I'm surprised Digital Foundry still has not released a head to head video comparison between the consoles for this game. Other channels have already done it.
You have to realize Digital Foundry are a “company” and not individual content creator. 1 video per day schedule is followed and the people on the channel are employees so they work a set amount and need their break.
This is the first game I have played on quality mode because it looks so much better. Avatar should look as good as possible to keep up with the films, and the difference between the two modes is pretty drastic to my eyes.
@sarunas8638 30fps is so weak. And mostly everything in quality mode plays at 30 on consoles. This gen should see an improvement to minimal 60fps. So underpowered, if they could run in quality at 60fps they would but everything is so trimmed back and no retracing to get upto 60. Not going to even mention the pc comment.
@@durrutino Funny none of your comments are actually showing, however you know from other chats I have zero consoles, not all but most games will play 60fps in performance but your wanting 60fps with the detail or quality mode and it just can’t do it. 🤣
It doesn't. 40fps is the most overrated thing because it's barely discernibly better than 30fps. People talk like it's the solution but since getting a 120hz tv, every 40fps mode (like Lies of P recently on the Series X) has been trivial. If a game requires fast movement, then 60 fps is always better. Whereas if a game is slow, then 30 fps will be okay anyway (certainly with decent motion blur). But 40fps is absolutely not the magical solution some make it out to be.
@cartermoth6447 Sorry to disagree, Ratchet and Clank, Forspoken, God of War and Spiderman, they run perfectly on 40fps. It's WAY more fluid than 30fps. The only guys good at 30fps are INSOMNIAC with their motion blur technique and perfect frame pacing. Lies of Pi? Reminds me all "FromSoftware" issues...😅👍
@@bettigio A Plague Tale Requiem is another game with a 40fps mode which provides a negligible improvement. It might be ever-so-slightly more perceptibly fluid than 30fps, but I strongly disagree with the claim 40fps modes are WAY better than 30 fps. They're not. 60 fps is the real jump in quality. 40 fps meanwhile just doesn't feel like a big enough jump.
@@yochief-wy6tk how is it funny? People payed hard earned money to get next gen and 60 fps and Microsoft failed them simple as that I don’t see that as funny
@@emotionlesja91 no I think it’s y’all expect too much out of the s. Itll be 1080 60 and 1080 30 on the games that take more to run. You get what you pay for it’s that simple.
Graphics are quite vast on this game so no surprise the S is lower frame rate. Bear in mind the Sx and ps5 are dropping 10-15 frame rates. Series s a great console. If 30fps is a let down that’s on the devs not cutting back enough to try and run at 60fps. Not Microsoft. Series s been very good on recent games. But in all honesty this game just need optimised a bit.
@@emotionlesja91The only people complaining about the S are mainly Sony fanboys thinking it's Console War ammunition for them 🤪 Anyone that bought the S knows exactly what they were getting for the money. If it's about getting what you pay for compare the S to the Switch or Sonys useless Pothole. Imagine paying hard earned cash for a device marketed as playing your PS5 games on the go and getting a device that can barely play those games on the couch next to your hardwired console 🤷🏻♂️
Xbox series s works great as always! even with dynamic 2k it gives stable frames in many games, I hope that soon they will optimize the game for 60 fps
It's really impressive how well the consoles can run a game this big with so much graphically. I can deal with 30fps on story games like this. It makes the game feel more like a movie since movies are actually a lower fps than 30 which makes the game feel more cinematic.
That’s how I feel, too, but it seems like an unpopular opinion. I would actually play a slower, story-driven game at a locked 24fps to look closer to a movie, but I have a soft spot for that frame rate having learned filmmaking on a film camera. It would be for a niche audience lol.
@@stevenesbitt3528 totally with you on that. The need for extreme fps is understandable for competitive gamers. But I also think there's an element of status to it, and players get addicted to how those high numbers constantly reaffirm that sense of status (in PC gamer terms lol) you get playing on a pricey rig outfitted with all the big brand names with the highest stats. Tie that into the gameplay experience, then FPS becomes part of the satisfaction loop, even if the gamer can't actually tell the difference between 144fps and 240fps (some can I'm sure). It's really a lot like cars. At some point, just getting to where you need to go in a comfortable and enjoyable car isn't enough. I guess we're just hard-wired like that.
@@rizzo-films I agree. But I prefer a Locked 30FPS over anything else. 24 locked would be cool, but 30fps locked with no drops is perfect for me. Especially with high quality motion blur. That’s why I still think DriveClub looks better than most racing games even now. th-cam.com/video/5ySKaLo-Eu4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JOX0DK7XwZ2lAvKf
💯👌No way in the world I play this in performance mode. Quality mode almost every single time(except for multiplayer). Especially if you play on a 4K OLED. Dead Space, Alan Wake 2, Forbidden West, Spider-Man 2, Forza Horizon 5. All so much Better in the 4K quality mode. Performance makes these games look like a muddy cartoon.
Not for me, playing on my 1440p monitor. I take higher FPS always. 30FPS is unplayable trash. I enjoy playing on consoles, but once everything is back to just 30FPS I am going back to PC for good.
I appreciate this video, it’s great work 👍. I especially appreciate it when Digital Foundry just released a video for how to hack Orange Box up to 4K but still haven’t released a comparison like this! But @5:30 I would say “or maybe” save up for a TV with VRR and then the frame drops are a non issue. I can’t recommend it highly enough. It’s one of the 3 greatest features of current gen consoles and as transformational as high resolution or high frame rates. Such a huge game changer that if you don’t have VRR you only really have 2/3rds of the “next-gen” experience.
