Which Characters Could DEFEAT Warhammer 40k?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- Doomguy, V, Omniman, which of these powerful fighters could last more than a day in 40k? Well-- let's find out!
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What about H.P. Lovecrafts gods?
I would like to see a 40K Custodian fight other things like this video
Doom slayer vs 40k
Darth vader vs 40k
Archi Sonic vs 40k
" To take a town, send a legionary; to take a city, send a squad; to take a world, send a company; to take a culture, send a chapter". Quoted from "Know no Fear".
Which I call bullshit on. One hundred Marines couldn't take modern day earth. I don't care how strong your made up NOTplastic armour is, you are not tanking a125mm APFSDS shot.
Space marines can also play basketball pretty well don't forget
NBA 2k expansion when?
For the emperor, we ball
Oryx the taken King has a basketball court in his throne world, try again
@@Buster-McTunderMoar liek NBA 40K, amirite?
Blood bowl:NBA expansion when?
Okay, so for the COG, I'd actually see them being assimilated into a guard regiment since they are a human civilization. They'd basically only have one choice, convert to the worship of the Emperor and use your gears as Guardsmen for the Imperium, or be annihilated. Honestly the COG might actually take a bit less convincing if the Imperium deals with the Locust problem for them. They'd probably fight the Imperium at first but since it'd be ground battles mostly, the COG would likely surrender and be forced to join the Imperium.
Helldivers probably would try to be assimilated into the imperium as well
Locust won’t even be a problem for the imperium.
Man the helldivers are way underrated here, it takes like a month to get anywhere for 40k so the helldivers could go to agri worlds and one by one turn them into black holes, then running away before the fleets get there. Doing this they could just starve out the imperium until it collapses.
One by one? That's cute. Sorry, I don't know if you're aware, but at the scale the Imperium of man is on, you would maybe starve a few dozen star systems in a single sector of civilized space out of literal hundreds of thousands of such sectors spread across half of the Milky way galaxy. No matter how sneaky you are, you would be forced to engage the Imperial Navy at SOME point simply due to the nature of the unknowable size of the Navy, and at the rate that the Imperium is constantly expanding and contracting, such tactics would not prove helpful in the long run when you are also at the same time competing with the various Xenos and Chaos factions which would be just as quick to chase the Helldiver's navy into the void as any Imperial Navy strike force sent in to investigate the loss of agriworlds.
In short, the Helldiver's best bet is to capitulate to the Imperium. Even with the vast variables in warp travel, one or two Imperial ships will eventually get lucky and jump out of the warp far earlier than anticipated, and this happening over and over again over the course of literal decades. Not to mention the warp storms and anomalies which regularly pop up at random across the galaxy, which the Helldiver's would have no means of understanding would prove catastrophic over any period of time navigating the void in 40k, considering your proposed tactic of "just do what the Dark Eldar do".
Never underestimate the Imperium's capacity to take staggering loss after loss after loss and come back swinging with unending hatred far harder and from a different direction than you expected.
The thing is with helldivers.. they are fast sure.. but it would be like a fly trying to kill a elephant. In space the imperiums fleet is slower but hits hard and in sheer numbers the small ships of the divers will not be able to stay long enough to support the helldivers in ground battle..
Helldivers drop pod in to a hive world.. they then run out of supplies and have no air cover. Their shop either left or got destroyed. They have speed and thats it. They would be better off joining the imperium. Unless there is some Epic fleet with large destroyers that could survive space warfare. All we have seen mostly is the small strike cruisers used to drop hell divers off. With out air support and orbital support helldivers are screwed.
Agree, the Helldivers would definitly be a pain in the Ass for the imperium simply because they more or less work exactly the same as the guard. Got the problem solved after we tossed 10.000 Guardsmen/Helldivers at it? No? Ok then send 100.000 more and if that does not work make it a million.
Yes in the end the imperium would very likely be able to uphold this wall of Flesh way longer than the divers and claim the victory, but that does not mean that the helldivers would be no threat. The ability of the super destroyers to safely jump in and out of sytems within seconds would make it hard for the Navy to really get rid of them. Especially because the Warp could claim entire fleets of the imperium without a big issue. And even if a fleet does not get destroyed it could be lost for millenias simply because time works diffrent within the warp.
@@freed991 One more thing, most people haven't seen the rest of super earth's fleet. These mention of cruisers and battleships as well as the destroyers used for the helldivers.
A Diver's average lifetime in a combat zone is 18 minutes. I really don't think super earth could manage to destroy so mamy worlds without getting bodied by the guardsmen, let alone a space marine (singular btw)
Just remember a wall of guardsmen with flashlights can kill anything in the universe of Warhammer 40K
There are one set of marines that would have no problem with Viltrumites, Noise Marines, Viltrumites have a key weakness to loud noises and considering noise marines make a sound so loud that it can obliterate an astartes’ ears and eyes they would have no trouble wiping them out.
psykers could literally just fry their brains
Can't lie, dude did cyberpunk dirty. In Warhammer 40k terms I genuinely think the notable characters of cyberpunk 2020 & 2077 are on the same level of the Officio Assassinorum (except the Calexus temple) and some Mechanicum units. I think most people forget that both have taken on Astartes chapters and have actually put up a pretty good fight. Also I don't think people actually understand how OP CP2020 can get either.
yeah dude did not look outside the games, almost all soldiers have some form of cybernetic enhancement, they have more suits of power armor (ACPA) then all the space marines put together, maybe even all sisters of battle
that isnt even covering all the borgs, that would outnumber the 1 million astartes, and are all around peak human and potentialy stronger and faster
their weapons are aso better then standart bolters for borg and ACPA weapons
Seriously he must’ve only only ever played the game, and maybe seen the anime; doesn’t know the full lore.
They’ve never heard of things like the IEC Dragoon or the Arasaka DaiOni. They need to go back and watch the scene of David first entering the cyber skeleton. Tell me that grav tech couldn’t mince a squad of marines before tiring.
Also a dark age ship was able to hack space marine armor, so a net runner might be able to.
Space marines are fast, but things like the apogee sandi cut time to 1/10th speed. Lore has augmented humans seeing Astartes as a blur, very similar to a low grade sandi to a high end one. At the very least a legend like smasher, David, or V could reasonably go 1v1 with a Marine and I wouldn’t know who to put my money on.
