Bigg Jah I understand your a Cowboys fan and I'm a Steelers fan so our history goes way back but I have a fun fact did you know that Bill Nunn's father Bill senior was the architect behind the legendary Pittsburgh Steelers of the 70s he drafted many hall of famers as a scout and the Steelers and Cowboys you know how we got down back in the day lol, and Pittsburgh that's my hometown and unfortunately they both passed away and Bill Sr was just inducted into the hall of Fame and Cowboy legend Tony Dorsett is from Alliquippa Pa just near the Pittsburgh airport he went to Hopewell high school, alot of legends came from West Pa. Marino, Montana, to name a few the glory days my dawg.
They're right about it not being as much about NYC as it is about Anytown, USA during the height of the crack epidemic. They only referred to it as "THE CITY" never NYC nor any references to the police department being NYPD. Just 'THE CITY". Even the subtitle at beginning said "THE CITY 1986"
Mario Van Peoples said NJC was originally based in Detroit and about a crew named YBI and The Chambers Brothers. But Hollywood didn't believe Detroit was getting money like that. So he switched it to NYC and added the Supreme Team element. You can look it up. I believe its also on the behind the scenes interviews of the movie.
Remember that Judd Nelson’s character didn’t break into the apartment but he broke into the mansion while the wedding was going on. The apartment was the hidden spot while Nino was on the run.
Hands down Will Smith couldn't play Nino Brown or a villian on the scale of Nino. and I believe Will is among the greats but I can't see Will tapping into that dark ugly energy you need.
If you know New York, you're going to associate New York with New Jack City. It wasn't based on New York, it was actually based on urban areas where drugs had infected the communities. New York was just a great place to film it.
G Money wasn’t really mad about that chick he was more jealous about her wanting Nino when he had as much clout in his mind. He harbored feelings about it because Nino was supposed to be his boy and treated him like a worker.
Maybe not, but imagine a White man can’t jump with Will as opposed to Wesley.. Will would have brought a comedic element & could have matched Wesley’s athleticism/basketball skill on camera.. But to say Will couldn’t play any of Wesley’s roles but Snipes could play any of wills is kind of crazy.. 7pounds with Wesley cmon man
6:22 I actually agree that this can be any other city but in Oakland the way Nino Brown ran things was the same as Felix Mitchell in Oakland. He took over the 69th village the way the Carter was taken over. Even to the point that Felix Mitchell barely made it to jail before he was killed.
Pookie was basically the one that was in the game with drugs, then got caught up using drugs, got clean and chosen to help the cops going undercover, then got caught up using drugs again while being undercover and died. Pookie should’ve just not get himself involved in it if he was gonna be around drugs again, but he wanted to help Ice T character as a favor in return for taking him to rehab. Pookie was still young man…and nobody he knew was at his funeral but Ice T character, Stone and the other cop Stone made Ice T team up with
New Jack City is the epitome of New York for me in the late 80's. Yes, there were drugs and dealers everywhere but this is New York. The whole vibe. West Coast, South Mid-West the vibe is different. Especially on the west coast where I grew up.. the vibe is different.
Will Smith could never be Nino Brown. Here's why: Will Smith is America's sweetheart. Wesley Snipes is America's fear. You have to have an edge and also the ability to move into those circles. Snipes in the run up to that moved in the streets and met real guys and went among their circles.
Will Smith playing a villain like nino brown would revitalize his career with EVERYBODY. Everybody feel like ain't black enough, he square, he squeaky clean but if he said fuck it and committed to a dark character he would kill the game
Bigg Jahh Excellent analysis again keep em coming, in new jack city one of the actors one wasn't recognized he's actually very underrated and his name is Thalmus Rasulala who played the captain in the movie who allowed Det. Stone which is Mario Van Peebles to hire Ice T and Judd Nelson's as the cops he needed now Mr Rasulala is the man who played in the series Roots he played Raj and Dee's father on the series What's happening.
They said g money was a sucka for turning to the pipe is a cautionary tale. There are SOOOOO many who used to be big time and end up on drugs. That’s why Craig in Friday uses the term getting high on ur own supply. That was and still is extremely common.
37:20 Great question!!!! Keisha was so gangsta that no one ever thought of her having a man!!!! 38:26 Y'all gotta speak on Belly next!!!! One of my favs!!!!
