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  • @Spacedock
    @Spacedock  3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

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    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have the length and width swapped it's wingspan is longer than it's bow-stern length.

    • @orineboyd6346
      @orineboyd6346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @caspiandamari1046
      @caspiandamari1046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @brunotaylor4872
      @brunotaylor4872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @nelsonenzo6315
      @nelsonenzo6315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Deltarious
    @Deltarious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Scimitar Class Reman Warbird, Role: Plot Device.

    • @cmdraftbrn
      @cmdraftbrn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      armaments: overkill

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Weak-point: hard to reach but easy to exploit.

    • @st.6413
      @st.6413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      VC YT
      While technically true, there is such a thing as suspension of disbelief. In the logic of Star Treks universe, ships like the Reliant or the Collector can be accepted as believable by the films logic, the Scimitar breaks that. Still cool looking though.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@st.6413
      It obliterates suspension of disbelief 6 ways to Sunday. I do love the hell out of it in STO, though. Video game different than TNG-era movie.

  • @gregorymaroda4860
    @gregorymaroda4860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    This is like something I would have come up with when I was 9. "It has so many disruptors and it can fire them when cloaked and you can't ever find it, never ever, if it's cloaked and anyway it has TWO shields and it can disintegrate everyone on a spaceship...I mean planet!"

    • @gregorymuir1985
      @gregorymuir1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's the sort of lame excess you see with people who don't have the imagination to do something interesting.

    • @travisbishop782
      @travisbishop782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I feel like that about anything from the Warhammer 40k universe.

    • @LordOfNihil
      @LordOfNihil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i feel like the whole movie was a bit meh. like we've done this already (battle of the mutara nebula, battle for wolf 359, battle for sector 001, among others). or that part at the end where the crew of the freaking enterprise starts to give up and whining like a bunch of pansies. or the mind rape thing that they already covered in an entire episode. its only redeeming quality is that it wasnt star trek beyond. i mean the overall message that you reap what you sow, the battle between good and evil and the duality of human nature is good material but the overall execution was quite pedantic.

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That happens when a Star Trek movie is done by a Star Wars fan.

    • @gregorymaroda4860
      @gregorymaroda4860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MetalheadAndNerd huh? Are you confusing Star Trek: Nemesis with Star Trek (2009)?

  • @dminard1
    @dminard1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Nemesis gets a lot of criticism but it had one of the best Star Trek battles. Worth watching for that alone

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I've always likened it to the battle(s) between the Enterprise & Reliant in Wrath of Khan, had a similar kinda vibe with Picard vs Shinzon only higher stakes and a similar heart-wrenching sacrifice required for victory...

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@TheBigExclusive That was kinda the point though- the Enterprise is seen as being a top of the line ship, the federation flagship, and it gets owned instead of winning easily like it did in every other battle up to that point in the franchise. It was never meant to be a fair or even fight, it needed to be one-sided in order to force some drastic decisions ( ramming + data's sacrifice ) and drive the story/plot as such.

    • @Neilhammond64
      @Neilhammond64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheBigExclusive I would have loved to see the Phaser Lance score a few hits against it.

    • @duanscott2490
      @duanscott2490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@SuicideNeil The difference was that enterprise vs Reliant were two basically equal ships, so it was a test of captains. The Scimitar was a outrageously over powered considering it's origin. We have no reason to believe following previous cannon that the romulans or any of their subordinate species should be capable of this level technology. I mean this was totally out of the blue. Even much later on-screen cannon, (particularly ST Picard) doesn't show the romulans to have this level of tech. I mean, the Scimitar has virtually infinite shields and Infinite weapons. As someone else said, it's as if the ship was dreamed up by a 9 year old.

    • @aquamonkee
      @aquamonkee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Star Trek movie or not I'm not really interested in going to the movies for 'pew pew pew' Nemesis is almost 2 hours long, 2 VERY LONG HOURS, and 40 minutes of that is battle sequence

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    It's cloak has one other weakness, _telepathy._ Starfleet should have really mandated that they have at least one full Betazoid crewmember on every combat and exploration ship, just for utility.
    A basic empath like Deanna Troi was very useful on the Enterprise-D throughout its missions, imagine if she had the abilities (but not the personality) of her mother Luxwana…
    "Well, those robots gave us a bit of a problem, we haven't had so much trouble since those Ferengi - who are at least predictable and single minded… …Captain, there's a cloaked ship coming into range, Romulan, they want to play a bit of brinkmanship. Give me a link to tactical and I'll enter their coordinates, oh and their shields will engage on a frequency of 38.4753mhz".

