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00:00 - Intro
00:53 - DaVinci Resolve 19
06:03 - Ursa Cine
13:22 - PYXIS 6K - บันเทิง
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the PYXIS will sell like the 4k. An inexpensive run stop handle and a touch control monitor and boom!!
It’s Christmas for us Blackmagic Fan boys 🎉
Christmas came... late? or Early? Who cares Blackmagic rules!
For us* 😂
@@ConstructionKroniesa bit later, but finally haha.
Fanboys, fangirls and fanNBs 😂
I just wished they brought this out at the end of the company tax year not the start xD
The URSA Cine 17K camera blew my mind. Now we have three digital cameras that comes close to true IMAX
Yep, with fast lenses and this much dynamic range… it’ll be easy to come close to that IMAX “wide-yet-shallow” looking image.
Internal ND would've been the icing on the cake. Still getting it as soon as I can tho lol
they did the side monitor just to prove to all those box people all these years why the pocket design had to be wide for a reason XD
Haha! 🙂
I love that the usb-c ports are locking ports.
I hate this USB c shit
@@whoiam3410make a better open standard. I'm waiting
@@whoiam3410 usb c is for cloud stuff
Totally blown away. Stunned. I think there is no one out there who watched the stream that was expecting this much!
3 things you could ask them about:
-Camera control from Video Assist (Especially important now, so you could rig a VideoAssist on top of the new box camera and use that as control monitor in certain scenarios).
When Portkeys can do it, why not BMD??
-A lower end OVF for like 500€-700€. The new one seems good, but i just need a good enough solution, not a high end cinema quality one that cost nearly as much as the new Box camera. The options on the market are so bad quality/buggy, outdated and or overpriced.
-Adding WIFI to future cameras, so phones can finally be used as wireless monitors.
(the bigger) BP-U batteries can power the FX6 for ~3+ hours - they are no joke. Much nicer than a massive battery hanging off the back of the camera
BP-U batteries are pretty affordable these days, plus they can act as a redundant power when a V-mount is plugged in at the same time.
they can protrude a lot though, my U98 extends like 5 cm outside the body.
@@KPOPPERjp You can use a smaller one and still mount a V mount at the back via 15mm rail.
@@frankfeng2701 I got mine 2nd hand for cheap ($50) so I jumped on that quickly. I still use a v-mount as well for my Ninja V and FX6 if it happens to run low on juice.
I'm quite sure the fx6 is a much lower power camera. But even if we get ~100 mins that would be great
This wil be great for Zoom calls with my friends.
I wouldn't be too disappointed about the 13 stops of dynamic range. Most FF cinema cameras claim higher dynamic range but when put through lab tests that all cut off at 13 stops. Only Arri gets beyond 14. What you're dealing with is the S-curve in regards to highlight roll-off and where middle grey sits.
Even the beloved FX3 has only 12.7 (gerald undone Video) even though they claim it's 15.. So 13 is just fine. :)
Yep, Blackmagic is very conservative in their DR rating. The stops they advertise is usually what you can ACTUALLY get. Other companies use noise-reduction and other pre-processing to advertise an extra 1-2 stops.
@@david_garibaldi this 100%. CineD has done lab tests similar to Geralds that have clocked the FX6 right around 12.6, while the 6K full frame on the same lab test has shown 12.9. DR claims are typically just a gimmick with the exception of ARRI.
Dude.. my 16 steps dr Komodo x‘s dynamic range is a true killer of the 13
@@d_FLDE I’ve used many Reds including Komodo… and even the Pocket 6K was about the same. Red is notorious for overrating DR by 2-3 stops.
The fixed screen on the side combined with the EVF, means that it's ideal for shoulder rig operation. Just make sure to put on a good screen protector.
Seriously especially if it’s in a bag with other accessories that can bump it or run up against it!
They should make a monitor for the PYXIS that would connect to the viewfinder port in the front - that would solve multiple issues raised here and in the comments (expensive EVF, lack of a top screen, etc.)
