Especially if it has both that and a subreddit with a few thousand members has been tried in a country and has sympathies from centrists and well known politicians
@@timisontube depth... Of the iceberg. The further down, the further from reality you travel. We're 2D conceptions moving in a 3D world. Left, right, auth, and lib lose all meaning
It is a little known fact that the passengers of the Titanic were centrists. The captain couldn’t decide whether to swerve and avoid the iceberg or smash into it head on.
The "Unsinkable Molly Brown" handed out oars to the other women in that lifeboat. She showed them how to row so they could keep themselves warm. Cause 'Murica.
Peronism is impossible to define, even for us Argentinians. Their party changed positions so much throughout its existence, and also so many other parties claiming to be peronist were created, it doesn't even make sence sometimes. If we read the basics of the Justicialist Doctrine wrote by Perón himself, it is pretty much fascism, at the same time, we had the peronist right and left movements killing each other in the 70's. PS: They're still in power.
nearly everything in the bottom 4 tiers either doesn’t exist, doesn’t have a solid definition, or it’s meaning is entirely irrelevant and probably no one believes in them. There are quite a few in the middle that are annoying to find a solid definition for tho.
I’d be genuinely interested in a series where jreg just learns about niche political ideologies, don’t care if every episode was an hour long id love it
I think the best part about that is how basically all ideologies in latter tiers were created in jreg's subreddit you did this, jreg you did this to the world
I don't think any of it was, unless he was playing the loooong game. If you go back to some of his older videos, you can see that his house looks exactly like it does in the house tour vid.
It's either he's really living in these conditions or it's some old house of his grandparents or something that he's using for the videos as a bit, can't tell which one is more insane
the fact that "how tall is contrapoints" just pops up when you search for left reactionnary is simultaneously the most logical and the weirdest thing about this whole video
@@wsx3268 The Dashmaster charm that is CLEARLY based off sans design? Even the abilities of the charm hint at this (allowing you to dash further or something, been ages since I played HK) And what does sans do in his battle? Dashes away from your attacks.
@@MC-yg1mq i know every ideology on the regular polcompball wiki and half of the non-self-inserts on PCBA, name an ideology and I can probably describe it
@@nobodyhere2803 i'll bite. I wrote my own manifesto, of which one of my smokebrothers created his own offshoot. Describe to me the differences between post-grehlist grillbertarianism and accelerationist anarchocookoutism
@@nahometesfay1112 Basically Frenchies were triggered that they had to punch cards and alienate themselves for capitalists at work when nowadays it's not our work but our every single daily activities that are quantified and rated by cold inhuman forces, think Zoom classes where you're not allowed to change tabs or even snore or else you're liable to some kind of sanction, or engament metrics for advertisement and social media where they check how long you take to scroll. Situtationists were saying you could be a "Conscientious objector" to Capitalism when Capitalism has been digging into our unconscious since forever and now basically nests there.
I just came up with a new ideology of Marginalism. It's when everyone attempts to be as marginal in their cultural tastes and sensibilities, and as socialy awkward as possible, resulting in social relations breaking down and everyone just trying to stay away from everyone else to just indulge in their own individuality. Any kind of fitting-in, attempts to form collectives or common culture are deemed evil in this ideology, because it sacrifices some of the uniqueness of the individual.
Conforming to the social consensus that consensus is bad is in of itself a common culture- being unable to express one's individuality with other people because of cultural taboos is pretty anti-individualistic. Cool meme ideology though, I could see a culture based on this (Arguably liberal and neoliberal philosophy already has this sort of cultural fetishization of the individual consumer, though)
@@beansworth5694 However there's no need to have a social consensus on this. Individuals who fall into this ideology just marginalize themselves away from other people, maybe to the point of living alone in caves or abandoned anti-missile shelters, without even knowing or caring whether there is or isn't any kind of consensus. Yes there're some surface level commonalities with liberalism, but there's a kind of absolutist moral imperative at play at the metaphysical level which I think separates this one from other ideologies; individuality does not NEED to be expressed in any way, it just IS, it's the bedrock, most important core value; any kind of cultural expression of it requires a degree of conformity and compromise, if only to make it intelligible to other people, and so is to be deemed a moral vice. But I haven't really thought this one through any further in the 5 minutes it took to come up with it :)
Peronism is both left wing and right wing because Perron saw italy, misunderstood everything he saw, became a socialist but called himself a fascist, then became a fascist, and then people called themselves perronist despite the fact that peronism is meaningless.
That genuinely reminds me of ba'athism! Theres something kind of interesting in how these Third Worldist ideologies (ie; established in the cold war period by neither eastern or western blocs) like... do their thing.