    • @benjaminthomas8988
      @benjaminthomas8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That only worked because the Reman Viceroy already made the connection for Shinzon.

    • @krisgonynor689
      @krisgonynor689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@benjaminthomas8988 That's because Reman seem to be related to Romulans who are related to Vulcans who are telepathic. Deanna was only a empath with limited telepathic ability, imagine a fully trained Betazoid telepath or even a trained Vulcan telepath: they could sense oncoming ships by detecting their crews, find out mission critical information and should have had no trouble with Shinzon, he's a human clone after all. I do have to wonder if PSI abilities could detect a ship at warp as that humanoid minds don't work that fast.

    • @benjaminthomas8988
      @benjaminthomas8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@krisgonynor689 Where are you getting this? Remans are not related to Romulans. Romulans are ancient Vulcans that when they left Vulcan and settled Romulus they enslaved the Remans who were native to the system. That why the Remans were in the mines. They say this throughout Star Trek and the enslavement itself in the Nemesis movie. Second, Vulcans have to physically touch you the read your mind. Remans are obviously better at it.

    • @stephandolby
      @stephandolby 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjaminthomas8988 Almost like leaving an active connection open for a hack. :)

    • @benjaminthomas8988
      @benjaminthomas8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stephandolby Yes. Exactly. There are varying degrees of telepaths. Probably varying in range. Betazoids are full on telepaths. Remans are probably a little better because the one in the movie was able to push Shinzons thoughts on Troi and only her because she is half Betazoid. Romulans and Vulcans can not do this. Romulans less so because they did not develop their skills like Vulcans have. Troi used the connection which was unique to that situation. Troi would not have been able to do that otherwise. Reman Viceroy was trying to break the connection.

  • @BarrettL1970
    @BarrettL1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    She is the Bismarck... fearsome...unmatched one on one yet had a short life.

    • @austinkersey2445
      @austinkersey2445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking the Yamato but that works too.

  • @Neilhammond64
    @Neilhammond64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Nemesis should have had Riker take command of the Titan while the Enterprise went to Romulus. Then the movie could have been about Picard and his new first officer learning to work with each other while fighting the Scimitar. Then Riker could show up at the end with a Federation fleet including Voyager under the command of Tuvok. Then instead of a dragged out battle, we could have had 10 minutes of Starfleet kicking ass.

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a good idea, unfortunately it wouldn't erase the rest of that craptastic movie

  • @Excedrine
    @Excedrine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "She's gotta' have a tail pipe." - Lieutenant Nyota Uhura.

    • @omega311888
      @omega311888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EXACTLY! its still expelling exhaust as it moves! major oversight on the writer's part!

  • @fuzzyaziraphale4228
    @fuzzyaziraphale4228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm wondering if the Scimitar was developed for use against the Dominion. It does seem like the ideal ship for launching a first strike against the Great Link in the event of another war.

    • @erichunsaker4969
      @erichunsaker4969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wouldn't surprise me if it was originally designed for that purpose but maybe the Scimitar project took too long and wasn't done by the time Romulus went to war with the Dominion, being abandoned as a result. Perhaps then the Remans hijacked the project and its prototype for their own goals to liberate their people.

  • @bobthecopywriter
    @bobthecopywriter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Interesting - I'd still love to see you cover the triple-nacelle Niagara Class, the forgotten kitbash from the Battle of Wolf 359.

  • @iampig0125
    @iampig0125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Ironic" quote palpatine

  • @Anaguma79
    @Anaguma79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ah yes, the Scimitar. For when you want to make the Prometheus-class look measured and reasonable by comparison.

  • @needparalegal
    @needparalegal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Imagine designing the greatest warship in history but leaving the power core completely unprotected from hand phasers...... 100x worse than the Death Star exhaust port flaw.

    • @Ithirahad
      @Ithirahad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really; this is somewhat more believable as an engineering limitation. Might well be that the chamber walls are as close as any solid or energy barrier can physically get to the energy flow without disrupting it or reflecting thalarons at the crew or something.

    • @RUNTHROUGHDATAPE
      @RUNTHROUGHDATAPE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair they probably would think they were well protected from anyone not wanted being able to get on this ship with a phaser.