@@joaosturza you make a good point with APCA/borg weapon. Insane calibers are common in the universe, with people having to cyber limbs to wield them.
@@Maxsmack I remember seeing a short that said cyberpunk has some of the best railgun tech too. bc of how easy some of the rail guns can shoot right thru solid objects.
@@Snow-fn9bk ah yeah, I think I've seen some by Marcus Vance.
there is a good chance that some random tribal from Rimworld would just oneshot a spacemarine with a bow that barely qualifies and that's even before getting into the archeotech artifacts and psycasting
Then he gets mad that he hasn't eaten yet and storms off from the fight while his heavily armored friend keeps fighting. This heavily armored friend dies in a single shot... By a stray lasgun.
I definitely think that some of the weirder playthroughs of Rimworld could put up a decent fight. With a few ranking rather high.
Francis John is a good example when a player can break the game into easy mode. I still remember when he led a 5 man crusade of magic murder munchkins or when he took over a combat tile and fought wave after wave of enemies turning their weapons into slag and creating tailcaps out of their flesh.
I can imagine Kratos popping into the great crusade era and giving Angry Ron an honerable death... then fighting off the Empreror!
the emperor would fry kratos' brain before he even knew the emperor was close, the emperor scales to outerversal, kratos is only multiversal
big e would look at kratos like kindred
If Kratos showed up in 40K the Imperium's best option would be to make sure all their enemies piss him off and just stay back to watch the show.
Doom Guy is 100% inmune to the warp, has the ability to use pretty much anything as a weapon against demons and has killed at least 2 or 3 gods before. All of that without a single transhuman modification. Even without the predator suit I am 100% confident he could solo the 4 chaos gods and then some
Not to mention Dark Lord has conquered multiverses, meanwhile all 4 chaos gods can't even conquer a single galaxy
Remember what happened to Slaanesh in Age of Sigmar? A giant rat replaced it, all while Slaanesh got imprisoned and starved after Warhammer Fantasy's End Times
People exaggerated Warhammer 40K power levels
one of the reasons why i dislike 40k comparisons is because in all of our fandoms, many of them are grounded in some sort of realistic scale. the idea that 40k wins because its 40k, because of it's scale is stupid. ofc its going to win its set in a galaxy wide setting.
the arguement is always the same, can they beat the space marines, oh they can? how about the orcs and eldar? oh they can? how about the chaos, and it goes on and on until we reach the necrons and c'tan. then by default 40k wins again. anything that can absolutely crush 40k's universe wholesale is deemed controversial.
a viltrumite is not on par with the level of an custodes, we just saw a viltrumite go through an entire planet, we seen mark throw a fucking moon and somehow its on par with a custodes. throw a custodes into the sun see if they survive. never mind custodes, even our golden boy cant throw a moon or fly through a planet or survive being inside the sun.
the universe of invincible, its heavy hitters, the viltrum empire, battle beast, alien, mark, his dad, his brother and daughter. would be able to crush the all of chapters and legions of the space marine excuding the emperor. it would take some time but they probably can. but can they survive chaos and its many influences probably not. we've seen the viltrum empire crumble because of a plague so nurgle alone would wipe them out.
i think helldivers dont get enough credit, since every single death a player plays is considered cannon, humanity is apparently in the trilliions at this point all in 1 planet. but really with how often hell divers call in air supports like 500kg bombs and napalm, i think they could give 40k a run for its money. its not going to win obviously but that universe isnt going down without a fight.
Xeelee Sequence races would run the 40k universe.
So how badly would Dante style on the Chaos Gods?
underrated
I’d say very.
Dante and Dante are gonna be a wild combo
Smokin' Sexy Style!
@@killfang9659 Are we talking about Commander Dante or Dante from the Devil May Cry series?
Kirby from the kirby games solos all of 40K.
To be fair, Kirby solos like 85% of fiction.
@@XanderBlackwell Does Kirby solo Food Wars? :P
@@XanderBlackwellThat's exaggeration, he can't solo rule 34.
@@corryjamieson3909I’ve seen solo Kirby.
the chaos gods who scale to outerversal say hi
Omni man would fall to chaos so fast
There are some realms however with entities that would scare even the inhabitance of the Warp and C'Tan with anxiety, a Fire Upon the Deep, Xeelee Sequence, Faction Paradox, Halo's the Flood, and Stellaris's Blokkats would be foes even the Chaos gods would have some uncertainty about totally breaking the Great Game and a threat to their own existence.
Even a game like Star Ruler would be quite dangerous for the 40k galaxy's structural integrity. And some beings in Xeelee Sequence that can be described as having powers that rival and surpass that of a potential unseen as of yet Omega Plus Grade level Psyker would have individually. Such as the Transcendence. Humans who conquered the Virgo Supercluster and were planning on manipulating multiple timelines into some kind of cosmic tier merging event in their plans. Then there is the Downstreamers which they are way too powerful for the entire Warp and real space universe to try to even phase simply one of them. For the power of a Downstreamer wields is so mighty and great he or she can handle a thousand big bangs like a casual endeavor for them. The chaos gods cannot beat that even within their own home turf and that is something even a Omega Plus Psyker cannot do.
The Imperium of Man vs The Borg would be a brutal match up I think.
assimilation doesnt work to get the tech because the crew doesnt know how the ship works either 😂
If any of the tech-priests come to the conclusion that the borg queen is the omnissiah...I mean, she could show up like their golden emperor, and if the adeptus mechanicus splits from the imperium, it's jover.
@@geoffreysherman609 And even if the average person doesn't know how the tech works, as @joaosturza said, Borg can directly assimilate tech. A cube hits a hiveworld and the Imperium is the big fucked.
I doubt a drone could take a marine, or even some of the specialist guard units in a fight. But the Borg overall would adapt very quickly to the Imperium's tactics and tech. And their own tech has some advantages, since both phaser and disruptor tech work *better* against dense and heavy armor rather than worse.
And transwarp and warp means no need to traverse the...uhh, warp. They'd end up overwhelming Imperium forces with sheer numbers and technological superiority, as they'd have no issues reverse engineering and upgrading tech they find.
