BATTLETECH: The Orion
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- With the #Orion being completed, this channel has completed our review of the #Battlemechs from #3025 / #TRO3025. What an incredible journey we've been on, and what an incredible #Mech to finish this with. I mean c'mon, it's #Kerensky 's very own Mech! The pride of the #SLDF!
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No wonder Stephan Amaris surrendered when he saw this thing walking towards his courtyard.
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While often called the "Poor Man's Atlas", I think the inverse is a more accurate statement. Recall the Atlas was designed to General Kerensky's specifications; recall that General Kerensky drives an Orion. The fearsome Atlas, the 100-ton wall of death, is really just a bigger, meaner Orion.
Yep.
So we should be calling the Atlas "The Rich Man's Orion"? I like it. I'll be sure to do so. 👍
Furthermore, the Orion is 3/4 the death for 2/3 the price, and 1.5 times the strategic movement speed, which is good strategic math all around.
@@jdmmike7225 So a Lyranised Orion. Except competently designed. 🙂
Dont you mean the successor to the Orion. The Atlas basically takes all the stuff that made the Orion good and makes it even better
It's also important to highlight that the Orion is one of the easiest 'mechs to work on, and that technicians find it spacious and simple to access. A 'mech spending less time in a repair bay is a 'mech spending more time pounding opponents into the ground.
Rugged and Reliable. :)
The Orion has that wonderful "Junkyard" look to it, like it was put together out of old boxes and tubes. That was especially the case when I first saw it in Mechwarrior 3. I remember reading the game's booklet as a kid, talking about how old the mech is. I always thought it stood out as an old reliable piece of technology from a bygone age.
The Orion is an example of when trying to make something like a multi role fighter actually went right. Jack of all trades, but master of armor. Having all that armor without having to sacrificing speed and having a decent weapons package is what allowed it to be able to actually be a real jack of all trades without the drawbacks.
Agreed, a swiss army knife can do a lot of things, but it doesn't accel at any one task, it's perfect for when you only have to use that tool for a small task, but if you need to cut a lot of something, you get a proper knife. This is why a lot of general purpose mechs feel lackluster to pilot in the video games compared to mechs dedicated to that role. A lot of mechs can do it all, few can do it well.
An Orion is always dependable. It's like the M1A1 Abrams. Punches hard, easy to modify, produced over a long span. I always respect facing one in combat, I always am happy to get one myself.
What's craziest to me about the Abrams is they actually haven't built a brand new chassis in years. They just strip and upgrade one of the 10,500ish they've already built. That's why I find the deal we did with Poland to sell them the new M1A2 SEP V3's interesting because are they gonna give them our existing M1A2 or restart production?
More like the sherman. Good for its time, and never punched as hard as its adversaries without modification but is completely outdated by now.
@@jdmmike7225 The Chrysler plant in Lima is making spares and doing repairs, but they haven't gotten new orders yet. The plant will manufacture the new light tank design.
I respect the orion. And it's center torso/head hotbox. Every time I shoot it down
@@CRAZYUNCLE117 I would argue that the 76 was just as hard punching as any other medium. It would be unfair to compare the firepower of the Sherman to something like the Tiger II, much like it wouldn't be fair to compare the firepower of the Orion to the Atlas.
At it's introduction the M4 with the 75 was probably the best medium on the field.
A poor man's Atlas is still a giant among giants. That said the only main critique I have of this thing is that it's much less imposing on the board
It's the Cadillac that Kerensky took as his pimp ride through the periphery.
Not as flashy as the PPC carriers like the Warhammer and Marauder. The Orion is a solid dependable Heavy. Only flaw is that ammo heavy SRM. This paired with the Thunderbolt is a fearsome duo.
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Should get the Ubiquitous design quirk!
Also keep in mind that while Theodore Kurita was given a Grand Dragon by his father for propaganda reasons. He piloted and Orion.
And it wasn’t just any Orion. It was actually the very same one that Kerensky piloted.
@@TheSlamburger really? I would have thought that the Exidus fleets would have taken it with them...