G money was smoking the whole time He put Nino and Duh Duh Man on the whole idea. He said he was smoking in the beginning when Duh Duh man was like you know the rules, us brothers aint supposed to be getting high
Another excellent review and conversation fellas!!!...with the exception of the guest's shoehorned banana joke (0 for 4 attempts..lol..)...other than that 5 out of 5 stars!!!!👍🏾
New Jack City was our Scarface & Nino Brown was our Tony Montana: Fun Facts: Martin Lawrence was supposed to play Pookie. He didn’t due to the death of Robin Harris who was his Mentor. Chris Rock bombed the audition, what made the writers, directors & producers changed their name was when he said it keeps calling me & calling me. New Jack City, Boyz N The Hood, Juice & Menace II Society is the Mount Rushmore of hood classics. Each movie taught us life lessons, launched a lot of careers, people have named themselves after the characters, each movie is referenced in other movies, shows, songs, albums & mixtapes & is still relevant 30 years laters & you could have your black card revoked if you’ve never seen these movies.
Nino got arrogant the bigger he got and he hit G Money with the lil nigga in front of everybody and then the last straw was when he started hitting his girl, which made G Money start looking outside the organization..
Hold on Ice T can play a ruthless ass gansta. Y’all ain’t watch New York Undercover when it came out?!?!? Danny Up/ Danny Cort killed JC girl while he was in the shower. Shot her cold blooded with the uzi with the muzzle and left flowers on top of her.
I love this Pod first off. Bigg Jahh is the man. I think you all missed the messaging on the demise of G Money. Crime/Business in the hood is a microcosm to greater society and corporate pressure. GMoney exemplifies what rapid success ruin life for the average person with compromised integrity. He was left in trust of more than he could manage and he married himself to his need for an escape. Money makes you more of what you truly are...in his situation an addict. Dudda man warned him from jump, not to be consumed by the product. Eventually he was overwhelmed by the demands. Like so many people in everyday society. In the end he longed for things to be the way the once were. Nino stated that could never be. The money makes you more of what you already are. The devil has a plan for every man's success story, to destroy them by their own lust.
To say Will couldn’t play any of Wesley’s roles but Snipes could play any of Wills is kind of crazy.. 7pounds with Wesley?? Pursuit of happiness? I think that’s a little out of his range. Meanwhile, imagine a White man can’t jump with Will as opposed to Wesley.. Will would have brought a comedic element & could have matched Wesley’s athleticism/basketball skill on camera..
Not for nothing, I can tell Tone don't know anything about selling drugs. You can't just get someone to pretend to be a base head and infiltrate an organization of that size. It takes time and no one who's a smart dealer would sell to some random person they never seen before.
I love the observance of, WHERE WAS NINO'S SECURITY AT THE WEDDING... and yall say, that a sacred moment... But the PASTOR WAS AT THE TABLE WITH NINO TALKING DRUGS...
The other two cats are wrong, the movie was filmed majority in Harlem and the South Bronx. It dealt with NYC drug gang culture as well as NY Mafia, this was a NYC culture as it gets. For someone who only in NYC for business and right back out I wouldn’t expect them to understand.
Shot out and RIP to Dustin Felder (who was one of the kids in the scene with the old man cussing out Nino) went to middle school with him in Philly. Shawmont Elementary
Slight correction my bros, New Jack Swing was actually a term coined by Barry Michael Cooper, a music journalist, about 3 years before New Jack City was filmed and released in a ln article about Teddy Riley as an up an coming producer.
If you watch the featurette about the movie, Mario Van Peebles talks a lot about not being able to shoot a lot of NYC. That's why you only see the city in the opening shot
The Carter is actually a real situation that happened in Detroit with the chamber brothers... Once again it is an inner-city problem not just a New York problem
Make sure y'all subscribe to the channel! 2DAMAX!!!
Bigg Jah I understand your a Cowboys fan and I'm a Steelers fan so our history goes way back but I have a fun fact did you know that Bill Nunn's father Bill senior was the architect behind the legendary Pittsburgh Steelers of the 70s he drafted many hall of famers as a scout and the Steelers and Cowboys you know how we got down back in the day lol, and Pittsburgh that's my hometown and unfortunately they both passed away and Bill Sr was just inducted into the hall of Fame and Cowboy legend Tony Dorsett is from Alliquippa Pa just near the Pittsburgh airport he went to Hopewell high school, alot of legends came from West Pa. Marino, Montana, to name a few the glory days my dawg.
@biggjah you should review the movie “blade” and how that’s the movie that started marvel studios
You should review fresh great 90s movie
They're right about it not being as much about NYC as it is about Anytown, USA during the height of the crack epidemic. They only referred to it as "THE CITY" never NYC nor any references to the police department being NYPD. Just 'THE CITY". Even the subtitle at beginning said "THE CITY 1986"
New jack city is 💯 NEW YORK! Even the Carter is New york Projects...the fasion..the ITALIANS...everything FEELS NYC.. Lmao. The landscape.