Psyker can kill viltrumite essilly- brain damage- warp whispers- time travel to kill them in past(isaac ariman did that)
I think cyberpunk was incredibly downplayed here. The stats of many of Cyberpunk’s tech include army piercing and explosive and rail gun technology. And many of the augmented are physically equal to Space Marines, with automatic aiming
I HEAVEALY DISAGREE with Helldivers,you extreamly understimate them by comparing them to guardsmen even though they are lightyears to them,they only lightly panic when heavly injured,can use a wide range of weapons from pistols to lazer cannons and mechs,plus a helldiver with the proper gear could take down an Astartes like autocannons and Recoiless Rifles,not to mentions they can work together and find weakness.And finally the numbers,there're tens of millions of them while only a million astartes or so,and that's not counting the rest of the SEAF (which would be on the billions),it would be a Tau situation,not the top dog but it would take considerable resources and manpower to destroy Super Earth,not to mentions the eternal loyalty to Super Earth because why end up in a Imperial world that would be like living in Wolfenstein and having a Liberty awful time or live in a SE world where you Will have a considerable better life (compared to the Imperium) and if you capture SE they would mount a hellish resistance against the undemocratic Imperium,also Super Earth shines on its inovation and if required they could create planet destroyers,they didn't develop them because they were pointless
imma going to disagree on the Edgerunner crusade, V is powerful, but cyberpunk earth has way better stuff in the table-top lore, power armor with AI that lets you fire multiple weapons per turn would be devastating in the tabletop, and they do still have nukes
granted they would lose because they have less than 1 million people in space and no space weaponry but cyberpunk earth is almost impossible to hold because stuff like PDF and arbites cannot take the world
Adam smasher also definitely beats at least 1 marine, he has 70 years of experience, that's enough to make it to captain in the astartes, and those are 70 years of fighting
the problem isn't fighting cyberpunk earth, it's holding it, the tech priests would call for exterminatus on principle of the net being full of AI, and there are few natural resources since they were destroyed
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Do the saiyan empire minus of goku, vegeta, and broly
@@samuraibear5102 Raditz would breathe on an entire chapter and they would die, Nappa would lift two fingers and wipe out entire fleets
Doom _guy_ can take on a Chapter Master.
Doom _Slayer_ could 1v1 the Emperor and _maybe_ even win. He absolutely could best Khorne.
The Dark Lord's feats already surpassed all chaos gods, all while Doom Slayer killed the dark lord
Even Khorne the most serious and currently the most powerful chaos god couldn't even took over Terra and Sol System TWICE
Warframe vs Warhammer
This is a cool fight. I think warframe would fit in the 40k setting. Warframes are so few in number they could never really destory the imperium but they are strong enough to survive. Although the lore of warframe is kinda all over the place with feats. I think it suffers from "the rule of cool" as much as 40k.
Warframe character does a warframe dance
Space marines dies because its too cringe.
@@PinguineseNight Lord dances with them
I play warframe more than anything which is kinda sad I’ve never touched 40k tabletop or video game but I believe space marines would delete warframes
@@lemniscatelogos7917 It mainly depends on what legion their geneseed stems from, their arsenal, and their experience in combat. Veterans can be well over 400 years old for instance.
A Dark Angels paladin from the Horus Heresy could take scores of Warframes.
I'm not saying Titanfall would win, i just think you're underrating titans, along with specters, and reapers. I think a titan is probably halfway between a dreadnought and a terminator.
Also, your example of titans being bad at multiple target engagement is invalid because that was a titan surrounded on all sides by titans. An ultramarine surrounded on all sides by traitor ultra Marines would fare equally poorly.
Off the top of my head i don't know how the scale of production of the two franchises add up, but the imc and militia are both massive AND spaceborn AND have more prolific heavy weapons, so they'd definitely fare much, much better than gears or helldivers.
I was surprised by how he said Titans are much slower on ground on average compared to a space marine. Like bro, the average Titan is booster dancing across the battlefield and could punch or kick an Astartes quite a distance due to their size and mass, warp shenanigans would be rough but a squad of 10 Titans would certainly fare decently against a larger force of Astartes, even just two Legions could cut them up while protecting themselves and their backline sufficiently and a Ronin teleporting behind a squad of Astartes to cleave them in two would be lethal
Against anyone who's powerscaling in durability, attack potency, and destructive capacity is within the regular planet and moon tiers which requires a total of 59.44 zettatons for the GBE of Earth, 433 Exatons for the GBE of Mercury, and 29.6 Exatons for the GBE of Earth's moon every Astartes Legion and Custodes who isn't amped significantly by a exponential amount or built up a Alpha Plus tier pysker defensive barrier is going to get immediately one shot by the opponent's damage output. So a average Virtunimite would be a extreme danger to a entire Sector Fleet. Even Emperor Class Battleships and Gloriana Class Battleships would not be safe you would need to turn on the void shields as soon as possible and keep them on or else not even a thick adamantine hull and armor is going to protect you from a force worth Exatons tearing your ship from the inside out at relativistic plus combat and perception speeds.
You would need to detonate the ship's Warp drives or use weapon systems installed in vessels like the Phalanx, the Speranza, and Abaddon's planet killer ships and the Black Stone fortresses to land a direct shot. Which is very hard to do when you are trying land a hit on a small speedy target that is moving at light speed all around your vessel faster then your very out of date ten thousand year old computer systems can track and intercept in time.
I also think objective average Astartes alone taking over a city is a bit hyperbolic and takes away from the more in depth truth of the matter. Modern Astartes are used as strike forces now compared to their Great Crusade legion era selves. Meaning they are more sophisticated and adaptive for different hybrid option operations compared to the armies they were used as in the Great Crusade striking at the heads of rebellious movements and factions more often. Though there are times planetary campaigns are seen with full chapters those are special cases that require more logistics, resources, and fielded manpower and they very rarely happen when they are dealing with a other fronts they are getting slow grinding messages from the astropaths which can be sometime unreliable. The Imperium of Man's FTL communication networks really suck especially with how much of a concentrated monopoly of authority the varies inter-dependency institutions have in the Imperium of Man over bloated organization structure. In the Imperium of Man mostly everything that is restricted on the Imperium's institutes keep a frim tight grip on keeping the Imperium stagnant and regressive and barely advancing on certain fields in the massive overextended and uncleaned machine. The institutions, agencies, and houses are even willing to kill any person who tries linearly innovate their present technology even if the incentive intention was to make the Imperium more powerful in the long run those groups will be willing to kill such people most of the time and keep any knowledge of it for themselves into some office or vault where the contents of the documents or the blue prints of such research are simply forgotten for centuries or permanently.
