Kojima had a different idea for Rose early on. While still Raiden's girlfriend, rather then being part of mission control, he planned for her to be one of the Big Shell hostages who managed to slip away and then contact Raiden to provide him with assistance. Raiden would look for her, but they would always miss each other out due to circumstances. I feel like a lot of current dialogues with Rose were written with that older role in mind. Currently when she calls Jack to talk about how they met and other things like that, she comes off as overbearing girlfriend, but those conversations would make sense if she herself was trapped on Big Shell with bunch of heavily armed terrorists, since that would be a way for her to calm herself down in the middle of dangerous situation and at the same time reassure Raiden about her safety, so he could focus on the mission.
Dang, wonder why it was it changed to what we have. (I have a theory, but I'll refrain from saying since it involves future game knowledge.) I still like the game overall, but Rose and Raiden going at it like a typical rocky couple was kind of the low point of the game tbh. In the context of Rose being on the Big Shell as an escaped hostage, that would have made the codex convos with her A LOT more bearable and maybe even added to the atmosphere instead of retract.
@@thespectator5259 Hostage situation and the things realated where removed because of the original plan for the game envolved situations similar to 2001 real life events, they mostly removed everything that could allude to it in any way, this was also a monumental task considering the game was to release around november of 2001 and got released in 2002 changed in less than 1 year to what it is now.
Raiden: I just killed someone 😢 Rose: Sir, this is a battlefield. Also Rose: Hey, Jack. Just calling to reminisce on the day we met for the next 10 minutes.
A funny thing they included is if you exited the strut just after the meeting Stillman cutscene, you would've seen "Pliskin" running across in a cardboard box, and had you then contacted him, Raiden would've asked if there was a member of Dead Cell who did that, because clearly only a weirdo like them would do something like that.
the beeping is a critical health warning welonz - it beeps when your health bar changes from blue to red indicating you're bleeding to death - you can use a ration to heal, use a bandage to patch yourself up or you can crouch and let the nanomachines in your body slowly close the wound :)
- You don't have to 'head shot' the cyphers. 3 shots to the base will kill them as well (unless that changed with this collection). This is sometimes easier than going for the 'head shot'. - When Stillman tells you that there are no more bombs on the strut you're on it might seem a little unnecessary since there's only 1 per strut, but on harder difficulties there is more than 1 bomb on some of the struts so that comment is more helpful then. Overall another great series Welonz!
I'm picturing Agents dodging bullets in The Matrix, only the Agent is standing completely still as the bullets whizz past. Basically like Fortune, but without the bullet bending.
I appreciate you not giving up when things go bad. There's a lot to figure out with this game, along with not being really comfortable with the controls yet. Keep up the good work!
42:51 You don't need to drag sleeping enemies into lockers, they'll kick him and say "The situation is normal" and go back. Sleeping enemies doesn't remember what happened, only stunned enemies will remember if you don't put them to sleep while they're down.
The funniest thing is that the most optimal strategy for the Fortune "Fight" for the harder difficulties is that You just equip the cardboard box and run back and forth until the time's up. That's literally it. lmao
29:52 There's always that one guy tasked with radioing command, and they get suspicious if he fails to make contact. Take him out only if you want company lol. Taking a little time to observe enemy patrol routines helps. Be patient, Welonz! Its a stealth game! I'm extremely happy they made getting the radar working part of the game. It's such a sigh of relief when you get it haha.
2:25 Just dropping this here because it applies to all MGS games. That spot is too narrow for the guards to pass through and they will move the box and find you. A better placement for the box in this case would be either corner of that hallway. They will just ignore you and enter through the doorway instead. 24:04 Also look closely at the map, it will show you vents that are hidden from view
fantastic episode! I remember playing the MGS games ages ago and not really getting most of what was going on because I was just well, a dumb kid lol. I was always curious about these games and always wanted to revisit them but I only got busier and honestly just felt like playing other games. You commentary really adds to the experience, I love experiencing this sorta like a first time through your playthroughs while I watch it on the side as I work lol.
