Old Composer REACTS to Meshuggah BLEED | Tomas Haake Drum Cam
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"The drum goes like... BRRTA BRRTA BRRTA BRRTA BRRTA..."
‐Bill Burr
5:35
The fact that Bill actually gets the rhythm right with his mouth was impressive lol
@@void870 it’s just hertas though, pretty basic if you play drums
@@void870 Yeah, its pretty easy actually if you have any rhythmic sense
he wasn’t wrong
>hits play
>immediately goes into djent trance
yeah seems about right
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Holy shit it's popcorn
Looks to me like he's counting the time signature
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 shut up
>that feel when greentext on youtube
Its almost impossible to believe how technically precise this band is.
Fucking. machines.
did you ever hear the drummer from black metal band belphegor live? he is a machine...or darkside from mgla, he is the technically awesome
For real!!
@@mortaryon9760 The drummer from Sikth (Dan Loord) was an absolute killer too. Made insanely technical shit look like he could do it one handed
Correct! I am a clasiscal pianist and I have never heard something this precise in the metal world.
The reason for the no-shoes thing, from a drummer.
When you're playing this fast, the weight of your shoes matters. Every gram of extra weight on your feet is more work your muscles have to do to keep it precise, and when you're doing this for 30, 60, 90 minutes, that can mean the difference in endurance between doing an encore and not doing an encore, or even finishing the set. And then once you're used to that, as a pro like Tomas is, it just becomes easier to play without them.
To put it another way - if you're training for a marathon, you might put on weighted anklets to help your endurance in the lead-up. But when you go to do the actual race, you take them off to get your maximum endurance potential. Same deal here - he's basically running a marathon with those bass drums!
Hey Joshua - Thanks you so much for that explanation. I kind thought it might have had to do with friction of some sort but your comment clears it all up - thank you!
I need the arch support I have flat feet
Then on the other end you have Gene Hoglan who somehow plays in massive boots.
Try doing this with steel cap shoes. It hurts.
@@UrinationNation with ankle weights at the beginning of the set that he takes off towards the end to unlock his true potential.
My legs herta just listening.
Hahahahahahertaherta
Tomas Herta, I mean Haake, can slam a revolving door.
Ba Dum Tsh!
i appreciate this lmao
LOL
Didn't see anyone mention the fact that it took Tomas 6 months just to learn this song versus 6 months for the rest of the album. He's on record saying that he had to change his drumming style to learn to play this properly
And that this song almost didn't make the album because of that!
W o w
Wooowww, and these dudes are playing this LIVE! What beasts
Also, Tomas asked Gene Hoglan if he could play the song on the record, and Gene declined. This pushed Tomas to do it himself.
@@Salomon_G really? Never knew that. I love Gene; he's literally a gentle giant
This song inspired me to never touch drum sticks again.
That is very sad. When i heard this, i said, IM GONNA LEARN IT. You just need to start understanding it. When that happens, it will be MUCH MUCH easier
@@skipernipper7773 I can understand and comprehend /replicate the first rhythm, but when it transitions into the next... my brain turns into mush. Especially when the kick rhythm transitions back and forth in the same bar.
@@blakefloyd5822 Separate it into groups. One part is 7/8, 7/8, 5/8, 3/8, 5/8 with first note being 2 times 32nd notes instead of single 16th,like the rest. It is all variations on 7/8, 5/8, 3/8 and some other stuff
😂😂😂😂
See, the sticks I can keep up with. However, I do feel a strong urge to cut off both of my feet.
For what it's worth, this song is supposed to represent someone dying from an aneurysm. That context makes the song structure even more fascinating.
It really is. In my opinion Meshuggah are more profound musically and philosophically than Tool, but I would never want to live without either
@@TheEndofThis I don't get what the point is in comparing them on such goofy terms.
Nobody:
You: iN mY oPiNiOn tHeYrE mOrE pRoFoUnD mUsIcAlLy aNd pHiLoSoPhIcAlLy tHaN tOoL
@@Trepanation21 cool
@@Trepanation21 Wow that was an epic meme dude. You really hit him with the "Nobody:"
Truly a roast of the ages, well done.
@@Trepanation21 sad.
What blows me away is Tomas was recovering from an ankle injury and he called this performance sloppy
I hear it, it's the 4,660 ghost note, it was .0009 m/a off
I thought it was recovering from some type of back surgery
@@ihatestupidpeople2424 Yeah i think he had a broken disc.
@@Bathtubcrocodile He said in an interview that something happened with his knee? and he had a hard time keeping left to right stability with his foot, that caused his foot to continually fall off the pedal.
Imagine being such a god on drums that only you noticed your microfuckup
Your face trying to figure out what time signature the song is in is the same as when I'm doing my physics exam.
