this song. He mentioned, he switched it from just pummeling the double bass to re learn these hertas he is using here. Learning and playing this song, took him longer than the rest of the Obzen album, combined. Your takes are very insightful. Loved it, Subbing!!!
PS: Fuck that dude LOL XD
First video of yours I've seen... and I fucking love you! Lol this was such an amazing reaction! I'm not a drummer, but I learned so much! Definitely subscribing, thank you 😊
Thank you welcome to the community!!!
There is no such thing as "the best". The craft of music varies on all levels. That's what makes music so fascinating - keeping it interesting and timeless. I really get livid when people throw around "this person is the best"... It just comes off to me that they have no idea nor true understanding of music and the philosophy/theory behind it. I truly do enjoy the masters of the craft however. Tomas Haake is without a doubt one of those people; a master of his craft. He's a Polyrhythm Time Wizard.
My favorite guitar player is Chuck Schuldiner. His guitar playing/writing/composing to me is story telling and philosophy for the soul. He was a master of his craft also. His sound was very much him and unique. You hear his music - you met the guy without actually meeting him. It's a wonderful thing. His music to me will forever be timeless and will age like fine wine; it has and continues to do so. Just as a bonus mention.
You should give Gus Drax and Mike Le Rossetti a look if you haven't yet.
If you like the drum cams I'd recommend 66Samus's play through of Devin Townsend's "Hear Me", I reckon you'd have a lot of fun with what he does in that. Also Aric Improta's "Copper Wasp" play through for some nuts experimental playing and technique.
It is really funny to see drummers and drumm teachers react to this. "Where is one where is one??" or my favorite "One is a lie in that section"
Glad your channel popped up in my feed. New sub🤘..... Tomas is a beast 🔥
Interestingly, the part where you said he was doing the same thing, he had actually changed the rhythm on the kick from the previous first verse. Got to love the subtleties.
Yeah, amazing bass players. All three of them.
Nice vid. I like your thoughts.
The 3 hi-hats are easy: N1: the regular one which he controls with his foot. N2: is opened at all times. N3: closed at all times. N2 and N3 are needed when his feet are busy with the crazy pedal work.
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but Tomas had a spinal injury and surgery. That's the basis of the kit. Ergonomics. It's why the tom's are out to the side instead of angling beside and behind him. Cymbals are stacked in front. Everything is economy of movement and efficiency. He rarely twists, sits head on, back rest on the throne, and everything is within reach.
I have significant difficulty playing drums and guitar now because of my own physical disabilities, so my stuff is arranged in a similar way. My hi hat is positioned where a small tom would be, cymbals lower etc...
It's about fitting the kit to the player.
Virgil Donati is a big advocate of ergonomics, setting things where they are in your range of motion and constantly changes the kit to fit.
Ergonomics gets really important as you get older... You can muscle through younger, but older it gets to techniques and set-up.
I didn't know he had spinal surgery, I've been through 3 spinal surgeries myself and it's difficult to even play bass and guitar standing up now.
I love that you needed to pause for an existential crisis about the fact Thomas is an incomprehensable android only one minute forty-five seconds into an eight minute song.
just forthat Im, gonna stop it at one minute 25 seconds and say "Mr Wolfin said I need to stop earlier"
@@OldSkuleNerd*Ms, but I was being serious, no sarcasm. I loved that and found it really funny.
One of the hihats is always open, and one is always closed, so he can get those sounds while doing double kick patterns
Meshuggah's been my no 1 band since around 2002. They're all about rhythms and grooves. Clockworks drum playthrough vid is pretty cool (the only instance I've seen Thomas show he's actually human and not machine) and if you're into high budget music videos, be sure to check out the official one for New Millennium Cyanide Christ.
"high budget".
-laughs in red pen-
rational gaze
Drum cam for Clockworks 👏👏
Clockworks has drum cam, give that a go for another mind blast 🖖.
I know you already did winter sun, but would love for you to do a video of the drumcam of sons of winter and stars. Loved this reaction
Bleed is just the introduction to Tomas Haake's thesis, Clockworks is his master.
He is the definition of a drum god!!!
I remember Tomas talking about the album and he said it took him as long or longer to learn this song as it did the rest of the track in the album combined. They were worried that he wouldn't be able to do it in time for the release.
Bro, you NEED to do Clockworks by Meshuggah and The Art Of Dying by Gojira.
A guitarist here, Fredrik and Marten also hit all of the kicks, not just Dick (cool reaction, I love watching drummers and even more so when a drummer is explaining some of the stuff I don't understand)
You should check out Apocalypse Orchestra-garden of Earthly Delights. Great song by a great band
Another great reaction as always, a good drum video to react to is of Alex Bent from Trivium playing the song Beyond Oblivion he did a play through of it on his TH-cam channel
Thanks 👍😘🇸🇪
16:55 non musicians usually look over this part. However in my opinion. It's the most technically difficult part of the song. Tomas is a mad man
I hope whatever happens that band will be allways together.