yeah if you do pull-ups while hanging your grip gets better, 100 each to level up, it sounds like a lot but with a bit of effort, you can get through them quick enough. also with the cipher, 1 shot to the cam or 3 to the body
you can get that item in strut f by crawling in the vent in the room the node is in. its the socom suppressor and is very good. also every time you get a new keycard return to f as it contains new equipment and check all the doors. similar to the armory in mgs1
The beeping, at the mines was you bleeding. you kan stop it by using a bandage, or lie down and wait. and when you stand against the wall, I think you can use R1 and L1 or it's R2 and L2 to walk along the wall, remember you still have to stick to the wall with the joystick. the cardboard boxes can be used for fast travel from the logistics center to the place indicated on the box. use the box and go up on the transport bond
I remember what I tried doing was use Raiden's backflip to jump over every 2nd panel while running so half would be left for doing it again on the way back. What suprised me it actually worked on 1st try and I got a great laugh out of it. lv 1 hanging also gives you enough time to get to that last stable gap and push against railing works as well. I wouldn't call it most annoying I think it's a pretty fun suprise.
I want to see Oscar Isaac eat multiple wholeass rations in the movie. Also, rub against walls and floors weirdly. Like a proper video game adaptation. I'm kinda joking. But i'm also kinda serious.
oh yeah, there was a movie adaptation announced, wasn't there? I completely forgot since I heard absolutely nothing abot it since, let me check... since July 2018.
Do I assume correct you are sitting way too close in front of a way too large PC-monitor? That's probably why you keep missing things at the corner of your screen like your radar or your health going down. The "peeping" was your health. You were bleeding. Mind you, this is a videogame developed for a TV-screen. You are supposed to have the entire screen within your view cone.
4:33 - Ah, Kojima ... even the Game Over screens aren't safe from your innovations! MGS4 does something in a similar (although even more unusual) vein, so I hope the Legacy Collection eventually gives more people a chance to discover it. 1:04:41 - No, she's got the right guy; I'm pretty sure that the one guard Raiden killed earlier was her dad.
*hidden codec message spoiler ahead* Commandant from the Marine Corp ship 2 years ago was Fortune's father and also Vamp's lover. There's a lot of interesting codecs, especially about Vamp, Fortune and Stillman and I wish they were easier to get without spamming everyone 20 times per strut during bomb disposal.
Stillman: "Raiden, Mc-fake -name, listen up.Fatman's got my number. I triggered the remote activation on this bomb, and now it looks like I'm going to die. In retrospect, licking the bomb probably wasn't the best idea I've ever had. Pliskin(Mc-fake-name): "PETE GET OUT OF THERE!!" Stillman: "No." *long pause* 💥💥AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Just popping in here on the latest vid to ask a question. Has welonz played JULIA Among the Stars? Its a story heavy game and fairly old. Seems it might fit within her favored genre.
Rose: Defusing a bomb is like starting a relationship :D
Raiden: ROSE I'M KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING HERE!!
Kojima had a different idea for Rose early on. While still Raiden's girlfriend, rather then being part of mission control, he planned for her to be one of the Big Shell hostages who managed to slip away and then contact Raiden to provide him with assistance. Raiden would look for her, but they would always miss each other out due to circumstances.
I feel like a lot of current dialogues with Rose were written with that older role in mind. Currently when she calls Jack to talk about how they met and other things like that, she comes off as overbearing girlfriend, but those conversations would make sense if she herself was trapped on Big Shell with bunch of heavily armed terrorists, since that would be a way for her to calm herself down in the middle of dangerous situation and at the same time reassure Raiden about her safety, so he could focus on the mission.
Dang, wonder why it was it changed to what we have. (I have a theory, but I'll refrain from saying since it involves future game knowledge.) I still like the game overall, but Rose and Raiden going at it like a typical rocky couple was kind of the low point of the game tbh. In the context of Rose being on the Big Shell as an escaped hostage, that would have made the codex convos with her A LOT more bearable and maybe even added to the atmosphere instead of retract.
@@thespectator5259 Hostage situation and the things realated where removed because of the original plan for the game envolved situations similar to 2001 real life events, they mostly removed everything that could allude to it in any way, this was also a monumental task considering the game was to release around november of 2001 and got released in 2002 changed in less than 1 year to what it is now.
@@EstebanBrenesV Yeahhhh, that... checks.