You won't see the beauty. If you will play it on PC, you can see the beauty. I was shocked by this game, it was feeling like in 2008 when I saw Crysis for the first time. The most beautiful world. Even PS5 exclusive like God of war and Horizon don't look so great like there jungles.
The point is that if a game instead of 60fps goes to 40, there is definitely a problem here that must be fixed with patches apart fron VRR. Amd of course, many people still do not have a VRR screen, TV or monitor.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 for sure. But these seems pretty close in typical performance. So VRR fallback it is. I wish developers weren’t doing this but yeah
So for me all i can say is on ps5 with a 200dollar 4k tv, performance mode feels smooth and graphics look pretty good. Quality mode does look a little better, but if you pan left to right, the blur is very apparent compared to performance mode. So i stick to performance for me personally.
even if ps5 have better performance in general but for me xbox is the best in this generation because of its services .. for example i can play this game on U+ on day one with other Ubisoft games but in PS5 i have to buy it for 70$
@@AV-xm5lnSorry bro but Series X had less issues overall, media focused alot on Xbox issues but reality is PS5 had a lot of them, and Xbox features worked out of the box while PS5 needed months worth of updates.... Btw I have both, PS5 won in VR and Series X won as a console gaming device
@@AV-xm5lnactually 3rd party games typically look better on the sx but usually run slightly better on the ps5(without vrr). I’d choose the sx for the better picture.
The more powerful console series x should be performing better than the ps5, I love both and got both consoles and got the game on the series x because the battery life on my controller is like 5 times longer than the ps5 controller but If I knew that the ps5 had better resolution and better performance I would have went with the ps5 version this time, devs need to optimise more to bring the full capabilities of the xbox series x even if it will only produce slightly better performance and resolution than the ps5 as it should as the series x is the more powerful machine, not just focus on the ps5 because it has a larger player base then port to the series x as an afterthought.
The Series X is slightly more powerful, but the PS5 is a more balanced console, hardware-wise. Microsoft screwed up with the split memory pool on the Series X.
@@mariust6769you don't get it at all. They could not of went same route as Sony due the fact that it's lower overall bandwidth they needed more for more powerful GPU why it's split. The GPU inside the console is comparable to 6700xt levels of performance Vs ps5 being rx6700 non xt they definitely do not need more than 10gbs for that level of performance. In total though out of the 16gb Devs have access to 13.5gb pool 2.5 reserved for the os. 10gb super fast other 3.5 slightly slower which is more than fine to use for things when building a game that don't require alot of bandwidth something Microsoft mentioned. Devs are just lazy they rush games and blame hardware we hear this every generation. Keep in mind rtx 3080 launched with 10gb and that's like 35-50% more powerful than what's inside the consoles and not all games max out the vram at Ultra settings 4k resolution with ray tracing something neither console is powerful enough to do so again why more vram?
Ehm, I'll happily take 500p if it takes to get this game to 60 fps on Series S. So not sure what you meant by it. I play on a sofa a few meters from a tv and don't notice the resolution much
The graphics here look insanely good no matter what mode you use. Im just wowed. I’m glad we’re finally getting pure current gen games! This seems like it’s the first AAA title skipping last gen completely, and you can see it. Also, I think 30fps works well here because it looks cinematic. Normally I prefer 60fps (even on Cyberpunk 2077) when movement is fast paced, but here the environments make me enjoy the more cinematic feel of 30fps.
@@Solidus155 I think the last two were being developed for last gen as well but the old gen versions were cancelled (as performance was so poor). Avatar was developed 100% for current gen.
What a Joke, never used to be an issue and games on Consoles were never about frame rates, but enjoyment. A game is enjoyable weither 30 or 60FPS, should not matter if its a good game and does not stop you enjoying it. Why is it so many get hung up on the 60fps crap, not needed, just play the games like they did in the 70's 80's and 90's and never considered framerates an issue. If you cannot just enjoy the games, without getting hung up on fps then a console is not for you, get a PC then. Consoles were never made to mimick a PC or try to be like one, they were designed to give arcade gaming, not PC gaming and thats the trouble
@@drakefrs What a load of crap, Been playing games right from the first Pong game, the Atari 2700, Spectrum ZX81, master system, etc, and we did not worry about framerates or what they were. Did not stop the enjoyment of gaming. A PC player would say even 60fps is to slow. Think your just to spoiled
@@dennisrogers6786 then pay $500 for a console and $70 for a game to play it in 30 fps, let these companies rip you off if that’s what you like, not to mention that the ps5 is more expensive in some countries than it is in the states, who’s spoiled now?
A beautiful game. I wait for this kind of game, 90% of the games are ugly story, ugly atmosphere, environment,etc this is a game where you want to stay, make me to fell better, happy etc
People need to realize they wanted 4k over 60 fps . Is 4k 60 fps possible? Yes. But not on games like this. 1440p 120fps is the target they should be hitting.
It's a ps5 sponsored tittle so I'm not surprised. Microsoft has failed blatantly to make developers use all capabilities of the series x. If this is happening with the regular ps5, imagine the differences with the pro.
This is exactly why I choose the PS5 over the SX version. All this "fancy stuff" built into the SX and nobody using it, even Microsoft's 1st party studios.
@@SOTVT i have both consoles and I enjoy them, but I'm more of an xbox fan and I got the series x first since is my favorite of the two, but it sucks having the superior hardware and yet most games run the same if not better on the ps5. I use the xbox more because gamepass is miles better than ps plus and I personally prefer the ergonomics of the series controller more.