It is in 4/4 tho
@@suushii90 That's what makes it genius.
@@henrikswanstrom9218 not really tho. I love Meshuggah but it's just hertas over 4/4. Nothing special. Just fast af
@@gabejbn You can play complex rhythms over 4/4. Rhythm patterns changing going over meters and then going back to after few cycles etc. Thonas hands seem to keep regular 4/4 beat the whole time, but the kick patterns keep changing throughout the the song. Not gonna go deep in to that since I haven't listened it so carefully or tried to analalyze what's happening other than the kick patterns keep changing.
@@gabejbn here we have a man who's never heard of polyrhythm lmao, you need to watch some deep dive videos on these rhythms. It's more than just fast 4/4.
When he reached ghost notes he got me. Dude’s actually digesting Bleed. Great reaction vid.
I use ghost notes to keep steadier time on obviously slower and less technical parts than this, I wonder if he's doing that but at lightspeed.
Ghost notes help me with time too!
Yeah he does a great job breaking these bands down and really knows his stuff. You can tell he loves what he does too. He also does a great job breaking down TOOL and Danny's playing too.
I just got the part and fist pumped. Awesome.
I hope once the digestion is complete, it wont damage Geebz ' symphonic organs too much, could get messy!!
@@lxxSwmp lol
I am a professional drummer and speaking from experience, his ghost notes are immaculately placed and he set the bar for drummers in general. Just sick stuff.
I have seen drummers covering this song here on the Tube, and none of them play the ghost notes, just straight hits on the snare. And it really makes this masterpiece stale and bland.
I heard someone else say those ghost notes are mostly for himself, and it helps him hit his groove more than add to the music.
@@MrHrannsi you're saying the absence of the notes that this guy says he can see but can't hear would make this stale and bland? All right then.
@@brewtalityk no he's saying everyone else is playing them like regular notes
@@mhilton19 Yeah you can square ghosts away as drummer tactics for keeping time. Also pedal hat etc. He would probably say that himself tbh. However, he's playing to a click, so... let's be honest, there is an art to accents and he is a consummate wizard with them
As a drummer of 33 years experience, I can honestly say that this is the most difficult song I have ever learned, it got to the point where I had to leave it alone for a few months, the timing was so hard to nail, but once I had learned it ,well it was certainly an accomplishment.
Honestly, as I drummer myself, sounds like shit.
Thrashing, screaming and banging.
As another drummer, congrats on learning it! Maybe in another 15 years I'll be able to play it too :D
@@MetaFootballTV stick to pop drumming
@@Nightshade1881 Are you an expert recommending pop?
@@MetaFootballTV nah but
You should know all the good stuff
Just saying
You can’t handle a lil metal
Why even comment ?🤔
stick to what you know buddy.
CLOCKWORKS drum cam is a must too!
Yes.
Love that song.
Yes
Yes absolutely th-cam.com/video/axGn6qeJHcM/w-d-xo.html
100%
drummers - "blast beats are difficult"
Tomas Haake - "hold my skull full of mead"
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What are these triggers you speak of?
He didn't play any blast beats tho
hahahahahaahh
@@theax40 Yea he never plays blast beats
20 year old me would have never listened to this. The 50 year old me can’t get enough. I’m a music lover and can’t play any instruments. You’re explanations of what and why are perfect for me. Thank you for doing one of my favorite songs.
Love that 20 to 50 shift!! AWWWRIGHT!!
"I don't know if they are actually bending the string..."
Yeah, they are bending the strings! TO THEIR WILL!
to us strong bends are like "WOAAA" in this. to meshuggah, it's so the guitarists and bass player don't fall asleep LOL
@@hughneutron5303 I don't know, it'd be tough to fall asleep fall asleep while having to keep their picking hands going, doing all the 16th/32nd notes tightly locked in with the kick drum.
@@hughneutron5303 loool you make me spit my food mate 🤣
What's awesome is the main riff is played on the 6th string of the guitar. For the bend they switch strings to the 7th string for the bend.
if you've never heard Bill Burr talk about this song and Meshuggah, check it out, it's hilarious.
link?
@@lopolik you could literally just search "bill burr meshuggah" but here ya go: th-cam.com/video/HS9_p7zNASQ/w-d-xo.html
@@massgrave8x thank you!
Add the link to the comment and ge's more likely to click on it
@@massgrave8x That's pretty cool, I didn't know Bill Burr likes Glam Metal, he mentioned Poison and Mötley Crüe
, I like that music too, but I'd have to say I prefer W.A.S.P. from that era and later, because they had that ''Hair Metal'' phase only for like 3 years, and then they evolved and made great music for many years, even till now the music is still great heavy metal.
