The Ideology Iceberg Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2021
- The Ideology Iceberg Explained, from vanilla topics such as capitalism and libertarianism, to even weirder and more obscure ideas.
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In dedication to bizarre ideologies listed on an iceberg chart.
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NOTE: At 16:22 I accidentally left a full minute of Yoshi sounds while editing the audio of this section to censor A.H.'s name. That's my bad! It won’t happen again. However, in retrospect it is very funny.
It's fucking hilarious. Took me awhile to realize what happened lol
Kind of creepy, I was pretty irritated at first lol.
I want you to know that I love you
I'm going towards it let's see
LMFAOOO WHY IS IT EERY BUT FUNNY
I never expected “return to monke” to be an actual political ideology
Reject modernity Return to Anarcho-Primativsm
That's where the meme kind of originated from lmao.
Take the Ted pill
Grug must destroy industrial society
thats called Anprim.
Anprim is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more than that but ok
We need an “Everything” iceberg that tackles literally every topic ever
wikipedia?
The longest iceberg of all
Check out Wendigoon on YT, he's doing a huge iceberg about basically that
yea its going to be a 10000000 part sires and each video will be 100000 hours long
There is one actually! I remember seeing it once but I don't remember it
Having yoshi saying "Yum" after you introduce Circulus is the funniest shit 16:55
@@Mrshark609 language
Posadism is one of those ideologies that is better explained with memes rather than telling someone about it
Finally, someone explain these darn ideologies in a way I could understand and not being bias. Thank you Zeep
he obviously has a bias
@@stijnhonigvoort3448 yeah, hes obviously a nazi communist... duhhhh
@@PanzerTank_ he has no clue about third positionist and communist ideologies, he’s obviously a liberal
Fax
@@legocamdude1 mfw a 12-year tells me gommunism dont work 😭😭🥺🥺
I've been waiting so fucking long for a TH-camr to say that regarding subscribing, watch first, decide later. Props.
as a spanish citizen, im confused af why is the political chart meme of spain in english but im pleased to see that lmao
Oshstias tio
16:22 Yoshi sound effects play for like a minute
MY BAD.
@@zeepsterd I thought that was supposed to be a joke lol
*The split second of Chug Jug With You at the beginning*
I just clicked and I'm hyped, your content has been chef's kiss as always my dude
Glad to hear it! Thank you :)
@@zeepsterd this is a great channel!
Dude, you didn´t talked about my political ideology: I'ma Accelerationist Anarcho-Neo-Posasdist with Chinese Characteristics... im disappointed dislike
understandable
lol
Anarcho-autotarian-socialist-comuno-nazi-liberalist-primitivism
Anarcho-monarchism is actually a system where after the death of each monarch the state no longer exists until a civil war is fought with the winner becoming the new monarch. Think of Mad Max. The name is probably inspired by the English historical period known as “The Anarchy” in the 1100’s when there was no recognized king for more than 20 years as multiple factions fought for the throne.
Anarcho-monarchism is just like the Anarcho-capitalism, Hoppe explains that it is completely plausible since people would just accept the monarch as a natural authority. Just that my dude, the monarch don’t rule, he is just “respected”
Bro you didn’t talk about jimmyjohnism, it’s physically Jimmy and socially John
Johnnysinnisim
*LAYER 1: NOTHING*
1:05: Apoliticism
*LAYER 2: SOMETHING*
1:12: Conservatism
1:41: Liberalism
2:10: Capitalism
2:43: Centrism
3:06: Anarchism
3:20: Socialism
*LAYER 3: PRETTY COMMON*
3:53: Neoconservatism
4:21: Progressivism
4:47: Nationalism
5:09: Libertarianism
5:27: Marxism-Leninism
5:48: Monarchism
*LAYER 4: POLITICAL COMPASS LORE*
6:12: Stalinism
6:44: Anarcho-Capitalism
7:03: Trotskyism
7:27: Bonapartism
7:42: National Bolshevism
7:59: National Anarchism
*LAYER 5: ANYONE SUPPORTS THESE?*
8:14: Anarcho-Communism
8:50: Anarcho-Primitivism
8:48: Pinochetism
9:16: Transhumanism
9:36: Pol Potism
10:10: -Nazism- Stacheism
*LEVEL 6: GETTING OBSCURE*
11:01: Anarcho-Nihilism
11:16: Queer-Anarchism
11:29: Illegalism
11:39: Anarcho-Libertarian Socialism
12:04: Jihadism
12:23: Corporate Buddhism
*LAYER 6.5: 😂😂*
12:58: National Socialist German
Workers' Pringles
*LAYER 7: SERIOUS!*
13:06: Posadism-Communalism
