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Why don't you check into the fact that the Hansen's were abducted by the border making 7 of 9 but also Admiral hansen was Killed by the Borg and the battle of Wolf 359 on the Melbourne. Were they related? Was Admiral Hanson 7 of 9's Grandfather
Borg only send one single Cube at the time, because that way, they always win. -If the Borg win, they win. -If the enemy wins, either through superior firepower or exploitation of a weakness, sending only one Cube prevents the loss of an entire fleet and the collected data is worth the loss of the cube.
And the military pressure to advance only increases the value of their inevitable victory. The federation lost 39 ships to a single cube at Wolf 359, and still lost at least 30 ships in the battle of sector 001 despite having made incredible advancements in both weapon systems and employing actual warships dedicated to fighting the borg. All they need to do is send TWO cubes.
When you really stop and think about it, the Borg are just a vinculum building more of itself out of available materials using nanomachines. I think they count as a superorganism.
Infinite adaptability. The first cube failed but the second would be tailored to fight that target. The federation actually defeated this tactic by adapting and creating true warships with variable frequency weapons instead of the half arsed "starships" they had at wolf 359. I think this is why by voyager you see borg ships using conventional yet extremely powerful shields. The federation showed the borg their subspace defences were useless when species used these variable frequency weapons.
"You can't outrun them, you can't destroy them. If you damage them, the essence of what they are remains. They regenerate and keep on coming. Eventually you will weaken, your reserves will be gone. They are relentless!" - Q
@@priest2001 Is it really surprising though? How do you write an antagonist as powerful as the Borg, that your protagonists can still credibly win against? The writers had no alternative but to nerf them, or introduce gimmicks like Species 8472. Doesn't mean I don't miss the implacable menace that was TNG's version of the Borg.
Until they come up against ethnically diverse female space Jesus. Mikey Burnhan wil defeat the Borg and forever end them in the first act of an episode. And then the Discovery crew will have a good cry about it for the next two acts.
The cube remains one of the most unsettling spacecraft designs in the history of sci-fi. It's the quintessential example of Sinister Geometry- just a huge, regular shape that moves around on its own. Other examples include the cylindrical 'Whale Probe' from Star Trek IV, the Doomsday Machine, the angel Ramiel from Neon Genesis Evangelion, Khaak ships from the X Universe and so on.
I see you are knowledgable Sir ;) But I always considered Ramiel to be the least fear-inducing one since it does not look organic. I mean Lilith, that one is creepy as hell! And I do liek the Khaak.
Perhaps the single scariest thing about the Borg when I first learned about them was that there were no individuals, no egos to trick or blind spots to exploit and nothing to relate to, all identity had been removed long ago. The introduction of a "Borg Queen" destroyed that image and lessened them in my eyes.
I agree. Having a Queen makes them too understandable and “natural.” We know how animals work which have queens, we know and can appreciate that system. It’s familiar, maybe even comfortable. They have a moral to serve. But the borg before the queen were super scary as you said. They were completely pitiless and ruthless, truly monsters.
@@evalramman7502 yeah, that was more or less it. They felt that while having the Borg be this leaderless collective worked for TV, for a movie, they would need some kind of main villain to confront
God those high definition phaser beams from First Contact are gorgeous, as are the Torpedo effects. Absolute Titanium standard in Star Trek weapons effects.
Yeah, theres various bits i like over the whole series, but that battle was the single best looking, balls out fight i think has been put to film. And the E swooping in....👏👏👏👏👏👏
They have no centralized systems. Except the vinculum. And the central plexus. And the queen chamber. And... The TNG writers knew how to keep the Borg scary. Too bad the Voyager writers didn't.
@@ShiftyMcGoggles I got the impression that the Picard writers were trying to frame the Borg more as an advanced, dead civilization rather than an existential threat. And if you ignore Voyager that works well: a single Borg ship that is derelict and an object of intense scrutiny and interest is a really neat take after the events of Descent, especially with Hugh's involvement. I feel like there's some neat storytelling to do within that framework, but I'm not sure that's the direction the writers are going in the upcoming season(s).
@@the_snobot To be honest, that summarises a lot of the plot elements of Picard. Interesting ideas, but without the writing chops to properly work it into trek series, or more than a cursory glance at the source material. I have a feeling they didn't get the script checked over by other people either, since the issues with it are more egregious that Voyager's torpedo count.
@@ShiftyMcGoggles Neat ideas with no justification for their existence seem to be a running theme in multiple overglorified fanfic stories these days. "Who cares if it doesn't make sense with the established worldbuilding/characters/history, I want more content!"
0:41 The cube looks like the coolest thing ever built exclusively out of what's left over after you pop all the pieces of your model ship/airplane out of the kit.
The secret to defeating a Borg cube is to get one side all the same colour and then work your way from there. No wait a minute sorry. I'm thinking of a Rubiks cube.
Using Transformer technology as a virus to expose onto individual cubes in order to change a Borg cube into a Rubix will likely ruin the cube's defensive integrity. Always use this tactic to destroy Borg cubes!
even when they used telepaths to scare away shadows those ships were still taken seriously.... the awesome thing about the shadows is no words had to be spoken, they appear and attack then leave, the borg actually tell their prey they're coming lolz but the borg are still a fate nobody wants
Thank you for presenting the borg adaptation as a thing with limits, like it was shown in most places, and not invincible space magic that a lot of Trek secondary and fan media makes it out to be. If anything, it's more a problem with Federation phaser tech than it is an invincible shielding...
@@mryellow6918 How the drones reacted to kinetic weapons in First Contact, and the anti-borg sniper rifle that Ezri played around with in one episode of DS9 agree with you.
In the Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force video game there's a weapon called an I-MOD, short for Infinity Modulator, which was specifically designed to get around Borg adaptation. To me the way that game presented the Borg made sense.