But Sony wont allow the use of the Pro, just like the did with PS5 and the Pro, the pro was wasted, you watch, Sony repeating the same. Same as the X is held back by the S
I'm not fanboying and all but I must say that the Series version really lacks optimisation. When you compare to Alan Wake 2 (a very demanding tittle), Remedy made the effort to properly optimize the game, even the Series S manages to be good
You can tell they ran out of hardware budget for this game, all destructible objects instantly turn into a different lower quality asset and falls right through the ground, no left overs or physics on them. Another next gen game that shines in the visuals compartment but flops hard everywhere else. Truly one of the most ubisoft games of all time.
Xbox series s Is it worth buying only for Forza Horizon 5 and 2024 forza horizon 6 ?!! Bcoz I already have ps5 digital editon So I don’t need xb sx Upcoming fh6 will run 1080p 60fp without lag in series s or not ?! Can i buy or wait for next xbox console
I do not think a PS5 pro or and XboxSX elite , can be justified for the extra expense for buying two Next Gen consoles, paid for the XboxSX would I be willing to fork out 100s more £/$ for an XboxSX Elite. Or (Vice Versa, which ever console you have). I’m saying this because the Next Gen games we have or haven’t got yet do not Justify spending 100s more £/$ for Yet Another Next Gen console.
Thats output resolution after FSR. Internal resolution is around 800-1000p in performance and 1200-1400p in quality mode. But still good none the less.
I don't think consoles will truly be 9th gen until the ps5 pro and boosted series x (whatever they call it) comes out. I think the current series x and ps5 are kinda like gen 8.5 consoles and the pro/series x boosted will be the true 9th gen...then when the 10th gen comes graphics will be truly 60/120+ fps. so far the fps for the current consoles has been just marketing to sell us consoles, but the juice isn't there.
I don't think I Ps5 pro would be that much better. The PS4 pro is rumoured to have the same zen2 cores as the ps5 but clocked slightly higher and about 80% more gpu performance. So if the game is CPU bound you are not going to get a higher fps regardless of resolution. On the ps5 pro this game's performance mode would have the image quality of about 1800p, but performance would be similar.
From what I hear from rumors the PS5 pro is only going to be 20% better that will not be enough to run GTA 6 smoothly and fast when it comes out in 2025 if that console upgrade is going to happen that year
@@Ziyoblader GTA 6 is definitely going to be running on the base ps5 and Xbox since that's what they're creating the game for since our consoles are still in the new gen era
Nah It's just a matter of raw power. I think Series S has ¼ of Series X's GPU power, so no surprise why S isn't capable of holding that good with new and real current gen games. Btw I think Series S owners know what they're paying. I'd like to get one and I already know that console won't perform as good as Series X/PS5
@@MichaelM28It's actually a genius idea by Xbox..... It's something will kill PS for good, remember this in 2025 while Xbox Series S is underpowered by Xbox and why they limiting it's power delivery making it less than even laptops
What are you smoking? It comes down to optimization. Since performance mode doesn’t run well on the big guys it’s clear this needed to be in the oven longer.
This game look so beautiful on PC. I played 2 days on 12600K, 32Gb DDR4, 4070 on 2K with DLSS Quality and Ultra Settings. Maybe it's the most beautiful game I have ever seen. PS5 can't show this beauty, cos PS5 is outdated for these 3years. I'm so glad that I sold my PS5 abd bought 4070 instead of it. I can play Dead Space, The Last Of Us 1, Avatar with so sharp image. I don't believe that PS5 Pro will be strong enough and won't be outdated for 2-3 years again.
Unbelievable how powerful is the Ps5 in almost all games than the series x. More stable and higher fps or higher resolution and crisper image on Ps5.😮 I love it. 😊
@@partner313 it’s the first game in a while. Latest games seem to have the edge on the SX. But initially the ps5 did have better head to head. In fact it doesn’t seem stable on either ps5 or SX on performance mode none are maintaining the 60, what’s strange is they drop at different points. Needs optimised on both. But the SX definitely is turning things around from the initial year after release. Whatever your playing on you wouldnt notice a frame drop here or there. It’s just fanboys splitting hairs. This generation there’s very very minimal differences to even mention.
It's based on what display people have, u can't have a shit 4k tv and accept the game to look good. The reason why i didn't say monitors is because they have no upscaling technology because they are focused on fps. For example,high-end Sony and Samsung's image processing chips are so good at upscaling, it's comparable to a rtx 4080. And the test i see on this Channel is a monitor that does 4K 60 with no upscaling tech, no HDR, no Dolby vision, and it's qled,oled or qd-oled. So the test are pointless until the reviewer gets a great tv that dose 144hz at 4k
Tf u mean, series x is at its full potential here, the only thing suffering here is series s fps, its not like they are sacrificing anything for the series s
1:33 puede verse como el juego en ps5 ya estaba iniciado... en una pequeña fracción de tiempo puede verse el juego iniciado entre dos pantallas negras... realmente esto es falso, no me lo creo... en este test debería de ganar series s porque tiene que cargar menos nivel de texturas y su versión del juego es mas liviana.... por lo tanto me parece una comparación manipulada...
Yeah both poor performance and at different time. Times where ps5 stable then Xbox stable whilst ps5 drop frame rates. Video isn’t highest quality so difficult to tell if any other differences.
@@parazels83 the first scene with headquarters has ps5 dropping but not the series x but the cutscene later has series x dropping and the ps5 very little.. but playstation has marketing rights to this game so it's probably better in ps5 cause sony san diego people worked on it.
@@parazels83 nope, not on a big display like 65 Watch gaming tech analyse video, there is si much shimmering in perf mode series x + lower resolution and bigger drops Not "unexisting" And important for users that want to choose their platform to play this game Thanks
Unfortunately, the Series X version suffers from flickering image artifacts in various textures & vegetation... This is probably due to the FSR... I find this extremely annoying, especially in performance mode.