Also you'd think that "piloting the same 'Mech that Karensky himself used to kick in Amaris's door" would also be its own hefty piece of propaganda.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC Kerensky symbolically left it behind, iirc. probably meant it as a way to show that war was behind them.
of course his sons didn't quite get the memo.
@@RipOffProductionsLLCThey couldn't make much of it; Teddy K spent his Orion years in a penal regiment
Ah the ancient one, beware the old one in a profession that perish young. This machine represents it for mechs, an old design, a tough design, the opposite of a glass cannon. You don't want to focus it yet it has decent weapons, on all ranges so you can't really ignore it either.
There is no ignoring the Orion once he turns those guns onto you. :)
It's basically the centurion on steraroids; same AC, Same lasers, but with a bigger LRM, An SRM 4 and a buttload more armor.
Also fun fact: Kerensky's personal ride didn't leave with him during the exodus. It would instead be forgotten about in some decrepit stockpile until the 3020's when it would be found by the Order of Five Pillars and presented to a young Theodore Kurita to afford him a proper mount for his first command.
The middle bro between century and atty
What a terrible fate for such an iconic machine...
@@brianhenry152 There is something actually noble about it's destruction; Theodore had been given command of the Legion of Vega (effectively the dumping ground for the DCMS) by his father in an effort to shame him into compliance.
Theodore however, took it as an opportunity to prove his worth and vindicate his vision of a new military for the Combine, honing those troops to be the very best they could be.
When the 4th succession war broke out the legion found itself facing off the Skye Rangers, troops who were better equipped (and better trained then most Lyrans) and those troops came looking to kill or capture the heir to the dragon but Theodore (who very much wanted to stand and fight against the hard odds arrayed against him) found his men unwilling to let that happen and spirited him away on a dropship that had been stashed nearby.
When the Rangers rushed in to fight the Orion they found it piloted by one of the first soldiers that had questioned Theodore on his arrival, laughing at the overwhelming forces that had come against him because even though he would die he knew his commander would live.
The losses and the defeats that the Combine experienced in the 4th succession war would light a fire in Theodore's heart and inspire him to ensure that the Combine would never give an inch to the emergent Federated commonwealth, and if it hadn't been for one old battlemech he likely would have failed in doing so.
@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 LOL. House Kurita were the silent lap dogs of the Usurper. From their illegal annexation of former Hegemony worlds liberated by the SLDF to the fact that they were the last of the Great Houses to offer any viable assistance to General Kerensky, Kurita proved time and again they were not to be trusted. Once Kerensky had left, Kurita continued Amaris' legacy by illegally claiming right of First Lord (as if anyone with an ounce of integrity would support them), thereby kicking off the Succession Wars in which their bloodthirsty conduct would claim the lives of countless innocent and defenseless civilians on Eblar and Kentares IV. Their duplicitous nature would extend towards not only their neighbors, but to numerous mercenary units as well.
The fact that Kurita acquired such a noble symbol of the SLDF is a slap in the face of the greatest hero the setting ever had. It saddens me greatly that Kerensky's heirs did not burn the Combine to cinders. They would have been doing the Inner Sphere at large a service.
@@brianhenry152
1. House Kurita didn't have a choice; Stefan amaris had the heir to the throne kidnapped and threatened to kill him if they didn't get aid.
2. The hegemony was dead by the end of the Amaris conflict and those worlds were better off in the hands of the great houses then a destitute non-state.
3.Literally everyone was making the claim to first lord.
4. Yes I keep forgetting how much more noble the rest of the Inner sphere is; Money grubbing lyrans more concerned with breeding then ability, Cappellans with their outright slave caste, Free worlds league that is occasionally able to function as a state, and oh so racist suns.
The Orion being Kerensky's chosen battlemech should be a big flag for other commanders wanting to pilot something fancy or more popular.
Or maybe it's because the Gunslinger program made its pilots specialise in a single mech model to enhance their dueling skill? Kerensky who happened to be a graduate of it?
@@PeachDragon_ The Gunslingers chose their own mech to specialise in. Kerensky's was the Orion. The program was made to create duelist that wouldn't embarrass the SLDF against samurai. So they stick to whatever mech works best for them and master it.
I'm a simple woman. I see a 'Mech with a Vlar 300 engine, I smash that like button.