I love the Borg. Even with a few of the changes Voyager made to them, I still think they're awesome. The one main thing I detested about the usage of the Borg was when Janeway, Tuvok and Torres were assimilated. The way this panned out totally undercut the severity of what assimilation is. They had no idea if their bodies were going to be mutilated to the point of amputated limbs, yet it was all like 'we'll just get Doc over here to fix us up.'
The way I've understood the whole amputated limb thing, especially if you're referring to that scene in First Contact, is this, they only amputated damaged limbs. Like if the person who was being assimilated already wore a prosthetic or had it damaged fighting the Borg drones to begin with. Not every assimilated person had limbs hacked off just for the hell of it. But overall, I agree, that story was one of those Simpsons episodes where nothing that happened had any long term consequences and was never brought up again.
Considering the tech they have, in reality if that tech was ours irl people would be biologically immortal, nanobots would render aging obsolete, people would heal like wolverine and all the transportation and matter creation tech would fix any possible disfigurment in seconds. Missing an arm? let me grow that excact one from your dna back on to your body in 0.5 secs from 1000km away, as site to site and very percise transportor tech would allow it, shields/forcefields etc would take the place of any bandage. So it makes sense the crew made light of borg assimilation. Plus writers never think about realism with their tech. In reality voyager on its own isnt handicapped they could have settled a planet and made any ship/station in starfleet databanks in a matter of weeks
The story in Unimatrix-zero was cool from an action point of view, but the realism of that plot was so horribly unbalanced that it's considered by many to almost be non-canon. The mission was a purposeful body-mutilation suicide pact at best, or death for everyone at worst... all with no debate (even Scorpion had some discussion on it). Visually it was cool but holy god the writers went nuts
@@TheCoolCucumber Pretty much every episode was writted by a different writing team and they were instructed that outside of two parters they had to leave everything pretty much the way they found it for the next episode as they were all being writted in parallel. This resulted in pretty much every episode hitting a reset button at the end of the episode. This writing style was fine for TNG where every episode was by and large a standalone adventure. But Voyager needed to be more than just TNG in the delta quadrant. I like Voyager but there were a lot of episodes that would have been improved if there were lasting consequences. Be it unrepairable or lasting damage that leaves voyager in a semi-crippled state for at least a few episodes, key crew members getting killed and so on. They were alone in the Delta quadrant with no logistical support after all. Even if that was somewhat within the Interpid class design.
The stuff of nightmares. Seeing one of these approaching and knowing there's nothing you can do. You can't outrun it, you can't destroy it, you can't talk your way out of it; you will be assimilated and spend the rest of your life as an observer, seeing and experiencing everything you do with no ability to control it. You can't even kill yourself to escape assimilation because the Borg can bring you back to life. Your only options are to accept your fate, or a phaser on maximum to disintegrate yourself.
Wow. I already felt this, but seeing such a compilation of Borg moments really seals the deal to me that the Borg have the best evil aesthetics in Star Trek. From the drones, the ships, the computer graphics, the ever-constant green hue, everything works together so well. Great presentation!
The borg are quite courteous in that they announce their intentions first hand. May I ask, has there been any species that actually voluntarily gave up to the borg and let themselves get assimilated? Some thing like, assimilation is the better option, so we surrender?
That is true, in our history of warfare it was always preferable to have your enemy surrender instead of doing battle. By giving your enemy a chance to surrender you greatly decrease the expenses incurred with battle.
The Pakled ? But then again, the Borg may deem them unworthy of Assimilating… Hmm, perhaps it's a way to get the target to _display it's prowess,_ so the Borg can gauge how useful they'll be.
@@casbot71 The two main things borg look for is advanced tech and biological distinctiveness. Even if a species didn’t put up a fight or even hid their tech, if they had something that could benefit the borg in any way they would probably go for it.
They essentially erase your personality and refit the remains. The chance of getting away is almost zero, your only weapon and advantage is being unpredictable by being an Individual. You may as well go down fighting, but better than that, fleeing under distraction. They seem rather easily distracted, because everything is getting analysed. Everyone wants to fight without thinking twice, or flee in dumb horror. The escapists always survive by distraction.
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At least the Borg were safety-conscious and installed railings.
Watching Star Trek with my family, I was never once intimidated or scared by the borg. But seeing them as a collective in a full summary has now changed that perspective. I see now why they are so scary.
OH MY GOD that we-portal-to-rikers-farmhouse technology bothered me so much, but the explanation that they got it from those planet hoping dudes from that earlier voyager episode is super satisfactory i didn't catch it, did they mention that in the episode?
Can´t fully remember if they specifically explained it but I think they stated that it was Spatial Trajector Technology and the only species known to use this sort of transportation are the Sikarians, which Voyager met earlier.
it was also stated in that episode that the way it worked had something to do with a unique quality on the planet.. the way minerals or something were on it i forget the details exactly, but essentially the tech only worked on the planets surface. voyager tried doing it from orbit and it didnt work.
@@alwaysmymazda I suppose that if anyone could take that technology and build some artificial planet size trajector amplifiers around space to make it more convenient... it's the Borg.
You are amazingly brilliant at marshalling all the scattered bits of information across years of episodes from different series into a perfectly arranged sequence that pulls it all together so neatly and comprehensively.
A fantastic breakdown, though I can't help but feel that many these additions by nutty writers from Voyager and Picard have dampened the overall mystique of this vessel
The Borg Cube is iconic and one of my all time favorite ship designs in sci-fi realm and it also stands as the face of the United Federation of Planet's greatest foe.
a good ship breakdown video you could do would be a luna class ship breakdown from star trek (the most famous of its class being the USS Titan NCC-80102) maybe a video about the titan or just the luna class.
There is precious little visual material for the Luna class, which would make for a limited video component. Not impossible, but much more of a challenge to make a compelling video on.
Stellar video! And I gotta say, you’re already getting better at the narration! First few videos were… well rough (gotta learn somehow, right?), but you’ve really done well with this one!