"Mussolini was the greatest man of our century, but he committed certain disastrous errors. I, who have the advantage of his precedent before me, shall follow in his footsteps but also avoid his errors." "Italian Fascism led popular organizations to an effective participation in national life, which had always been denied to the people. Before Mussolini’s rise to power, the nation was on one hand and the worker on the other, and the latter had no involvement in the former. In Germany happened exactly the same phenomenon, meaning, an organized state for a perfectly ordered community, for a perfectly ordered population as well: a community where the state was the tool of the nation, whose representation was, under my view, effective. I thought that this should be the future political form, meaning, the true people’s democracy, the true social democracy" Juan Perón
@@hanna-liminal "We lived through this hope, strangers in our society which gradually increased our isolation: rebels against all the old values, enemies to all the conventions of humanity, rejecting all ceremonies, relationships and religions. We sought the fight everywhere we were an unrelenting pickaxe..... We were racialists, admiring Nazism, reading its books and the source of its thought, particularly Nietzsche's Thus Spake Zarathustra, Fichte's Addresses to the German Nation, and H. S. Chamberlain's Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, which revolves on race. We were the first to think of translating Mein Kampf. Whoever has lived during this period in Damascus will appreciate the inclination of the Arab people to Nazism, for Nazism was the power which could serve as its champion, and he who is defeated will by nature love the victor. But our belief was rather different..... We were idealists, basing social relationships on love. The Master [Arsuzi] used to speak about Christ, and I think he was influenced by Nietzsche's The Origin of Tragedy. He took the pre-Islamic period for his ideal, calling it the golden age of the Arabs." Sami al-Jundi Ba'athism & The Justicialism of Perón are both 3rd position, 90% fascism but with differences
@@yikxdf991 can you get me a full citation (date, source, etc) for this al-Jundi (which just means The Soldier, obviously a Kunya) - because thats a super interesting quote! It is also super at odds with the active inclination towards straight up Maoism that many arab ideologies showed in the 1960s/70s (and the ways some of those core ideas would be adapted in 1980s jihadism). It really indicates a very pragmatic approach to picking and choosing from other non-Arab ideologies to support your own ideals and to get international support. I am a historian of the modern middle east so i am not being facetious when i say that this is REALLY interesting to me :D
6:33 i wish you would. If wendigoon can make a 9hr30min video of all parts of his conspiracy theory iceberg review where he goes as in depth as possible and ive seen it in total 3 times now but i lap it up like it came straight from the oneyplays industrial complex, then i will watch a whole 30hr video of you explaining each level and each ideology listed in this iceberg in as much detail as you can manage
There’s an issue with Icebergs where people define the lower tiers as both more messed up and less well known when those things aren’t necessarily correlated. Neoliberalism is basic, but very poorly understood. On a Chris Chan iceberg, the oedipus saga is the most messed up thing, but also the first point of entry for most Chris Chan followers.
Political idealogy iceberg summerized: level 1: Normal, sane person level 2: Get a life level 3: Get a life level 4: Get a life level 5: Get a life level 6: Get a life level 7: Get a life level 8: Get a life level 9: Get a life level 10: Get a life level 11: Get a life level 12: Get a life level 13: Get a life level 14: Your sole purpose is the internet, and the only joy you feel is death.
Some of the stuff on the right-side of level 2 isn't bad. Pirates politics sounds pretty cool and the more libertarian parts are good as well. I agree tho, the rest is trash.
15:27 this had me rolling on the ground. the moment you see a header like that in a table you know it's going to be good. somehow this wasn't too bad tho
@@rickrolld1367 libertarian monarchism (like anmon but not as extremely libertarian), elective monarchism (non-hereditary, elected monarchy), monarcho-socialism (monarchist government but the people own the means of production), social monarchism (where the monarch provides many social programs), monarcho-syndicalism (monarchist government with heavy support for worker unions), and libertarian monarcho-socialism (libmon but the workers own the means of production), and matriarchal monarchism (rule by a queen) disagree.
@@nobodyhere2803 Could add a few more - Tibet's system, where a lama is supreme monarch but selected from among children by mystical means (who knows what to call it), rotating monarchy where it is cycled through various families, the papal model (similar to Tibet's), Andorra's model where a Spanish bishop and the president of France are supreme rulers. Juche has also evolved into monarchy. Here in Scotland we had tanistry, which was a form of elective monarchy, but also involved high kings and sub kings.
For those wondering what ‘Golden Circle’ was in the Historian category, The Golden Circle was a political and economic theory based around the Confederacy that the CSA would conquer Mexico, Cuba, the entirety of the Caribbean, Central America, and the northern coast of South America, and basically turn it into a giant Autarky powered by the slave trade and slave labor. It didn’t get too much traction in the south but you can find maps of this proposed system, and can make it in Hoi4 as well
"Can you count this as an ideology if some 18 year old on discord wrote a manifesto and just threw it out into the wild." As an Esoteric Archeofuturist Culturally Right Wing Agorist who did exactly that I feel personally attacked.
Theodemocracy is basically when the church is in charge, but also you can vote for your local church leaders. There are different flavours, like with representative theodemocracy where in which you vote for your local church leaders, but the national and international leaders are voted by those local church leaders. It's an interesting school of thought
I just wanted to mention one interesting ideology which, I'm sure, wasn't mentioned in the list. It could be called "Ruhnamism". It was actually put into practice in Turkmenistan. It's based on the book "Ruhnama", written by the first Turkmenian president (he was a dictator and made people live according to his will). It contains certain set of rules (9 rules) and ideas invented by the author. I love the last rule from the set - "dress up girls".
The Rural People's party are Juche tankies living in a trailer in Lexington Kentucky and I'm pretty sure they have actually been recognised as based by North Korea, look them up they're a great meme.
Do you mean cheese as in the food product or as in something being cheesy? Because that opens it up to either a society of cyborg lab rats, or an anarchist commune stylized as a 30s sci-fi flick.
How did *AltWoke* go from sounding so dumb to so damn interesting and relevantly complex to the modern times so quickly lmao. Imma read up on this now.
idk what 97% of these terms mean, even the top level, so I'm completely clueless. But the pretty colors flashing on my screen is stimulating my monkey brain, so I think I'll keep watching.