Ice-T actually played a cold hearted killer in New York Undercover
I hated him in that show...when Malik yoba finally got his ass I was elated!
@@rashadwalker8218 Yes. I’m still sad that he killed Sandy & her unborn baby.
True i rewatched it on hulu
@@therealmarlonbellamy that was Unsweetened Ice-T☠️
@@michaelclark8831 Sure was
You need to see Ice T in New York Undercover if you think that he couldn't have played Nino .
Ice-T plays a great villain.
The best portrayal of The Joker was when Wesley played Simon Phoenix in Demolition Man
“ Sit your $5 dollar ass down before I make change” Classic line
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN! homie! alotta people most likely are dumfounded by this comment but I know EXACTLY where you coming from!
That's the best comment speaking on that classic, Simon crazy ass def can be the black joker!!!!
All facts
Thats 2nd TO HEATH LEGDER MAYBE
One thing I love about this movie is that queen latifah was not in the movie but yet I think of her whenever I think of new jack city.
You guys definitely have to rank black evil leads that will be a sick concept
Excelente idea
Yes please
Right off LL's character in In Too Deep comes to mind as the most evil.
Mario Van Peoples said NJC was originally based in Detroit and about a crew named YBI and The Chambers Brothers. But Hollywood didn't believe Detroit was getting money like that. So he switched it to NYC and added the Supreme Team element. You can look it up. I believe its also on the behind the scenes interviews of the movie.
Allen Payne in Blue Hill Ave was 🔥🔥 too.
I agree with the notion that Will can't play Nino Brown. In that same breath, I would not wanna see Wesley as Mike Lawry in Bad Boys.
Remember that Judd Nelson’s character didn’t break into the apartment but he broke into the mansion while the wedding was going on. The apartment was the hidden spot while Nino was on the run.
Hands down Will Smith couldn't play Nino Brown or a villian on the scale of Nino. and I believe Will is among the greats but I can't see Will tapping into that dark ugly energy you need.
I loved this movie so much as I teenager
My friends and I started saying "Am I my brothers keeper?" to greet each other lol
this is legit the podcast and show I have always been looking for. I love the focus on Black great movies.
If you know New York, you're going to associate New York with New Jack City. It wasn't based on New York, it was actually based on urban areas where drugs had infected the communities. New York was just a great place to film it.
That story nino tells ice t about the lady being shot in the face was Ice T’s mom
Would like to see Posse done.
Oh man - I remember seeing that in the theatre. Loved that movie!
G Money wasn’t really mad about that chick he was more jealous about her wanting Nino when he had as much clout in his mind. He harbored feelings about it because Nino was supposed to be his boy and treated him like a worker.
How's that not the same thing as being mad the chick choosing Nino over him?
New Jack City was a cross between The Untouchables and Scarface..also I hope Y'all Review Training Day
Will Smith could never be Nino Brown
G money or Appleton but big nino naw
Will from the hood he finessed hollywood with the good boy image
Maybe not, but imagine a White man can’t jump with Will as opposed to Wesley.. Will would have brought a comedic element & could have matched Wesley’s athleticism/basketball skill on camera..
But to say Will couldn’t play any of Wesley’s roles but Snipes could play any of wills is kind of crazy.. 7pounds with Wesley cmon man
I think Will Smith could pull it off. It just wouldn't be as believable!
That was a dark skin role definitely 😂😂
6:22 I actually agree that this can be any other city but in Oakland the way Nino Brown ran things was the same as Felix Mitchell in Oakland. He took over the 69th village the way the Carter was taken over. Even to the point that Felix Mitchell barely made it to jail before he was killed.
Fun Fact: Uniqua is the same chick from She’s Gotta Have It.
CMB was solid. You wasn’t gonna get any closer to them without Pookie.
Pookie was basically the one that was in the game with drugs, then got caught up using drugs, got clean and chosen to help the cops going undercover, then got caught up using drugs again while being undercover and died. Pookie should’ve just not get himself involved in it if he was gonna be around drugs again, but he wanted to help Ice T character as a favor in return for taking him to rehab. Pookie was still young man…and nobody he knew was at his funeral but Ice T character, Stone and the other cop Stone made Ice T team up with
37:41 Bruce had a flashback about E 😂😂😂😂😂
New Jack City is the epitome of New York for me in the late 80's. Yes, there were drugs and dealers everywhere but this is New York. The whole vibe. West Coast, South Mid-West the vibe is different. Especially on the west coast where I grew up.. the vibe is different.