I like the Star Trek Legacy storyline of the Borg. It's been ignored for a long time but they beautifully explain the borg and it expands all seasons up to voyager and is explained in goof detail.
I love that you started the video with the classic Borg line. So brutally imposing from their very first words on air. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
The cube itself makes sense. The idea of no central core and no queen makes sense. What doesn't make sense is them all of a sudden having a central core and a queen so it can be easier for humans to win.
@@cooldude2251 look at how they changed the Borg in there first appearance Q said they were only interested in there technology then all the sudden in best of both worlds they assimilate life forms and you can hack them easily
It would have been more interesting if each Queen was part of a sub group of Queen/Leader. Having it be a Queen kind of took away from the alien mystique of the Borg and sort of simplified them. If when the Queen was first introduced she was rather instead identified as Prime 2 of 3. Suggesting a unique quality and appealing to the mechanical/robotic side of the Borg. When Picard is first assimilated, instead of Locutus of Borg if he was Prime 7 of 19 or something like that, it would have been informing if the Queen came along later using the same kind of identifier. It might suggest that she an example of the fate Picard could have faced had Riker failed.
Yeah calling her the Borg Queen in and of itself doesn't match the mystique of the Borg. I always thought she should've been called One of All. But I understood what she was, the singular embodiment of the Collective. If you're talking to a drone, you're just talking to a neuron, but if it's the Queen you're talking to the whole, the Mother Brain.
Might be hard to come across sufficient information on the vessel to create an episode, especially since the Colony Wars franchise has been dead for awhile now.
But there's a couple of things about that encounter, and their presence in 2063 during First Contact. The only people who knew about them native to 2063 were Cochrane and Lily Sloane, one of whom had a reputation of saying things while drunk, which he would later recant. So, whatever they said was always viewed with some suspicion. In 2152, Starfleet (specifically Archer) only speculatively attach those drones to Cochrane's drunken ramblings. The Hansens (not part of Starfleet) were only exploring a rumor, so what Starfleet knew prior to the 2350s was a closely guarded secret. So they are the first to encounter the Borg, and the Enterprise-D is the first official recorded encounter.
SUGGESTION: There needs to be a TV series created called "Star Trek: The Last Generation," which tells the story of what would happen if the writers were not biased toward "The Good Guys." The Borg villains would be allowed to assimilate the entire galaxy over the course of the series. During the final episodes of the series, the Borg would conquer Earth, and then movie on to another galaxy.
@@VegetaLF7 clearly the flood is way more scarry. you can easy outrun a borg drone at how slow they walk but good luck outruning a combat form of the flood
Chaos and the Tyranids from Warhammer 40k The Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars The Shadows from Babylon 5 Xenomorph from Aliens Reapers from Mass Effect Shivaner from Freespace Ohh there are many on the same level as the Borg.
The Borg first appeared in the Star Trek TNG episode Q Who. The Vinculum appears in an episode of Star Trek Voyager which starts on Pick (Freeview channel 36) on 30/01/2023.
I think an interesting series of videos would be in depth discussions on various weapon systems. Grazer, phaser, et. al. Perhaps discussing them in terms of functionality within the sci-fi universe vs reality. Nuclear weapon would be particularly enlightening.
I wonder if the Queen was an adaptation to when Picard was used to make a cube sleep or when Hugh caused a number of Borg to split off. Something to shut off errent commands and exert more control over erent drones.
@@aquamonkee Well, she would remember what the collective does. But aww! I liked the idea that the Borg DID something, changed somehow, in reaction to the Hugh incident. But that's O.K. I'm not a writer and shouldn't be telling writers how to do their job.
I remeber when that magazine that came with model starships (still releasing new issues iirc) released a limited edition Borg Cube model that lit up, I thought it was the coolest thing since the Galaxy-X model!
Look at the side of the Borg Cubes digital graphs...like a QR Code! QR Codes, are Borg signature command access code modules...for access through the Borg eye piece, allowing access to the Neural-Net link, Within one's Cranial mass.
I'd have to vote replicators, on that one. The borg have a reliance on biological material the replicators don't have. They're pure tech, and can assimilate and duplicate themselves from nearly any material. Hell, they turned an entire planet into replicators. The humanoid replicators can even phase themselves through solid materials. The borg are scary as hell, but even they would be overmatched by the replicators.
im fairly certain the replicators would win, mostly due to them being able to do molecular manipulations with technology far more advanced then the borg. Im sure even the wraith would give them a good run for their money.
Probably borg after a bit. Replicators developed nanotechnology way late, and there's a good chance Borg nanites could infiltrate, infect, and subourn Replicator nanites. It'd be a nano war, because I think the Reps would win in a physical battle. But they'd lose when their own swarm turned on them.
The Asurans would win, hands down. SG1 base replicators are a bit more interesting. I guess it just gets into can the nanoprobes of a borg infect the replicator blocks? That basically answers the question. If yes, the Borg will win. If no, the Replicators will eat the borg.
Whoever wins will have both tech sets anyway. It's kinda like arguing who would win between Zerg, Flood, or Tyranids. It's basically the same outcome no matter what happens. They basically just fuse, and we arbitrarily call the new race the name of the old race we think won.
There are videos on TH-cam that debate star trek vs star wars. The crux always comes down to starfleet, klingon and romulan ships being far to slow compared to hyperspace travel in star wars. I think the borg with their transwarp drive and incredible adaptability, on top of their ability to subvert both the mechanical and biological would wipe the floor with the galactic empire! Yes I said it!!!!!
Not exactly sci-fi, but it'd be fun to see a breakdown of a Spelljammer spaceship, such as the Illithid Nautiloid, the Beholder Tyrant, the Human Dragonship or the ancient Spelljammer itself.
Head-Canon/Fan-Theory: Q "prematurely" introduced the Federation to the Borg, because they knew we would eventually stop them. They did this to prevent the Borg from ever meeting (and eventually assimilating) the Changeling/Founders.