This is probably the best modern camera for vlogs
The people working on that box cam mod for the Pocket 6k must be having a bad day....
He actually made a video and was very excited
@@jaysnappsmediallc6680 Cool! Hopefully he didn't invest too much into his own project. I imagine this kills it.
Was thinking the same thing
They have accessed the Pyxis 6k announcement already and the cam mod is going ahead. You have to consider, that the Pyxis is the 6k FF variant. The mod is based on the Super 35 sensor. So it's still viable.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Also they are making them in very limited quantity. It's more so a passion project, not some sort of business venture. So I don't think people could have really expected to buy the camera mod version in any real capacity.
They sure killed it with this launch! 🔥🎥
Interview question: would it be theoretically possible to run a screen off the front evf usb port? ie how many watts of power does it supply and is it a normal standard of video? A one cable solution there would be sick!
MKII of the box camera is going to be something all camera companies are going to have to watch out for!
Can you find out if they are moving entirely away from Prores? Obviously you can attach a video assist, but with the most recent cameras from Blackmagic, it seems there's a higher focus on braw and a complete abandonment of Prores in the cameras. Is this a licensing issue with Apple? I just want to understand why it's important for them to make you use braw for everything. I'm already cutting in DaVinci Prores or not. Thanks!
Maybe is a matter of space, the higher they go on resolution and fps, the less an internal ProRes became usable/sufficient.
I never understood why they are going away from it either. RED, Arri and Sony are recording in ProRes. Even Kinefinity lets you record in 12 bit 4444 ProRes on thier cameras in high resolutions and frame rates 🤷♂️
Great video, and safe travels Michael.
Question for BM unrelated to hardware: Would it be possible to trigger in-body recording on iPhones via ATEM? Iya the one item on my bucket list whilst I continue to use the app as I save up for my first Blackmagic camera.
Colourgrading with the Micropanel in a coffee shop! 😂
I have been bitching about the ergonomics of the BMPcamera line, and they shut me up, tied up and strapped me down today. DAMN!!!!!
The side screen is just for menus but gives you video playback as a bonus if you need to check something fast without a proper monitor attached.
The strap module for the phone makes a lot of sense. I’ve tested the camera to cloud services using my iPhone. The uploads work great…but then rigging the phone is a total pain, where this approach would be nice to have available. At the same time, I’m not prepared to deal with such a slow sensor. I will kludge my way along with the CCs I have now until the G2 comes along.
Do we get 120fps in 4K with the boxed camera?
All the modern RED cameras have a screen. Also the BMD Camera OS is based around touchscreen functionality. I love the larger screen on it.
INTERVIEW QUESTION
Does the Pyxis have Gyro data like the 6K and 6K pro line????
gyro stab almost completely eliminated the RS on my 6kpro. I was blown away and discovered it quite by accident
This was my first thought as well!!
Their website says so 🙌
It's the same hardware as the FF 6k, so you can pretty much be sure, it does. I mean, even the Micro Studio 4k G2 got gyro !!
Take my money lol
Guys this cam is a beast for the price! The screen is not for filming it's for operating, fix your settings by moving over have a millimetre and then get back to your external monitor . Let's not complain about the monitor it gives amateur vibes. I'm not saying you're an Am Michael just want the youngsters to see this is not an issue at all, let's move past it fast and focus on this gift to the market. Great video !! Sick Cam.
I said before that they need to release a whole new legacy camera and they did it. No refreshed pocket cams but a whole new cinema line and bam!!! The PYXIS is here!!! And for an amazing price too!!!
100% agreed! Can’t wait to try it out!
Frame rates on a camera are often an indicator of the sensors readout speed and rolling shutter. They probably can't get higher frame rates at lower resolutions because of the amount of time it takes to read the sensor. But being able to do 100 frames a second at 12K means it still has a pretty fast readout time and should have decent rolling shutter performance.
IMX410 is one of, if not the most, legendary sensors ever made for the world of prosumer imaging.
Cropping on a sensor shorten the readout speed. Less pixel to read = less time to read the pixels.