DF said that actually this game runs pretty good compared to PC and we don't see the big differences that we see in Alan Wake 2....consoles hold pretty well here.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 just because digital foundry said it doesn’t mean I have to have the same standards. For me since switching from ps5 to an rtx 4080 build there is no comparison. I’d rather game on my pc any day of the week. If someone prefers consoles then more power to them. But someone else’s standards doesn’t mean they meet my standards.
It's obvious that you haven't played or completed Horizon:FW on PS5 on HDR TV OLED. This nonsense, only suitable for fans of Cameron's films, and little else. Boring, bland and unintelligent. HFW urinates and defecates it in a technical and playful way.
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Honestly - I’m impressed by the Series S here.
I’m perplexed by the load times however, though quick resume seems to alleviate that.
I’ve had quack resume crash on me 3 times already. Hopefully they fix it becuase it’s definitely annoying
Quick resume has nothing to do with loading, it's another thing.
@@kostasbousbouras2654of course, I’m just saying quick resume is currently broken for this game. I’m not saying it twords loading or anything
Pointless who cares unless your doing a side by side
I'm surprised Digital Foundry still has not released a head to head video comparison between the consoles for this game. Other channels have already done it.
well they spend more time on a video so that's probably why
You have to realize Digital Foundry are a “company” and not individual content creator. 1 video per day schedule is followed and the people on the channel are employees so they work a set amount and need their break.
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Good news, they have.
Who cares
This is the first game I have played on quality mode because it looks so much better. Avatar should look as good as possible to keep up with the films, and the difference between the two modes is pretty drastic to my eyes.
@sarunas8638 30fps is so weak. And mostly everything in quality mode plays at 30 on consoles. This gen should see an improvement to minimal 60fps. So underpowered, if they could run in quality at 60fps they would but everything is so trimmed back and no retracing to get upto 60. Not going to even mention the pc comment.
Ikr 30 fps feels pretty smooth on consoles. Unless I keep switching between the two modes I can't always tell if it's at 30fps or 60fps@sarunas8638
I played all games in 30fps on PS4. But I can't play even in slow games less than 60fps now. Even Protocol Callisto or The Last of Us 1.
@@colinbrydon7659 All Sony games play at 60 fps mode, and recently 120 HZ/fps,,VRR on PS5. Must have sold you a PS Chinese box version.
@@durrutino Funny none of your comments are actually showing, however you know from other chats I have zero consoles, not all but most games will play 60fps in performance but your wanting 60fps with the detail or quality mode and it just can’t do it. 🤣
I still wonder why developers don’t give us more 40fps option, it works way better than 30fps on a 120hz tv😩
It doesn't. 40fps is the most overrated thing because it's barely discernibly better than 30fps. People talk like it's the solution but since getting a 120hz tv, every 40fps mode (like Lies of P recently on the Series X) has been trivial.
If a game requires fast movement, then 60 fps is always better. Whereas if a game is slow, then 30 fps will be okay anyway (certainly with decent motion blur). But 40fps is absolutely not the magical solution some make it out to be.
@cartermoth6447 Sorry to disagree, Ratchet and Clank, Forspoken, God of War and Spiderman, they run perfectly on 40fps. It's WAY more fluid than 30fps.
The only guys good at 30fps are INSOMNIAC with their motion blur technique and perfect frame pacing.
Lies of Pi? Reminds me all "FromSoftware" issues...😅👍
@@bettigio A Plague Tale Requiem is another game with a 40fps mode which provides a negligible improvement.
It might be ever-so-slightly more perceptibly fluid than 30fps, but I strongly disagree with the claim 40fps modes are WAY better than 30 fps. They're not. 60 fps is the real jump in quality. 40 fps meanwhile just doesn't feel like a big enough jump.
@Dankina_92 RTX 4090😅
@@bettigioi really enjoy 40 FPS, smoothess + graphics
I dont have Series S anymore but i got a PS5, and in this video you showed exactly what i wanted to see and more
thank you❤
so till now: consoles are held back by last gen consoles....now consoles are held back by current gen graphics.....
Series’s s* I just wanna see all series s ppl get mad it’s funny
@@yochief-wy6tk how is it funny? People payed hard earned money to get next gen and 60 fps and Microsoft failed them simple as that I don’t see that as funny
@@emotionlesja91 no I think it’s y’all expect too much out of the s. Itll be 1080 60 and 1080 30 on the games that take more to run. You get what you pay for it’s that simple.
Graphics are quite vast on this game so no surprise the S is lower frame rate. Bear in mind the Sx and ps5 are dropping 10-15 frame rates. Series s a great console. If 30fps is a let down that’s on the devs not cutting back enough to try and run at 60fps. Not Microsoft. Series s been very good on recent games. But in all honesty this game just need optimised a bit.
@@emotionlesja91The only people complaining about the S are mainly Sony fanboys thinking it's Console War ammunition for them 🤪 Anyone that bought the S knows exactly what they were getting for the money. If it's about getting what you pay for compare the S to the Switch or Sonys useless Pothole. Imagine paying hard earned cash for a device marketed as playing your PS5 games on the go and getting a device that can barely play those games on the couch next to your hardwired console 🤷🏻♂️
Xbox series s works great as always! even with dynamic 2k it gives stable frames in many games, I hope that soon they will optimize the game for 60 fps
series S is 720p haha
It's really impressive how well the consoles can run a game this big with so much graphically. I can deal with 30fps on story games like this. It makes the game feel more like a movie since movies are actually a lower fps than 30 which makes the game feel more cinematic.
That’s how I feel, too, but it seems like an unpopular opinion. I would actually play a slower, story-driven game at a locked 24fps to look closer to a movie, but I have a soft spot for that frame rate having learned filmmaking on a film camera. It would be for a niche audience lol.