The Imperium of Man is often extremely self sabotaging and incompetent on purpose often. Compared to Stellaris, Warframe, and the Forerunners the Imperium's hiccups and inability to crush the Chaos movements and xenos incursions are often extremely heavy self imposed restrictions when they got so many chances to make effective advances yet even in areas like the Imperial Navy they screw up time and time again using backwards body grinding methods over using simple autoloaders.
Even the UNSC and Terrans from Starcraft despite not having as powerful ships and as many deadly planet killing weapons with the exception of the Nova Bombs which are most destructive then average Exterminatus glassing ordinates would look at the meat grinding labor to load projectiles in Imperium ships and see how completely backwards that is and wasteful high cost of resources that is.
There's a mutitude of things that hard counter Viltrimites in 40k, void sheilds, psykers, daemons and warp stuff. That's not even going over durability ignoring weapons like a power weapons, pretty much every necron weapon in existence etc. A viltrimite cannot take on any 40k ships aslong as they have their sheilds up, if they fly into a void shield they will instantly be thrown into the warp and eaten by the infinite daemons that reside there. Void shields are litterely no joke, they tank terraton firepower like it's nothing. People forget that macro-cannons fire a kilo-ton project at almost the speed of light that is described as the size of habblocks, it's about 475.2 teratons per salvo from a light-cruiser.
@@NastyStankyChicken
I wouldn't say they take teratons of power like it is nothing. Keep in mind it depends alot on the type of void shields, Cruiser class void shields are not as strong as Emperor Class Battleship void shields, and Emperor Class void shields are not as strong as Gloriana and so on forth with other ships above those. As I already said you better keep those void shields up or else your vessel is as good as dead and ship is destroyed. I would like to see where that is said with a light cruiser though. Some viltrimites are already well above petatons and exatons so 475.2 teratons wouldn't be too much of a problem for them. You require many exatons of force to really start to hurt the top tiers. The good thing is planet tier explosions can nearly kill Viltrimite as what happened when Mark, Omni-Man, and Thaedus destroyed Viltrum by ramming through it together and they nearly died in the attempt. An explosion that would require 83.5086 zettatons to overcome the planet's GBE. On devianart a guy named kirito352 went in depth about this planetary destruction and he did pretty good with his analysis. Being on the surface of the sun can also kill the high tier viltrimites and it seem like they only last at best 10 minutes while under such extreme destructive energies produced by the sun.
The anti durability weaponry would need to actually hit the target and those are pretty rare and hard to deploy as logistics and supply lines in Warhammer 40k is very difficult to execute for every faction and it is hard to hit something that is moving at faster then light speeds when they want to move that fast. Not everyone is going to know they are gonna need those let alone actually hitting the mark.
My bet is they would underestimate the imperium and think the funny human running at him with a sword won't hurt him. Stand there and act tough thinking the sword will break. Then swish he head is gone. It would at least happen 3 times. Or maybe thinking they are a bad ass and stand on a void grenade or try and face tank a void missile. Then pop they are in the warp where at the end of the day your physical power can mean very little
@@freed991
After the first and couple times don't count on it especially for any warp based melee weapons. As soon as a Viltrumite feels even a ounce on pain in a few microseconds they are going to react very quickly. And it's going to be with full force making the person wielding it bloody paste on the ground. For vortex grenade it could be possible the super atoms might just let them resist better then regular matter does so if they aren't at the center where they are immediately pulled in the Warp and are just in the outer sphere of the radius I think the super atoms could give them some more resistance to the distorting pull then traditional matter. After all their bodies can resist the pull of black holes from far away so I wouldn't be too surprised if they could. Though mentally wise a whole other issue.
The Endless from DC. If you thought Chaos Gods were powerful wait til you see these guys.
I surprised you not add doom guy
I feel like the Astartes would recruit the Slayer due to his one man crusade against Hell.
Doom Guy would make the Horus Heresy look like child's play. He'd beat Khorn to death with Slaanesh.
I've been loving 40k for a while and I haven't really played Doom much and I can agree that the doomslayer would decimate 40k
@Fenris1349 doom guy just not play with roles. He always gonna go for chaos
I’m planning on doing a sequel to this kind of video sometime in the future, Doomguy is on the list to reappear…. So is Ben 10.
ok, I will also throw my hat in the ring:
Can BIONICLE SURVIVE in 40k? the short and most reductive answer is no, but lets break down why and what is brought to the table:
so the issue with Bionicle's setting first and formost ironically is that the numbers brought are small. Large scale numbers for the setting only reach the thousands which is already a problem.
secondly there aren't many Vehicles, so any and all strong points would be on the ground with man on man fights, and with Naval Battles their home is also their battle ship (and also god), albeit Mata Nui is quite literally a God Robot that can manipulate planets so I can't find it hard to believe it would be of a higher class then your standard eldar craftworld if he even activates at all
the actors, pros and cons:
Toa: the main heroes of the bionicle universe, they are biologically Cyborgs who can essentially live up to 10 thousand years (at least) like most of the inhabitants of the setting. while Bonkle is wonky with time scaling we don't really have a reference other then the face value of this statement. they basically use their own form of space magic in the form of elemental powers, which in the way they control them (creating, controlling and with some exceptions ABSORBING their elements) puts them closer on level to control with Avatar's benders then your average space wizard with larger feats like Gali Nuva being able to unleash one off powerful blasts that can flood entire islands with their power, however they still use their weapons as a focus for more efficient channeling, so its a weird hybrid. more importantly, Elements come in various flavors: Fire, Ice, Stone, Earth, Water, Air and the non-primary elements Plasma, The Green (plant life), Gravity, Magnetism, Psionics, Light, Shadow (special conditions needed for this), Sonics, Lightning, and Iron. Toa stand about 6-7 feet tall, have general mastery of their weapons and powers if given enough time to train (most dont), can lift about a ton without enhancements.