13:14: Radical Centrism
13:31: Chauvinism
13:48: Anarcho-Nazbol
14:17: Ecofascism
14:33: Anarcho-Monarchism
*LAYER 8: LITERALLY HAVE NO IDEA*
14:53: Accelerationism
15:20: Posadism
16:01: Esoteric -Nazism- Stacheism
16:31: IngSoc
16:42: Hive Mind Collectivism
16:54: Circulus
Marxism-leninism never rejected global revolution, Lenin was passionate about the idea:
*"We see the same picture as we do now in Germany. And there the same dull discontent of the popular masses is growing, which will inevitably result in the forms of a popular movement. We cannot decree the revolution, but we can also contribute to it. We will lead an organized fraternization in the trenches, help the peoples of the West to start an invincible socialist revolution... I firmly believe that in the end the social revolution will win in all civilized countries."*
Stalin never thought of himself as a pretty big deal, in fact it's the opposite, which is, again, evident in his works:
*"I must tell you, comrades, in all conscience, that I did not deserve a good half of the praise that was bestowed on me here... It is unpleasant when exaggerated to hyperbolic dimensions. People get ecstatic over nothing. Out of hundreds of greetings, I only respond to 1-2, I don't allow most of them to be printed, I don't allow too enthusiastic greetings to be printed at all once I find out about them. Nine-tenths of these greetings are really quite tasteless. And they give me unpleasant experiences."*
"Cult of personality" is propaganda that has been enforced during Khrushchev's era.
Issue with Trotsky is that he tried to propagate for global revolution which wasn't possible at the time for destroyed Union. They didn't even have resources to feed their own people after poor Russian Empire.
The guy is obviously clueless to politics as a whole as he thought libertarian socialism was an oxymoron, essentially he is a buffon
@@comrade4309 to be fair he made it clear his take is not a serious one. Issue is that a lot of people in the comments took this video as a literal guide to politics and that's saddening
On that note and to contend with a few of your points, Marxism-Leninism, which is ridiculed by detractors as Stalinism (to reference it being the official state ideology of the U.S.S.R. under Stalin's leadership, insofar as he as an individual led it, which was theoretically laid out by him), is neither Marxist nor Leninist tbh in that it implicitly rejects/fails to uphold principles/perspectives of either, including internationalism in being a nation-state ideology. To further clarify, Leninism, distinct from Marxism-Leninism, could simply be considered a minor, arguably logical development of Marxism/Marxist praxis by Lenin extending to specific conditions beyond Marx's lifetime.
Also, cults of personality can form regardless of one's intentions. Stalin even admits that he apparently had a sort of cult of personality form around him in the second excerpt *you* quoted. It matters not his personal affinity on the matter. The hypocritical error of many lies in their attribution of a 'notorious', 'exceptional' cult of personality around Stalin (who usually _represents_ something they dislike) but simultaneous ignorance (sometimes willful) of the 'cults of personality' they are involved with or support in capitalist society, particularly around certain commodities, beliefs, and political/celebrity figures. Most U.S. presidents have had similar cults of personality to Stalin's, at least in proportion to their years in power, for instance.
The video is pretty nice, but I'd like to clear something up about anarchism. Anarchists don't really believe in abolishing government, but rather the state.
Those are two diffrent things.
A government can be any institution or group that "governs", as in that controls and manages the wealth, information and labor of a society. You could say a board of directors are the "government" of a company, or that silicon valley are the "government" of the internet. Some anarchists even consider something like a family a small government.
Classical anarchists do want to abolish the state in it's current form, but not the concept of government. Govermment and collective decisionmaking will exist in any society. They just want a society in which any government that takes shape features a minimum of authoritarianism, horizontal democratic decisionmaking and without any institutions that hold big monopolies of violence or force, like a police or a military.