Chasing fps has gotten a bit silly. What I want is stability and consistency of experience with graphics as polished as they can be.
@@stevenesbitt3528 totally with you on that. The need for extreme fps is understandable for competitive gamers. But I also think there's an element of status to it, and players get addicted to how those high numbers constantly reaffirm that sense of status (in PC gamer terms lol) you get playing on a pricey rig outfitted with all the big brand names with the highest stats. Tie that into the gameplay experience, then FPS becomes part of the satisfaction loop, even if the gamer can't actually tell the difference between 144fps and 240fps (some can I'm sure). It's really a lot like cars. At some point, just getting to where you need to go in a comfortable and enjoyable car isn't enough. I guess we're just hard-wired like that.
@@stevenesbitt3528 💯🙌 PREACH!!!!!!!
@@rizzo-films I agree. But I prefer a Locked 30FPS over anything else. 24 locked would be cool, but 30fps locked with no drops is perfect for me. Especially with high quality motion blur. That’s why I still think DriveClub looks better than most racing games even now.
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60+VRR is the way to go in this game I guess. Get rid of any screen tearing. Runs smooth and resolution is still good
For people who have VRR...
For all the others, 30fps is the solution.
Thx for this comparison man!
You bet!
💯👌No way in the world I play this in performance mode. Quality mode almost every single time(except for multiplayer). Especially if you play on a 4K OLED. Dead Space, Alan Wake 2, Forbidden West, Spider-Man 2, Forza Horizon 5. All so much Better in the 4K quality mode. Performance makes these games look like a muddy cartoon.
Oled judder on quality mode ..
Oh 10000% I do have to say a nice 60 or higher frame rate is nice as hell. But 99% of the time I'm taking that 30 of 40fps mode for 4k resolution
Not for me, playing on my 1440p monitor. I take higher FPS always. 30FPS is unplayable trash. I enjoy playing on consoles, but once everything is back to just 30FPS I am going back to PC for good.
It really is stunningly beautiful.
I was waiting for this video... You never let me down!
I appreciate this video, it’s great work 👍. I especially appreciate it when Digital Foundry just released a video for how to hack Orange Box up to 4K but still haven’t released a comparison like this!
But @5:30 I would say “or maybe” save up for a TV with VRR and then the frame drops are a non issue.
I can’t recommend it highly enough.
It’s one of the 3 greatest features of current gen consoles and as transformational as high resolution or high frame rates.
Such a huge game changer that if you don’t have VRR you only really have 2/3rds of the “next-gen” experience.
I like the shading on series s more lol
Series S >>>>> PS5
This game looks awesome I might get a cheap Series S just to play it
You won't see the beauty. If you will play it on PC, you can see the beauty. I was shocked by this game, it was feeling like in 2008 when I saw Crysis for the first time. The most beautiful world. Even PS5 exclusive like God of war and Horizon don't look so great like there jungles.
@@dessso4463not everybody wants to spend 2000-2500 Dollars for a PC
If you're playing right next to the screen, you won't be able to tell much a difference between 2k and 4k.
Wish developers would optimise for properly and stop releasing half finished games charging full price.
When games run like this I always think Series X is your best bet. VRR range is just better. That lower value of 40 can be a life saver.
The point is that if a game instead of 60fps goes to 40, there is definitely a problem here that must be fixed with patches apart fron VRR.
Amd of course, many people still do not have a VRR screen, TV or monitor.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 for sure. But these seems pretty close in typical performance. So VRR fallback it is. I wish developers weren’t doing this but yeah
Ps5 supports vrr as well tho? And in my experience range is just as good
@@michealadebz it’s not. 48-60
ps5 xbox same shit. always need someone to stir the pot heh?
VRR is simply essential for modern gaming. It makes those drops into the low 50's in performance mode negligible.
@DrPerun go cry
@@dvg9904This makes no sense but always seems to be what people run to when they have no argument lol
@@NotCharAznablethere’s no point in trying to argue with people who have no interest in having an actual conversation so it’s easier to just say that
@DrPerunman, games on pc are just port, they suck in optimization nowdays. I’m also a pc gamer but I think now is better to hold a console
No
30fps should be a crime for this console generation
There’s a choice. You can play at 30fps with max graphics or 60fps with good graphics. Having choices is good.
@@DinkWhit Not in Series S. A scam by Microsoft imo
So for me all i can say is on ps5 with a 200dollar 4k tv, performance mode feels smooth and graphics look pretty good. Quality mode does look a little better, but if you pan left to right, the blur is very apparent compared to performance mode. So i stick to performance for me personally.
Ive found the performance gets worse the further you get into the game. It really needs a couple of patches lots of fps drops.
It look light the lightning and shadows are better on xbox? Ps5 looks dark.? Or is it just me
even if ps5 have better performance in general but for me xbox is the best in this generation because of its services .. for example i can play this game on U+ on day one with other Ubisoft games but in PS5 i have to buy it for 70$
Nah the ps5 is better this generation. Not only do third party games look and run better on the ps5, it also has better exclusives.
@@AV-xm5lnSorry bro but Series X had less issues overall, media focused alot on Xbox issues but reality is PS5 had a lot of them, and Xbox features worked out of the box while PS5 needed months worth of updates....
Btw I have both, PS5 won in VR and Series X won as a console gaming device
Ok guys, both are great, but I chose the xbox series x because I have a ps4 pro which has great graphics for my playstation games
@@AV-xm5lnactually 3rd party games typically look better on the sx but usually run slightly better on the ps5(without vrr). I’d choose the sx for the better picture.