Positives: Elemental powers depending on the Element of the Toa could be strong enough to combat small groups of Astartes if wielded by a VETERAN Toa, things like Iron, Plasma, and Magnetism can make them look like Tin cans to crush or melt with ease
Kanohi Mask powers can also give a nice edge too on top of combat skills and powers
Thousands of years of experience CAN give plenty of potential
Cyborg bodies being about 85% mechanical means that their survivability is pretty high too, and can fix themselves too if they lose a limb
Negatives:
the Kanohi masks are their biggest weakness as well. clean sniper shots to anything that can knock off a mask with enough force or god forbid break it leave the Toa at half strength, and unable to use elemental powers
Toa do not have rivival hacks, even if we cherry picked the strongest of the non legendary masks there isn't anything that can stave off death itself, and a lot of gear hypothesized would have to be cherry picked to compete
The Toa Code prevents killing, which would also have to be ignored in times of war like this
(I can make the list for the others later)
Please finish this, I’m very interested
Take your time on this, but I'm leaving a reply so I get notified when you add more, this is actually a pretty interesting analysis
Fun fact: due to a bionicle easter egg in the 2022 galaxy explorer, bionicle exists whithin the world of lego space, which means you could count in the different lego space factions in this as well
Also if you consider the lego spacemen being between the size of either a normal human or a space marine(if you compare the physical model sizes) the toa are about the size of imperial knights
This is beautiful, I hope to see how this evolves
Honestly if you doing another VS, I think Helldivers vs Titanfall would be interesting.
I think Star Wars would give 40k a run for their money technology wise.
The only two of these match ups I have any comments for are the Onni-Man line up, and Cyberpunk.
Onni-Man, I do think you may have sold them a bit short. Though I have never seen the show, I do know the Viltrumites are exceptionally strong. Taking out space marines would be no problem. But mixing other factions into the mix then you might have a chance. I know they are weak against intense heat and sound vibrations. So Noise Marines would have a good chance, and then a well placed Plasma Cannon, or Titan Volcano Cannon. Plasma wouldn't likely kill, but it would hurt a lot. Volcano Cannon would likely be the one to do it. But that's just me spit balling a couple ideas.
As for Cyberpunk, I think you may have sold V short. At least in terms of survivability. While he may not have the means to put any space marine down, they would likely have a hard time touching him. As even with base augmetics he's very mobile and hard to hit. But if you mix in something like Sandevistan's, than his speed becomes almost akin to Solitaires from the Harlequins, or Eversor Assassin. At that point, it becomes and endurance game and V just moving long enough to not get hit and torn apart.
I mean the characters in 40K can't defeat 40K. I think the biggest answer as to why is because unkillable daemons exist that just keep respawning until you're down, and also play on your fears and desires to corrupt you to their own cause. Don't underestimate the power of temptation toward anyone who enters the 40K universe.
Speaking of evil Superman you should also include the real thing with DC and marvel baby not their entire rosters because the one above all would be cheating but at least all the Earth based heroes
The lantern corps would also be a great match up especially if they combined together
Ah, the age old question: Can It WARHAMMER!?
A general reminder that our modern day rifles are akin to 40k lasguns, as they have the same exact statistics. Which means any universe with relatively modern guns such as Gears would only need the much hyberbolic 100 dudes to kill a marine.
However we have also seen a naked dude with a sharp stick kill a marine, they're far more vulnerable than people like to state.
Edgerunners would fuck up Astartes. Unfortunately, Astartes just aren't very adaptive. In open combat a runner is gonna have a bad time, but they rarely play like that. And with the ability of deckers directly killing machine spirits and taking them over, well, it's gonna be a bad time for 40k. Now just on scale, 40k would win, but runners would give them a run for their money.
Kratos would just get pieced up. Dude can die, and really enough guns would just tear him down.
Viltrumites actually clear. The Imperium is slow, and a Viltrumite could tear down and throw the spaceships around before they could be brought to bear. And if one hits the golden throne hard enough, Terra blows up so y'know that sucks.
Titanfall loses to scale, not marines.
Helldivers probably clear. They would likely begin to exhibit some of the faith based powers of the Sisters, and with their mobility completely dance around the Imperium. As we see in the, I believe Ciaphas Cain books, many Marine squads lose to sacrificial tactics as they just don't understand them.
Kratos clears tf are you on,
A seasoned hell diver definitely could kill an astartes. We have to remember that in lore, chaos space marines get dropped by guardsman as well as tau, orks etc. being capable of killing space marines. Each of those factions on average are vastly inferior to space marines and yet they manage. Not every space marine is going to be a highly trained chapter master like Sigusmund or Dante. It's why during the great crusade legions often took heavy losses in their campaigns
The Locust would have the best bet of doing some serious harm to Space Marines, them being underground would make the Space Marines probably hesitate before going underground. A lone chapter would take a lot of casualties because of the narrow spaces, I mean look at the Imperiums war against the squats during the Great Crusade, the Legions struggled against them due to the tight confines, which is why we saw Terminator armor created. COG is pretty screwed though.
The thing with Titanfall is that their tech could hurt and kill Astartes, but the big thing that they probably got that a lot of other sci-fi series has over 40k is FTL. It takes weeks or even months to travel between star systems in 40k and it is not safe either. Meanwhile Helldivers, Titanfall, etc. they all can travel between star systems within a day or two or even within hours. And being able to be faster than your enemy and being where he is not is more important than actually being able to fight them.
Cyberpunks universe is honestly not nearly fleshed out enough for us to know how well they would actually do. They have a lot of weapons and tech that the Imperium could reproduce and use but don't because of ai tech. They have some ridiculously smart weapons that 40k can't replicate expect from Humanities Golden Age of tech.
Helldivers I dunno man, they got some pretty powerful infantry weapons, but they really depend heavy on fire support and while they have a lot of ships in their Navy, they are tiny and weak in comparison to even the smallest Imperial warships and I don't see them being able to contest the space domain for very long. Their best strat would be to just FTL travel to worlds that aren't nearly as well defended and torch it and move on before Imperium forces can respond.
The only counter I could see the Space Marines having for Omni man, but even then its a toss up. Necrons probably could because their weapons are so esoteric that they probably could easily wound them.
I think omni man would destory a lot of 40k then hit a brick wall with the first really strong pysker shows up. Librarians, Eldar, necrons, void weapons I think would mess omni man up.
@@freed991 Probably. I could also seeing the Assassinorum MIGHT be able to think of something. The Imperial Navy would be the only force I could see possilbly taking him down conventionally just because of the sheer destructive power a single ship can unleash. I am also curious if a Virus bomb could do anything too?