@@nobodyhere2803 - I've been watching Jreg for about a year now. Vast majority of his jokes fly over my head entirely. I just like his editing and personality.
Pretty sure Fordism is more centered on the hypothetical society laid out in Huxley's "Brave New World" (given the importance of the character of Henry Ford in the novel's setting) rather than the actual business philosophy of Henry Ford, but I could be misinterpreting what the iceberg maker meant.
0:39 "I'm not sure hating a group of people constitutes a political ideology." Wait are you saying that SJW cringe compilation #37 isn't a good basis for my ideology?
@@ihatefridays2715 Nah Twitter is whatever you want it to be, but when you click on the trending page you find some wild people like “I wish everyone would eat babies” or something and people will agree and you just sit down and read in surprise and confusion
Is where every aspect of society is defined by the winner of a street race. The Fast & Furious is a great representation of this ideology in which Vin Diesel was the absolute ruler.
Kind of fucked up that the 4th tier was like, normal things at this point for the people I talk to. I want to be normal. I dont want to talk to people with sun light deficiencies
You'll see no monarchism on this tier list, that is because all monarchist ideologies are blessed with the Holy Mandate from God/gods/Lovecraftian aberation and therefore so based that they are above the iceberg and reside in the higher realms.
14:09 Ilminism was actually a thing, and put into practice. As a Korean I think I've somewhat learnt it in my national history class in high school.. So long story short, 1. Ilminism is Korean Facism practiced in 1950s. 2. Liberal party is nowhere liberal, the rightwing authoritarians just wanted to have a nice name. And here's my explanation. Following the Pacific War, Korea was liberated from JP rule, only to be militarily occupied by US and Soviets. During the occupation, right wing politicians including Rhee remained in South, and they had to figure out how to unify the peninsula and run the nation when the occupation is over. Ilminism focuses on the Korean "ethnicity" in order to make Korea(South for now, but hopefully unified) a functioning nation state. Everyone with Korean ethnicity shall be treated equally, without discrimination upon sex, region of birth, etc. The president is responsible for guiding his people and taking the principle into policies in order to construct national unity based on Korean ethnicism. So Jreg kinda got it right, it is somewhat of a Korean facism. Ilminism is practiced by president Rhee, until the dictator was impeached in 1960. Following presidents of Korea didn't really care about the Ilminist policies, so it has been forgotten anyways. Nowadays no right wing authoritarians really remember the idea after their high school history class exams. And by the way, Rhee's "Liberal" Party was not liberal at all, while their opponent Democratic Party wasn't quite pro-democratic. After naming the ruling ideology of South Korea "liberal democracy", the politicians wanted to have names that fits with what their ideologies should be.
Some of these would make great band names. For instance; Slime Mould Cultism, Liquid Labor Theory, Zenarchism, CopyLeft, Unterrified Jeffersonianism, SCUM, Golden Circle, No Wave Economics, Fern The Humanism, Acid E.U. Also, Idk what the Free Market of Cults is, but I sure want to find out.
S.C.U.M. Gang is a rap collective out of Brooklyn that was frequently shouted out by Tekashi 69. Mostly composed of former/current Crips unsuccessfully trying to break into entertainment/fashion/music.
I think jreg is a centrist accelarationist. Here me out, he constantly talks about how he wants more radicalization, but also talks about the different sides all coming together and naturally centrism and accelarationism are polar opposites
LOL just imagine a maoist calling democracy "wacky" just because he didn't grew up in a democracy. Isn't any political ideology wacky if you aren't used to it?
That's how it works. Imagine how wacky we would be if esoteric fascism was the status quo? Neoliberalism would be like am ancient ideology that nobody believed and thought its too old and lame
I was confused about how Xeno-feminism is so down low, but then I realised I needed to go outside.
Time for Praxis
What?
@@ima7144 Don't go outside
There be monsters out there.
Edit: _yoooo,_ this got pinned.
If outsideness is unkind, change outsideness .
I felt the same for anarcho-syndicalism, I need a fucking life
If it has a Wikipedia page it’s not extreme enough
If it exist irl it’s not extreme enough
#realicide
Ever read the slap fights in the edit history of a wikipage?
Especially if it has both that and a subreddit with a few thousand members has been tried in a country and has sympathies from centrists and well known politicians
If it has at least one result in a google search then it's basically mainstream
Jreg before: comedy, irony, sketches.
Jreg now: *so we have some Buddhist infighting in here*
speaking of Buddhist infighting th-cam.com/video/cWQnkAA-OiE/w-d-xo.html
based
@@devlynwavis5480 just watched this. thank you for the experience. it was uncomfortable
As a buddhist let me tell you...
All we do is infight.
Attitude toward Jews
I hate sand, its coarse and rough and gets into my political ideologies
Oh hi dad
Henlo spicy boi
oxide get back into squad theres a big update
Odd how you find those who produce content you like commenting under other creators with content you like. Almost like they like the same stuff.
ha, haileverythingrussoprimitivist also here.
I love how left and right start disappearing the deeper it goes.
Descending neither left nor right
As it should be anti Centrist unity !!! (Dies of Dust poisoning)
@@timisontube is it really centrism? You're basically moving down a third axis
Nah I was referencing Anticentrism, an old bit on the channel. I do wonder what this third axis is - wackiness? Obscurity?
@@timisontube depth... Of the iceberg. The further down, the further from reality you travel. We're 2D conceptions moving in a 3D world. Left, right, auth, and lib lose all meaning
It is a little known fact that the passengers of the Titanic were centrists. The captain couldn’t decide whether to swerve and avoid the iceberg or smash into it head on.