Good I invented an exterminatus that works on SHIPS and basically shakes them to bits! When they are wrecked like this the individual bits are easy pickings against big friggin' makro cannons!
A shame that I have never heard anyone talk about the Naggarok, or Homeworld ships in general. I would also like to see someone about the Vaygr Cruiser, which is essentially a ship wrapped around a huge gun.
Just last night I was thinking the Borg got a hold of the folding space tech from the race Voyager visited, I imagine the Borg learned of the race when they partially assimilated Voyager and had a cube or scout sent to one of the outposts with the tech on it.
0:24 I watched an episode of Game Grumps right before coming to this video, so imagine my surprise that Arin Hanson was partially responsible for 7 of 9's fate.
If you though these were bad, in StarTrek Armada 2 you could combine 8 of these cubes together to a Fusion Cube and just send them blindly across the map. They were nigh indestructible, if they got destroyed at all you almost always had another one ready, but beaten at least one player out of the game...
Early Borg Collective attempts to form consensus on ship design: Design Drone 1 - Okay so our standard ship is going to be a cube, right? *Collective Agrees* Design Drone 2 - Scouting will be done with a sphere. *Collective Agrees* Design Drone 3 - Probes will look like pills. *Collective hesitates but eventually agrees* Design Drone 4 - For the special Queen ship, it will be diamond. *Collective kind of looks from one to another but reluctantly agrees* Design Drones - What about the heavy dreadnaught capital ship? Design Drone THAT Guy - A DILDO! *Collective WTF Dude?*
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WAIT the borg essentially had stargates????
Which track of battlezone II did you use? Have not been able to find it yet on youtube.
Why don't you check into the fact that the Hansen's were abducted by the border making 7 of 9 but also Admiral hansen was Killed by the Borg and the battle of Wolf 359 on the Melbourne.
Were they related? Was Admiral Hanson 7 of 9's Grandfather
Borg only send one single Cube at the time, because that way, they always win.
-If the Borg win, they win.
-If the enemy wins, either through superior firepower or exploitation of a weakness, sending only one Cube prevents the loss of an entire fleet and the collected data is worth the loss of the cube.
And then Species 8472 became a thing
And the military pressure to advance only increases the value of their inevitable victory.
The federation lost 39 ships to a single cube at Wolf 359, and still lost at least 30 ships in the battle of sector 001 despite having made incredible advancements in both weapon systems and employing actual warships dedicated to fighting the borg.
All they need to do is send TWO cubes.
When you really stop and think about it, the Borg are just a vinculum building more of itself out of available materials using nanomachines.
I think they count as a superorganism.
Infinite adaptability. The first cube failed but the second would be tailored to fight that target. The federation actually defeated this tactic by adapting and creating true warships with variable frequency weapons instead of the half arsed "starships" they had at wolf 359. I think this is why by voyager you see borg ships using conventional yet extremely powerful shields. The federation showed the borg their subspace defences were useless when species used these variable frequency weapons.
@@thundercactus That only a fraction of the Federation fleet through. The federation were deploying a thousand strong fleets during the Dominion war.
"You can't outrun them, you can't destroy them. If you damage them, the essence of what they are remains. They regenerate and keep on coming. Eventually you will weaken, your reserves will be gone. They are relentless!" - Q
they are the ultimate user.
Yeah but that's pre nerf
"If the Continuum has told you once, they have told you a thousand times: DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG!!!"
@@priest2001 Is it really surprising though? How do you write an antagonist as powerful as the Borg, that your protagonists can still credibly win against? The writers had no alternative but to nerf them, or introduce gimmicks like Species 8472.
Doesn't mean I don't miss the implacable menace that was TNG's version of the Borg.
Until they come up against ethnically diverse female space Jesus. Mikey Burnhan wil defeat the Borg and forever end them in the first act of an episode. And then the Discovery crew will have a good cry about it for the next two acts.
The cube remains one of the most unsettling spacecraft designs in the history of sci-fi. It's the quintessential example of Sinister Geometry- just a huge, regular shape that moves around on its own. Other examples include the cylindrical 'Whale Probe' from Star Trek IV, the Doomsday Machine, the angel Ramiel from Neon Genesis Evangelion, Khaak ships from the X Universe and so on.
What is the doomsday machine?
I see you are knowledgable Sir ;) But I always considered Ramiel to be the least fear-inducing one since it does not look organic. I mean Lilith, that one is creepy as hell!
And I do liek the Khaak.
some more examples of disturbing starships from sci fi universes would have to be the reapers and collectors from the mass effect series.
Add the pyramid ships from Destiny, always give me a bit of a chill.
@@SoullessOO1 I was going to mention those
Perhaps the single scariest thing about the Borg when I first learned about them was that there were no individuals, no egos to trick or blind spots to exploit and nothing to relate to, all identity had been removed long ago. The introduction of a "Borg Queen" destroyed that image and lessened them in my eyes.
That's true, I hadn't realized that at the time
I agree. Having a Queen makes them too understandable and “natural.” We know how animals work which have queens, we know and can appreciate that system. It’s familiar, maybe even comfortable. They have a moral to serve. But the borg before the queen were super scary as you said. They were completely pitiless and ruthless, truly monsters.
Think someone at Paramount insisted on a Queen for First Contact. Studios, they have the money. They have the power.
@@evalramman7502 yeah, that was more or less it. They felt that while having the Borg be this leaderless collective worked for TV, for a movie, they would need some kind of main villain to confront
Perhaps they had to use the borg queen to understand and abatp to federation unique and willpower
"Uncontrolled unpowered atmospheric entry" - that's a fancy way of saying "crash into the planet"
"Lithobrake"
ah yes, the famed "eat shit" maneouver
God those high definition phaser beams from First Contact are gorgeous, as are the Torpedo effects. Absolute Titanium standard in Star Trek weapons effects.
Even the modern series can’t match First Contact for weapons effects, or weapons sound effects.