Yeah, I was about to say. Anarchism is just the abolition of the state and its use of force to coerce a public to obey arbitrary rules and laws for the benefit of the government. Government itself isn't bad since it helps organize people into action, but anarchism doesn't try to coerce you into doing anything.
One of the best examples for how anarchism can work is what I've heard described as the "shopping cart" test. Once you finish shopping at Walmart or whatever, and you take your shopping cart to your car and empty it. Now, what do you do with the shopping cart? It is 100% legal to just leave it in the parking lot, without putting it in its designated lane. No one is gonna force you to put it anywhere else. Every person that puts the shopping cart in its right place does so unprompted and can thus self-govern greatly. That's what anarchism is: a collection of people who voluntarily make others' lives more convenient by keeping things organized. Anyone who doesn't put the cart back isn't ready to commit to an anarchist society, simply because they can't even be bothered to put it back for the sake of anyone else.
Also, the reason why anarchism has so many ideologies is because we don't have many famous or infamous anarchists. Authoritarians literally have so many names because their policies were carried out successfully. I would happily rename some of the ideologies Bakuninism, Goldmanism, Kropotkinism, Bookchinism, or Turnerism, but that's just me.
Interesting thank you
The ending was entertaining. You should go into more of these crazier ideologies
Aside from the minute of obnoxious Yoshi noises
@@masonjolley-yule3308 yeah true. Editor should quit that
Me: In school
Zeepsterd: uploads
Me: this paper can wait.
Wow, this guy understood none of these ideologies.
As a Brazilian, I was sad not to see "Varguism" listed here. I want to have the right to burn coffee in peace
None of these ideologies are really all that obscure, it's mostly just surface level meme ideologies.
There's a small error at 11:00. You used the third section of the iceberg twice by accident.
Zeep is becoming the new Jreg
JREG 2
Jreg 2 already exists, it's Grej
Anarchoanarchism
YOSHI SOUNDS
I was wondering why egoism was down so low and then i realized i need to go outside
3:03 anarchism advocates for a stateless system not a system without a government
Thank you. I can't believe a basic error like this got included so early on.
@@unknown6390 To be fair anarchism is often misunderstood, and it can be hard to picture a government separated from the modern nation state as we know it today.
My TH-cam recommended has been on point lately
Keep on doing the content it's really cool
Zeep needs to make his own political ideology known as Garfieldism.
Nice background music
Remember me at 10 million Zeepsterd
"You may be a little cautious to subscribe"
*Immediately plays Earthbound music*
I dunno man you drive a really hard bargain
Have you considered separating this into timestamps for each ideology or each part of the iceberg?
y’know circulism has an extremely interesting point behind it. it’s basically what we already do with cows and chickens but applied to humans. hmmm..
Love the music used in this video
Its like Yoshi is disgusted or excited at the lower tiers
I am firmly a libertarian monarchist, basically
"Swear fealty to me you king and god emperor, but like i dont care what you do in your houses, also weed is legal"
Then abolish income tax and fund the crown and government via weed sales
9:37 "Okay, things are getting a little crazy"
Dude you just talked about caveman ideology, cyborg ideology, and a guy who threw his enemies off helicopters. You past crazy.
Transhumanism isn't that wacky, but then again, I am a transhumanist.
@@Lord_Of_Aether Shame, I know of weird stuff but being sexually attracted to washing machine? Thats just bad dude
@@krsmanjovanovic8607 That isn't transhumanism.
@@Lord_Of_Aether Is yanking a computer chip inside your skull and praying to artificial intelligence overlords normal?
@@Lord_Of_Aether *Abominal intelligence
POV: You need to Google "Murray Bookchin"
The most balanced take on these political ideologies that I could think of. You damn centrist
the way you pronounced paganism gave me shivers
"Please turn me into another form of anarchism"
*anarcho-anti-multiple-forms-of-anarchism*
"FUUUUCCCCKKK"
Wake up, honey, Zeepsterd uploaded
there were huge ones left off, syndicalism for example, overall good video
Tfw syndicalism hasnt been relevant for about a century
@@assortedlunatics4381 there are still syndaclists around and its still an extremely important ideology to the history of leftism
@@sapphicana6637 syndicalism is outdated though. Guilds, co-ops, and unions are less powerful than they used to be.