I urge EVERYONE to see Meshuggah live if you get the chance. It is Mesmerising and beautiful and the most powerful thing you will witness on a stage!
They are somehow better and tighter live than in record. It’s unbelievable.
Got my tickets for March 😀
I've seen them back in the day, such power and so heavy. Was really amazing ..And the last track was Future Breed Machine 👌🤘
It is amazing but can be very awkward to headbang to sometimes, lol
It felt like meditation
6 minutes in and I'm subscribed. Finally a reaction channel with some substance.
Thank you Andrew - hope you enjoy the rest of the content :)
This band has the best lights too, watching the lighting guy 'play' the lights is up there with the rest of the band. Seeing them live is like aliens have arrived.
Old lights guy was Tomas' cousin
the way they flicker with the drum hits was so good. i know that's kinda "lighting 101" but it's done so remarkably well here.
I saw Meshuggah open for Tool, and Tomas came back out and played percussion with Tool on one song. So good.
Yeah saw him jam with Tool at the Baton Rouge show.
@@bradsullivan2298 I was there too, it was my first concert fucking epic
Tomas and Danny “Triad” drum off!💥!🔥! Meshuggah melted my brain that evening in 02’ as I slowly regained my collective unconscious back with the help from TOOL! 5 drops of straight liquid will do that to you🤤
As an OGT fan & only a fan of Meshuggah for about a year I am very jealous! Saw Tool March 8th 2022 & Maynard’s voice sounded rested & well. I guess they always put on an extra good show in Grand Rapids Michigan cause Maynard spent years of his childhood nearby Sparta Michigan. Would love to see Meshuggah live next time they come to Michigan.
I'm a drummer and I learned to play a couple of their songs. This band is on another level, experts at their instruments. They change time signature like the wind changes direction.
only meshuggah song i can "play" is new millenium cyanide christ, probably on of their easiest ones
actually, they almost never change time signature. most of their songs (bleed for example) are in 4/4
@@boerdddd Yes and No - one of my Favourite things about Thomas' playing is that he has such a strong Pulse in his playing and it's often pulsed in 4/4 - however, often the Riff isn't in 4/4 but it will be in multiples that are divisble by 4/4.
For example Corridor of Chameleons - I believe the intro riff is in 3/4 - and is played 4 times - so you get a very strong 4/4 pulse, with the pulse shifting in relation to the Riff, but resolving every 4 Bars. There's some crazier songs where the Riff is in 23/16, with the same principle - if you tab the riff out, you'll see it's definitely not 4/4 - but thanks to the wonders of maths, the Drum riff will be played in 4/4 (or at least with Thomas' hands)
Weird thing is that they make all that changing work. Its awesome to listen to.
@@MajesticDemonLord I mean, the thing about Haake is that he plays 4/4 but he has an uncanny ability to shift the downbeat around. That makes it feel like it's in another signature, but it's still 4/4.
In fairness "bitchen" saw a brief resurgence in the 90's.
Bitchin has never fallen out of style.
@@AngryJT hmmm lol
Bart Simpson said it so it had to have been popular.
My man’s having an existential crisis listening to this 😂
Trying to solve an unsolvable equation lol
😂😂
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😂👋
If you enjoyed this I recommend a candidate for their most impressive song, Clockworks. They recorded this album, "The Violent Sleep of Reason" live, to give it a more wild feel. There's a drum cam of Tomas playing this song. Do check it out, you won't regret it!
YES!
Maybe I'm just hanging out with the wrong crowds, but I swear I was going crazy for thinking Clockworks and just The Violent Sleep of Reason is their best work to date
Second that! Please do clockworks!
I did a drum cover of that tune. Took me a stack of attempts before I was mostly happy with a take. It’s also one thing to get it right playing to the song but another to have every band member nail it together.
Saw them in 2016. Their light show makes it such an oppressive and hypnotic experience. World class musicians!
Liking the name Zealot...hehehehehehehehehehehe
I have watched a ton of REACTS!!!?!! videos of heavy bands. Yours is by far the most thoughtful analysis upon a first listen than I have seen yet. You're picking out things I didn't hear until the umpteenth listen, you articulate what you heard concisely and explain what's happening in accessible detail for the lay listener. I mean, you're really listening and thinking, not just REACTING???? It's wonderful, and I hope you continue in that vein regardless of what you choose to analyze. -OCL
Wow, thanks!
@@KeyOfGeebz Yeah, man. Yours is a rare talent on this platform. Just, bravo.
I think a little of it has to do with the 'composer' part. So to have the understanding over a career how everything molds together getting a sense of all the bits that have to be proper to create this symphony.