Raiden: I just killed someone 😢
Rose: Sir, this is a battlefield.
Also Rose: Hey, Jack. Just calling to reminisce on the day we met for the next 10 minutes.
A funny thing they included is if you exited the strut just after the meeting Stillman cutscene, you would've seen "Pliskin" running across in a cardboard box, and had you then contacted him, Raiden would've asked if there was a member of Dead Cell who did that, because clearly only a weirdo like them would do something like that.
the beeping is a critical health warning welonz - it beeps when your health bar changes from blue to red indicating you're bleeding to death - you can use a ration to heal, use a bandage to patch yourself up or you can crouch and let the nanomachines in your body slowly close the wound :)
"Did you want to save?"
"Yes! Why did you think I called you?"
I dunno. Just to talk? She's your girlfriend!
Fortune's entire backstory is a masterclass in misery. The poor woman cannot catch a break.
- You don't have to 'head shot' the cyphers. 3 shots to the base will kill them as well (unless that changed with this collection). This is sometimes easier than going for the 'head shot'.
- When Stillman tells you that there are no more bombs on the strut you're on it might seem a little unnecessary since there's only 1 per strut, but on harder difficulties there is more than 1 bomb on some of the struts so that comment is more helpful then.
Overall another great series Welonz!
That whole bit with the Cypher was hilarious 😂
I'm picturing Agents dodging bullets in The Matrix, only the Agent is standing completely still as the bullets whizz past.
Basically like Fortune, but without the bullet bending.
14:04 I wonder if Kojima had intended the pun?
It ain't me!
It ain't me!
I ain't no fortunate son!
The dead cell members boss theme absolutely slaps.
Yell Dead Cell is a good boss theme.
I appreciate you not giving up when things go bad. There's a lot to figure out with this game, along with not being really comfortable with the controls yet. Keep up the good work!
I'm so glad you have the wisdom to see the messages this game is sending. You're rock as always, Welonz.
the beeping was low health, or bleeding.
to hang off, you cannot hold any weapon in your hands.
To hang off a rail, it doesn't matter if you're holding a weapon or not.
42:51 You don't need to drag sleeping enemies into lockers, they'll kick him and say "The situation is normal" and go back. Sleeping enemies doesn't remember what happened, only stunned enemies will remember if you don't put them to sleep while they're down.
The funniest thing is that the most optimal strategy for the Fortune "Fight" for the harder difficulties is that You just equip the cardboard box and run back and forth until the time's up.
That's literally it. lmao
29:52 There's always that one guy tasked with radioing command, and they get suspicious if he fails to make contact. Take him out only if you want company lol.
Taking a little time to observe enemy patrol routines helps. Be patient, Welonz! Its a stealth game!
I'm extremely happy they made getting the radar working part of the game. It's such a sigh of relief when you get it haha.
2:25 Just dropping this here because it applies to all MGS games. That spot is too narrow for the guards to pass through and they will move the box and find you. A better placement for the box in this case would be either corner of that hallway. They will just ignore you and enter through the doorway instead.
24:04 Also look closely at the map, it will show you vents that are hidden from view
fantastic episode! I remember playing the MGS games ages ago and not really getting most of what was going on because I was just well, a dumb kid lol. I was always curious about these games and always wanted to revisit them but I only got busier and honestly just felt like playing other games. You commentary really adds to the experience, I love experiencing this sorta like a first time through your playthroughs while I watch it on the side as I work lol.
3:30 - That made me laugh so hard!!!
yeah if you do pull-ups while hanging your grip gets better, 100 each to level up, it sounds like a lot but with a bit of effort, you can get through them quick enough.
also with the cipher, 1 shot to the cam or 3 to the body
Nothing gets past Welonz when it comes to story. I'm loving this MGS2 playthrough and can't wait 'til it hits the more juicy parts.
Yessss! New MGS video right at the start of lunch break
Gotta say I'm loving the police squad energy. I think it really suits Raiden as a character.
I never heard the dialogue about colonel saying that original solid snake had fans that copied his weapons
Welonz: *makes Raiden backflip into claymores*
also Welonz: Raiden please stop backflipping into claymores
Raiden: god let's just get to MGS4 already
"You watched it over and over?!"