Every full frame offering s35 crop have better performance in rolling shutter in crop mode, and not by a small margin. So no rolling shutter does not limit the frame rate at lower pixel ratios.
What could be a problem is if these modes are not crop but oversample. Oversampling needs to read the whole sensor
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should clarify that I was only referring to the s35 9k crop. Framerate and rolling shutter are still limited by how fast the sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing capture light. When you crop to s35 you aren't necessarily reading that area out any faster than in full frame.
It's kinda like depth of field when you use the same lens on ff and s35. The depth of field doesn't change but our perception overall does due to the larger area on ff.
I could be way off base, but currently my thinking is due to the pixel density when reading the whole ff or 35 area the camera cant keep up with the heat to read out any faster.
When dropping to 8k ff blackmagic say with their new Bayer pattern they are pixels skipping, so you have fewer pixels to read and a larger area to dissipate heat.
You are correct that cropping does increase readout speed, but there can be other factors.
But the original point I was kinda trying to make is that slow framerates doesn't necessarily mean slow readout, but high frame rights do mean fast read outs.
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should have clarified. I'm referring to the 9k s35 crop.
A sensors readout speed and in turn rolling shutter and framerates can also be effected by how fast a sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing light for the next frame.
Your correct that cropping to s35 does increase read speed and reduce overall rolling shutter but in the same way we effect perceived depth of field when using the same lens on s35 and full frame. The camera doesn't actually read the super 35 area any faster than in full frame mode, but it can start reading the next frame sooner cause there is less to read. If you overlay the s35 capture it's effective on full frame the rolling shutter often lines up assuming no processing or data limitations.
I could be way off base but my thinking here is that due to the pixel density in ff 12k and s35 9k the camera cant cool the sensor effectively enough to increase the read out and framerate. Blackmagic said that their with their new Bayer pattern on the 12k sensor they are pixel skipping. So when they reduce resolution on full frame they have a greater area for fewer pixels allowing the camera to read out more frames while still cooling effectively.
What I was kinda trying to say on my original comment is that low framerates dont necessarily mean a slow readout, but fast framerates mean that the readout has to be faster meaning the rolling shutter is reduced.
Can you ask if they weren't able to add NDs because of the size?
I’m amazed at the price of this truly professional camera. I read that rolling shutter could be a big issue on this camera, so hopefully Resolve’s rolling shutter fix can improve on that.
this is all so wild, got my G2 delivered two weeks ago, 3 days later they dropped the huge Cinema camera update, started practicing on studio resolve 18, and now 19 is released the next week. THIS IS A WHIRLWIND LMFAO
You're not missing much except unless you want the full frame.
@@ChrisParayno oh im very happy with my g2, its more that i bought it not knowing any of this big news was coming up and it all happened RIGHT after i got the camera 😂just makes everything more exciting!!
This was seriously the most amazing announcement from any company attending NAB in the last 10 years. INCREDIBLE! Can't wait to get one!
They went all out, I’m definitely getting the Pyxis
I have a bmpcc4k with a Portkey monitor connected by HDMI. I do not see an HDMI connector in the Pixis. What would be the ideal add-on monitor for this camera? Obviously, one that can run the menus as the Portkey or the Small HD do? Could my current monitor be connected by USB-C, where the viewfinder goes somehow? Sorry if the questions are silly. But I don't see myself filming solo with the monitor on the side of the camera. I also use Both tilta Nucleus M handles for focus and iris. It would be interesting to work out how to put them on either side of the camera...The Pyxis looks amazing, though...Cheers and thanks for your video.
"This is a thicc BOY" made me laugh haha. I'd love to know if you can simultaneously record to both of the CF cards on the PYXIS
I think these cards are so reliable that you wouldn't have to. But I'm pretty sure you can.
@@david_garibaldi I thought the same until I had one die in my R5 on a wedding day 😬 very happy I was dual recording. Would be great to be able to in the blackmagic!
Will DR19 be able edit H265 (HEVC) files without going to the studio version on WIndows?
