The Ideology Iceberg Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The Ideology Iceberg Explained, from vanilla topics such as capitalism and libertarianism, to even weirder and more obscure ideas.
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In dedication to bizarre ideologies listed on an iceberg chart.
Ideology iceberg explained
NOTE: At 16:22 I accidentally left a full minute of Yoshi sounds while editing the audio of this section to censor A.H.'s name. That's my bad! It won’t happen again. However, in retrospect it is very funny.
It's fucking hilarious. Took me awhile to realize what happened lol
Kind of creepy, I was pretty irritated at first lol.
I want you to know that I love you
I'm going towards it let's see
LMFAOOO WHY IS IT EERY BUT FUNNY
We need an “Everything” iceberg that tackles literally every topic ever
wikipedia?
The longest iceberg of all
Check out Wendigoon on YT, he's doing a huge iceberg about basically that
yea its going to be a 10000000 part sires and each video will be 100000 hours long
There is one actually! I remember seeing it once but I don't remember it
Having yoshi saying "Yum" after you introduce Circulus is the funniest shit 16:55
@@Mrshark609 language
Posadism is one of those ideologies that is better explained with memes rather than telling someone about it
I've been waiting so fucking long for a TH-camr to say that regarding subscribing, watch first, decide later. Props.
Dude, you didn´t talked about my political ideology: I'ma Accelerationist Anarcho-Neo-Posasdist with Chinese Characteristics... im disappointed dislike
understandable
lol
Anarcho-autotarian-socialist-comuno-nazi-liberalist-primitivism
Marxism-leninism never rejected global revolution, Lenin was passionate about the idea:
*"We see the same picture as we do now in Germany. And there the same dull discontent of the popular masses is growing, which will inevitably result in the forms of a popular movement. We cannot decree the revolution, but we can also contribute to it. We will lead an organized fraternization in the trenches, help the peoples of the West to start an invincible socialist revolution... I firmly believe that in the end the social revolution will win in all civilized countries."*
Stalin never thought of himself as a pretty big deal, in fact it's the opposite, which is, again, evident in his works:
*"I must tell you, comrades, in all conscience, that I did not deserve a good half of the praise that was bestowed on me here... It is unpleasant when exaggerated to hyperbolic dimensions. People get ecstatic over nothing. Out of hundreds of greetings, I only respond to 1-2, I don't allow most of them to be printed, I don't allow too enthusiastic greetings to be printed at all once I find out about them. Nine-tenths of these greetings are really quite tasteless. And they give me unpleasant experiences."*
"Cult of personality" is propaganda that has been enforced during Khrushchev's era.
Issue with Trotsky is that he tried to propagate for global revolution which wasn't possible at the time for destroyed Union. They didn't even have resources to feed their own people after poor Russian Empire.
The guy is obviously clueless to politics as a whole as he thought libertarian socialism was an oxymoron, essentially he is a buffon
@@comrade4309 to be fair he made it clear his take is not a serious one. Issue is that a lot of people in the comments took this video as a literal guide to politics and that's saddening
On that note and to contend with a few of your points, Marxism-Leninism, which is ridiculed by detractors as Stalinism (to reference it being the official state ideology of the U.S.S.R. under Stalin's leadership, insofar as he as an individual led it, which was theoretically laid out by him), is neither Marxist nor Leninist tbh in that it implicitly rejects/fails to uphold principles/perspectives of either, including internationalism in being a nation-state ideology. To further clarify, Leninism, distinct from Marxism-Leninism, could simply be considered a minor, arguably logical development of Marxism/Marxist praxis by Lenin extending to specific conditions beyond Marx's lifetime.
Also, cults of personality can form regardless of one's intentions. Stalin even admits that he apparently had a sort of cult of personality form around him in the second excerpt *you* quoted. It matters not his personal affinity on the matter. The hypocritical error of many lies in their attribution of a 'notorious', 'exceptional' cult of personality around Stalin (who usually _represents_ something they dislike) but simultaneous ignorance (sometimes willful) of the 'cults of personality' they are involved with or support in capitalist society, particularly around certain commodities, beliefs, and political/celebrity figures. Most U.S. presidents have had similar cults of personality to Stalin's, at least in proportion to their years in power, for instance.
I just clicked and I'm hyped, your content has been chef's kiss as always my dude
Glad to hear it! Thank you :)
@@zeepsterd this is a great channel!