Great video!
inb4 Flying Spaghetti Monster
perhaps
@@max-jk4uu thought this was in reference to religion so perhaps not
glad iceberg videos are getting deep now
I like the use of Zelda music. i think it perfectly matches the topic
You forgot my own ideology
Neo-anarcho-obama's left pinky-ism
I better see the Flying Spaghetti Monster on here
I find most Anarcho ideologies confusing and impossible. But I respect y’all’s opinion
Great video as always but one problem I had was that you used the modern definition of conservatism and the French Revolution era definition of liberalism.
Technically most American conservatives and liberals would fall under the old definition of “liberalism”. Although you pretty much touched on the Democratic Party’s ideals with Progressivism.
As an anarchist,
... I'm sorry.
It's the number one politics sound
Zeepsterd we bout to get down
Where is keeping it weezer? I need more....
May 15th :)
Oooh boy, I can't wait to cross check every ideological detail he gets wrong. Sidenote: Still loving your videos, man.
I could be wrong about this but I think corporate buddhism is just the practice or belief of Buddhism but in the workforce? again I’m probably wrong about this but I’m just assuming that this is what is means
"Enough of anarchy"
Marxism-Leninism doesn't reject worldwide revolution, it just wants to build socialism in one country first and then export the revolution. Every other revolution is likely to fail, due to instability and so on. We want to build a world socialist republic, due to the fact that communism is just achievable worldwide. A lot of MLs generally rely on the ideas of Marx, Engels and Lenin.
Everytime I hear capitalism I think of Max Payne
“Say what you want about us Americans, but we understand capitalism. You get what you pay for!”
- Max Payne (Max Payne 3)
Theodore is rolling in his grave right now
Didn’t know return to monke was a legitimate political ideology.
I’d say, as a libertarian socialist, libertarian socialism is the idea that government should only serve the people, and should be limited as much as possible beyond that.
I’m a libertarian Capitalist but yeah same thing really, state should only protect the people’s rights and nothing more.
this is my favrite is iceberg so far
what, no Falangism?
15:38 posadism is not a form of accelerationism. It pre dates accelerationism by years.
nice job comrade!
Sir please I do believe we need more ideologies explained
We have to many useless ideologies
70% of those ideologies don't work and never will
Anarcho-statism you live in a society that has no society
what's with all the yoshi noises near the end?
WHOOPS MY BAD. WAS ONLY MEANT TO BE ONE YOSHI SOUND. SORRY
00:01 I was genuinely confused why socialist was centre then I realised that it was a chart of Spain
Great video
You forgot total anarchy, which is basically no hierarchy, no capitalism, no state, no leaders, no rules and no laws at all
Loved the jreg clips
What about Human Nationalism?
I unironically want a Human state, it’s not absurd or a particularly crazy ideology, but is strangely mostly unheard of or not taken seriously.
Bro i went from commie to nazi to national bolshevism to homo fashism to neo conservatism to conservatism to progressive then to neo conservatism then to conservatims then to classical liberalism to liberatarianism and then to Anarcho capitalism.
What a time to be alive.
“ I don’t want to live this planet anymore.”
You conflate social democracy with socialism
Anarcho zeepism
the amount of hours you have in garfield kart determines your worth as an individual.
more iceberg
"Hivemind collectivism" is just human instrumentality with less steps
Good job
Are you gonna Release of the green album on its 20th anniversary?
Yes, but don't tell anyone :)
*Transhumanism*
Damn I didn’t know the Combine were real
Good morning Mr Freeman
good video
16:55 Could North Korea be considered in this?!?!
If Senator Armstong and Monsoon aren't mentioned here, I am trully dissapointed
WHY ON ST.PATRICKS DAY?
ANSWER ME ZEEPSTERD
Bonapartism is not just Napoleon but also Napoleon III, who was elected president with a massive majority before declaring himself the 3rd French emperor
next up: the iceberg iceberg
What is the outro jazz tune? Please someone help
The creator of the meme forgot to add minarchy
There are a lot of esoteric fascists who are not Nazis. Esoteric Hitlerism is a completely different ideology from esoteric fascism in much the same way that Nazism is very different from fascism in many ways.
Teddy Roosevelt gang!!
Throat forgot imperialism
Why'd you skip a few on the second to last tier?
Don’t think we didn’t hear the first second of the video
What, no syndicalism? Although I guess that's kind of similar to anarcho-socialism.