Well here we go again lol
The more powerful console series x should be performing better than the ps5, I love both and got both consoles and got the game on the series x because the battery life on my controller is like 5 times longer than the ps5 controller but If I knew that the ps5 had better resolution and better performance I would have went with the ps5 version this time, devs need to optimise more to bring the full capabilities of the xbox series x even if it will only produce slightly better performance and resolution than the ps5 as it should as the series x is the more powerful machine, not just focus on the ps5 because it has a larger player base then port to the series x as an afterthought.
The Series X is slightly more powerful, but the PS5 is a more balanced console, hardware-wise. Microsoft screwed up with the split memory pool on the Series X.
Exactly this @@mariust6769
@@mariust6769you don't get it at all. They could not of went same route as Sony due the fact that it's lower overall bandwidth they needed more for more powerful GPU why it's split. The GPU inside the console is comparable to 6700xt levels of performance Vs ps5 being rx6700 non xt they definitely do not need more than 10gbs for that level of performance. In total though out of the 16gb Devs have access to 13.5gb pool 2.5 reserved for the os. 10gb super fast other 3.5 slightly slower which is more than fine to use for things when building a game that don't require alot of bandwidth something Microsoft mentioned. Devs are just lazy they rush games and blame hardware we hear this every generation.
Keep in mind rtx 3080 launched with 10gb and that's like 35-50% more powerful than what's inside the consoles and not all games max out the vram at Ultra settings 4k resolution with ray tracing something neither console is powerful enough to do so again why more vram?
both are still sub 60 fps so doesnt matter which one you buy@@mariust6769
@@gamingedition5165 Why are we seeing many games running better on PS5 than Series X then?
Great review/comparison
I hope they bring back exclusive games. So the games can use the consoles' full power. Also, they should stop making games for PS4/XBSS & switch.
Ehm, I'll happily take 500p if it takes to get this game to 60 fps on Series S. So not sure what you meant by it. I play on a sofa a few meters from a tv and don't notice the resolution much
You know that’s ps2 resolution right?
@@jhonbenedictbaltazar8996 Nintendo switch even runs some of heavier current gen games at 480p docked
I play like 720p happily on halo infinite at 120 fps
The graphics here look insanely good no matter what mode you use. Im just wowed. I’m glad we’re finally getting pure current gen games! This seems like it’s the first AAA title skipping last gen completely, and you can see it. Also, I think 30fps works well here because it looks cinematic. Normally I prefer 60fps (even on Cyberpunk 2077) when movement is fast paced, but here the environments make me enjoy the more cinematic feel of 30fps.
Mortal Kombat 1 skipped and Gotham Knights skipped already and NFS Unbound skipped and a lot more
@@Solidus155 I think the last two were being developed for last gen as well but the old gen versions were cancelled (as performance was so poor). Avatar was developed 100% for current gen.
For me 60fps is a must have!
What a Joke, never used to be an issue and games on Consoles were never about frame rates, but enjoyment. A game is enjoyable weither 30 or 60FPS, should not matter if its a good game and does not stop you enjoying it. Why is it so many get hung up on the 60fps crap, not needed, just play the games like they did in the 70's 80's and 90's and never considered framerates an issue. If you cannot just enjoy the games, without getting hung up on fps then a console is not for you, get a PC then. Consoles were never made to mimick a PC or try to be like one, they were designed to give arcade gaming, not PC gaming and thats the trouble
@@dennisrogers6786 "FOR ME"
@@dennisrogers6786games are not enjoyable in 30 fps.
@@drakefrs What a load of crap, Been playing games right from the first Pong game, the Atari 2700, Spectrum ZX81, master system, etc, and we did not worry about framerates or what they were. Did not stop the enjoyment of gaming. A PC player would say even 60fps is to slow. Think your just to spoiled
@@dennisrogers6786 then pay $500 for a console and $70 for a game to play it in 30 fps, let these companies rip you off if that’s what you like, not to mention that the ps5 is more expensive in some countries than it is in the states, who’s spoiled now?
Atleast console players got to experience a little bit of 60fps this gen. Didn’t last long.
A beautiful game.
I wait for this kind of game, 90% of the games are ugly story, ugly atmosphere, environment,etc this is a game where you want to stay, make me to fell better, happy etc
People need to realize they wanted 4k over 60 fps . Is 4k 60 fps possible? Yes. But not on games like this. 1440p 120fps is the target they should be hitting.
It's a ps5 sponsored tittle so I'm not surprised. Microsoft has failed blatantly to make developers use all capabilities of the series x. If this is happening with the regular ps5, imagine the differences with the pro.
This is exactly why I choose the PS5 over the SX version. All this "fancy stuff" built into the SX and nobody using it, even Microsoft's 1st party studios.
@@SOTVT i have both consoles and I enjoy them, but I'm more of an xbox fan and I got the series x first since is my favorite of the two, but it sucks having the superior hardware and yet most games run the same if not better on the ps5. I use the xbox more because gamepass is miles better than ps plus and I personally prefer the ergonomics of the series controller more.
Series x is 349.00 right now they dc bought that garbage
But Sony wont allow the use of the Pro, just like the did with PS5 and the Pro, the pro was wasted, you watch, Sony repeating the same. Same as the X is held back by the S
5:55 XBSX: 11fps, 33fps
5:55 PS5: 59fps, 56fps
6:04 XBSX: 45fps
6:04 PS5: 59fps
I'm not fanboying and all but I must say that the Series version really lacks optimisation. When you compare to Alan Wake 2 (a very demanding tittle), Remedy made the effort to properly optimize the game, even the Series S manages to be good
Worth noting it is not actually the same size on Series S and X.
The series S looks like it has better shadows
Am I the only one who truly doesn’t care about how clear it is? As long as it plays then I’m good
This game uses fsr 3.0 doesn't it?
