What I’ve always liked about Paul is, that instead of the old trope of a “hero” trying to find his potential, he already knows his potential and he is terrified of it and his choices.
This should be the standard for hiring directors or showrunners: they need to be fans of the source material ie Feige for Marvel & Favreau/Feloni for Star Wars
I really enjoyed the SyFy movies, Children of Dune in particular. And the one they made in the eighties was laughably bad, but it had some great imagery and definitely qualifies as “so bad it’s good.”
As someone who first discovered sci-fi with this book series I agree, if anything I think Josh Brolin's, Javier Bardem's and Stellan Skarsgård's performances improve on the source material.
I’m going through the books after watching this film for the first time and it’s absolutely amazing to read. I was quite surprised how much was translated into the film through expression to make up for the lack of internal monologue. Really good stuff.
One thing that a lot of people miss out on if they haven't read the books is that Paul's spice visions aren't just of the future, but possible futures as well (basically the trick that the guild navigators use to find the safe paths through space). Around the time they were flying into the sandstorm he has a vision of Jamis as his friend, teaching him about life and living in the desert. Something that happened closed that path, and at their first meeting they wound up fighting to the death instead. The visions also seem like they can be metaphor as well as straight up "this is what could happen". Just think about how confusing and messed up that would be to experience.
@@beetlebob4675 Exactly, This is the feeling I got from the scene that in a way Jamis did teach him the ways of the desert one of the most important just not the way Paul seen it but the vision was still correct in a way and it showed Paul that Jamis who he had never met wasn't just a killer or enemy but could have been a friend and he felt it in the vision.
Members of the Bene Gesserit can have conscious control over every function of the body. In one of the books, a Sister explains it with, "Can you move your small toe independently of any other muscle?" So yeah, they can control the hormones introduced to the fetus during gestation to control the sex characteristics development.
Yeah, also in the scene where Paul avoids getting assassinated it was because of his Bene Gesserit training. Just standing still wasn't enough to fool the device, I don't remember what exactly it was drawn to, but a regular person wouldn't be able to escape it once in the same room.
Timothee Chalamet is just insanely talented. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't win an Oscar in the next few years. They couldn't have found a better person for Paul Atreides.
If he goes the Leo route then that probably won't happen for another 20 years lmao. But I became a fan of Timothee back when he was in this indie film called Miss Stevens. He did a monologue from Arthur Miller's play Death of a Salesman and I agree, he really does deserve an Oscar one day. They don't really like giving those to young handsome men though which is unfortunate.
Spice harvesting/worm scene line by Paul, "I recognized your footsteps old man." Double meaning, Gurney from shield training and Shai Hulud, 'Old Man of the Desert'.
In the fight with Jamis, it wasn’t just that Paul had never killed a man. His style was practised against people wearing shields, which you can’t use in the desert without attracting a worm. He had to adapt to a completely new fighting style without shields. The spectators thought he was toying with Jamis.
The important thing about that scene was the "voice" he was hearing. That scene was about the idea that Paul Atreides must die for the Kwisatz Haderach to rise. Paul deciding to kill a man for the first time was the end of the child lord Paul, and Paul realizing himself as possibly becoming the Kwisatz Haderach. For the Fremmen he fulfilled the first part of the prophecy of Paul being Maud'Dib, the Fremmen messiah.
He was also struggling with decision of letting himself be killed to prevent the apocalyptic jihad across cosmos in retaliation for what happened to his family. He did not want to be that guy, which is why he screamed at his mother in earlier scene.
Just watched Chernobyl, and had to rewatch. He plays such a pivotal role, and so well. He’s a gem, and as the Baron? Uuuugghhh, skin-crawlingly good, so creepy.
23:30 Important details to reflect upon: - 35 Sardaukar float/dropped in (yes, I actually paused and counted; I am occasionally *that* guy). - Duncan single-handedly fought 16 Sardaukar, killing *13* of them, and 3 of those were *after* he’d pulled one of their swords out of his own chest to keep fighting. - Depending on whether the 3 who died with Kynes are the same 3 survivors of the 16 who fought Duncan, the Fremen sand ambush killed 16-19 Sardaukar. 35 of the most feared soldiers in the imperium. And a third of them were killed by just one man. Absolute badass!!!
Well one of the reasons the Emperor feared the Atreides was due to the fact that their soldiers had begun approaching the skill level of the Sardukhar.... and perhaps the feared myths of the Sardukhar might have made them into more of a boogeyman than they actually were.... still lethal and dangerous as HELL, but when you take an elite of the elite of the Atreides that dun fear the Sardukhar.... then it makes sense he performs extremely well.
Yeah, that also means that like 5 or 6 Fremen killed like 3 Sardukar each. Emperor is fucked lol I mean, I know that from reading the books, but for those unfamiliar, thanks your slick analysis, one could figure it out just based on that. Even if an army of Fremen are outnumbered by Sardukar 3 to 1, they'll still win.
@@SliderFury1 Isn't there also something about the fact that the Sardukhar also dun have an abundance of active combat experience, compared to like, the fremen who has a constant resistance warring against the Harkonnen for decades? And the reason Atreides soldiers were stronger a well were in part due to a more indepth training regimen that even took some use of the Sisterhood's combat skills or some such?
In the books, it is even more. It is mentioned in Children of Dune that Duncan killed 19 Sardaukar. The Sardaukar highly respected him for that, so much so that they sold his body to the Tleilaxu....but that is another story.
"You were told to only bear daugthers." Bene Gesserit learn such great control over their bodies that deciding to get pregnant AND choosing the sex is just a couple of the things they can do at will.
denis villeneuve just gets it. not a miss in his entire filmography and WB/Legendary should've backed Part 2 from the get go but at least they eventually got around to greenlighting it.
with WB loosing their golden goose (nolan), denis seems to be filling up that gap real quick. If he's given final cut privileges, we can see a lotta masterpieces in the years to come.
@@jenswurm When you are the Baron and you just spent 50 years worth of Spice earnings to vanquish your enemies, I think you earned the right to splurge on yourself a little 😁
What's really disgusting is spices so valuable, the Barons bathwater will be recycled and sold two members of the middle class,trillionaires by today's standards
The white haired man, Thufier Hawat is what is known as a Mentat. Genetically enhanced humans with hyper intelligence who able to make complex calculations in a moment. They are in place of any machine intelligence in this world. Didn’t see it mentioned yet. Loved the reaction.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps Special breeding is scientifically the same thing as genetical enhancement. Once you breed for particular traits what you are actually doing is gene selection. Basically every food (both plant and animal based) we eat today have been enhanced this way to be bigger, sweeter, more disease resistant etc. using normal farming practices.
@@pee-buddy That is sort of true but if the books don't outright say Mentats are bred to be Mentats or genetically altered we can't really call them genetically enhanced. Paul is trained and spoiler: so is a later Duncan Idaho clone but they don't come from straight Mentat bloodlines. If anything, that implies you just take someone that aces IQ tests, train them and supply them the juice.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps You need the inborn talents and the choice of going to the school for it. and it also requires a red liquid to drink that stains the lips red - the sign of a mentat. Not shown in the movie and I can understand why... it's not truly required to show when there's a ton of other things needed to involve plotwise.
This is a perfect example of one of those things where the nerd in me was annoyed that they didn't get into this at all, but the moviegoer in me knows this was the exact type of thing that's good to cut when you have to shove such a massive story/universe into a couple of 2½ hour movies.
Duncan Idaho is a Master Swordsman in the novels. Sword fighting reemerged because of shields. The SwordMasters of the planet Ginaz taught him and Duncan was considered their most gifted student. by far.
Dune, part 2 is scheduled for an October 2023 release, and Denis Villeneuve has stated that he wants to do another Dune movie after that one. After the first three movies, some other director may have to take over. There is also am HBO series coming out in 2022, called Dune the Sisterhood. This was Denis Villeneuve's idea, and he will be the producer for at least the first season, and will also direct the pilot episode. This series will be about the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood (that Jessica belongs to).
If Warner greenlights the next movies I don't want to be in the next director's boots. Imagine coming after Villeneuve and you have to adapt even harder/weirder story than 1st 2 books.
It's so cool to see others' reactions to different elements in the film. I myself felt an oddly reverential feeling toward the sandworms. It reminded me of Galadriel's line in Lord of the Rings; "All shall love me and despair". Like, they're clearly overwhelming and dangerous, but there is something about the way they are presented in the film that makes them as awe-inspiring as they are dreadful.
Shout out to the commenters that have read the books and provided much needed insight. This is my second time watching the film and your notes are super helpful. 🙏🏾
I read the book *years* ago -- watching this in a theatre, after 20 minutes, I couldn't believe how they had completely nailed the feel of the story. Amazing.
@@eXcommunicate1979 I saw this in both a regular theater and in IMAX. In the former I agree with you, in the latter is was much clearer. I like how she portrayed her character in those moments, like she is just not really wanting to deal with what's happening, even though she knows she has to, so her nervousness and denial combine to push her voice down very small, sort of the opposite of when she's using "the voice". Could have been fixed up with some post-production sound tweaking. Will be probably be clearer yet on a good soundbar/home theater system.