    • @needparalegal
      @needparalegal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RUNTHROUGHDATAPE Considering how easily Picard and Data ran around the ship on TWO occassions that would the second worse flaw on the ship...

    • @needparalegal
      @needparalegal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RUNTHROUGHDATAPE Same for Federation ships, but they still put a security controlled force field around the warp core.

    • @nightterrors2976
      @nightterrors2976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Think about it tho, the Darth Star exhaust port was invariably opened as compared to the Thalaron reactor of the Scimitar. The exhaust port is protected by inordinate amounts of weaponry. On the other hand, the Thalaron reactor is only vulnerable when activated, and is thus only vulnerable when inside the ship. Not to mention the exorbitant amounts of weaponry on the Scimitar, the cloaking device, and the shields. So yeah

  • @agentraf
    @agentraf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This reminds me of that one video of the defunct series where the Scimitar was pitted against Sovereign...still, great job, as always!

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was one of Spacedock's best entries.

    • @autumngottlieb3071
      @autumngottlieb3071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's kind of a shame that that series didn't continue past a couple entries. I would have loved to see Morsam-Pattern Seraph vs Nssis-Class Clawcraft.

  • @jeremybuxman7555
    @jeremybuxman7555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "It is the awesomest ship evar, and is able to be better than your stuff. Designed by your little brother, the Scimitar is just kewl and shoots a bazillion guns for hours."

  • @draco84oz
    @draco84oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A couple of ships of note that show up in Star Trek Online (where its available as a Tier 5 Deadnought Warbird):
    The I.R.W. Leahval functioned as Empress Sela's flagship and flagship of the Romulan Star Empire until Sela's disappearance over Brea III in 2409. This ship carries the Thalaron weapon.
    The I.R.W. Valdore was captained by Commander/Empress Donatra until she was assimilated by the Borg somewhere around 2390. It shows up again as the final boss in the "Khitomer Vortex" scenario, although the only weapons it carries are Thalaron weapon and a launch bay full of support probes.
    The R.R.W. Lleiset is technically not a Scimitar-class, but part of the Tulwar-subclass. It was launched by the Romulan Republic in 2409 to provide them with a Flagship on par with the Enterprise, and is currently captained by Commander Tirau Jarok.
    Also, the Republic later develops their own Dreadnoughts that have definite design inspirations from the Scimitar.

    • @Eucep
      @Eucep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For added note, there are currently 6 variants in game, three of the original Scimitar design at T5 (Scimitar, Tulwar and Falchion) and three newer ones at T6 (Khopesh, Flambard and Shamshir).

    • @Tstahl962
      @Tstahl962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the Shamshir :) It's a great ship, and was my first T6.

  • @venomgeekmedia9886
    @venomgeekmedia9886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great breakdown. though i have to say the music choice seemed off and Alister's narration could have been so much more powerful, this is a frightening mythical ship but the breakdown doesn't reflect that. and i say that as somone who has covered the Scimitar in Depth.

  • @goatranchgaming2922
    @goatranchgaming2922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think you should do a Video on the USS Pasteur that would be interesting to see

  • @johnsteiner3417
    @johnsteiner3417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The dimensions listed are incorrect to the image. The wingspan is clearly more than the hull length.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *tomato tomahto -George Gershwin*
      *it's not a toomah -Arnold Schwarzenegger*

  • @WildHorseProductions
    @WildHorseProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    This is the ship you get when you use cheat codes...

    • @Neilhammond64
      @Neilhammond64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Or grind for 200 hours and grief newbies.

    • @WildHorseProductions
      @WildHorseProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Neilhammond64 Or pay USD 300$ for !

  • @LordOfNihil
    @LordOfNihil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the one thing i like about nemesis is that its full of descent references (you know the 90s 6dof shooter). even the scimitar looks like an overgrown pyro gx. and that scene where they are flying the fighters through the ship.

  • @nicholasmorsovillo2752
    @nicholasmorsovillo2752 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember the Romulans had built the D'Deridex Class Warbirds and they were very large as well at measuring over:
    1,041.42 meters long
    847.92 meters wide
    289.92 meters high
    By comparison it was larger than the Federation Galaxy Class and the Scimitar Class was at least nearly 7 times the size of the Federation Sovereign Class.