"well the way I see it, there's no difference between *hitting* the iceberg and *not hitting* the iceberg"
@@rhysdenno5993 schrodingers iceberg
They compromised and only smashed one side of the ship into the iceberg.
The "Unsinkable Molly Brown" handed out oars to the other women in that lifeboat. She showed them how to row so they could keep themselves warm. Cause 'Murica.
ahahahahah I very much enjoyed this comment
“You can’t just hate a group of people and call it an ideology, right my anti-centrist friends”
based
@@Jackie_Shriek based? Based on what?
@@Paddy656 Foundation
@@gayanudugampola8973 Based
I just noticed
Peronism is impossible to define, even for us Argentinians. Their party changed positions so much throughout its existence, and also so many other parties claiming to be peronist were created, it doesn't even make sence sometimes.
If we read the basics of the Justicialist Doctrine wrote by Perón himself, it is pretty much fascism, at the same time, we had the peronist right and left movements killing each other in the 70's.
PS: They're still in power.
And Argentina has become a complete hellhole*
@@thioga1 and it always was*
Aguante Alberto, lloren losgorilas
Peron was a Nazbol confirmed
What's a PD?
I want like a 5 hour vid that explains EVERY ideology in there.
nearly everything in the bottom 4 tiers either doesn’t exist, doesn’t have a solid definition, or it’s meaning is entirely irrelevant and probably no one believes in them. There are quite a few in the middle that are annoying to find a solid definition for tho.
I’d be genuinely interested in a series where jreg just learns about niche political ideologies, don’t care if every episode was an hour long id love it
I think the best part about that is how basically all ideologies in latter tiers were created in jreg's subreddit
you did this, jreg
you did this to the world
laughs in polcompball anarchy wiki
@@nobodyhere2803 aye this be the real culprit.
Reddit moment
do you feel like a hero yet?
that's just accelerationism accelerationism, my friend
Freddie Mercury expressed his Anti-Natalist beliefs when he sang, "I don't wanna die; sometimes I wish I'd never been born at all."
Smh some people just HAVE to bring politics into song
@@Britishdarnlib Sucks that I’m conservative and Green Day happens to be one of my favorite bands.
@@theegreenone ok thanks for sharing
@@theegreenone at least you are not a RATM fan, that would be hilarious.
Morrissey sang "I think about life and I think about death, and neither one particularly appeals to me." Same vibe
I did *not* just read "Steven Universe Style Imperialism"
*DID NOT*
Sexually-motivated soylent green
The primary reason I defend trans rights
"we just needed a reason to fuse"
suffering
That one's actually a real historical ideology.
It's okay Jreg, I'm from Argentina and we don't even know what Peronism is.
Destroying the economy, a new leader every few months, and eternal admiration for Eva Peron, the spiritual leader of the nation...
I know what it is. Based.
It’s Italian Third Positionism, but social democrats and neoliberals ruined it.
"You may not like it, but this is some of the most relevant descriptions of the system we live in"
On-screen: *glossary entry for the word "cuck"*
Reading altwoke is wild man but jreg was not wrong
Holy shit his setup really wasn't a joke
I don't think any of it was, unless he was playing the loooong game. If you go back to some of his older videos, you can see that his house looks exactly like it does in the house tour vid.
It's either he's really living in these conditions or it's some old house of his grandparents or something that he's using for the videos as a bit, can't tell which one is more insane
Just because it's real doesn't mean it's not a joke
it really is hard to tell sometimes where his irony ends and begins lmao
@@atryan1125 That's how he lives, his depression clown makes sure of it
the fact that "how tall is contrapoints" just pops up when you search for left reactionnary is simultaneously the most logical and the weirdest thing about this whole video
How tall is she tho?
@@SoVidushi at least 6 ft
@@audreymcknight slayy
Imagine being the person who made this and being so excited about this video and Jreg just dunks on you the whole time.
The combination of your sanscharm pfp and your use of the word dunk made me laugh
@@smitefulaxe1344 It’s not supposed to be sans, it’s the dashmaster charm from Hollow Knight.
@@wsx3268 it does actually look a little bit like Sans.
@@wsx3268 yeah it's a joke in the community of hk
@@wsx3268 The Dashmaster charm that is CLEARLY based off sans design? Even the abilities of the charm hint at this (allowing you to dash further or something, been ages since I played HK) And what does sans do in his battle? Dashes away from your attacks.
Ideology: *argues for strategically planned genocide*
Also Ideology: *argues for economic segregation*
JrEg: "Surprisingly Based."
_"You know...free the Lobsters man, why do they gotta be in....why do they gotta be in cages?"_ - funny politics man, 2021
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Who needs a Political Science degree when you can just look at an iceberg.
Pretty radical for my taste
@@kilianp123 what are you a centrist?
@@sovietunion7643 actually he is so based he rounded back into centrism, so he is a...uh...well, i dont....wait....uh, im gonna go take a walk.
Who needs political science
Punchline
My favorite ideology is Dust #2
You know it’s bad when even Jreg hasn’t heard of a lot of these ideologies
It's really sad that I knew more of them than he did.
@@nobodyhere2803 How deep you are bro
@@MC-yg1mq i know every ideology on the regular polcompball wiki and half of the non-self-inserts on PCBA, name an ideology and I can probably describe it
@@nobodyhere2803 i'll bite. I wrote my own manifesto, of which one of my smokebrothers created his own offshoot.