16:22 Yoshi sound effects play for like a minute
MY BAD.
@@zeepsterd I thought that was supposed to be a joke lol
as a spanish citizen, im confused af why is the political chart meme of spain in english but im pleased to see that lmao
Oshstias tio
*The split second of Chug Jug With You at the beginning*
Anarcho-monarchism is actually a system where after the death of each monarch the state no longer exists until a civil war is fought with the winner becoming the new monarch. Think of Mad Max. The name is probably inspired by the English historical period known as “The Anarchy” in the 1100’s when there was no recognized king for more than 20 years as multiple factions fought for the throne.
Anarcho-monarchism is just like the Anarcho-capitalism, Hoppe explains that it is completely plausible since people would just accept the monarch as a natural authority. Just that my dude, the monarch don’t rule, he is just “respected”
Bro you didn’t talk about jimmyjohnism, it’s physically Jimmy and socially John
Johnnysinnisim
As a Brazilian, I was sad not to see "Varguism" listed here. I want to have the right to burn coffee in peace
The ending was entertaining. You should go into more of these crazier ideologies
Aside from the minute of obnoxious Yoshi noises
@@masonjolley-yule3308 yeah true. Editor should quit that
Me: In school
Zeepsterd: uploads
Me: this paper can wait.
The video is pretty nice, but I'd like to clear something up about anarchism. Anarchists don't really believe in abolishing government, but rather the state.
Those are two diffrent things.
A government can be any institution or group that "governs", as in that controls and manages the wealth, information and labor of a society. You could say a board of directors are the "government" of a company, or that silicon valley are the "government" of the internet. Some anarchists even consider something like a family a small government.
Classical anarchists do want to abolish the state in it's current form, but not the concept of government. Govermment and collective decisionmaking will exist in any society. They just want a society in which any government that takes shape features a minimum of authoritarianism, horizontal democratic decisionmaking and without any institutions that hold big monopolies of violence or force, like a police or a military.
Yeah, I was about to say. Anarchism is just the abolition of the state and its use of force to coerce a public to obey arbitrary rules and laws for the benefit of the government. Government itself isn't bad since it helps organize people into action, but anarchism doesn't try to coerce you into doing anything.
One of the best examples for how anarchism can work is what I've heard described as the "shopping cart" test. Once you finish shopping at Walmart or whatever, and you take your shopping cart to your car and empty it. Now, what do you do with the shopping cart? It is 100% legal to just leave it in the parking lot, without putting it in its designated lane. No one is gonna force you to put it anywhere else. Every person that puts the shopping cart in its right place does so unprompted and can thus self-govern greatly. That's what anarchism is: a collection of people who voluntarily make others' lives more convenient by keeping things organized. Anyone who doesn't put the cart back isn't ready to commit to an anarchist society, simply because they can't even be bothered to put it back for the sake of anyone else.
Also, the reason why anarchism has so many ideologies is because we don't have many famous or infamous anarchists. Authoritarians literally have so many names because their policies were carried out successfully. I would happily rename some of the ideologies Bakuninism, Goldmanism, Kropotkinism, Bookchinism, or Turnerism, but that's just me.
Interesting thank you
Wow, this guy understood none of these ideologies.
Anarchoanarchism
I’d say, as a libertarian socialist, libertarian socialism is the idea that government should only serve the people, and should be limited as much as possible beyond that.
I’m a libertarian Capitalist but yeah same thing really, state should only protect the people’s rights and nothing more.
y’know circulism has an extremely interesting point behind it. it’s basically what we already do with cows and chickens but applied to humans. hmmm..
Have you considered separating this into timestamps for each ideology or each part of the iceberg?
"You may be a little cautious to subscribe"
*Immediately plays Earthbound music*
I dunno man you drive a really hard bargain
Marxism-Leninism doesn't reject worldwide revolution, it just wants to build socialism in one country first and then export the revolution. Every other revolution is likely to fail, due to instability and so on. We want to build a world socialist republic, due to the fact that communism is just achievable worldwide. A lot of MLs generally rely on the ideas of Marx, Engels and Lenin.
Everytime I hear capitalism I think of Max Payne
“Say what you want about us Americans, but we understand capitalism. You get what you pay for!”