Hi do u work for Black Magic I use Adobe Premier the older version I am slowy buying parts for 4K h.265 30 fps 60 fps for blogging
With my Komodo I have an external monitor and even a viewfinder but I find myself liking using just the top screen and keeping it minimal.
Like that BM has finally done it by why so late and why just 13 stops.
Agree with you on the monitor.
Making such a decent monitor on the side for 90% of users not to use it, is poor planning on BMs part. That monitor adds to the price, for no one to use it.
The Ursa cine looks so smart ergonomics wise and overall usage it's such a smart camera I feel jealous for whoever gets it and I would love to use it.
Really great upgrades! The only thing I miss with new 6k are ingrated ND filters. This would make it stunning. But what do you think of the new Micro Panel? I really think about selling my BM Mini Panel for the new Micro Panel, because it has much more buttons and functions and is portable like no other.
Hey Michael, I believe the FPS limitation could be based on the sensor readout speed. Curious to find out!
I'm most excited about the micro color panel
i want a subscription model, im tired of not giving them money for using my davinci since ages ago.
Grant hates subscriptions but what they should do is offer a higher level of customer support that’s paid, comes with the cloud, etc. I do buy their hardware from time to time and feel good about supporting them, but yes my dongle from Resolve version 9 is what I’m using!!! I do have a license that came with the speed editor I use for my laptop. I did buy the keycaps for $600 a few years ago to update my advanced panel to V2 (but bought that used) so not sure when I’ll be buying new BMD hardware.
I wonder if we can control the camera and all settings from the blackmagic video assist?
Sorry to go off topic, but is the iPad mount you’re using the SwitchEasy Flipmount?
BMI is crushing it. They are taking over and I'm here for it.
Atomos is doing a decent job at making older gear better or cheaper too. They gave the 2018 Ninja V a paid firmware update that gives it all the modern OS features of their latest monitors.
I agree about the screen. It should have been fully articulating like the cine 12k.
Are there options for using an Android Tablet instead of an iPad?
Buzzing about the 6K box design! Waited so long for it! Just gutted there’s no internal ND’s. Hopefully they bring a pro version out
Please ask BMD if the Ursa 12K/17K will be available without the proprietary Media Module. Or if there is a way to swap the Media Module for the CFExpress Module option. I don’t need 8TB internally as I will mostly shoot 4K, occasionally 8K (as I do on my Ursa Mini 12K currently).
According to their website, yes there will be a card module available to use instead of the 8TB module.
Stop griping about the Dynamic Range. People forget Sony and RED both rate their cameras ENTIRE dynamic range based off their sensors maximum patch range, including the entire noise floor, rounded up, where as Blackmagic, a lot like ARRI , rates their Dynamic Range based off the USABLE Dynamic Range rounded up. The reason this matters is both Sony and RED are overestimating their total dynamic range to include the removal of all noise from the resulting image. That means one can't actually hit the claimed Dynamic Range of most if not all Sony or RED cameras. Sure they can claim 15 to 17 stops, but if the sensors patch range is only 14.x to 15.x stops then one can't actually achieve the claimed DR even if one some how managed to remove all the noise. AKA at this point, based off the Cine-D lab tests, NO tested RED camera can exceed 16 stops of DR period, because none have a patch range over 16 stops. Blackmagic cameras, on the other hand, have patch ranges that have gone as high as 16.6 stops (Ursa 12k), and yet they've never claimed any of their cameras to have above 15 stops for any of their cameras (prior to this years announcement). That means if one were able to recover the full image patch range from a Blackmagic URSA 12k it would exceed the patch range of anything other than an ARRI. Also it should be pointed out many of the Cine-D tests don't do apples to apples DR comparisons, because some cameras have internal NR where as Blackmagic and most other Cinema Cameras DO NOT. If one adds an equivalent amount of NR to the Blackmagic Cameras they often exceed the tested competition that have built in NR like the A7SIII. That is why it's foolish to gripe about claimed DR unless one has actually done and apples to apples comparison, and in most cases Blackmagic cameras are much better than people give them credit for.