They don’t do practical model work anymore…it’s a lost art
I'm not going to lie "First Contact" is my favorite star trek movie. Although that might be because I saw it in theatre when I was like 12
And that quantum torpedo volley from the Enterprise-E
Yeah, theres various bits i like over the whole series, but that battle was the single best looking, balls out fight i think has been put to film. And the E swooping in....👏👏👏👏👏👏
They have no centralized systems. Except the vinculum. And the central plexus. And the queen chamber. And...
The TNG writers knew how to keep the Borg scary. Too bad the Voyager writers didn't.
Picard writers seem to be doing the same...But that might be down to them hating the franchise more than voyager's less than stellar writing talent.
@@ShiftyMcGoggles I got the impression that the Picard writers were trying to frame the Borg more as an advanced, dead civilization rather than an existential threat. And if you ignore Voyager that works well: a single Borg ship that is derelict and an object of intense scrutiny and interest is a really neat take after the events of Descent, especially with Hugh's involvement.
I feel like there's some neat storytelling to do within that framework, but I'm not sure that's the direction the writers are going in the upcoming season(s).
@@the_snobot To be honest, that summarises a lot of the plot elements of Picard. Interesting ideas, but without the writing chops to properly work it into trek series, or more than a cursory glance at the source material.
I have a feeling they didn't get the script checked over by other people either, since the issues with it are more egregious that Voyager's torpedo count.
@@ShiftyMcGoggles Neat ideas with no justification for their existence seem to be a running theme in multiple overglorified fanfic stories these days. "Who cares if it doesn't make sense with the established worldbuilding/characters/history, I want more content!"
@@ShiftyMcGoggles To be fair, their writng talent is as low as their hatred for the franchise is high
0:41 The cube looks like the coolest thing ever built exclusively out of what's left over after you pop all the pieces of your model ship/airplane out of the kit.
That's pretty much what the models for the Borg cubes were made out of.
The secret to defeating a Borg cube is to get one side all the same colour and then work your way from there. No wait a minute sorry. I'm thinking of a Rubiks cube.
to be fair, if the color was "Core of Sun" i'm sure this still applies
to be fair, if the color was "Core of Sun" i'm sure this still applies
Get rid of that last sentence and the comment is perfect.
Using Transformer technology as a virus to expose onto individual cubes in order to change a Borg cube into a Rubix will likely ruin the cube's defensive integrity. Always use this tactic to destroy Borg cubes!
Just peel the color stickers and stick them back one color to each side. Just don't let the kid who owns the cube see you.
This and the Shadow vessels from Babylon 5 have my vote for scariest enemy ships in sci-fi!
Indeed, that scream is unforgettable. There are not many other ships in science fiction i can think of that instil such fear.
Even later in B5 the Shadow vessels never lose that mystique.
even when they used telepaths to scare away shadows those ships were still taken seriously....
the awesome thing about the shadows is no words had to be spoken, they appear and attack then leave, the borg actually tell their prey they're coming lolz but the borg are still a fate nobody wants
Whoever designed the art for the Shadow vessels, I'd love to know what Eldritch nightmares inspired them!
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage and sometimes the intended Borg victim resists, then after beating the Borg back they come in search of retribution.
Thank you for presenting the borg adaptation as a thing with limits, like it was shown in most places, and not invincible space magic that a lot of Trek secondary and fan media makes it out to be.
If anything, it's more a problem with Federation phaser tech than it is an invincible shielding...
I'm sure rail guns would scrap them so easily
@@mryellow6918 the borg would struggle with Halo Plasma or MAC Cannons.
@@mryellow6918 How the drones reacted to kinetic weapons in First Contact, and the anti-borg sniper rifle that Ezri played around with in one episode of DS9 agree with you.
In the Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force video game there's a weapon called an I-MOD, short for Infinity Modulator, which was specifically designed to get around Borg adaptation. To me the way that game presented the Borg made sense.
I love the Borg. Even with a few of the changes Voyager made to them, I still think they're awesome.
The one main thing I detested about the usage of the Borg was when Janeway, Tuvok and Torres were assimilated. The way this panned out totally undercut the severity of what assimilation is. They had no idea if their bodies were going to be mutilated to the point of amputated limbs, yet it was all like 'we'll just get Doc over here to fix us up.'
The way I've understood the whole amputated limb thing, especially if you're referring to that scene in First Contact, is this, they only amputated damaged limbs. Like if the person who was being assimilated already wore a prosthetic or had it damaged fighting the Borg drones to begin with.
Not every assimilated person had limbs hacked off just for the hell of it. But overall, I agree, that story was one of those Simpsons episodes where nothing that happened had any long term consequences and was never brought up again.
Considering the tech they have, in reality if that tech was ours irl people would be biologically immortal, nanobots would render aging obsolete, people would heal like wolverine and all the transportation and matter creation tech would fix any possible disfigurment in seconds. Missing an arm? let me grow that excact one from your dna back on to your body in 0.5 secs from 1000km away, as site to site and very percise transportor tech would allow it, shields/forcefields etc would take the place of any bandage. So it makes sense the crew made light of borg assimilation. Plus writers never think about realism with their tech. In reality voyager on its own isnt handicapped they could have settled a planet and made any ship/station in starfleet databanks in a matter of weeks
@@RichO1701e I'm guessing it was more replacing limbs lost during resistance. battle wounds
The story in Unimatrix-zero was cool from an action point of view, but the realism of that plot was so horribly unbalanced that it's considered by many to almost be non-canon. The mission was a purposeful body-mutilation suicide pact at best, or death for everyone at worst... all with no debate (even Scorpion had some discussion on it). Visually it was cool but holy god the writers went nuts
@@TheCoolCucumber Pretty much every episode was writted by a different writing team and they were instructed that outside of two parters they had to leave everything pretty much the way they found it for the next episode as they were all being writted in parallel. This resulted in pretty much every episode hitting a reset button at the end of the episode.