The ON1-K is the Kalashnikov of heavies: old, rugged, huge production runs, you can do better but it's still serviceable, famously associated with some Russian guy
Good armor, good weapons, and enough ammo to guarantee a spectacular explosion once you punch through either torso.
Nothing better than knowing the guns aren't gonna go silent cuz you ran out of bullets (within reason)
Battlemech Orion the Old Reliable of the SLDF and the Innersphere, also known as the Gate Kicker.
Ah, the ol’ rocketshoulder. Lovely mech. As stated elsewhere in the comments, it’s like a big, angry centurion - that’s why I like it so much.
Far away? Eat missiles. Getting close? Get cored. Can’t argue with quality craftsmanship like that.
12:05 Orion smashed the palace doors, the Atlas smashed the outer walls
This is one of the most consistently performing Mechs in the battle Tech universe
It's pretty much the personification of "Old Reliable" in BattleMech form.
Congrats on finishing TRO 3025! My favourite era of Battletech for sure.
On the subject of Orions can we talk about how there's just no size scale for medium lasers? An entire heavy mech's battle arm for one ML, versus a pokey little secondary barrel on Phoenix Hawk, or two holes on the front of a box on Jenners.
Yes, the first time I saw it, more years ago than I can even remember, I thought it would carry Large Laser or PPC... my surprise was that they were simply medium lasers, those that other models carry anywhere without being bulky. I guess the right thing to do would be to consider both arms as armed with maces or something like that.
The lasers differ based on model quite a bit. But yeah the orions mediums are huge for what they are. I just assume it’s due to the arms being built around them so punching is easier.
I need a night gyr and mist lynx video, please and thank you.
*Laser heat sinks go brrrrrrrr*
Oh man. Uhhh.
Next year is soon, right? lol
@@BigRed40TECH man do i wish time was as quick as your response...
So then...... fafnir?
@@xxgoodboy1499 Even later.
I'm covering them in the order of TRO, for the most part. :\
So clan Aerospace use laser sinks? Full efficiency in Vacuum seems worth looking like a discom
@@BigRed40TECH don't worry, just kidding. You do it at your own pace. Some things are just worth waiting for :)
Whether it's MechWarrior 3, 5, or HBS battle tech...I always come back to the Orion. It's definitely my favorite
The problem at MW5 is how huge the head hitbox is, most of them die without having received extensive enough damage to justify their use. A pity.
The Orion is my favorite heavy mech in Battletech. It's tough, low heat, easy to upgrade, and can serve in almost any role. The 1M generated many variants, ranging from light gauss toting slugthrowers to Artemis equipped LRM-20s and 6 racks, and much more. Anyone looking for a roomy unit to modify will love the Orion
The definitive Orion variant, other then Kerensky's version, in my opinion is the 2M. Created in 3063, it carries a Gauss Rifle, an LRM-15 with Artemis, 3 Medium Pulse Lasers, Endo Steel, 12.5 tons of Ferro-Fibrous armor, with 2 tons of LRM and Gauss ammo. It only carries CASE in the left torso, but the Gauss exploding isn't an insta kill for the mech, so I get why they CASED the LRM ammo instead. For 1828 BV, you have an absolutely nasty brawler capable of taking on anything in its weight class, and it's easy to repair and manufacture. Marauders may look pretty, but Orions win wars. It's one of the few reasons why the purple bird still flies over Atreus to this day.
Purple bird together strong 💪
The nickname "Poor Man's Atlas" is, despite it's somewhat let-down of a nickname, an absolute monster to meet when you start feeling good in HBS-BT. Hell, even when you get into the Assaultmechs, an Orion is still nothing to scoff at. It can clap back fairly heavily for it's weightclass, after all.
Words on the series: Love it, but then again, I'm an absolute geek for BT in general. Looking forward to seeing what other goodies you have in the bag.
This is a solid mech to end the original TRO series on. I look forward to the reviews of the mechs to come!
Yay my favorite mech, I love Orion so much the look, the oportunities of modifying it are endless. My personal favorite is the VA that I modified, Endo steel, 2 PPCs, 2 SRM 6s, LB-10X and a light engine. For poor man's Atlas it performs wonderfully.