2.0 on consoles
You can tell they ran out of hardware budget for this game, all destructible objects instantly turn into a different lower quality asset and falls right through the ground, no left overs or physics on them. Another next gen game that shines in the visuals compartment but flops hard everywhere else.
Truly one of the most ubisoft games of all time.
We need PS5 Pro ASAP
Which will fulfillyour expectations for a few months after its release.
Looks pretty good but would be nice if there where a third person option.
Xbox series s Is it worth buying only for Forza Horizon 5 and 2024 forza horizon 6 ?!! Bcoz I already have ps5 digital editon
So I don’t need xb sx
Upcoming fh6 will run 1080p 60fp without lag in series s or not ?! Can i buy or wait for next xbox console
ps5 digital edition lol Who tf buys ps5 digital edition lmao
PS5 PRO now destroy every f0cking xbox ahahaha
1:02
Why the fuck does the S look better than both the X and PS5???
i am waiting for ps5 pro
yeah and GTA 6 😊
What's the price gonna be in India?
Keep waitinhking won't be one
Called a pc
@@thepaperninja312375k ?
I do not think a PS5 pro or and XboxSX elite , can be justified for the extra expense for buying two Next Gen consoles, paid for the XboxSX would I be willing to fork out 100s more £/$ for an XboxSX Elite. Or (Vice Versa, which ever console you have).
I’m saying this because the Next Gen games we have or haven’t got yet do not Justify spending 100s more £/$ for Yet Another Next Gen console.
So, Quality mode 4k30 fps and Performance mode 2k60 fps ? Seems pretty good
Thats output resolution after FSR. Internal resolution is around 800-1000p in performance and 1200-1400p in quality mode.
But still good none the less.
I don't think consoles will truly be 9th gen until the ps5 pro and boosted series x (whatever they call it) comes out. I think the current series x and ps5 are kinda like gen 8.5 consoles and the pro/series x boosted will be the true 9th gen...then when the 10th gen comes graphics will be truly 60/120+ fps. so far the fps for the current consoles has been just marketing to sell us consoles, but the juice isn't there.
I don't think I Ps5 pro would be that much better. The PS4 pro is rumoured to have the same zen2 cores as the ps5 but clocked slightly higher and about 80% more gpu performance. So if the game is CPU bound you are not going to get a higher fps regardless of resolution. On the ps5 pro this game's performance mode would have the image quality of about 1800p, but performance would be similar.
Only very few games are actually CPU limited at 60 FPS… the Ryzen 3000 Chips in Series and PS5 Are very much capable of pushing 60+ FPS.
From what I hear from rumors the PS5 pro is only going to be 20% better that will not be enough to run GTA 6 smoothly and fast when it comes out in 2025 if that console upgrade is going to happen that year
@@Ziyoblader GTA 6 is definitely going to be running on the base ps5 and Xbox since that's what they're creating the game for since our consoles are still in the new gen era
Will they ever add it to other gaming devices like xbox one and so on?
On my Series x The Performance Mode Runs Great but The Graphic Mode stutters as hell ?
30fps Bro
I’m keeping my PS5 and upgrading to the PS6 when it comes
People are just lying the picture quality and the colours a clearly better on the Xbox series x
they doing this on purpose to fade out the series s😢
Not the fault of game developers than microsoft's potatobox can't keep up
Nah
It's just a matter of raw power. I think Series S has ¼ of Series X's GPU power, so no surprise why S isn't capable of holding that good with new and real current gen games.
Btw I think Series S owners know what they're paying. I'd like to get one and I already know that console won't perform as good as Series X/PS5
Bs not with GTA 6 coming to it way in 2025 2026
@@MichaelM28It's actually a genius idea by Xbox..... It's something will kill PS for good, remember this in 2025 while Xbox Series S is underpowered by Xbox and why they limiting it's power delivery making it less than even laptops
What are you smoking? It comes down to optimization. Since performance mode doesn’t run well on the big guys it’s clear this needed to be in the oven longer.
Would the ofdesy g5 be a good monitor for the game?
Where can I find the quality and performance mode on the Xbox?
Under setting. After going to settings go to video and you can switch it there. It’s either “video” or “graphics”. I think it’s video though.
@@DinkWhit Thank You man, appreciate It
@@lorenzo3136 no problem!
It's a miracle that this game does even run on the series s
Miracle No, Great Job
Clearly remember Sony saying the ps5 will be able to render graphics better than the avatar movie 😂😂
This game look so beautiful on PC. I played 2 days on 12600K, 32Gb DDR4, 4070 on 2K with DLSS Quality and Ultra Settings. Maybe it's the most beautiful game I have ever seen. PS5 can't show this beauty, cos PS5 is outdated for these 3years. I'm so glad that I sold my PS5 abd bought 4070 instead of it. I can play Dead Space, The Last Of Us 1, Avatar with so sharp image. I don't believe that PS5 Pro will be strong enough and won't be outdated for 2-3 years again.
Unbelievable how powerful is the Ps5 in almost all games than the series x.
More stable and higher fps or higher resolution and crisper image on Ps5.😮
I love it. 😊
lol it’s the same?
@@Inferno77665 what same?
@@partner313 it’s the first game in a while. Latest games seem to have the edge on the SX. But initially the ps5 did have better head to head. In fact it doesn’t seem stable on either ps5 or SX on performance mode none are maintaining the 60, what’s strange is they drop at different points. Needs optimised on both. But the SX definitely is turning things around from the initial year after release. Whatever your playing on you wouldnt notice a frame drop here or there. It’s just fanboys splitting hairs. This generation there’s very very minimal differences to even mention.