  • @cranbers
    @cranbers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video I learned alot about that ship I was always curious about. It was neat watching a shihp firing under cloak and no matter how many times it was hit they just couldn't make a dent. It's funny to see early days of big actors who knew the young picard clone would become venum in later years.

  • @cyanpompano8695
    @cyanpompano8695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for including that one

  • @rifleman2c997
    @rifleman2c997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Step 1: Take Scimitar
    Step 2: Load up on Cannons
    Step 3: Cannon Scatter Volley 3 to victory.

  • @CuriousMind477
    @CuriousMind477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was always one of my favorite ships to use in Star Trek Online. Just so cool

  • @Zamun
    @Zamun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the content.

  • @ChrisTian-ed8ol
    @ChrisTian-ed8ol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm about too DM for the first time this weekend. WorldAnvil will be awesome.

  • @RoninShinobi88
    @RoninShinobi88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I don't care what you say the Battle of the Bazin Rift was a good spectacle even if the ship was so OP it broke cannon and logic.

    • @TheDjbz
      @TheDjbz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It did look cool but it was effectively just a rehash of the Enterprise vs Chang’s bird of Prey from Undiscovered country except the bad guy didn’t really need the cloak and could’ve fought without it and still kicked the Enterprise’s ass

    • @DrakeAurum
      @DrakeAurum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@TheDjbz It was much better than the fight in Undiscovered Country. In that battle the Enterprise was effectively just sitting there the whole time gradually getting its ass kicked until Spock suddenly spontaneously invented the cloakbuster torpedo. In this battle every starship and crew is an active participant.

    • @RoninShinobi88
      @RoninShinobi88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@DrakeAurum Not to mention when the Excelsior got there Captain Sulu literally said: "Alright now we've given her something else to shoot at." And then the Excelsior just stood there at let themselves get shot at.

    • @TheDjbz
      @TheDjbz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      DrakeAurum Well Undiscovered Country had model ships rather than CGI which is waaaay harder to make do cool stuff without literally breaking them. And I believe there was some legal issue with the phasers (for some reason).
      I maintain the UC battle is better because of the tension. It’s a “can Kirk & co find a way to hit Chang’s ship before they are destroyed?”
      While Nemesis was “Even if they can hit it it’s shields are just gonna let them pretty much ignore the shot” situation. The only reason Shinzon lost was because he decided to park his ass in front of the Enterprise with the cloak off so he could get rammed.

    • @RoninShinobi88
      @RoninShinobi88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheDjbz Wrong, Troi found them using her Telepathy to reverse the Mind Rape Shinzon's First Officer did to her and then Worf hit them with a spread of Quantum Torpedoes disabling their cloak.

  • @jellygoo
    @jellygoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Sounds like it was decided to give it all the advantages of exisiting ships without their disadvantages.
    Well, except for anti-plotarmor of course...

  • @HIWTYLSL
    @HIWTYLSL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve actually been super interested in using world anvil for a while now

  • @ethancarlson1973
    @ethancarlson1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well made.

  • @greggpennington966
    @greggpennington966 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool space warship ! I want one for Christmas !

  • @michaelsweet8397
    @michaelsweet8397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job! 👍

  • @racspartan1
    @racspartan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your Work 👍

  • @michaeld.uchiha9084
    @michaeld.uchiha9084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One word to this ship.
    OP

  • @dangerbeans9639
    @dangerbeans9639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    they got the length and width reversed. Which is odd considering they got the dimensions right on the scimitar vs Reaper video that came out 4 years before this one.

  • @tisFrancesfault
    @tisFrancesfault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of people don't like it but I kinda love it.
    Hell some people it breaks cannon, it's too op etc but I don't think it is.
    It's not to unreasonable to imagine it's development.
    Side note: without plot contrivance I would still suggest a Borg cube ( maybe a tactical one) as still quite capable at taking it out.

  • @emPtysp4ce
    @emPtysp4ce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do more Eve Online ships, there's so many to pick from. My favorite is the Jackdaw, but any one of them would be cool. I know you already did the Tempest, but a supercarrier like the Nyx or a titan like the Avatar are some of the most interesting ones to talk about.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @rsbandbj1
    @rsbandbj1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you image if picard and left his rifle on overload to blow up the reactor, and teleported away?
    Surely, the writers would never decide to have 2 main characters risk their lives on something so simple right?