Always liked the look of the Orion and the hard hitting weapons at every range.
I've said it before and I will say it again. If it's good enough for General Alexandr Kerensky, it's good enough for me!
I remember running an all energy jump jet equipped Orion in Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries. Ahh the good old days where we could make a Mech whatever we wanted in the PC games as long as it was within the weight limit.
I have always had a love of the Orion 🥰🥰🥰
@8:39: "Oops not in range" 🙃 - "Crap that was a little low" 🤔 - "My bad guys wrong missile type" 😆 - "There we go" 😏
Great series man. Been loving all the Mech reviews and I’ve learned a lot.
Just an great mech that typically is seen as inferior to the more popular dual PPC mechs. Gotta love this brick of a mech. Would love to see a really smart version with Endo, DHS, and a standard engine.
Yeah, the Orion. Loved the fluff behind this thing. Was fun enough on the tabletop too. Like the the Zeus, Atlas, and Stalker, these mean walls of armor made me appreciate multi-weapon platforms, rather than my first and truest love: mechs based around a single weapon (Panther, Hollander, Fafnir, etc).
My favorite heavy battlemech, love its asymmetrical design
The age of the Orion shows in its aesthetic but not its design.
The effectiveness of a tool or a weapon can often be determined by how long it is used and in regards to the Orion it is quite effective.
A great all rounder. Nasty at almost any range. Survivability is a trait that can't be overlooked. Many a battle had Orions and Thunderbolts playing to the end.
Absolutely as you described it, one of the toughest nuts to crack in this universe! To give you feedback on the series, I have enjoyed these short format descriptions of all of the battlemechs, and I'm looking forward to more. Thanks for putting your time into this!
Thanks Matt!
@@BigRed40TECH o7 sir!
The epitome of ammo explosions, what with packing AC and both flavour of missile ammo, and still an indispensable engine of destruction. I always preferred the arm-mounted SRM over the torso-mount we get in some of the art. Thanks for covering this beast of burden, often carrying the rest of its lance.
If your ammo mag gets hit, at least the nearby troops get a fireworks display.
I also like the design of VA variant with missile racks in arm pods a lot more then the base model design. It kinda makes those pod things look like they are actually used for some purpose.
TRO 3025 remains my favorite one with the Thunderbolt, Warhammer, Marauder, Grasshopper, and the Orion being my personal favorites Thanks for covering it and them!
I wouldn't mind seeing you move to TRO- 2750, or perhaps hear your comments on vehicles.
Love this series, the Orion was the favorite mech of my dad ...so good memories playing with my old man. Lovely video and cant wait to see more of your work !
One of my very favorite Battlemechs. Glad you reviewed it. I find the Orion dependable and deadly. It punches well above its weight and has a generous and varied complement of arms.
It is my personnel favorite. Lumpy, asymmetrical and 700 years old. Id choose an Orion over quite a few assault mech.... and win most of the times
The Orion has a good weapons package. It was the first heavy I used when I learned to play Battletech in college.
In your opinion, which is the heart and soul weapon of the Orion?
The Orion will fit in within any medium/heavy or heavy/Assault lance.
The Orion was also the preferred ride of two famous Draconis Combine pilots:
1. Akira Brahe (Kurita). Distant cousin to Theodore Kurita and a battalion commander in the Kell Hounds.
2. Theodore Kurita, best Coordinator of House Kurita. According to canon, a cousin of Theodore’s found an Orion in a SLDF depot that was found and verified to belonged to Alexander Kerensky when the SLDF fled Inner Sphere. He won many battles in this machine.
The Omni Orion: the Perseus.
Keep cranking out the good videos!
Had a great run of missions in the hero Orion in MW5:Mercenaries. Wonderful machine
The thumbnail is way cooler than the current video game model
Orion is the mech I always think of when I hear work-horse of the sphere, much like a work horse, it doesn`t look like much, but it does its job, and it does it well.
The ON1-K Orion is a great heavy 'Mech. It's perfectly capable as fire support, direct assault and a flak battery. My only complaints are its ammo dependency and lack of heat sinks and hand actuators, both limit its close assault ability.