I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. I've wondered how non book fans would react to this, especially since this only tells half the story of the first book.If you're able to, this is a film that really begs to be seen in a big movie theatre with great sound.I saw it in IMAX and the sound design and sound track just blew me away.
The bene gesserit can control their own biology, so they can determine the sex of their offspring. Also the visions Paul is having are possible futures.
Couple of non-spoiler things that aren't really explained in the movie which I think are really cool. 1. There was an AI uprising in the distant past so "thinking machines" are outlawed, so no computers. To counter this they trained "Mentats", people to be human computers. Hawat is a Mentat and he's doing calculations when his eyes go white. 2. Everyone fights via hand-to-hand combat rather than guns because of the shields. The shields render projectiles useless as they move to fast and can't penetrate the shield. There were laser weapons but they aren't used because if a lasgun hit a shield it caused a nuclear explosion and killed everyone.
Yes, the Butlerian Jihad (thinking machine war) created a massive cultural shift. The Orange Catholic Bible states, "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."
@28:00, despite Rebecca Ferguson saying Denis Villaneuve modernized the depiction of Jessica, this is how Frank Herbert imagined her back in 1965. She is beautiful, loving, graceful but also deadly AF. All the sisters of the Bene Gesserit can secretly mop up the floor with most people.
@@Doctor_whom I can understand not liking it personally, it's nowhere near as good as Dune, or BR2049, but calling it a bad film, let alone one of the worst you've ever seen, is kind of ridiculous.
Ya, that was discouraging. Word of Dune was still spreading. We went to the very last imax screening in the Denver metro area, and the theater was 3/4 filled.
7:44 - The Lady Jessica is a Bene Gesserit adept. She can indeed control that, and every other part of her body with her absolute awareness. This is part of the prana-bindu (nerve & muscle) training that they undergo since they are little girls.
Star Wars was heavily influenced by this book so there are a lot of similarities. Foundation was really the first sci-fi with massive world building. Dune was next. Everything that follows can’t help but reference the first two.
First space opers universe with massive world building was created even earlier - The Star Kings of Edmond Hamilton in 1949 and the following books. It even had laser swords, for god sake, so Star Wars had a lot of predescesors, even if not mentione Akira Kurosawa 's Kakushi-toride no san-akunin / The Hidden Fortress, which was source of basically all main characters and plot in general for Star Wars. Yes, Star Wars is weaboo thing, deal with it ))
Ironically Frank Herbert may have been influenced by the Flash Gordon serials Flash used a sword ,Frank Herbert came up with the idea of Shields to make swords practical
@@alexmalyarchuk1723 Edmond Hamilton himself as well as others did create space operas with significant world building before Foundation, but The Star Kings is not one of them (publication of Foundation started in a magazine in 1942, that of The Star Kings in 1947), and none of the earlier works were as influential as Foundation.
@@Daneelro yes,but no. I was talking about "space opera" genre, which both Star Wars and The Star Kings definatelly are - and Star Kings was first (or one of the firsts). But Foundation - is more direct science fiction, than space opera.
@@alexmalyarchuk1723 You responded to a comment without the restriction to space opera, and you specifying that Space Kings was "even earlier" can only relate to Foundation. Maybe you should edit your comment for clarity.
Great to see yall watching Dune! This universe is set in our Humanity's distant future, after a Sky-Net style machine uprising that ravaged the galaxy. Humanity has since banned all AI and any advanced computer through which AI might emerge, and so specialized human beings have taken the place of these computers. Most crucial are those of the Spacing Guild, who use extremely high, physically transformative doses of spice to take the place of navigation computers, plotting otherwise incredibly dangerous FTL jumps through space.
Exactly by our standards many of these characters are almost super human. Faster than us. Stronger more durable than us. It wasn’t by will alone that Duncan got up and pulled a freaking sword out of his chest. Stuff that could kill us would just slow them down.
The Spacing Navigators in the ‘84 film made me go, “LOL WTF is that?!?” over and over while they plotted the hyperlight jumps. I put off seeing it in tape for decades so I barely knew anything about the story going into this present version.
@@kinagrill You are partly right. The date given is on the AG calendar not our current AD calendar. The calendar in the Dune series starts over 10,000 into the future. So Dune actually takes place over 20,000 years from now.
Watching this in an IMAX theater is almost a spiritual experience. By all means make the time to do it ASAP. The only bad thing about this film is the release during covid. Hopefully when part 2 comes out it will have enough of an audience to make it a proper franchise to make further movies.
Ive seen this 4 times, twice in IMAX, and with everything being amazing, the absolute *best* thing about it for me was the sound when they use the Voice. Like holy shit, my spine is vibrating 😬
@16:15, the way Gurney just took out those two guys and Duke Leto’s popularity are why the Emperor sided with the Harkonnens. The Emperor’s Sardaukar are supposed to be the deadliest commandos in the universe. They are also his attack dogs that he uses to keep other nobles in line. But with Duncan and Gurney training the troops of House Atreides they are practically a match for the Sardaukar. They became a threat to his authority that a jealous man like Emperor Shaddam couldn’t let slide. Had the Sardaukar not been a part of the attack, House Atreides wouldn’t have fell in one night. They would have been bloodied for sure but still standing in the morning.
Yes, Duke Leto's popularity in the Landsraad and the level of training of the Atreides' forces under Gurney Halleck and Duncan Idaho led the Emperor to back the Harkonnen takeover. The Sardaukar were so feared that the mere possibility of them being employed would quell uprisings. Yet, in a later book it is revealed that the Sardaukar kept Duncan's body and turned it over to the Tleilaxu because his genetic material was too valuable to waste. This was because in his combat with them, Duncan single-handedly killed 19 Sardaukar- something thought impossible.
Outstanding reactions by both of you! And Steven, huge props to you for figuring out the nature of Paul's spice-triggered prescient visions on the first watch. Most folks who haven't read the books don't understand the first time around. Indeed, Paul is seeing possible futures, and his decisions determine which ones come to pass. Just imagine the burden of having to make those decisions.
I'm so happy they were able to do the Ornithopters with a wing setup similar to what they describe in the books. Watching them in action it made me realize that their design makes sense for the desert. I can only imagine how fast a vehicle using a jet turbine would get shredded dealing with the sandy winds of Arrakis.
The 'Ornithopters' of Dune are 'bird-like', have flapping wings, and have jets as well. The dragonfly-like flyers seen in this film is more like an AH-64 Apache helicopter than what is described in the book.
I haven't read the books either, I probably should. My Mom loved both the books and the 1984 movie. Funny when I think back now, how much of a geek she was and it wasn't till my adult life, that I understood. Sadly she passed in 2013. I wish she could have seen this version. I think she'd have flipped. lol
David Lynch's version is a good introduction to Dune lore. It's like a summary of the first book, touching upon most of the franchise's unique features.
By the way, when they say the year is 10191? It's AG (After Guild). It's more like 21200 years into the future. House Atreides can trace their lineage back to Old Terra (Earth), to the ancient Greeks. The sign language Jessica and Paul use is Atreides Battle Language, something only their men and house would know, to stay covert and ensure the enemy doesn't intercept what they're saying. Thufir Hawat is a Mentat, a literal human computer. Any sort of AI or thinking machine is illegal in the Dune universe, and they were all destroyed during a religious crusade a long time before the story starts. All houses have Mentats to assist will tactics and calculations. Sand behaving like a fluid is a real phenomenon caused by intense vibrations or air being pumped into it, called liquefaction. This is common during strong earthquakes. The Baron is Skellen Skaasgard, another MCU face!
"Dune begins in 10,191 AG, so we simply add 10,191 to 11,000+201 together: 10,191 + 11,000 + 201 = 21,392 This gives us the number of years that have passed in-between 10,191 AG and the beginning of deep space exploration. The first interplanetary space probe was Pioneer 5 which was launched in 1960. If we start at 1960 A.D. and add 21,392 more years, we have 23,352 A.D. Thus, the year 10,191 AG corresponds to the year 23,352 A.D. That is, of course, assuming that the Dune chronology actually uses Earth years."
there is so much nuance that the book(s) can inform upon for this movie. It definitely stands on its own, but reading the book enriches the story so much. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse in the comments sections of videos about Dune (2021), but a super important point of the series to keep in mind is that Paul is NOT the hero. There is NO hero in this saga. Everyone is fallible.
i love the part when Duncan kills those 3 dudes and just goes TO HELL, DOGS !!!! to the other 3 and they're like "aight chief, u can take the ship, i'm not getting paid enough for this" :)))))
I was awed in cinema, I just didn't want it to end. I didn't read the books, but the author's imagination and the world they created, to the tiniest detail, is amazing. As you said, the music, colours, technology, all of it created such an amazing overall experience. Also, great colour scheme, Nikki - suits you very well! Another good reaction guys :)
So about the visions, they're as figurative as they are literal, when he sees himself dying it's because he needs to kill who he was by taking a life, at least that's my take on the interpretation. Also as to how many there could be, this is the first half of the first book, Frank Herbert wrote six and his kid wrote the seventh, but that one's garbage so we don't talk about it.