This writing style was fine for TNG where every episode was by and large a standalone adventure. But Voyager needed to be more than just TNG in the delta quadrant. I like Voyager but there were a lot of episodes that would have been improved if there were lasting consequences. Be it unrepairable or lasting damage that leaves voyager in a semi-crippled state for at least a few episodes, key crew members getting killed and so on. They were alone in the Delta quadrant with no logistical support after all. Even if that was somewhat within the Interpid class design.
The stuff of nightmares. Seeing one of these approaching and knowing there's nothing you can do. You can't outrun it, you can't destroy it, you can't talk your way out of it; you will be assimilated and spend the rest of your life as an observer, seeing and experiencing everything you do with no ability to control it. You can't even kill yourself to escape assimilation because the Borg can bring you back to life. Your only options are to accept your fate, or a phaser on maximum to disintegrate yourself.
I drop everything & watch. 🍿
“Resistance is futile.”
Thank you for using beautiful HD rips from the movies. The first contact battle sequences look stunning
Wow. I already felt this, but seeing such a compilation of Borg moments really seals the deal to me that the Borg have the best evil aesthetics in Star Trek. From the drones, the ships, the computer graphics, the ever-constant green hue, everything works together so well. Great presentation!
The borg are quite courteous in that they announce their intentions first hand. May I ask, has there been any species that actually voluntarily gave up to the borg and let themselves get assimilated? Some thing like, assimilation is the better option, so we surrender?
That is true, in our history of warfare it was always preferable to have your enemy surrender instead of doing battle. By giving your enemy a chance to surrender you greatly decrease the expenses incurred with battle.
The Pakled ?
But then again, the Borg may deem them unworthy of Assimilating…
Hmm, perhaps it's a way to get the target to _display it's prowess,_ so the Borg can gauge how useful they'll be.
I would volutarily gave up to the Borg...
@@casbot71 The two main things borg look for is advanced tech and biological distinctiveness. Even if a species didn’t put up a fight or even hid their tech, if they had something that could benefit the borg in any way they would probably go for it.
They essentially erase your personality and refit the remains.
The chance of getting away is almost zero, your only weapon and advantage is being unpredictable by being an Individual.
You may as well go down fighting, but better than that, fleeing under distraction.
They seem rather easily distracted, because everything is getting analysed.
Everyone wants to fight without thinking twice, or flee in dumb horror.
The escapists always survive by distraction.
At least the Borg were safety-conscious and installed railings.
Because they were amazon warehouse operators in the 21st century.
They might be pure evil but they're not negligent
Out of all the species in Sci-FI, the only one that gave me nightmares and scare me to this day was The Borg.
Nah the silence from doctor who imo are more scary.
As a child I found them disturbing
@@EddyA1337 I just thought they were cool
I found species 8472 was more scary
Really love these newer in-depth videos. Thank you so much for making them.
Watching Star Trek with my family, I was never once intimidated or scared by the borg. But seeing them as a collective in a full summary has now changed that perspective. I see now why they are so scary.
OH MY GOD that we-portal-to-rikers-farmhouse technology bothered me so much, but the explanation that they got it from those planet hoping dudes from that earlier voyager episode is super satisfactory
i didn't catch it, did they mention that in the episode?
Can´t fully remember if they specifically explained it but I think they stated that it was Spatial Trajector Technology and the only species known to use this sort of transportation are the Sikarians, which Voyager met earlier.
it was also stated in that episode that the way it worked had something to do with a unique quality on the planet.. the way minerals or something were on it i forget the details exactly, but essentially the tech only worked on the planets surface. voyager tried doing it from orbit and it didnt work.
@@alwaysmymazda I suppose that if anyone could take that technology and build some artificial planet size trajector amplifiers around space to make it more convenient... it's the Borg.
@@kevinwidmayer2409 Probably mined a bunch of the minerals and built ships out of them.
It was a very "stargate" moment! "Hey I remember that piece of technology from like 3 seasons ago!"
You are amazingly brilliant at marshalling all the scattered bits of information across years of episodes from different series into a perfectly arranged sequence that pulls it all together so neatly and comprehensively.
A fantastic breakdown, though I can't help but feel that many these additions by nutty writers from Voyager and Picard have dampened the overall mystique of this vessel
Love the new "LCARS" display when showing stats on the ship!
I remember seeing a Borg Cube for the first time as a kid and instantly feeling creeped out by it.
If it was The Best of Both Worlds part 1, the background music for it's appearance was ominous and grandiose.
@@darwinxavier3516 Q Who
Of all the ships in Sci-Fi, I always found it ironic that my favorite was a literal flying cube
The Borg Cube is iconic and one of my all time favorite ship designs in sci-fi realm and it also stands as the face of the United Federation of Planet's greatest foe.
a good ship breakdown video you could do would be a luna class ship breakdown from star trek (the most famous of its class being the USS Titan NCC-80102) maybe a video about the titan or just the luna class.
There is precious little visual material for the Luna class, which would make for a limited video component. Not impossible, but much more of a challenge to make a compelling video on.
@@timberwolf1575 sure thats true but still spacedock has done videos on ships with little info but yeah I guess I shouldnt get my hopes up
Great job guys! I'm loving these new vids, the production quality is exceptional!
Great video. Integrating a generous amount of info bits that leave you stuffed and happy by the end of the video. Thorough and concise!
Outstanding quality and production of videos, Spacedock. Just keep on rolling, you're doing very good.
Stellar video! And I gotta say, you’re already getting better at the narration! First few videos were… well rough (gotta learn somehow, right?), but you’ve really done well with this one!
Thankyou!
- hoojiwana from Spacedock
Pretty sure that was a QR Code in the thumbnail. A QR Code to... assimilate!
_Saturday/May/6/2023_
woke up at 24 and decided todays the day to finally get into star trek and this is the first video I'm watching
That was informative and well done THANK YOU and the team behind the voice.