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In the comics we see mark and and thragg fighting in the sun until Thragg burns to death, 40k plasma is as hot as our sun so I would say the imperium definitely has the weapons to fight viltrumites let alone other races, I would say it could go either way though if each side used proper tactics
Do transformers vs 40k
I mean if vulkan is alive yk he can pretty much beat anyone lol. "VULKAN LIVES"
Pullin an all nighter, I see something that looks intresting. Hears Destiny mentioned.... subbed ~ Love the content so far
Gotta go check out the past Destiny videos!
it would be interesting to see how the Eva's from Evangelion and how the Jedi, sith, and infinite empire from star wars compare
I'm not gonna lie, this video was incredibly entertaining. Please keep it up.
I have an Idea, no idea if its been done before. But, what about Transformers?
The first issue that needs to be addressed is "Which Transformers?" There's a lot, and different continuities treat power scaling differently.
Lets start with Unicron and Primus I guess, pretty simple right? The two gods of the Transformers universe, the size of planets, and Unicron is capable of eating other planets. So marvel comics or Cybertron? Or IDW? Or Prime? The Bayverse? Unfortunately I don't know enough about all of these specific timelines, continuities, reboots etc. to get into detail about all of them, And the toys. Oh god the toys. if the newest "Nemesis" figure is to be taken into account, exactly how powerful is she? And the Omega Sentinels?
Oh god. I just remembered Beast Wars.
each transformer is millions of years old, they have insane battle experience, but their ships are very slow
The ultimate trump card the 40K verse has against most any other verse is the warp factor. It's really difficult to compete with something that can literally do anything your imagination can come up with power level wise. The End and the Death series pretty much confirms there really is no limit to the warps power level.
I wonder if Kratos would awaken the Emperor to help him defeat the church.
Doomslayer is the only video game character i can think of
The doctor could. He’ll let 7 play around and he will unmake all the chaos gods
Two characters I would like to see you have go against the Warhammer 40k universe are Ratchet and Clank from well Ratchet and Clank.
Their weapons and armors and the multiple Rynos they have would cause so and I mean so many different problems for the Imperium of Man and if you decide not give them that then you could give Ratchet and Clank their morph weapons like the Sheepinator. Physical durability doesn’t matter when these two can just turn you into animals like Sheep. You could even add in Giant Clank or Alpha Clank into the mix which would make things even better and one of the Ryno’s are literal mech proto suits. As for armors you could quite literally give Ratchet the armors he use in many of the games especially the ones from Rift Apart and Size Matters
They have so and I mean so many powerful weapons, gadgets and gear in general you could choose from that series that would make them interesting to go against the more crazier factions in 40k.
I can also see Ratchet and Clank picking up and grabbing some of the weapons of different factions like the Bolter and adding then to their arsenal (you can’t tell me Ratchet wouldn’t use nor love a Bolter especially if it’s ps2 era Ratchet).
Also I would pay money to see every faction’s reaction to Ratchet and Clank as a duo and their crazy weapons and gadgets. Imagine a tech priest’s reaction to all the crazy bs that Clank could do or a Space Marine’s reaction to being turned into a sheep. You can have Ratchet and Clank fighting on Commorragh’s arena similar to the other arena’s they have fought in like Dreadzone, Annihilation Nation and lastly in Rift Apart Zurkie’s arena
"Sir there is a weird fur covered humanoid running around on that planet with a AI robot."
A....what...
"Make the planet not a thing anymore. We can't let the abdominal intelligence leave this planet"
*planet gets hit my nukes, virus bombs and then a core cracking bomb and is turned into a asteroid field.*
@@freed991 you realize Clank can fly into Space right? As shown in Size Matters
Compare them to some DMC characters, Dante and Vergil would be very interesting.
A fireteam of 12 guardians from D2 straight up negs 40k in it’s entirety
Shrike from Hyperion Cantos. He is absurdly OP. Literally no one except maybe Big E himself has a chance.
An alpha plus phyker would destroy them think of Magnus on Prospero he was holding back trying to let his legion leave he coulda simply deleted the planet but choose to fight Russ
If there is a sequel to the vid, im interest to see how Ausra from Asura's wrath would fair.
Love to see this type of video. Here are some more suggestions:
Halo
Doctor Who
Mass Effect
Battlestar Galactica (2003)
Star Wars
Star Trek
Stargate
StarCraft
The Expanse
Fallout
Dead Space
Terminator
Half Life
Call of Duty Infinite Warfare
Alien vs Predator (The ones set in space)
Doom
Homeworld
Atomic Heart
Wolfenstein
Independence Day
BattleTech
I don't think even Master Chief could take on a Marine, just on tech alone. The Forerunners are the only ones in Halo i could see being a possible match.
But as for Mass Effect, i do wonder how a Krogan warlord might do in a 1v1, they're probably pretty equal to an average Marine.
@@Spike2276 The forerunners would dominate the 40K universe... They move stars around and build galaxy destroying super weapons.
Don't forget an Adult Ben 10.
The Guardian (our player character)
Guardian solos tenfold
Young Wolf probably doesn't technically solo--most of the big feats under their belt canonically happen with a fireteam. (Yeah, technically some raids and raid encounters are soloable, like Nezarec and Atheon, but that doesn't strike me as reliable canon information.) Some of the more impressive solo feats they have are creatures more like Savathun and Calus. They put up a pretty good fight against the Witness but are forced to retreat and come back with a fireteam.
But you tell the Guardians that the Emperor has a cool gun and that raid happens inside of a year.
Oryx and Xivu Arath can solo quite a lot, Savathun probably finds a way to not have to. Witness solos entire civilizations without even slowing down. Rhulk probably only lost to the Guardian's fireteam because he humored the fight in the first place. Riven's death in her raid was basically suicide by cop, a part of a longer con that ensured her children lived on in the fact of the extinction of her species.
And the Vex are perhaps the most terrifying; a random Vex Goblin once simulated 227 perfect copies of the research team studying it, complete with interior experience as best as any of said researchers could tell. They sort of have something adjacent to time travel (it's pretty vague how it works; it's been noted in-universe that if it were truly an unlimited power of theirs, they'd have already won). Turns out the creator-gods, the Gardener and Winnower, simulate universes through a big game of Conway's Game of Life (no, really, that's the lore, see Unveiling). The Vex were the pattern that asserted itself over every single one of those countless universes, much to the vexation of the Gardener ("vexed" is the actual word choice, which is a big reason we know that). The Gardener and Winnower got into a fistfight over this, and they accidentally made a version of the universe they could interfere in to some extent, which is the current one.