Will Smith 100% can not play Nino Brown
Will Smith could never be Nino Brown. Here's why: Will Smith is America's sweetheart. Wesley Snipes is America's fear. You have to have an edge and also the ability to move into those circles. Snipes in the run up to that moved in the streets and met real guys and went among their circles.
King of New York 🔥
Will Smith playing a villain like nino brown would revitalize his career with EVERYBODY. Everybody feel like ain't black enough, he square, he squeaky clean but if he said fuck it and committed to a dark character he would kill the game
Allen Payne's best role was Tristan on Blue Hill Avenue. Yall gotta review that ASAP
Seriously underrated movie!
Bigg Jahh Excellent analysis again keep em coming, in new jack city one of the actors one wasn't recognized he's actually very underrated and his name is Thalmus Rasulala who played the captain in the movie who allowed Det. Stone which is Mario Van Peebles to hire Ice T and Judd Nelson's as the cops he needed now Mr Rasulala is the man who played in the series Roots he played Raj and Dee's father on the series What's happening.
Ah yeah, and his hairstyle in the movie tho!.......MAAAAN that shit was on ANOTHER LEVEL!
@@handolo1266 dawg I peeped that they could've gave him a cool grey afro or something.
G money was the original Stringer Bell
They said g money was a sucka for turning to the pipe is a cautionary tale. There are SOOOOO many who used to be big time and end up on drugs. That’s why Craig in Friday uses the term getting high on ur own supply. That was and still is extremely common.
You ain't lying
37:20 Great question!!!! Keisha was so gangsta that no one ever thought of her having a man!!!!
38:26 Y'all gotta speak on Belly next!!!! One of my favs!!!!
I feel him on the environment thing ! New York City wasn’t as much of a character as you would think by the name
NJC was based on the Chambers Brothers out of Detroit. Barry Michael Cooper who co wrote the film said it on American Gangster (BET)
Nino died like Birdie in ABOVE THE RIM.
This and R&B Money are my favorite podcasts.🔥🔥💪🏾💪🏾
G money was smoking the whole time He put Nino and Duh Duh Man on the whole idea. He said he was smoking in the beginning when Duh Duh man was like you know the rules, us brothers aint supposed to be getting high
You right, they were driving and talking so you don't pay attention to it.
Now I gotta re-watch that part. I never even thought of that! Keen observation!
Wesley is the the most talented and biggest action star. Highly underrated
Don Cheadle played Mouse Alexander in devil in a blue dress could play the role
Right! If you didn't want him killed... Why you leave him with me? LOL
Another excellent review and conversation fellas!!!...with the exception of the guest's shoehorned banana joke (0 for 4 attempts..lol..)...other than that 5 out of 5 stars!!!!👍🏾
Okay, who harmonizing at the beginning of the podcast?
1:00:32 😂😂😂 Wesley, “Brother. Keep it together.” 😂😂😂
This is so amazing thank you so much so entertaining
This movie deeper than you think. It’s more similar to fight club than you may imagine. Nino didn’t really exist
We went 4 deep to go see NJC, underage, and it was so crowded fools was sittin on the floor. Never seen that since.
Ice-T played a Nino brown type of character in New York Undercover as Danny Cort or Danny Up. So I believe Ice-T could do it
And he was crazier than Nino
New Jack City was our Scarface & Nino Brown was our Tony Montana: Fun Facts: Martin Lawrence was supposed to play Pookie. He didn’t due to the death of Robin Harris who was his Mentor. Chris Rock bombed the audition, what made the writers, directors & producers changed their name was when he said it keeps calling me & calling me. New Jack City, Boyz N The Hood, Juice & Menace II Society is the Mount Rushmore of hood classics. Each movie taught us life lessons, launched a lot of careers, people have named themselves after the characters, each movie is referenced in other movies, shows, songs, albums & mixtapes & is still relevant 30 years laters & you could have your black card revoked if you’ve never seen these movies.
Nino got arrogant the bigger he got and he hit G Money with the lil nigga in front of everybody and then the last straw was when he started hitting his girl, which made G Money start looking outside the organization..
I don't think Will Smith could play Nino Brown, but maybe Denzel Washington could
He was right to say fugitive. US Marshall's is the sequel to Fugitive. I wish they would do a part 3
Ego is a monster, for some people when you get your ego crushed it leads to a downward spiral that leads to drugs and alcohol
This is early crack nobody fully understood how bad it was!
G-Money thought he could kick the drugs whenever
Nino was the best bad guy ever
You guys have to review Sugar Hill
Great content as always
24:22 was always one of my favorite lines from that movie lol
I asked and y’all delivered!