Herbert describes how Paul stops seeing all alternate possibilities when he is about to fight Jamis. Calls it a nexus point where the future of the whole universe rests on too many small variables to be predicted.
It also shows a POTENTENTIAL future event that his brain has calculated for. Hence why we see Jamis as a sort of mentor much of the movie, and when Paul finally meets him, Jamis is an obstacle rather than a mentor. Paul dun see the future as such, his mind can just calculate and interpret the potential of future events - after getting exposed to the Spice in it's raw form.
Loved the reaction and post-reaction review, one of the few reactioners I sit through to listen to your thoughts. I’m glad it had that effect, as a book reader and fan I feel the same way. The director has not made a bad film to date. This isn’t just for us fans and new fans, it’s for him as well. A love letter to cinema and literature.
The horrific part of Dune and Paul’s story is that his visions not only show things that will happen, but things that *MAY* happen. That’s why we see him being mentored by Jamis, but the future doesn’t actually ply out that way in the end, and he’s forced to kill him instead. This ‘potential future sight’ is massively dangerous.
I was so happy when I saw this reaction listed on your schedule, I enjoyed this movie so much but didn't even consider that you might react to it. I'm commenting before watching, but hoping that you enjoyed the film too. Keep up the great work, both of you. =)
The people behind this movie did an amazing job, from the execution, sound effects, music, visuals, acting, voice acting, and directing, all are really well done made.
The fight scene with Jamis in conjunction with his visions of Jamis is symbollic of something rooted in psychology: You cannot become an "Adult" fully until the "Child" dies. Killing Jamis fulfills the visions which Paul has. His meeting of Chani symbolizes the catalyst of that death.
This movie was incredible, and it barely covers one third of the first Dune book. They had to leave out a lot of things because of space and adaptation needs, but the themes from the book are all there: the human story of Paul and his relationship with his powers and his mother, the political scheming, the world building with all the factions and their interests. It is very hard to convey all the introspection and thinking that Paul does in the book but I think that it is being represented very well here.
To see you discover and fall in love with a Universe I have been reading and dreaming about for over thirty years makes me soooo happy! I hope Denis can portray as well as he did here part two of the Dune novel and Messiah of Dune (which would be the last movie of the planned trilogy).
There is also a miniseries from the early 2000s that was very good. Three different iterations with different interpretations. Then there was also an abandoned Dune project from the 70s, but that was an acid trip of a project that never got off the ground.
Frank Herbert was a crazy genius. I would at least read the first book. It wraps up well enough that you dont HAVE to read the others IMO. If Lucas used this for inspiration and ideas, where tf did Frank Herbert get his ideas? I imagine hallucinogens were involved :). This was a perfect adaption of the book.
Seeing this in theater was amazing. Hearing ' the voice' really shook you, and the sound in a theater matches the epicenes of the visuals to create a breathtaking experience. I felt like people in theater were literally startled and moved in their chairs when some of the bigger moments happened and the sound just slammed you into the chair.
19:00 Bene Gesserit can only influence humans because the object has to understand their orders. That insight gets really disturbing when you realize the Bene Geserit Mother told that "spider-pet" of the Harkonnens to leave. Yeah. Did I mention there's no sentient aliens in Dune like you'd expect in your typical sci-fi movie? You don't need aliens when humans are their own worst enemies...
There are 6 books from the original author Frank Herbert. This covers half of the first and most important book. His son and a co author wrote more 15 books, and 10 short stories. There's also a Dune encyclopaedia. There's enough material for 7 movies of "original Dune" and a bunch more from "extended Dune". Great reaction guys.
I highly doubt Denis will use the Encyclopedia as his future references (since the Herbert estate completely disowns the book and considers it as 'non-canon'). How he will deal with Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's extended materials is another matter but it's pretty likely there will be BIG liberties, like taking out some of the 'space magic' elements which are widely criticized by diehard fans and changing some of the character and story details to match the tone and realism of its cinematic adaptation.
They're never giving it the Best Film award, or even a nomination. Remember what happened to Blade Runner 2049 and Interstellar? It seems Sci-Fi is automatically excluded (I don't think Dune deserves that award btw - it has some narrative flaws I can't ignore - but it would be nice if it got more recognition than usual).
First time I saw this was in the theaters. Absolutely nothing compares. It's like watching Star Wars or Lord of the Rings for the first time in theaters. It's like a perfect sci-fi film, and Denis Villeneuve was the perfect choice to helm this saga. His vision and use of special effects and cinematography is unparalleled
26:38 What’s even cooler is, there are actually multiple sign languages that they use. When Jessica is communicating silently to Paul, that’s not even the same language she’s using when she communicates silently with the Atreides guards. It’s wild, the books go into more detail than the film has time to.
That movie covers pretty much half of the first book. To make a movie about the first book was Villneuves dream, ever since he read it. But, there are alot more books to come. I have that feeling, that once Dune Part Two is done, he might even go on and make movies about what`s coming after book one. To be honest I don`t doubt he`ll try. As for he loves Frank Herbert`s world and, without spoiling anything, the most important essence of the story, Herbert`s message, wouldn`t be concluded without at least movie adaptations of "Dune Messiah", "Children of Dune"and "Emperor of Dune". We might be in on an epic journey with a very deep and, for modern day standarts, important message.
@@djVOME Ofc it`s "too out there". He took a big risk, making this movie in the first place and the covid thing didn`t help aswell. But the first movie is a success against all odds. If the 2nd one delivers aswell, I`m sure he`ll think of it^^
the Spice is called "Melange" in the novels. It grants long life (to the tune of hundreds even thousands of years), grants the ability to make predictions of the future, mental calculations on par with a supercomputer (The Mentats are one example but thats a school of training that came about through humanities history. The Spice enhances it. Paul is trained as a Mentat).
"It's like looking into Prince's eyes..." That's real, Nikki. I could hear the women in the audience ovulating whenever Jason Mamoa was onscreen. Doesn't matter if they were 80 years old; they were ovulating. I first read this book when I was 14-15 years old. It was gift from my aunt. It gets my highest recommendation, but be warned; it's a very dense read. I had to put it down and come back to it. Also, this is NOT the traditional Hero's Journey. It may seem so at first, but...I don't want to post spoilers. One thing I will say, it's very like Game of Thrones in that you don't want to get too attached to anyone. An online guitar-buddy of mine says this is the "anti-Marvel" movie. I thought that comment was so on point, I promised him I wouldn't pretend I made it up. JAMES
Im almost done with the first book, will be moving onto Messiah this week. The film was really amazing and the story grabbed me immediately so I had to pick up the novels. Star Wars feels like a childrens version of dune in hindsight.. I'm so happy Denis decided to do this film. He did really good adapting it, the OST is epic, the imagery is grand and the tone of the film are perfect. No complaints other than "DAMNIT I HAVE TO WAIT FOR PART 2?!".
Luckily for you, an HBOMax series about the Bene Gesserit is in the making: "The Sirsterhood", it will explore the origins of their organization and their abilities. The pilot episode will be directed by Denis Villeneuve himself. It will be a great complement to the Dune universe.
So pleased to see y'all's enthusiasm for this! Last time I felt this way watching a movie was Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings. Makes sense, both book series are vital to their respective genre and made by a director with passion for the novels.
I’m SO happy you guys watched this. I absolutely loved this movie. It blew me away on every level. I’ve watched it 3 times so far & love it even more each viewing.
I like how even though you both went in BLIND as all get out, you both understood DUNE even though this movie can only give us the top layer of the books! Great video as always! 👍🏾
Glad you liked it! Indeed, the story is quite compelling but worldbuilding needs its time, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book. As to give you some info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear: You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe: 1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar) 2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-) 3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order of women whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile 4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great Houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were. Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood. The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is CHOAM and their Spice Guild. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire. So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens - who want their fiefplanet back with all the Spice - doing the grunt work for him. The emperor knows they will be easily instigated that way, certainly because the Atreides and Harkonnen already have a centuries-old feud going on between them. It's a sort of proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling). Also, some details one might have missed in the movie: About the time in which the story plays: in the beginning of the movie they show it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG. AG (After Guild - when the Spice Guild was made and started exploring the stars), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore in the books gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD. It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date. Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's almost 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much! Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world. This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machine-guns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist. That's all I'm going to say about it, because any more would get you into spoiler territory for part 2! ;-) Hope that made things more clear!
Paul has visions of different possible futures. That's why he sees himself die several different ways, or befriend and learn from Jamis the guy he actually killed, and himself leading and army of Fremen and so on. Depending on what he actually does, some of the things he sees come to pass and some don't.
The white haired dude is a Mentat. Each house in the Empire has one. Basically a human computer. They can't be hacked; although, one wonders if the Bene-geserate might be able to.
I love how they treat Emperor Shaddam IV as a sort of boogey man in this movie! Really gives you Palpatine vibes from A New Hope or Fire Lord Ozai from Last Airbender Season 1! Can't wait to see who they cast for the role, I hope it's Mads Mikkelsen!
I can't wait to find out who they cast for the Emperor as well. Hands down the most important casting decision for part 2! He must be an imposing figure with a "Baritone" voice, and commands absolute attention just by walking into a room.