    • @Hartzilla2007
      @Hartzilla2007 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Enterprise's transporters only worked long enough to beam Picard over, hence Data having to go over with the portable device.

  • @SheldonAdama17
    @SheldonAdama17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How in the world was Shinzon able to build this right under the nose of the Romulans? That’s like someone on the FBI’s Most Wanted List building an aircraft carrier without the US Navy or Coast Guard noticing!

    • @joelhume
      @joelhume 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a really good analogy, Star Trek is supposed to be at least somewhat grounded in some kind of reality. The Enterprise (or Romulan Warbird or any of the top of the line ships of the big powers) represents the pinacle of technology of a vast interstellar organisation with huge scientific and industrial resources yet somehow the Remans just come up with a ship that superior in every way in secret with no one realising? Its like some backwater country suddenly coming up with a warship thats better than anything the USA, Russia or China has.

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was really hoping Daniel was going to take this one but oh well can't have it all, just happy we finally got a breakdown for the Scimitar it's been one I've long hoped we'd get.

  • @nickmitsialis
    @nickmitsialis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At first I thought it was some sort of Kilrathi fighter craft==Daniel you really must revisit the Wing Commander and Freespace universes.

  • @CaptainSovereign
    @CaptainSovereign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sovereign class:
    Finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary!

    • @Cerbyo
      @Cerbyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the warbird would rape even the sovereign class. would take 2 or 3+ for a fight

  • @Bamboozled1917
    @Bamboozled1917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "You know who I hate? Remans."
    "Ew, they're the worst."

  • @joeerickson516
    @joeerickson516 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "52 disruptor cannons, 27 photon torpedo launchers, front and aft shields."🛡
    Worf.

    • @Akira2805
      @Akira2805 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Warship Voyager: 30 Torpedo Tube's, 25 Phaser Banks, Biogenic Weapon Agents, small garrison of Borg including Seven Of Nine, full shield barrier, extra Ablative armored plating. Crewed by violent sociopaths. Lol Although a simulated type ship. I think Warship Voyager would give this one a damn good fight. Possibly inflicting actual battle damage to it. Being a much smaller craft, and very manouverable at sub light speeds, and nearly no blind spots.

  • @alternativefashiongothicga7
    @alternativefashiongothicga7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's in online seen it a few times plus faced it in star trek bridge commander too .

  • @Maniac742
    @Maniac742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think I could settle for any ONE of the Scimitar's "cheat" mechanics to make it a sort of boss level adversary for a final battle, but adding all of them together just makes it insanely stupid. Perfect Cloak that you can shield and fire from... ok. That on its own is not so over-the-top, and it's also been done before. We saw this mechanic in Star Trek VI, so perfecting that technology isn't so far off the map. Primary AND secondary shielding. Ok. So this ship gets by on impenetrable defense. That is not an absurd tactic. If you can render your enemy's weapons inert, then you can essentially fire at them from any position with impunity. Again, alone it is not so over-the-top. 52 disruptor banks. Ok, so this gets by on overwhelming fire power. In gamer terminology we would call this winning trades. You take 3 phaser hits and in return you deal 52. Then it doesn't matter if your defenses match theirs, because there is no way you are going to incur less damage than you receive in any engagement. You might take a few hits to the hull, but they'll be a smoldering space wreck. BUT ADDING ALL OF THESE TOGETHER IS JUST INSANELY POOR WRITING. I don't mind gimmick ships, ships that excel at a single thing in order to best their opponents by always defining the engagement on their own terms, but this combination of characteristics just makes the ship stupidly over-powered and unbelievable. Add the Thelaron radiation super-weapon on top of that and its just retarded.

    • @stars9084
      @stars9084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One theory I’ve seen which might go some way towards explaining this is that the Thalaron generators also served to provide the ship with power, at unprecedented levels

  • @MatthewBluefox
    @MatthewBluefox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Scimitar is a soaring soul, as free as a mountain warbird. :)

  • @twotailedavenger
    @twotailedavenger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The irony doesn't stop with it being adopted by the Romulans - in the Hobus timeline depicted primarily in Star Trek Online, the Scimitar-class IRW Leahval serves as the personal flagship of Empress Sela.

  • @Lukos0036
    @Lukos0036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My most used ship type in STO followed only by the fleet Shepard and fleet Mogai.