Geebz keeps remarking that he’s keeping his reaction watered down, but I wouldn’t mind analyzing it even further. It’s interesting to hear what is actually going through a composers/musicians brain when they’re listening to something!!
Fully agree. I actually mostly dislike 'react videos', but, this is how they should be done. I know this song focuses mostly on what Tomas Haake is doing, but that reaction at the start of the guitar solo is pure joy.
Meshuggah; the greatest band to have ever existed. Been my favourite band for nearly 30 years, and every song could be dissected in an exciting and excitable way! 🙂SO much going on, on so many levels. Patterns that no other band could do, and to pull off their live shows with the precision they do, with the lights and everything as well... They are an actual wonder of the world.
Fan of the channel from seeing this as the first video on it. Great stuff.
I imagine, after the concert, they just carry the drummer to the tour bus under an IV.
I think Tomas uses the ghost notes here to help him stay "in the pocket". Lots of drummers do that to help keep the groove even though they know that they can't be heard in the mix.
The drummer in the band I used to play with told me quite often that ghost notes were meant to be felt rather than heard, it took me years to realize just how far ahead of the rest of us he was in skill because he was such a fucking moron in everything else
I was gonna say it looks like he's imitating the kick rhythm with those ghost notes. I'm not a drummer so have no real idea, but that's kinda what it looked like...
Yeah that's a good point, you gotta keep that other hand moving sometimes.
As a metal head and huge Meshuggah fan I have to give you serious respect for your analysis. Absolutely nailed it. Often metal is misunderstood but you absolutely get it.
I love that you caught onto the HUGE and Important rhythmic part played by the vocalist here. It's something a lot of people miss when they are getting into the heavier of the metal bands. Vocalists are like the lead drummer.
Time to get my notebook and write down something wise I heard today
Me: How many calories do you consume on concert days?
Thomas Haake: Yes.
MORE MESHUGGAHHHHHH!
"Future breed machine"
"Break those bones whose sinew gives them motion"
"Rational Gaze"
"Demons name is surveillance"
🤘🤘🤘
Catch Thirty Three - Sum
Demon is so fucking ace. As Pravus
Closed Eye Visuals!
let's not forget "lethargica"
Clockworks
Headbanging at a Meshuggah gig is like the hardest thing I’ve ever done
Follow the cymbal like the band does. 1,2,3,4.
You’ve clearly never been to a Dillinger Escape Plan gig 😅
Ive seen them live with tool. Yes, even their necks give out and just hang. Lol
I should clarify, if we are talking about the band, they nod their heads on the 1, and the 3. It's easy. They often tap their left heel to 1234 while doing that. You could do it on the 2 and 4 if you want, or 1234. You don't bang your head to the guitar riffs, they are in odd time signatures. The cymbals however, usually are 4/4.
Try carbomb
Meshuggah is one of the best bands in history.
Do the song "I". It's a short, easy listen at 21 minutes long-
Haha
"if anybody is not synched it sounds like sneakers in a drier" that's the phrase i used back in my engineering days.
Probably 15 years ago I was reading an interview in Revolver Magazine with one of the guitarists from Meshuggah and they were asked about their writing process. Whichever guitarist it was responded, "First we smoke the blunt, then we write the music."
lol thats especially funny if you keep their Swedish accent in mind!
That had to have been Marten that said that. And I'm very certain he was only speaking for himself. The band generally doesn't write together in the first place.
That mellow break in the middle is so cool. On the album you can't hear a count-in so it really does surprise you when the band kicks back in. First time I heard this song that part genuinely startled me. Like a good scare in a horror movie.
Meshuggah are absolute masters of rhythmic displacement. You'll notice that the main beat turns around on a 4 count. You can count 1-2-3-4 and it comes back together. But the riffs themselves are usually in an odd time signature. So the rhythm of the guitars and accented by the bass drums turn around in 5 or 7 or whatever it may be, meaning that the two rhythms are criss crossing over one another and don't combine for a long time. If the guitar riff is in 7, then it doesn't meet back up with the main 4 beat for a full 28 counts. You'll also notice that the secondary riff changes at every section of the song, and sometimes within each phrase of said section. It is extremely complex and is akin to musical quantum trigonometry. Is that even a thing? I don't know, but you get my point. They take poly-meters within a song to much more extreme heights and it's just incredible to see. Especially from Thomas, who is handling the 4/4 beat with hi hat and snare and the secondary rhythm with his bass drum, while also accenting it with cymbal hits and backbeat hits on his snare. The limb independence and coordination needed for that is unfathomable (this coming from an experienced prog metal drummer). Just an insane display of human capabilities. Beautiful!