You'll be surprised that the emperor will be played by Christopher Frickin' Walken, of ALL the potential actors! Sure he's not what we all expect but perhaps he could probably pull off with his acting chops...
One thing you'll notice about Denis Villeneuve's movies is how he shows scale. He's so incredibly good at putting things into perspective. Easily one of the greatest living directors currently. I would highly recommend the show 'Foundation' on Apple+. The visuals are out of this world and it's still in its first season so you can catch up. The 'Foundation' books were written by Isaac Asimov and were the main inspiration for Dune and Star Wars and basically everything in the sci-fi sphere ever since. I feel like 'Foundation' would be right up your alley since you guys like Star Wars and Dune.
Both Paul's vision of being stabbed in the last fight with Jamis, and the vision of Jamis saying he will show Paul the ways of his people came true metaphorically. Jamis' challenge introduces his entry into the clan and the way of their people, and Paul's having his first kill essentially ends his old life as he knows it as he begins his journey to possibly fulfilling the prophecies of becoming the Kwisatz Haderach and/or Lisan al Gaib.
Apparently, a lots of practical effects were implemented in this movie and green screen was sparsely used….as per cast. And that is amazing in this movie
They used a brown/sand screen and a lot of other innovative techniques for this movie. Instead of using CGI to make something unbelievable happen, they used CGI to enhance the shots and scale of Dune, the best use for CGI. Go look at how bad Eternals CGI is compared to Dune.
This was finally the version of the book that needed to be made. The book was 700-800 pages and this kept true to the book. As you said, the visuals, the costumes, the music, and the action is incredible. Poor Paul, all of a sudden he is the Duke, and on this planet, the people believe he is the Messiah. Talk about having a lot put on your shoulders. Part 2 comes out later this year, and I am looking forward to it and your reaction. Baron Harkonen is played by such a great actor, Stellan Skarsgård, Boot Strap Bill from Pirates, Professor Selvig from Thor. Good Will Hunting, etc.. Love Love Love this reaction. I could watch this over and over and over.
The best part of that knife fight is that it actually displays the difference in culture between Paul and the Fremen. Paul trained with a shield his first reaction is to apply the blades edge slowly to the opponent, it was part of his training. The Fremen are the total opposite, they prize the efficiency of the blade, favour quick slashes because they don't use shields. Combine that with the fact that Paul has never killed before he underestimates the seriousness of the duel, and assumes there's a way to settle the dispute without bloodshed. But true to his vision Jamis teaches Paul the ways of the desert, there is no practice, there is no talking, you live by the rules of the desert or you die by them. It's so cool. Amazing movie.
12:22 This is just my opinion(( obviously )) but... Prominently(( but *hardly exclusively* )) in Middle-Eastern cultures, when a seasoned warrior or warrior-chieftain(( in Fremen culture, a _Nai'ib_ )) says _'I recognize you'_ it is far more than the superficial meaning we all would derive:: ▪ It is a communicating that one person truly sees the intrinsic nature of another. Depending on various contexts --- where/when it's said, who says it to whom, the prevailing mood/state of the environs --- it can either be - An expression of honor and respect - An expression of fellowship - Both of the above _OR...it may be:_ - An assertion or declaration (( and implicitly a challenge )) towards someone who you're not on friendly terms with ▪ When Stilgar said (( in Fremen )) _'I recognize you'_ it is a multilayered disclosure very quietly connoting(( i.e. suggesting and/or implying )) a few subtle, abstruse(( and tightly interwoven )) phenomena:: Needless-to-say Stilgar fully knows of the legends; he also believes in them, BUT.... His belief is tempered by well-earned, grim pragmatism
So happy you guys loved it. It's the best adaptation of a classic novel. Hopefully at least three movies to tell Paul's story. Great cinematography, editing, sound design, effects, and great performances, especially from Momoa and Ferguson.
Full watch-a-long REACTION: bit.ly/3DoZRxL
19:23 yep. It's Stellan Skarsgård from Thor, Mama Mia and he's the father of the actor who plays Loki on Vikings and Pennywise from IT.
@@BiggySn1p3r and Eric from true blood father as well
@@craigcassidy6078 also in Chernobyl
@@newmie yes he was good 👍 chernobyl.. he's class actor
Review "SARDAR UDHAM"
It is the most underrated masterpiece of this year...
Its a must watch...
What I’ve always liked about Paul is, that instead of the old trope of a “hero” trying to find his potential, he already knows his potential and he is terrified of it and his choices.
And that it turns out that his potential isn't really the evil-vanquishing omnibenevolent powers you start out thinking it will be...
@@tejshah6083 Yeah…Denis is gonna show us that at the end of Part 2 and Messiah 😬😬😬
Yeah, his story is so interesting
This comment just gave me massive chills, because you are 100% right about that!
Paul is the Anakin of this saga.
The director said he’s making this movie for one audience member: himself. Dune is a labor of love and it shows. I wish we had ten more just like him.
This should be the standard for hiring directors or showrunners: they need to be fans of the source material ie Feige for Marvel & Favreau/Feloni for Star Wars
Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind
Only possible way to make Dune: A fan making it for themselves. Any other way wouldn't be Dune.
Both Villeneuve and Hans Zimmer are huge fans of the book, and it really shows.
Specifically his 13 year old self who he said was one of the harshest critics.
As a big fan of the books, I truly believe that we finally have the movie it deserves.
I really enjoyed the SyFy movies, Children of Dune in particular. And the one they made in the eighties was laughably bad, but it had some great imagery and definitely qualifies as “so bad it’s good.”
As someone who first discovered sci-fi with this book series I agree, if anything I think Josh Brolin's, Javier Bardem's and Stellan Skarsgård's performances improve on the source material.
@@richrelaxes1154 Yeah, I really enjoyed the mini series back in early-mid 2000s.
I’m going through the books after watching this film for the first time and it’s absolutely amazing to read. I was quite surprised how much was translated into the film through expression to make up for the lack of internal monologue. Really good stuff.
Agreed
The sound of the Voice is incredible in the theatre. You almost feel it in your bones. Chilling.
"GET OFF ME!!"
I prefer the voice in David Lynch’s 1984 version.
@@eddietucker7005 well it's the Voice of David Lynch., not the voice od the vook: where "dozen of reverend mother seems to bend you will"
Watching this in IMAX was an experience that must shared by all!
The flapping of the Thopter's wings too
One thing that a lot of people miss out on if they haven't read the books is that Paul's spice visions aren't just of the future, but possible futures as well (basically the trick that the guild navigators use to find the safe paths through space). Around the time they were flying into the sandstorm he has a vision of Jamis as his friend, teaching him about life and living in the desert. Something that happened closed that path, and at their first meeting they wound up fighting to the death instead. The visions also seem like they can be metaphor as well as straight up "this is what could happen". Just think about how confusing and messed up that would be to experience.
It also seems like Jamis did teach Paul at least one way of the desert, just not the potential one he saw. 😭
@@beetlebob4675 Exactly, This is the feeling I got from the scene that in a way Jamis did teach him the ways of the desert one of the most important just not the way Paul seen it but the vision was still correct in a way and it showed Paul that Jamis who he had never met wasn't just a killer or enemy but could have been a friend and he felt it in the vision.
Sheera fom the Yaboyroshi understood it and even predicts Leto the second.
I was a friend of Jamis.
Nicholas Cage in Next had it easy.
Members of the Bene Gesserit can have conscious control over every function of the body. In one of the books, a Sister explains it with, "Can you move your small toe independently of any other muscle?"
So yeah, they can control the hormones introduced to the fetus during gestation to control the sex characteristics development.
Damn ya beat me to it. Lol
Darn it! I ran here to say that! 😂 👍🏻
They can also alter the contents of their stomach to render ingested poisons harmless.
That's it. I NEED to read these books, the movies just don't cover it! :O
Yeah, also in the scene where Paul avoids getting assassinated it was because of his Bene Gesserit training. Just standing still wasn't enough to fool the device, I don't remember what exactly it was drawn to, but a regular person wouldn't be able to escape it once in the same room.
Timothee Chalamet is just insanely talented. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't win an Oscar in the next few years. They couldn't have found a better person for Paul Atreides.
I thought he was a bad choice but I am giving now his flowers.
Too bad they picked such a bad screws for Chani
If he goes the Leo route then that probably won't happen for another 20 years lmao. But I became a fan of Timothee back when he was in this indie film called Miss Stevens. He did a monologue from Arthur Miller's play Death of a Salesman and I agree, he really does deserve an Oscar one day. They don't really like giving those to young handsome men though which is unfortunate.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming lol grow up
He was nominated for an Oscar for his work in Call Me By Your Name (2017).
Spice harvesting/worm scene line by Paul, "I recognized your footsteps old man." Double meaning, Gurney from shield training and Shai Hulud, 'Old Man of the Desert'.
Oh shit good catch
😯
Only learned about this recently, that is some god-tier filmmaking right there.
best line in the movie, imho. gave me chills. lol
@@mostly_rust I only understood it on the 3rd viewing. So good
Denis Villeneuve is one of the best directors working today. Prisoners, Arrival, Sicario, blade runner 2049, and now Dune? Hes perfect.