  • @AdmiralJT
    @AdmiralJT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Favorite ship of star trek

  • @fuckyouleftube
    @fuckyouleftube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i own this ship in STO on it's own it is nothing special but after putting some very good plasma beams on this ship and some epic shields combine with full spread torpedo and some other consoles this thing (USED CORRECTLY) is a beast! but alas i see so many people complain it is not that great but 90% of that is failure to use this ship as intended. People do not use the de cloaking damage bonus, They do not use the cloak in a way to position them selves for a VERY nasty strike on intended target,They do not use other players to drop said targets shields that maximizes a devastating full spread torp attack.
    The most common arguments are it turns to slow. Well yes it does turn slow but that can be fixed with traits and endeavors. My scimitar has now a +12 turn rate and even more while cloaked (taking advantage of surprise and good positioning) off sets this 100%. Most of these types of complaints come from those who use cannons rather then beams. Beams 360 deg fire arc with a SLIGHT trade off on damage witch is then off set by the fact that i can hit you at ANY angle. Cannons 90 deg fire arc in some cases a significant boost in damage but this is off set due to the fact that your target has to be in front of you. Smaller ships can absolutely run circles around you effectively negating you ever getting a clear shot BEAMS for the win :D but in closing i have to say this has to be one of my most fave ship in STO it is an absolute joy to use (if done correctly) and a nightmare for the tactically inept or in experienced ship captain. This ship by no means is new player friendly in any way until some combat knowledge can be learned to properly use this cloak to your advantage.

    • @Asghaad
      @Asghaad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i havent played for a while but i used all weapons slots for Antiproton beams, combined with offensive tactical skills, speccing into criticals and using Kemocite laced weapons it can literally delete whole fleets of enemy ships in seconds.
      But later i swapped it for Vorgon Ryn'kodan Carrier - just as much firepower with much higher durability

  • @zintosion
    @zintosion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn this was one fierce looking ship

  • @yukin1990
    @yukin1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!! Star trek Reman Scimitar!!

  • @therealcrisis8439
    @therealcrisis8439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you have switched the numbers there a bit. The width (Wingspan) should be higher than the length of the ship, unless it flies sideways...

  • @mrtencza
    @mrtencza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A beast in STO!

  • @NickdeVera
    @NickdeVera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There should be a showdown of the Mary Sue ships: Scimitar, Prometheus, Vengeance

  • @archmageofmetal8883
    @archmageofmetal8883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did I just instinctively know the quote was going to be "She's a predator"...

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's THE quote about the Scimitar.

  • @carolheward6479
    @carolheward6479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the romulan ships in nemesis were valdor class. Good vid

  • @andrewbutton2039
    @andrewbutton2039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has a small weakness in its cloak, it falters slightly when dropping to STL. It's not much of a weakness but could perhaps be exploited with some appropriate tactical bait and run warps.

  • @ohlawd3699
    @ohlawd3699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder how well it would do up against a Borg cube? That would be a dope battle! 😊👍

    • @aikrichter5403
      @aikrichter5403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if it has 5 times the firepower of a normal ship, than it would be a fight 5 normal ships against a borg cube. as long as you don't toss at least one deltaflyer in it, they would have no chance :-)

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I imagine it was built to fight the Dominion and the Borg. The Thalaron weapon should disintegrate every drone on the ship, which as Picard showed in First Contact is an effective way of beating them. So Scimitar wins. And the Thalaron weapon apparently ignores shields, so no adapting to it.

  • @c.trammell
    @c.trammell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got CHILLS.

  • @Jaydee-wd7wr
    @Jaydee-wd7wr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    It’s cool but it’s like it was designed by a child,
    -Ooh it’s invisible,
    -Has 5x the firepower of all other ships
    -It has a source of infinite power and can destroy all life
    -It has 60 shielded strike craft
    -It has the best sensors ever designed
    Etc. It’s dumb.

    • @curseofgladstone4981
      @curseofgladstone4981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Don't forget faster than the enterprise

    • @ScorpioHighlander
      @ScorpioHighlander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Not to mention it was all designed and constructed in secret by a group of rebels from a second class citizen species typically used for slave labor.

    • @USAgent-gk8es
      @USAgent-gk8es 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@curseofgladstone4981 Every new alien ship that kicks the Enterprise's ass, is faster, its a trend at this point.