They want you to buy one of their monitors that they just reduced in price. That's why the screen is on the side. Also for focus pullers.
I am wondering if we can use usb c to hdmi adapter for an external monitor
Black magic pyxis 13 stops dynamic range is the main issue I have with this camera. Also no H.265
Basically it’s the Pocket 6K in a box format.
Would love to see an updated Video Assist monitor line from BM. Ideally one that allows you to adjust the internal settings of the camera. This would negate the side-monitor issue on the Pyxis.
Is there any plan to capture Zdepth and encode that data inside their cameras for VFX artists to capture and utilize?
I'll get the box camera for sure. The monitor isn't a big issue for me hus I just wish it had global shutter. I'd even pay extra for that but this for that price is incredible. I love what blackmagic are doing!
Does the Pyxis have global shutter?
ASK THESE PLEASE:
Ability to search vst in tracks by either vendor or category in the fair light page.
2. Ability to add sticky notes in the clip node editor . Useful when transferring projects between systems
3. Ability to convert compound clips to multicam clips … this is ambitious I know. But is useful to enhance workflow especially in tv series editing
4 ability to duck the transcribe pop up panel … maybe like a tap on the inspector section. And a streamline script base editing workflow like that of avid media composer. This would be so lovely to have 😊
5. Ability to create instrument tracks and loads VSTi for scoring and foley composition with a KONTAKT foley library. This would be so cool to have in the fair light page…
6. Ability to send out more than 3 displays from video cards that supports the number. This is used when you aimed at dedicating a monitor for scopes, two for editing, one for main output and why not another for lightbox when in color page and or the mixer channel when in fairlight page… this would be super useful… I have a quadro card with 4 display port out but I can only use 3 ….
Thank you so much please
I hope resolve get to consider these…
I have been using resolve back as 2014…
It is my number one ❤❤❤❤😊😊
So far my only gripe is the location of the SDI ports in relation to the battery port - especially when wanting to mount v mount or gold mount options. Can you ask BM if there will be a solution for that? Or when you see it in person can you see how much real estate there is to fit a v mount battery/plate back there? Thanks!
tilta, smallrig and everybody will make and adapter for vmount batteries. That certainly will extend beyond the sdi port
You can also have a right angle mount for sdi
@@nicolacornolti so true! Thanks for that insight!
I'm almost happier for you than I am for myself. Your videos have been hoping and anticipating something big from BM for a while now! 😂 👏👏
Amazing! BM never let us down
Hi Michael, I’m curious why they didn’t opt for v mount for the “black box” camera since mini batteries are all the rage these days. Are the minis still too big for the box form factor? Would love if you can get an answer from them at NAB.
Curious too if they will say what’s next for the BMPCC line. In some ways the FX3/FX30 is the true “PCC”, especially in terms of form factor
Definitely the micro color panel! Just couldn't pull the trigger on the older one @ that price point/functionality. Doesn't say explicitly, DaVinci Resolve Studio activation key included. 🤷♂
Is there a way to record pro res externally instead of just the internal BRAW?
Yes with an external monitor such as the blackmagic video assist.
I am curious about this as well.
Michael, please ask BM during your interview, will they make and sell separate external controlling monitor for Pyxis. if not which touch screen monitors will be best option to use. Also about V mount option instead of current, will they make and sell V mount battery plate or not? Thanks and have a great holidays.
One more thing: did they add basics to resolve like copying text attributes?
Here my question.
1. Could we see an update where we can record higher fps at open gate via sdi recording on video assist 12G?
2. Would it be possible to run usbc to video assist 12G for image and power if we don’t want the EVF?
3. Any potential of making a dedicated monitors? Say take the video assist 12gs and take away the external recording components. In order to make just a monitor that also has USB-C for image signal and camera controls without having to use the side screen.
3. Can the screen be set to auto off and tap to wake like a phone? To save battery when not using it until we need to?
Please ask them if they reduced the price of the monitors because they are planning to release an updated version soon, I have the lumix S5 MK2 and I feel like the monitor was released way before the camera and would love to see a new version with some new cool features on it.