Oh my god hearing the MW4 music in the background was such a good choice, I got chills 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Didn't use the Orion often but liked its punch...
I actually have a fondness for the V as my personal variant of choice to kit out and turn into the KING OF BRAWLERS
The Orion is one of the finest trooper mechs in the setting. It is a heavy hitter at multiple ranges, and can be either support for a heavier formation, or the sledgehammer itself in a lighter one. It doesn't bother with frills, it's just a heavy hitter.
The Orion, one of the few mechs that gives me pause when facing it in Battletech 2018 and MW 5. Yet I rarely field it myself. It is one of the few mechs that can shrug off hits from my Marauder's heavy rifle in MW 5 so I have to respect it's durability but I got to dock points off for only having the stock ten heatsinks.
I agree. I don't think twice engaging most heavy's & assault's in my BL-6B-KNT but the Orion as well as the Warhammer always give me alil pause in MW5.
tbh, idk what's the difference between the ACs and the Rifles.
@@dj11o9er Rifles hit extremely hard for there tonnage and size but generate a lot of heat and take a long time to reload. A heavy rifle hits as hard (Or harder some times) as a AC 20 but weighs less than an AC 10 and takes the same size slot as an AC 10. Rifles also have the opposite range curve between sizes compared to ACs. The heavy rifle has more range than the light or medium rifle.
@@elchjol2777 I also find the Rifles to be one of the best weapons at removing armor plating. Much better than AC's.
The ON1-V is my personal favorite and is what got me to like the Orion, change the LRM 15 to an SRM 4 and max the armor and upgrade the heat sinking ability and it makes for a formidable brawler. I had always ignored the Orion in MW5 because by the time I got one I already had larger assault mechs with more weapons and armor, but the modified ON1-V changed my mind.
Your version of the V sounds more like a VA tbh.
Swiss knife of mechs, love it
Hell yeah. My favorite mech.
This mech put the fear of GOD in me Playing Mechwarrior 3.
Please keep up the great work!
More to come!
I don't know why but the Orion reminds me of the Russian jaguar from pasfic rim
Given who pilots it, well, that might be fitting. lol
Orion is favorite mech besides ShadowCat. There was lore about the Orion's AC-10 always jamming before the last round was fired. Forgot where I read it.
The big missile shoulder with the arm just dangling off it makes zero engineering sense. . . but damn if it isn't an iconic and awesome-looking design.
Much as I enjoy Tex Talks BattleTech, these smaller, quicker videos, laser focused on the 'Mech itself and what makes it work (or not), are in their way much better. Aside from having a much greater variety of content and information to help those new to BattleTech get a handle on what 'Mechs do what and how, it's nice for veterans to hear different perspectives and re-evaluate machines that may not seem great at first glance, but in the right role or circumstance can shine. Loved the series so far, and looking forward to watching many more!
I enjoyed this series a lot! Thanks so much for it! I'm looking forward to the next set of 'mechs from a little later down the timeline.
I like the Orion almost as much as I like the Marauder and that's a lot.
Ah the dependable Orion. My 2nd fav Heavy mech.
Tough, decent firepower, and reliable. It has enough arsenal to get you through the day, and enough armor to get you pass the fiercest barrage.
I always enjoyed the luxury of an Orion when it first came to my hanger. The ON1-M series in particular with its deadly autocannon.
The Warhammer will always be my fav in this weight category, but no pilot can ever go wrong with an Orion.
I mean come on. This unit has Kerensky's personal seal of approval. You can't get a better ringing endorsement than that.
"Any weapon is unremarkable unless it is wielded by a legend"- Tex
This series has been a blast to watch, and very informative as well! I consider myself a very light Battletech fan. This being primarily because I've never gotten to play the tabletop game nor have I had much experience with it beyond MWO, MW5, and the Mechassault games (Namely MA1). That said, it's always been a universe that's fascinated me and I love being able to delve a bit deeper into the details behind it, usually through videos like this.