I like the Star Trek Legacy storyline of the Borg. It's been ignored for a long time but they beautifully explain the borg and it expands all seasons up to voyager and is explained in goof detail.
I love videos like this from this channel keeps me coming back every time not to mention Borg are just scary.
I was at collage when The Borg were introduced. They were all you heard people talking about (in hushed whispers) in the canteen the following day.
I love that you started the video with the classic Borg line. So brutally imposing from their very first words on air.
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
Oh man that battlezone 2 intro music takes me wayyy back.
Ah, The Borg Cube. Made of pure shielded plot.
The cube itself makes sense. The idea of no central core and no queen makes sense. What doesn't make sense is them all of a sudden having a central core and a queen so it can be easier for humans to win.
@@cooldude2251 look at how they changed the Borg in there first appearance Q said they were only interested in there technology then all the sudden in best of both worlds they assimilate life forms and you can hack them easily
Wow! What a great video on the Borg Cubes!! Nicely Done!!
It would have been more interesting if each Queen was part of a sub group of Queen/Leader.
Having it be a Queen kind of took away from the alien mystique of the Borg and sort of simplified them.
If when the Queen was first introduced she was rather instead identified as Prime 2 of 3. Suggesting a unique quality and appealing to the mechanical/robotic side of the Borg.
When Picard is first assimilated, instead of Locutus of Borg if he was Prime 7 of 19 or something like that, it would have been informing if the Queen came along later using the same kind of identifier. It might suggest that she an example of the fate Picard could have faced had Riker failed.
Yeah calling her the Borg Queen in and of itself doesn't match the mystique of the Borg. I always thought she should've been called One of All. But I understood what she was, the singular embodiment of the Collective. If you're talking to a drone, you're just talking to a neuron, but if it's the Queen you're talking to the whole, the Mother Brain.
Love the Battlezone 2 music , almost forgot about that game.
Why is this not showing in my subscription feed?!!?! TH-cam sucks sometimes. Glad I found your video despite TH-cam getting in the way.
Another fantastic video Spacedock! Well done!
This is basically what Star Wars feels like when watching for the first time
Here’s an off the wall review request: The Czars own personal SuperTitan “Tsunami” from the PS1 game “Colony Wars”.
AI Voice: "No Information Available."
Might be hard to come across sufficient information on the vessel to create an episode, especially since the Colony Wars franchise has been dead for awhile now.
@@guamson8946 I'd like to see a reboot of that game. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Colony Wars is something I sorely wish would come back. Red Sun was awful but the first 2 games were great.
Who encountered them first is a matter of opinion. One could also say it was Archer and the Crew of Enterprise NX-01. Isn't time travel lovely?
This video was just about the cube not the borg in general. Archer only came into contact with a interplanetary shuttle a few drones had over charged.
But there's a couple of things about that encounter, and their presence in 2063 during First Contact. The only people who knew about them native to 2063 were Cochrane and Lily Sloane, one of whom had a reputation of saying things while drunk, which he would later recant. So, whatever they said was always viewed with some suspicion. In 2152, Starfleet (specifically Archer) only speculatively attach those drones to Cochrane's drunken ramblings.
The Hansens (not part of Starfleet) were only exploring a rumor, so what Starfleet knew prior to the 2350s was a closely guarded secret. So they are the first to encounter the Borg, and the Enterprise-D is the first official recorded encounter.
SUGGESTION: There needs to be a TV series created called "Star Trek: The Last Generation," which tells the story of what would happen if the writers were not biased toward "The Good Guys." The Borg villains would be allowed to assimilate the entire galaxy over the course of the series. During the final episodes of the series, the Borg would conquer Earth, and then movie on to another galaxy.
Love the thumbnail.
I can't think of anything more monstrous than the Borg, even now they still scare me.
Halo's Flood are up there for me
@@VegetaLF7 clearly the flood is way more scarry. you can easy outrun a borg drone at how slow they walk but good luck outruning a combat form of the flood
@@Obsidian_Gargantuan_Leviathan the flood destroy who you are when absorbed the borg use everything and on some level your aware as well
@@insigificantinsect4880 the flood destroy more or less just the body. the mind and all the info from it are absorbed by the grave mind
Chaos and the Tyranids from Warhammer 40k
The Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars
The Shadows from Babylon 5
Xenomorph from Aliens
Reapers from Mass Effect
Shivaner from Freespace
Ohh there are many on the same level as the Borg.
The Borg first appeared in the Star Trek TNG episode Q Who. The Vinculum appears in an episode of Star Trek Voyager which starts on Pick (Freeview channel 36) on 30/01/2023.
Awesome episode!
Cheers!
Ah yes, the Minecraft ship
After reading this, I'm not sure if I can take the Borg as a seriously ever again.
@@metalgeardull8279 honestly, a race of Minecraft builders is fucking terrifying.
@@sauron7839 that is true.
@@sauron7839
*WE ARE THE BUILDERS.*
*DEFENSE IS POINTLESS.*
*YOU WILL BE ACCUMULATED.*
That would actually be a great addition to the galaxy mod...
Sold at Ikeas everywhere.
I think an interesting series of videos would be in depth discussions on various weapon systems. Grazer, phaser, et. al. Perhaps discussing them in terms of functionality within the sci-fi universe vs reality. Nuclear weapon would be particularly enlightening.
The only thing I like about Borg cubes is how easily transphasic torpedoes destroy them.
I wonder if the Queen was an adaptation to when Picard was used to make a cube sleep or when Hugh caused a number of Borg to split off. Something to shut off errent commands and exert more control over erent drones.
The Borg Queen was meant to always have existed hence Picard remembering her in turn she recalled Annaka Hanson not being afraid
@@aquamonkee
Well, she would remember what the collective does. But aww! I liked the idea that the Borg DID something, changed somehow, in reaction to the Hugh incident.
But that's O.K. I'm not a writer and shouldn't be telling writers how to do their job.