Describe to me the differences between post-grehlist grillbertarianism and accelerationist anarchocookoutism
In that case, it'd be sad if he knew about more of them than you.
situationists are unironically like "oversleeping and not going to work is the ultimate form of praxis, hell yeah", based asf
So you're saying I AM being productive? hmm...
that aged awfully when you think about it.
@@MrCrashDavi Wait what aged awfully?
@@nahometesfay1112 Basically Frenchies were triggered that they had to punch cards and alienate themselves for capitalists at work when nowadays it's not our work but our every single daily activities that are quantified and rated by cold inhuman forces, think Zoom classes where you're not allowed to change tabs or even snore or else you're liable to some kind of sanction, or engament metrics for advertisement and social media where they check how long you take to scroll. Situtationists were saying you could be a "Conscientious objector" to Capitalism when Capitalism has been digging into our unconscious since forever and now basically nests there.
@@nahometesfay1112 Also Zoomers not being able to tell Content from Ads (Tom Scott did a video about it)
As an Argentine you never stop to really appreciate how wacky Peronism is.
I just came up with a new ideology of Marginalism. It's when everyone attempts to be as marginal in their cultural tastes and sensibilities, and as socialy awkward as possible, resulting in social relations breaking down and everyone just trying to stay away from everyone else to just indulge in their own individuality. Any kind of fitting-in, attempts to form collectives or common culture are deemed evil in this ideology, because it sacrifices some of the uniqueness of the individual.
Conforming to the social consensus that consensus is bad is in of itself a common culture-
being unable to express one's individuality with other people because of cultural taboos is pretty anti-individualistic. Cool meme ideology though, I could see a culture based on this
(Arguably liberal and neoliberal philosophy already has this sort of cultural fetishization of the individual consumer, though)
@@beansworth5694 However there's no need to have a social consensus on this. Individuals who fall into this ideology just marginalize themselves away from other people, maybe to the point of living alone in caves or abandoned anti-missile shelters, without even knowing or caring whether there is or isn't any kind of consensus. Yes there're some surface level commonalities with liberalism, but there's a kind of absolutist moral imperative at play at the metaphysical level which I think separates this one from other ideologies; individuality does not NEED to be expressed in any way, it just IS, it's the bedrock, most important core value; any kind of cultural expression of it requires a degree of conformity and compromise, if only to make it intelligible to other people, and so is to be deemed a moral vice. But I haven't really thought this one through any further in the 5 minutes it took to come up with it :)
Anarcho-antisocialism
This description of a very real phenomenon has
Merit
ironic that the "longer than your attention span" line comes at 6 minutes which is like 7 minutes later than the average youtube viewer attention span
Sure, there's a lot of confusing ideologies. But the most confusing part of this video is Jreg seeming like a regular, sane, human being.
Tbh, yeah, my strongest thought through this video was „Wait, so he CAN act like a normal person towards us sometimes!“
Peronism is both left wing and right wing because Perron saw italy, misunderstood everything he saw, became a socialist but called himself a fascist, then became a fascist, and then people called themselves perronist despite the fact that peronism is meaningless.
alzheimerism
That genuinely reminds me of ba'athism! Theres something kind of interesting in how these Third Worldist ideologies (ie; established in the cold war period by neither eastern or western blocs) like... do their thing.
"Mussolini was the greatest man of our century, but he committed certain disastrous errors. I, who have the advantage of his precedent before me, shall follow in his footsteps but also avoid his errors."
"Italian Fascism led popular organizations to an effective participation in national life, which had always been denied to the people. Before Mussolini’s rise to power, the nation was on one hand and the worker on the other, and the latter had no involvement in the former. In Germany happened exactly the same phenomenon, meaning, an organized state for a perfectly ordered community, for a perfectly ordered population as well: a community where the state was the tool of the nation, whose representation was, under my view, effective. I thought that this should be the future political form, meaning, the true people’s democracy, the true social democracy"
Juan Perón
@@hanna-liminal "We lived through this hope, strangers in our society which gradually increased our isolation: rebels against all the old values, enemies to all the conventions of humanity, rejecting all ceremonies, relationships and religions. We sought the fight everywhere we were an unrelenting pickaxe.....
We were racialists, admiring Nazism, reading its books and the source of its thought, particularly Nietzsche's Thus Spake Zarathustra, Fichte's Addresses to the German Nation, and H. S. Chamberlain's Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, which revolves on race. We were the first to think of translating Mein Kampf.
Whoever has lived during this period in Damascus will appreciate the inclination of the Arab people to Nazism, for Nazism was the power which could serve as its champion, and he who is defeated will by nature love the victor. But our belief was rather different.....
We were idealists, basing social relationships on love. The Master [Arsuzi] used to speak about Christ, and I think he was influenced by Nietzsche's The Origin of Tragedy. He took the pre-Islamic period for his ideal, calling it the golden age of the Arabs."
Sami al-Jundi
Ba'athism & The Justicialism of Perón are both 3rd position, 90% fascism but with differences
@@yikxdf991 can you get me a full citation (date, source, etc) for this al-Jundi (which just means The Soldier, obviously a Kunya) - because thats a super interesting quote!
It is also super at odds with the active inclination towards straight up Maoism that many arab ideologies showed in the 1960s/70s (and the ways some of those core ideas would be adapted in 1980s jihadism).
It really indicates a very pragmatic approach to picking and choosing from other non-Arab ideologies to support your own ideals and to get international support.