As for where the series should go, I don't think I'm the right person to give an answer, as I don't know all the lengths to which it could go. I do know that the coverage of the 'mechs, vehicles and weapon systems especially interest me, although I suspect that's due more to my previously mentioned experience being limited toward those things specifically. I will just say that you've consistently captured my attention with these, and I'm very much excited for whatever comes next!
My introduction to the Orion was baby me watching my dad play Mechwarrior 3 in some underground mission I think it was. He kept trying to get to some elevator and the Orion kept clapping his cheeks over and over again lol.
In MWO, HBS BT and MW5, it always makes me hate how much those giant arms on the thing are only medium lasers.
Great overview of another beast :-) tough packs a punch and looks great :-) a nice heavy to have in any merc company :-)
It really is!
Orion is a fine main BattleMech, but heavily ammo dependent. For that reason I consider more laser heavy Thunderbolt a better 'Mech.
I really like your videos, hope you keep making them!
That's the plan! Thank you :)
A great mech, and certainly one of my favorites. I really like the layout of the weapons. Thanks for the video.
Kerensky's Chariot!
Great series
To paraphrase Professor Tex, It's a box on legs that's crammed full of weapons; and because it's a big box sometimes other weapons get crammed in there.
THE ONION!!!! The Orion M is one of my favorites.
There are like, 4 of those though. :P
@@BigRed40TECH Theres more than one ON1-M? Enlighten me Bear!!!
@@jdmmike7225 The 3M is in this video! lol
@@BigRed40TECH Ahh, shoulda finished it before commenting & specified which one I meant. My bad 😔.
@@jdmmike7225 No worries, lol.
The Orion is a solid heavy workhorse of a mech. Not quite as versatile as the Thunderbolt but a bit more durable.
Unfortunately the low number of heat sinks and the large ammo load undermines it´s otherwise good defenses.
The issue with only 10 heat sinks is that the mech always operates on the edge of overheating.
If anything goes wrong, e.g. a lucky engine hit or a hit by a heat inflicting weapon, things can go south for this mech very quickly.
Once the Orion builds up heat it is very hard to cool down again.
While an overheated P-Hawk still can jump away, an overheated Orion cannot.
Since this issue is well known, experienced players will try to take out the Orion through the heat scale rather than chewing through the massive armor.
I forgot I had one of these in my Mechbay on MWO, started to finally use it. 75 Tons of fun.
such a fun mech to play - I was recommended it by the person who introduced me to battletech, and it was good advice!
This was my favourite mech when I started getting into BT I really liked the look of it and it's name. It what really got me interested :)
This is the standard for heavy mechs. This is the template heavy mech. Speed is average at 4/6. Firepower is significant at long range, going to ... overheating if the pilot isn't conservative. Some people would say the AC10 shouldn't be used in short range engagements. Why? You'd rather do less damage when the opponent gets close? For the same heat? You hammer the AC10 and the 2 medium lasers until you get a breach then you drop one weapon to pick up the SRM4 to help you find that gap more often. Or you accept some heat gain for added firepower. The problem with that is losing heat isn't fast with only the base 10 heat sinks to work with. Sure this mech has heat efficient weapons, but it takes more restraint to cool this mech once it gets hot.
It also has 3 different ammo based systems. The Orion not only can't afford to run too hot to avoid ammo explosions. It also has an endurance problem. 20 rounds may sound like a lot, but the truth is you need to fire the AC10 every opportunity you get to. You can't afford not to use it. That 20 ammo might hold you through a fight, or it might not. For the same weight as the AC10 and its 2 tons of ammo, you could have a PPC and 7 heat sinks. Same damage, PPC has better range and with 7 heat sinks the same heat load. It also introduces a minimum range, but in that minimum range you can afford to use both medium lasers and the SRM without worrying about heat.
I don't think the Orion is a particularly good heavy mech. I don't think its particularly bad either. I think it is the bar where you measure other mechs in its class. The Orion is a difficult bar to measure up to. A lot of mechs don't.
I don't look at it from the perspective of if its a good mech in the sense of, could I customize something to be better, sure I could. I think it's a good mech because it can fight a WHM, or a MAD during its time, and reasonably come out on top, despite them having PPC's. :)
@@BigRed40TECH When I call something a bar to be measured by, I'm not saying to judge variants of the same mech. I'm saying measure other heavy and assault mechs against the base Orion.