Dont forget Incendies
And Enemy
Yap
What do you mean, "...one of..."?
Ridley Scott is kinda phenomenal
In the fight with Jamis, it wasn’t just that Paul had never killed a man. His style was practised against people wearing shields, which you can’t use in the desert without attracting a worm. He had to adapt to a completely new fighting style without shields. The spectators thought he was toying with Jamis.
"I thought we'd admitted a scorpion into our midst." Javier Bardem
In the book, yes. But, in the movie it's changed to his hesitation to kill Jamis.
The important thing about that scene was the "voice" he was hearing. That scene was about the idea that Paul Atreides must die for the Kwisatz Haderach to rise. Paul deciding to kill a man for the first time was the end of the child lord Paul, and Paul realizing himself as possibly becoming the Kwisatz Haderach. For the Fremmen he fulfilled the first part of the prophecy of Paul being Maud'Dib, the Fremmen messiah.
He was also struggling with decision of letting himself be killed to prevent the apocalyptic jihad across cosmos in retaliation for what happened to his family. He did not want to be that guy, which is why he screamed at his mother in earlier scene.
Also : he had visions of Jamis, so he probably thought that he wasn't gonna kill him and that making him yield would be enough
Yeah, the Baron is Stellan Skarsgård; Bootstrap Bill in PotC, Dr. Selvig in the MCU, and Boris in Chernobyl.
And Bill in Mamma Mia
Just watched Chernobyl, and had to rewatch. He plays such a pivotal role, and so well. He’s a gem, and as the Baron? Uuuugghhh, skin-crawlingly good, so creepy.
@@allisonfisher9304 Probably why his son is so good as Pennywise. Great actors in that family.
And Capt. Tupelev in Hunt for Red October
He was excellent as Martin Vanger in 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo'
23:30
Important details to reflect upon:
- 35 Sardaukar float/dropped in (yes, I actually paused and counted; I am occasionally *that* guy).
- Duncan single-handedly fought 16 Sardaukar, killing *13* of them, and 3 of those were *after* he’d pulled one of their swords out of his own chest to keep fighting.
- Depending on whether the 3 who died with Kynes are the same 3 survivors of the 16 who fought Duncan, the Fremen sand ambush killed 16-19 Sardaukar.
35 of the most feared soldiers in the imperium. And a third of them were killed by just one man.
Absolute badass!!!
also shows how deadly and awesome the Freman are
Well one of the reasons the Emperor feared the Atreides was due to the fact that their soldiers had begun approaching the skill level of the Sardukhar.... and perhaps the feared myths of the Sardukhar might have made them into more of a boogeyman than they actually were.... still lethal and dangerous as HELL, but when you take an elite of the elite of the Atreides that dun fear the Sardukhar.... then it makes sense he performs extremely well.
Yeah, that also means that like 5 or 6 Fremen killed like 3 Sardukar each. Emperor is fucked lol
I mean, I know that from reading the books, but for those unfamiliar, thanks your slick analysis, one could figure it out just based on that. Even if an army of Fremen are outnumbered by Sardukar 3 to 1, they'll still win.
@@SliderFury1 Isn't there also something about the fact that the Sardukhar also dun have an abundance of active combat experience, compared to like, the fremen who has a constant resistance warring against the Harkonnen for decades? And the reason Atreides soldiers were stronger a well were in part due to a more indepth training regimen that even took some use of the Sisterhood's combat skills or some such?
In the books, it is even more. It is mentioned in Children of Dune that Duncan killed 19 Sardaukar. The Sardaukar highly respected him for that, so much so that they sold his body to the Tleilaxu....but that is another story.
"You were told to only bear daugthers." Bene Gesserit learn such great control over their bodies that deciding to get pregnant AND choosing the sex is just a couple of the things they can do at will.
Another is to pass on memories...
denis villeneuve just gets it. not a miss in his entire filmography and WB/Legendary should've backed Part 2 from the get go but at least they eventually got around to greenlighting it.
Honestly they should have green lit three movies at the start like LoTR.
The subject matter is there.
@@douglascampbell9809 there is a Sisterhood series in development at HBO Max as well. still in pre-production, i think.
@@mksongbird will probably be shit if denis doesn’t direct it.
with WB loosing their golden goose (nolan), denis seems to be filling up that gap real quick. If he's given final cut privileges, we can see a lotta masterpieces in the years to come.
Denis actually said that hes glad it ended up not getting greenlit out of the gate because after doing the first one he was mentally exhausted
"What is that balsamic, vinegar, and olive oil?" - Nikki LMAO
Technically it's a liquid form of the spice melange which has healing abilities.
That's one expensive bath additive.
@@jenswurm When you are the Baron and you just spent 50 years worth of Spice earnings to vanquish your enemies, I think you earned the right to splurge on yourself a little 😁
@@pee-buddy Well, he was kinda poisoned by BG with poison that destroys Vladimirs good looks!
@MythicFrost
Well...That was a retcon by Brian & Kevin, and not popular among most fans of the original Frank Herbert books.
What's really disgusting is spices so valuable, the Barons bathwater will be recycled and sold two members of the middle class,trillionaires by today's standards
The white haired man, Thufier Hawat is what is known as a Mentat. Genetically enhanced humans with hyper intelligence who able to make complex calculations in a moment. They are in place of any machine intelligence in this world. Didn’t see it mentioned yet. Loved the reaction.
From what I understand they are not genetically enchanced, although possibly bred for it, their ability "unlocked" by some tweaked Spice.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps Special breeding is scientifically the same thing as genetical enhancement. Once you breed for particular traits what you are actually doing is gene selection. Basically every food (both plant and animal based) we eat today have been enhanced this way to be bigger, sweeter, more disease resistant etc. using normal farming practices.
@@pee-buddy That is sort of true but if the books don't outright say Mentats are bred to be Mentats or genetically altered we can't really call them genetically enhanced. Paul is trained and spoiler:
so is a later Duncan Idaho clone but they don't come from straight Mentat bloodlines.
If anything, that implies you just take someone that aces IQ tests, train them and supply them the juice.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps You need the inborn talents and the choice of going to the school for it. and it also requires a red liquid to drink that stains the lips red - the sign of a mentat. Not shown in the movie and I can understand why... it's not truly required to show when there's a ton of other things needed to involve plotwise.
This is a perfect example of one of those things where the nerd in me was annoyed that they didn't get into this at all, but the moviegoer in me knows this was the exact type of thing that's good to cut when you have to shove such a massive story/universe into a couple of 2½ hour movies.
Duncan Idaho is a Master Swordsman in the novels. Sword fighting reemerged because of shields. The SwordMasters of the planet Ginaz taught him and Duncan was considered their most gifted student. by far.
If he suddenly re-appears in Dune 3 or 4, do not be surprised. He is indeed a gifted student of the sword.
Dune, part 2 is scheduled for an October 2023 release, and Denis Villeneuve has stated that he wants to do another Dune movie after that one. After the first three movies, some other director may have to take over.
There is also am HBO series coming out in 2022, called Dune the Sisterhood. This was Denis Villeneuve's idea, and he will be the producer for at least the first season, and will also direct the pilot episode. This series will be about the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood (that Jessica belongs to).
If Warner greenlights the next movies I don't want to be in the next director's boots. Imagine coming after Villeneuve and you have to adapt even harder/weirder story than 1st 2 books.
@@jdksdj11 the pressure would be insane 😭
It's so cool to see others' reactions to different elements in the film. I myself felt an oddly reverential feeling toward the sandworms. It reminded me of Galadriel's line in Lord of the Rings; "All shall love me and despair". Like, they're clearly overwhelming and dangerous, but there is something about the way they are presented in the film that makes them as awe-inspiring as they are dreadful.
They cohabitate as the riding shows. Stilgar in the novel makes fun of Paul saying that most Fremen children are riding sandworms by the age of 13.
Yes! The fremen worship them as a deity
@@MrsKirk2203 shai halud ^^
There’s a LOT more epic stuff about the worms later in the series, in books 3 and 4, and it is WILD
Shout out to the commenters that have read the books and provided much needed insight. This is my second time watching the film and your notes are super helpful. 🙏🏾
I read the book *years* ago -- watching this in a theatre, after 20 minutes, I couldn't believe how they had completely nailed the feel of the story. Amazing.
Rebecca Ferguson was amazing , deserves an oscar for her beautiful performance.
To me, she jumped from a nobody to a favorite in just a single movie.
Too emotional. Saskia Reeves is the best Jessica
@@DeltaAssaultGaming Saskia was good for that mini serie i agree , but for me Rebecca was perfect :)
Rebecca Ferguson swallowed half of her lines. Such an odd acting choice to fail to enunciate anything anytime there was an emotion necessary.
@@eXcommunicate1979 I saw this in both a regular theater and in IMAX. In the former I agree with you, in the latter is was much clearer. I like how she portrayed her character in those moments, like she is just not really wanting to deal with what's happening, even though she knows she has to, so her nervousness and denial combine to push her voice down very small, sort of the opposite of when she's using "the voice".
Could have been fixed up with some post-production sound tweaking. Will be probably be clearer yet on a good soundbar/home theater system.
Steven trying to fight against the pull of Momoa is the realest thing I've seen today on TH-cam.