As far as we can tell, the only reason the Vex haven't won yet is that they can't simulate paracausal effects--and they've come very, very close a few times. By the way, did I mention they just found a crazy new paracausal artifact we don't know what it does a few weeks ago? Or that their simulation network includes the very Garden that that all went down in?
The Vex are the final boss of Destiny. But also, can a microbial soup really "solo" anything? The definition of the word is a bigger hindrance to them than the actual forces arrayed against them.
@@life-destiny1196 One... Fucking... Guardian...
agron split a planet in two with a swing of his axe, and the lion defeat him.
Helldivers vs Killzone Helghast
This would be a good match up i think.
Can you do a comparison of soldiers, navy, special forces ect,
Such as COG vs imperial guard, UNSC soldiers, Clone troopers (Star wars)
Grunts on the ground, maybe yeah
@@Buster-McTunder speaking of grunts the covanent vs the locust horde
Final Fantasy 7 SOLDIERs vs Astartes would be interesting. As a matter of fact, people like Noctis from 15, Lightning from 13, Clive from 16, and Warrior of Light from 14 would all be interesting.
Also, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, i wonder how some of the more ridiculous Stands would interact with 40k.
Doomguy is practically the avatar of khorn. If you dropped him in the warp he might kill all the other chaos gods as he grows stronger as his hatred grows over time. He couldn't kill khorn himself, though as he has made khorn infinitly stronger, but he wouldn't lose either. The two two would be locked in eternal conflict growing more and more powerful over time. Doomguy is kinda like Hulk but just with his hatred of demons.
How tf is a locust zerker going to kill even the lamest space marine.
16:24 I have to respectfully disagree about kratos being like a second emperor, dude only has physical strength which can easily be worked around.
Black Rock Shooter
How would the Tenno from Warframe fare in 40k
V scales to adam who before becoming a full borg was able to survive the bomb which destroyed arasaka tower. Than when he became a borg he easily survived David gravity ability which can crush armored vehicles and create massive craters. Adam Also shown being able to Block smart ammo and has a Sandevista which can slow time down by like 80% these are all things v scales to so to say v can only handle 1 space marine is complete Bullshit
I don’t think there’s any evidence that V is as durable as Adam. Even when fully kitted V can get taken out by being run over. V beating Adam was a manner of maneuvering and speed paired with weaponry.
But V is fairly weak durability wise compared to Adam, I don’t think just because they could beat him means they’re automatically capable of all the same things as Adam.
@@Buster-McTunder i have been able to take hundreds of bullets while playing the game but even if that was the case v is still has or at the very least can get a Sandevista which would make him capable to easily slow a group of space marines and kill them as v even though not as durable as adam maybe. His attacks which includes punching is still physically powerful enough to harm adam and yes you can beat adam with physical melee attacks. Something david even with all his stuff couldn't do. I think v is as durable as adam as if v can harm adam than his punches must be incrediblly powerful and because every action has a equal and opposite reaction v must be really durable in order to throw a punch
@@Buster-McTunderwhere did you get that info lol i get hit by cars all the time in cyberpunk without a scratch
How about the Xeelee?
Doomslayer slaps any marine
Space Marines/guardsmen vs Element Corruption? (Ark Survival Evolved/Ascended)
The hive trio from Destiny 😊
How would factions from mtg deal tho like the eldeazi, plainswalkiers, nicol bolas, sliver, pherexia
one has to first beat warhammer 1-39,999 before they can hope to take on warhammer 40k
Can Sonic the Hedgehog survive the Warhammer 40k universe with all his abilities from the previous games?
I feel like supersonic could beat khorne
Archie Sonic I bet would easily do it. Video Game Sonic tho? Idk.
Bugs bunny could defeat every chaos god.
anthem and its freelancers / sentinels
I do have a request, can you throw in Rick Taylor from spaltterhouse? Like the 2010 remake? He has some insane feat and would do so well in 40k
Don’t think I’ve ever heard of that, I can look into it
So chaos solos them all especially the gods
Yeah, viltramites would body everything that isn't a psycher or necron. Nothing moves as fast, is as strong, or as durable. Not even big E. It's takes super advanced tech or magic for 40k to damage and the ground forces don't have that. The ships on the other hand have a chance, but the viltramites have natural ftl so they can easily dodge whatever the ships can throw at them.
So essentially, the viltrumites world-conquering tactics would prove untenable, as they would have to literally just go planet by planet destroying them with their sheer velocity of their in-atmosphere flight. They wouldn't even bother doing such a a thing, they would probably just see how fucked up extreme the 40k galaxy is and nope out to another galaxy, assuming there are other galaxies left, considering some of the Tyrannid theories.
they speed up to ftl over a period of time but they could definetly dodge the physical projectiles most ships use
@@averageeughenjoyer6429Not exactly.
Viltrumites don’t really have to speed up in order to reach FTL. They are generally just that fast even if they actively slow down on habitable planets as to not light their atmosphere on fire.
We see Nolan is capable of escaping the Solar System in no time once he leaves the earth’s atmosphere. Alan (even before any of his power-ups) is able to travel throughout the universe in no time.
A lot of Invincible’s higher tier characters are in a *lot* faster than any ships in 40k. Technically including too since they haven’t quite demonstrated having the tech to traverse galaxies worth of distance in a relatively small amount of time.
Basically psychics or vortex grenades
Q from Star Trek.
The real wh40k is the friends we made along the way
“What are we? Some kinda Warhammer 40,000?”
@@Buster-McTunder horus heresy is the one and only 40k
AYYY TITANFALL NICE
Idve loved to hear more about the other factions in warhammer. Wonder how Kratos would do against the Ctan since theyre more powerful than any god he's ever fought and if you do manage to kill one you get horribly cursed
The Ctan act as reality anchors, killing one entirely erases the concept of such a thing from the universe. The fallout of a dead Ctan is catastrophic at minimum, beyond things like getting rid of thunder or one sun.
What about dante from devil may cry?