Don't forget the cadence of the vocalist. It's also part of it which adds more complications to keeping time as a listener.
there is a video explaining the maths behind the drum/rhythm pattern of Bleed. Once you see it it makes sense, but without seeing it you'll need a degree or two :D Basically it doubles in every section in lenght, and the whole formula can be built up from the hertha + 1 or 2 notes
If you want to hear Tomas Haake's ghost notes, you should do a video for their song "Clockworks". There is an awesome drumcam vid (from their recording of the album, which was recorded in live conditions FYI).
Meshuggah - Soul Burn
Meshuggah - Future Breed Machine
Must do those please!
The thing that kills me, is the fact that he looks like he's just chillin'.
Seeing them live for a full show in real life is quite the experience. Its quite tranquilizing after a while
The way he just nails that crash symbol so slowly and clearly while his feet are almost too fast to even hear is so powerful. He's got a real great connection with that lead guitarist, they literally didn't miss a single note together.
If you're bored look up Meshuggah's lighting guy on youtube. There's no click so he has to manually trigger scenes and it's something else.
That's NUTS!!!
I hear he’s related to Isaac Newton; it’s the only thing that makes sense.
Yup, he's one of the high in demand-guys over here. When he's not out on one of Meshuggah's headline tours he is usually taking on projects like rigging up major e-Sport events like Dreamhack and stuff
@@jimbodavis1944 Plot twist: He is Isaac Newton
This is incorrect. They have been playing to the click since 2012-ish, maybe 2014. It's all programmed now. But before it was really done manually, every single light was triggered by him by hand.
During that atmospheric break Thomas actually changed to a different pair of socks
Woah you just reminded me that I had a conversation with Haakes wife about his drumming socks in the comments somewhere. All I remember is that there’s 3 pairs of those black and white ones in existence and he has them all.
@@tee4222 That is actually insane and very awesome!!
@@slayde7740 I’m trying to find the video but not having luck.. yet. I’ve probably seen every video of his, but in this particular one, she was in there answering everyone’s questions and posted dozens of times. It was years ago but I’m gonna keep trying to find it. I’ll come back with the link if I find it.
@@tee4222 It's this one.
th-cam.com/video/JkTD5JSYOJs/w-d-xo.html
@@tee4222 the actress from orange is the new black?
I just love watching your emotions as the music reverberates to your expressions. Your positive attitude and humility are equally awesome and inspiring. Thank you for the engaging commentary and the great work that you do. You are bitchin'!
This has to be one of the hardest songs to play. They sound so tight shit's crazy.
An interesting thing about them: Everything is depending on a midi signal. So they are "hard coded" :D The guitarists don't have any pedals to control, one midi signal switches all their gear, pans them, turn effects on/off etc. It is also recorded, as it's full digital, they don't use any cabs or mics. They get it to their ear monitors too, so they sound the same every night, and don't depend much on the gear of the venue. The midi track is also sent to Thomas so he does play to a "click", it just changes even mid song if necessary. It is extremely difficult to do, especially on this level.
Frederik Got some shit on the floor without a doubt, he does not play the same solo twice, or atleast not often
Many bands do this but yeah I agree that it's very difficult with this kind of music and they're amazing musicians.
@Some Kind of Master Haha I've seen that video too I guess. It's like he's part of the band lol
I don't get what you're saying. You're saying they are a performing fronting band? They've clearly got microphones for the drummer, microphone for the vocalist. In their live 2019 show they are playing with cables too.
I think you're confusing what having a midi-controlled rig means though. Cause they've been heavy users of Axe-FX and been using digital effects for their guitar, but still playing every note, making every sound on real guitars, and playing shows.
Having automated scenes on an amp controlled through midi is one thing, but performing a live show by pretending to hit guitars which are not connected is a totally different thing.
@@slimefudge pretty sure he's not saying that. He's saying that they are very consistent and super tight.
You should check out The Woven Web by Animals as Leaders, you'd dig that.
Yess this ^^^
YES!
important
Yes please
The slap part...gets me every time
Aaaand subscribed. As a studio musician I've come to appreciate everything and a serious cat like this guy treating this type of music with the respect it deserves won me over immediately great job dude. And this band is just outrageously precise it's inspiring when people take this much pride in their craft. Love Meshuggah it should be called Jazz core LOL
God, I love your channel so much. It's so validating for all of my favorite parts of these songs to get picked up by you as well. I laugh every time because it's just so much joy to see someone share that moment of "omg I can't believe they did that" or "wow that was really killer". This channel is a gem.