TRO 3025: Golden Age of BT. But my personal fav era is Fedcom Civil War.
I remember putting rotary gauss on Orion in BTAdvanced. Freakin' scary build it was.
Ok ngl, I love this mech. This mech makes me coom. I'm a coomer for this mech and no I will not apologize.
I just realized the Orion. was a updated Mackie design
I always look forward to your battletech equipment videos, I appreciate the little break from reality.
Awesome to hear :D
As much as I like Fasa designs for sentimental reasons, it’s CGL that does it way better while keeping the spirit of an original
If asked if I would take an Marauder, Warhammer or Orion to the field. I think I would go with the Orion. Sure the Marauder is my favorite looking mech and the Warhammer is also cool, I think the Orion outperformes them both.
Warhammer > Orion > Marauder for me, but all 3 are great. It'd depend on the lance overall though.
The Orion for me has always been in my head simply 'OLD FAITHFUL'
The Orion could be a very nice Mech, but the LRM as the shoulderjoint is a fatal flaw.
Really been enjoying these videos, please keep them up. The clan wolverine was also very very good
That one took a LONG time to finish.
Glad you're enjoying them. :)
The Orion is usually eclipsed by mechs like the Marauder and the Warhammer. It's not the easiest mech to pilot, especially at short range the temptation to run hot is great and can cause some problems for those who think they can hammer away at enemy mechs very quickly by running a huge heat tab they may not be able to pay. But it's quite a beast that can go toe to toe with anything short of the biggest, most powerful Assault mechs.
It comes with two main weapons a good short range package and pretty solid armour. It's not invincible and it can run hot if not careful, but if you are on a budget and can't afford that Battlemaster or Stalker, you may want to consider an Orion.
1v1 the Orion I think comes out on top over the MAD, if we're talking baseline configs in the books. But that's just my humble opinion of course, lol.
@@BigRed40TECH The Marauder has one advantage, it can do some serious damage at range whereas the Orion has a window of 7-15 hexes for best effect. Heat management on the Warhammer consists of twin PPCs and AC alternated with one PPC and AC for maximum effect, but losing one MP every other turn. The Orion has a solid three ton armour advantage which on average means the Marauder will start to suffer sooner. At closer ranges the Orion still has a big useful punch, but must use its heat burden wisely and for maximum effect you need to rush the Marauder and stay inside the 3 hex minimum range.
Both are vulnerable in the side torso. Marauder has thinner armour and ammo in the LT. The Orion has lots of ammo in both and has thicker armour. If we assume some good rolls, a Marauder needs three PPC shots to open up the ammo, but has no crit seekers. The Orion needs a good LRM and AC/10 shot to breach the Marauder and has a crit seeker.
Marauder can win at range, but it's a tricky game, Orion can just close in and hammer away and hope it can expose the ammo or knock out a laser when up close.
Personally I'd get a Grasshopper or an Awesome against an Orion.
It took me a while to circle around to some of the more recognizable icons in the setting.
I originally discovered your channel because of curiosity on the Hatchetman and Axman. Ax wasn't covered yet.
Glad I stuck around, and am enjoying all the things.
Thanks again, BR40ak
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Cool nice mech.
I very much enjoy this series,well presented !
The Orion is the standard by which all other 3025 heavies are compared to.
Hussar being a ferrari with HIMARS on the roof for scouting, Enforcer acting like a medium tank, holding the line for engsgements, Banshee and Atlas as heavy command mech, Trebuchets and Catapults as designated artillery platforms and Orion as a front breakthrough machine, laughing in face of damage while pushing during assaults.
Some could say those machines are just basic translations of machines pre-MBT warfare and sure, this is true, but God, they're fucking awesome at their jobs.
I found the Legendary Orion in MW5 that’s based on Keresnky’s Mech. My favorite thing to pilot.
Love this series, which seems to get better with each drop.
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You do good work lets hear about the tanks.!
Not *soon*, but one day they will get covered.
stripped down to minimal armor it was, fun to fit as many as possible weapon hard points to make it a running weapons platform.