I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. I've wondered how non book fans would react to this, especially since this only tells half the story of the first book.If you're able to, this is a film that really begs to be seen in a big movie theatre with great sound.I saw it in IMAX and the sound design and sound track just blew me away.
I am not a book reader, but I was really blown away by this movie. Denis Villeneuve is just my favorite director right now
The bene gesserit can control their own biology, so they can determine the sex of their offspring. Also the visions Paul is having are possible futures.
Love how the sandworm just casually downs a giant spice harvester like it's a friggin' pierogi or something.
Couple of non-spoiler things that aren't really explained in the movie which I think are really cool.
1. There was an AI uprising in the distant past so "thinking machines" are outlawed, so no computers. To counter this they trained "Mentats", people to be human computers. Hawat is a Mentat and he's doing calculations when his eyes go white.
2. Everyone fights via hand-to-hand combat rather than guns because of the shields. The shields render projectiles useless as they move to fast and can't penetrate the shield. There were laser weapons but they aren't used because if a lasgun hit a shield it caused a nuclear explosion and killed everyone.
Yes, the Butlerian Jihad (thinking machine war) created a massive cultural shift. The Orange Catholic Bible states, "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."
@28:00, despite Rebecca Ferguson saying Denis Villaneuve modernized the depiction of Jessica, this is how Frank Herbert imagined her back in 1965.
She is beautiful, loving, graceful but also deadly AF. All the sisters of the Bene Gesserit can secretly mop up the floor with most people.
This was an unforgettable IMAX experience. Denis Villeneuve can't do anything wrong. He has a perfect record.
i loved dune and enjoyed bladerunner 2049, but fuck did i absolutely hate arrival. easily in my personal top 3 worst movies ive ever seen
@@Doctor_whom How interesting, I am at the absolute opposite end Arrival is one of my favorites.
@@Doctor_whom I can understand not liking it personally, it's nowhere near as good as Dune, or BR2049, but calling it a bad film, let alone one of the worst you've ever seen, is kind of ridiculous.
Saw it in IMAX and it was fantastic. Too bad "Eternals" grabbed all the IMAX screens when it came out.
Ya, that was discouraging. Word of Dune was still spreading. We went to the very last imax screening in the Denver metro area, and the theater was 3/4 filled.
I had to scramble to see it in IMAX before Eternals took over!
Yeah I missed out on it. Fortunately still saw it in a cineplex VIP with Dolby atmos because I was desperate lol closest I could get
I'm pissed I didn't get on it. I went looking and all the IMAXes had switched :'(
Dune is going back to IMAX Dec 3 for a week
7:44 - The Lady Jessica is a Bene Gesserit adept. She can indeed control that, and every other part of her body with her absolute awareness. This is part of the prana-bindu (nerve & muscle) training that they undergo since they are little girls.
Is that what it's called Prana-bindu, it pretty much translates into Life-point. Cool.
Star Wars was heavily influenced by this book so there are a lot of similarities. Foundation was really the first sci-fi with massive world building. Dune was next. Everything that follows can’t help but reference the first two.
First space opers universe with massive world building was created even earlier - The Star Kings of Edmond Hamilton in 1949 and the following books. It even had laser swords, for god sake, so Star Wars had a lot of predescesors, even if not mentione Akira Kurosawa
's Kakushi-toride no san-akunin / The Hidden Fortress, which was source of basically all main characters and plot in general for Star Wars. Yes, Star Wars is weaboo thing, deal with it ))
Ironically Frank Herbert may have been influenced by the Flash Gordon serials
Flash used a sword ,Frank Herbert came up with the idea of Shields to make swords practical
@@alexmalyarchuk1723 Edmond Hamilton himself as well as others did create space operas with significant world building before Foundation, but The Star Kings is not one of them (publication of Foundation started in a magazine in 1942, that of The Star Kings in 1947), and none of the earlier works were as influential as Foundation.
@@Daneelro yes,but no. I was talking about "space opera" genre, which both Star Wars and The Star Kings definatelly are - and Star Kings was first (or one of the firsts). But Foundation - is more direct science fiction, than space opera.
@@alexmalyarchuk1723 You responded to a comment without the restriction to space opera, and you specifying that Space Kings was "even earlier" can only relate to Foundation. Maybe you should edit your comment for clarity.
The actor who plays Jamis (the guy Paul kills) is 2x Pan Jiu-Jitsu Champion Babs Olusanmokun 🤯🥋🔥
I saw this twice on HBO Max and once in the theater. The theater experience is almost overwhelming. The sound is INCREDIBLE!!!
If you have the time/money I 110% recommend seeing this in theaters! The visuals and music are so powerful on the big screen
Great to see yall watching Dune!
This universe is set in our Humanity's distant future, after a Sky-Net style machine uprising that ravaged the galaxy. Humanity has since banned all AI and any advanced computer through which AI might emerge, and so specialized human beings have taken the place of these computers. Most crucial are those of the Spacing Guild, who use extremely high, physically transformative doses of spice to take the place of navigation computers, plotting otherwise incredibly dangerous FTL jumps through space.
Exactly by our standards many of these characters are almost super human. Faster than us. Stronger more durable than us.
It wasn’t by will alone that Duncan got up and pulled a freaking sword out of his chest. Stuff that could kill us would just slow them down.
The Spacing Navigators in the ‘84 film made me go, “LOL WTF is that?!?” over and over while they plotted the hyperlight jumps. I put off seeing it in tape for decades so I barely knew anything about the story going into this present version.
year 10900-something iirc. so over 8900 years into the future.
@@kinagrill You are partly right. The date given is on the AG calendar not our current AD calendar.
The calendar in the Dune series starts over 10,000 into the future. So Dune actually takes place over 20,000 years from now.
@@technopirate304 Yup I totally forgot to add that additional 11k-or-so to my calculations XD
Watching this in an IMAX theater is almost a spiritual experience. By all means make the time to do it ASAP. The only bad thing about this film is the release during covid. Hopefully when part 2 comes out it will have enough of an audience to make it a proper franchise to make further movies.
Ive seen this 4 times, twice in IMAX, and with everything being amazing, the absolute *best* thing about it for me was the sound when they use the Voice. Like holy shit, my spine is vibrating 😬
@16:15, the way Gurney just took out those two guys and Duke Leto’s popularity are why the Emperor sided with the Harkonnens.
The Emperor’s Sardaukar are supposed to be the deadliest commandos in the universe. They are also his attack dogs that he uses to keep other nobles in line.
But with Duncan and Gurney training the troops of House Atreides they are practically a match for the Sardaukar.
They became a threat to his authority that a jealous man like Emperor Shaddam couldn’t let slide.
Had the Sardaukar not been a part of the attack, House Atreides wouldn’t have fell in one night. They would have been bloodied for sure but still standing in the morning.
Yes, Duke Leto's popularity in the Landsraad and the level of training of the Atreides' forces under Gurney Halleck and Duncan Idaho led the Emperor to back the Harkonnen takeover. The Sardaukar were so feared that the mere possibility of them being employed would quell uprisings. Yet, in a later book it is revealed that the Sardaukar kept Duncan's body and turned it over to the Tleilaxu because his genetic material was too valuable to waste. This was because in his combat with them, Duncan single-handedly killed 19 Sardaukar- something thought impossible.
Outstanding reactions by both of you! And Steven, huge props to you for figuring out the nature of Paul's spice-triggered prescient visions on the first watch. Most folks who haven't read the books don't understand the first time around. Indeed, Paul is seeing possible futures, and his decisions determine which ones come to pass. Just imagine the burden of having to make those decisions.
I'm so happy they were able to do the Ornithopters with a wing setup similar to what they describe in the books. Watching them in action it made me realize that their design makes sense for the desert. I can only imagine how fast a vehicle using a jet turbine would get shredded dealing with the sandy winds of Arrakis.
The 'Ornithopters' of Dune are 'bird-like', have flapping wings, and have jets as well.
The dragonfly-like flyers seen in this film is more like an AH-64 Apache helicopter than what is described in the book.
I haven't read the books either, I probably should. My Mom loved both the books and the 1984 movie. Funny when I think back now, how much of a geek she was and it wasn't till my adult life, that I understood. Sadly she passed in 2013. I wish she could have seen this version. I think she'd have flipped. lol
You should pick up the books and start reading them. I think she might’ve enjoyed that more than the movie 🙂
David Lynch's version is a good introduction to Dune lore. It's like a summary of the first book, touching upon most of the franchise's unique features.
By the way, when they say the year is 10191? It's AG (After Guild). It's more like 21200 years into the future. House Atreides can trace their lineage back to Old Terra (Earth), to the ancient Greeks.
The sign language Jessica and Paul use is Atreides Battle Language, something only their men and house would know, to stay covert and ensure the enemy doesn't intercept what they're saying.
Thufir Hawat is a Mentat, a literal human computer. Any sort of AI or thinking machine is illegal in the Dune universe, and they were all destroyed during a religious crusade a long time before the story starts. All houses have Mentats to assist will tactics and calculations.
Sand behaving like a fluid is a real phenomenon caused by intense vibrations or air being pumped into it, called liquefaction. This is common during strong earthquakes.