I love they presenter they always use for these videos. He always seems so down to earth.
That’s Grant Petty, CEO 😂 he’s amazing
He's so awesome, smart and gentle.
So adorable
No internal ND for the pyxis??
The resolve replay system they announced was mind blowing. A few years ago a 2 channel replay system would cost you $20,000 now Blackmagic release this with 8 channels
BM needs more audio recording options. More XLR inputs. Or just rethink recording audio in the field.
This is all great, but it lacks audio
I've always just gawked at cinema cameras because they're just so beautiful. I never felt like buying a BMPCC or similar because I only shoot stills. However... $3k for a 6K box format camera makes my heart flutter. I want one to play with. I want one.
Great camera for an even better price. Shame about the lack of NDs but was to be expected from BM. I just don't get why the screen isn't flippable line the Ursa Mini, would make it way more versatile. Also no ibis and (good) auto focus I wager??
They should do a detachable screen which attached with magnets and connects via usb-c while detached,
Pixys might be good for shoulder mounts 👀.
Maybe docu style shooters might enjoy it
It was very nice meeting you today at NAB
I am sure they will have Firmware updates in a few months to address the speeds etc.
We're going to get a lot more options for that right side panels. They're making the specks for those and all of the cage manufacturers will have different mounting options based on it
Are there ND filters on the PYXiS?
Question about L-mount alliance. Do we expect some good new lenses for BlackMagic that could be used for Lumix S cameras too?
@@bastelwigames anything. L-mount is still lacking behind Sony with variety of lenses. However I know Lumix and Leica lenses are top of the game.
The side monitor just greases the space between your checkbook and the new sick AF EVF !
I wont worry about the screen being on the side, with the view finder accessory being usb c, you could probably use a phone as a screen.
This launch was effing huuuuuuge! I’m definitely getting the Pyxis! I absolutely love Blackmagic. Their products are the Apple of cameras (in a good way).
Another interview question: Why my tokina 11-16 F2.8 still doesn't work (the known aperture stuck issue) even after new firmware update?
The new beta? My tokina 11-16 works OK now
I miss the Global Shutter from Blackmagic. I like that they did the box camera, weird that the screen on the side, should have been on the top, but I wanted a Global Shutter in it. I basically want a cheaper Red Komodo from BM.
I think it's time to switch over to DR from FCPX. I'm looking at your paid tuts but I'm wondering if they will still be effective given the newer version. Do you see any extra add-ons to cover the new features?
Oh yes, we’ll be adding 19 feature videos as soon as I get back from NAB to my resolve course
@@initialfocus I'm buying! The save50 code doesn't work. Should it?
Question for NAB. USB C for EVF, BNC for SDI. Why no HDMI? Is the idea to use an USB C iPhone/iPad as a monitor?
didn't see any info on the bit depth of the new camera. please tell me its not 10 or 12 bit...Braw is 12.. so i'm hoping there's something else going on inside the box... If it's not 16 bit, then its of limited value as compared to the arri or sony
Can't wait for the PYXIS 6K Pro with Internal NDs a year from now. Also If BMD makes a external camera monitor that can use the front Viewfinder USB that would be awesome.
Did resolve get a dope sheet for key framing yet?
They really need this!
Do black magic cameras have autofocus? If so, is it good?
So, I see no new product that would considered as an upgrade to ATEM Mini Pro ISO, right?
Witnessing Irix lenses steal the spotlight on the latest Black Magic camera brings me an immense sense of pride!
I'm very intrigued and huge kudos to BM for FINALLY giving us a box camera 🥳 BUT... that fixed screen. Absolutely no reason why they couldn't make it a fully articulated screen like the Ursa's. Please ask them about this when you meet with them at NAB! Also will we ever get 4K120 via a firmware update? It's a shame that you have to get a larger Ursa in order to access all the higher frame rates.
Anyone know anything about this cameras Auto focus? Thanks in advance!
I think the side screen is good, I’d rather have the top free for mounting