I am a historian of the modern middle east so i am not being facetious when i say that this is REALLY interesting to me :D
6:33 i wish you would. If wendigoon can make a 9hr30min video of all parts of his conspiracy theory iceberg review where he goes as in depth as possible and ive seen it in total 3 times now but i lap it up like it came straight from the oneyplays industrial complex, then i will watch a whole 30hr video of you explaining each level and each ideology listed in this iceberg in as much detail as you can manage
There’s an issue with Icebergs where people define the lower tiers as both more messed up and less well known when those things aren’t necessarily correlated. Neoliberalism is basic, but very poorly understood. On a Chris Chan iceberg, the oedipus saga is the most messed up thing, but also the first point of entry for most Chris Chan followers.
“The Koreans were definitely the Nazis of the Asians”-Jreg, 2021
Spit my damn drink out at that 😂😂😂
Nihon
Then what are the Japanese?
@@thesmm2311 As an EU4 player, they were definitely Prussians.
@@thesmm2311 what i was thinking smh
the age counter is just a tragic reminder that jreg spends his prime years reading wikipedia articles on dead ideologies
Self agesim in Praxis. When he gets old enough, he'll stop caring about his own opinion.
Oof
anyone know where to get it?
Political idealogy iceberg summerized:
level 1: Normal, sane person
level 2: Get a life
level 3: Get a life
level 4: Get a life
level 5: Get a life
level 6: Get a life
level 7: Get a life
level 8: Get a life
level 9: Get a life
level 10: Get a life
level 11: Get a life
level 12: Get a life
level 13: Get a life
level 14: Your sole purpose is the internet, and the only joy you feel is death.
Some of the stuff on the right-side of level 2 isn't bad. Pirates politics sounds pretty cool and the more libertarian parts are good as well. I agree tho, the rest is trash.
I too think that both Stalinism and Anti-Semitism is what a sane person could and should reconsider to practice.
Trotskyism based
@@wehavebiscuits trotskyism is based in the same way heatstroke is healthy.
Once you hit Level 15, you revert back to a normal political ideology in another dimension.
15:27 this had me rolling on the ground. the moment you see a header like that in a table you know it's going to be good. somehow this wasn't too bad tho
Raycon knows how to market, seriously. They choose their sponsors so well
15:22
"yeah sounds like socialism"
*dramatic pause *
OH NO
Wow jreg, you showed those regular, sane people whos boss!
Your pfp is kinda sick
@@austin5944 yeah😳it is
@@austin5944 sic semper tyrantis
@@LF-ni3iv yeah
So many ideologies that are in use around the world are missing here, even the basic monarchist ideologies RIP
No iluminati ideology
But there are only like 3 monarchist ideologies:
Absolute monarchism,
Anarcho Monarchism,
And Constitutional Monarchism.
No non-euclidian georgism
Why live
@@rickrolld1367 libertarian monarchism (like anmon but not as extremely libertarian), elective monarchism (non-hereditary, elected monarchy), monarcho-socialism (monarchist government but the people own the means of production), social monarchism (where the monarch provides many social programs), monarcho-syndicalism (monarchist government with heavy support for worker unions), and libertarian monarcho-socialism (libmon but the workers own the means of production), and matriarchal monarchism (rule by a queen) disagree.
@@nobodyhere2803 Could add a few more - Tibet's system, where a lama is supreme monarch but selected from among children by mystical means (who knows what to call it), rotating monarchy where it is cycled through various families, the papal model (similar to Tibet's), Andorra's model where a Spanish bishop and the president of France are supreme rulers. Juche has also evolved into monarchy.
Here in Scotland we had tanistry, which was a form of elective monarchy, but also involved high kings and sub kings.
For those wondering what ‘Golden Circle’ was in the Historian category, The Golden Circle was a political and economic theory based around the Confederacy that the CSA would conquer Mexico, Cuba, the entirety of the Caribbean, Central America, and the northern coast of South America, and basically turn it into a giant Autarky powered by the slave trade and slave labor. It didn’t get too much traction in the south but you can find maps of this proposed system, and can make it in Hoi4 as well
God, I really hope Futacracy is the "something else." Don't judge my degeneracy.
I can and will
I can and I will
i can and will
Damn. I could get behind the other kind.
Anarcho dust sounds like dune without any of the people. Just spice
Anarcho-Dust is the primary political ideology after the realization of a Grey Goo Scenario.
@@Wertsir giant enemy spider
Paradise on Space.
"Can you count this as an ideology if some 18 year old on discord wrote a manifesto and just threw it out into the wild." As an Esoteric Archeofuturist Culturally Right Wing Agorist who did exactly that I feel personally attacked.
Theodemocracy is basically when the church is in charge, but also you can vote for your local church leaders. There are different flavours, like with representative theodemocracy where in which you vote for your local church leaders, but the national and international leaders are voted by those local church leaders. It's an interesting school of thought
Sounds like Theocracy and/or Christian Democracy w/ extra steps...
I like that Jreg is making more educational videos recently. I think that's a very noble thing and I always learn something new in every video.
This thing is like the horoscope but for people who never left their house.
Anyone notice the fact Jreg's default new window is a timer for his age
holy shit
huh
yeah i did too
i just set my default page to the one he's using
its kind of terrifying to watch tick up
@@matthewwynn3025 What page is?