The Baron is Skellen Skaasgard, another MCU face!
"Dune begins in 10,191 AG, so we simply add 10,191 to 11,000+201 together:
10,191 + 11,000 + 201 = 21,392
This gives us the number of years that have passed in-between 10,191 AG and the beginning of deep space exploration. The first interplanetary space probe was Pioneer 5 which was launched in 1960. If we start at 1960 A.D. and add 21,392 more years, we have 23,352 A.D.
Thus, the year 10,191 AG corresponds to the year 23,352 A.D. That is, of course, assuming that the Dune chronology actually uses Earth years."
@@eddiepolo6047 Earth was lost so... it might make sense they still use the chronological scale of old earth.
Not just an MCU face.
He was Anderson Dawes
He was Hari Seldon
He was Valery Legasov.
@@frfras7 There's a cultural differences. It'd be like saying the Danes when meaning the Vikings.
@@mikek9297 Those three roles were played by Jared Harris, not Skellen Skaasgard.
I watched the movie, binged the book in a week, and went back and watched it two more times. I am OBSESSED!
Right behind ya! lol
there is so much nuance that the book(s) can inform upon for this movie. It definitely stands on its own, but reading the book enriches the story so much. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse in the comments sections of videos about Dune (2021), but a super important point of the series to keep in mind is that Paul is NOT the hero. There is NO hero in this saga. Everyone is fallible.
i love the part when Duncan kills those 3 dudes and just goes TO HELL, DOGS !!!! to the other 3 and they're like "aight chief, u can take the ship, i'm not getting paid enough for this" :)))))
the Jamis duel pays homage to the bull fighter imagery and heritage of the Atreides; he faints the bull 3 times, then ducks him and finishes the deed
This movie was *intense* in theaters
*Edit* : When my mother saw Jason Momoa clean shaven she said,”Oh hello, Jason Momoa.” 🤣
lmao
Eww
Why is your mother talking in the theater?
Bearded Jason Momoa is handsome but clean-shaven - OMG he's devastatingly gorgeous 😍
I had the same reaction seeing Oscar Isaac with a beard.
As a lifelong Dune fan I am SO impressed with this version, 5 stars for sure. Thanks for the react!
I was awed in cinema, I just didn't want it to end. I didn't read the books, but the author's imagination and the world they created, to the tiniest detail, is amazing. As you said, the music, colours, technology, all of it created such an amazing overall experience. Also, great colour scheme, Nikki - suits you very well! Another good reaction guys :)
How about when Duncan says " you see that thopter? That's mine now, and I'ma blow up your ships on the way out."
Harkonens " yeah just take it"😆
"I just killed 5 of your buddies, you want some?" I'm not picking a fight with that guy lol
My thought when the credits started was "I could easily sit here for another 3 hours" which I think is the most telling feeling.
5:27 YAASSSS!!! :D
17:02 Of all the Dune reactions I've watched, Nikki, you're the only one that noted this. This detail is very symbolic in the book.
So about the visions, they're as figurative as they are literal, when he sees himself dying it's because he needs to kill who he was by taking a life, at least that's my take on the interpretation. Also as to how many there could be, this is the first half of the first book, Frank Herbert wrote six and his kid wrote the seventh, but that one's garbage so we don't talk about it.
Herbert describes how Paul stops seeing all alternate possibilities when he is about to fight Jamis. Calls it a nexus point where the future of the whole universe rests on too many small variables to be predicted.
It also shows a POTENTENTIAL future event that his brain has calculated for. Hence why we see Jamis as a sort of mentor much of the movie, and when Paul finally meets him, Jamis is an obstacle rather than a mentor. Paul dun see the future as such, his mind can just calculate and interpret the potential of future events - after getting exposed to the Spice in it's raw form.
I really want you guys to watch the 2004 Battlestar Galactica series. I think you’d love it.
You're absolutely right. I seriously hope they do that. It's one of the best shows ever made. BSG forever. So say we all!
If they haven't seen it, it's an absolute must have. I'd also add Babylon 5 to the list, though it does show it's age.
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Loved the reaction and post-reaction review, one of the few reactioners I sit through to listen to your thoughts. I’m glad it had that effect, as a book reader and fan I feel the same way. The director has not made a bad film to date. This isn’t just for us fans and new fans, it’s for him as well. A love letter to cinema and literature.
The horrific part of Dune and Paul’s story is that his visions not only show things that will happen, but things that *MAY* happen. That’s why we see him being mentored by Jamis, but the future doesn’t actually ply out that way in the end, and he’s forced to kill him instead. This ‘potential future sight’ is massively dangerous.
I was so happy when I saw this reaction listed on your schedule, I enjoyed this movie so much but didn't even consider that you might react to it.
I'm commenting before watching, but hoping that you enjoyed the film too.
Keep up the great work, both of you. =)
The people behind this movie did an amazing job, from the execution, sound effects, music, visuals, acting, voice acting, and directing, all are really well done made.
The fight scene with Jamis in conjunction with his visions of Jamis is symbollic of something rooted in psychology: You cannot become an "Adult" fully until the "Child" dies. Killing Jamis fulfills the visions which Paul has. His meeting of Chani symbolizes the catalyst of that death.
HBO is apparently in the process for developing a series based on the Bene Gesserit called "The Sisterhood". It is going to be astounding.
This movie was incredible, and it barely covers one third of the first Dune book. They had to leave out a lot of things because of space and adaptation needs, but the themes from the book are all there: the human story of Paul and his relationship with his powers and his mother, the political scheming, the world building with all the factions and their interests. It is very hard to convey all the introspection and thinking that Paul does in the book but I think that it is being represented very well here.
To see you discover and fall in love with a Universe I have been reading and dreaming about for over thirty years makes me soooo happy! I hope Denis can portray as well as he did here part two of the Dune novel and Messiah of Dune (which would be the last movie of the planned trilogy).
There is also a miniseries from the early 2000s that was very good. Three different iterations with different interpretations.
Then there was also an abandoned Dune project from the 70s, but that was an acid trip of a project that never got off the ground.
Frank Herbert was a crazy genius. I would at least read the first book. It wraps up well enough that you dont HAVE to read the others IMO. If Lucas used this for inspiration and ideas, where tf did Frank Herbert get his ideas? I imagine hallucinogens were involved :). This was a perfect adaption of the book.
In the book, Paul doesn't initially know that his dreams are visions of the future and he internally refers to them as his "terrible purpose"
Seeing this in theater was amazing. Hearing ' the voice' really shook you, and the sound in a theater matches the epicenes of the visuals to create a breathtaking experience. I felt like people in theater were literally startled and moved in their chairs when some of the bigger moments happened and the sound just slammed you into the chair.
19:00 Bene Gesserit can only influence humans because the object has to understand their orders.
That insight gets really disturbing when you realize the Bene Geserit Mother told that "spider-pet" of the Harkonnens to leave. Yeah. Did I mention there's no sentient aliens in Dune like you'd expect in your typical sci-fi movie?
You don't need aliens when humans are their own worst enemies...
There are 6 books from the original author Frank Herbert. This covers half of the first and most important book. His son and a co author wrote more 15 books, and 10 short stories. There's also a Dune encyclopaedia. There's enough material for 7 movies of "original Dune" and a bunch more from "extended Dune". Great reaction guys.
Encyclopedia
I highly doubt Denis will use the Encyclopedia as his future references (since the Herbert estate completely disowns the book and considers it as 'non-canon'). How he will deal with Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's extended materials is another matter but it's pretty likely there will be BIG liberties, like taking out some of the 'space magic' elements which are widely criticized by diehard fans and changing some of the character and story details to match the tone and realism of its cinematic adaptation.
Rewatch the scene with the Head Witch and his hand is in the box.... When he looks up, the music changes... Part of him is getting awakened...
Such an amazing movie.
Oscar for best movie
Oscar for best music
Oscar for best effects
Probably more golden globe awards
And Oscar for the best title logo I have ever seen. Seriously, as a professional logo designer, I am moist.
They're never giving it the Best Film award, or even a nomination. Remember what happened to Blade Runner 2049 and Interstellar? It seems Sci-Fi is automatically excluded (I don't think Dune deserves that award btw - it has some narrative flaws I can't ignore - but it would be nice if it got more recognition than usual).
Best adapted screenplay for sure
First time I saw this was in the theaters. Absolutely nothing compares. It's like watching Star Wars or Lord of the Rings for the first time in theaters. It's like a perfect sci-fi film, and Denis Villeneuve was the perfect choice to helm this saga. His vision and use of special effects and cinematography is unparalleled
26:38 What’s even cooler is, there are actually multiple sign languages that they use. When Jessica is communicating silently to Paul, that’s not even the same language she’s using when she communicates silently with the Atreides guards. It’s wild, the books go into more detail than the film has time to.
That movie covers pretty much half of the first book. To make a movie about the first book was Villneuves dream, ever since he read it. But, there are alot more books to come. I have that feeling, that once Dune Part Two is done, he might even go on and make movies about what`s coming after book one. To be honest I don`t doubt he`ll try. As for he loves Frank Herbert`s world and, without spoiling anything, the most important essence of the story, Herbert`s message, wouldn`t be concluded without at least movie adaptations of "Dune Messiah", "Children of Dune"and "Emperor of Dune". We might be in on an epic journey with a very deep and, for modern day standarts, important message.