Yes, the BASS PLAYER is a Badass!!!
Polyrythmic drumming is amazing. Especially when the whole band can gel with it precisely.
Their new album dropping soon has a single out called The Abysmal Eye. His drumming is unreal on that track too. Bleed is a cool track and you can appreciate the musicianship on it but Demiurge is Shuggahs best track IMHO just for headbanging reasons lol..
didn't realize you were so into drumming. Great reaction, maybe check out Baard's playthrough of "The Sky Is Red" by Leprous
It took Tomas more time to learn this track than the rest of the album.
That's how difficult this song is.
Yeah, Bleed is awesome and all, but you have to do Clockworks. From a drumming standpoint much more varied and complex, even for Tomas. Also, note how in every Meshuggah song, Tomas’ kick hits accurately synchronize with every guitar stroke/chug/change.
Bleed got me in, Clockworks blew my mind.
Baard Kolstad's drum playing is also mesmerizing to watch even for the people who know little about drumming, let alone professionals. Check out his "The Sky s Red" playthrough
Saying that a singer or musician is "the best in the world" is immature and narrowminded if you ask me. It's not a competition people. Just enjoy the talent that is out there!!
It is a great time to be alive with musicianship being so alive!!!!
6:30 Thank you
great reaction and awesome anaylsis of how he drums, you need to listen to some Crystal lake that drummer is like a machine gun, tunes like Aeon, Into the great beyond and Apollo are a good place to start
shorter speach before Reaction and will be perfect
The guitars are with the kick the whole song too
You should react to Luke Holland- tendinitis, his drum playthrough
I guess you need three hi hats if you want to play either open or closed with your right hand, because usually the hats on the right are just mounted on a metal frame and you don't have a pedal to open or close them. So what I see here is he has his regular hi hat on his left, an open one on the center right and a tightly closed one on his far right. Never seen anything quite like this but it makes sense I guess
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What a wonderful day.
HELLO SIR.
Enjoyed your opening monologue. You gotta remember the amount of teenagers on here who have yet to realise that not everyone shares their opinions. Glad you called it out.
As though no one older than nineteen would ever do that.
Why 3 Hihats: He can't use his feet for the hihats as he uses them on the bass drums. So, one open on each side, then one permanently closed on the right for those tight hits/grooves.
Also Thomas' pedals don't use chains or bands to activate, but a solid metal link: Trick Pro 1-V
It is not just the bass player the entire band is the rhythm section.
you must know about panzerballett's "SOS" or "Who the Jack Is Migger"
Sir! That is one of the best reactions to this video of Mr. Haake I've seen on youtube. Much respect, sir🤘I should mention that he uses triggers on Bleed. He is human after all.
I just wanted to share with you my favorite drummer OAT. The GOAT himself Vinnie Paul.
It took Thomas like 2 years to learn how to flip his rhythm for this song. Crazy
Ya know, at about 5 minutes into this video I was really unsure what we were about to watch. Was it a drumcam? Would it be Thomas from Meshuggah, doing Bleed? Who could know, based on what was being said in the video? Good thing I took a look at the name of the clip, so I could know for sure.
He has 3 because he doesn't play cross handed at all so to have the open hh sound and the closed hh sound requires 3 and his left hh he pumps with his foot only
Why have three hihats? For convenience. I keep a second pair of closed hihat tucked under my ride for convenience. Closed only. My left foot is on my main hats. I’m hoping to find a good sounding small closed hat or stack for the middle between my toms
any time we say "why" in regards to Tomas Haake...... the answer is "cause he can" lol
HE has 3 hi hats because the double kicks are hard to play when youre doing a cross body when youre using the left hi hat and you still need to step on it to open and close it but on the right side he already has open and close hi hats ready
He said when he was learning this song, he plays it completely opposite of how he plays everything else. Were everything else he leans into the pedals on this he has to lean backwards and barely hit the pedals with his feet. It's the reason the rest of the album took him 6 months to learn every song but this song took him another 6 months to learn by itself.
Hello, Dig your stuff! I'm a drummer! I don't play much anymore! I put Thomas Haake with the top 10 of all time in my opinion! But I know BONZO !! could've done this technique with one foot on a single kick drum!!!
You're right about the bassist. But apart from the lead parts both guitarists and also locking in on the kick parts for the whole track.
Hi mate .good reaction...have you done Darkside/drummer from mgla...exercises in futility ..he's unbelievable
He is keeping a steady count on his front hi hat… what are you talking about? A steady 4 count.
African beat... put an edge to it.
Just a thought... could they (bass and drum) be using a gate with the kick drum as a trigger?
19:00 I subscribed !