@@marioi.carrillo6264 it's an extension for google chrome called "motivation"
I feel like anarcho-syndicalism was 1 spot too low, but I also have never seen a woman before in my life.
yeah, i think ho chi minh thought was too, considering it's the official ideology of vietnam
Cute
Alternate title:
Jreg uses google, because you're too lazy
based
Based on yo' mama
@@banan9782 you showed em who's boss
@@banan9782 gg😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I just wanted to mention one interesting ideology which, I'm sure, wasn't mentioned in the list. It could be called "Ruhnamism". It was actually put into practice in Turkmenistan. It's based on the book "Ruhnama", written by the first Turkmenian president (he was a dictator and made people live according to his will). It contains certain set of rules (9 rules) and ideas invented by the author. I love the last rule from the set - "dress up girls".
This really makes me think about the economic growth of Bulgaria in a whole new light, thanks Jreg.
The Rural People's party are Juche tankies living in a trailer in Lexington Kentucky and I'm pretty sure they have actually been recognised as based by North Korea, look them up they're a great meme.
Unironically support for them
I found their website, and I actually think all the Jim Jones stuff is even weirder than the Juche stuff.
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they also have connections to O9A satanism and hare krishna and jim jones cultism lol
This so inaccurate. Like they don't even have cheese anarcho-transuhanism smh
not to get political but what is cheese?
WHAT IS CHEESE IN RESPECT TO POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES????
Do you mean cheese as in the food product or as in something being cheesy? Because that opens it up to either a society of cyborg lab rats, or an anarchist commune stylized as a 30s sci-fi flick.
I identify as cheese anarcho-transhumanism
dairy based
I'm actually suprised I recognized some of the ideologies Jreg said he didn't. I don't know if it's good or bad that was enough to make me happy.
same
How did *AltWoke* go from sounding so dumb to so damn interesting and relevantly complex to the modern times so quickly lmao. Imma read up on this now.
idk what 97% of these terms mean, even the top level, so I'm completely clueless. But the pretty colors flashing on my screen is stimulating my monkey brain, so I think I'll keep watching.
even the top level? is this the first jreg video you have ever watched? I think he covered up to lvl 3
@@nobodyhere2803 - I've been watching Jreg for about a year now. Vast majority of his jokes fly over my head entirely. I just like his editing and personality.
@@gwen_gets_got just confused how you don't know these things, jreg covers shit like posadism and anarcho syndicalism in lots of his videos
I love this comment
Pretty sure Fordism is more centered on the hypothetical society laid out in Huxley's "Brave New World" (given the importance of the character of Henry Ford in the novel's setting) rather than the actual business philosophy of Henry Ford, but I could be misinterpreting what the iceberg maker meant.
The polcompball wiki only lists Fordism as it was in Brave New World, so you’re probably not misinterpreting this
yeah fordism is a brave new world reference
0:39 "I'm not sure hating a group of people constitutes a political ideology."
Wait are you saying that SJW cringe compilation #37 isn't a good basis for my ideology?
It's Twitter's motto.
@@Web720 Wouldn't Twitter be the opposite?
Its the only true basis for a ideology lol
@@ihatefridays2715 Nah Twitter is whatever you want it to be, but when you click on the trending page you find some wild people like “I wish everyone would eat babies” or something and people will agree and you just sit down and read in surprise and confusion
@ihatefridays2715 well now Twitter is uhh.... different
Ah yes my favorite ideology, *racism.*
desab
Based.
Noice.
Is where every aspect of society is defined by the winner of a street race. The Fast & Furious is a great representation of this ideology in which Vin Diesel was the absolute ruler.
@@punkhazzard7248 Based.
Jregs "And the answer is yes" is now my alert for texts and notifications.
As one of the dozen or so extant geo-anarchists, I would like to thank you for acknowledging my existence.
I like how he introduces a Reddit post like Steve Irwin introducing some exotic reptile
Just seeing that age counter gave me anxiety
That’s why I believe in Anarcho-time. Every time is tea time. And a very merry unbirthday to you.
Tea time? You and your anglo-temporality...
Alt right be like:
Berg, you say?
Hmmmmm, interesting
Mike Enoch: here's the thing about icebergs...
alban?
berger
@@RafaelR-F somehow I'm not sure fascists would like our boy Alban
Wait till they learn about the hamberger, their faces when:
Jreg wearing earbuds to read wikipedia articles is the true accelerationist
LE PATRON!!
HON HON HON we put LSD in le water supply
First time i've ever seen you talk about pirate politics, as a pirate myself I am honored
Kind of fucked up that the 4th tier was like, normal things at this point for the people I talk to. I want to be normal. I dont want to talk to people with sun light deficiencies
We should all collectively spend our earned capital and acquire a life comrade
The fourth tier represents things I know but that would screw me over if the people I am speaking to realize it.
@@AAhmou gotta talk to better people ngl. Or worse people. People that will accept that you know
@Penderyn Lewsyn no shit
You'll see no monarchism on this tier list, that is because all monarchist ideologies are blessed with the Holy Mandate from God/gods/Lovecraftian aberation and therefore so based that they are above the iceberg and reside in the higher realms.
14:09 Ilminism was actually a thing, and put into practice. As a Korean I think I've somewhat learnt it in my national history class in high school.. So long story short,
1. Ilminism is Korean Facism practiced in 1950s.
2. Liberal party is nowhere liberal, the rightwing authoritarians just wanted to have a nice name.
And here's my explanation.
Following the Pacific War, Korea was liberated from JP rule, only to be militarily occupied by US and Soviets. During the occupation, right wing politicians including Rhee remained in South, and they had to figure out how to unify the peninsula and run the nation when the occupation is over.