He's said he wants to make a trilogy of _Dune Parts One and Two_ and _Dune Messiah._
He said he doesn't want to do Children because its' too out there.
@@djVOME Ofc it`s "too out there". He took a big risk, making this movie in the first place and the covid thing didn`t help aswell. But the first movie is a success against all odds. If the 2nd one delivers aswell, I`m sure he`ll think of it^^
the Spice is called "Melange" in the novels. It grants long life (to the tune of hundreds even thousands of years), grants the ability to make predictions of the future, mental calculations on par with a supercomputer (The Mentats are one example but thats a school of training that came about through humanities history. The Spice enhances it. Paul is trained as a Mentat).
"It's like looking into Prince's eyes..." That's real, Nikki. I could hear the women in the audience ovulating whenever Jason Mamoa was onscreen. Doesn't matter if they were 80 years old; they were ovulating. I first read this book when I was 14-15 years old. It was gift from my aunt. It gets my highest recommendation, but be warned; it's a very dense read. I had to put it down and come back to it. Also, this is NOT the traditional Hero's Journey. It may seem so at first, but...I don't want to post spoilers. One thing I will say, it's very like Game of Thrones in that you don't want to get too attached to anyone. An online guitar-buddy of mine says this is the "anti-Marvel" movie. I thought that comment was so on point, I promised him I wouldn't pretend I made it up.
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Im almost done with the first book, will be moving onto Messiah this week. The film was really amazing and the story grabbed me immediately so I had to pick up the novels. Star Wars feels like a childrens version of dune in hindsight.. I'm so happy Denis decided to do this film. He did really good adapting it, the OST is epic, the imagery is grand and the tone of the film are perfect. No complaints other than "DAMNIT I HAVE TO WAIT FOR PART 2?!".
I've been watching and reading a lot of reviews and some Star Wars fans seem so resentful about Dune. Jealous much?
I was new to Dune and loved it so much I started reading the book... Probably my favorite movie I've seen in years , fantastic !
Luckily for you, an HBOMax series about the Bene Gesserit is in the making: "The Sirsterhood", it will explore the origins of their organization and their abilities. The pilot episode will be directed by Denis Villeneuve himself.
It will be a great complement to the Dune universe.
So pleased to see y'all's enthusiasm for this! Last time I felt this way watching a movie was Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings. Makes sense, both book series are vital to their respective genre and made by a director with passion for the novels.
I’m SO happy you guys watched this. I absolutely loved this movie. It blew me away on every level. I’ve watched it 3 times so far & love it even more each viewing.
I like how even though you both went in BLIND as all get out, you both understood DUNE even though this movie can only give us the top layer of the books! Great video as always! 👍🏾
Glad you liked it!
Indeed, the story is quite compelling but worldbuilding needs its time, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book.
As to give you some info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear:
You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe:
1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar)
2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-)
3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order of women whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile
4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel
It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great Houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were.
Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood.
The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is CHOAM and their Spice Guild. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire.
So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens - who want their fiefplanet back with all the Spice - doing the grunt work for him. The emperor knows they will be easily instigated that way, certainly because the Atreides and Harkonnen already have a centuries-old feud going on between them. It's a sort of proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling).
Also, some details one might have missed in the movie:
About the time in which the story plays: in the beginning of the movie they show it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG.
AG (After Guild - when the Spice Guild was made and started exploring the stars), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore in the books gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD.
It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date.
Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's almost 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much!
Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world.
This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machine-guns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist.
That's all I'm going to say about it, because any more would get you into spoiler territory for part 2! ;-)
Hope that made things more clear!
Paul has visions of different possible futures. That's why he sees himself die several different ways, or befriend and learn from Jamis the guy he actually killed, and himself leading and army of Fremen and so on. Depending on what he actually does, some of the things he sees come to pass and some don't.
The white haired dude is a Mentat. Each house in the Empire has one. Basically a human computer. They can't be hacked; although, one wonders if the Bene-geserate might be able to.
I love how they treat Emperor Shaddam IV as a sort of boogey man in this movie! Really gives you Palpatine vibes from A New Hope or Fire Lord Ozai from Last Airbender Season 1! Can't wait to see who they cast for the role, I hope it's Mads Mikkelsen!
I can't wait to find out who they cast for the Emperor as well. Hands down the most important casting decision for part 2!
He must be an imposing figure with a "Baritone" voice, and commands absolute attention just by walking into a room.
You'll be surprised that the emperor will be played by Christopher Frickin' Walken, of ALL the potential actors! Sure he's not what we all expect but perhaps he could probably pull off with his acting chops...
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One thing you'll notice about Denis Villeneuve's movies is how he shows scale. He's so incredibly good at putting things into perspective. Easily one of the greatest living directors currently.
I would highly recommend the show 'Foundation' on Apple+. The visuals are out of this world and it's still in its first season so you can catch up.
The 'Foundation' books were written by Isaac Asimov and were the main inspiration for Dune and Star Wars and basically everything in the sci-fi sphere ever since.
I feel like 'Foundation' would be right up your alley since you guys like Star Wars and Dune.
I watched the movie first, now half way through the first book. So good.
Both Paul's vision of being stabbed in the last fight with Jamis, and the vision of Jamis saying he will show Paul the ways of his people came true metaphorically. Jamis' challenge introduces his entry into the clan and the way of their people, and Paul's having his first kill essentially ends his old life as he knows it as he begins his journey to possibly fulfilling the prophecies of becoming the Kwisatz Haderach and/or Lisan al Gaib.
“Paul’s dreams are coming true”
He dreamed what every 16 year old boy dreams about. Zendaya
Jason Mamoa smiling = looking into the eyes of Prince. I DIED LAUGHING.
Such an amazing movie. Can't wait for Part 2 and potentially Messiah
I want Children and GE, too.
Also "Heretics" and "Chapterhouse"!
So glad you two loved this. It’s so amazing seeing audiences coming to this fresh, and raving about it after it’s over!
Great review. Subscribed.
Apparently, a lots of practical effects were implemented in this movie and green screen was sparsely used….as per cast. And that is amazing in this movie
They used a brown/sand screen and a lot of other innovative techniques for this movie. Instead of using CGI to make something unbelievable happen, they used CGI to enhance the shots and scale of Dune, the best use for CGI. Go look at how bad Eternals CGI is compared to Dune.
This was finally the version of the book that needed to be made. The book was 700-800 pages and this kept true to the book. As you said, the visuals, the costumes, the music, and the action is incredible. Poor Paul, all of a sudden he is the Duke, and on this planet, the people believe he is the Messiah. Talk about having a lot put on your shoulders. Part 2 comes out later this year, and I am looking forward to it and your reaction. Baron Harkonen is played by such a great actor, Stellan Skarsgård, Boot Strap Bill from Pirates, Professor Selvig from Thor. Good Will Hunting, etc.. Love Love Love this reaction. I could watch this over and over and over.
"I've seen this movie before." - Paul Atreides
The best part of that knife fight is that it actually displays the difference in culture between Paul and the Fremen. Paul trained with a shield his first reaction is to apply the blades edge slowly to the opponent, it was part of his training. The Fremen are the total opposite, they prize the efficiency of the blade, favour quick slashes because they don't use shields. Combine that with the fact that Paul has never killed before he underestimates the seriousness of the duel, and assumes there's a way to settle the dispute without bloodshed. But true to his vision Jamis teaches Paul the ways of the desert, there is no practice, there is no talking, you live by the rules of the desert or you die by them. It's so cool. Amazing movie.
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This is just my opinion(( obviously )) but...
Prominently(( but *hardly exclusively* )) in Middle-Eastern cultures, when a seasoned warrior or warrior-chieftain(( in Fremen culture, a _Nai'ib_ )) says _'I recognize you'_ it is far more than the superficial meaning we all would derive::
▪ It is a communicating that one person truly sees the intrinsic nature of another. Depending on various contexts --- where/when it's said, who says it to whom, the prevailing mood/state of the environs --- it can either be
- An expression of honor and respect
- An expression of fellowship
- Both of the above
_OR...it may be:_
- An assertion or declaration (( and implicitly a challenge )) towards someone who you're not on friendly terms with
▪ When Stilgar said (( in Fremen )) _'I recognize you'_ it is a multilayered disclosure very quietly connoting(( i.e. suggesting and/or implying )) a few subtle, abstruse(( and tightly interwoven )) phenomena::
Needless-to-say Stilgar fully knows of the legends; he also believes in them, BUT.... His belief is tempered by well-earned, grim pragmatism
So happy you guys loved it. It's the best adaptation of a classic novel. Hopefully at least three movies to tell Paul's story. Great cinematography, editing, sound design, effects, and great performances, especially from Momoa and Ferguson.
And yeah, you should DEFINITELY go watch it on the big screen. It's even triple as impressive and epic there.
I've been looking and waiting on theatre in my city but there is no sign of Dune i am heartbroken bc i am willing to pay to watch it for 2nd time 😭