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's an exaggeration even if it is funny. Someone decided to perfect Chang's cloak fire technology, it has a bunch of cannons and torpedoes, but it's just got enough to fit on its wings, that battle wasn't long enough for the Scimitar's power to be of concern. Didn't use its fighters because it knows that they'd just get merked, I didn't actually find the sensors all that impressive. And Romulans are the superweapon guys. The cloak was a superweapon, the Plasma Torpedo was a superweapon. They use a black hole as a warp core. The only thing about it that's out of nowhere is the Thalaron weapon. If they'd just made it protomatter based that would be something that already existed and was known to be dangerous.

    • @Jaydee-wd7wr
      @Jaydee-wd7wr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      3Rayfire, yeah but it gets ridiculous when you have 4 superweapons on one ship, don’t forget it was made by an inferior rebel force.

  • @user-co8uy5rb2s
    @user-co8uy5rb2s ปีที่แล้ว

    Thry needed fleets of these for the Borg and Dominion.

  • @schwarzerritter5724
    @schwarzerritter5724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't forget it was build in a cave.
    Apparently Remulans are an entire species of Tony Starks.

  • @JustTooDamnHonest
    @JustTooDamnHonest ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why the Scimitar from Star Trek defeated Sovereign from Mass Effect from your first versus video long ago SD.

  • @RobertGracie
    @RobertGracie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Shes a Predator" with that amount of firepower onboard her shes a monster....no one expected the Remans to build such a bloodthirsty ship!

  • @joeerickson516
    @joeerickson516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "She's a predator!"
    Picard.

  • @hamishsewell4214
    @hamishsewell4214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Despite what some people say, I love the ship! Next Vid Suggestion: Phalanx, the mobile fortress-monastery of the Imperial Fists

    • @lukasperuzovic1429
      @lukasperuzovic1429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, especially when the Ship's AI decide to work and activates the Causality Weapons

    • @lamalien2276
      @lamalien2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You like this lame hunk of plotarmor AND you're a 40K fan? Imagine my surprise!

    • @lukasperuzovic1429
      @lukasperuzovic1429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lamalien2276 Cool story bro, nice gate keeping too.

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would've been fine with this ship if it was a lot less powerful then it was. Have the "shields up while cloaked" have a semi-exploitable flaw where it fails a little and _can_ be detected, and/or do NOT have its shields be nowhere near as strong as they were presented as (a fierce battle against a Sovereign Class and two Norexan Warbirds, shields still at 70% strength).
      Overall, just make it _feasible_ that this ship *can* be taken down and it's just not easy. With the approach they went with, the Scimitar is basically impossible to be beaten. A ship like this makes sense with something like the Borg, but this was developed by the Remans or even stolen from the Romulans, either case which should NOT be this overpowered based on what we've seen prieviously. (heck, the Remans being a dominated race used only as slaves would have nowhere near the capacity to develop something MILES BETTER then what their opressors could field, it doesn't make sense)

    • @Stronghand-yw1lk
      @Stronghand-yw1lk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lamalien2276 you dare to speak such heresy! (Calls the local Lord Inquisitor)

  • @grantt1589
    @grantt1589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this ship do much I spent $30 to buy it in star trek online

  • @davidlivingston9169
    @davidlivingston9169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a video on the Heracles Class Heavy Colonial Cruiser from the Sun & Sacrifice DLC of Battlestar Galactica Deadlock!!!

  • @onin-zh2wm
    @onin-zh2wm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Star Trek Vi: cloaked bird of prey. Star Trek Generation: cloaked bird of prey. Star Trek Nemesis: cloaked warbird.

  • @ComicBookGuy420
    @ComicBookGuy420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do the scavenger ship from The Orville?

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of a Jem'Hadar battleship

  • @GrandSupremeDaddyo
    @GrandSupremeDaddyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Mr Worf, give me a full phaser spread, zero elevation, all banks on my mark.*
    *Scan for shield impacts, stand-by photon torpedos.*

  • @anto-mac
    @anto-mac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    People complain about the scimitar yet are happy with super star destroyers and death stars this shit is great and the battle is fantastic and tells the story or the vetran captain against a young captain with a much more powerful ship and was still beaten by been over confedent

  • @0predaking0
    @0predaking0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching and hearing about this Scimitar somehow with a little modifications here and there and it could pass as a Sith Fighter instance of dreadnought.