- Max Payne (Max Payne 3)
My TH-cam recommended has been on point lately
"Enough of anarchy"
"Please turn me into another form of anarchism"
*anarcho-anti-multiple-forms-of-anarchism*
"FUUUUCCCCKKK"
POV: You need to Google "Murray Bookchin"
9:37 "Okay, things are getting a little crazy"
Dude you just talked about caveman ideology, cyborg ideology, and a guy who threw his enemies off helicopters. You past crazy.
Transhumanism isn't that wacky, but then again, I am a transhumanist.
@@Lord_Of_Aether Shame, I know of weird stuff but being sexually attracted to washing machine? Thats just bad dude
@@krsmanjovanovic8607 That isn't transhumanism.
@@Lord_Of_Aether Is yanking a computer chip inside your skull and praying to artificial intelligence overlords normal?
@@Lord_Of_Aether *Abominal intelligence
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I find most Anarcho ideologies confusing and impossible. But I respect y’all’s opinion
what, no Falangism?
Bro i went from commie to nazi to national bolshevism to homo fashism to neo conservatism to conservatism to progressive then to neo conservatism then to conservatims then to classical liberalism to liberatarianism and then to Anarcho capitalism.
What a time to be alive.
Its like Yoshi is disgusted or excited at the lower tiers
As an anarchist,
... I'm sorry.
Keep on doing the content it's really cool
I could be wrong about this but I think corporate buddhism is just the practice or belief of Buddhism but in the workforce? again I’m probably wrong about this but I’m just assuming that this is what is means
Great video as always but one problem I had was that you used the modern definition of conservatism and the French Revolution era definition of liberalism.
Technically most American conservatives and liberals would fall under the old definition of “liberalism”. Although you pretty much touched on the Democratic Party’s ideals with Progressivism.
15:38 posadism is not a form of accelerationism. It pre dates accelerationism by years.
Didn’t know return to monke was a legitimate political ideology.
00:01 I was genuinely confused why socialist was centre then I realised that it was a chart of Spain
Oooh boy, I can't wait to cross check every ideological detail he gets wrong. Sidenote: Still loving your videos, man.
Where is keeping it weezer? I need more....
May 15th :)
Love the music used in this video
*Transhumanism*
Damn I didn’t know the Combine were real
Good morning Mr Freeman
You conflate social democracy with socialism
What about Human Nationalism?
I unironically want a Human state, it’s not absurd or a particularly crazy ideology, but is strangely mostly unheard of or not taken seriously.
There are a lot of esoteric fascists who are not Nazis. Esoteric Hitlerism is a completely different ideology from esoteric fascism in much the same way that Nazism is very different from fascism in many ways.
what's with all the yoshi noises near the end?
WHOOPS MY BAD. WAS ONLY MEANT TO BE ONE YOSHI SOUND. SORRY
Throat forgot imperialism
Anarcho zeepism
the amount of hours you have in garfield kart determines your worth as an individual.
16:55 Could North Korea be considered in this?!?!
I love the fact that you put China as a good example of nationalism, it's a much more accurate description than communist a socialist these days
a few things:
1) there's no such thing as "stalinism." its not a real ideology. it's just a slang term for marxism-leninism that anticommunists use in order to smear MLism and associate it with anticommunist propaganda about stalin.
2) marxism-leninism isn't really what you described. MLs believe in a temporary state with a vanguard party, to protect the state against imperialists during the transition to communism. after the state outlives its usefulness, it will be dissolved to move onto late-stage communism (i.e, "full communism") the one thing you got kinda right is that MLism is marxism applied to the material conditions of russia, but there's also separate paths of MLism like Ho Chi Minh Thought, which developed in vietnam and is marxism applied to vietnam's material conditions.
3) the idea of stalin cultivating a cult of personality comes from baseless anticommunist propaganda. Stalin didn't have a cult of personality and never wanted one. he *specifically* warned against "great man theory" and cults of personality in a ton of his speeches and essays, reminding the people that the power lies in the proletariat's hands, not in his, and that he works for them.
he also tried to resign on 5 different occasions, but wasn't allowed to. not really the behavior of a power-hungry dictator.
read some of stalin's writing yourself, or look into writings by people who actually lived under stalin, and it becomes glaringly obvious that most of what us westerners know about him is anticommunist propaganda and red scare-era bullshit.