Ilminism focuses on the Korean "ethnicity" in order to make Korea(South for now, but hopefully unified) a functioning nation state. Everyone with Korean ethnicity shall be treated equally, without discrimination upon sex, region of birth, etc. The president is responsible for guiding his people and taking the principle into policies in order to construct national unity based on Korean ethnicism. So Jreg kinda got it right, it is somewhat of a Korean facism.
Ilminism is practiced by president Rhee, until the dictator was impeached in 1960.
Following presidents of Korea didn't really care about the Ilminist policies, so it has been forgotten anyways. Nowadays no right wing authoritarians really remember the idea after their high school history class exams.
And by the way, Rhee's "Liberal" Party was not liberal at all, while their opponent Democratic Party wasn't quite pro-democratic. After naming the ruling ideology of South Korea "liberal democracy", the politicians wanted to have names that fits with what their ideologies should be.
This is the video that introduced me to Jreg and political ideology... thank you?
6:25 I’m a runner. Does that make me an accelerationist situationist?
Watching your life slip away a second at a time? Jesus Jreginald that’s horrifying
that's actually pretty cool I want to do the same anyone have the link?
Yeah does someone knows program?
@@akifgunay6650 buldum bro. motivation on chrome store
Nothing compares to the feeling I get when there's a new 20+ minute Yale Journal of Regulation video
I need to get an interview with a dust anarchist, i'm sure they're beliefs are truly the way forward
I think they're a bit *wishy-washy* sometimes
@@truther249 oh hoho that's a good one.
They beleive in people who bite the dust
No gods no masters, and no dustbrushes, let the state collect dust and not be able to brush it off
Jreg, I watched a 7 hour youtube in 2 takes, I am ready for a full iceberg dive
i need a 24h livestream of jreg searching all of these and completing the ones that don't have any results
>I don't know Pirate Politics
A ship is now gliding to your location from space, you are now doomed
Some of these would make great band names. For instance; Slime Mould Cultism, Liquid Labor Theory, Zenarchism, CopyLeft, Unterrified Jeffersonianism, SCUM, Golden Circle, No Wave Economics, Fern The Humanism, Acid E.U.
Also, Idk what the Free Market of Cults is, but I sure want to find out.
S.C.U.M. Gang is a rap collective out of Brooklyn that was frequently shouted out by Tekashi 69. Mostly composed of former/current Crips unsuccessfully trying to break into entertainment/fashion/music.
heyy jreg just wanna let you know that having a clock of your age down to 5 decimal points isnt healthy.... whats the link tho bud
It's probably for forex trading.
I think jreg is a centrist accelarationist. Here me out, he constantly talks about how he wants more radicalization, but also talks about the different sides all coming together and naturally centrism and accelarationism are polar opposites
Making that the definition of ANTI-centrism
Kinda surprised you didn't know what the pirate party is
My dad was asked to be their official party member or leader or something (in Finland)
How big is the party?
@@mrtoasteer3561 Quite small
A friend of mine is in the city council for the Pirate Party. They actually get elected locally sometimes.
@@mrtoasteer3561 In Czechia its the second largest party in the lower parlament(Chamber of Deputies) but it has only 22/200 seats tho
@@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken Yeah, in Finland there have been 2
like to see Jreg is still using boxes instead of a table
LOL just imagine a maoist calling democracy "wacky" just because he didn't grew up in a democracy. Isn't any political ideology wacky if you aren't used to it?
That's how it works. Imagine how wacky we would be if esoteric fascism was the status quo? Neoliberalism would be like am ancient ideology that nobody believed and thought its too old and lame
Wackiness is the opposite of the status quo, that’s why the only true anti-centrism is wacky anti-centrism, where you only tolerate wacky ideologies.
What’s “wacky” is what’s considered “real” or “normal,” actually...
@@truther249 I wish
The fact that for the whole part of my life I didn't know you refer these words as Ideology makes me wanna redo my life
This is so relieving. I thought you were the expert, Mark. But since you don't know half the shit going on either that comforts me.
The supermarket of ideologies is having a clearance.
EVERYTHING MUST GOOOOO!!!!!
Alternative title: Jreg films himself reading Wikipedia articles for 20 minutes
HE CAN'T READ HE WON'T READ
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Glad to see Greg still hasn't replaced his Carboard box monitor mount
I don't know what Futarchy is, but if my browser history is anything to go by I'm probably a devout believer.
Have you ever read a omegaverse story?
That but there are only girls that have caves or wieners.
I started crying half-way through this video
the most unrealistic part of this video is that the tiktoks will be 30 seconds
Why do you know so much about these
Why do I know so much about these
What are any of us actually doing
INTPs be like
INTP moment
How did the creator even find some of these when the only information about the ideology is a subreddit with 4 members
This mans says I don’t have the attention span for it, when I could watch all 11 star wars films with only the subtitles on and the volume muted.
Here in the Czech Republic the next party in power is probably gonna be the Pirate Party, guess I'll have to get me a musketoon
I was considering skipping a bit when he said I didn't have the attention-span for him going in-depth... Fucking call-outs
That Chrome age counter makes me incredibly anxious
I thought the house tour was fake. But seeing that background, oh no
the stoping and showing on peron made me proud, thanx Jreg.
I dont understand how anyone could sponsor jreg and expect the ad to sound serious
Jreg, one of TH-cam's greatest iceberg review channels.