Wouldn't put it past Raiden.
great episode, it's only gonna get better from now on, can hardly wait!
you can get that item in strut f by crawling in the vent in the room the node is in. its the socom suppressor and is very good. also every time you get a new keycard return to f as it contains new equipment and check all the doors. similar to the armory in mgs1
22:32 Take a closer look at what the box says. It's not bullets. And there was a way to get to there from where you were.
Awesome timing. I need some story driven MGS and afterwork.
You can crawl over the claymore's cone, I think it's only in MGSV that you can't.
in MGS3 you can't as well
The beeping, at the mines was you bleeding. you kan stop it by using a bandage, or lie down and wait.
and when you stand against the wall, I think you can use R1 and L1 or it's R2 and L2 to walk along the wall, remember you still have to stick to the wall with the joystick.
the cardboard boxes can be used for fast travel from the logistics center to the place indicated on the box. use the box and go up on the transport bond
Come on Fortune, you have a guy with a hot accent calling you Queen. Things could be worse.
He also cut himself and sucks people's blood. Things could be better.
He's also your dad's boyfriend... Sooo, yeah 😅
You can level up your grip by doing pull-ups while hanging if you like.
35:52 was that a pun
the connecting bridge you still need to use collapsing got to be the most annoying thing in MGS2
yeah but it's honestly easier said than done, you need to back flip first and it has to be just right.
@@deathtoraiden2080 Oh that I never tried, I will remember next time I play 2
I remember what I tried doing was use Raiden's backflip to jump over every 2nd panel while running so half would be left for doing it again on the way back. What suprised me it actually worked on 1st try and I got a great laugh out of it. lv 1 hanging also gives you enough time to get to that last stable gap and push against railing works as well. I wouldn't call it most annoying I think it's a pretty fun suprise.
I want to see Oscar Isaac eat multiple wholeass rations in the movie. Also, rub against walls and floors weirdly. Like a proper video game adaptation.
I'm kinda joking.
But i'm also kinda serious.
oh yeah, there was a movie adaptation announced, wasn't there? I completely forgot since I heard absolutely nothing abot it since, let me check... since July 2018.
Do I assume correct you are sitting way too close in front of a way too large PC-monitor? That's probably why you keep missing things at the corner of your screen like your radar or your health going down. The "peeping" was your health. You were bleeding.
Mind you, this is a videogame developed for a TV-screen. You are supposed to have the entire screen within your view cone.
I read this in Colonel's voice, calling you through codec to let you know not to sit too close to the monitor and also take breaks
4:33 - Ah, Kojima ... even the Game Over screens aren't safe from your innovations! MGS4 does something in a similar (although even more unusual) vein, so I hope the Legacy Collection eventually gives more people a chance to discover it.
1:04:41 - No, she's got the right guy; I'm pretty sure that the one guard Raiden killed earlier was her dad.
*hidden codec message spoiler ahead*
Commandant from the Marine Corp ship 2 years ago was Fortune's father and also Vamp's lover. There's a lot of interesting codecs, especially about Vamp, Fortune and Stillman and I wish they were easier to get without spamming everyone 20 times per strut during bomb disposal.
Welonz calls codec for a tip
Codec person starts talking about something unrelated
Welonz: NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Me gusto mucho, gracias por compartir
That beeping was blood leaking. Raiden was loosing blood.
"That doesn't sound like a coincidence."
:)
Welonz, you can beat up the locked lockers to check if there's supplies in them.
Stillman: "Raiden, Mc-fake -name, listen up.Fatman's got my number. I triggered the remote activation on this bomb, and now it looks like I'm going to die. In retrospect, licking the bomb probably wasn't the best idea I've ever had.
Pliskin(Mc-fake-name): "PETE GET OUT OF THERE!!"
Stillman: "No."
*long pause*
💥💥AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
42:13 TH-camrs when Welonz doesn’t reply to their comments instantly.
Hi, one more time
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Just popping in here on the latest vid to ask a question. Has welonz played JULIA Among the Stars? Its a story heavy game and fairly old. Seems it might fit within her favored genre.
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The "coincidences" are just in your head Welonz. :) Kojima just isn't that original. That's it. Lazy old Kojima.