The CARTER APARTMENTS was ran like a gym.
This was great fellas!
Great Review. When yall going to do "King o New York"? Wesley is in it as well
Man what's the schedule on these because I'm feenin for more
It was called New Jack Swing before the movie.
In 91 most computer systems were self contained not like now, we are talking 30 years ago
Wesley is a trained actor Will Smith is a charismatic person that is able to act.
Excellent!
Hold on Ice T can play a ruthless ass gansta. Y’all ain’t watch New York Undercover when it came out?!?!? Danny Up/ Danny Cort killed JC girl while he was in the shower. Shot her cold blooded with the uzi with the muzzle and left flowers on top of her.
I love this Pod first off. Bigg Jahh is the man. I think you all missed the messaging on the demise of G Money. Crime/Business in the hood is a microcosm to greater society and corporate pressure. GMoney exemplifies what rapid success ruin life for the average person with compromised integrity. He was left in trust of more than he could manage and he married himself to his need for an escape. Money makes you more of what you truly are...in his situation an addict. Dudda man warned him from jump, not to be consumed by the product. Eventually he was overwhelmed by the demands. Like so many people in everyday society. In the end he longed for things to be the way the once were. Nino stated that could never be. The money makes you more of what you already are. The devil has a plan for every man's success story, to destroy them by their own lust.
To say Will couldn’t play any of Wesley’s roles but Snipes could play any of Wills is kind of crazy.. 7pounds with Wesley?? Pursuit of happiness? I think that’s a little out of his range.
Meanwhile, imagine a White man can’t jump with Will as opposed to Wesley.. Will would have brought a comedic element & could have matched Wesley’s athleticism/basketball skill on camera..
So y’all keep talking about the old lady Nino killed and never said that she was Ice T’s momma 🤷🏽♀️
Not for nothing, I can tell Tone don't know anything about selling drugs. You can't just get someone to pretend to be a base head and infiltrate an organization of that size. It takes time and no one who's a smart dealer would sell to some random person they never seen before.
About Pookie....Nino did say he would give him a job if he cleaned himself up.
"My God, that nigga eatin' fruit" lol
Jada would play a better Nino than Will
I love the observance of, WHERE WAS NINO'S SECURITY AT THE WEDDING... and yall say, that a sacred moment... But the PASTOR WAS AT THE TABLE WITH NINO TALKING DRUGS...
I think y’all should do a movie review over “Life” on the next go around.
NO Blue Hill Avenue is up there for allen
I think Jukebox actually exist in the same time period as New Jack
The other two cats are wrong, the movie was filmed majority in Harlem and the South Bronx. It dealt with NYC drug gang culture as well as NY Mafia, this was a NYC culture as it gets. For someone who only in NYC for business and right back out I wouldn’t expect them to understand.
Shot out and RIP to Dustin Felder (who was one of the kids in the scene with the old man cussing out Nino) went to middle school with him in Philly. Shawmont Elementary
My favorite Wesley joint is “Disappearing Acts.”
G-Money was smoking rock when he first introduced rock to Nino.
Was just thinking... No way in hell Ice T scraping off on Snipes like that!
5:44 fun fact Stevie J was one of the singers at the trash can
Slight correction my bros, New Jack Swing was actually a term coined by Barry Michael Cooper, a music journalist, about 3 years before New Jack City was filmed and released in a ln article about Teddy Riley as an up an coming producer.
Will can't even control his own girl, let alone play a drug king pin. Man yall stop playin
The first computer on the market that everyday people could buy was in the early 80's.
White men can't jump is my favorite Wesley Snipes role.
Waiting for that part 2
For the New Jack Cityyyy! BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM! 😄👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
We were definitely calling it New Jack Swing for at least a year before the movie came out
You forgetting pokie was offered the job if he cleaned up by nino himself and pokie volunteered
Hey fam, the Carter was a real place in Detroit. The characters were loosely based on the Carter Brothers.
Whadup mayne. I'm diggin this channel. Yall gotta review CLOCKERS (1995) 🎬 👊🏽
Will Smith couldn't play Nino, movie wouldn't be iconic.
Denzel and Wesley should be the bad guys in the next Bad Boys film. Let's go.
If you watch the featurette about the movie, Mario Van Peebles talks a lot about not being able to shoot a lot of NYC. That's why you only see the city in the opening shot
Tony stay tryna find something wrong in every movie.
The Carter is actually a real situation that happened in Detroit with the chamber brothers... Once again it is an inner-city problem not just a New York problem
This was too short ! We need a part 2. Didn’t even bring up the soundtrack