Battlezone 2 music is a nice touch
Wow that was thorough! Amazing!
We have added this video's biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile! Great video!!!
Perfect soundtrack! 😃 Really liking "New Spacedock"! 🙂
I remeber when that magazine that came with model starships (still releasing new issues iirc) released a limited edition Borg Cube model that lit up, I thought it was the coolest thing since the Galaxy-X model!
Great video. The Borg are awesome.
Amazing work, sir
Look at the side of the Borg Cubes digital graphs...like a QR Code!
QR Codes, are Borg signature command access code modules...for access through the Borg eye piece, allowing access to the Neural-Net link,
Within one's Cranial mass.
This is a sweet Borg video, good job!!
Excellent breakdown 👌😎
Thank you🙏
Who would win in a battle between the borg vs the replicators from Stargate SG1 and Atlantis?
I'd have to vote replicators, on that one. The borg have a reliance on biological material the replicators don't have. They're pure tech, and can assimilate and duplicate themselves from nearly any material. Hell, they turned an entire planet into replicators. The humanoid replicators can even phase themselves through solid materials.
The borg are scary as hell, but even they would be overmatched by the replicators.
im fairly certain the replicators would win, mostly due to them being able to do molecular manipulations with technology far more advanced then the borg. Im sure even the wraith would give them a good run for their money.
Probably borg after a bit. Replicators developed nanotechnology way late, and there's a good chance Borg nanites could infiltrate, infect, and subourn Replicator nanites. It'd be a nano war, because I think the Reps would win in a physical battle. But they'd lose when their own swarm turned on them.
The Asurans would win, hands down. SG1 base replicators are a bit more interesting. I guess it just gets into can the nanoprobes of a borg infect the replicator blocks? That basically answers the question. If yes, the Borg will win. If no, the Replicators will eat the borg.
Whoever wins will have both tech sets anyway. It's kinda like arguing who would win between Zerg, Flood, or Tyranids. It's basically the same outcome no matter what happens. They basically just fuse, and we arbitrarily call the new race the name of the old race we think won.
Please do another video on the uncomplex or another info about different borg ships and borg drones on planets.
There are videos on TH-cam that debate star trek vs star wars. The crux always comes down to starfleet, klingon and romulan ships being far to slow compared to hyperspace travel in star wars. I think the borg with their transwarp drive and incredible adaptability, on top of their ability to subvert both the mechanical and biological would wipe the floor with the galactic empire! Yes I said it!!!!!
The Borg Cube is like the Death Star as a box.
The battle is called "The Battle of Worf 359". Which is a real star system, and even has a memorial in Star Trek Online.
I tend to spend 10 minutes there on remeberance day.
i would love to see a battle between a borg cube and a zerg leviathan.
We are the Borg
HEAVY DUTY , MAN !
Im pretty sure that Cpt.Archer met the Borg first even before the federation was established.
But that wasn't a Cube.
This is Spacedock, the focus is on the ships.
We ignore that show.
@@morgan97475 who is "we"?
@@WardancerHB Those who were severely disappointed by the show. Manny Coto should've helmed the show from the beginning.
@@morgan97475 it’s a lot better than what we have now
Not exactly sci-fi, but it'd be fun to see a breakdown of a Spelljammer spaceship, such as the Illithid Nautiloid, the Beholder Tyrant, the Human Dragonship or the ancient Spelljammer itself.
um.. didn't Voyager destroy the transwarp network in it's last episode? why didn't you bring that up?
damaged for a big part
not destroyed as a hole
and the borg probably have most of the damage repaired by now
From what I remember they destroyed a major hub but not the network.
Seeing 'the Artifact' cube destroyed by a bunch of space Tulips kinda makes them less scary
Nice work
Head-Canon/Fan-Theory: Q "prematurely" introduced the Federation to the Borg, because they knew we would eventually stop them. They did this to prevent the Borg from ever meeting (and eventually assimilating) the Changeling/Founders.
Good I invented an exterminatus that works on SHIPS and basically shakes them to bits! When they are wrecked like this the individual bits are easy pickings against big friggin' makro cannons!
Strip the technological and double-down on the biological, I'd love to see a breakdown of the Naggarok.
A shame that I have never heard anyone talk about the Naggarok, or Homeworld ships in general. I would also like to see someone about the Vaygr Cruiser, which is essentially a ship wrapped around a huge gun.
Just last night I was thinking the Borg got a hold of the folding space tech from the race Voyager visited, I imagine the Borg learned of the race when they partially assimilated Voyager and had a cube or scout sent to one of the outposts with the tech on it.
I remember Time Magazine had the Borg on the front cover of one of the editions in 1991.
Great video!
0:24 I watched an episode of Game Grumps right before coming to this video, so imagine my surprise that Arin Hanson was partially responsible for 7 of 9's fate.
Of all badies, the borg is by far one of the scariest badass ones in all sci fi movies.
Thank you
If you though these were bad, in StarTrek Armada 2 you could combine 8 of these cubes together to a Fusion Cube and just send them blindly across the map.
They were nigh indestructible, if they got destroyed at all you almost always had another one ready, but beaten at least one player out of the game...
Thanks!
Early Borg Collective attempts to form consensus on ship design:
Design Drone 1 - Okay so our standard ship is going to be a cube, right?
*Collective Agrees*
Design Drone 2 - Scouting will be done with a sphere.
*Collective Agrees*
Design Drone 3 - Probes will look like pills.
*Collective hesitates but eventually agrees*
Design Drone 4 - For the special Queen ship, it will be diamond.
*Collective kind of looks from one to another but reluctantly agrees*
Design Drones - What about the heavy dreadnaught capital ship?
Design Drone THAT Guy - A DILDO!
*Collective WTF Dude?*
Great video.
Just like evil Minecraft.
That was really good.
the cube design is smart as there is no air resistance in space hence no need to be aerodynamic