I would also say that Dante, Vergil, Nero, and the rest of the demons from The Devil May Cry franchise can absolutely solo Warhammer 40k overall, hell The Devil May Cry franchise are even stronger than The God of War franchise; and I really like them both. But, Dante beats the crap out of Kratos-[Dante is 9 to 12 dimensional, while Kratos is around 5 to 6 dimensional and such. But, since both Dante and Kratos had a big scaling buff. Then, both Dante and Kratos are even STRONGER than before!]. So yeah, there's that of course! :)
How hot is a laz gun’s if you don’t mind answering
I am wondering how elden ring Would stack up considering the fact that they have semi gods and similar to destiny the player character a tarnished which there are millions of would be very hard to fight because of the resurrectio weapons of legend and crazy builds
You walk up to the Golden Throne and find a summon sign: "Let Me Solo Him"
I gotta disagree with u on the cyberpunk front. You failed to mention any of the corps and their private armies. Hell Max-tac everyone is equipped with a sandevistan and many performance enchanting bodily tech. And saka ninjas are literally just the assassinorum which are known for having groups dedicated to dealing with Astartes.
I mean yes I did only use V, but even with the rest of the verse we run into the same issue as say Gears of War-- exterminatus.
@@Buster-McTunder wym? The 2077 world has and uses nukes for pretty petty reason and maxtac all have sandevistans, with some of the most devastating armaments/ordinates I'm talking guns that are akin to bolters that rip through teched out armor and hackers that would immobilize many such as the ironhands that are more machine than flesh. Ik you said that the tech wouldnt be hackable but I think thats false as we've seen examples of ironman type interfaces and terminals. Thats not even to account for the corp armies that actively develop new ways of warfare such as the grav suit from CP Edge runners that can completely stop bullets midair.
on the topic of Kratos, there are two individuals that, when working together, can overcome literally any challenge, the Primarch Leeman Russ and Captain-General Constantin Valdor of the Legio Custodes. the reason for these two specifically is because of two weapons entrusted to the two of them by The Emperor: The Apollonian spear and the Dionysian spear, sister weapons hand-made by the Emperor himself, thusly making them Godly Weapons. should Kratos face the imperium the time of The Great Crusade and the nature of Kratos being revealed, The Emperor would send for Valdor and Russ to take out Kratos. Russ being famously infamous for his combat prowess and Valdor being on par, if not a rung above Primarchs like Roboute Guilliman, I'd say kratos would be quite fairly fucked.
Yeah, but he's talking about now, not before.... I'm a 40k, and then that's what I thought of first, but keep in mind, valdors still kicking around ..... but russ is in gw limbo and until he's back he's m.i.a and please don't use heresy comparisons he only used them in strength feats as well as legion when everyone knows the only legion left is the vlka fenrica(space wolves) the final bit to it not being 30k is he said Bobby g having daddy's burning sword, 40k gets cooked if they f around and find out no exceptions( asides from live big-e but he ain't around ) , sorry bout the tangent but yeah 40-41k is fucked if it's old kratos including daemons cause he has soul killer weapons in the blades so not a fun end.
I'm not fully aware of 40k lore but from what I understand they just get ripped apart by pure stats but I could be immensely wrong.
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For the luls, Pokemon would be a fun one.
All the Pokemon or 1 BILLION GUARDSMEN
@@Buster-McTunder
Some other for the Lula, but also because they probably could.
Kirby and the Sailor Guardians from Sailor Moon.
I kinda just want to see how 40k diehards react to how surprisingly busted those 2 are
@@benhaver9737 I didn't even think of Kirby 😂
Bro thinks custodes are demigods lmao. Custodes are to Space Marines what Space Marines are to normal humans. And by Dorns words 1 SM is equal in his eyes to 10 humans.
Omni man would just ignite any space marine own planet air or just throw capital ships at the planet for shit and giggles and primarch aren't safe either
Eh, coming off the back of your Oryx video (I just found your channel mind you) I feel like your takes on the 40k verse can be a bit...well misinformed or bias. You mention for instance about Custodes in this video but not about specific chapters of marines. Could certain factions win against the Ultramarines? Yes, I think they could. But against Blood Angels? Against those RG who can "go invisible" like their primarch? I think you're simplifying the Marines to their basics and making alot of your takes somewhat skewed.
This is 100% true, just trying to hit the ballpark because I’ll never really bother to dig into the specifics of each variable; maybe one day but I’m not sure.
The main idea is to pick up the greatest feats I can find of Team A and B and mash them together so that from a squinted glance you might be able to discern something from it; but I don’t take these very seriously, trying to just make something people find entertaining or to interact with, these videos have some 50x more comments on them than others so if I can also get people to interact with the question and answer it themselves in the comments, it builds this awesome little community of discourse that I really love.
Doom universe too doom slayer vs 40k
Slayer is biblical level scaling, big E himself is just another boss fight to the man.
I identify as an Apache helicopter how dare you misgender me as an animal
Dead meme.
@@Buster-McTunder I only communicate in dead memes lol
You are the warhammer 40k
There’s 1 character and 1 group who I think should’ve been on this list.
Partially because they could absolutely beat the Astartes, but also because of just how intensely it would piss off the “40k always wins” idiots.
1. The Dreamland Crusade: Kirby
If you know Kirby lore then you already know this is a no brainer. If you don’t. Then you should know that Kirby has single handedly defeated beings on a similar level to the Chaos gods, repeatedly and often
2. The Silver Millennium Crusade: Sailor Moon
If you only know Sailor Moon for girls in Miniskirts fighting Monsters of the week.
Well stop me if you’ve heard this before. A collective consciousness formed from the negative thoughts emotions and ideas of every living thing in the galaxy called Chaos.
Sound Familiar? Yeah Sailor Moon beat that. And she never had to betray her closest friends, or children to do so. Not enough? OK how about her getting hit with what was effectively a Gravity Cannon like in 40k (one of the strongest weapons a Space Marine can carry) and she just straight up got up from it, while being hit by it. Or how Sailor Galaxia started wiping out entire Solar Systems with basically a hand wave when she stole the Silver Crystal from Sailor Moon
Neo Queen Serenity: 1
Emperor of Mankind: 0
I’ll be sure to keep Kirby in mind for the sequel
A single time war dalek can solo all of 40k.