As a leftist I still personally distance myself from Stalin. When people hear communism they automatically think of totalitarianism because of him, when in reality late stage Marxism is almost as against the state as it is capitalism. I always make this distinction when arguing with anti-communists and when educating people that don’t know any better, otherwise they think I’m in favour of complete authoritarianism.
It really is a shame, it’s by far the most misunderstood theory ever. Also the fact that ‘anarcho communism’ is even a thing shows that not even leftists understand that communism in its true form is basically anarchy.
Can transhumanism reallyg be called a political ideology? Don't we all want robot arms?
Lol, jreg fans be like. Accelerationism is at the bottom lol.
Libertarian Socialism doesn't use state control over the economy rather the economy is ran by worker's cooperatives and syndicates
Teddy Roosevelt gang!!
It's the number one politics sound
Zeepsterd we bout to get down
Don’t think we didn’t hear the first second of the video
more iceberg
The whole MAGA thing from Trump Presidency is like a Ideology
Socialism isn't when the goverment does stuff it's when workers democratically own the means of production. So in other words anarcho socialism is no goverment and the work place is demacratic
there is still government in anarcho socialism, but no state. Its also much more direct democracy and decentralized.
I thought this video was so boring when I first watched it. Until I studied history :)
What about nuclear nihilism?
“ism”
Posadism is unironically based
The creator of the meme forgot to add minarchy
Sir please I do believe we need more ideologies explained
We have to many useless ideologies
70% of those ideologies don't work and never will
I think Jreg beat you to it, but that would be expected for Jreg
The video started work around two weeks ago, and unfortunately Jereg’s came out first :/
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glad iceberg videos are getting deep now
Some of these Anarchy sub ideologies aren't really possible or even stable without a state.
Damn dude, you posted cringe. Imagine showing the entire internet that you don't understand any of these ideologies
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Yoshi is Ingsoc gang
Ideologyism: it’s the ideology that you believe in an ideology
I would like to make a note on the political compass chart shown in the beginning, showing anarchism in the bottom right corner. Along with attributing the most bottom-left part of the compass as "anarcho communism." This suggests that anarchism is a right idea, that the left co-opted into their own ideology. When it is exactly the opposite. Anarchism is in fact a leftist ideology, that libertarians stole to use to describe anarcho-capitalism. The same thing happened to the word libertarian itself.
edit: And going along with that, anarcho-capitalism isn't even anarchism. The very creator of anarcho-capitalism said as much. So not only did they steal the term, they're using it to describe something not even slightly related to anarchism itself.
American-centric approach. Conservatism comes from Europe and has only just been adapted to the USA.
10:55 wrong level
“Number one victory royale”
great video.
If I had to list my ideologies, I would say I am a combination of transhumanism, posthumanism, monarchism, progressivism and democratic socialism. figure that one out. basically i want humans to do everything they can to eliminate suffering and injustice over time, but with democratic participation in this process, and a constitutional symbolic monarch as head of state.
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Yes.
how is socialism and anarchism an oxymoron? how is communal ownership of the means of production counter to anarchism?
The yoshi sounds are really annoying
Great video!
Ideologies to Reddit are what sexualities are to Tumblr.
9:05 funny how conservatives shame socialists for doing the same thing
He missed monarchies
should have included the party that notch belongs to
Didn't talk about egoism. I hate.
this is my favrite is iceberg so far
He skipped over my ideology. I'm an anarcho egoist. Basically I believe that oneself is the only thing that holds any objective value so it should take priority over everything else. Many modern ideas are just constructs that limit the ego, for example morality. I don't know why he skipped over this when he went over more obscure stuff but whatever. Also the way he described anarcho primitive was simplified to the point where the definition is barely even correct. There are many reasons as to why one may identify as an anarcho primitivist, one of the main ones being what ted kaczynski refers to as "surrogate" activities. Surrogate activities are activities that mentally drain ones ego by not contributing to their life in any meaningful way. Anprims rid themselves of such activities by basing their lifestyles in a way where everything they do is meaningful to their survival. The ideology he described sounds closer to primal primivitism/primalism. Some key ideologies are also missing on this iceberg entirely. Kakistocracy isn't here, neither is soulism or avaritionism. Shit iceberg and shit video all around
ok
I am converting to Anarcho-Zeepsterdism
It’s honestly sad, that I know most of these
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