Do more Meshuggah, bleed is the tip of the iceberg
It’s refreshing to see someone who really knows what they’re talking about react and explain incredible musicians and bands like Meshuggah
Watching them play this live standing front and centre of the mosh pit was one of my favourite live music experiences ever
THANK YOU for noticing the ghost notes on the snare!! That's huge! This band is FACTUALLY one of the greatest to ever assemble and your review of this song is the example of why that is a fact. Loved the trance you went into at the beginning too when you hit play LOL
Bruh... SO sick!! That's dedication, meticulous practice (on his own & w/the band), & a ton of natural ability = TALENT! By all members of Meshuggah. Using odd time signatures, screaming tempos, polyrhythmic layers everywhere & insanely precise playing. Mind blown 🤯. Glad your channel came up on my recommended, this is my first video of yours but I've subbed & am diving into your back catalog. Its great listening to a knowledgeable guy thats also humble, has a sense of humor and is likeable. Great content bossman 🤟😎👍
One of the most precise bands in history. Gig after gig, show after show. Absolute Mastery.
I appreciate how you don’t judge the content how most would. You really hear more than most. This is intense. You handled this one nicely. You’ve taken on some crazy music in a short amount of time. Thank you.
I love this guy he appreciates all kind of music and gives everything ago keep it up man
I was waiting for this.......enjoy!
rational gaze is a must
you know what, bill burr talking about meshuggah is a must watch/listen
that bit by burr should be a must when reacting to meshugah, bill burr brr burr brrr burrrr (the sound he makes emulating the bass drums hits)
@derp derpin well, but Bill does or did drums because he knows his stuff.
Good ol billy rednuts. Glad to see him in this comments section.
Pronunciation: Hawk-eh. I’ve been studying the drums to this song for a bit. There are at least seven different variations to learn in this song. The patterns are evolving all over the place, yet some patterns repeat and others don’t, so it’s all deliberate to an insanely precise level. The footwork is predicated on the herta, which uses 16th note triplets with offset eighth notes, but it’s polyrhythmic with the hands, which are phrased in 4/4 throughout the song, which means the snare is landing in three different places before resolving again on the same kick beat - despite the patterns changing as the snare remains constant, except when he goes into double-time based on the 2:3 polyrhythm (two snares for every three crashes). The ability to follow this arrangement, keep the “ones,” stay in tempo, and TRANSITION into the different parts - let alone throw in the dynamics (ghost notes) - is impossible to appreciate fully until trying to play even 30 seconds of one part. I can’t emphasize how daunting of a song this would be to play. I can play the intro and first verse, but then the patterns start to change, which is before two minutes of the song. It’s unreal they can play this live at the flawless level they do. These guys are at the top of the top tier in music.
Was so lucky to meet the band twice. Unbelievably awesome and humble lads. First time I met them, some arse hole parked in front of the gates at nottingham rock city. My buddy Toe, said to to Tomas, 'Youre a big guy, cmon and well move it' To this day its one of my best memories. Watching my good friend and tomas haake lifting a ford fiesta at the rear axils and rotating it 45 degrees was so surreal. The bouncers came and were like, what the fuck are you doing? shrugs everywhere lol
A great reaction and explanation as of why I've loved and always followed them. A truly magnificent beast to see live.
Thomas “Hawkee”. The rudiment he is playing with his feet is called “Herta”. It is hard enough to play it properly with your hands. Thomas Haake plays a two hour concert like this. He definitely earns his paycheck. Considering how technical and powerful he is, he is in the top three drummers in the world.
Also, the lights are programmed to the beat - crazy.
It sounds crazy but there’s a guy that “play” the lights on live shows
@@DPernici it's Haake's cousin if I remember correctly. I was standing on a balcony right above him at one of their concerts. It was almost as impressive to watch him trigger the lights, as it was to see the band. Incredible light work :-)
"Hawkee" is actually incorrect pronounciation. Check my original comment. Basically it is pronounced with a long "ah" sound like in "god" and a short "eh" sound like in "get".
"Bleed" is like the "Giant Steps" of metal.
This
Nope. Pantera paved the way for these guys, but they're amazing.
What a great reaction/breakdown, thank you (i saw it when you just released it, but came back to hear it again). Great stuff .
I’ve seen these guys 3 times live. Nothing will ever compare to the power, skill and stage presence. My god.
I kind of gave up on metal just because how little live performances compare in sound quality vs studio. Especially drums and vocals but Meshugga is one of those very few bands I’ve experienced live (lamb of god and whitechapel are a couple others) that lived up to my hopes and totally blew me away.
@@theanarchistnextdoor4091 yes bro! LOG was insane live as well
Hell. Yes. Meshuggah is life.
I’d love to see you cover more Devin Townsend. Being a DEcomposer you’d really appreciate his quarantine performance of Why? It’s incredible.