  • @thesciguy4823
    @thesciguy4823 ปีที่แล้ว

    Basic World building 101: The Scimitar was the FIRST ship that could fire from cloak AND have it's shields up while cloaked. This is how you world build folks. There was never a ship that could do these things through series and 9 other movies. If you always lazily write you don't build tension towards this event. Real fans of the series knew how huge this was.

  • @Greywolf905
    @Greywolf905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you got the dimensions for length and width switched.

  • @GUNVALKERIE
    @GUNVALKERIE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ever thought about doing a ship breakdown of the EVE ONLINE ships? 🤔🙂

  • @autumngottlieb3071
    @autumngottlieb3071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks cool. That's the only good thing I have to say here.

  • @noahmacaulay2810
    @noahmacaulay2810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you do a remake of the saber class escort?

  • @e.l.wallace9060
    @e.l.wallace9060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a episode on the USS Titan?its Rikers ship after nemisis

  • @anndra8687
    @anndra8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a Romulan fleet with Scimitar, Mogai and D'deridex warbirbs going against a Klingon fleet of Negh'vahr and Vor'cha battlecruisers and Birds of Prey

  • @daiatnara971
    @daiatnara971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Pity the Remans didn't spend another couple of days working on the design, I'm sure they could've figured out how to make it go warp 10 without turning the crew into catfish as well.

  • @theodoreslavo5385
    @theodoreslavo5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These Romulans fought with honor.

  • @helvis7336
    @helvis7336 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    god the reactor on that thing must have enormous output to power shields weapons and cloaking field at the same time!

  • @Jdne199311
    @Jdne199311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Finally getting the recognition it deserves

    • @peco0012
      @peco0012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      she’s a beautiful ship ain’t she?

    • @TheEDFLegacy
      @TheEDFLegacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely!

    • @lamalien2276
      @lamalien2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peco0012 I liked the warbirds the Romulans had better.

    • @peco0012
      @peco0012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LAM Alien, of course. Romulan ships are majestic.

  • @stephenbond1990
    @stephenbond1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do the adamant frigate or arachne cruiser from battlestar galactica deadlock please?

  • @jamieolberding7731
    @jamieolberding7731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spacedock
    246K subscribers The Scimitar Class Reman Warbird is a great ship that's fast, maneuverable, powerful, and super tough for a colossal ship designed as a one manned Armada. I would really like to see this ship go toe to toe with an Imperial II class Star Destroyer. In my opinion, the Reman Warbird Scimitar has the huge advantage in this situation, because of it's advanced double shielding, highly adapted Cloaking Device, superior fire power, fighter complement, speed, and also awesome maneuverability.

  • @zenmaster24
    @zenmaster24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    do we see the scimitar class anywhere else? would be cool to have the abrams universe uss vengeance fight it

  • @jasonrobbins6944
    @jasonrobbins6944 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember (Mid to late 90’s) there was a Simon and Schuster PC program/game that allows for the creation of new UFP Starfleet fan designs. (Mostly just kitbashes, still a good idea) is there anything like that out now that’s... good?

  • @archades115
    @archades115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe that the Scimitar was being developed by the Romulans, along with the Mogai class. I suspect it was developed to deal with the Dominion battleships that required multiple capital ships to take down. However, such a costly ship would demand too much resources to finish in time. I do believe that the Remans stole the unfinished prototype, perfected its technologies, and finished the Scimitar. But this is all speculation.

  • @ascelot
    @ascelot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone explain how the length (front to back) is bigger/longer than width (wingtip to wingtip)?

  • @shadowzone2588
    @shadowzone2588 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you rhink you could cover the dominion dreadnough at some point

  • @Marcus51090
    @Marcus51090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The talshiar are absolutely rubbish for not knowing this was under construction lol

  • @shengyi1701
    @shengyi1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    52 disruptor banks, 45 photon torpedo launchers ..... she’s a predator!

  • @Kalebfenoir
    @Kalebfenoir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ah, now THERE is a ship worthy of the title of Dreadnought. Love the Scimitar. Even without its Death Beam radiation gun, its still one hell of a ship. Starfleet needs to step up its game.

    • @dboymax1
      @dboymax1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I want Starfleet make an OP Super Dreadnought ship for once that rivals or beats other dreadnought ships...

    • @Kalebfenoir
      @Kalebfenoir 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dboymax1 given the species they keep encountering that either have similar ships or things even bigger or more powerful... might be a good idea to at least have a few. Lol.