It's the same tech from AMD. You are just rooting for your console.
Sony's little doggy
Series s got 1080p 30fps
It's based on what display people have, u can't have a shit 4k tv and accept the game to look good. The reason why i didn't say monitors is because they have no upscaling technology because they are focused on fps. For example,high-end Sony and Samsung's image processing chips are so good at upscaling, it's comparable to a rtx 4080. And the test i see on this Channel is a monitor that does 4K 60 with no upscaling tech, no HDR, no Dolby vision, and it's qled,oled or qd-oled. So the test are pointless until the reviewer gets a great tv that dose 144hz at 4k
Thanks mate
When FSR3 update?
peapole who d;ont have any problem with 30fps are so lucky for me 30fps its playable
I’m only Here for Xbox Series X and PS5 (But I have an Xbox Series X).
Now they have a 40fps quality mode!
fsr3 is used i think for consoles but no frame gen just upscaling
What monitor would be the best a 1440p or 4k with ps5?
4k since most games can run at 4k on ps5
This is why my series x is collecting dust. PS5 always seems so much better overall. 🤔I only buy games for the PS5, series x is for exclusives.
So who's better?
Guerrilla's H:FW (2022)
For real... Who plays 30 fps on Ps5 and Xbox Seriesx?
Game is looking slightly sharper on Series X on either mode.
Nah, it's the same.
your imaginations
what graphics?
They need to create better consoles from the start and spend more time creating games and content
FSR 3 will save Series S don't worry guys
Why not PC in test?
No dought we need already console upgrade. PS5 pro asap
Xbox performance 🔥
Any chance we will get a 40fps mode on ps5 for 120hz tvs?
What😂
@@Kingkop38_ What what? It's a popular mode in some games but mostly Sony exclusives. Resolution of 4K mode but 10 frames more than usual 30 fps lock.
Would have been nice, but no. I think it’s mostly ps5 exclusives that get that bonus.
Not heart of it yet, but that should help with games like this.
@@Radek494 now does a ps5 or series x do 4K native . Not bloody likely. If it was it would be with unplayable frame rates.
1080p doesn't exist anymore ?
series s targets 1080. it's the resolution intended for that console. and works great btw
At this point the series S is holding back the series X
Nah these consoles aren’t powerful enough in general especially for full next gen games
Tf u mean, series x is at its full potential here, the only thing suffering here is series s fps, its not like they are sacrificing anything for the series s
This isn't holding back anymore, it's an obvious lack of optimisation on Series X
@@adven4615 not only is the series s holding back the series x, its holding back PC and PS5 as well.
It's for a reason: Xbox handheld device is targeting Series S performance.... So they forcing developers to target this level
Series S versión is GOALL !!
1:33 puede verse como el juego en ps5 ya estaba iniciado... en una pequeña fracción de tiempo puede verse el juego iniciado entre dos pantallas negras... realmente esto es falso, no me lo creo... en este test debería de ganar series s porque tiene que cargar menos nivel de texturas y su versión del juego es mas liviana.... por lo tanto me parece una comparación manipulada...
Same conclusion than gaming tech analyse
Better picture with less shimmering + less drops on PS5, more stable, no stuttering
+ Dualsense features
They are the same, stop looking for unexisting differences.
Yeah both poor performance and at different time. Times where ps5 stable then Xbox stable whilst ps5 drop frame rates. Video isn’t highest quality so difficult to tell if any other differences.
@@parazels83 the first scene with headquarters has ps5 dropping but not the series x but the cutscene later has series x dropping and the ps5 very little.. but playstation has marketing rights to this game so it's probably better in ps5 cause sony san diego people worked on it.
@@colinbrydon7659 look at gaming tech Channel vidéo, that's more accurate
@@parazels83 nope, not on a big display like 65
Watch gaming tech analyse video, there is si much shimmering in perf mode series x + lower resolution and bigger drops
Not "unexisting"
And important for users that want to choose their platform to play this game
Thanks
Unfortunately, the Series X version suffers from flickering image artifacts in various textures & vegetation...
This is probably due to the FSR...
I find this extremely annoying, especially in performance mode.
60 fps is the standard for my opinion. Nobody want 30 fps lol
Series S wow! 👏
So xbox x all the way as it should be
PLAYSTATION THE BEST ❤
This is one game that blows consoles out of the water on pc. I just can’t go back to consoles.
I think it's fix, the water really looked bad
@@СергейС-у4л that’s the biggest thing. But in some areas the textures just look really bad. The water is the worst it is so pixelated and terrible
DF said that actually this game runs pretty good compared to PC and we don't see the big differences that we see in Alan Wake 2....consoles hold pretty well here.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 just because digital foundry said it doesn’t mean I have to have the same standards. For me since switching from ps5 to an rtx 4080 build there is no comparison. I’d rather game on my pc any day of the week. If someone prefers consoles then more power to them. But someone else’s standards doesn’t mean they meet my standards.
It's obvious that you haven't played or completed Horizon:FW on PS5 on HDR TV OLED. This nonsense, only suitable for fans of Cameron's films, and little else. Boring, bland and unintelligent. HFW urinates and defecates it in a technical and playful way.
I have played 12 hours on series x and so far it's has good performance.
Jedi survivor was far worse performance wise.
Does it support keyboard and mouse on ps5?
Did you ever find out?
So nobodys gonna speak about some of worst water reflections and fucked up sky
Nope.
Waterfalls and clouds have quite bad dithering effect on them... Looks bad :/
it doesnt look next gen at all
How the F people ps5 is better? Did they sow the video or they bot?
It’s their hopes deluding their brains
No 40fps and vrr mode?
Nop! and without HDR, Ubi programmers are that lazy with PS5.