Also I’m bringing back the word bitchin. 😆
I fucking love this, dude. Keep doing what you're doing.
Just want to say that I very much appreciate this channel and the good energy it puts out. Every video feels like I'm visiting with a friend and I mean that.
Just found your reaction videos. Love you takes :). I just wanted to add that watching these guys live is an experience. I love watching musicians up close. All 5 have a different timing tick and are all following different timings but yet all of them are in sync like the planets aligning. Tomas has the head twitch, Jens (vocalist) taps his timing with his right hand on his leg while singing, Dick (bassist) has a slow head bob that takes a full 8 count, and Fredrick and Marten have different head banging nods but both with different timings. They don't move around the stage because their timing has to be so precise. It took the band 9 months to practice the songs from the Obzen album before they took any of those songs to stage.
I know this might sound crazy but to me this song is so fast that it feels like it's slow in a way. I can't explain why.
I totally get that. Kinda like when something is so temperature hot it feels cold for the first couple seconds
It's because if you let the bass drums fade into the background the rest of the song is slow. They are in different musical timings
It's because it's specifically composed to drone, and droning is what this band does in every song.
This is why people don't understand when I say this music relaxes me; brings me back to square one. Most other music gives me anxiety!
Just listen to the symbols. It he rhythm is just slow chugging 4:4
My nominations for future listens:
"CAFO" by Animals as Leaders
"Ghosts of Perdition" by Opeth
Sol Niger Within by Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects IN ITS ENTIRETY :D
CAFO!! yes!!
Yes. Matt garstka
As well as tosin
@@MrChaynes24 don't forget Javier. He's no slouch either.
@@davidwright8932 yup couldn't think of his name
I loved hearing your insight as you listened this track. I could tell you were truly actively listening and taking everything in. My wife and I had the pleasure of seeing them play this live right after Obzen came out and they played it flawlessly of course lol. Awesome reaction!
Love seeing the wheels turning in a musical brain, braking down and sifting throuh the song. I can relate, music does something different to a musicians brain vs someone who can't play/doesn't understand music. It's like the bars are running throuh our heads with a subconscious click track trying to find the count, feel the groove/rhythm, feeding off the energy the music. Its almost primal and part spiritual. It's hard to explain. It's that feeling that comes over you when you hear a song that makes you wanna dance, but for a drummer we're dancing with each limb. Theres no feeling like it when people are dancing to music that your playing, they are feeling your energy and vice versa. It's kinda like the pied piper, people are being subconsciously manipulated by the musician and their instrument. It's amazing! Nothing like being on a big stage with lights flashing, a big crowd, and everyone is watching and reacting to the show, love it! Especially when your on the drum throne.
The John Bonham bit you’re talking about is “Good times Bad times” haha I know because I too have tried playing it as a drummer. Love your videos man 🤘🏼
This song took me like 6 months of dedicated practice before i could learn that foot pattern while keeping time with my hands. Really all in all, this band helped me understand polyrythms
To every metal band this good - always drum cam!! World needs more drum cams!!!!
amazing that drummers instantly know and feel the stress, the tension of holding such a rhythm for so long, which is precisely the meaning of that song as it describes someone having a stroke
Remember they play a whole concert, not just this track.... the stamina is incredible. a human metronome!
They usually play Bleed as the closer too. Unreal.
@@imperfectious That's even crazier haha!
Man you're right about being tight. That band was one of the tightest bands I've even seen and heard live. They produced so much energy, I swear the whole room heated up when they started playing lol
Great synopsis. I love Meshuggah and it's so reaffirming to hear professionals appreciate this music that we love.
This was the best reaction of " Bleed" i seen and heard . There is a lot of focus on Thomas Haake and the drums ( of course) but ... finally one reaction video, where somebody understand, how tight everything is , complicated, and one misstake would destroy it all ..i subscribe right now.
Thanks for doing this
Haake's ghost notes are always very subtle but they're EVERYWHERE, I think you can feel them subconsciously more than really hear them but somehow they contribute to the sound
A word about Jens Kidman, Meshuggah's singer. He's got one of the most powerful voices in this style of singing, but also has such incredible sense of timing. His vocal lines go over the top of all the timings/polyrhythms going on from the instruments without 'following' any of them. He basically does his own rhythm/timing, over all the instruments, and he never seems to ever lose the beat. A lot of times with odd time sigs the singing will be the most obvious part and easiest to follow but with Jens/'Shuggah, his timings are just as "odd" as the music. I've seen them play live only 1 time(Ozzfest '02 so a short set, Nothing album had just came out) but I've seen many live vids, and his voice always sounds strong.
The only problem is that the last few albums, Jens has totally lost his high end screams. He is running on low and mid screams/growls. He is 55 years old tho, so fair play. I don't know if he looked after his voice well over the years, thus the reason why he lost the high screams. You could start to hear it on Koloss. Violent Sleep of Reason, it's gone. Jens is definitely the best screamer I've ever heard, hands down.
@@mpk33 True, true. He still sounds better than most screamers I've ever heard, even if he's lost some of the high end. Shit, listen to Corey from Slipknot, he's really lost some of his power, they have both probably permanently damaged their throats.
@@williamcozart8158 I'm not really a Slipknot fan, but yeah, from what I've heard, I would agree. I remember asking one of the most prominent metal DJ's of the last 20-30 years in my country who interviews bands and icons every week for his show if he'd ever heard anyone in metal who screamed better than Jens, and he replied "nope."
@@mpk33 Me either, but Corey Taylor did have one of the most powerful and brutal mid-high end screams ever. He even put a a few death metal growlers to shame. He's still good but, as with Jens, has lost some of his high end, I'd say more so for Corey than Jens, but both re noticible. Shit even MJK with Tool has lost much of his power. I'd say he lost some after or during the 10K Days tour. He stopped even trying to do the long, hard(giggity), higher pitched screams/yells he used to do so awesomely, like in the song Vicarious, "vi-cari-ous-ly- i- live-while-the-whole-world-dies". He skips that part and stays quiet until and then sings the "much better you than I" part, sounding kind of weird and out of no where. Maybe he's doing one of those things where they let the crowd sing the catchy title or chorus line in popular songs, but I never saw in any vid, him point the mic at the crowd during that line, as singers who do that cheesy thing usually do. He also half asses some other screams and yells, but in a few vids of live performances Ive seen he does some screams pretty good, so IDK.
Also MJK, on the last Tool record, Fear Inoculum, did absolutely NO screaming or even yelling, none of those looong ass perfectly pitched yells, matching the guitar or bass pitch.
I've heard so many old school Tool fans hating on Tool's newest, FI and Maynard because he was so like, reserved and calm on the whole record. I think he feels and recognizes his age and limitations(the song Invincible is about this), and chose to be more reserved and focus on pitch and tone, rather than hi-intensity yelling and screaming. It does IMO fit the tone of the album, the more calm, meditative, textured but smooth vocals. I loved the raw power of old school Maynard, and all of these singer/screamers but they do age, they are human after all.
There is absolutely no margin for error here.... and there was none. I get chills everytime I see and here this vid. Sublime.
Awesome reaction. Informative and relevant commentary. And indeed, they are bending the strings to produce that sound.
My Favorite part about Meshuggah is that when they record their albums, they dont record each part individually and layer them. They record the full band at once for each song on every album. Its amazing. They are so in tune with each other after playing with each other for so long.
thats what they did on their last album. Not in general. They've tried a lot of different ways to record their albums (which is also great, cause most metalbands are extremly uncreative recordingwise)
cool to see someone finally pick up on why his vocals are so amazing
Geebz....I've been watching u for awhile now & I just can't get enough. I love listening to u break down & review all kinds of music. Good stuff man.👍👍😎😎. Please keep em coming!!
I appreciate that Chris!
I'm so so glad I've seen Meshuggah live when I had the chance. I strongly recommend.
The ghost notes on this songs are great , I don't know if there any isolated drums tracks available but there is a midi file comes along with superior drummer 3. It is not programmed but actually played by Thomas. It is pretty good to listen when you can actually hear the ghost notes being played.
When he bent over like you were talking about I believe it was to put on socks. Lol, I think his feet were moving so fast they were generating their own climate.
His feet were powering the entire gig
Thank you for this vid, it gives me an exquisite sort of joy to see people who really understand music hearing Meshuggah for the first time.
Love that you touched on the tone of the bass.
It sounds almost like a guitar here !
They weren't sure to put this song on their album, because it was so hard to play this live together. Tomas said he needed a few weeks to actually practice this. He said he really needed to change his way to approach playing the drums. I am so glad he reinvented himself into this style, because I wouldn't want to have missed this song in my live! 🤘
I once hear someone say that Tomas Haake is your favorite drummer's favorite drummer. 😁
Great ear when it comes to the quality of pickups on the guitar, those are Lundgren M80M one of the hands down best pickups you can get your hands on when you want to get bass, tightness and clarity (however they might be very genre specific - and this is coming from a BareKnuckle pickup fanboy). Regarding the Compressor and Reverd, Meshuggah uses Fractal FX II multi effects racks in their back line.... soooo yeah... let's talk shop!
Love that you just GET it brother, this song and this band is a spiritual experience. Amazing stuff, keep it up 🤘
one of the best reactions.. cuz you actually give a lot of information